quote:Originally posted by He Who Wanders: It makes no sense that a new villain would want to use an old villain's name. But that's comic book logic for you.
Comic books are always reusing names. Nightwing was originally Superman's alias when fighting crime with Jimmy Olsen in the bottle city of Karnak. Jimmy was known as Flamebird, which is now the name of a blonde bombshell tennis player from L.A. who wanted to be a superhero so she could meet Robin because she'd had a crush on him since before she was rewritten, back when she was the niece of Batwoman aka Kathy Kane!
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At least Marvel's heroic Black Knight was related to the villainous Black Knight. And the name "Power Man" was generic enough that Luke Cage probably didn't realize that Erik Josten had it first. A case could even be made that since Dick Grayson knew and admired Superman, he wanted to use one of his cast-off identities (I don't recall if that was the rationale or not).
But for an unrelated villain to appropriate the name of the first Starfinger just makes no sense to me. It would be like someone calling himself Unabomber II.
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quote:Originally posted by He Who Wanders: But for an unrelated villain to appropriate the name of the first Starfinger just makes no sense to me.
And especially to kill the previous villain with the name, just so he could have it.
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I am in the middle in this. Starfinger (both versions) were pretty bad. Like the topic suggests did we really need an attempt at a 2nd or 3rd Starfinger? Luckily many of the loser villains in Legion lore aren't used again.
I think it's cool reusing parts of the mythology as long as it doesn't get too complicated. I rather have a new character reuse a codename than the villain be ressurrected 10 times.
When it comes to the Legion and their vast history...it's fun to use some of the past but ultimately we have learned it can get very complicated...and may not be worth it...especially when it revolves around any "starfinger".
Jorge
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quote:Originally posted by He Who Wanders: A case could even be made that since Dick Grayson knew and admired Superman, he wanted to use one of his cast-off identities (I don't recall if that was the rationale or not).
Actually, Superman told Dick "an old Kryptonian story" about a hero who was known only as Nightwing.
quote: But for an unrelated villain to appropriate the name of the first Starfinger just makes no sense to me. It would be like someone calling himself Unabomber II.
Meh. People are strange that way. Maybe they just couldn't think of one themself, or wanted to be known as all badnass for killing someone to take his name...
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I think each appearance of Starfinger should include an all-new bad guy with the name. Like a run-on joke, with each Starfinger getting harder to beat, although the occasionally crappy one gives for good comedy.
Imagine: Starfinger VII is a major baddie, yet Starfinger VIII is a quick four page beat-down by Timberworlf. Starfinger IX is a girl, Starfinger X is some weird alien creature that actually leads into a major alien invasion a la Earth War...
Why, this joke could go on well into the 22nd Century if the Legion is still being written then!
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Jeepers, Cobie! With ideas like that you may get that co-plotting job on MEL:TS yet!
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Thanks EDE! My brain has been secreting extra creative juices lately!
(However, my spelling remains unaffected. Who knows if I spelt secrete right?! )
I really like that Starfinder idea! Co-plotting MEL:TS would be an honor beyond honors!
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Yeah, it could be a legacy name just like Starman/boy/girl etc. Get James Robinson on the phone, somebody. Let's retcon in a Golden Age Starfinger to get the ball rolling.
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I gotta agree Cobalt Kid that's a great idea! Have Starfinger as a running joke...every few years a new loser shows up and the Legion beat him in a few panels and then make fun of him.
Jorge
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I don't know if the Starfinger name was worth fighting for, but wasn't the idea that the Hanscoms and the Buranes were like two feuding hillbilly tribes from the space Ozarks? They're the Mcoys and the Hatsfields (?) of the stars.
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Yeah, but I think the origins of the feud are with Burrane killing Hanscom. If he hadn't been so gung-ho on the name, there'd be no feud!
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Still, it could only have improved Char Burrane if there'd been some weird alien hillbilly playing "Dueling Space-Banjoes" behind him at all times.
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