Now we know what Chris B. is up to. Awesome!
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
I am definitely looking forward to this! (unless they give WILDFIRE Red Tornado's body) I hope this will settle a lot of continuity questions about this Legion. The good thing (hopefully) about this origin is that everyone will be in agreement about the LSH connection to Superboy(man) so we won't have to deal with any more reboots!
Posted by Haggard Lad on :
Awesome! I love that we're getting two Legion ongoings and a mini right out of the gate in this "New 52" DC revamp.
I'm glad Levitz is getting another crack at doing a Secret Origin story. The one he did in Adventure Comics recently was okay, but I wasn't sure it accomplished the goal of helping new readers understand Legion history.
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
Here I was worried when Paul got chopped down to 1 series after the relaunch. Now come October he's got THREE!
Posted by Set on :
Wow, another new Legion offering!
Adventure kind of just finished something similar, but this could neat, since it sounds it will deal with more background stuff, like how the UP formed, and not necessarily be all 'untold tales of the Legion.'
The cover picture, of Tinya falling out of some dimensional rift, suggests that we might finally learn *something* about Bgtzl, other than that it lacks vowels...
Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller on :
Aw, man, I thought I might be able to be the one breaking the news here.
I am beyond pumped for this.
Posted by MLLASH on :
I'm concerned it's going to cut the Super-family OUT of the LSH again. Posted by Reboot on :
...uh, that's postboot Cos' costume. Other than SW6, has any preboot/retroboot version of him ever been shown wearing that?
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
quote:Originally posted by Reboot: ...uh, that's postboot Cos' costume. Other than SW6, has any preboot/retroboot version of him ever been shown wearing that?
Wasn't there a Who's Who or something with the founders wearing the Sprouse designs when the team was founded, based on the original concept for Legionnaires as retelling stories from the Legion's early days in Glorithverse continuity? Bit of a precedent for this...
Posted by razsolo on :
I am cautiously optimistic about this one...I could really live without ever seeing again the story of Garth, Imra and Cos saving RJ Brande. But I would love to see some more stories from just AFTER that point, especially once Lu and Tinya join. I don't think I've ever really seen a story with just those first five Legionnaires.
Posted by Jerry on :
Yay! We deserve this. As Legion fans we've hung on through many switches in reality, reboots, and retcons. Too often, we haven't been give clear explanations of what past events are in or out.
The DC relaunch apparently will be making changes in the Superman/Superboy back story just a short time after we've been given the most recent alterations to that story. It looks like this series is going to address the important changes to the team's origins right off the bat with the relaunch. Good move.
Posted by Lone Wolf Legionnaire on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: I'm concerned it's going to cut the Super-family OUT of the LSH again.
I do hope they keep Kal-El a part of the Legion's history, for he is the foundation on which the Legion was built!
Posted by razsolo on :
I have often thought it would be kind of interesting if the Legion were overtly inspired by SuperGIRL rather than Superman-when-he-was-a-kid-but-not-actually-calling-himself-Superboy-for-legal-reasons.
For one thing, who ISN'T inspired by Superman? He's really DC's Captain America in that respect, the moral epitome of the superhero set. So the fact that he would be the Legion's influence in itself isn't really such a big deal IMO.
Post-Crisis though, Clark only really became a hero as an adult. Kara on the other hand has always been SuperGIRL, not SuperWOMAN; and it would be kind of cool if a bunch of teens took their cue from her rather than her older cousin.
It would also add something extra to the Brainy/Kara relationship, and I personally think Kara has always benefitted more from being with the Legion than Clark ever did anyway. I'm not saying Clark shouldn't be IN the Legion, I just think it would be cool if SHE was their inspiration and he was just her cousin who was a really cool guy.
Thoughts?
Posted by Silver Age Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by razsolo: I am cautiously optimistic about this one...I could really live without ever seeing again the story of Garth, Imra and Cos saving RJ Brande. But I would love to see some more stories from just AFTER that point, especially once Lu and Tinya join. I don't think I've ever really seen a story with just those first five Legionnaires.
