I refuse to like something because I as a gay man am supposed to like it (Please make a note of it, Lady Gaga's song "Born this Way").
We'll see how this goes... I hope I don't end up hating this guy...
Posted by Dev - Em on :
I just thought it was interesting.
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
Well, at least he's not a satire of Superman or Batman.
I'm surprised the Justice League doesn't consist of Supes, Bats, Captain Atom, Blue Beetle (or The Question, I guess), Captain Marvel, Spysmasher, Apollo and Midnighter.
Posted by Dr. Tot Rocket on :
quote:Originally posted by Dev - Em: I just thought it was interesting.
Oh it is that, for sure. This could either be really cool or really not cool... we shall soon see which it is to be!
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Flamboyance is hard to pull off in fictional characters. I remain cautiously optimistic.
Posted by old-sk00l MLLASH on :
I love Wiccan and Hulkling in Young Avengers just because they are portrayed as so ordinary.
Lobdell dropped the ball with Starfire... fingers crossed for this guy.
Posted by Quislet, Esq on :
Just so long as he doesn't turn out like this:
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Uh oh. I need to go read me some more Gravity Kid/Power Boy or Wiccan/Hulkling scenes to get that image out of my mind...
Posted by LASHbrain on :
quote:Originally posted by Quislet, Esq: Just so long as he doesn't turn out like this:
I just threw up a little in my mouth...
Posted by LASHbrain on :
YOU ARE EXTRANNY!!!!!
Posted by LASHbrain on :
HE IS KID EXTRANO!!!!!!
Posted by LASHbrain on :
Which boy will Bunker try to mack on first?
If it was me, I'd pick Roy Harper, but he's too busy banging Starfire these days over in RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS to re-explore what he did to pay for all that China cat...
Posted by Power Boy on :
I actually liked Extrano when I was a kid ....
talk about *oppression*, that's how starved I was for gay characters.
I still love Northstar despite how hard they have tried to mess him up. He's been a lot of not so great gay stereotypes ... women hating, criminal, and elf ... an elf yes, and i think was dying of AIDS, and then the elves carried him off to elf land.
he's like the Donna Troy of Marvel!
Now he's still cranky but, he has a bf, and teaches part time at Xavier's. (this seems more like the stereotype that i fit ... )
I think it's really hard to do a gay character who just *happens* to fit a stereotype well. Glee manages to, and deal with those characters pretty well but, they have so many gay people and writers etc. associated with that series.
I still think it's kinda soon to be depicting gays that fulfill stereotypes and have it be obvious they're not being made fun of.
... just my 2 cents.
Posted by LASHbrain on :
The best gay boys in comics, ever:
Posted by Power Boy on :
awwwwwww
Posted by LASHbrain on :
Replace "Teddy" with "Lash" and the above describes me perfectly Posted by NoLongerLegion on :
quote:Originally posted by LASHbrain:
I'm about as nelly as they come and even I find what is known about this character so far to be offensive. Glad I am not a Titans fan!
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
quote:Originally posted by LASHbrain: The best gay boys in comics, ever:
awwwwwwwww.
Now THAT is gay done right.
And they didn't even include gratuitous shirtless scenes!
Posted by LASHbrain on :
YOUNG AVENGERS should have been published back when I was a kid. Wiccan and Hulkling have always been portrayed as a normal couple-- I do admit to being surprised when they did this scene of them going to bed together, but as you said, there was nothing at all gratuitious about it.
I wish YA wasn't published so sporadically, but IMO it is the best comic being published and is always worth the wait.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Exactly. That scene above could have used a guy and a girl, or two girls, and nothing would change. Plus, there is no reason for anyone to be outraged by it.
This (plus the Power Boy-Gravity Kid relationship) are just wonderful for showing people that a homosexual relationship can be just as "normal" and HAPPY as any hetero one.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Hearing Bunker’s backstory gave me something to think about because it was different and upbeat. But, my brother’s gay, and he was turned off by the idea. “Why do we HAVE to have stereotypes?” Then I asked how he would’ve felt if there was a character who was totally flamboyant but heterosexual. Response was the same. So I ask why does he have to be a flamboyant gay teen? Why can’t he just be gay? The only way the writers are going to really break boundaries is by not making a big deal about race, gender, religion, or orientation. I mean, it’s not like any of it should matter in the long run. The staff’s heart is in the right place, but, this just feels off to me.
Posted by lil'rhino on :
Wait a minute, he's a flamboyant, gay, latino, teen super hero? That describes me 30 years ago!!
Posted by Dev - Em on :
quote:Originally posted by lil'rhino: Wait a minute, he's a flamboyant, gay, latino, teen super hero? That describes me 30 years ago!!
Wait a minute...you're latino? Posted by NoLongerLegion on :
quote:Originally posted by Dev - Em:
quote:Originally posted by lil'rhino: Wait a minute, he's a flamboyant, gay, latino, teen super hero? That describes me 30 years ago!!
