Does anyone else hope that we get a version of Zoe in the new Legion?
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
I'd love to see that, as long as they don't screw her up as badly as they did in her previous incarnation!
Posted by Mattropolis on :
Well yeah, she really did have a great start though. She had a lot of potential that was squandered, I think.
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
Loved her in the reboot. I was so dissapointed when they started screwing her up and just never stopped.
Posted by Mattropolis on :
It was like they knew that she was the "blank slate" and they could try anything with her.
The sad thing is that her original "state" was fine the way it is and actually added something to the Legion.
Posted by KryptonKid on :
It might be interesting to have XS curious about counterparts in her new dimention. She could drag along Gates searching for a Zoe and the rest. Might make a good Annual story.
Posted by Mattropolis on :
KK, that's the perfect hook! I love it!
Posted by Set on :
I wouldn't mind reading the adventures of the 'Forgotten Legion' with members like Devlin O'Ryan and Danielle Foccart and Dragonmage and Dream Boy and Shikari and Kinetix and Gazelle.
A few from each of the 'missing' groups.
Note that I know nothing about Devlin or Kinetix, and reserve the right to hate them. Posted by Quislet, Esq. on :
I loved the initial Kinetix - smart and assertive. That Kinetix I would want to see.
Posted by Pov on :
quote:Originally posted by Set: Note that I know nothing about Devlin...and reserve the right to hate [him].
Oh, and you -would-...! The TMK "Reflecto"... Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
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Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
You guys just hate him because he totally hooked up with SW6 Vi off-panel.
Posted by Mattropolis on :
Who didn't?
Posted by Candle on :
I love the idea of XS and Gates doing a little searching for former teammates in this DCU! I'd really enjoy an older version of Gear, Kid Quantum II and Sizzle in the retroLegion!
The reboot's Zoe, with her life force and power, are in Mysa, and perhaps her thoughts, too. I'd like to see her released someday and either stay in the retroera or join the New wanderers.
I'm one of the few (maybe only) Legion fans who seems to think that she wasn't handled so badly considering her given personality. I liked most of her troubles and changes, actually.
Avarice and hunger for power gets people in strange places in real life, so I should think that it would in the DCU, as well. That need to get better and more powerful is a major part of her personality. If that's taken away, she's pretty much just a pretty redhead with Life Lass powers. Which might be okay, if a little boring.
I have to admit that I didn't care, at all, for that last Terra storyline transformation, but crossovers are always doing stuff like that. I just think that she should have changed back to some sort of semblance of her original form afterward.
Anyway, to answer the question, yes, I'd like to see a version of Zoe in the retroLegion.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Hmm... even though I've never bought the "Zoe is a reboot Life Lass" argument (their powers are actually quite a bit different), it would be interesting if their search for Zoe actually led them to Life Lass...
Posted by Set on :
quote:Originally posted by Candle: Avarice and hunger for power gets people in strange places in real life, so I should think that it would in the DCU, as well.
One of my favorite super-heroes, Booster Gold, got to the 'super-hero' stage through some fairly convoluted contortions, and still isn't exactly the poster-child for 'boy scout' superheroes.
A few members on the team who came there through non standards 'superhero' motivations, like Ultra Boy (former gang-member), Night Girl (got her powers to impress a boy) and Chameleon Girl (yeah, sorry Vi!), add some fun personal interactions, IMO.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
What's fascinating about Kinetix is, though, that hers was never a selfish desire for power. She wanted power in order to be able to better help others, which seemed to me kind of unique.
Posted by ActorLad on :
One of the things I miss most about her is her friendship with Violet.
Posted by Mattropolis on :
SOmething about her just... worked for me. While I don't see myself as power hungry, I did see a lot of myself in her...
Posted by Blacula on :
Another big Kinetix fan here.
Her character was going so right until they sent her into that anomaly and she came back a tall (which, :wtf: )brain-dead vegetable for about a year. A completely useless and pointless character turn.
Then DnA came on board and in that Worlds issue brought back the fun, bubbly, can-do Kinetix that we all knew and love. And showed that they really got her character too. I was thrilled. And then all of a sudden they went and turned her into that terra-morph zombie thing and that was the end.
Geoff Johns' killing of her was an act of mercy IMO.
Poor Kinetix.
What could have been. Posted by Candle on :
There's a lot of that, 'what could have been' in the DCU.
I almost said her TK powers, but went with Life Lass because that's what I rmember from her introduction.
And I agree that her motives were usually okay, but she wanted the Eye pretty badly and her almost trance-like attitude around artifacts suggested something deeper going on, which is a plus, really.
Zoe had flaws and we identify with flaws, I do anyway. I love Cos, but he's as remote in his perfection as Brainy is in his super-intellegence or Imra is in her cold self-control.
Zoe's more like 'us'. imo
Posted by kcekada on :
Kinetix and XS were the two best things to come out of the 90s Legion.
Unfortuantely, Kinetix was ruined with all of the ridiculous changes made to her. But aren't her orginal powers very similar to Quislet's abilities? I guess she'd be a bit redundant. And I wouldn't want to see her as a sorceress -- that's the White Witch's department.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Yeah, her powers are pretty close to Quislet's, though the current Legion seems to have completely thrown out the "duplication of powers" rule.
For the record:
1) Kinetix = telekinetic who can restructure objects at the micro-scale.
2) Quislet = inhabits inanimate objects and restrutures them at the micro-scale, plus what he inhabits disintegrates after a certain amount of time.
3) Life Lass = brings objects "to life", basically turning them into semi-anthropomorphic versions of whatever they were.
One big difference between Life Lass and the others is that her animations seem to be largely autonomous. It's not clear if there's a time limit or she has to de-animate them, but I kind of like the idea that there's all these things that she brought to life just wandering around Lallor.
Posted by Jerry on :
I liked Zoe's original green outfit better than the orange/reddish one. It was kind of fun when she had a tail.
Posted by Set on :
Green went better with her hair.
Jean Grey figured that out!
Posted by Blacula on :
Kinetix definitely looked better in green... but since her, Jean Grey, Maxima, Mera (and whoever else I'm forgetting) are all redheads that the artists put in green I'd really like to see future red-headed characters in a different colour.
Posted by Set on :
Good point. Even Spider-Girl's in a green tunic last I saw (although she's no longer a redhead, go figure.)
Gold goes well with red, and a dark blue outfit against flowing red hair might be neat. Alan Davis managed to make Looker pretty distinctive with the mass of red hair and purple leotard. (I don't recall, but I think Marvel's Medusa is also usually wearing purple...)
Posted by Candle on :
Medusa's royalty, so she wears purple one way or the other, and she never looked good in green for some reason.
I'd go with gold, I think.
I love the idea of animated creature chairs and mops and things running around Lallor. I remember a fairy tale when I was a kid of a girl who learned how to clean up after herself when her fairygodmother animated all of the things in her cottage to talk to the kid and hit her over the head, etc. until she did the chores.
Also, they might run around breeding all sorts of stranges things! The dish really COULD run away with the spoon!
Posted by jimgallagher on :
In a word, No. Never liked her.
Posted by Mattropolis on :
I would make her younger than the others if she joined in this universe, about the age that the founders were when they started the team.
Considering what happened with Pol, Cos would eb against her joining and would send her on BS missions to keep her safe.
Until one of those missions, leads her right to the Fatal Five. She holds her own until the rest of the Legion arrives.
Posted by KryptonKid on :
If, somehow, the reboot universe survives, Thanot Saugin might become Kinetix 2.
Posted by Mattropolis on :
I would rather start fresh with a Zoe from the retroboot universe.
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