In the wake of the “Legion Of Superheroes” cancellation LITG’d back here, I can confirm that Tony Bedard is writing a new “L.E.G.I.O.N” series based on the eighties/nineties series.
So I was right when I guessed it a couple of months ago... veryvery, can you confirm now?
One good piece of news that still doesn't take me from seeing Shooter gone from Legion.
Posted by MLLASH on :
I dunno, last time I saw L.E.G.I.O.N. I didn't like what I was seeing.
I need Dox, Stealth, Strata, Mrs and Mrs. Bek, Captain Comet, Lady Quark, Phase, hell even Lobo for this to work for me.... I'll certainly try it though.
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
Blech. I find the prospect of a L.E.G.I.O.N. title being published while there's no ongoing LSH title set in it's *proper* era not only a bad idea, but insulting.
Posted by Reboot on :
I'm heartbroken.
[Sorry, I know - obviously I'm not, I just had to get the sarcasm out my system]
Posted by Ricardo on :
As long as they are not R.E.B.E.L.S. or any crap like that, I'm cool. But I have never read any decent Bedard story so far to see if I'll like it. I'd have called Gerard Jones myself. Or Shooter.
Posted by veryvery on :
yep! this is what he told me! he asked me some questions about the dox family and i about exploded with happiness. he was chilling with tom peyer at ECCC and i think they were talking about LEGION stuff. it was so weird because we'd just bought a run of rebelsto get peyer to sign it. ahhh i'm so glad i can speak now @______@!
Posted by veryvery on :
oh and judging by the things he was talking about, i definitely think it will be the old team of dox and stealth, perhaps even lobo? et al, i think the dox family is getting pretty popular right now what with the revamp of Brainiac. i'm SO excited for this, i think bedard is a really good writer, i'm always happy with his stories. i think he's VERY solid and doesn't get the credit he deserves. and i think he's already shown he can write a bitchy, manipulative dox, i cannot wait to see what's basically querl with no holds barred *swoon*
Posted by Ricardo on :
You said he was talking to Peyer.. but Peyer was the guy who sank L.E.G.I.O.N.!!! Please, veryvery, ask him to talk to Keith Giffen and Gerry Jones instead. These guys know their game! Don't forget to buy the first 3 years of L.E.G.I.O.N. with wonderful Kitson art.
Posted by Matthew E on :
I've only read a few issues of L.E.G.I.O.N. I'm slowly accumulating issues as I find them in dollar bins and stuff. I wonder if I'm going to give this new series a try.
Posted by veryvery on :
awww, i really liked REBELS! hahah and i'm not a big kitson fan. ricardo, i think we're the exact opposites of one another.
personally, i can't wait to see them drawn by a more modern artist. that tiny tiny panel we saw of them in infinite crisis made me so excited ;__;
Posted by Set on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: I need Dox, Stealth, Strata, Mrs and Mrs. Bek, Captain Comet, Lady Quark, Phase, hell even Lobo for this to work for me...
The only people I know from that list are Captain Comet (who I used to like back in Secret Society of Super-Villains, but that was *decades* ago...), Lady Quark (who was a really annoying character from the original Crisis, last I recall) and Lobo (who's the most annoying DC character, ever, IMO).
Is that insane pre-Legion-Legion that had some sort of retcon of Tinya from a Bgtzl'n into a Carggite with a soul gem that looked like Mysa's and could phase anyway, or some such nonsense? I remember reading something about that and just wondering how cheap drugs were that year, and if they were sharing them with the dude who decided that Psylocke couldn't just be a telepathic blind mutant supermodel with bionic eyes, but also had to be a ninja telepathic blind mutant supermodel with bionic eyes...
Posted by Arm Fall Off Boy on :
I have to say the only reason I bought L.E.G.I.O.N. was that it was Legion related.
Just refereshing my memory from the Comic Collector website, I don't think I remember buying beyond issue 20; I didn't realize it even went for 70 issues.
I did like the team at first, and if I remember correctly, Dox was a complete horse's arse, but the dynamic worked, and I also liked the covers (didn't Kevin Maguire do quite a few?).
However, I really don't see myself picking up a new series.
Posted by Ricardo on :
veryvery - Did you get to read the first issues, though? Storywise, they were miles beyond R.E.B.E.L.S. I can see you enjoying the art from the latter series, though, but by then, the group didn't make any sense to me.
