What is this all about? Are they conspiring to make me interested in more than just two of PG's attributes? Posted by Tamper Lad on :
Geoff Johns has just thrown a curveball. He's been hinting that PG was from the future since she joined the JSA around issue 30, many speculated it had to do with the Titans Tomorrow arc. Johns also hinted that the cover of JSA:C #2 would reveal significant aspects of the origin in his newsarama interview about this story arc.
Could it be more misdirection or does Brainy have yet another big blonde for his unrequited affections? Is this the "more recent" character that is scheduled to join the legion?
[ May 16, 2005, 08:09 AM: Message edited by: Tamper Lad ]
Posted by lil'rhino on :
OMG! Finally!! Amanda Conner draws the LEGION!!!! If somebody tells me she's doing interiors too, I'll be a very happy boy!!
Posted by Blacula on :
She's doing interiors too. Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
Holy Magoley!
You know, usually I'd think I'd be hesitate for this, but I'm kinda excited about it. PG with the Legion? This sounds kinda kewl!
Posted by Haggard Lad on :
Well crap! I was planning to skip the first JSA: Classified arc (I'm more excited about rumored stories taking place in the JSA's past). But, Geoff Johns found the one thing that would make me interested in Power Girl's origin.
But I'm glad I found out about this now incase the story sells out at my retailer.
Posted by lil'rhino on :
quote:Originally posted by Blacula: She's doing interiors too.
Thanks for making me happy Blacula!!
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
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JSA CLASSIFIED #2
Written by Geoff Johns
Art and cover by Amanda Conner & Jimmy Palmiotti
The new series continues with a story shedding light on the origin of the mysterious Power Girl! On her way to Metropolis, Power Girl is confronted by three brave heroes from the far future. But the "reunion" is interrupted before it begins by the menace of Mordru! Meanwhile, a shocking new member of the Secret Society of Super-Villains is revealed.
On sale August 24 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US
Posted by EmeraldEmpress on :
Imra look very sexy in this cover, and the costume looks different....pink and I see more flesh. Maybe we have another alternate Legion? The idea of Power Girl in the Legion is fantastic. With Kara in the present, maybe she can be the Supergirl from the future related with the Superman family. A big Andromeda Vs Power Girl clash could'been terrific!
Posted by lil'rhino on :
The shoes! Lookit the FABOO shoes!
Posted by Tromium on :
Oh no, please, not Power Girl of all people. Her backstory has to be the screwiest in the DCU and now it looks to get even screwier. Next revelation: she's really Laurel Gand after multiple boob augmentations. Blech, blech, blech, except for Mordru.
I hope to gods Imra doesn't really wear THAT awful costume. Garth is very lucky Karen didn't aim a little bit lower.
No good will come of this, imo.
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
When I first saw this I asked what Saturn girl was doing with her right arm... but upon further review I see she's not punching Power Girl...
Imra's got a FISTFULL OF HAIR. How's that for a catfight.
Posted by wamu2 on :
what I find interesting is that the image contains the 3 founding members. I wonder if this supposed to be a membership invitation that went really wrong?
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
That's an interesting idea, wamu2. But, the solicitation mentions that this is a "reunion." Maybe they think they are meeting Supergirl again and get confused?
Posted by ferroboy on :
quote:Originally posted by Mystery Lad: spoiler space
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JSA CLASSIFIED #2
Written by Geoff Johns
Art and cover by Amanda Conner & Jimmy Palmiotti
The new series continues with a story shedding light on the origin of the mysterious Power Girl! On her way to Metropolis, Power Girl is confronted by three brave heroes from the far future. But the "reunion" is interrupted before it begins by the menace of Mordru! Meanwhile, a shocking new member of the Secret Society of Super-Villains is revealed.
On sale August 24 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US
Hmm...so the Legion encuonters Power Girl *and* Mordru. He already knows that it's his fate to be trounced by the Legion 1000 years in the future. Could this be their first battle?
