quote:Originally posted by Dev - Em: When the whole thing first started to come together...I figured Kalla was using Lon and was going to betray the LMB by the end. This was at the very beginning.
You know, I don't think Kalla was ever using Lon, but at one point, she was definitely going to betray the LMB in some way before it was over. (In fact, at one point I was fairly sure she was going to BLOW UP Earth-4!) But thecharacter herself had other ideas, and she "told" me she was on a path to redemption instead!
Still, the character is also "telling" me that her wicked ways may not be totally behind her. I guess we'll see....
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I know Lon was treading a fine line with her early in their relationship. He loved her, but I think if it came down to it, he would have done what was necessary to save as many people as he could (her included if possible.) If the whole thing were to start now though, he is in a much different place.
We'll see what happens with these two as time goes on. At some point, they took on a life of their own more than any of my other characters.
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I kept expecting Kalla to betray the LMB, which comes across in the almost outright hostility between Cobie and Kalla throughout Book 1. But it was when I started to concoct Lolita's plan to save E4 that I realized there was a perfect opening for Kalla to *not* betray them, and actually help them. And even though Kalla isn't "my" character, it just felt so right that I knew it would happen.
Btw, I always fought for E4's happy ending! I knew that was the way E4 should end.
I remember writing the first post where half the Fellowship meets the Losers for the first time. That was the moment where I knew we could pull this off. It was so surreal to get to that point. I kept thinking Lardy must be flipping out to an even greater degree!
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Created to give me a character to play with among the losers. Had the idea of him being Jon Em from Earth 4. In trying to figure out what I wanted to do with him, I knew I wanted to play on the tech edge I had started with Dev's son in the LMB proper. Then it hit me to make him a Cable like character...but one that actually succeeded in doing what he came back in time to do...thus erasing his reality and leaving him stranded.
Was really glad that Lardy agreed to let me get involved in his playground in regards to Clarks demise. Given my penchant of putting my characters through hell whenever I can, having him send the person he considers his best friend out to his death (against his own father at that) just was too juicy to pass up. Lardy was more than willing to let me leech onto his story beat there.
It also gave me something to do with the Evil Dev Em. Which was fun as hell to play with as well. More on him later.
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quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: I kept expecting Kalla to betray the LMB, which comes across in the almost outright hostility between Cobie and Kalla throughout Book 1. But it was when I started to concoct Lolita's plan to save E4 that I realized there was a perfect opening for Kalla to *not* betray them, and actually help them. And even though Kalla isn't "my" character, it just felt so right that I knew it would happen.
Kalla's a very edgy character, so edgy, in fact, that you can't ever feel too comfortable with her! For those who don't know, Kalla originated in the first novella in this format, Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis. Midway through, Kalla emerged as a red herring for the true identity of the mysterious Bat-Fem character who played a part in the story. I created Kalla for that purpose and to provide a link to what Lardy did behind the scenes of INVASION! to help end that conflict. Kalla turned out to be a terrorist/zealot who was a major threat at the end of that story. She's directly responsible for the death of the first Bat-Fem and for the deaths of many Legion World citizens who were collateral damage in the conflict.
She survived the conflict and would evolve into a major LMBverse character spanning important roles in Omnia, "Smoke & Mirrors" (a Onevision of mine), BBD and LotO (plus a pretty big cameo in another Onevision of mine, "The Covenant").
I think I was always gonna reuse Kalla after Omnia, but it was Cobie's enthusiasm for the character that made it happen for me sooner, I think. (He even featured her in a scene in one of his Onevisions in a jailbreak sequence, which was her first post-Omnia appearance! Was it "Psionic Spear" or "Horn of Undoing", Des?)
quote:Btw, I always fought for E4's happy ending! I knew that was the way E4 should end.
Yeah, that was definitely the right call in hindsight. We ended up having Daroon and Zerox to torture instead!
quote:I remember writing the first post where half the Fellowship meets the Losers for the first time. That was the moment where I knew we could pull this off. It was so surreal to get to that point. I kept thinking Lardy must be flipping out to an even greater degree!
It WAS surreal! Des and I had cooked up the E4 idea during Omnia, and it took YEARS to pay off, but it was SOOOO damn worth the wait!
Confession: The E4 sequence is my favorite part of LotO by far!
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I really was super enthusiastic about Kalla after Omnia! As I've told Lardy, it was her description of wearing her wedding dress during the final battle that caused her to click into place for me. I couldn't wait to show her in the jailbreak I planned in my onevision "Horn of Undoing" soon after, encouraging Lardy to use her again so I could free her.