Set - As far as I know, during L.E.G.I.O.N. period, Tinya was simply Tinya with amnesia. No soul gem whatsoever. Maybe later in the run?
Arm Fall Off Boy - You probably left a bit after Keith left. And the first covers were done beautifully by Gary Leach. Maguire took the job a bit later.
L.E.G.I.O.N. was probably one of the reasons I looked at the LSH with more attention at that time. So it does have a soft spot for me. And it had Barry Kitson's finest job. And the interaction between Vril Dox and Lobo was genius. One a$$ to another...
Posted by Tromium on :
Bedard is a good writer but I had no interest whatever in the original L.E.G.I.O.N and care even less about its reboot.
If DC is publishing this to assuage Legion fans, they've reached heights of stupidity even I couldn't imagine.
Posted by Reboot on :
quote:Originally posted by Set: Is that insane pre-Legion-Legion that had some sort of retcon of Tinya from a Bgtzl'n into a Carggite with a soul gem that looked like Mysa's and could phase anyway, or some such nonsense?
Btzglian mother, Carggite father.
quote:Originally posted by Set: I remember reading something about that and just wondering how cheap drugs were that year, and if they were sharing them with the dude who decided that Psylocke couldn't just be a telepathic blind mutant supermodel with bionic eyes, but also had to be a ninja telepathic blind mutant supermodel with bionic eyes...
The bionic eyes stayed with the original body, FTR.
Posted by Kid Quislet on :
L.E.G.I.O.N. to me was always a twisted version of the 31st century Legion. It featured two characters Dox and Lobo who to me are the antithesis of heroic. The organization itself operated as mercenaries rather than volunteers. That concept was never very appealing to me, and despite the great Kitson artwork, I couldn't enjoy the original version enough to keep supporting it.
I like the Legion work of Tony Bedard and would, however, give a new L.E.G.I.O.N. title a tryout for that reason.
Posted by reckless on :
Is Dan Didio on crack? L.E.G.I.O.N. was a failed endeavor in the 1980s and early 1990s, when the regular Legion was at the height of its sales. To bring it in as a pseudo-replacement for the main Legion is a slap in the face of Legion fans.
I'm not saying a 21st Century science fiction title can't work, but why revive L.E.G.I.O.N. at all -- especially at a time that the main Legion book is being cancelled? Just create a new book.
Posted by Chemical King on :
quote:Originally posted by Ricardo: As long as they are not R.E.B.E.L.S. or any crap like that, I'm cool. But I have never read any decent Bedard story so far to see if I'll like it. I'd have called Gerard Jones myself. Or Shooter.
Did you read Crossgens Negation? I thought that one was excellent, done by Bedard. Just bought Bedards run on Exiles on german Ebay, very curious about that. I'll let you know if it was any good in my eyes as soon as I read it.
As for L.E.G.I.O.N.: I really thought the series start was fantastic, great SciFi story, great art which was far superior to Kitsons later work on Legion - alone because of the fact that he did not have to draw a dozen caucasian faces which all looked alike
Bedard in my eyes is a very good choice to do this restart. But it will be important whic characters he's allowed to use.
For my part, I'll have to haul all those old L.E.G.I.O.N. books out of the shelf which I never read never made it farther than the first 20 issues, meanwhile I have collected nearly the whole run - without reading it... but there's enough time until the new #1 is coming out Posted by Ricardo on :
quote:Originally posted by reckless: Is Dan Didio on crack? L.E.G.I.O.N. was a failed endeavor in the 1980s and early 1990s, when the regular Legion was at the height of its sales. To bring it in as a pseudo-replacement for the main Legion is a slap in the face of Legion fans.
I'm not saying a 21st Century science fiction title can't work, but why revive L.E.G.I.O.N. at all -- especially at a time that the main Legion book is being cancelled? Just create a new book.
It can't be called a failure when it lasted over 70 issues and it just died because it became irrecognizable as R.E.B.E.L.S., which was the equivalent of Legion on The Run in the 20st Century.
And I like that L.E.G.I.O.N. was never the Junior LSH or anything like that. It had a concept of its own and some of the best Keith characterization even, So, I don't even see that as a Legion substitute, but a book to increase the galactic side of DCU that is currently relegated to Starlin's miniseries and GLC. Far too little in my opinion.
