I'm in the process of rebuilding my Legion Creator Tenure list, not seen since a 1996 usenet post. I'd appreciate your thoughts on additions/deletions/corrections, etc.
What I'm counting on the list as a "Legion book" is posted here.
A final draft of the writers list is done and postedhere.
I'm working on artists and hope to have that up next week. Editors will come some time after that.
I'd post the whole writers list here, but it's long. Still, to whet your appetite, here's the top 10.
WRITERS:
1. PAUL LEVITZ: 162 (TDT C-55 BDC 24 CB 1-4 DCP 13,43,59sc DCS 28 JLA 147,148 KK 1-9 LSH2 281sc,282sc,284-313 LSH2A 1-3 LSH3 1-63 LSH3A 1-4 LSH4 100 LDCG 2 SLSH 225,226,228-231,233,235-237,239,240pl,241-245,246pl,247,250-251sc SO2 8,25 SUB 1 SSHS TLSH 314-319,320-325pl) (NOTE: KK 2-9 pseudonymously with David Michelinie as Barry Jameson.)
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I guess it's no surprise that Levitz comes out on top. It does surprise me that McCraw is next and that Peyer ranks at number four. For some reason, I never think of them as being significant Legion writers.
Well, done, PB. Thanks for sharing your hard work.
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From: The Stasis Zone | Registered: Jul 2003
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I said it'd be a week or so before the artists list was finished, but I went ahead and plowed through with it. It's still a rough draft, but I think it's complete enough for purusal by the Legion of Super-Fact Checkers:
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Heh, now that's a really curious list... Boyd & Moy in the Top 3? I guess artists in the Modern Age are just a little more committed with their runs... Perhaps adding cover artists may be more effective; that'd give old-timers like Swan and Cockrum a few spots above.
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Ironically... both Levitz and Giffen were not listed in the 'Visionnaries of Tommorow'... even though it had some late creators.
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I'm also surprised at how well reboot-era creators did. Especially McCraw and Peyer, who aren't so popular.
Interesting that the top writers stuck with Legion longer than the top artists.
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quote:Originally posted by PenaltyKillah: Ironically... both Levitz and Giffen were not listed in the 'Visionnaries of Tommorow'... even though it had some late creators.
Only creators with memberships (known to us at least ) are listed there. No slights intended by anyone who hasn't joined up with us.
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Of course, Peyer and McCraw had the advantage of two monthly Legion books running during their tenure. That helps to bump up the average.
From: Sumner, ME | Registered: Jul 2003
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Hi Portfolio Boy, Ferro here. While I usually just lurk, I had to send a quick note. A return of the Legion Creator Tenure List!
I do recall promising to send you a paper copy of your original list. My apologies as I moved back to the United-States three years ago and never sent the list. If you still have a need to reference your old list, just send me a message and I will be sure to make this a priority.
Just reviewing the artist list quickly, I wanted to break the three-way tie for spot number 10. Andy Lanning inked the cover and all of the interiors to Legionnaires #81.
Thanks again, Portfolio Boy, these lists are always appreciated!
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All in all, that list is as insightful as the Top Grossing Movies list, inflation unadjusted.
And I sorta knew about the VoT... and Cockrum actually crashed on this pad? Didn't think he'd live long enough for LW.
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Wow, reboot was really that bad! That's why I thought it never ended: they really put out too much "work" during that period. Which makes it even more impressive how high we place Shooter, Cockrum, Grell and Lightle in Legion canon: in fewer issues, so much more quality. But I thought Waid would be higher in the writer's list.
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Hm, McCraw and Peyer, quantity instead of quality as we are saying here... of course they had a better chance to reach high numbers with two books a month. McCraw as a colorist never did another book again, or did he?
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I'm amazed Laroque and DeCarlo aren't on the artists list...it seemed like they were the art team for virtually the entire Baxter run.
It could just be that it seemed to last an enternity because I literally hated what DeCarlo's inks did to poor Greg Laroque's pencils. I always figured Larocque had to be somewhat of a true gentleman because DeCarlo ruined his stuff month after month. To the degree that I'd say the pairing was a career setback for LaRoque. His other work he's shown to defeinitely have a fantasy-esque flair to his work that always kind of reminded me of a sci-fi version of Esteban Maroto...but the result of the pairing with DeCarlo was just ugly art.
Also, if L.E.G.I.O.N. is to be counted then Barry Kitson enters the contest(in fact he might even then claim the top artist spot) and Waid and Giffen both get a bump to their numbers as well.
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I did not include L.E.G.I.O.N. on the list. My reasoning was that the list should count only what seems intended as a "LSH" story. For that reason, I left out L.E.G.I.O.N., all but one issue of Wanderers, all cameo and A/R books, and most minor appearances.
I labored a long time over whether or not to include Phase's appearances in L.E.G.I.O.N. and Star Man's tenure with JSA, because I do count stories featuring individual Legionnaires, but ultimately decided against it.
I am however, very open to debate on what should or should not be included on the list. What do you think?
BTW, DeCarlo is on the list at #8 (41 books worked on). I have Laroque bit further down the list:
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