Posted by ferroboy on :
The Supergirl idea seems plausible, but...we know that PG is sometimes weakened by kryptonite. If she were a descendent of Kal-El she could have inherited (at least partially) his weakness to kryptonite. And is it still in-continuity that PG had more powers but lost them after getting a severe beating? If so, the half-breed Kryptonian idea seems ever more plausible.
Posted by wamu2 on :
quote:Originally posted by ferroboy: The Supergirl idea seems plausible, but...we know that PG is sometimes weakened by kryptonite. If she were a descendent of Kal-El she could have inherited (at least partially) his weakness to kryptonite. And is it still in-continuity that PG had more powers but lost them after getting a severe beating? If so, the half-breed Kryptonian idea seems ever more plausible.
half-breed Kryptonian. I can only assume the... huh conception process was handled very carefully.
Posted by rjbrande on :
Bah. I'm a huge PG fan, and a huge Legion fan, but these are just two great tastes that don't taste great together.
The Legion extracts itself once again from the continuous chaos that is the mainstream DCU, and then hooks up with the poster girl for "We have no idea what we're doing with continuity."
Nothing good can come from this.
Posted by Jorg-EM on :
Groovy. Sadly with the Legion being rebooted so many darn times and PG it may get sticky but atleast it sounds fun.
Definately Mordu is involved!
Posted by armsfalloffboy on :
I think she's Laurel Gand. I might be okay with that, if it's handled well. Can't wait to get this one...
Posted by wamu2 on :
well, I will reserve judgement until the I see how it all plays out. However, as a rule I really dislike the whole time travel theme in comics.
but, with the prevalance of time travel that has been poping up in DC books of late(Titans, JSA,Bats & Supes,etc) I guess it was bound to touch the legion revamp at some point.
my head already hurts from trying to understand all the posts here and elsewhere about what character power girl may turn out to be.(granted I am new and don't know much about legion history) but hey, maybe, just maybe it will turn out to be an elegant and sensible story.
Posted by matlock on :
Maybe there was a reason Waid name-dropped Rokynites in issue 3. That was the pre-Byrne world that was colonized by the enlarged population of Kandor. Sure, none of that stuff has happened in current continuity but who's to say it won't by the Legion's time? Personally, I think Kandor is still a pretty cool idea. I never really cared about Superman being the sole survivor of Krypton in the first place.
Posted by Rurouni KJS on :
Crap. Now I have to buy this.
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
Here's a larger look at the cover:
Posted by the boy with UltraPowers on :
well this has got me intrigued !! not sure how much of a good idea it is ??
but, with GEOFF JOHNS writing it, it should turn out pretty well !!
Matthew.
Posted by jimgallagher on :
I want no more Supergirl substitutes in the Legion! I want the real thing, dammit!
Posted by MLLASH on :
quote:Originally posted by armsfalloffboy: I think she's Laurel Gand. I might be okay with that, if it's handled well. Can't wait to get this one...
*Mouth drops at the notion*
Certainly an interesting idea.
[ May 17, 2005, 07:36 PM: Message edited by: MLLASH ]
Posted by Disaster Boy on :
noooo i like power girl and i like laurel gand and i like super girl. no replacements they are different. isn't pg about 25 anyways. she was never a teen character except maybe waaayyyyy back in infiniti inc.
Posted by Jorg-EM on :
Sadly when i was introduced to the Legion and Power Girl they seemed older than her.
I hate seeing them as pip squeaks next to a hero. Can't wait for the Cockrum type Legion to appear. pip squeak legion don't sell very well but i guess they don't get that yet.
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
Wow! How did I miss this thread? We've already seen that the future isn't set in stone folks. Apparently multiple futures are possible (but not multiple pasts). Maybe Power Girl is Laurel Gand and Rond Vidar's daughter from the story about the war with the disk-heads. remember? She disappeared and was never recovered prior to End of An Era. Wow. Heck, as far as I care she could even be the original version and be the original Earth-2 Kal-L's cousin. I'd love to see Wally Wood's Power Girl make it into the LSH. Whatever happens it just made into my "must buy" list. Cool cover too.
[ May 17, 2005, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Yellow Kid ]
Posted by Juan on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH:
quote:Originally posted by armsfalloffboy: I think she's Laurel Gand. I might be okay with that, if it's handled well. Can't wait to get this one...
