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Posted by Thriftshop Debutante on :
 
Well, I haven't. (Until now.)
 

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Posted by MLLASH on :
 
Well Teeds, why don't you give us brief synopses of your feelings in re: the 2 afore-mentioned characters?
 

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Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
They would make a lousy couple.
 

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Posted by Poverty Lad on :
 
Interesting pairing, as I have strong feelings on how these two have been handled post-boot.

On the one hand, I finally liked Gim. He really came into his own characterwise. Basically a good guy, kinda thick and stubborn, but always wanting to be the best and do the right thing. His death, more than Vi's "Eye"ness, signalled the beginning of the reboot's decline for me.

Umbra... Shady was always a favorite of mine. I was happy to see her reappear... but UMBRA?? So why did she have a big frickin' "S" incorporated into her costume?! I loved her new "darker" personality, until she became a one-note character. It wasn't until DnA got ahold of her in LLost that I started warming to her again. I can't WAIT to see issue 24!
 

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Posted by Future on :
 
Wow! I just realized that, postboot, Gim and Tasmia have never met. I don't know why, but that just seems so odd considering how long they both served in the preboot with everyone else. Come to think of it, have the two really ever interacted or had a scene together in the preboot aside from meetings and team gatherings?
 

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Posted by Fat Cramer on :
 
Umbra may seem grumpy, but I like her too much to fix her up with a dead guy. And the "S" stands for "Kick-ass" in Talokian.
 

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Posted by Future on :
 

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Originally posted by Fat Cramer:
Umbra may seem grumpy, but I like her too much to fix her up with a dead guy. And the "S" stands for "Kick-ass" in Talokian.

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It also stands for "Sexy!" Rrrow!
 

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Posted by icefire on :
 
I really miss Gim and would love for him to retur n!!!
 

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Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Actually Gim and Shady would make an interesting pairing. There both essentially warriors, but of very different sorts. Gim is the ultimate "loyal soldier", the by-the-book star-of-the-academy kind, while Shady is the "planetary champion", the lone symbol and representative of her people, the chosen-by-her-birthright to train to kick ass.

I don't know... I find it kind of appealing in a way...
 

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Posted by Arachne on :
 
Hmm, that could make for some interesting scenes, especially the first time Tasmia decided not to follow orders. I think they'd both need to lighten up a bit before anything romantic could happen, though.
 

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Posted by MLLASH on :
 
Gim would have to LIVEN up too... worst death of the postboot!!!
 

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Posted by deanlegion on :
 
I'm impressed that this topic about Shadow Lass and Colossal Boy has turned into a discussion about Leviathan and Umbra. It's times like this when the preboot seems ever distant.

I think Umbra would be annoyed by Leviathan's power. Like she'd prefer a man who was powerful at his regular size. I conversely think that Gim would be very attracted to the exoticly beautiful Tasmia.
 

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Posted by Fat Cramer on :
 
You're right Dean - SL & CB are two different characters from Umbra and Leviathan. I didn't even notice what I was thinking!

Shadow Lass is fixed in my mind as an attachment to Mon-el/Valor - but it could have been interesting to have Gim consoling her after the loss of Mon-el (if Yera wasn't in the picture) - even back then, two very different personalities. But he had an odd mix of loyal puppy-dog and strength that she might go for.
 

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Posted by Thriftshop Debutante on :
 
I've never started topics about Umbra or Leviathan either.
 

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Posted by Fat Cramer on :
 
Why is that, Thriftshop? Do you think it indicates some deep-seated aversion to grumpy blue women and really, really tall guys?
 

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Posted by Thriftshop Debutante on :
 
I've never started topics about Element Lad or Phantom Girl.
 

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Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 

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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
Actually Gim and Shady would make an interesting pairing. There both essentially warriors, but of very different sorts. Gim is the ultimate "loyal soldier", the by-the-book star-of-the-academy kind, while Shady is the "planetary champion", the lone symbol and representative of her people, the chosen-by-her-birthright to train to kick ass.

I don't know... I find it kind of appealing in a way...

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Strangely, I don't find this appealing at all anymore.
 

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Posted by CandleLSHlight on :
 
Nothing about Shadow Lass is appealing anymore.
 

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Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
 
Leviathan was one of the more clever new monikers, while Umbra was one of the worst.
 

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Posted by future king on :
 
I always thought that 3boot Shadow Lass (what a floozy) slept with all the Legion guys, so Gym was a part of that maybe?
As far as a regular couple though I don't know ... to me the pair is a sort of mis-match. Their personalities would clash I think. At least this current Levitz pair would.
 

