So, I'd just as soon never read another "Legionnaires trapped in the present time" story again, and "Dominators trying to unlock the secret of human superpowers" is getting pretty boring as well.
So, what hasn't been used enough in LSH history?
There's been surprisingly little done with "visitors from the Legon's future". Waid teased us with the Knights Tempus (which was a groovy-cool concept), and I suppose there's been Anti-Lad and Thunder, but really, it seems like something that could be mined for a pretty cool story.
Similarly, there's a lot that could be explored with the mythology of the 1000 years between the present time and the Legion's time. There's been quite a bit of praise for the Soljer story over in the Bates/Grell thread, and part of what's nice about that tale is that it relies upon the idea of the last great World War and the mysterious weapons of that period (revisited somewhat in v4). There's got to be interesting stuff we can explore in that context. What's the real story of the Unknown Spaceman who first visited Venus?
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
Stories that take one issue to tell and don't require more than one splash page.
Incest. Has there been any incest? No? Well, that's probably good.
DnA would occasionally have a "behind the scenes" story. There was one with some maintenance guys I remember enjoying so I guess, stories on how Legion affects the rest of the world/galaxy, where membership is really just background.
Untold tales. I'm a sucker for those particularly if they give background to something that has become canon but not well explored. A relationship, a friend of Legion that just showed up in an issue.... Example: statues of the dead. A story about how those come about. That's just a fer example.
Posted by Malvolio on :
One word: Reflecto.
Posted by razsolo on :
quote:Originally posted by Malvolio: One word: Reflecto.
Hey yeah!
If we're rewriting history as we go along anyway, let's get a decent Reflecto story! Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Legionnaires affecting the galaxy in ways besides beating up bad guys.
I'm not talking about Legionnaires being affected by events; I'm talking about them trying to be agents of change.
Gates was always talking about the Legion being a waste of resources for defense, when those resources could have been used for education, nutrition etc. Have him do something about it, like get some Legionnaires together for a medical mission (like he and Ultra Boy did, volunteering for a soup kitchen, in issue 94!)
Has Postboot Triad's Legion career changed Carggg's treatment of those with personality differences at all? Did Triad do anything to try and change that?
Did Timber Wolf or Ultra Boy ever try to clean up Rimbor, even a bit?
Dreamer wanted to see if her precognitive abilities could help the Titanet detect threats. How about following up on this?
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
quote:Originally posted by razsolo:
quote:Originally posted by Malvolio: One word: Reflecto.
Hey yeah!
If we're rewriting history as we go along anyway, let's get a decent Reflecto story!
Rumor has it that while the current Legion has never met the Fatal Five, their version of the Space-Circus of Death story kicks ass! Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Legionnaires affecting the galaxy in ways besides beating up bad guys.
They used to do a lot of stuff like exploring the battle-torn remnants of Mlain and stuff during the Adventure Era. It would be nice to see them engaging in more scientific research and exploration.
Posted by cleome46 on :
[snip]
quote:[QUOTE]Originally posted by Blockade Boy: Incest. Has there been any incest?
[slaps forehead]
Could somebody please inform Blockade Boy that the SPN boards are elsewhere? (You need to walk three blocks east and then hang a left at the Walgreen's.)
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
The return of Nardo...
Missions on Lallor, Femnaz, Bgztl...
Follow ups to lots and lots of Advenure stories, like Control Kid, Jungle King, Treemen, Pyramid men, etc.
Developing relationships that affect the larger story and that matter...
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Legion friendships! Would love to see some Legionnaires during downtime. Maybe those stories could involve some action or set up larger plots, I don't mind, but with a team that large it'd sure be nice to see more of who's friends with who, who hates who...
That kind of stuff would never get old.
Posted by Harbinger on :
Lallor - does anyone else find it odd that there were only 5 mutants after their planetary nuclear war? If there are others then what happened to them?
The Wanderers - where exactly do they wander to? And why do they wander? Are they just curious or looking for something specific or running away from something
Invisible Kid 2 - does he have any personality at all?
Alchemists World - I'd love to see something there, just saying.
Posted by cleome46 on :
I know I've mentioned this before, but I wish they would either:
A) Return Wildfire to his suit-free form where he could simply maintain a human-like shape by force of will.
or
B) Have him arrive at a state where he's no longer completely angsty about not having a human body. Maybe he could meet some other sentients who are energy all or most of the time, and learn a few tips from them.
