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Posted by Korbal on :
 
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[ March 09, 2011, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: lil'rhino ]
 
Posted by Dev Em on :
 
Looks interesting. I notice though that there seems to be a bit of padding on those pages in my opinion.
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
sexy!
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
Is that Urk's big brother??
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
Not loving the designs of any of the new characters (and I say that as a BIG Portela fan) but the writing seems OK (agree about the padding though) and am looking forward to reading this one. I wonder if we'll see cameos by any LSHers or if it's just gonna be LSVers all the way?
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
I just glanced at it since I prefer to read the actual book, but it seemed to be a fair enough amount of panels to me. Looking forward to it!
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lil'rhino:
Is that Urk's big brother??

That was my first thought as well!

I like the look of this so far! [Smile]
 
Posted by Omni Craig on :
 
Hey, its got Mekt, so I'm happy. I can't wait!
 
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
 
It was a great start to the storyline. Maybe a little long, but we definitely got a good sense of the "team" dynmaics ("Do what Saturn Queen says"). I'll be curious to see how long before Mekt slips his leash. The new villains are decent additions to the rogues gallery and I've always had a soft spot for Zymyr (and 'porting battle between he and gates would be interesting).

Can't wait to see who Mekt recruits now that he's free of the Queen's influence for a bit.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
I didn't buy the issue, mostly because I'm trying to distance myself a bit from "villain-oriented" books, but I did look through it.

I really like the way Francis Portella draws Ultra Boy.
 
Posted by BouncingBear on :
 
Interesting read.

Like:
The Hunter
Zymyr
Lighting Lord
Saturn Queen
Questor

Dis-Like:
Sun Killer
Immortus

Luke-Warm:
Akka

Like:
Micro Lad knifed in the back and left dead as a door nail. Never liked him, although I did like his new costume.

Dis-Liked:
The destruction of the Rock of Eternity.
 
Posted by Ken Arromdee on :
 
The main thing I disliked about this book is that the main characters are unsympathetic enough that there's no reason to care about them.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
huh? Questor and Immortus are now bad guys?!?! oh not a good sign. and where is Sun Emperor? that Timber Wolf was supposed to fight? and Cosmic King? [Confused]

so spoil it please! [Smile]
 
Posted by Legion Tracker on :
 
Sun Emperor is in it from the beginning. Didn't see Cosmic King, though.
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by superboymddjr:
huh? Questor and Immortus are now bad guys?!?! oh not a good sign.

Questor & Immortus are new characters so they've never been good guys.
Are you confusing them with someone else?
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Legion Tracker:
Sun Emperor is in it from the beginning. Didn't see Cosmic King, though.

That's Sun Killer.
Sun Emperor has yet to appear.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
Questor was the old character I believe the one with teleporting power....wore blue uniform and red cape...blonde hair...chicken out most of time...movie star...

Immortus --- one of the Wanderers....or....Taurus Gang? cn't remember. heh.
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
Questar was the blond guy with the tassles & Immorto was the guy from the Wanderers.
Different from the two that appear in this issue.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
ah....those spellings almost look familar to me. thanks for the correction. I have to wait til the first week of April to get that book. sigh.
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
I must say the coloring by Javier Mena is a vast improvement over Hi-Fi's ham-fisted pallete in the regular book, IMO.
The hues were subtle when called for and vivid when called for.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
How many can Saturn Queen control at one time?
The more she controls, the less complete her control or what?
She's gotta hit a wall of some sort, sooner or later.
 
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
 
I think there's a few hints at the rock that Immortus is actually General Immortus transplanted into a robot body.
 
Posted by jimgallagher on :
 
I didn't much care for the issue, art or story. Probably wouldn't have bought it, except my CBS owner pulled it for me. Agreed that the characters are unsympathetic. And since when is the Hunter's tracking skill a spaceworthy super power? Why didn't they just kidnap Dawnstar and use her? She's zooming around out there in space on her own somewhere.

I don't care for teleporting characters either. Too deus ex machina. And why would SQ recruit Micro Lad anyway? He's pretty useless as villains go.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
While his powers were potentially deadly (since he could zip into someone's body and give them a fatal stroke, which would wipe out big guns like Ultra Boy or Element Lad pretty easily), I don't really get why Micro Lad was ever hanging around with the LSV anyway.