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Posted by cleome on :
 


Shady just can't catch a break, can she? (Seriously. Was there anyone she was actually with canonically in Threeboot apart from Ultra Boy and Karate Kid? Looking forward to posts all about what "floozies" the two of them must be. Ho hum.)

Thanks for the High School flashback there, fk.



Some days I honestly wonder why I came back to fandom at all...
 

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Posted by cleome on :
 

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Originally posted by CandleLSHlight:
Nothing about Shadow Lass is appealing anymore.

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Originally posted by cleome45:

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Originally posted by CandleLSHlight:
Nothing about Shadow Lass is appealing anymore.

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Oh, I agree. Everything else she's ever done is completely null and void because her current love interest/sex partner is a bad person (and their partnership isn't very well-explained or plausible due to less-than-satisfactory writing. Really).

(That was sarcasm, BTW.)

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I'm afraid I still find her boring.
Shadow Lass just doesn't hold a candle to Umbra (pun intended. )

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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid:
Leviathan was one of the more clever new monikers, while Umbra was one of the worst.

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I wrote a letter about combining Shady with Lady Memory and I think I included a new name for her - Umbra.
Umbra is the dark just before dawn, IIRC, the blackest part of the night.
It also sort of combined Shady's power/cave idea with Lady Memory's darker personality and living with the past.
That's how I saw it, anyway.
That and I just couldn't find anything else that worked for me, at the time.

Whether that was the writer's reasoning or not, I don't know.

As for looks, KItson't Gim was to die for.
Whatahunk!
sigh
But, Barry's an amazing artist; his characters actually look different from each other, as do Coipel's creations, but he never got to draw Gim in the book itself, I think.

When Dreamy was introduced, the boys went gaga over her and I'm pretty sure she was considered the most beautiful of the girls, especially back then.

Umbra and Leviathan I can't see as a couple, ever.
Not only did he die before she joined but he was just too nice.
I don't think she would have understood someone WANTING to be a hero when that was all she really knew how to be.

3boot's pair, maybe, but he didn't really like being 'small', so maybe not.

The original boot, probably not, either.
Gim never had much self-confidence.
But their IQ's are actually similar - Shady's at 5 and Gim at 6, which might have worked okay.
Levitz and Crow wrote 'the Companion' ages ago, though, back when women were still struggling to be taken seriously, but most of the Legionnaires came in around 5 or 6, to be honest, with just a few in the 7 to 25 range - Brin was the only 4, I think.

The retro/Nuboot Tasmia seems to like powerful men who are needy, but not too needy.
Gim might work powerwise, except that his 'needy' areas lie in his self-confidence and fighting judgement, two flaws that THIS Tasmia doesn't seem to have much patience with.


[ December 05, 2011, 01:13 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 

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Posted by razsolo on :
 
Hmmm, Shady and Gim.....now that she's single and he thinks Yera is dead, I guess the door is open for the possibility at least.

I think he would be intimidated by her in a relationship though, it seems that he was attracted to Yera's naivete in the same way he was always attracted to Vi's shyness and insecurity. Notice that since Gim hooked up with Yera and Vi's personality did a complete 180, there hasn't been even any acknowledgement of the crush he had on Vi for years....I think once she became all aggressive it completely turned him off. I remember a scene just before Magic Wars when Gim and Yera were arguing and he seemed to be unable to deal with her being overtly angry, so I really think he just can't cope with that kind of attitude in a woman.

As for Shady...who knows what she's attracted to anymore? Moving from Brainy to Mon-El makes sense in that they are both pretty intellectually driven, but then she unceremoniously goes from Mon to Earth-Man of all people, and says it's because she's attracted to his power. If power were all she were attracted to, why would she have chosen Brainy to begin with, and why WOULDN'T she have chosen Superboy? There has to be something more to it, but buggered if I can figure out what it is aside from some asinine mind-alteration subplot.

We found out in Adventure that Shadow Lad has now returned to their homeworld to act as its planetary protector, maybe Shady's recent actions are just the result of her having some kind of crisis over that? Like maybe she thinks she's okay with Grev stealing her thunder, but she secretly has some resenment towards the Legion and specifically Mon-El for keeping her away from her home duties so long that now her cousin has been given her job? I would be more okay with that than with the explanation she's given.

If I had to pick potential love interests for them both out of the current cast....I would say Tinya for Gim (assuming Jo is out of the picture), and Lydda and Shady would actually be a very interesting match at the moment.....
 

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