Jeepers! I can't wait to see the part of the story where they replace his skeleton with adamantium inertron! Posted by Candlelight on :
DC's changed everyone, including all of their A-listers, so why not update/change some of the Legionnaires? We're lucky it's so few of them, so far, anyway.
I love Pete Woods art. Brin is fierce and handsome. I can't wait to read the story. Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I don't know if I'll pick this up. I barely have chance to look through the books now that my hours at the store are shortened
Posted by cleome46 on :
Points for Scientist Mom. That's a nice change, though she'll probably end up Ev0L! and/or dead.
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
What?? A Legionnaire's history/origin/timeline/species/gender/planet of origin/hat size/DNA has been changed??
Must be Tuesday... Posted by lowercase mllash on :
Brin knows criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot. If only he would get a sign of what direction he should go in with his crime-fighting... *cue timber wolf of space crashing through space-window*
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
^ That "one origin fits all" could work for a lot of superheroes.
Posted by Set on :
quote:Originally posted by cleome46: Points for Scientist Mom. That's a nice change
Ooh, I like the sound of that!
Getting super-powers from something your *mom* did was good enough for Achilles (and Baldar!), it should be good enough for anyone!
Posted by Leather Wolf on :
I will definitely get my hands on this issue since Timber Wolf has always been my favorite legionnaire. At least we now know how Brin recovered from those bullet holes so easily a couple of issues back. That incident had really puzzled me at the time.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Wanna bet he has a 31st Century butler who just happens to be the descendant of Alfred Pennyworth?
And maybe he calls his ride the wolfmobile...
Although I wouldn't mind if they make his origin/family life a bit happier than it used to be.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Seriously... turning Timber Wolf into a combo of Batman and Wolverine may be the jeenyus move that finally gets us half a dozen Legion-related books!
Posted by Candlelight on :
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Seriously... turning Timber Wolf into a combo of Batman and Wolverine may be the jeenyus move that finally gets us half a dozen Legion-related books!
The Howling LSH Wolf Pack; The Romantic LSH Pack Mates; Legion Cubs in Training; Shades of Werelings; etc..
Posted by Set on :
Ooh, in the vein of Batman Incorporated, there'll be a Timber Wolf, a Timber Rattlesnake, the surprisingly flexible Limber Wolf, and, of course, everybody's favorite redheaded lycanthrope Ginger Wolf...
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by Set: Ooh, in the vein of Batman Incorporated, there'll be a Timber Wolf, a Timber Rattlesnake, the surprisingly flexible Limber Wolf, and, of course, everybody's favorite redheaded lycanthrope Ginger Wolf...
In other words, a positive side to this development. Posted by Leather Wolf on :
Long live the Legion! If that's the case.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
As long as they don't make Brin half-Cargggite to explain how he can appear in so many books simultaneously. (Poor Duplicate Damsel, that's HER shtick!)
Posted by Blacula on :
^ And Phantom Girl's. And Phase's. And Apparition's. Posted by Korbal on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: As long as they don't make Brin half-Cargggite to explain how he can appear in so many books simultaneously. (Poor Duplicate Damsel, that's HER shtick!)
Perhaps they wouldn't have to--after all Zoon has three suns too!
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Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Hmm... definitely can't say I prefer this T Wolf origin to the original, but I suppose it could have been worse. Particularly. Annoyed that they didn't name his opposite number "Karth Arn" as a tribute to the original version
Posted by Jerry on :
Yep, "it could have been worse" pretty much sums up my reaction the story.
Posted by Leather Wolf on :
I didn't really mind the origin story for Timber Wolf per se except I wish it would have actually included a scene of Timber Wolf joining the Legion and showed some of the other Legionnaires to tie this book in with the other Legion title. It seems DeFalco is more interested in connecting Legion Lost with the Teen Titans than the Legion. Finally on the bio page I was disappointed that it didn't list T-Wolf's appearance (albeit in cameo) in Legion #8 but listed appearances in Superboy and Teen Titans. He still is a legionnaire isn't he?
Posted by The Man From Cargg on :
quote:Originally posted by Jerry: Yep, "it could have been worse" pretty much sums up my reaction the story.
Which begs the question, "why make changes if they are not an improvement". I much prefer the "I thought I was an android" alienation theme to revenge motivated drivel.
Posted by Mykey3000 on :
Ouch. I'm starting to dislike this title. If you make the mistake of buying this #0 book, please note the amateurish dialog. There isn't even a payoff at the end with a Legion appearance, or anything that harkens back to his historical first appearances--a huge disppointment. Why oh why didn't he do Tellus??
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
We did get a bizarre Captain Atom allusion, though I'm not sure if it was supposed to be significant.