Posted by Positive Man on :
Well, I liked the first five years of that title but then it slumped and REBELS sucked. Instead of connecting it more with LSH lore, which would dilute the Legion franchise, I think that it would be better for the book to be a sort of showcase for the non GLC DC Universe alien-based characters, out of their recent minis such as Holy War and Countdown to Adventure: people like Adam Strange (instead of Captain Comet), Prince Gavyn, Starfire and the Weird (or some oddballs like Jemm, Son of Saturn and Halo), groups such as the Omega Men and the Darkstars (and even more obscure, like the Xenobrood or the Blasters), locations like Hardcore Station or Warworld and NON LSH alien races (there's loads to choose from, from the Appelaxians to the Zi Charan) would broaden it's scope and fan interest, slightly departing from the whole retro Legion initial concept. Nonetheless, I would like to see Dox, Mon-El, Strata and Lyrissa Darkstar in the book's regular cast.
Posted by What Was Wrong With the Reboot? Lad on :
it sounds like DC might be trying to balance out Marvel's revamped Guardians of the Galaxy (our old friends DnA at the helm...)
Posted by Ricardo on :
quote:Originally posted by What Was Wrong With the Reboot? Lad: it sounds like DC might be trying to balance out Marvel's revamped Guardians of the Galaxy (our old friends DnA at the helm...)
And let's consider that, except for Silver Surfer (who was never a huge seller) and the Thanos Saga, Marvel cosmic heroes are nothing compared to DCU stronghold on such kind of book.
Posted by Zero Kahn on :
I have been wating for LEGION to make a comeback for a while now. They are really the only major cosmic title that has not gotten some exposure since Infinity Crisis. Yeah Dox has been player in other minis, but is just not the same as when the whole LEGION crew is together. I have missed guys like Garyn Bek, Telapath, Garv, Strata, Zena Moonstruck, Lydia Mallor, and all the rest of the core cast of characters.
Plus maybe now we will finally find out what happened to Dox and Stealths kid.
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
Dox is one of the all-time great unknown characters. He was written masterfully. My favorite Dox moment was probably the people are food issue.
I hope Lady Quark and Captain Comet are still around?
Posted by Ricardo on :
quote:Originally posted by Blockade Boy: Dox is one of the all-time great unknown characters. He was written masterfully. My favorite Dox moment was probably the people are food issue.
I hope Lady Quark and Captain Comet are still around?
Comet is at Rann/Thanagar War, but it is not the same Captain Comet, sort of. But nothing really shocking or anti-chronology. As for Lady Quark... no idea. It would be funny to see The Weird dialoguing with Dox, though...
Posted by Zero Kahn on :
Captain Comet went through some changes in the Mystery in Space mini series. Among other things he is younger. He is currently appearing in the Rann/Thanagar: Holy War.
Lady Quark is dead as far as I know. You know Maxima who would have been a good replacement for Lobo in this revamped LEGION if she wasn't dead. She is just as arogent as Dox and tough as a tank to boot.
Posted by Candle on :
Originally posted by Ricardo: Set - As far as I know, during L.E.G.I.O.N. period, Tinya was simply Tinya with amnesia. No soul gem whatsoever. Maybe later in the run?
Yes, that all happened from the Legion series, rather then in the by then discontinued LEGION, while the team was in the past. That 'mini' series was one of my favorite Legion arcs. It all made perfect sense to me, anyway.
Tinya had been killed in the Legion's future timeline but her 'soulself' remained with Ultra Boy because she still had two alive bodies somewhere in time and space. When she went with him into the past (along with Gates, Imra and others), her soulstone/soul eventually drew her living body, in the form of the time displaced Phase, to her. The souls united, as they normally do (i.e., Duo Damsel). They begame one personality, one body (unless the other one showed up sometime in the distant future), one power ~ phasing = one elegant solution to an origin that many people didn't like. I did, though.
I've always thought a reboot should have some basic differences in characters or at the very least, some minor, less basic ones.
If I were rebooting, the new Legion Universe would be VERY different from the old one(s)!
I must say that I loved the L.E.G.I.O.N., especially in the beginning with Kitson, but really all the way through the series. I remember some great gems, like Lar Gand and the Eye and Lyddea getting her shadow powers! sigh
REBELS wasn't so good, though. But, Comet and the ex-Mrs. Bek were great together, as were the two rock people/couple, I've forgotten their names.