What's interesting is that for a few years I was pretty burned out on LMB stories. I think I just overdid it. But when we started really cooking again in 2011, Lardy has the Hot Chick character ready to go, and he revealed to me he was thinking of several people she could be, and among them was Kalla. I just knew he was on to something special.
Kalla and Lon's romance and characterization, because of how natural and unexpected it was, is a high point for LMB stories. It makes me optimistic we can have more relationships sprout up in the next round of stories .
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I threw out the first volley that lead to Lon/Kalla without discussing anything with Dev. I just started having her flirt with him in BBD, and he had Lon reciprocate! I think it was a point where she was giving him a lift with her flight powers that it started. It really seemed a natural in hindsight.
When I decided to make Hot Chick turn out to be Kalla, I didn't know where it would go. I think I played with her possibly continuing the kind of sadistic/sexual/oneupsmanship/mutual self-loathing thing she'd had with Lardy, but I'm glad I didn't go there! Why? 1) Being in a relationship with your own alt isn't as fun as it sounds! 2) It left the door open to the great triangle with Dev and Tempest. 3) Lon/Kalla!
BTW, now that Lardy/Tempest ended tragically in LotO, Lardy's lookin' fer love, again! [hint, hint]
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Gonna post and read more later, but just some things off the top of my head -
This was an awesome story and I'm so thrilled Cobie got me involved (thanks much!!) I agree, it was major awesome timing when you messaged me as I think IB was just about to be introed into the story - or had just been. I remember Book 1 was reaching its climax, and I told myself I'd read through it before posting anything so I wouldn't hurt the flow. It was awesome and I remember eing unable to pull myself away from the PC while reading it. Finally got myself involved in Book 2.
I really enjoyed introducing Blaze. We'd been seeing each other by the time Book 1 was ending, and I started writing him in in snippets in Book 2 but couldn't involve him until IB got back to WW. I really liked Book 3 because IB was able to spin off and do his own thing in the WW arena. My Book 2 posts were mainly to add flavor, but IB was limited to mostly one-on-one combat roles. Glad Cobie suggested letting IB take a bigger role!
And I really enjoyed collaborating with Dev over the Angdar/Kinetix relationship. Zoe has always been a great character, and bringing her into the LMB was a lot of fun. Then, in one post I had IB divert Zoe to Angdar because Blaze was getting jealous... and bam! Both Zoe and Angdar benefited a lot from their "relationship".
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I really enjoyed how Blaze / IB added a sense of romance, melodrama and humor to Book 3. It gave a great human element to anchor the characters in light of the very grandiose scenario(s) they were in!
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quote:Originally posted by Lard Lad: I threw out the first volley that lead to Lon/Kalla without discussing anything with Dev. I just started having her flirt with him in BBD, and he had Lon reciprocate! I think it was a point where she was giving him a lift with her flight powers that it started. It really seemed a natural in hindsight.
When I decided to make Hot Chick turn out to be Kalla, I didn't know where it would go. I think I played with her possibly continuing the kind of sadistic/sexual/oneupsmanship/mutual self-loathing thing she'd had with Lardy, but I'm glad I didn't go there! Why? 1) Being in a relationship with your own alt isn't as fun as it sounds! 2) It left the door open to the great triangle with Dev and Tempest. 3) Lon/Kalla!
BTW, now that Lardy/Tempest ended tragically in LotO, Lardy's lookin' fer love, again! [hint, hint]
Yep. It was her giving him a lift and calling him Fuzzy. Seemed like the kind of gal Lon would like (hot woman in a bikini.) Plus, looking back, I think he knew right away who it was and decided to do what he could to keep an eye on her.
I had no idea what would eventually become of their relationship...hell, I have no idea where they are going to end up, but I guarantee it'll be one hell of a ride getting there with those two. Will he keep her grounded, or will she push him towards an even darker edge.
I have plans for him, but he keeps doing things differently than I thought he would.
Next up will be the story behind Kar Em.
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First, I gotta say that this was an IMMENSELY enjoyable experience. Everyone had great synergy while we were bouncing ideas off each other, and I love how we took things and ran with them - such as Angdar/Kinetix, IB being the sort of "little brother" of the group, and the insertion of tons and tons of characters into the plot. Another example was Peebz inserting the Drinking Buddies, and us having the LMB leaders on Weber's World be wary of their battle lust.
Re bringing in the entire LMB, I just got to thinking that:
a) there are a whole bunch of characters in the rich LMB history, as evidenced by Cobie's History of the LMB
b) this is such an epic large-scale battle
so... I just threw everyone I could in, after checking with Cobie and Lardy on the statuses of some of these characters. Some past fics, like some Exnihil did, were a good source for the powers of some of them. For example, XBen's ability to teleport small things and Crymsun's ability to turn things red. And it was fun combining some of their powers, like Vee's ability to shrink things added to Xben's teleportation. Or using Crymsun to power up Raging Bull.
quote:Originally posted by Power Boy: and Peebs grew up, becoming less of a wish fulfillment character and an actor in the story. I always imagined him as a back burner, big watch dog type of supporting character.
and IB really brought the entire LMB into the story. So glad he came back for the LOTO!
