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Okay, so yes, Casino Royale is the first book, but not the first movie.
Trailer says back to the beginning. Casino Royale makes sense for that.
Except- Judi Dench still plays M in the new movie, bringing Bond into the fold. Yet, she is the clear successor to the old M in the four Brosnan movies. Brosnan is (sorry to be so blunt) assembly line part, meaning that he is plugged into an existing role, while Dench wasn't, the new role was made for her. And now, somehow, movie timeline wise, she is supposed to be the previous M as well.
Yes, i know, willing suspension and all that.
Still, it just seems wrong.
The movie, however, if it sticks more to the book feel rather than the somewhat hooky movie style, might be enjoyable.
Seems like i have the 21st bond movie to add to my collection in about 8 months. If only i could find a copy of the american version of the TV live action that was the first Bond to see the airwaves.
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Rick, if you have this version of the DVD of Casino Royale with Peter Sellers you should have the 1954 Climax! episode that starred Peter Lorre.
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Oh, and being a Bond-ophile, do you have the comic strip collection from the Daily Express that ran in 1958? It was recollected and republished just last year along with the comic strip versions of Live and Let Die and Moonraker.
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An early script (I don't think the line stayed in) had M (Judi) explaining that ANY person who holds the title 007 is named James Bond. Just another way of keeping secrets in MI6. It goes a LONG way to explaining how Bond has had 6 faces in the films and has stayed in his 40's for almost 3 decades.
And LL, yes to both comments, along with all the 12" Sideshow Bond figures, The 80' Bond Comic, and on of the centerpieces of my toy collection - The Gilbert toys James Bond Slot Car Set - The toy that put Gilbert Toys out of Business.
Looks great - Still doesn't work
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Oh god, no, not that horrible premise. I thought it died with the original casino royale. Urrgh. There can be only one Bond!
As for the other items mentioned, no, i don't have them. I may be a bondophile (even has some original paperback printings), but i have a toddler now, lol.
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Well, we are guys. We aren't supposed to, lol. Still, if we can have Ursula in a bikini, i guess we can be man enough to realize that our significant others need their eye candy as well.
My main question is, who will be the chick in the flick? Anyone know?
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Cast: Daniel Craig - James Bond Eva Green - Vesper Lynd Mads Mikkelsen -Le Chiffre Caterina Murino - Solange Judi Dench - M Jeffrey Wright - Felix Leiter Giancarlo Giannini - Mathis
Production Release Date: 17th November 2006 Produced By: Eon Productions Distributor: Columbia Pictures Budget: $100 (estimated) Shooting Locations: Pinewood Studios (UK), Prague (Czech Republic), Bahamas, Italy Principal Photography: Start - 30th January 2006
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She's relatively new to the scene. Did some stage work at first, and has acted in three released films, with a lot in development. Here's the IMDb list of the released stuff:
The Dreamers (2003) (evidently she did full frontal nude scenes, FYI.)
Arsene Lupin (2004)
Kingdon Of Heaven (2005) (The Orlando Bloom flick, which is probably her best known US role. Possibly the only, since I'm not sure the other two got released here.)
I'm most interested in the fact she's working on a film based on the first book in the "Her Dark materials" trilogy.
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Last year I watched my entire TARZAN collection. Now, never mind different production companies, etc. Even in the "main" film series that rain from 1932 (TARZAN THE APE MAN) to 1966 (TARZAN AND THE JUNGLE BOY) and led (more or less) into the tv series (1966-68), it struck me that EVERY time they replaced the lead actor, the series went thru a "minor" reboot, as if we'd jumped the rails into an ALTERNATE version of the character. In fact, even with the same actor, it was known to happen between movies-- as with Gordon Scott, whose last 2 films just CAN'T be the "same" Tarzan he played in the previous 4!
Meanwhile... for anyone to have even CONSIDERED such a mind-numbingly stupid reference to a gimmick from the 1967 film, they should never work in movies again.
Having Judi Dench in this just makes no sense, no matter how they try to cut it. Unless, of course, it's another mild "reboot". I mean, in Bond's case, it really gets bizzarre, because they replaced both Bond and Moneypenny when they did THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS-- but not M or Q. And in GOLDENEYE, again we got a new Bond, a new Moneypenny, even a new M-- but STILL the same Q!
