What did you like or not like about them? Or their storylines? Costumes/codenames/hairdos? What do you find to be particularly memorable about the character? Whatever you wish to discuss. Then in about 24 hours, we'll move to another team member.
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As you may guess by my choice of the Perez pic of Wally in the Kid Flash costume, I tend to remember him to the NTT days. By the time I started reading, though, he was a part-timer. Perhaps Kid Flash fans didn't like that, but I like the various characters to have different priorities. I don't remember at the moment how much of his decision was to live his life with school etc. and how much was his trouble with his powers, though.
Specific images I remember: Wally resigning and suggesting Terra for membership. The images (!) Trigon put in his head in the beginning of the Baxter series. KF speeding around the water to the Tower with Frances magnetically levitating/propelling herself beside him. The Kid Flash ring being found in the Tower rubble.
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I've always loved Kid Flash. Wally's cockiness/insecurity made him one of the most realistic of all DC's characters to me. Already world famous and an experienced crime fighter Wally knew all about the bad guys but consistantly blundered with his interpersonal relationships. It really touched me that here was one of the most powerful guys in the world and he didn't know how to talk to girls without acting like a macho jerk. He worshiped his Uncle Barry and set himself a nearly impossible standard to live up to after Barry passed away...then berated himself for failing to live up to those standards. A very normal human thing to do, it almost makes him a real human being, not just paper and ink but a real live striving and suffering person. I thought it was very cool.
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I remember Kid Flash from the NTT days pretty much as well.
He always seemed to be the most angsty member/part-time member/nonmember to me. Maybe it was because of his absolutely and completely doomed romance with Raven (has there EVER been a more doomed relationship in comics?) and of course his worries over his super-speed causing him health problems. While I found him to be a bit whiny at times, I also found him to be maybe the most real of the kids at the time. (While Donna was very real to me too, she lived much more of a charmed life than Wally.)
My biggest memory of Kid Flash is the Trigon-Dark Raven-induced vision. His was the best and creepiest of all of them, IMHO.
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It's great! He's fulfilled the promise of the 'teen sidekick' by stepping into his mentors shoes (boots in this case) and making the job his own. Wally's story has a feel of natural progression to it, we've watched him grow from his very young teen years into the role of one of the big guns of the JLA. He's the Flash and nobody doubts it. That's cool. The way it's been done he doesn't take anything away from his predecessors either, rather his work as the scarlet speedster enhances the reputation of the legendary clan.
-maybe that's Waid's fault for the way he tied all those loose ends together to make DC's super speedsters all part of some kind of collective but that's ok, it works for me-
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As a kid, who wouldn't want to be Wally West -- super-speed, that dynamic, yellow-and-red costume, a full head of hair (sigh)!
Wally as a personality didn't really register with me until early in the Wolfman/Perez run. He was the self-described conservative kid from the Midwest who didn't trust Redstar (or whatever his name was) because he was Russian. Being a kid from the Midwest, I resented the implication that I should (in Wolfman's eyes?) be both conservative and prejudiced. But I later realized that Wolfman was doing something unique with Wally (as well as the other Titans): He was giving him a fully rounded personality, including some traits that I wouldn't necessarily agree with. It was part of Wally's growth from teenager who thought he had a handle on everything to an adult who would take on the mantle of The Flash.
Even so, Wally was one of the essential Titans -- one of the three, along with Robin and Wonder Girl, who formed the core of the group. But, as with any real teenaged group of friends, they had to grow up, and this was represented, in part, by Wally leaving the team. Of course, he didn't stay away forever. But when he returned to TITANS as The Flash, he didn't quite fit in. He had outgrown the Titans, it seems, when he joined the JLA. Wally realized this and left the Titans again, opening the door for Jesse Quick to grow as the Titans' speedster: a generous and fitting gesture that further showed his growth from the Commie-hating Midwestern kid.
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I liked Kory pretty much, and was in fact a fan of the OMEGA MEN series, set in her galaxy.
Lots of fans cried foul when Starfire blasted Deathstroke's wife to dust during Devin Grayson's run (her throat had been slit and her immortal blood was almost all drained yet still she lived and was quite likely in agony), but Starfire's words in her own defense moved me: "I know what it's like to be a slave!" To Starfire it was a mercy killing.
Johns hasn't really focused on her yet, but her few scenes have been enjoyable.
It was hysterical when she showed up with tinfoil on her head during Farber's massively-bad run. Jeebus, those were some BAD comics.
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I like the idea of her having a garden from Tamaran at the Tower. Was that a Johns addition or did someone else use it in a previous series?
Kory is okay but not my favorite Titan of old. I never did really care for her and Dick being involved. It always seemed forced to me. Like they had to have a couple in the group.
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A genuinely nice person (despite one of the worst childhoods ever) AND a ruthless warrior.
Did Donna ever win one of their sparring matches?
Okay, her original outfit is consistent with sun-worshipping, skin-baring Tamaran. Lucky for the Earth boys, there. I didn't dislike it or think it was the worst thing, but it did look uncomfortable.
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Starfire, I thought, was created to be one of those hot babes to stir adolescent boys' (and girls') fantasies. Even though I was an adolescent when she first appeared, I was initially annoyed at the overt sexism in such a character: She was a cutie with long, curly hair and an almost nothing costume. Perez might as well have tatooed "Playmate of the Year" on her forearm.
But, as with Wally, Wolfman developed Kory's personality along some very different and interesting lines. A born warrior and former slave, Kory was willing to kill, something that didn't sit well with her Titans friends, and particularly not with her boyfriend, Dick. As a princess, she had a much broader perspective on things than her teammates did. The best Kory stories, in my opinion, were the ones that brought that conflict into the open -- not that Kory was right and they were wrong or vice versa, but because each was right in their own way.
I do wish she and Dick could have remained a couple. They were both very strong-willed personalities who needed each other. But because Dick Grayson is a DC icon, he can't be tied permanently to anyone. Too bad.
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