He's not a bank robber or a world-conquerer, he's an Imskian separatist. Any group that doesn't have 'free Imsk from the evil clutches of the United Planets' really has nothing to offer him, by way of advancing his agenda.

It felt like his only reason to be a part of the LSV is so that they could have an evil Shrinking Violet to hang with the evil Saturn Girl, the evil Chameleon Boy, the evil Sun Boy, the evil Cosmic Boy, the evil Lightning Lad, etc, etc.

Sure, maybe he hung out with them to get money, to then channel to the Imskian underground, but he still kinda feels like he was just thrown in there as another warm body...
 
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Set:
While his powers were potentially deadly (since he could zip into someone's body and give them a fatal stroke, which would wipe out big guns like Ultra Boy or Element Lad pretty easily), I don't really get why Micro Lad was ever hanging around with the LSV anyway.

He's not a bank robber or a world-conquerer, he's an Imskian separatist. Any group that doesn't have 'free Imsk from the evil clutches of the United Planets' really has nothing to offer him, by way of advancing his agenda.

I don't know, the Levitz depictions of him always showed him with a cruel streak. I remember a lot of gleeful sneering at Violet's condition. While he may have hid behind his cause, I think he was in it because he was rotten and it gave him an excuse. The first time he was recruited by Zymyr he certainly didn't hesitate to take the LSV up on their offer.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
If BouncingBear is to be believed, and I have no reason to doubt him, Micro Lad was included so that there could be someone killed without too many fans having a fit.
 
Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller on :
 
I think Micro Lad generally hung around the LSV because their agenda was killing Legionnaires, and he wanted to get Shrinking Violet.

I thought the new LSV seemed very bad-assed, and look forward to seeing upcoming developments in this story. I liked the nods to prior continuity (e.g., the off-handed mention of Zuun as a source for the robot, the inclusion of a Sklarian raider).

It took me a while to remember why Saturn Queen's imprisonment wasn't really holding. They should have led off the issue with a panel or two reminding us of the blue creature's passage affecting her.
 
Posted by Iam Legion on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
If BouncingBear is to be believed, and I have no reason to doubt him, Micro Lad was included so that there could be someone killed without too many fans having a fit.

Yes, because Gods forbid we should have an issue without a major disastor or the gratutitous death of a secondary (or even tertiary) character. But if ssome one had to go it might as well be him. At least he died with a halfway decent costume.
 
Posted by Mediocre Boy on :
 
Questor reminded me somewhat of the Coluan villain from the ReBoot days called Big Brain (at least I think that was his name). Y'know, leader of a small gang that tried to take over Winath just prior to Ayla being designated her world's Legion representative?

Anybody else agree?
 
Posted by Set on :
 
So it's funny, after making my comment about Micro Lad having been used oddly in the past, I just got this special and the first (and only) words out of his mouth are about how he's all about Imskian liberation!

I laughed to see that, since it was like Paul had read my mind.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
How many can Saturn Queen control at one time?
The more she controls, the less complete her control or what?
She's gotta hit a wall of some sort, sooner or later.

Oh.
She's augmented by the blue baby.
As are the rest, when they need to be.
sigh

I thought it was funny that SQ does all this computer erasing and stuff to hide her and the others involvement and escape from GT, and the first conclusion Jo makes when he gets there is that that things started where SQ was held.
Paul has decided not to hide Jo's intelligence any longer, I guess.

The Rock of Eternity has been blown up before, hasn't it?
Won't it's magical field pull it back together?
If not, since all of the pieces are right there, won't someone just put them back together, like before?
Where's Thunder in all this?
There's one Rock for all the realities, right?
gads

And, I bet Li is one of those immortal 'wisdom' people.
The blue baby is Darkseid using the High Father idea from Saga?

I liked the art but the story is kind of flat but it could get better.
I'm hoping.
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
[Mad] My shop didn't put this issue in my bag for me and then it sold out before I could buy it off the shelf! [Mad]

You'd think that since I've got LSH and Adventure on my pull, they'd put this one in there too. But nooooo.