*Mouth drops at the notion*
Certainly an interesting idea.
I would just hate it.
Posted by PolarBoy on :
Dear God nooooooo!!!!!
Wasn't the whole point of this half arsed reboot because legion continuity was too convoluted for new fans and now you want to throw Powergirl in the mix. This could be the moment people reflect on in a few years as to when the reboot when to poop.
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
The one true origin of Power Girl
PG was sent by the threeboot legion founders to the 1960s to acquire the silver age comics that 31st century teens read. They really love Curt Swan illustrated Superman and the old JSA/JLA teamups and ordered these heavily.
On the way back to the 31st century, the toxic fumes given off by the decaying newsprint and lead residue from the printing process played havoc with her Daxamite physiology causing her to lose her memory. However she retained memories from her original orders and believed that she was some how linked to superman of earth-2.
When her ship was lost, PG's mother (the comic lady of legion HQ) dispatched Arion whose store (Atlantis Comics) is the largest transchronal wholesaler of silver age memoriabilia in the timestream, to protect PG and the lost comics until another timeship could be sent rescue her.
[ May 17, 2005, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: Tamper Lad ]
Posted by armsfalloffboy on :
Of course, now that I think about it, the peekaboo nature of PG's top combined with the bottomless attributes of TMK Laurel could make for my NEW FAVORITE HEROINE!
Kidding, kidding. I'm not necessarily saying I'm all for PG as Andromeda, but if done well, I could live with it.
Posted by Jorg-EM on :
Being the daughter of Vidar and Laurel Gand is a very interesting idea!!!
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
and that would give somebody an excuse to eventually use Universo as a 21st Century villian just like they did with 'ol winghead, Mordru.
I know it's controversial but I am SO looking forward to this issue.
Posted by baycent54 on :
Did anyone notice that Lightning Lad's bolt seems to be hitting Imra in the...arse?
Posted by Charles Phipps on :
He hits her alot with his bolts there...
and weirdly, the connotations of that statement are unintentional.
[ May 18, 2005, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Charles Phipps ]
Posted by superboymddjr on :
I will have to dig it up - someone mentioned the preview on JSA Classified #3 and Power Girl's connection to Mordru. Be back soon.
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
?? It appears she gets the whole "origin of Supergirl" treatment in the preview. Interesting...but there's something else going on in the last couple of panels that could change everything. ...hhhmmmm...
Posted by superboymddjr on :
ah....like i said before - i found it!
here it is: > JSA CLASSIFIED #3 > Written by Geoff Johns > Art and cover by Amanda Conner & Jimmy Palmiotti > Finally it can be revealed, the shocking origin of > Power Girl. Torn > from the late 20th Century, she was the mystical > twin of the true Kara > Zor-EL, created by Mordru in his quest for revenge > against the JSA, and > flung far into the 31st Century. She was a member of > the Legion, but > the question is, what Legion? The answer will > astound you, and open the > floodgates to an Infinite Crisis.
Posted by MLLASH on :
ohmiGAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Awkward Pause Boy on :
Amd I was hoping she'd be revealed to be Satan Girl
Posted by SiliconDream on :
So...they just went ahead and gave her every possible origin simultaneously, then?
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by SiliconDream: So...they just went ahead and gave her every possible origin simultaneously, then?
Yep Johns is known for this (see the new Hawkman) and he's had this story in mind for two years since JSA issue 45. I all aflutter wondering which legion she was supergirl in?
Nothing's off the table now. Maybe Earth-2 had a legion after all and this new WaK legion is almost an exact replica leading into crisis?. Maybe we'll be seing a 15 year old powergirl joining full time in WaK .
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: ohmiGAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You said it!!!
Mordru and the Legion at the center of Infinite Crisis, with Supergirl and Power Girl! J-j-jeepers!
[ May 19, 2005, 07:23 AM: Message edited by: Cobalt Kid ]
Posted by Charles Phipps on :
So where did he get the info?
