quote:Originally posted by Kent: my least favorite was the visit to Swamp Thing's blue world. Alan Moore did that better, and in the context of the whole series, it was one Solomon Grundy appearance too many for me.
Wow. That is amazing. The blue world is my least favorite segment, too.
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Yeah, and he did handle it better for years. She just wouldn't grow up until it was too late for them.
Actually a rather real life couple with these two. Things should have worked out, but didn't...things happen sometimes that we can't, or in Dreamy's case, choose not to control. Could Thom have taken the high road...yeah, but he finally just had enough of her games.
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What you say is true, Dev. I just find it very easy to turn a blind eye to Nura's faults. She seemed to me like deep down, underneath all the frivolity, she was very lonely and needy. Could she have taken responsibility for her behavior? Sure, but then she wouldn't be Nura.
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As much as I love Nura, she did take Thom for granted one time too many. I know that she loved him, but I think deep down she didn't know how to be with him.
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I thought this was a great story! It's been awhile since I've read it but I remember loving it at the time. It was a great chance to see Star Boy & Umbra removed from the rest of the Legion and then have connections to Starman, Mikaal and the Shade.
I loved the space-arc in Starman in a big way. Remember just loving it at the time and thought it just kept getting stronger as it went. The Moore blue planet was 'okay'; the Jor-El stuff was better and then things got really good after that.
I also really liked the story in the back of Space-Cabbie's cab with Space Ranger, Starfire, Ultraa, etc.
This arc made me a fan of Prince Gavyn as well.
As for preboot Thom, I've always blamed Nura for their break-up. She had it coming, for taking him for granted far too often. Still, I love Nura and actually like her more than Thom--she's a favorite. But you can't be that needed and self-centered and not suffer the consequences. Just another reason why she was such a strong, complex character.
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quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: I thought this was a great story! It's been awhile since I've read it but I remember loving it at the time. It was a great chance to see Star Boy & Umbra removed from the rest of the Legion and then have connections to Starman, Mikaal and the Shade.
I loved the space-arc in Starman in a big way. Remember just loving it at the time and thought it just kept getting stronger as it went. The Moore blue planet was 'okay'; the Jor-El stuff was better and then things got really good after that.
I also really liked the story in the back of Space-Cabbie's cab with Space Ranger, Starfire, Ultraa, etc.
This arc made me a fan of Prince Gavyn as well.
The quality of the Jor-El issue makes the mediocrity of Robinson's work on Superman-proper all the more disappointing.
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I'm a huge fan of Starman and really echo a lot of what people are saying! In the series, I think that the space arc was the weakest segment, but of course, there was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that probably had a serious affect on the storytelling, like Tony Harris' departure and then his little tiff with James, Archie Goodwin's death and James not wanting to continue with the book, and then Goyer coming on as a co-plotter. I think that the book really ramps back up after the space stuff ends.
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First of all, Matt, thanks for re-activating this topic and for sharing the behind-the-scenes doings. Even though I have all the floppies, I've been borrowing the Starman Omnibus volumes from the library just to read Robinson's "director's commentaries." I'm sure he'll elaborate on what you just revealed when we reach Omnibus Volume Five.
I think you may enjoy my JLA fanfics, as Mikaal figures heavily in them, and the Shade appears in one of them, and NOT as a villain. You can read them at the threads that I've provided links for in my signature.
I think you and I could have some extremely interesting Starman discussions, because we seem to see the book in completely different ways. And that's GOOD! A work of Starman's ambition and scope SHOULD inspire a variety of interpretations and a spirited discussion!
There's not yet a proper Starman thread in the Dr. Gymll's forum. Would you like to be the one to start it?