Now I just have to hope they get some more copies in in the next few weeks. Very annoyed!
 
Posted by jimgallagher on :
 
I could mail you one, Blacula, but if you're in Australia maybe that could take weeks too?
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
Thanks for the offer Jim but you're right - mailing things to the most isolated capital city in the world (Perth) does tend to take a while. Don't worry - they'll hopefully get the issue in next week or the one after. If not - I may come begging. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by jimgallagher on :
 
You'd be welcome to my copy. I wasn't too crazy about it.


I thought Canberra was the capital of Australia.
 
Posted by EmeraldEmpress on :
 
I have liked very much the super-villains special.
Francis Portela's art is very good.
With Sarya dead (for now..) Saturn Queen has turned into my favorite villain.
I suppose that with so many people super villains, all the possible legionnaires were needed, to attack them.
Back to action.....Duplicate Girl, Night Girl, Bouncing Boy, Chamaleon Girl, XS, Black Witch, Blok, Matter Eater Lad, Mon-El, Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad.
And probably new legionnarios of the academy.
 
Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller on :
 
Jim, Perth is the capital of its state (Western Australia), not of its nation.
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
^ [Yes]
 
Posted by EmeraldEmpress on :
 
In agreement with this aids many former villains will join the team soon....


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Posted by Bicycle Repair Man on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EmeraldEmpress:
In agreement with this aids many former villains will join the team soon....


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Hmmm ... most of the characters in that ad/pinup didn't appear in LSV # 1 ... I wonder how many will show up over the course of the storyline in LSH? (and will Adventure tie in to this story at all?)

I notice, at the lower-right of the pinup (to the right of Tyr) a figure that looks (at least to me) like Terrus. IIRC, Terrus only ever appeared in the LSV story that launched the LSH Baxter title back in the 1980s (the story in which the LSV took over Orando, and Karate Kid and Nemesis Kid died). IIRC, Terrus was never shown doing much of anything; we never found out if he even had any super-powers. Anybody know anything more about him?
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
I'm pretty sure that in his Who's Who entry, Terrus' power was described kinda like Terra's- able to move & manipulate rock and earth.
IIRC, he also appeared in Legion of 3 Worlds, where he was punched by Blok and turned into a swarm of insects.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Actually Terrus didn't have a Who's Who entry!
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
Hmmm... now I'm wondering where I read about his powers??
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Possibly cmk's help file? As I recall Chaim made up a backstory for him to go in it.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
The only thing I remember Terrus doing was making a small asteroid / bit of space debris explode near a Legionnaire (Dawnstar?), stunning them, but he did this by pushing a button, suggesting that he planted an explosive there, and wasn't using any sort of super-power.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
He really is such a bizarrely enigmatic character. While the other original character in the LSV War story (Zymyr) plays a major role, Terrus is just sort of there, and never really does anything. I always figured Levitz must have some additional plan for him that never materialized, but...
 
Posted by The Flying Fool on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Set:
The only thing I remember Terrus doing was making a small asteroid / bit of space debris explode near a Legionnaire (Dawnstar?), stunning them, but he did this by pushing a button, suggesting that he planted an explosive there, and wasn't using any sort of super-power.

It was a group of Wildfire, Dawnstar, Mon-El. They were in an asteroid belt. Terrus pushes a button and a group of asteroids explode.

He might have some form of control over earth matter because the debris forms a stream and start streaking directly towards the Legion's ship, an action that didn't look all that natural given the art depiction.
 
Posted by Glen Cadigan on :
 
When I interviewed Paul Levitz way back when for The Legion Companion, he had this to say about Terrus:

"Terrus might've been a modernization of a later generation of Scarecrow. If I was naming him Terrus, maybe it had something to do with terror."

This was after I reminded him that his costume looked like that of Scarecrow.

On an unrelated note, that ad has Cosmic King using magnetic powers, which as everyone here should know, is inaccurate. It was established way back in the LSVs first appearance in Superman # 147 (Aug. 1961) that he has transmutation abilities similar to those of Element Lad, although he comes from Venus. Why that was the case instead of the obvious alternative is something that you'd have to ask either Jerry Siegel or Mort Weisinger about. Myself, I think that they just made a mistake, and then stuck with it.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Flying Fool:
It was a group of Wildfire, Dawnstar, Mon-El. They were in an asteroid belt. Terrus pushes a button and a group of asteroids explode.

