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Okay so the latest issue of RIP came out this week, and the story is starting to come together.
So far the tie-ins with the other Bat books have been well done. They aren't really tie-ins in the usual sense. Dini manages to mention Batman and the Black Glove somewhere in his stories, while Nightwing has a reference to Bruce's behaviour and his change in duds. These minimal affectations to the stories allow teh books to keep their own feel. It's very much like they aren't tie-ins at all.
From: Denver, CO | Registered: May 2004
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I'm totally with you CJ. RIP is coming together and I'm actually loving it so far. The issue with Bruce with Honor Jackson was for sure a "Morrison Tangent" story, but I thought it was pretty damn excellent. I just love what Morrison is doing here.
Also, I agree about the other series tie-ing in only slightly, which works to those title's advantages:
(1) Detective - while usually good lately, is spot-on good with Hush here. Hush has been hit/miss with me and I like how he's played here, and actually like the revelation of his past 'mentor'. I also like the notion of a Catwoman/Zatana/Bruce love triangle.
(2) Robin - wow, Fabien, WELCOME!!! I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to actually be so into his two issues! I hope he's staying for a longer time (I barely ever check comics news anymore). But he really picked right up where Dixon left off (yay, continuity as it should be!) and has a great two-parter with some really strong insight and character focus on Tim. Tim's revelation to himself at the end, though certainly not meant to be a surprise is both heroic and slightly tragic, in how you can see he could one day be a lot more like Bruce than we previously thought
(3) Nightwing - I've got to be honest, I've pretty much hated every single Nightwing issue up until RIP. I kept trying to give it a chance, but Devin really did a number on it, Bruce Jones didn't help, Wolfman couldn't really save it, and Tomasi's first couple issues weren't stellar. But something clicked here. The use of Two-Face, the new interesting DA character who is different than the 1,000 past females to show up in Nightwing, the art. I'm liking it.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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DC should learn from RIP and the Sinestro Corps events. We don't want large all encompassing cross overs, but the occasional story line bleeding into related titles is acceptable
I'm considering the Superman crossover this fall. And I haven't bought an issue of Big Blue... ever!
From: Denver, CO | Registered: May 2004
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I still have no clue what is happening, but I am loving every minute. I haven't picked up Nightwing, but Detective and Robin have been better then average.
From: Texas | Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:Originally posted by CJ Taylor: DC should learn from RIP and the Sinestro Corps events. We don't want large all encompassing cross overs, but the occasional story line bleeding into related titles is acceptable
Sales of Secret invasion seem to suggest otherwise.
At any rate, DC did learn from Sinestro Corps War. That's why RIP and the upcoming Superman crossover are unfolding the way they are. That's also part of why Final Crisis is comparatively self-contained.
The fanbase is rewarding DC for this by....well, by buying just about everything that says "Secret Invasion" on it.
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A great analysis of individual issues of Morrison's Batman run can be found here. Start from the bottom though and work your way up.
I just spent an hour reading them, and its great stuff, and helped me refresh my memory of what's gone down so far.
I honestly have no idea where this is going and that pleases me. Like most of you, I'd imagine, there are a handful of guesses I'd be able to make but honestly they'd just be guesses.
I do think "Batman is crazy" or "Batman is actually the Black Glove" is a red herring. I love, love, love the fact that Honor Jackson, Bat-Mite and the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh are a way for Batman's psyche to combat psychological attacks.
I'm in love with this run. For the first time in years (decades?) I think Batman might be DC's best [in-contiuity] comic. Its certainly surpassed JSA, and is tied with GL at least.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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I'm the same way FC. I love annotations, especially like here, but I've got to wonder if its a good thing that there's such a pre-existing gap to be filled by these annotations.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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listened to comicbookqueers podcast and one of the hosts suggested this: Click Here For A Spoilerthe black glove is the devil, perhaps Neron. this came from something grant morrison said on his site which was basically "it's very upfront". here's the quote "Can YOU guess the identity of the Black Glove? I keep thinking it’s so upfront, so obvious, that readers will inevitably demand an impromptu hanging when the reveal is revealed but, as ever, the looming possibility of public execution is part of the fun of writing BATMAN."
ok so ... the podcast made me want to pick it up again. the host suggested that all the things that gordon was throwing out at the beginning was more like morrison talking to us going "it's not this, this, or this".
i want to read this but i need your help, guys! a big problem i was having was that i didn't understand what order to read these in! the checklist doesn't seem to list in chrnono-order!
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Okay so while Morrison plays with Batman's mind, Dini is messing with his heart. The latest issue of 'Tec is full of Hush being sick and twisted, Scarecrow being creepy, and a hell of an ending.
This book truly deserves more spotlight.
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quote:Originally posted by veryvery: i want to read this but i need your help, guys! a big problem i was having was that i didn't understand what order to read these in! the checklist doesn't seem to list in chrnono-order!
Really, the entire story is in "Batman", all the rest is tangential to the main plot (some things on the checklist don't even fit in in any discernible way). At best they just fill in holes like "What the heck were XXXXX doing when Batman disappeared?". Stick with just the Batman title and you'll be fine.
From: Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada | Registered: Sep 2004
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The latest issue dragged a bit for me. Too much Joker, a character I really don't like, and he's weirder than ever. That's Morrison for you. I don't know if Batman gets the red/black stuff, but I don't. Still, good insights into Batman's thinking throughout this series. I probably need to reread the whole thing in one sitting.