It's probably too early to think about this, but I wonder if this film will be a "one-time" flashback, or if they'll actually go back and RE-adapt the books? The last few years it's struck me that the guy who played The Kingpin in the DAREDEVIL movie would be PERFECT as "Mister Big" in LIVE AND LET DIE. (But then, I think Hallie Berry would be perfect for "Solitaire".)
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I just know that my wife and i have date night planned to go see it, lol. I don't know Craig from anything, but it's a bond movie. Not gonna miss it.
As to your remakes, that does seem like pretty good casting. But they already used Halle, lol. How bout Vivica Fox. She's a knockout.
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Finally got to see the movie last night. (Toddlers that are sick take precedent, lol)
My review:
First, they addressed the issue of Judi Dench being the original M in a time warp kinda thing by...not addressing it at all. Makes sense, but the purist in me shudders, lol.
Second, Craig as Bond...B+. They made him a little more brutish than Flemings bond, but thats okay since they made him a lot more refined in the movies than he was in the book. My wife was blown away by the opening sequence. She called the bad guy that ran almost monkey-like in his gymnastics. ( That wasn't a racial slur, by the way, she doesn't go for that. It was simply an expression of just how good they guys gymnastics were. I agree that it was one of the top chase scenes of all times in that regard. The guys doing it were masters, no doubt about it.)
Craig was rough, unpolished, and implaccable, without the usual bad scene. By that, i mean that over the last few years James Bond had become the impossible man, like the Iceberg parachuting scene of Die Another Day. I always thought that James should be more like the "Improbable" man. The chances he takes only have a miniscule chance of success, but he pulls them off.
Green...all i can say about her as Vesper Lyn is...dear god eat something. Seriously. When she stood and you had a side profile, she looked as if she was caving in except for her impossibly large breasts for someone of her size and weight. For natural women to be that large, they have to have some meat on their bones. She looked concave. Not good. It did actually fit the original discription of her, though, if i remember correctly. Still, i am not attracted to pubescent boys, and i will never understand why hollywood wants their women to look like teenage boys with oranges in their shirts. Compare her body style with the women of the first four bond movies and you see the difference.
The villians were forgettable, but the movie was refocusing on Bond himself, so that was fine. We get an idea of how and why the bond we know and love came to be, and that set it off better than anything in a while.
Better than the last three bond movies with Brosnan, not better than goldeneye or the first four with Sean, and much better than Moore or Lazenby.
A solid, fun first outing.
Glad i got to see it in a theatre.
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I saw CASINO ROYALE today. "Based on the novel by Ian Fleming", it said. They have NEVER had a credit like that in any previous movie! The first half (more or less) makes a farce of that, as it's entirtely new material which has nothing to do with the book. But the 2nd half... WHOA. Not since 1989's LICENSE TO KILL has genuine Ian Fleming material been adapted to screen in such heaping amounts, and not since 1981's FOR YOUR EYES ONLY has it been done so faithfully... even if the "adaptation" has been fleshed out and inserted whole into an otherwise brand-new, "contemporary" story.
I was in a certain kind of nirvana during the card game. I had no idea what was going on (as usual), but my memories of reading the book-- in the EARLY 70's-- came back, and I remembered and realized just HOW MUCH of the book they were actually using. ASTONISHING! When Bond ran out of the Casino and saw Vesper shoved into a car, then took off after her, and what followed... WOW. I think it's been DECADES since a book I read has actually been turned into a movie, in whatever fashion.
On the way home, I realized the ONLY loose end-- which could be interpreted as several related loose ends-- related to whether Rene Mathis was in fact a double-agent, or not. As he turns up in the novel FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, I know in the novel he wasn't. He was one of my favorite actors in the film. (As I suspected, I'd seen him before; he was the police inspector in ONCE UPON A CRIME, from 1992.) I wonder if this will be followed up in a future film?
Oh, by the way... I noticed in the opening credits the movie was directed by Martin Campbell. He's, so far, the 1st of the "new breed" of directors (since the series came back from its legal-entangled haitus) to come back for a return. Will he get around to 3 (like Terence Young & Lewis Gilbert), 4 (like Guy Hamilton) or 5 (like John Glen)?
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