No, he doesn't have to become all woo-woo and New Age spiritual, but seriously... After all this time some actual brain-growth on his part would be refreshing.
[ETA- If Brainiac 5's forcefield belt doesn't fail every half hour, Wildfire's suit shouldn't end up as rags every half hour, either.]
[ September 16, 2012, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: cleome46 ]
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by cleome46: [snip]
quote:[QUOTE]Originally posted by Blockade Boy: Incest. Has there been any incest?
[slaps forehead]
Could somebody please inform Blockade Boy that the SPN boards are elsewhere? (You need to walk three blocks east and then hang a left at the Walgreen's.)
You should stop slapping your forehead. Seems to have affected your intelligence. When you recover you can read the next line of the post, the one you again didn't snip and stop trying to start childish internet wars.
Posted by cleome46 on :
I read it, BB. I was just teasing you. (Brother/brother incest is a huge thing in Supernatural fandom/fanfic. Sorry I didn't make that clearer. It's one of those things that I wrongly assumed everyone knew.)
And even when I do disagree with people, I'm not "trying to start childish internet wars." Did I miss the bulletin where we were all required to agree with one another all the time about everything?
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by cleome46: I read it, BB. I was just teasing you. (Brother/brother incest is a huge thing in Supernatural fandom/fanfic. Sorry I didn't make that clearer. It's one of those things that I wrongly assumed everyone knew.)
And even when I do disagree with people, I'm not "trying to start childish internet wars." Did I miss the bulletin where we were all required to agree with one another all the time about everything?
I'll let others decide whether they believe that to be a HUGE departure from your original intent.
You made no reference to "disagreement" in your post. It was a simple, clear intent to change the meaning of another's post and then make fun of the poster and the post. In the brief time I've been here, this is the second time you've "snipped" to change the meaning of one of my posts and maybe, maybe there is a problem with something you assumed that everyone knew, that the reference to Walgreens was a way to call me "white trash."
Anyhow, my preference would be you not quote me, agreement or disagreement. Based upon brief exposure, I don't consider you a particularly ethical poster.
Posted by Blacula on :
This may be my own weird thing but for some reason I've always wanted to read a locked-room, play-fair murder mystery featuring the Legion. Like maybe on a star-ship or something.
I know there were a few sort-of mystery stories in the Adventure-era, and there was that 'Who Shot Laurel Kent?' from the Baxter-era, but none of them really fit the bill of an Agatha Christie style murder mystery as far as I recall.
Obviously a story like that would be too 'small' and self-contained to feature the whole team, but it would be great for a spotlight issue on one or two members - say Saturn Girl and Chameleon Boy for example? Or Invisible Kid and Phantom Girl?
Posted by cleome46 on :
quote:Originally posted by Blockade Boy:
quote:Originally posted by cleome46: I read it, BB. I was just teasing you. (Brother/brother incest is a huge thing in Supernatural fandom/fanfic. Sorry I didn't make that clearer. It's one of those things that I wrongly assumed everyone knew.)
And even when I do disagree with people, I'm not "trying to start childish internet wars." Did I miss the bulletin where we were all required to agree with one another all the time about everything?
I'll let others decide whether they believe that to be a HUGE departure from your original intent.
You made no reference to "disagreement" in your post. It was a simple, clear intent to change the meaning of another's post and then make fun of the poster and the post. In the brief time I've been here, this is the second time you've "snipped" to change the meaning of one of my posts and maybe, maybe there is a problem with something you assumed that everyone knew, that the reference to Walgreens was a way to call me "white trash."
Anyhow, my preference would be you not quote me, agreement or disagreement. Based upon brief exposure, I don't consider you a particularly ethical poster.
Walgreen's = White Trash?
That would mean that we're both "White Trash," since I live ten minutes from Walgreen's and shop there all the time.
I already apologized here for my assumption about a perfectly harmless subject. If that isn't good enough, then you seriously need to take this to a mod. Because in my humble opinion, you're making a huge damn fuss over nothing.
Posted by Blacula on :
quote:Originally posted by Blockade Boy:
quote:Originally posted by cleome46: I read it, BB. I was just teasing you. (Brother/brother incest is a huge thing in Supernatural fandom/fanfic. Sorry I didn't make that clearer. It's one of those things that I wrongly assumed everyone knew.)
And even when I do disagree with people, I'm not "trying to start childish internet wars." Did I miss the bulletin where we were all required to agree with one another all the time about everything?