He might have some form of control over earth matter because the debris forms a stream and start streaking directly towards the Legion's ship, an action that didn't look all that natural given the art depiction.

I do vaguely remember that, but I was never sure at the time whether that was forced perspective (us just seeing the asteroids headed towards the ship, and not the ones heading in various other directions) or some sort of gravity manipulating / magnetic bomb (causing the debris to be attracted to the ship).

It never occured to me, at the time, that he was supposed to have super-powers, but it totally makes sense, in retrospect, that he'd use explosives to blast rocks into smaller chunks that he could manipulate with his powers...
 
Posted by The Flying Fool on :
 
Was Ol-Vir seen in this? Or is he even still around?

Been reading the last story arc with the LSV, with Orando and Karate Kid, coupled with his initial appearance in Great Darkness, I seem to like this brat kid. Although by now, he may not be a kid anymore.......
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Ol-Vir was turned to dust in the Validus-origin annual.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
Wasn't Ol-Vir active in Lo3W?

Then again, so were Validus Ranzz, Emerald Sarya, reformed Mordru and blowed-up Tharok, so that doesn't necessarily mean anything...
 
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
 
I always thought Terrus was a non-powered take on a 30th century Scarecrow-type baddie, with the "Terrus" being synonymous with "Terror" not "Terra", but I can't for the life of me figure out if I read that somewhere or just came up with it on my own.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
Since he's never been seen without his freaky scarecrow mask, it would be amusing to have 'Terrus' not always be the same person, but a small group of low-powered villains with different powers. One 'Terrus' might be seen with earth-manipulation powers (clearly limited, compared to other characters, since he had to blow up that asteroid to move the fragments, and couldn't just move the entire thing as someone like Cosmic Boy or Ultra Boy would have), another with fear-generating emotion control, another with a bunch of remote-controlled machines / traps / robots, etc.

That could be a fun way to give oneself a reputation as having all sorts of powers...
 
Posted by The Flying Fool on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
Ol-Vir was turned to dust in the Validus-origin annual.

Oy vey, Ol-Vir. That figures. Get to like him and they just kill him off.

Although like Set mentioned, I seem to recall him in 3 Worlds, but there was so much temporal machinations going on, Lightning Lord knows if that was the real one or not....
 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
So much for drawing the line at $2.99. This $4.99 issue was pretty light on content. I'm not a big fan of specials that are just designed to set up or preview upcoming stories. That said, the LSV lineup is a good one, Saturn Queen is being taken to a whole new level of crazy and evil, and Portela's art was solid.
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
Great art, and I enjoyed the new characters, but Saturn Queen was a bit too "Emerald Empress crazy" for my taste.

I guess I'm just missing her as Mrs. Tenzil Kem... no hope of that now. She's a grade-A nutjob spouting utter psychobabble.
 
Posted by Tempest on :
 
I got this, surprise surprise.

I like Saturn Queen, why I picked this up. Prefer has a calm intellect type, passionate psycho not so much.

But overall, I enjoyed it.
 
Posted by Faraway Lad on :
 
Saturn Queen was always one of my favourite villains but I’m not so sure I like this uber cold killer so much. Maybe it’s because I always remember her as capable of being reformed (ie influenced by the rings of Saturn, a Kiss from Superman etc)
Still have to admit I liked this issue.
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
^Yeah, Far, that's about where I am with this too! I don't really want Saturn Queen to take the place of Levitz' badass (and CRAZYass) Sarya.

Still, it was a good read and nice setup for stuff to come, with some HOT art!
 
Posted by jimgallagher on :
 
When did a kiss from Superman cure SQ?
 
Posted by jdpinball on :
 
I think a kiss from Superman cures all
 
Posted by Set on :
 
In retrospect, Saturn Queen as devoted flunky of the blue flame thingie makes her seem less 'scary' and more 'pathetic.'

She might be 'leading' the team, but since she's clearly taking orders herself, in a wide-eyed worshipful way, she's less the Bond Villain, and more the Bond Villain's duped girlfriend.