Yes. I don't want to be negative about a Legion book but there is so much untold - the first year with TG, PG, IK etc for example Lyle joining the Legion has never been told properly. Also the post Magic Wars x Year Gap. Another telling of the origin story seems superfluous by comparison.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
quote:Originally posted by Reboot: ...uh, that's postboot Cos' costume. Other than SW6, has any preboot/retroboot version of him ever been shown wearing that?
Wasn't there a Who's Who or something with the founders wearing the Sprouse designs when the team was founded, based on the original concept for Legionnaires as retelling stories from the Legion's early days in Glorithverse continuity? Bit of a precedent for this...
Tinya also seems to appear on the cover, and that costume is something I've never seen before.
Maybe it's just an art error?
Cover art appears to be Tom Feister and Tony Harris, who also did cover art for the Legion series a while back (Dream Crime and the Darkseid arc after, if I remember right).
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Tinya also seems to appear on the cover, and that costume is something I've never seen before.
I was assuming those were civvies, but I dunno.
Posted by Reboot on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Cover art appears to be Tom Feister and Tony Harris, who also did cover art for the Legion series a while back (Dream Crime and the Darkseid arc after, if I remember right).
Yeah, they also screwed up and did a version of the The Legion #22 cover with Apparition rather than Dreamer, but that wasn't released with the solicits. I doubt Tom F going to his old files for reference by mistake (and coming from a point mechana switched Cos to blue rather than lilac!) would get to the point of an official press release without being corrected.
Posted by jimgallagher on :
I'm not crazy about the cover. Either the art style or the composition. And Cosmic Boy should be in pink dammit.
I love Razsolo's idea about making Supergirl the inspiration for LSH. Give her a chance to shine with the Legion for a change instead of Superboy I say.
Posted by Gorilla Nebula on :
I agree the cover is quite dull, with washed out colors, and not very well drawn. I dunno. it looks so lame compared to Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy covers.
Posted by Para-Dox on :
quote:Originally posted by razsolo: I have often thought it would be kind of interesting if the Legion were overtly inspired by SuperGIRL rather than Superman-when-he-was-a-kid-but-not-actually-calling-himself-Superboy-for-legal-reasons.
For one thing, who ISN'T inspired by Superman? He's really DC's Captain America in that respect, the moral epitome of the superhero set. So the fact that he would be the Legion's influence in itself isn't really such a big deal IMO.
Post-Crisis though, Clark only really became a hero as an adult. Kara on the other hand has always been SuperGIRL, not SuperWOMAN; and it would be kind of cool if a bunch of teens took their cue from her rather than her older cousin.
It would also add something extra to the Brainy/Kara relationship, and I personally think Kara has always benefitted more from being with the Legion than Clark ever did anyway. I'm not saying Clark shouldn't be IN the Legion, I just think it would be cool if SHE was their inspiration and he was just her cousin who was a really cool guy.
Thoughts?
Legion were inspired by Supergirl as explicitly stated when they drew up the consitution. Supergirl never gets her due though. You saw the freak outs that happened when it was dared suggested she even joined before him.
Posted by Set on :
I'm actually kind of excited that Tinya is on the first cover. That suggests that we aren't just going to see take five on the 'founders save Brande' storyline, but maybe see some of the stuff that happened off-screen, such as the Legion's first encounters / admissions of Tinya, Lu, etc.
Checking Wiki, it looks like the first appearances of Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Colossal Boy, Invisible Kid, Chameleon Boy and Star Boy all happened 'off-screen,' as they were already members when introduced.
That's a lot of untold history!
Plus there's always room for someone to get shoved in after-the-fact, like Kid Quantum or whatever. Untold tales of Legionnaires that we may not have known existed!
Posted by jimgallagher on :
There was an abbreviated meeting with Triplicate Girl and Phantom Girl in that Superboy 80 page giant that was devoted to the LSH, but there's certainly a lot of room for expansion.