Posted by EmeraldEmpress on :
After reading this new origin of Timber Wolf, I see that DC is cheating the fans. And we are before another concealed reboot. From Secret origins up to these zero spotlights, everything indicates that many things have changed and other more were changing... For that they were not be honest and began of zero as the Teen Titans or Justice League? The next.....Brainiac 5 origins....
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
I don't mind minor changes BUT...this wasn't minor.
At first I thought it was explaining how the mother died...but then I realized it was a brand new origin.
Don't love it but don't mind it either. I recently read his original origin and I think it could've been updated.
I would've like to see Legion involvement though. But that may be the follow up Blade Runner type android story where the Legion gets involved. Posted by cleome46 on :
Honestly, having seen this story almost in its entirely now, I'm not regretting choosing to blow my handful of extra cash on remaindered music instead.
The art looked pretty, yes. But the story was padded, contrived even for "just a superhero story" and so by-the-numbers that I wanted to scream.
And next we're getting a story about Brainiac 5.
Yeah, I think I'll just go paw through the CD remainder bins on Half dot com some more. Sorry, Legion.
(Honestly, cartoon villain Mar Londo was more subtle, nuanced and interesting than anyone in this weak-tea origin story.)
[ September 16, 2012, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: cleome46 ]
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
It was pretty padded, though not half-bad for an origin... of a new character.
Agree that it failing to fill in the gaps of how Brin encountered the Legion was probably the most annoying part of it.
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
Had hoped to bear this out until it (soon) cancels but #12 and this thread.... Can't do it. Based on his L Lost effort, I don't think I'd ever buy a title from this writer. Just not to my tastes I guess.
Posted by rickshaw1 on :
Average story, screws with his origin but that's nothing new now. Good art.
Posted by Pariscub on :
I've had reservations about DeFalco writing DC characters before, but this has really been very bad.
They could have done the same origin, merge in parts of brin's old origin, and everyone would have been happy (and it would have made a better origin than BatWerine. :/
Is it wrong of me to say that I'm waiting impatiently for this series to be cancelled and the characters to be reabsorbed in LSH?
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
I'll join in with the dislike. Full disclosure: I was never much a Timber Wolf fan to begin with. But making him into such a generic feral/angry/revenge character strips what little there was of interest in the character that I did have. I just didn't see the point of this update when the original had more going for it (or even the animated origin, which struck a better balance).
Posted by Set on :
I find myself loving both the animated and 'classic' and Threeboot Timber Wolves, but not caring at all for 'Furball' or this new Wolverine-clone that Levitz has been using.
It's kind of head-spinny that there were already four different versions of this character running around, and Paul has felt the need to re-invent this particular wheel a fifth sprocking time.
And since this latest re-invention, IMO, isn't as good as at least three of the four previous incarnations, I'm left wondering what the heck the writers / editorial / whomever were smoking in the first place.
Change to make things *better,* is cool. Changing up his origin to bring in the Animated concept that Papa Londo was a 'let's turn people into bioweapons and sell them to terrorists!' sort of dude, could be funky. Changing it to focus on the nature of androids in the 31st century, as foreshadowing for a new android member of the LSV who has a grudge against Timber Wolf (a sort of arch-nemesis, as coldly mechanical as Brin is passionate and sometimes atavistic).
I'm not feeling that sort of thing here.
Character retooling should, IMO, *add* opportunities and expand options. A lot of this new DC stuff feels like it is making everyone smaller and less than they were before, taking stuff away, and not presenting anything even equal to what existed before, let alone *better* than what it's replacing.
Posted by cleome46 on :
quote:Originally posted by Pariscub: I've had reservations about DeFalco writing DC characters before, but this has really been very bad.
They could have done the same origin, merge in parts of brin's old origin, and everyone would have been happy (and it would have made a better origin than BatWerine. :/
Is it wrong of me to say that I'm waiting impatiently for this series to be cancelled and the characters to be reabsorbed in LSH?
If you are wrong, than I'm wrong along with you, Pariscub.
I pretty much gave up in disgust when they retroactively trashed Gim and Yera's marriage. The idea that contrived, unexplained angst is somehow more interesting than just letting the characters stay together... [throws up hands] May it do their sales good, but I'm not bloody interested.
Posted by Korbal on :
Story was subpar, and only seemed to be an excuse to retroactively introduce SP Nate Adym as the head of Echo (and possibly the identity of Harvest?) . Kinda wonder if Tor will become Black Mace though...
Posted by Chemical King on :
I thought the story was not all that bad. But would if had hurt so much to somewhere include Ayla in it instead of some no name SPs? That would have given us some sense of (no, not continuity) reverence to the old stories... picked up my Legion archive and read the original Lone Wolf story which, by todays standards, is very hard to read at all in my eyes, but well, some kind of nod to the old stories still woul have felt well.
Posted by lowercase mllash on :
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(Honestly, cartoon villain Mar Londo was more subtle, nuanced and interesting than anyone in this weak-tea origin story.)