Posted by matlock on :
Interesting. I've been wondering for years if they'd ever retell Crisis post-Zero Hour (and now post-WaK) in a way that deals with the Legion's involvement. Did the post-Crisis, post-Zero Hour Crisis event cut across the timestream like the original did?
Posted by armsfalloffboy on :
I think she's from the Pocket Universe.
Posted by wamu2 on :
quote:Originally posted by matlock: Interesting. I've been wondering for years if they'd ever retell Crisis post-Zero Hour (and now post-WaK) in a way that deals with the Legion's involvement. Did the post-Crisis, post-Zero Hour Crisis event cut across the timestream like the original did?
wow. just reading that makes my head hurt. wamu2 think himself smart, but wamu2 no understand time travel. help.
but seriously, does this mean that the revamp is going to get revamped in a couple of months?
Posted by Omni Craig on :
This new origin spackles quite a bit of things together doesn't it?
It seems like a combination of Byrne's take on Donna Troy/Wonder Girl, being a "brought to life" mirror image of Diana) and Darkseid's kidnapping of Garridan Ranzz (the "hidden" twin of Garth and Imra), mutating him into Validus and throwing him into the past...
I trust Geoff, but I hope it isn't too soon in the WaK Legionverse to be introducing 21st Century DC characters. We're repeating a messy history, it's just a new and improved future we're muckin' with!
[ May 19, 2005, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: Omni Craig ]
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
With any luck they have to coordinate the appearence with Steve Wacker and Mark Waid. (that editorial oversight thing) I'll bet there's a "catch" to it that keeps it out of the Legion continuity for the time being.
Posted by ferroboy on :
quote:Originally posted by Disaster Boy: noooo i like power girl and i like laurel gand and i like super girl. no replacements they are different. isn't pg about 25 anyways. she was never a teen character except maybe waaayyyyy back in infiniti inc.
PG was an adult when first introduced. This is why I think the Laurel Kent idea works best since it doesn't necessarily tie her to the Legion, but may link her to their era.
Posted by ferroboy on :
quote:Originally posted by PolarBoy: Dear God nooooooo!!!!!
Wasn't the whole point of this half arsed reboot because legion continuity was too convoluted for new fans and now you want to throw Powergirl in the mix. This could be the moment people reflect on in a few years as to when the reboot when to poop.
I thought the reboot was a sales issue rather than any idea that it was convoluted. It was anything but that.
[ May 22, 2005, 01:41 PM: Message edited by: ferroboy ]
Posted by ferroboy on :
quote:Originally posted by Charles Phipps: He hits her alot with his bolts there...
and weirdly, the connotations of that statement are unintentional.
Looks cool. Note the very Silver Age winged person in the one shot. Error or retcon?
Posted by ferroboy on :
quote:Originally posted by superboymddjr: ah....like i said before - i found it!
here it is: > JSA CLASSIFIED #3 > Written by Geoff Johns > Art and cover by Amanda Conner & Jimmy Palmiotti > Finally it can be revealed, the shocking origin of > Power Girl. Torn > from the late 20th Century, she was the mystical > twin of the true Kara > Zor-EL, created by Mordru in his quest for revenge > against the JSA, and > flung far into the 31st Century. She was a member of > the Legion, but > the question is, what Legion? The answer will > astound you, and open the > floodgates to an Infinite Crisis.
Arrrgh! It's Donna Troy all over again! I blame John Byrne!
Posted by ferroboy on :
quote:Originally posted by Awkward Pause Boy: Amd I was hoping she'd be revealed to be Satan Girl
Wish granted, apparently. Sort of, anyway.
Posted by PolarBoy on :
quote:Originally posted by ferroboy:
quote:Originally posted by PolarBoy: Dear God nooooooo!!!!!
Wasn't the whole point of this half arsed reboot because legion continuity was too convoluted for new fans and now you want to throw Powergirl in the mix. This could be the moment people reflect on in a few years as to when the reboot when to poop.
I thought the reboot was a sales issue rather than any idea that it was convoluted. It was anything but that.