Posted by Pov on :
I haven't seen any responses to Saturday's Levitz interview posted on Newsarama about LSH:SO... seems to address some of the points raised here. I like that Click Here For A Spoilerthe first Legionnaire we're going to see is a young Brainy, and the three founders aren't even going to speak in the first issue. Posted by razsolo on :
Click Here For A SpoilerHmm...well it's cool that Legionnaires other than the founders will be featured, but Brainy?? We don't see enough of him already? :\ Posted by Silver Age Lad on :
"Action Comics, which focuses on Superman's early superhero career, depicts a "younger, more brooding" Man of Steel adjusting to his adopted homeworld. His powers are still in development at this point, as he "can leap tall buildings but can't fly in space." The series, written by Grant Morrison and illustrated by Rags Morales, will also show the evolution of his costume from jeans and work boots to Kryptonian armor."
So five years before current Superman stories Kal-El didn't have a costume and couldn't fly. Looks bad for Superboy being part of the Legion's history.
Posted by Gorilla Nebula on :
Yes, and Supergirl has just landed on Earth (again). No LSH or Brainiac 5 for her. Can I return last year's Supergirl Annual to DC for a refund? Didn't DC decide that the LSH wasn't popular enough w/out the Super-cousins connections? Wasn't that the point of bringing back the Johns/Lightning Saga/"original" team? I'm confused.
Posted by Para-Dox on :
quote:Originally posted by Gorilla Nebula: Yes, and Supergirl has just landed on Earth (again). No LSH or Brainiac 5 for her. Can I return last year's Supergirl Annual to DC for a refund? Didn't DC decide that the LSH wasn't popular enough w/out the Super-cousins connections? Wasn't that the point of bringing back the Johns/Lightning Saga/"original" team? I'm confused.
Heck no. That is a classic Supergirl story!
Posted by Mr. Kayak on :
quote:Originally posted by Silver Age Lad: So five years before current Superman stories Kal-El didn't have a costume and couldn't fly. Looks bad for Superboy being part of the Legion's history.
[ July 19, 2011, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Mr. Kayak ]
Posted by the Hermit on :
quote:Originally posted by Gorilla Nebula: Yes, and Supergirl has just landed on Earth (again). No LSH or Brainiac 5 for her. Can I return last year's Supergirl Annual to DC for a refund? Didn't DC decide that the LSH wasn't popular enough w/out the Super-cousins connections? Wasn't that the point of bringing back the Johns/Lightning Saga/"original" team? I'm confused.
Posted by the Hermit on :
quote:Originally posted by Gorilla Nebula: Yes, and Supergirl has just landed on Earth (again). No LSH or Brainiac 5 for her. Can I return last year's Supergirl Annual to DC for a refund? Didn't DC decide that the LSH wasn't popular enough w/out the Super-cousins connections? Wasn't that the point of bringing back the Johns/Lightning Saga/"original" team? I'm confused.
No reason to be confused. Just think of it this way: TPTB at DC have realized that there is only room for one major comic company in the 21st century and that company is Marvel, so they are doing everything in their power to alienate their readers. Stan Lee probably promised them all a job once they've accomplished their mission.
Posted by Emily Sivana on :
Remember that Marvel is now owned by the Disney company, who spent $4 billion for those characters and franchises. They bought the company because of the profitable movies and the fact that Marvel appeals to boys. Disney is already managing Marvel's merchandise and rumors of theme park rides abound (I created a thread about this topic recently). They intend to get their money's worth from Marvel.
DC Comics is in the hands of Time-Warner, which with the exception of the Batman franchise has been having difficulty with it's super-hero movies.
[ July 19, 2011, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: Emily Sivana ]
Posted by lil'rhino on :
If this series is not gonna focus as much on the three founders, then why are they hogging up the covers?
Posted by Iam Legion on :
Basing this on the solisitations, the interviews where it is stated that the series is going to be more about 'Secret' than 'Origin' and the non-answers I have recieved on a couple of boards from the only ones actually involved in the project in any way, what I want to know is: Since the entire series is to add another 'untold story' rather than to clarify what is or is not out of continuity for this latest version of the Legion, then why is it being solisited as 'Secret Origin'? Why not something more honest? How about 'More un-needed, added on Cr@p in hopes of sucking more money out of the loyal fans and confusing the *New Readers* that we clain we are doing this for in the first place'? I believe that would be closer to accurate.
Posted by Legion Tracker on :
IL, I'm sure they intend to be accurate, but they're not allowed to say "cr@p" and "suck" in the solicits.
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