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At the top of the main forum page this afternoon:
Legion World Recent Visitors: 100
rokk steady, Reep, Greybird, Thriftshop Debutante, Danny Blaine, Eryk Davis Ester, the boy with UltraPowers, Lightning Lad, Nightcrawler, Caleb, and 90 guest(s)
NINETY guests? How are we getting so many visitors that simply don't choose to join? Is this software counting distinct Internet addresses? Does it compare them to the last logged addresses of registered members? Could some of us members end up being counted twice?
Inquiring minds ... well, are merely morbidly curious.
And is this -- as I thought I'd read elsewhere in the UBB help files or some such query here -- a site-traffic count over just the previous half hour?
[ July 24, 2003, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: Greybird ]
From: Starhaven Consulate, City of Angels | Registered: Jul 2003
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I believe it is for just the past half-an-hour as that is when the cache clears out members who have logged out.
Also, the record for visitors, set on July 17, is 120. This is counting unique IP addresses. And before you ask, if a member has more than one IP address, it is listed on his or her membership and will not count as a ghost or guest visitor. We can actually tell who has multiple accounts by their IP address.
[Edit: Forgot to add this. If you are not signed in it will register you as a visitor even though you may be on the same IP address as your account. You will not be shown as on-line unless you actually sign in. Although we can pull up a limited number of the most recent guests with their IP addresses and compare them. Should we want to go through all that work.]
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I think as I understand it (and that doesn't mean much), that everytime you log on or refresh, it displays the number of members and the number of visiters based on hits from distinct IP addresses in the past half an hour.
Maybe some people log out and check the page regularly? I don't know. Or we could just be a popular stop for lurkers.
From: San Diego, CA | Registered: Jul 2003
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And I found it funny you said distinct IP addresses. That's what I originally said but when I edited myself I changed it to unique.
From: Utah | Registered: Jul 2003
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{ I believe it is for just the past half-an-hour as that is when the cache clears out members who have logged out. }
Well, then, one helluva lotta people must be trying, but not buying, so to speak. I have to wonder where they're coming from. And I hope we're not scaring them off! {g}
It's not that this site's existence has been constantly plastered in Legion venues. Frequently, yes, but far from constantly, and certainly not from what traffic I've seen in Yahoo! Groups.
{[...] if a member has more than one IP address, it is listed on his or her membership and will not count as a ghost or guest visitor. We can actually tell who has multiple accounts by their IP address. }
Multiple user IDs, you mean? For most of us, I tend to doubt it. I may have missed a detail, but I thought that each modem at each dial-up point has its own IP address. We non-broadband users aren't sitting at one fixed Net tap, 24/7.
If each unique IP address is listed, my list must be among those that's a mile long. I have to shift, at times, among four different local (and flaky) dial-up access numbers for EarthLink. And I'll bet, by now, I've used at least 20 different modems at each one. That in itself would be eighty IP addresses!
One possibility that came to my mind was that some of those guests are non-human Web "spiders" indexing this site for the search engines. Some almost certainly are. Nothing, though, shows up yet in Google for this site's domain name, after nearly three weeks. So it's taking a while.
[ July 25, 2003, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Greybird ]
From: Starhaven Consulate, City of Angels | Registered: Jul 2003
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Hmmm...I'm not even going to pretend that I know anything about this sort of stuff.
But, I will say that back on the 15th of July I was recreating a thread from the old DCMBs of which you (Greybird), Scott, and I were the only posters. Since I needed one, I picked an IP address from a then recent post of yours, Grey. And just now I checked your IP for the above post and the first two numbers were the same the last two were not. I don't know what it means, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.
From: San Diego, CA | Registered: Jul 2003
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I'm not completely surprised to see a large number of guests. I think that there are prbably a lot of peple who prefer to lurk, rather than interact. I think I lurked on the DC Boards for nearly a year before I finally broke down and registered.
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From: Penthouse atop Levitz Hall, LMBP Plaza, Embassy Row, Legion World | Registered: Jul 2003
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Yah, I think I was a two-year off&on lurker before I registered. I felt like I knew many of you by the time I signed up: how creepy for you is that? LOL
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From: City of Angels | Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Greybird: Multiple user IDs, you mean? For most of us, I tend to doubt it. I may have missed a detail, but I thought that each modem at each dial-up point has its own IP address. We non-broadband users aren't sitting at one fixed Net tap, 24/7.
If each unique IP address is listed, my list must be among those that's a mile long. I have to shift, at times, among four different local (and flaky) dial-up access numbers for EarthLink. And I'll bet, by now, I've used at least 20 different modems at each one. That in itself would be eighty IP addresses!
Well, I said it would take some work if we wanted to do it but there is a handy feature we benefactors can use to see the IP address of each and every post made by every member. And simply comparing those (a lot will be identical in the first two sets of digits on some ISP's) will tell you if you got a multiple ID'er. Not that I'd do that. You can have as many ID's as you want as long as you aren't just registering them to make sure someone else doesn't get a certain name later on or to cause trouble.
quote:Originally posted by Greybird: One possibility that came to my mind was that some of those guests are non-human Web "spiders" indexing this site for the search engines. Some almost certainly are. Nothing, though, shows up yet in Google for this site's domain name, after nearly three weeks. So it's taking a while.
I had noticed we weren't listed in Google yet too. And spiders are definitely something that can be contributing the large amounts of guests but too many of those guests shouldn't be spiders, just a few.
BTW, we are currently at 134 guests with our record now standing at 155 guests at one time at 8:37 PM Mountain time. Maybe we'll see a slew of new members join up this weekend.
From: Utah | Registered: Jul 2003
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That "guest" thing must be some screwy UBB counting/storing method - I just cycled through all the individual boards - for a total of 15 guests (2 at Off-Topic, 1 at Mission Monitor and 12 at The Legion); on the home board, it claimed 62 guests.
There might not even be 15, since I saw my own and some other names counted on several boards, due to the refreshing time.
This happened at RKMB as well, so I suspect it's a UBB glitch.
quote:Originally posted by Fat Cramer: That "guest" thing must be some screwy UBB counting/storing method - I just cycled through all the individual boards - for a total of 15 guests (2 at Off-Topic, 1 at Mission Monitor and 12 at The Legion); on the home board, it claimed 62 guests.
There might not even be 15, since I saw my own and some other names counted on several boards, due to the refreshing time.
This happened at RKMB as well, so I suspect it's a UBB glitch.
Actually, I suspect it counts those people who visited THAT page only. So if there's 50 more guests on the board page than on the boards in total, 50 people (or at least 50 IP addresses) aren't progressing beyond the list of boards.
And I've submitted legionworld.net to Google now, although I have no idea how long it'll take to actually get through. They say,...
quote:Your URL (http://www.legionworld.net) has been successfully added to our list of URLs to crawl.
Please note that we do not add all submitted URLs to our index, and we cannot make any predictions or guarantees about when or if they will appear.
...so who knows when/if the spiders will start crawling all over the board.
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