Boring.

Not what I want to see in the leader of the LSV, a weak-willed simpering servant of someone else. Even when Sarya let Tharok call the shots, she was never a sycophant or a flunky.

I guess it's in-character with her Lo3W appearance, where she was such a squeeing Superboy-Prime fangirl that she was constantly staring at him like she was a groupie.

[ March 24, 2011, 09:39 AM: Message edited by: Set ]
 
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
 
But I think the implication is that the Blue Phantom altered her in some way and made her subservient. Ironically, she's not a willing servant to it any more than the LSV are to her. I expect she'll be extremely POed come the end of this arc.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Hackett:
But I think the implication is that the Blue Phantom altered her in some way and made her subservient. Ironically, she's not a willing servant to it any more than the LSV are to her. I expect she'll be extremely POed come the end of this arc.

From your lips (keyboard) to Pauls ears (eyes)!

That would be kind of hot, the LSH fighting the blue whateveritis, and it having to bend all of it's energies to fighting them, and Saturn Queen breaking free and saying, "WTH? Nobody makes *me* a puppet!" and directing the remaining LSV to *also* attack the blue dude...

Not because she's pro-Legion, but because she's anti-being-used-like-a-sock. [Smile]

Kinda reminiscent of that scene in Walt Simonson's Thor run, where Loki teams up with Odin and Thor against Surtr, not because he likes Odin or Thor, but because he's not gonna let *someone else* beat them and destroy Asgard. I loved that scene (and that Loki sure as heck didn't turn into a 'good guy' because of it!), and would love to see that sort of thing done well with the LSV here.
 
Posted by Faraway Lad on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MLLASH:
^Yeah, Far, that's about where I am with this too! I don't really want Saturn Queen to take the place of Levitz' badass (and CRAZYass) Sarya.

Still, it was a good read and nice setup for stuff to come, with some HOT art!

I like the artwork as well Lash. And I think you’ve put your finger on what’s been bugging me about this version of SQ, her characterisation is coming across as the same as Crazy Emerald Empress. I for one think they are and should be different.
 
Posted by Faraway Lad on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jimgallagher:
When did a kiss from Superman cure SQ?

Jim I could be making that up I’m posting without referring to the comics.

Just put it down to my old age. [Wink]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
If it didn't actually happen, it should have!
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
I am picturing Superman seated at a booth labeled "Super-Kissing Booth"... Lana and Lois stand to the side, snarking away at the lineup of beauties waiting for their Kryptonian kiss.

In that line-up are Saturn Queen, Saturn Woman, Lori Lemaris, lots of other LL-initial chicks, and Bizarro Supergirl!
 
Posted by jimgallagher on :
 
And me! Don't forget me! I'd stand in line all day to kiss the Christopher Reeve version of Superman. Or Kirk Allyn for that matter.

[ March 25, 2011, 08:28 PM: Message edited by: jimgallagher ]
 
Posted by jimgallagher on :
 
I see my thread-killing abilities are as potent as ever. Super-sigh.
 
Posted by cleome on :
 
Finally had a chance to pick this up late last week and give it a thorough read.

I really wish every comic could have this page count. Then there'd be time for both character insight and exploding eye-candy. Everyone could be happy.

And, no, I don't expect villains to be sympathetic, at least not all the time. Especially not in a comic that showcases villains and leaves the heroes as supporting cast.

I was unaware until some other comments in this thread that SQ's current personality and power-boost is supposed to come entirely from the blue flame. I must have missed something in previous issues that made that clear. Time to re-read, I guess.
 
Posted by cleome on :
 
P.S.- I have now killed more threads than jimgallagher.

Go me. [tease]
 
Posted by Set on :
 
I super-kiss life back into this thread!

So, Immortus. Is he General Immortus?

Darkseid being pulled from the 20th century made for an amazing big bad revival.

R'as al-Ghul was a terrible disappointment, by comparison.

If Immortus is the 1000 year later incarnation of General Immortus (who has been established to have been 3000 ish years old or more in the 20th century, so it's not terribly unlikely that he's managed to make it one more millenium), I think I prefer him not being fluffed up quite as much as al-Ghul (unsuccessfully, IMO) was. So it's probably better for him to be a rank and file member of the LSV, and not some shadowy mastermind (who wouldn't necessarily live up to his hype).