Wait a minute...you're latino?
He was thirty years ago.... Then he was rebooted.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
10 years ago, I was an African-American woman with one arm.
Dang those reboots!
Posted by cleome45 on :
quote:Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: Hearing Bunker’s backstory gave me something to think about because it was different and upbeat. But, my brother’s gay, and he was turned off by the idea. “Why do we HAVE to have stereotypes?” Then I asked how he would’ve felt if there was a character who was totally flamboyant but heterosexual. Response was the same. So I ask why does he have to be a flamboyant gay teen? Why can’t he just be gay? The only way the writers are going to really break boundaries is by not making a big deal about race, gender, religion, or orientation. I mean, it’s not like any of it should matter in the long run. The staff’s heart is in the right place, but, this just feels off to me.
Well, I'm not gay myself, but just to offer an opinion or two:
Plenty of superheroes that we are expected to accept as straight are pretty damn flamboyant.
I don't think the problem is that a gay dude is flamboyant. The problem is that if he's the only gay dude in continuity, he's expected to sum up the behaviors and attitudes of every gay reader/fan there is. And that's a problem, because obviously all LGBT folks don't behave the same way.
So the obvious solution is for there to be more than one gay protagonist in continuity, and for them not to all have interchangeable powers, origins, appearances, and mannerisms.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
quote:Originally posted by cleome45: So the obvious solution is for there to be more than one gay protagonist in continuity, and for them not to all have interchangeable powers, origins, appearances, and mannerisms.
Well said, cleome! Here's to more WELL-WRITTEN gay superheroes!
Posted by cleome45 on :
quote:Originally posted by NoLongerLegion:
quote:Originally posted by LASHbrain:
I'm about as nelly as they come and even I find what is known about this character so far to be offensive. Glad I am not a Titans fan!
scans_daily posted some pages if you're interested. The reaction over there seems pretty positive.
Posted by cleome45 on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac:
quote:Originally posted by cleome45: So the obvious solution is for there to be more than one gay protagonist in continuity, and for them not to all have interchangeable powers, origins, appearances, and mannerisms.
Well said, cleome! Here's to more WELL-WRITTEN gay superheroes!
Yep.
And to Power Boy/Gravity Kid not being used as cannon fodder in some future Big Event. :/
(And I still want to see more Ayla/Vi. I'm very old school that way. Posted by NoLongerLegion on :
quote:Originally posted by cleome45: And to Power Boy/Gravity Kid not being used as cannon fodder in some future Big Event. :/
Indeed. I have to say I fear for their lives when 'Legend of the final infinite identity crisis of the blackest millenium day' comes out.
Oh, by the way, Thanks for the link. The other pages make the character somewhat less offensive than the one posted here. Somewhat.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
I agree, he hardly seems over the top here. (And I love how apparently he's strong enough to almost squish Tim in a hug).
Posted by lil'rhino on :
Read the new issue and I J'ADORE the new, gay, latino Teen Titan!!
Posted by LASHbrain on :
M.H.S.W!
Posted by lil'rhino on :
quote:Originally posted by evil MLLASH tot: M.H.S.W!
Oh, Lulzy. You're a national treasure!
Posted by Thriftshop Debutante on :
I got it after I ruled out Mount Holyoke Social Worker.
Posted by Anita Cocktail on :
I find this gay Titan fella to be simply wonderful.
Posted by cleome45 on :
He reminds me of the cartoon version of Starfire. (That's not a criticism.) They need to team up!
Posted by MLLASH's *glare* on :
OK after *finally* reading TT 3 and 4, I must say BUNKER seems quite j'adorable. When he hugged Robin, it seemed so genuine... and I gazed at that butt-shot of him staring at Skitter's cocoon for a full 2 minutes!
DEFINITELY M.H.S.W!
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Bunker's gotta be the only Titan to genuinely have no emotional baggage.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
What does MHSW stand for?
Bunker befriending Solstice was really cute.
Love the lack of emo baggage!
Posted by Future on :
I like Bunker a lot! I like both the new kids, actually. Whoever thought I'd see the day? Usually I'd be cantankerous about all the "missed Titans" they could have put in instead.
I really love his dynamic with pretty much everybody. Let's find him a man next!
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
*raises hand
Er, to help find Bunker a man, I mean!
Posted by Anita Cocktail on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: What does MHSW stand for?
I'll give you the first 2, dearest:
Must Have
I'll let you figure out the last 2!
Posted by Set on :
Must Have... Something Wet? Something Wild? Slippery Wicket? Salacious Wit? Saucily Winsome?
Posted by Calm Yo Tits on :
He gay!
Posted by KryptonKid on :
Urban dictionary doesn't list MHSW.
Posted by MLLASH's back on :
After reading several issues of TEEN TITANS last night I still MHSW Bunker!!!
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