Silver Age Lad
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With Legion Lost about to finish, by my estimation there are at least 50 Legionnaires available to be members of a ramped up Legion. How about this for a fighting team?
1. Cosmic Boy 2. Phantom Girl 3. Chameleon Boy 4. Brainiac 5 5. Star Boy 6. Sun Boy 7. Shrinking Violet 8. Ultra Boy 9. Mon-El 10. Element Lad 11. Lightning Lass 12. Dream Girl 13. Shadow Lass 14. Invisible Kid II 15. Polar Boy 16. Chemical Kid 17. Dragonwing 18. Glorith 19. Comet Queen 20. Harmonia
The Lost 21. Timber Wolf 22. Wildfire 23. Tyroc 24. Dawnstar 25. Tellus 26. Chameleon Girl 27. Gates 28. Infectious Lass
Academy 29. Duplicate Girl 30. Bouncing Boy 31. Night Girl 32. Otaki 33. Mwindaji
The Subs 43. Chlorophyll Kid 44. Color Kid 45. Fire Lad 46. Stone Boy 47. Porcupine Pete 48. Rainbow Girl
Not Forgetting 49. Superman 50. Supergirl
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From: Ancient Kingdom of Northumbria, UK | Registered: Aug 2007
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Wow, hadn't realized there were so many warm superpowered bodies in the 31st century now.
That doesn't even include "rejected"/quit Academy students (who could maybe be called upon as reserves?) Nightwind, Lamprey, Crystal Kid, Power Boy and Gravity Kid.
Throw in a resurrected Kinetix and I'm all happy (though I'd want to see new versions of Kid Quantum II and Gear as well, and even Monstress and Shikari!)
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From: Wouldn't you like to know? | Registered: Oct 2003
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Silver Age Lad
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quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Wow, hadn't realized there were so many warm superpowered bodies in the 31st century now.
That doesn't even include "rejected"/quit Academy students (who could maybe be called upon as reserves?) Nightwind, Lamprey, Crystal Kid, Power Boy and Gravity Kid.
Throw in a resurrected Kinetix and I'm all happy (though I'd want to see new versions of Kid Quantum II and Gear as well, and even Monstress and Shikari!)
Plus Laurel Gand, Kent Shakespeare, Celeste McCauley, Kono, Danielle Foccart and the rest would put the number up to 70+
Bring them on
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From: Ancient Kingdom of Northumbria, UK | Registered: Aug 2007
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There's enough potential with the Legion of Super-Heroes concept that the right visionary creators could produce a successful group of LSH books. We've already seen an Espionage Squad, an Academy, Wanderers, just to mention a few that could be developed into rich long-term stories.
Legion Lost, though not my favorite concept, could have been a contender if they had focused on the 7 Legionnaires instead of giving so much storyline to Superboy, Titans, and Ravagers.
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From: Groga | Registered: Aug 2003
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I think Lamprey, Crystal Kid, Gravity Kid, & Power Boy had graduated the Academy
There are also, although not introduced in current continuity, the Heroes of Lallor and the Wanders.
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From: Boston | Registered: Aug 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Legion Tracker: I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There's enough potential with the Legion of Super-Heroes concept that the right visionary creators could produce a successful group of LSH books. We've already seen an Espionage Squad, an Academy, Wanderers, just to mention a few that could be developed into rich long-term stories.
Heck yeah. If DC had jumped on this bandwagon back when Teen Titans and the Legion of Super-Heroes were two of their best selling titles, they could have gone with an Espionage Squad title, an Academy title, a 'core book' and perhaps a deep space 'Wanderers' title.
Instead, Marvel thought of doing that with the X-Men (allowing them to have *dozens* of active X-Men at one time, by splitting them among various X-teams), and DC pretty much sank into being the all-Batman network, because they failed so spectacularly to develop their other properties.
quote: Legion Lost, though not my favorite concept, could have been a contender if they had focused on the 7 Legionnaires instead of giving so much storyline to Superboy, Titans, and Ravagers.