I'll let others decide whether they believe that to be a HUGE departure from your original intent.
You made no reference to "disagreement" in your post. It was a simple, clear intent to change the meaning of another's post and then make fun of the poster and the post. In the brief time I've been here, this is the second time you've "snipped" to change the meaning of one of my posts and maybe, maybe there is a problem with something you assumed that everyone knew, that the reference to Walgreens was a way to call me "white trash."
Anyhow, my preference would be you not quote me, agreement or disagreement. Based upon brief exposure, I don't consider you a particularly ethical poster.
Not knowing anything about Supernatural or it's brother-on-brother love themes, I was also a bit confused by cleome's initial post, BB.
But I didn't read her post as an attack on you.
If you were already feeling defensive from something she might have written before then I can see how it might have lead you to that conclusion... but I think this might just be a case of a joke that didn't translate so well online.
(From someone who mis-interpreted a post not long ago and took offence unnecessarily.)
Posted by Power Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by Blacula: This may be my own weird thing but for some reason I've always wanted to read a locked-room, play-fair murder mystery featuring the Legion. Like maybe on a star-ship or something.
I know there were a few sort-of mystery stories in the Adventure-era, and there was that 'Who Shot Laurel Kent?' from the Baxter-era, but none of them really fit the bill of an Agatha Christie style murder mystery as far as I recall.
Obviously a story like that would be too 'small' and self-contained to feature the whole team, but it would be great for a spotlight issue on one or two members - say Saturn Girl and Chameleon Boy for example? Or Invisible Kid and Phantom Girl?
I love a good Agatha Christie story!!!
There was one Golden Girls episode where they found themselves in that exact situation. Dorothy solves the case!
and ... I loved the Who shot Laurel Kent story!
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Yeah, I absolutely love the "locked spaceship" mystery idea!
"Murder on the Nova Express!" for the win!
Posted by cleome46 on :
I would read it! (Sadly, I don't know who should draw it now that Gene Colan is no more. Maybe they could reunite Simonson/Palmer.)
Posted by Blacula on :
Oooohhh my mind has just run with the idea and now I've got this great plot in mind featuring Saturn Girl, Chameleon Boy and Shrinking Violet on a broken down space-cruiser while a murderer stalks the passengers.
I won't give too much away but let's just say that all is not what it seems, and the Legionnaires might find that the killer is a lot closer than they realise!
Hire me DC!
Posted by Power Boy on :
Its Chameleon Boy!!!!!
Also, I could see ... Dream Girl, Saturn Girl, Cham and Brainy ... in a competition ... like the writing competition that spawned the story Frankenstein ...
Four (or more) Legionnaires put their detective skills to the test in a somewhat recreational bout ... in what seems a cut and dried murder case ... and things quickly become more than they seem!
Posted by cleome46 on :
Oh, I would uh, kill for a reunion of the "Universo Four!"
(But I don't want to read Cham as a murderer. I was annoyed enough with that "Durlan Killer" arc last year. That story made my teeth hurt. )
Posted by Blacula on :
quote:Originally posted by Power Boy: Its Chameleon Boy!!!!!
^ haha Would I be that obvious?
Or maybe it's a double-bluff and it does turn out to be Chameleon Boy after all?
Or maybe it's a triple bluff and it's actually one of the others? Or none of them at all?
Let's just say, I like to be surprised... and I've thought this one through. Posted by cleome46 on :
I smell a "mirrorverse" story.
(I suppose those really have been done to death all over, though.)
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
Hee-hee... the title of this thread and a potential LSH murder mystery makes me giggle.
Love 'Murder on the Nova Express'... would you rather read a story with the Legionnaires as suspects or detectives?
If the former, the cast could be pretty large. Esp if a sub-division (the Universo Four or the Espionage Squad) are the ones doing the detecting. If the latter, the number of investigating Legionnaires should be small.
The two would make for vastly different kinds of stories. I can see benefits in both.
I guess I'd prefer the scenario with a few Legionnaires either called in to investigate, or happening to be on board for some reason or other. I love the idea of 'the Universo Four', but I'd like to remind the board that Element Lad has acted as a pretty decent detective in at least one story. Jan, Brainy and Shrinking Violet would make a pretty terrific small cast.
Maybe an established LSH villain or two would be on board?
The idea of a bunch of Legionnaires as suspects is pretty intriguing too. Maybe a 'locked HQ' mystery that doesn't involve murder, but some other crime which wouldn't require the culprit to become a villain and face expulsion from the team.