Anyway,I seem to remember Lady Quark being killed toward the end of the series, during one of DC's killing sprees, I think. I wish there was more of a LEGION follow-up in the Legion stories. There was just a little bit once, with Brainy using an old LEGION cruiser after Dreamy died.
[ September 30, 2008, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: Candle ]
Posted by Triplicate Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by Ricardo: And let's consider that, except for Silver Surfer (who was never a huge seller) and the Thanos Saga, Marvel cosmic heroes are nothing compared to DCU stronghold on such kind of book.
I wouldn't say that. Or, more accurately, you're right, but not in the sense I think you mean it. http://michaelmay.blogspot.com/2008/08/gamora-guardians-of-galaxy-1.html points out that there's a difference between space-based SF and what Marvel likes to call "cosmic". That normally means metaphysical stuff, more space-based fantasy. DC has done a lot of that (Crisis on Infinite Earths, anyone?)... but the Legion is usually more SF than "cosmic".
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
I am slightly excited. If it wasn't Bedard I would be worried. The problem I have with Legion dots is the name. I don't mind having a sci-fi cosmic team with LOSH ties (heavy ties) but the name is a bit too much for me. A bit too obvious. Ohwell. Still excited.
Posted by Werezompire Stu on :
In honor of L.E.G.I.O.N., I may go back to being S.T.U. again.
Posted by Jerry on :
Seriously That Ugly?
Suddenly Thinking Underwater?
Spandex Tailored Underwear?
Student Taking Uppers?
Stunning,Tired and Useless?
Posted by Ricardo on :
Wasn't there in one of Keith's LSH v4 issues, in which they find something underground, a logo of the L.E.G.I.O.N. painted on a wall?
Posted by veryvery on :
in the showcase issues, querl and vril actually met and beat brainiac 1 with sticks. i'm not kidding.
I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS! i hope he gets a cool artist!!!
Posted by Askanipsion on :
Ugg what disappointing news....I tried reading LEGION and I absolutely hated it. It felt like it was filled with "imposters".
Unless Dream Girl or Saturn Girl appears in it, I will pass on it.
Posted by Askanipsion on :
quote:The bionic eyes stayed with the original body, FTR.
Until she ripped them out herself....too bad...I like the old British Betsy body better than the "dental floss wearing sometimes-I-am-Asian ninja Betsy"
Posted by googoomuck on :
quote:Originally posted by Askanipsion: Ugg what disappointing news....I tried reading LEGION and I absolutely hated it. It felt like it was filled with "imposters".
Unless Dream Girl or Saturn Girl appears in it, I will pass on it.
I agree, I'll pass even if Dream Girl or Saturn Girl appears in it.
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
Call me optimistic, but I don't see DC replacing an ongoing Legion title with L.E.G.I.O.N. If anything we'd get both.
So:
(1) I'm hella excited for a Bedard LEGION series, hope its the *right* characters and loved Bedard's Negation.
(2) I have high hopes that we'll get a solid Legion comic after Lo3W. Considering I disliked the threeboot the most of all versions of the Legion, this is good news for me. You won't see me gloating to posters who liked the threeboot though, since I remember all too well the feeling.
Of course, if there is no Legion comic at all, I don't live very far from NYC and I may go Superboy Prime on the offices.
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
BBB - Bring Back the Beks! I don't particularly want to see baby Dox with a key role. He could be the snotty kid in the background.
Hope does spring eternal, doesn't it? I enjoyed L.E.G.I.O.N. for most of its run. I wonder if they'll pick up where R.E.B.E.L.S. left off, or if it will be sort of a reboot.
Posted by Patch Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Mystery Lad: Blech. I find the prospect of a L.E.G.I.O.N. title being published while there's no ongoing LSH title set in it's *proper* era not only a bad idea, but insulting.
I totally agree with you on that one
Posted by Patch Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Ricardo: As long as they are not R.E.B.E.L.S. or any crap like that, I'm cool. But I have never read any decent Bedard story so far to see if I'll like it. I'd have called Gerard Jones myself. Or Shooter.
I loved Bedard's work on Negation (Crossgen). I was really surprised when his Legion issues were so bad.
Posted by Patch Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by What Was Wrong With the Reboot? Lad: it sounds like DC might be trying to balance out Marvel's revamped Guardians of the Galaxy (our old friends DnA at the helm...)