I get the feeling that his story his coming still.
Funny, but I always thought the Power boy character, being a New God, would be a somewhat serious type who loved battle. The character really did mature in LOTO though...
and thanks As i said in an earlier post, the LMB just has so many outrageous and fun characters - some of my favorite posts were ones where lesser-used ones stole the scene, like rickshaw shooting a zombie in the head, Anita Cocktail and Calm Yo Tits beating up some bugs, the return/involvement of Goon Boy, any scene with Satan Claws Cramer, Chips Ahoy Boy teaming up with Cookie Monstress, Awkward Pause Boy and Quislet making some politicians shut up... Aw man
And yeah, IB and Blaze's stories are far from over. In the past, IB has always been a semi-reluctant hero, afraid to really grow into his full potential. His losing his earring in Book 2 (or was it Book 3?) was a major turning point for him. That's why IB went berserk when he thought Blaze died; Blaze is his anchor. Blaze is the only one IB really feels "gets" him totally, and vice versa. And they have a lot more to learn about their powers and about each other...
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Re Earth-4, I loved it. You could sense how affected the Losers/SMB were by all that had happened. They were just hanging on to hope... I cheered when the evil Rockhopper and company got beaten.
quote:Originally posted by Power Boy: and Peebs grew up, becoming less of a wish fulfillment character and an actor in the story. I always imagined him as a back burner, big watch dog type of supporting character.
and IB really brought the entire LMB into the story. So glad he came back for the LOTO!
I get the feeling that his story his coming still.
Funny, but I always thought the Power boy character, being a New God, would be a somewhat serious type who loved battle. The character really did mature in LOTO though...
I imagined his creation as anything but serious ... I thought he was a guy who had seen it all, since he'd been around for hundreds of years ... so he didn't take much seriously ... and he was content just to be around these amusing and exciting humans, and let them do what they wanted.
Anyway, I imagined him as pretty hedonistic. rather than serious. Making him fun to write since he was impulsive ... however ... hundreds of years of experiences and smarts came out ... over the course of the LOTO (and maybe Power Boy IS a serious person ... but he was certainly on vacation for a long time.)
anyway, I think during his term as leader he should be able to somehow reach a mature compromise between cold distance and hedonistic aloofness that allows him to be more human, flexible yet serious. We will see if it happens during his Rimbor trip.
I suppose his sense of humor has always been biting or dark. rather than jovial.
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Kar Em. I created him because as I was fleshing out who Lon was, and where he came from, irt occurred to me that I never had really touched on Dev Em's parents much...if at all.
I figured that his mom was evil for whatever reason, and that his dad was an old Military type. This gave me the opportunity to have someone that could have taught Lon a lot of what he knows, and give Dev a reason for his own espionage background.
He wasn't really meant as anything more than a one off that I could use during the Twovision I did with Sharky explaining their shared history. That whole experience was a blast and Sharky was really great with his support and ideas in fleshing out that Dev's mom and Sharky's 'mom' were sisters. Sisters that competed in genetic engineering, and Shark Lad and Timberwolf were their greatest creations. It also gave us an actual reason for the two of them to be constantly at each others throats. Making the cousins of a sort made their interactions from that point on even more fun.
When Oval started and things started to get moving, I brought Kar into the story when Lardy's kids were in danger. It seemed to me that even as Dev was getting someone (Loser Lad) out to protect them, Ambassador Mirenna Helen would have people she could call on as well Knowing how much Lardy meant to Cobie, she pulled a few strings to get Kar (whom I cleared with Cobie as being an old ally of hers, and eventually Faraway Lad as well) This gave Kar an immediate sense of history within the LMB universe. Faraway was great with taking Kar and using him as an ally of his and they interacted as if they had known each other for years.
My initial intention was to have Kar Em die at some point during the story. Then I decided that having Dev himself die was a more juicy plot point. Giving the grizzled old war veteran feeling that maybe he hadn't done enough for his boys. Between Dev dying and Lon leaving for what was the enemy camp until this battle gave me a lot of ideas for writing.
In the long run, Kar Em gives me more interesting story ideas alive than dead. Not to say that those could not have been achieved if Dev was still alive, but that in and of itself opens up a lot of thoughts in my mind.
Basically, Kar Em, was a character created to fulfill a minor purpose yet became a much more interesting character than I would have ever thought.
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