That was part of this why this is reboot is great spin was because aparently new readers wouldnt know where chemical king was from so we needed new continuity. So in a brilliant piece of whatever you want to call it in under 6 months they have brought the JSA in the mix (One of the other main offenders for convoluted continuity) and made PG (The single most convoluted character ever) a member. Sales were down but all these new readers who might not know or might not want to pick up another book will now have this thrown at them.
Posted by ferroboy on :
Chemical King? He wasn't exactly part of the book, at least not with super-powers. I still don't think it was convoluted. You could make a case with the post-Crisis, pre-ZH Legion, but not with the reboot Legion. My take is that something closer to the original Legion was desired since it was definitely a sale success.
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
>bump<
'cause Stu asked for it. Well, Arachne asked too.
I don't see the Preview right off but if you read through the thread I think it might be linked in one of the posts.
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
SPOILERS!!!!!!!
Be sure to pick up issue #1.
[ August 27, 2005, 02:50 AM: Message edited by: Nightcrawler ]
Posted by Faraway Lad on :
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During a medical examination, Dr. Mid-Nite reiterated to Power Girl that her abilities were neither Kryptonian nor mystical in nature.
Power Girl then got into a destructive battle with Garn Daanuth, the brother of the Atlantean sorcerer Arion — that is, until he disappeared...and the JSA stated that he was never there!
Three mysterious figures were summoned and told "it's time to meet your Power Girl"...and were then revealed to be Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl and Cosmic Boy of the Legion of Super-Heroes!
So what gives? Is JSA Classified out already because I'm sure it's not listed until next week?
Posted by Tromium on :
Hint: he remembers the pre-Crisis universe.
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Faraway Lad: So what gives? Is JSA Classified out already because I'm sure it's not listed until next week?
Actually #1 is on the list for release this week. And now I'll have to go get it since I didn't bother ordering one.
quote:Originally posted by Tromium: The cover of JSA:Classified #4 might also provide some clues.
Hint: he remembers the pre-Crisis universe.
Has he showed up since the original Crisis? I don't recall seeing him since then. Hmm. More and more interesting.
Posted by legionadventureman on :
Not the institutionalised Psycho Pirate?
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
Here's a better look at the page Nightcrawler posted above, in full color:
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: Has he showed up since the original Crisis? I don't recall seeing him since then.
He had a memorable appearance back in "Animal Man" where he was the focal point of another "Crisis" which lead Animal Man to his historic meeting with his "writer" Grant Morrison.
Posted by RTVU2 on :
quote:Originally posted by DrakeB3004:
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: Has he showed up since the original Crisis? I don't recall seeing him since then.
He had a memorable appearance back in "Animal Man" where he was the focal point of another "Crisis" which lead Animal Man to his historic meeting with his "writer" Grant Morrison.
That's all I can remember too, but I have to think that someone has used him in the last 10 years or since that story...
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: Here's a better look at the page Nightcrawler posted above, in full color:
Thanks! I meant to replace that one when I got the issue but I forgot.
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by RTVU2:
quote:Originally posted by DrakeB3004:
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: Has he showed up since the original Crisis? I don't recall seeing him since then.
He had a memorable appearance back in "Animal Man" where he was the focal point of another "Crisis" which lead Animal Man to his historic meeting with his "writer" Grant Morrison.
That's all I can remember too, but I have to think that someone has used him in the last 10 years or since that story...
He has appeared twice since the Animal Man story. Both times in the Joker: Last Laugh series. Once in the Secret Files and once in issue #3. That was in 2001. The Animal Man story took place 12 years prior to that.
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: Here's a better look at the page Nightcrawler posted above, in full color:
Thanks! I meant to replace that one when I got the issue but I forgot.
No problem. I figured since I was scanning the issue (found a copy), I might as well post the image.
Posted by Awkward Pause Boy on :
I'm not sure these three have looked worse since the last Legion Secret Files.
Posted by Caliente on :
Aww, I thought they looked cute...
Posted by Tromium on :
I never read any of the Psycho Pirate's post-COIE appearances, but I did some googling earlier, and the PP subplot in Morrison's 'Animal Man' involves the deranged Pirate trying to undo the Crisis by conjuring up the lost Earths and all their lost stories and characters. Apparently, the multiple earths were inside of him all along, or at least he imagined they were.