They had tons of potential. 21st century Marzal? What about all that Durlan bio-tech scattered around and serving as origins for other characters? Would earlier visits to the past have fallout (for example, would Iris Jacobs serve as a point of contact for them, rather than 'random dude Timber Wolf bumped into')? Starhaven explicitly already existed by the 21st century, so Dawnstar could have had a storyarc involving the distant past of her homeworld. Same with Gates, who may have his own buggy agenda to meddle with his species history, and end up in a time loop where he saves his people from a disaster he read about as a bugling, and only at the end recognizes himself as the mysterious savior!
Tons of potential, pretty much squandered with this harvest / culling nonsense, IMO.
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I am 200 percent for this idea. Better to know your favorite character is ON the team and will be used at some point-- even if that point may be a year away-- rather than have that character go unseen for 12 years or so.
The increased membership opens up unlimited possibilities.
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That's true about just knowing someone's on the team. Think about how happy many of us were when Gail Simone brought back Infectious Lass and Nightwind for a brief appearance at the end of the post-boot.
There could be many situations in a story for which a seldom-seen member is called on for a specific skill; they wouldn't have to be part of the longer term plot.
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I think what I'd really like to see is a version of the Legion that's been around for something like twenty-five or thirty years, with the Adventure Era cast having moved on to more of an administrative role. The main team itself could be expanded dramatically, and include versions of characters from all of the various versions of the Legion we've seen. Even duplicates where they are significantly different than the original could be included. Prefer split-personality Triad over girl-next-door Triplicate Girl? Just make her another Carggite who joins later. Prefer black Star Boy over old school honky Star Boy? Whose to say Thom Kallor doesn't have a nephew or something who gains similar powers in comic book-y fashion? I dunno. It just seems like it could be done somehow.
From: Liberty City | Registered: Jul 2003
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The secret to the phenomenal success of the X-men lies not in the book's concept itself, but in the way Chris Claremont recrafted the team from a static group that had pretty much proven its inability to sell into an organic, ongoing, constantly changing group of individuals who generally (although not always) worked together as a team. Eventually even characters that had been responsible for the original book's cancellation were allowed to grow into more interesting individuals who could carry their own weight.
DC has seldom allowed its characters to grow so organically. Either they remain the same for years on end or they are radically transformed by some major "event" that entirely redefines them, only to become locked in to the new version just as badly as they had been stuck in their old incarnation.
The Legion's greatest potential has always been that its characters, due to a certain built-in distance from the DC mainstream, could continue to grow, with some long-time members moving into a more administrative role (Rokk) while others remained active members (Jo and Tinya) and even others retired entirely to raise families or whatever (Garth and Imra). New characters, with their own unique backstories, could then step into the spotlight, and, after some off-camera life changes, even stale older characters could return with renewed life (Jeckie).
Unfortunately the 5YG team took it all too far too fast. Rather than allow evolution to follow its course, they jumped five years into the future, established that everything about the entire universe had changed and then went about slowly revealing just what was different now.
Not that this was a bad approach. But despite its good points, the 5YG series had, by instituting too many sudden changes, alienated too many of the group's longtime fans and the creative team found itself playing "can you top this" trying to keep the interest of those who were left. Eventually they crossed an event horizon (blowing up Earth) that made the demise of the series inevitable.
An effort was made to put the team back on track by rebooting the entire franchise, and would have worked if they had maintained the distance from the main DCU that had allowed the original book to become the company's second-best selling title in the first place. Instead, they stranded a good portion of the team in the 20th century for a full year, essentially killing the momentum of the reboot.
Since then, the sheer baggage of having changed directions too many times has doomed every new version to come along since (including the current incarnation).
I now believe that the only hope the Legion has to achieve greatness is for the entire series to be cancelled and written off by TPTB at DC once and for all. The franchise can then be sold to another company who can start with a clean slate and make the Legion the focal point of a 31st-century universe completely unrelated to the DCU (or any other pre-existing universe).
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From: Stuck in the Psychedelic Era | Registered: Jan 2010
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Are there any writers or artists who could cope with doing a group with 50+ members justice within 20 pages a month? Doubtful many would be able to cope, so I guess there would have to be two comics each month or even a giantsize comic to have a chance of accommodating that many. Personally I'd like to see two giantsized issues a month
Oh and I's also love to see the NuDCU's version of Gear, Thunder, both Quantum Kids, Retro and Amp Girl, Babbage, Dragonmage, Danielle Foccart as Computo, and Monstress.
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