It's as if he's devoted so much of his energies and ambition to simply *surviving* that he's no longer really as world-shaking a threat as a less self-preservation-minded super-villain might be.

I'm alternately intrigued by a possible 20th century tie, and relieved that, if so, it's not a dominant one that detracts from the already rich and well-populated 31st century setting.

The Legion certainly doesn't *need* 20th century elements, but I'm not adverse to subtle ones, that might make sense (as General Immortus, already having possibly lasted 3000 years, without being terribly signficant, banging around 1000 years later, and still not being exactly a Tier-1 threat, does).

[ May 20, 2011, 03:03 AM: Message edited by: Set ]
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
For some reason, my mind went to General Immortus as soon as the new Immortus was introduced. It seemed a strange name for a killer robot unless there was a deeper reason behind it.

Count me in as a huge NON-FAN of that development if it comes to pass though. I hate all 21st century elements in my Legion stories (except Superboy, Supergirl and the Brainiac line).

I'm one of those who think that the GDS is hugely over-rated though so take my opinion for what it's worth.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blacula: I'm one of those who think that the GDS is hugely over-rated though so take my opinion for what it's worth.
I like it for what it was (although the ending was limp), but don't care for the precedent it set, where later storylines tried to recapture that lightning, and failed horribly.

Same with Crisis on Infinite Earths, really. I loved it at the time, but wow golly, did it totally screw things up for decades, and set off a cavalcade of suck that *still* hasn't ended...

That's a comics thing tho. The Death of Phoenix was hot patooties, and so it's been repeated ad nauseum for decades. The Judas Contract was tres chic, and now it's almost a requirement for someone to be a traitor, and it's even announced before the comic starts (as with Avengers Academy) that someone's gonna be 'the Terra.'

'Oh, this worked once! Let's plough it into the ground and kill it with repetition!'
 
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Set:
I super-kiss life back into this thread!

So, Immortus. Is he General Immortus?

Hey, I said that back on page 2!


[Mad] [No] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cleome on :
 
[snip]

quote:
Originally posted by Blacula:


...Count me in as a huge NON-FAN of that development if it comes to pass though. I hate all 21st century elements in my Legion stories (except Superboy, Supergirl and the Brainiac line).

So much word to this. I'm really tired of how this hog-ties the writers. Can we please just let the characters and environment stand on their own? Pretty please?

quote:
I'm one of those who think that the GDS is hugely over-rated though so take my opinion for what it's worth.

"The Universo Project" was more to my liking. A tight focus on the less punch-and-hit characters, and a more compelling villain than Darkseid. So I didn't care that it had fewer artsy bells and whistles than GDS. It's been so long since I've read any of this stuff, though. I don't know how it's held up...

[ May 20, 2011, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: cleome ]
 
Posted by cleome on :
 
[snip]

quote:
Originally posted by Set:


...'Oh, this worked once! Let's plough it into the ground and kill it with repetition!'

Yup.

I can never forgive myself for buying Original Crisis. It only encouraged them.

[No]
 
Posted by Set on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Hackett:
quote:
Originally posted by Set:
So, Immortus. Is he General Immortus?

Hey, I said that back on page 2!
Option 1; That was ages ago! We here at Short Attention Span Theatre have already moved on, Precognition Lad!

Option 2; You were just ahead of your time. You have to wait for the right moment to spring these notions!
 
Posted by Emily Sivana on :
 
I think Immortus could be a compelling villain for the Legion. If he finally found his immortality, I wonder what his goals are now. Power over others is obvious, but he could go about it in a number of ways and there are so many things he could exploit to his benefit.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Emily Sivana:
[QB] I think Immortus could be a compelling villain for the Legion. If he finally found his immortality, I wonder what his goals are now.

With the original 'General' appellation, it would make sense that conquering at least a world, if not a chunk of the surrounding systems, would be a goal.

Given their love of cyborging their warriors up, and their warlike proclivities, this guy seems well-suited to taking over Khund space, and, if he's got any tactical acumen (as 'General' would suggest), perhaps forging them into a far more effective threat than ever before...
 


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