I doubt the story was considered in continuity then, but it's very curious that he should show up again on the eve of the next Crisis, giving birth to what looks like the WaK Legion founders.
[ July 24, 2005, 05:41 AM: Message edited by: Tromium ]
Posted by googoomuck on :
They look like the WaK founders to me. Is Powergirl and the JSA going to be the link to the 21st Century for the Legion in the same way that Superboy (Silver Age) was the Vol1 Legion's link to the 20th Century?
I was reading JSA Classified #1 and my wife wanted to know if they could make Powergirls boobs any bigger.
That's a thumbnail click on it for a bigger image.
[ July 24, 2005, 08:44 AM: Message edited by: googoomuck ]
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
I liked the line: "Green Lantern used to ask me why I never wore a mask. It's becuase most of the time, they ain't lookin at my face." Posted by lil'rhino on :
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: Here's a better look at the page Nightcrawler posted above, in full color:
*DROOL* God, do I love Amanda's art!
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
Uh, not to my tastes.
Looks like Archie, Bettie, and Reggie, on purpose. Was it meant as a joke on the Archie Legion?
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by googoomuck: I was reading JSA Classified #1 and my wife wanted to know if they could make Powergirls boobs any bigger.
That's a thumbnail click on it for a bigger image.
Blame Wally Wood (PG's creator) I don't think Wally ever figured out how to draw women with small boobs. Wally's comic book females were a drool fest for us adolescants back in the day. God bless him.
Posted by lil'rhino on :
Actually, it was Joe Staton who first gave PG the generous rack on the cover of Showcase. He mentioned it in a recent interview.
Posted by lil'rhino on :
quote:Originally posted by Blockade Boy: Uh, not to my tastes.
Looks like Archie, Bettie, and Reggie, on purpose. Was it meant as a joke on the Archie Legion?
Nope. That's just Amanda's style. Her drawings are bold and simple but somehow her panels are all chock-full of backround details, sight gags and easter eggs for the eagle-eyed reader. Funny you should mention the Archie Legion because her work has been described as " the Archie gang with sex appeal" and I believe she got her start on the Sabrina series at Archie comics. Her art is by no means standard superhero fare, having a much more satirical bent to it. Probably why she was hired for this series, since it's being played for laughs despite it's upcoming ramifications to this "Infinite Something -or-Other".
Posted by Gorilla Nebula on :
no way was it joe staton. he became the JSA artist after wally wood. i remember seeing wally wood's Power Girl and being shocked. Showcase came out years later.
Posted by RTVU2 on :
quote:Originally posted by Blockade Boy: Uh, not to my tastes.
Looks like Archie, Bettie, and Reggie, on purpose. Was it meant as a joke on the Archie Legion?
I really liked the artwork this issue. Amanada Conner defintely has her own style and it works man. The last page was great. She actually made them look like real teenagers.
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
She really hits her stride when she's drawing faces. The two panels with sad power girl flying away were great.
Posted by Jorg-EM on :
yeah i personally can't stand the 5'3" teenagers. Geez ya think in the future vitamins would make them taller than teenagers today.
I am worried about the Legion's involvement. dysfunctional continuity and all of that.
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
Buzzscope has preview scans of the issue 2 up at their site.
Anyone want to guess what that is they found in the ship? Posted by Disaster Boy on :
flight ring?
Posted by Disaster Boy on :
bart sears of j.l.e. played up pg's booobage alot.
Posted by Charles Phipps on :
I read the preview... > > > > > > > > > > > Power Girl is Andromeda. > > > > > > > > > > > END SPOILERS
[ August 17, 2005, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: Nightcrawler ]
Posted by superboymddjr on :
Hey, Charles, can you please highlight that spoiler? so it can stay hidden unless someone requests to be unhidden?
Posted by Disaster Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by Charles Phipps: I read the preview...
are you kidding? ughhhh. this is not good news.
Posted by Charles Phipps on :
I don't know how to do that.
