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I think we'll see a LSH sales record for the #1 issue. Waid gets lots of fanboy press and the faithful will follow along. Many of them will buy that extra issue to bag and tuck away in their long boxes.
#2 will tell a completely different story.
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quote:Originally posted by Yellow Kid: I think we'll see a LSH sales record for the #1 issue. Waid gets lots of fanboy press and the faithful will follow along. Many of them will buy that extra issue to bag and tuck away in their long boxes.
#2 will tell a completely different story.
It'll get a boost, but considering the depressed state of the industry, it will NOT set a new record. And I doubt it'll be in the Top 5, never mind top.
But yeah, expect at least a quarter of issue 1 sales to vanish with 2.
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Personally, I think that #1 is going to do shockingly well. I was lurking over at Newsarama's board this morning and it seemed to be on an awful lot of posters' must buy list when the December solicitations came out.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think it will be number one, but it will be on the better side of the top 100.
In terms of its staying power, I think its a fifty-fifty proposition. If they can do something original, edgy, and with a broad appeal, I think it could be a good selling title. That is to say, if the new legion can offer the curious fan boys and Waid lovers something truly different than the majority of Superhero titles it will do well.
Oh, and while Birthright was fairly unspectacular, both in terms of story and sales, I like to think that Waid will be allowed to take way more risks on the Legion than he was on Superman.
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I'm certain it's going to sell really well. We already know it's going to have 2 big name creators, a re-pre-post-das-jack boot to end the slow descent into bordom and capture the interest of new readers, a decent amount of hype and it's "hey Presto!! decent sales again"
Well thats my opinion anyway And I bet a set of Bevis's gorgeous Queen of Diamond books against the first poster who disagrees that in Dec 2005 the Legion will be back in the top 10 again best selling DC comics.
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Imo, the new generation of fans they yearn for will consist largely of current comic book readers who USED TO be Legion fans but dropped the book for one reason or another, plus followers of Waid and/or Kitson. I just don't see how this will translate into DC's stated goal of 50-60K new readers (or even 50-60K steady readers total). Their expectations for this franchise seem highly unrealistic. That's dangerous, because if sales don't match the numbers DC is dreaming of, the LSH will find itself in trouble again this time next year, even if it's selling at a perfectly decent 35K.
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I think the marketing machine is more strongly behind this one than the previous Legion #1, leading to some pretty strong sales for the franchise (which has been dying a slow and painful death for over a decade now) and I'm hearing some of the fans who I remember loudly complaining about Legion of the Damned (I just grew indifferent) show interest in the franchise again. Taking in all factors, I'm thinking a debut in the low 40s.
Number ten's sales really depends on the marketing, IMO. If DC were to put a digest-sized collection behind the relaunch (I've always thought the Legion was a good fit for the manga audience and this one seems an even stronger fit) they might finally manage to bring the franchise to a new audience.
'course that's expecting good marketing. I expect marketing to quickly forget about the Legion after the first issue, as usual. (Aside from the typical underprinting and 'issue one sold out' press releases.) In that case my prediction for issue ten falls at about 32K.
BTW, what do those ICV2 numbers reflect? Pre-orders or total orders?
quote:Originally posted by 235 - Andy S: I'd like to point out that Kevin Smith took a second string DEAD character and made it a top 10 book. Isn't it possible for Waid to do the same?
POSSIBLE SURE.
Will Waid do it?
PROBABLY NOT.
Yeah. Green Arrow sold like gangbusters because of Kevin Smith (and Brad Meltzer), not Oliver Queen. Superman/Batman and Superman are similarly being carried by Mike Turner & Jim Lee (as Lee boosted Batman before that). Meltzer's carrying ID Crisis now.
Neither Waid nor Kitson have anything LIKE that level of cache.
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Apparently, Levitz said on the Baltimore panel that DC would support the new Legion series with a quick turnaround on a TB of the first story arc, priced at around $10. This action has proven incredibly successful with Fables and Y The Last Man, and has kept Losers and Human Target alive.
Granted, these are Vertigo books - though certainly a wide spread in terms of subject material and style - and the DCU superhero side has not seemed to benefit the same way from this tactic (Dial H for HERO, Aquaman, Fallen Angel, Gotham Central). But if the Legion can stretch beyond the appearance of a DCU Superhero book and return to its Superhero/Science Fiction straddling roots, then it's certainly possible that the series could be supported in similar fashion. Right?
Just wanted to point another avenue of sales support on this thread.
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The scariest thing about all this is that Mark Waid believes his own prediction. This isn't a Stan Lee type boast to boost sales, it's what he actually believes. It just goes to show how delusional Waid has become, and how impaired his judgement is. Those sales figures on Birthright and FF are nothing to write home about. Waid is descending to Peter David levels of sales, where a loyal readership will follow him around, but not much else.
At least Stan Lee knew when he was full of shit - Waid doesn't.
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After seeing the buzz generated by the mere solicit and cover image for LSH # 1, I predict that both LSH # 1 AND # 2 will place solidly within the Top 50.
# 3 and # 4 will see a drop, but based on the book's quality, # 5 and #6 will either see a jump back up or a continuation of the standard comic sales erosion.
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quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: After seeing the buzz generated by the mere solicit and cover image for LSH # 1, I predict that both LSH # 1 AND # 2 will place solidly within the Top 50.
Well, considering that July's 50th place was Thor #82, with estimated sales of 36,094, if it doesn't keep above that level, there's no buzz there and it'll be lucky to see out the year.
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