Posted by Power Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by Mystery Lad: Hee-hee... the title of this thread and a potential LSH murder mystery makes me giggle.
HAHA!
quote:Originally posted by Mystery Lad: Love 'Murder on the Nova Express'... would you rather read a story with the Legionnaires as suspects or detectives?
Tonight on the Legion of Super-Heroes ... They have to clear ... THEMSELVES! *dun dun dunnnnn*
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
I think to make it most interesting, you'd have to have at least a couple of Legionnaires as suspects (if it's a multi-parter, at least one issue should end on the cliffhanger of the evidence pointing to one of the Legionnaires), though I'd want a variety of characters as suspects. The murderer should actually turn out to be someone who matters, rather than just Joe Martian who happens to be traveling on the spaceship.
Posted by Set on :
Big yes to lots of these ideas!
Love Mystery Lad's suggestions of follow-ups to Adventure stories (even if just mentioning these worlds and creatures and races, and letting us know that they still exist). Also of developing relationships / friendships that affect the larger story and aren't (like Thom and Dirk's one-time friendship) going to be abandoned for the shiny new thing.
I totally agree with Invisible Brainiac about more downtime. An issue dedicated to a 'day in the life' could be a great way to focus on the ginormous and compelling 31st century background, as well as flesh out some characterization beats. (The Simonson drawn issue, IMO, fell down in that they felt it necessary to show *every* Legionnaire, leaving room for nothing more than cameos, really.)
All four of Harbinger's ideas appeal to me. I've already written about Myar, the Alchemy Planet, so that's a silver age concept I'd love to see explored. Invisible Jacques either needs to be developed, or sidelined. He's a waste of space, currently. More on Lallor and the Wanderers, of course, would be great, or even more on the Subs or the old-school Academy students. It's been a long time since the days when those others would be called in to deal with a crisis. (Where were the Subs during the Takron-Galtos breakout, anyway? The Legion used to occasionally call up the reserves and Substitutes for big stuff like that...)
We've seen a little bit of the investigative / Legionnaire j'accuse! stuff over the last decades (Jo on Rimbor, framed for the murder of An Ryd, Threeboot Cham investigating the 'locked room murder' of the police prisoner and catching Jeyra Entin, etc.) but, well-written, there's always room for more of that!
A murder mystery in which Chameleon Boy turns out to be the corpse (because they faked the death of someone who was about to be assassinated, to flush out the real assassin!) could be funky!
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Or how about the Legionnaires taking part in a murder mystery game (and make them all act in character too), and they don't even know that a real murder has already occurred!
And we can have all those forgotten Adventure era characters be suspects/game participants as a nice way to bring them back.
Wow, this thread is mind-blowing. Love how we're building on each other's ideas. WE should write the Legion!
Posted by cleome46 on :
(I was actually writing a fanfic that attempted to bring the Espionage Squad into the antimated-verse, sans Brainiac 5. But I haven't been able to work on it in, oh, a dog's years now. :/ ) Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
But that would be awesome! Animated Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl and Shrinking Violet are among my favorite versions of all three characters ever!
Posted by cleome46 on :
In my version Violet leads ES, because she's older and has been on the team longer than Cham.
(I really hated how Season 2 shunted most of the female characters aside, but Animated Violet was great. It just sucked that she never got to actually interact with any other female characters. )
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Yeah, I remember fans here thought that the lack of female characters might have been because young male viewers wanted more cool guys. There was even a contest on Bits to pick a "strong" female Legionnaire to join the show so she could be front and center with the guys.
I liked all the animated females - and and :infectiouslassa: included. Really wish there had been more!
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
quote:Originally posted by Set: I've already written about Myar, the Alchemy Planet, so that's a silver age concept I'd love to see explored.
I've always thought that Nemesis Kid was a severely underutilized villain in general. A mystical ability to adapt whatever power is needed to defeat a particular opponent sounds like such a cool ability, but he always came off as pretty much a wuss in most of his appearances.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
I do wish some of his later appearances had shown him as a good enough tactician to use it to the fullest. They always got around it by having multiple Legionnaires (or multiple Lournus) attack simultaneously. A little divide and conquer would have allowed Nemesis Kid to fight back pretty well.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
At the other extreme, there's Karate Kid #1, where he's basically written with a Duplicate Boy-esque ability to do whatever he can think of, which I don't think is how his power should work, either.