I just think people can trust they can't read it.
But no, I'm not kidding.
SPOILERS > > > > > > > > > > > Power Girl is told by the false Legionaires (whom are supposedly "reborn" that she is Lar Gand's cousin and that she was sent back in time to establish a beachhead against Mordru. > > > > > > > > > > END SPOILERS
[ August 17, 2005, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: Nightcrawler ]
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
quote:Originally posted by Charles Phipps: I don't know how to do that.
I just think people can trust they can't read it.
But no, I'm not kidding.
Fixed. Thanks for the spoiler Charles. Can't wait to read it myself. Wanna elaborate on what you've said? (Blue=#000080 & Gray=#2f2f4f)
Posted by SouthtownKid on :
Not what I was hoping for, but better than what it was (I mean, better than what it was with the magic/atlantis stuff).
[ August 17, 2005, 05:40 PM: Message edited by: SouthtownKid ]
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
Given how this info gets revealed, I'm not going to buy this as the new gospel until the end of this arc.
Posted by CJ Taylor on :
Something in me says Peege is the child of the current S-Boy and W-Girl. Just a vibe...
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by Gorilla Nebula: no way was it joe staton. he became the JSA artist after wally wood. i remember seeing wally wood's Power Girl and being shocked. Showcase came out years later.
Thanks GN. I doubted my memory there for a minute. Staton did her first mini-series and several covers which had her early appearances. Wally always gets credit for her creation and the pic I've linked was from her first appearance alongside the JSA (as I recall).
Regarding the origin Charles gave...I like it. But there has to be much more which I am sure we will learn throughout the series.
When Arion told her something about her mom...wierd.
Posted by Stratum on :
Exactly. Something doesn't quite add up...unless there's more to THAT person than we knew.
It doesn't explain the power fluxes or what she see's in Supergirl.
Jamie
Posted by Tromium on :
Additional spoilers can be found HERE, including the identities of a couple of other Legion doppelgangers who show up, as well as the figure behind all the chaos - no real surprise there.
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
Thanks TC! (Er, just T )
That actually makes the story sound even cooler! Now...where will we go from here?
Posted by the boy with UltraPowers on :
hasn't GEOFF hinted that PG's 'mother' is someone we should know ?? in past issues of the 'JSA' !!??
i guess with 2 more parts to go, there can be still some twists and turns to come .....
btw i wasn't too keen on the art in this issue !! i thought it looked very childish !!??
Matthew.
Posted by Stratum on :
quote: hasn't GEOFF hinted that PG's 'mother' is someone we should know ?? in past issues of the 'JSA' !!??
i guess with 2 more parts to go, there can be still some twists and turns to come .....
Exactly. That's what doesn't add up.
Plus, I don't see them revealing it in just the second issue. I think we're going to be teased with all the possibilities before the big reveal.
Jamie
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
Arion said that about PG's mom. Though he's lied on this subject before he's more credible than these constructs that the mystery man is sending to talk upset PG.
I want to know if there's someone behind the metaphorical curtain as well. The person revealed in the spoiler didn't act alone in the story that leads to this one.
Posted by Stratum on :
Well, Arion said that as he was essentially dying and he asked Karen to forgive him. I don't think he was that manipulative.
I think there is someone behind the curtain. He's a bit mad but he's not alone. Of course, we may not even be seeing who we think it is. It could be someone else and they are talking to who we think it is.
Man....what a mouthful.
Jamie
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
They're not dumb enough to give away the whole story with two issues to go and in the cover image for issue 4, are they?
Posted by Stratum on :
LOL! I sure hope not.
Jamie
Posted by legionadventureman on :
They could spice up the mystery by inserting a few red herrings...but it doesnt explain how Karen Starr was able to acquire super-powers identical to Superman...if she were actually born on Earth. She'd either have to be a mutant or her mother was actually the Earth-2 Wonder Woman.
Maybe the reintegration of the multiple Earths might simplify things...???
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
Earth -2 Wonder Woman? LAM you're a genius!
Secretly married and whisked away on a honeymoon in the future Bob Cobb and Diana Prince have a daughter!