I was just thinking that...
Posted by Patch Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Ricardo: Wasn't there in one of Keith's LSH v4 issues, in which they find something underground, a logo of the L.E.G.I.O.N. painted on a wall?
They used a L.E.G.I.O.N. cruiser in Waid's run I remember
Posted by Patch Lad on :
quote: Of course, if there is no Legion comic at all, I don't live very far from NYC and I may go Superboy Prime on the offices. [/QB]
Speaking of that, this whole thing makes me madder the more I think about it.
I have seriously considered starting some kind of campaign to bring the original LSH back (the one that Johns is using now) or at the very least, get the Legion back for sure. Something like they did with Jericho and Firefly.
What do you guys think?
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
I never read LEGION. I got the REBELS crossover issues, and just didn't feel like adding another series to my list at the time. I never got the Valor series either. I'm not AR, I guess.
I'll have to wait and see what you all think of LEGION, when it happens.
Posted by Phantom Girl on :
I haven't read or collected much of the L.E.G.I.O.N. comic. Can someone take the time to tell me why they wrote it like an acronym? What does it stand for? Why do all the characters look different? No costumes? Honestly, if they didn't have L.E.G.I.O.N. on the cover, I wouldn't have known it was a Legion comic. Is this the 5 year gap I have heard about? What exactly was the 5 year gap? What is all this talk about REBELS about? Essentially explain to me what the comic was all about. Please. Also are we totally sure that they are doing this or is it still speculation?
Posted by Ricardo on :
quote:Originally posted by Fat Cramer: BBB - Bring Back the Beks! I don't particularly want to see baby Dox with a key role. He could be the snotty kid in the background.
Hope does spring eternal, doesn't it? I enjoyed L.E.G.I.O.N. for most of its run. I wonder if they'll pick up where R.E.B.E.L.S. left off, or if it will be sort of a reboot.
It makes no sense to reboot it, since L.E.G.I.O.N. is actually active in DCU - Dox appeared on Mystery In Space in fact. So, thankfully, no reboot, but picking up from where it was (and it wasn't R.E.B.E.L.S. anymore).
Posted by Ricardo on :
quote:Originally posted by Phantom Girl: I haven't read or collected much of the L.E.G.I.O.N. comic. Can someone take the time to tell me why they wrote it like an acronym? What does it stand for? Why do all the characters look different? No costumes? Honestly, if they didn't have L.E.G.I.O.N. on the cover, I wouldn't have known it was a Legion comic. Is this the 5 year gap I have heard about? What exactly was the 5 year gap? What is all this talk about REBELS about? Essentially explain to me what the comic was all about. Please. Also are we totally sure that they are doing this or is it still speculation?
Okay, let's go:
It is not a Legion comic, in my opinion. It never was. Kudos to Keith Giffen, who never tried to make it like a 20th Century Legion book. In fact, they are basically a group of heroes-for-hire (nothing further away from a Legion book) covering what other cosmic teams can't cover. Its ties to the Legion are light, but they do exist: Vril Dox is the leader and he is an ancestor to Brainy. For a while, we had Phase on the team, who was actually Tinya displaced in time with amnesia (somebody said that reboot screwed with something else - another good reason to despise reboot). There was also Lyrissa (from Tallok VIII) and Strata (from Dryad). But never mentioned as ancestors or anything like that. There was also a Durlan but he was probably retconned out of continuity because Click Here For A Spoilerhe was R. J. Brande. Apart from that, it was a completely different beast, in my opinion. And that's why I liked it - I really wouldn't like it if it became Young Legion or Legion Society of America. Hopefully, Bedard will pick that up and not try to emulate LSH.
Oh, and L.E.G.I.O.N. stands for Licensed Extra-Governmental Interstellar Operatives Network. More here. I really miss Stealth and Bek.
Posted by Candle on :
quote:Originally posted by Sketch Lad: I never read LEGION. I got the REBELS crossover issues, and just didn't feel like adding another series to my list at the time. I never got the Valor series either. I'm not AR, I guess.
I'll have to wait and see what you all think of LEGION, when it happens.
REBELS certainly wouldn't make you want to stay with the concept, that's for sure. I used to be such a Legion purist I'd buy anything with any related characters in it, Valor, LEGION, anything.