The way I see it, whenever he's confronted with a particular opponent, his ability scans that opponent and gifts him with whatever is needed to defeat the opponent. For example, when faced with Mordru, he might develop earth-manipulation abilities, though he wouldn't necessarily understand why that particular power is useful against Mordru.
It might be interesting if a Legionnaire (or someone else) had to make use of a version of his potion (one that works only one time or something) in order to defeat a particular villain.
[ September 22, 2012, 09:08 PM: Message edited by: Eryk Davis Ester ]
Posted by cleome46 on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Yeah, I remember fans here thought that the lack of female characters might have been because young male viewers wanted more cool guys.
Because there weren't enough cool guys in S1? [bangs head on desk] So damn tired of the "one-girl rule" in pop culture. And the heavy hand of Marketing, which I suspect was the main culprit here.
Yet you have other children's shows like Last Airbender that had much more parity between the genders and were hugely successful. The argument that a show can't succeed without being male-dominated all the time sounds more like adults indulging their own prejudices while hiding behind the kids.
quote:There was even a contest on Bits to pick a "strong" female Legionnaire to join the show so she could be front and center with the guys.
I think a character like Monstress or XS would have been cool, but then again I saw nothing wrong with the girls they already used from the start. Mostly they just needed some more time in the front-- together!
quote:I liked all the animated females - and and included. Really wish there had been more!
Sadly, prominently-featured female characters (emphasis on the plural) are in no imminent danger of being done to death.
[ September 22, 2012, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: cleome46 ]
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Criminal Minds is another show that has a good mix between the sexes. Creators really need to understand that female characters are NOT interchangeable!
Posted by Set on :
There's some 'rule' that I don't remember the name of (the Bechtel rule?) that one reviewer uses to judge whether a show is just including a woman to satisfy a quota (or as eye-candy for the male viewers), instead of writing women as actual characters.
1) There are two women with speaking lines.
2) At some point, they have a conversation with each other.
3) Their conversation is *not* about one of the male characters.
It seems like a lot movies, in particular, only have 'room' for one woman, and even if there is another woman with a speaking role, they never meet (or only meet for an obligatory 'chick-fight').
I've never consciously thought about that during my own writing of the Legion, but the Legion ladies, despite being attractively drawn and occasionally scantily clad, have been portrayed as much more than just 'eye candy for the male readers' over the decades.
Posted by cleome46 on :
Set:
What makes it sadder is that both JLA/JLU and Titans Go!, while not perfect, were way ahead of the Legion cartoons in terms of passing The Bechdel Test.
I think my favorite ep from S1 is "Child's Play", because wow! We got a whole couple of sentences in which Phantom, Saturn and Trip were discussing battle strategy with each other. (Plus, the whole plot was that a self-absorbed boy child had to learn that he wasn't really the center of the universe. After Phantom Girl found a legal loophole that kept Earth from going to war with Sorcerer's World.)
(Oh, and in case I never mentioned it, I think Laser Ape should totally have made it into S3.)
[ September 23, 2012, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: cleome46 ]
Posted by Power Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Creators really need to understand that female characters are NOT interchangeable!
Actually, this brings to mind ... a vision ...
"Picture it ... The Silver Age ... Battle of the Sexes story"
... where the boys take off half cocked (with one female LSH member) to tackle a case ... meanwhile the girls back at the HQ are solving the case ... and the girls have to take reluctant turns being the *token* female on the boys squad.(mostly just to make sure they don't mess things up too badly)
Sun Boy, Live Wire, and Ultra Boy won't even realize that Shrinking Violet was with them during one panel and Triplicate Girl was on their team in the next panel.
The girls use the Planetary chance machine to choose who has to go with the boys at any given moment.
It strikes Vi twice in a row. and she pouts!
Smart boys like Brainy, Element Lad, Cham, and Invisible Kid are not part of this story.
Ok well maybe for the last panel where everyone laughs about the hijinks!
Posted by cleome46 on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Criminal Minds is another show that has a good mix between the sexes. Creators really need to understand that female characters are NOT interchangeable!
And that it's ridiculous to expect one woman in fiction to stand for all women everywhere. I think that's the real problem that dogs poor Wonder Woman. If the "Trinity" were a Quartet (Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Hawkgirl or Black Canary) there wouldn't constantly be one female character having to carry all of "Womanhood" by herself.