Raised in an Admiral Solid State sarcophagus she emerges into the last days of Earth-2's existance thinking she's a Kryptonian. She's not really Super Girl she's Wonder Girl...but since those names were already taken... Posted by legionadventureman on :
I had a think about it, Yellow Kid...for my theory to work, there has to be an Earth-2 Wonder Woman, which there isn't in this current continuity. The whole JSA Today thing confuses the heck out of me.
Who out of the initial membership roster are still active? If dead, who is - and how?
Black Canary's dead (coz it was revealed in JLA 220 (vol. 1) that she was) Wildcat? (is Wildcat II (Yolanda Montez) still around?)
My curious and nostalgia-plagued mind needs to know..
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
I have to think that if they bring back multiple Earths then we'll be faced with multiple JSAs (for the first time). The Earth-1 JSA had Hypollita and have been turned young several times but they're really really old guys that still fight crime and the Earth-2 JSA is the original bunch that my Comic Shop guy is such a fan of.
Wouldn't it be wierd to see the Earth-1 JSA visit the Earth-2 JSA in an old folks home?
Posted by legionadventureman on :
Just as weird - the JSA were actually the JLA and the current JLA are all biogenetically enhanced clones...and the JSA were figments of someone's imagination...
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
I predict the Earth 2 JSA will visit the modern continuity as Geoff Johns' last JSA story when he leaves the title. He loves those old crossovers and this is one story he hasn't done yet. He used Syl Pemberton once already and I imagine we'll get Huntress, the adult Robin etc.
Posted by legionadventureman on :
Whats going on here? Wasnt Skyman/SSK killed in the later issues of INFINITY INC?
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
LAM:
- There is a Golden Age Wonder Woman, Diana's Mom, Queen Hippotolyta. She travelled back as time as Wonder Woman and joined the JSA for about nine years. She recently died in 'Our Worlds at War' (blame John "who else?" Byrne for this retcon).
- Wildcat II (Yolanda Montez) was part of a group of heroes that were killed by Eclipso in his own title. This included (but not limited to) Peacemaker, Dr. Midnight II, some others.
- Skyman/SSK (Sylvester Pembleton) was killed post-crisis by Solomon Grundy, which still exists in present continuity.
What I believe Tamper Lad is referring to, is that if there ever was another Earht-2 crossover, it might include some of the JSAers still alive right before Crisis, including adult Robin, Earth-2 Huntress (daughter of Bats and Catwoman) and Star-Spangled Kid.
- Not actually sure about Black Canary I. Is she dead in continuity? I'm pretty sure she is, but nowadays am never positive...
Hope this helps Posted by Nightcrawler on :
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: - Not actually sure about Black Canary I. Is she dead in continuity? I'm pretty sure she is, but nowadays am never positive...
Who knows with DC post-Crisis continuity (Thanks DC for making it easier! ), but her post-Crisis death was shown in a hospital in SECRET ORIGINS Vol. 2 #50.
Posted by SouthtownKid on :
quote:Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: - Not actually sure about Black Canary I. Is she dead in continuity? I'm pretty sure she is, but nowadays am never positive...
Who knows with DC post-Crisis continuity (Thanks DC for making it easier! )
Seriously. Before, I could just say, "there are two Wonder Women. There are two Supermen, etc. Okay, I get it." Now, everyone is their own mother, I have no idea which stories still really "happened", or if they did happen, who was even there.
Like how Canary replaces WW in all the old JLA stories. WW would fly in her jet all around the world to face whatever menace with her super strength, and that's supposed to be replaced by a mostly normal girl on a motorcycle? I'm supposed to believe Canary floated her motorcycle to the middle of the Atlantic and stood on the handlebar while she lassoed an alien out of the ocean with her belt?
Some things are so simple now, I can't understand them.
Posted by legionadventureman on :
It does, Cobie, it does
Posted by Stratum on :
Also, didn't the Earth-2 Robin die in the actual Crisis Maxi-series?
Here is the Wikipedia entries for the JSA, All-Stars, the Seven Soldiers of Victory, and Infinity, Inc.
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