I enjoyed the LEGION concept because a lot of old Legion stories had connections with the past that usually weren't gone into very well or extensively. Shadow Lass' ancestress from the Darkseid arc was something of interest to me, ofcourse. There was a Brainiac villian in the past but how did he/it produce a whole line of beings with that title? Where was the Eye of Ekron before the Empress? ect So, I loved it's addition to Legionlore. I never thought of those characters as imposters.
I'm with Cobalt on this one, I'll be an optomist and expect both series to run and to be good, or at least hope and wait & see.
I know I'm close to alone in this, but I really don't have much interest in an original Legion series. Not unless they're shown as older adults ~ more of a Justice League or even a Justice Society. I'd want them as mentors to a new generation of Legionaires. Johns' group just seems so worn-out, joyless and fragmented to me, even more than Giffen's 5 yr. later run. I don't enjoy them at all. Oh,well.
Posted by Phantom Girl on :
Wow....doesn't sound like Legion at all. It takes place in the 20th century? Basically consists of ancestors of the Legionnaires? The ancestors of Legionnaires isn't so bad but the whole Hero for Hire approach I think I loathe.
As a rapidly acquire my Legion collection....does L.E.G.I.O.N even belong in it?
So basically a Legion comic with no actual Legionnaire cast? Ouch!
Posted by Ricardo on :
quote:Originally posted by Phantom Girl: Wow....doesn't sound like Legion at all. It takes place in the 20th century? Basically consists of ancestors of the Legionnaires? The ancestors of Legionnaires isn't so bad but the whole Hero for Hire approach I think I loathe.
As a rapidly acquire my Legion collection....does L.E.G.I.O.N even belong in it?
So basically a Legion comic with no actual Legionnaire cast? Ouch!
It's not really a hero for hire as Marvel characters or even The Conglomerate. It's way more subtle. Like a government hiring them to solve problems all around.
And yes, it fits perfectly. And it's Barry Kitson's rise to stardom. And - as I said - there is a Legionnaire cast, but not from the 30th Century.
I'd say you should at least try the first 2 years' worth of storylines. You will like it - especially if you don't try to compare it to LSH.
Posted by Zero Kahn on :
quote:Originally posted by Phantom Girl: I haven't read or collected much of the L.E.G.I.O.N. comic. Can someone take the time to tell me why they wrote it like an acronym? What does it stand for? Why do all the characters look different? No costumes? Honestly, if they didn't have L.E.G.I.O.N. on the cover, I wouldn't have known it was a Legion comic. Is this the 5 year gap I have heard about? What exactly was the 5 year gap? What is all this talk about REBELS about? Essentially explain to me what the comic was all about. Please. Also are we totally sure that they are doing this or is it still speculation?
No this is not the 5 Years Latter... you have heard about. That was Legion of Super Heroes volume 4 issue 1-61 and Legionaries 1-18. The 5years Latter... stroyline was when Giffen relaunched the series after the Levitz series. He jumped the timeline up 5 years and started from there. In that time the Legion had been disbanded and Earth was secretly under the control of the Dominators. The series started up with Chameleon Boy deciding that the LEgion had been goen too long and that they were needed again, and he sets out to reunite the team and figure out whats going wrong on Earth.
The LEGION series came out of the Invasion mini series. In Invasion we meet Vril Dox II who along with some other prisoners of the Allience go on to form the core group that becomes LEGION. After deafeting the Computer Tyrants of Colu the group becomes a interplantary protection service. Basically cosmic rent-a-cops.
REBELS came about after Vril Doxs and another core member Stealths evil son took over the orginaztaion through mind control. It was mostly about Vril and the others that were immune to little Doxs mind control figuring out how to deafeat him and take back LEGION.
These are the main ties L.E.G.I.O.N had with Legion:
Vril Dox and Lyrl Dox - ancestors of Brainiac 5 Lyrissa and Lydia Mallor - ancestors of Shadow Girl Durlan - was the time lost RJ Brande founder of the Legion and father of Chameleon Boy Phase - ties to Phantom Girl/was Phantom Girl (very complicated) Lar Gand (Valor/Mon-El) - was a member before he was put into the Phantom Zone briefly Garryn Bek - used the Emerald Eye for a while Strata - a member of Blok's race Computer Tyrants of Colu - became Pulsar Stargrave.
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by Ricardo:
quote:Originally posted by Phantom Girl: the whole Hero for Hire approach I think I loathe.
