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Maybe he won't. Read the Facade issue (Detective #821) - the story was okay, but didn't knock me out. It seemed a bit simplistic and I really didn't like the idea that Gotham "society' were the better class of people. I know the character Facade condemned them as just wearing facades themselves, but the message from the Batman seemed to be don't mess with my tribe of gentlemen.
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Morrison's Batman has arrived, and it is KICK-ASS so far. I'm really liking it, especially Bruce's interaction with Robin & Alfred. Great way to begin, by showing the Joker the exit (a great Batman run with no Joker for awhile? Yay!), and Bruce not actually shooting him, but allowing that myth to circulate. Funny Jim Gordon scene.
I love Morrison's take on less popular characters, but he really feels like he's born to write Superman & Batman too.
Dini's latest Detective was a ton of fun too. Great Riddler story, good 'detective' aspect to it, and an excellent done in one story that reminds me of the animated series.
These two titles OYL (as well as Robin and Catwoman) are very appealing.
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quote:Originally posted by Fat Cramer: but the message from the Batman seemed to be don't mess with my tribe of gentlemen.
You know... I've actually always thought that Batman should have an underlying current like this. Kind of an element of protecting that idealized "upperworld" of Gotham society from the evil "underworld" which threatens to disrupt it, as it did his life. I would think, given his origin, that he might initially conceive of his motivation in something like these terms. Of course, as time goes by, he'd realize that things weren't as simple as all this, but a bit of this way of thinking might remain.
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That would make sense as his motivation, and there's no reason he couldn't remain a bit of a snob and still fight for justice. He could even go after white collar criminals because they are giving his class a bad name.
The new Batwoman is a society girl as well; it's interesting that all the buzz has focussed on her being a lesbian, not that she's another rich person playing superhero in Gotham.
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Hm, just read the Paul Dini Facade story (I read the Riddler one first, out of order). I notice that there's actually some dark humor underplayed here too, just like in Morrison's Batman. I love it!
"No crime in progress here, unless you count what the artist is charging for his works." Batman: art critic, and a harsh one to boot!
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i've never really been a big BATMAN fan [ the only recent issues that i bought was the 'HUSH' LOEB/LEE issues ]
but after reading these posts and listening to GRANT and PAUL talk about the books on the latest DC COMICS/PODCAST, i'm thinking of giving them a go ??
Matthew.
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So, question on Batman #655. Who is that on the last page? Is it Talia? Or someone else? Not a bad read if a bit quick and I love the synopsis for the next issue:
It's the Dark Knight vs. the League of Assassins' Ninja Man-Bats!
Sounds like it would make a great 'toon.
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I assumed it was Talia, because I was told that this issue is tied into Son of a Demon.
And, for the picky readers, Newsarama has an article on the "sub-text" for #855. I don't know if some of that isn't reaching for subtle messages, but it's an interesting adjunct to the issue.
quote:Originally posted by Fat Cramer: I assumed it was Talia, because I was told that this issue is tied into Son of a Demon.
Right on both. Son of a Demon is one of the few pre-Hush Batman arcs I think I collected.
Read #656 and it wasn't too bad, maybe a bit predictable. Does anyone else think that Kubert's art looks like Wally Wood here though? I had flashbacks to House of Mystery and Plop! while reading some panels. Especially the ones with Langstrom.
And yes, that's Talia and her and Bruce's son that has been in and out of continuity for twenty years.
I think this is the [insert whichever brother it is} Kubert art I've seen possibly ever too!
Matt, I highly reccomend both books right now. think we're on the verge of a GREAT era for the main two bat-books.
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Detective - I'm loving these stories so far! Reformed Penguin was great, and seeing reformed Riddler again was cool too. I hope both keep a continued presence in the stories. Dini's Bruce was great to see too. The wise-cracking Batman of this new era is fun. Lois Lane was a plus, and the story itself was well-written and fun. If that Magician stays around, he could end up being a very likable character. I already like his motivation for staying.
What has me most excited is next month's solicit with Dr. Phosphorus. I like the lesser known Bat-villains the most. I don't see how Rupert Thorne could be around though, considering he was killed by Hugo Strange in the 70's.
Batman - Also a great read. I already hate Batman's kid though, and hope we don't see *too* much of him. Still, Morrison did a great job as usual, and the dramatic show of Damien holding the Spook's severed head was done very well. Batman is great here again, and the scene when he yells at Damien was very intense and welcome.
The Spook is another villain I really like, although this version had pretty much run out of mystery, so I don't mind his death. I wouldn't mind seeing Morrison introducing a second Spook with even more mystery that could potentially be a big threat to Batman.
All and all, I'm quite satifisied with the (2) main Bat titles still and can't wait for more!
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Previews of next week's Batman and Detective are up at Newsarama.
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Read the Facade issue (Detective #821) - the story was okay, but didn't knock me out. It seemed a bit simplistic and I really didn't like the idea that Gotham "society' were the better class of people. I know the character Facade condemned them as just wearing facades themselves, but the message from the Batman seemed to be don't mess with my tribe of gentlemen. 
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