In your final list, you have Flamebird listed twice.
As far as Raven goes, I hold out for the Wolfman/Perez characterization. (the same can be said for Jericho) Everything after seems to just take the character away fromwhat is core to the character. Mind you, I like the animated Raven, but only in the animated series.
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Thanks, Quis. I edited the list to note that the 2nd listing of Flamebird (plus Miss Martian, Blue Beetle, Golden Eagle and animated Beast Boy) is when they were FIRST eliminated.
I have to agree that Wolfman-Perez remains the best, though there are some works from them that chip away at said "good" characterization. For example, the recently-released "Games" shows Jericho with about 8 simultaneous girlfriends, and it is hinted that both Jericho and each of the girls consider these romantic rather than platonic relationships. My issue isn't that Jericho has romantic relationships with women, it's that he would knowingly have 8 simultaneous ones.
So... would anyone be up for a JLA Idol version soon?
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and yay KOLE! She was my favorite going in, with maybe Donna Troy as well, but Flamebird stole my heart and my votes.
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quote:Originally posted by Power Boy: and yay KOLE! She was my favorite going in, with maybe Donna Troy as well, but Flamebird stole my heart and my votes.
How unfaithful of you!
JLA Idol coming up within the next couple weeks
Thanks guys, I had a lot of fun with this one.
Besides JLA, which other teams would you like to see?
I'm thinking JSA after JLA, but that's it for DC teams... as for Marvel teams, only X-Men and Avengers, IF ever. But since I'm not a big Marvel fan I'm not really that excited on doing any games for Marvel teams.
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JSA after JLA could be fun, Ibby! Hard to think of any other DC teams besides the ones we've done and those two The Marvel ones you mention could be fun, too. But if the enthusiasm isn't there, well, I know I don't have the time and energy to run one of these thangs!
Even though, none of my faves in Titans Idol made it all the way, I had a lotta fun! I've never even read a Kole story other than her quick death in Crisis, but I'm a sucker for short-lived heroes. When she made it so far, I was happy to support her!
I sure hope to read Kole's appearances eventually, along with most of the Wolfman/Perez run that I've never had the privelege to experience thus far.....
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The thing with Kole is that she's popular *despite* herself. She didn't get a lot of characterization, and her origin story was crazier than Donna Troy's, in that, for all that Donna had a convoluted mess of contradictory origins, Kole's origin story was just bizarre, with a dash of contrived, and, IMO, best forgotten.
Her powers had a great visual, and she came across as a really nice person, with a hint of an edge that we never got to see explored.
I'd love her for her powers alone, although the only other lady 'crystal-spinner' I know of in comics, Krystalin, of the X-Men 2099, was a vastly more interesting character (who, granted, had entire issues devoted to fleshing out her characterization and backstory, was a more 'first-tier' character in her own team's book, and had a longer run as a character, IIRC).
And then there's Crystal Kid, who hasn't really caught a break yet.
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I think Kole's tragically short tenure combined with how she was written in Crisis to make her so well-loved.
I read both her Crisis appearances and her main Titans book appearances, and I have to say that if I'd only read her in Titans I wouldn't have cared about her at all. There was her awful origin as mentioned, and she also spent much of that time weeping and being generally overwhelmed.
On the other hand, in Crisis she was confident, sure of herself, very pleasant, optimistic and acted like a pro - I was surprised to find out she wasn't one of the Titans mainstays, she acted so competent!
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yeah, her whole Thia and the Old Titans storyline and origin pretty much was like an acid trip (and drawn beautifully as an acid trip) but ... her kicking butt in the Crisis and after her origin ... sold me on her and I thought it was a shame to lose her so quickly. Was this a misjudgement on the writer's part or ... did it make us love her even more? Probably a bit of both.
Also, I love the take on her powers, she's like the age old ice generating character but ... with a fresh twist. Also actually being able to turn people into crystal ... was great! and vicious!
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quote:Originally posted by Lard Lad: JSA after JLA could be fun! Hard to think of any other DC teams besides the ones we've done and those two The Marvel ones you mention could be fun, too. But if the enthusiasm isn't there, well, I know I don't have the time and energy to run one of these thangs!
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I sure hope to read Kole's appearances eventually, along with most of the Wolfman/Perez run that I've never had the privelege to experience thus far.....
The Wolfman-Perez run had quite a few highlights that I'm sure you'd love, Lardy! Re Kole, as mentioned above you didn't really miss much as IMO her best moments were in Crisis
Re Avengers and X-Men, I'm really thinking of running them though if ever they'll be faster-paced than these other games have been
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