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Added reference to Validus in #9.
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Added the erasure of the Fatal Five from history.

Honestly, I can't imagine any change to history short of getting rid of Superboy (or making a fundamental change to the premise) that would screw up history more than this. Before this, the biggest change for the New 52 was having new costumes in the Adventure era.

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Yeah, retconning the five out of existence is just plain bad decision making.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ken Arromdee:

Changes to other Legion versions (non-retcon, retcon, or mistake)

L3W: Current Earth Brainiac 5 transforms threeboot Lightning Lad's body into a Garth body.

L3W: Shikari returns to her Legion, fixes dangler from the start of the Threeboot. Misspelled as "Shakari".

Great work, Ken. It's amazing how much detail you put into this. Just a few corrections - Threeboot Element Lad was also killed by Superboy-Prime during this story.

It was Postboot Live Wire's body that was transformed into a Garth body.

And Shikari had been shown returning to her Legion in Infinite Crisis 6. Inexplicably, they were shown on Earth-247, which was apparently the Postboot Legion's Earth. The assumption is they were lost AGAIN in the timestream/void after that.

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Intentional retcon (during V6)
Adventure #516: The Legion tried to get Superman, not Superboy; getting Superboy was a mistake (revealed to be intentional on Brainy's part in #519). It occurs to me that this makes sense because Superboy isn't a superhero in the present, so he's not in the history books and the Legion and Brande wouldn't intentionally recruit him.

- re this part, would this also mean that the current Legion never had a maximum age limit for new members?

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^^It's an interesting problem.

Once you take out Superman's career as Superboy, you lose the whole "Hey, Superman started as a teen, so we can be super-heroes, too!" aspect of the Legion's origin. It makes more sense for them to be inspired by the Teen Titans or someone at that point, but then why go back and recruit Kal-El rather than, say, Kon-El?

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Added the above corrections and of course Timber Wolf getting a new origin.
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As a historian its driving me nuts that I can't find the Facebook posts by Levitz regarding continuity... Did anyone save the text, and if so could you post it?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ken Arromdee:
[QB] Paul has said (on Facebook) that this timeline is not in continuity.[/COLOR] This particularly means it's not evidence for Conspiracy happening, or Shadow Lass marrying and divorcing, along with some other items like the Legion being inspired by Superboy (not true in current continuity) and the Great Darkness happening before Yera was disguised as Violet.

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http://www.legionworld.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000863
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Added Legion #0 changes.

Question: Is Phantom Girl having a crush on Brainiac 5 anywhere in the original series? (I recall that Shadow Lass did.)

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I keep hoping that one day I'll open up an issue of, say, Action Comics and Daily Star editor Clark Kent will be sitting up in bed telling his wife Lois that he just had the weirdest dream that started with the skies turning red...

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Oooh thanks for the link! Are there more such sources, as you note in your list, from Facebook on here somewhere? I want to add those notes and keep updating my chronology (http://www.cosmicteams.com/legion/legion1/intro.html)

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Mykey3000: Reading your chronology:
-- I checked All-New Collector's Edition C-55. The comic does *not* list the Legionnaires in order of joining. It lists the founders as joining first, and Triplicate Girl and Phantom Girl as next to join--and then for subsequent members it doesn't say they joined "next" or otherwise indicate that they are being listed in order. It shows Superboy and Supergirl in the same panel, and I am unaware that under any theory of joining they are considered to have joined at the same time.
-- I disagree with the idea that the pocket universe happened. There is no evidence for this--and you yourself go on to list all the things that happened because of it that are obviously not part of current continuity. We haven't even seen a Superboy statue in the dead Legionnaires. The only evidence, as far as I know, that the pocket universe story happened is that Paul Levitz has said, outside the comic, that Mon-El and Shadow Lass are divorced. Everything else points to it having not happened. (Also, the original Emerald Empress is still dead, contrary to what you claim, although I wouldn't say that is directly a result of Conspiracy.)

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Hi, Ken,

I'm struggling with the DCnU chronology but am starting to separate continuity again. Sometimes I choose to wait things out before putting my time into writing/editing.

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I basically say that Post Flashpoint LSH started when Paul took over because 1) he mentions it in his first comic 2) the history is way different from the orignal run. ie Legion: Secret Origin.

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