It's not really a hero for hire as Marvel characters or even The Conglomerate. It's way more subtle. Like a government hiring them to solve problems all around.
I'd describe it more as, a group of waywards mostly extorted by a maniacle to do his bidding, which is to extort governments to hire him to to solve problems they didn't know they had until he caused them, mostly because he has an obsession with the ridding of bad-guys and nothing much else to occupy his time.
Like Ricardo, I never considered this in anyway a Legion book but it's loose connection did provide added interest to me. Mostly I liked that it was out in space and that Dox is who I'd want to be, except for that whole being "raped/cannibalized" thing.
Posted by Candle on :
Kahn ~ I'm sorry I made it sound like I thought the 2 story lines were somehow together in my mind. I probably confuse people a lot! To clarify, I hope: Geoff Johns' Legion, the one that brings back some of the original Legion team members, seem rather unhappy, disillusioned and unteamlike to me. I tried to compare their outword attitudes with the way the Legion was portrayed in the Giffen run, which was in the same 'boot' as the original Legion, just 5 years further along in their lives.
Moving on, I agree with dotLegion not really being a Legion book but there were many more similarities or small connections then mentioned so far. There was a small group of dotLEGION trainies who were similar to both the Subs and the Academy in nature and handling, IMO. We saw various planets/natives/powers that were ancestors or shadows of Legionlore. There was, briefly, an element manipulator like Jan. The first major villian, a fire user/mentalmanipulator, Barry's introductory image of her is still so strongly in my mind, was building a super-villian group. Lyddea went to Talok to receive her Mallor shadow powers. Having Jo Nah (the original)grief over loosing Tinya and his hope when he came looking for Phase was great. Then the boot changed the older man's grief into a reunionification/resurection of teenPhase. . . Lots of great stuff, I think!
I don't know. dotLEGION just seems more closely connected to the Legion in my mind, then others may feel. I know that in the lastboot, when Brainy seemed so cold and supermanipulative, I thought of the LEGION. And when the team was divided against him, some trying to stop his plots and others trying to aid him, it was familiar from the LEGION era.
With all that, I DO agree that no one needs to read dotLEGION to try to understand Legion. Unless this new LEGION is going to be more closely connected to the new Legion.
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
What if Action Legion goes back in time and becomes L.E.G.I.O.N. after Lo3W?
Posted by Ricardo on :
quote:Originally posted by Sketch Lad: What if Action Legion goes back in time and becomes L.E.G.I.O.N. after Lo3W?
That would suck just as much as Legion on The Run. Or the Reboot.
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
Not a fan of that idea either. L.E.G.I.O.N. is well established and separate entity from LSH and personally I prefer that. I'm not sure what I'd want to become of the L3W Legion but I know I want L.E.G.I.O.N. to stay intact.
Posted by dedman on :
A new dotLegion book sounds great to me. It was always one of my favorites up until near the end of its run when the quality really seemed to fade. Evrey now and then we see them popup in current DCU titles and minis, it'll be good to see them carry their own title again.
oh and just an aside, I've always considered dotLegion to be somekind of precursor to the Science Police
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
What? You didn't like the talking tree?
"precursor to the Science Police"
That's an interesting thought. A 1000 years is a long time but the idea had to come from something. Darkstars seemed to be heading there but kind of fell by the wayside.
Eithe Lyl or Dox, egos that they were, would have left a trace of themselves somewhere to influence future police forces. Be funny if that popped up.
Posted by Ricardo on :
It seems that L.E.G.I.O.N. will not be back, but rather R.E.B.E.L.S. Has anyone else read that somewhere? That would be awful...
Posted by MLLASH on :
I liked dotREBELS more than most here, it seems (I'll admit it took a rereading from start to finish a few years AFTER it was published to improve my opinion, and I stil thought the ending was WAY off) so I'm not completely against this.
A lot of it, for me, will depend on the characters included in the story.
And honestly, I think I prefer only one LEGION team, and LSH will trump dotLEGION every time there for me.
Posted by Ricardo on :
So dotREBELS it is. Since I never compared LEGION to LSH, for me, it's kind of a mute point to redo REBELS, which was a loser book from the beginning. I'll give it about 12 issues to be canned for good all over again.
Posted by Patch Lad on :
So far I haven't seen this news anywhere. Can anyone confirm?
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
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