Posted by cleome46 on :
[snip]
quote:Originally posted by Power Boy:
... where the boys take off half cocked (with one female LSH member) to tackle a case ... meanwhile the girls back at the HQ are solving the case ... and the girls have to take reluctant turns being the *token* female on the boys squad.(mostly just to make sure they don't mess things up too badly)
quote:...Smart boys like Brainy, Element Lad, Cham, and Invisible Kid are not part of this story.
They're out selling candy planet-to-planet to help keep the lights on at HQ. RJ made some really bad investments that decade and... well...
quote:Ok well maybe for the last panel where everyone laughs about the hijinks!
You're going to write this story, yes?
Posted by Power Boy on :
When the "boy" team starts to get suspicious ... Saturn Girl and Phantom Girl quickly do one or several of these four to throw them off.
quote:Originally posted by Set:
1) There are two women with speaking lines.
2) At some point, they have a conversation with each other.
3) Their conversation is *not* about one of the male characters.
and subsequently and obligatory: 4) *CAT* FIGHT!
The boys dismiss their suspicions and chalk the confusion up to "Girls sure are crazy!"
Posted by cleome46 on :
Cat fights are soooo... last century. The fight should have them literally throwing cats at one another a la' the Cat Lady on The Simpsons.
And then Interplanetary PETA shows up... [cue ominous music]
Posted by Set on :
Ooh, cat fights with real cats! Yes!
Posted by cleome46 on :
(This thread is going to be locked for excessive silliness, isn't it?)
Posted by Power Boy on :
Holy S*#$
... THAT IS AMAZING ....
I was going to suggest mud wrestling ....
bikinis on cats, covered in mud ... spun around and thrown at female Legionnaires?
Posted by Power Boy on :
Catspaw shows up ... backs slowly out of the HQ ...
Stealth comes in handy.
Posted by cleome46 on :
[snip]
quote:Originally posted by Power Boy: Holy S*#$
...bikinis on cats, covered in mud ... spun around and thrown at female Legionnaires?
No no no! Not bikinis! CAT-suits!
(I guess the whole thing should be done holographic-ly to avoid offending cats or cat-sentient off-world viewers. Also I doubt anyone would want to clean up all that real mud? Virtual mud is better.)
Posted by Set on :
Orbital Kitten Launchers! Cats from above!
Posted by cleome46 on :
Bruce Cockburn IV shows up to sing his ancestor's biggest hit: "If I Had A Kitty Launcher..." Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Maybe the cats could be Proteans in disguise! It's all part of the girls' brilliant plan to infiltrate the crime ring they're busting!!
Posted by Lone Wolf Legionnaire on :
The return of the Every Ten Year Monster, it's been over thirty years for crying out loud!
Posted by Power Boy on :
This could be a two parter! What happened to the monster???
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
The Legendary Questar totally needs to make a reappearance! Along with Nam'Lor!
Posted by He Who Wanders on :
quote:Originally posted by Lone Wolf Legionnaire: The return of the Every Ten Year Monster, it's been over thirty years for crying out loud!
Ten years to it could be 300 to us. Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
NAM'LOR! NAM'LOR! NAM'LOR! NAM'LOR!
Which Legion female should Nam'lor turn evil with his aura this time? I vote they make it so his aura turns gay men evil too!
How about a revenge plot by all the Legionnaires' exes? "I dated this Legionnaire and all I got was a crummy imitation flight ring!"
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
You know what I bet is a problem in the 31st century?
Space-kudzu.
Surely the Legionnaires have to have at least the occasional mission where they save the eco-system of a planet from an accidentally introduced massively invasive species.
Posted by Power Boy on :
What really is the point of the Legion? I mean ... half of them come from whole planets full of people who have powers just like them.
Lightning Lad I get. Cosmic Boy and Saturn Girl are obviously the exemplars of their race but ... are they a military organization? and why so young? surely there are older more skilled Braalians or Titanians in the Science Police.
Posted by Set on :
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Surely the Legionnaires have to have at least the occasional mission where they save the eco-system of a planet from an accidentally introduced massively invasive species.
Given the Dominator's penchant for bio-engineering, the Legionnaires might also have the occasional mission to save the eco-system of a planet from a *deliberately* introduced massively invasive species!
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Ooh, way to make the Dominators actually interesting! I like it!
Posted by Set on :
Yeah, sort of a 'fire and forget' Dominator scheme, since they don't even have to be present for it, they just have to drop off 'arks' on planets they want to 'terrorform' and let the plants, animals, bacteria, etc. that they've engineered spread under their own power, eating up the old eco-system and turning it into one that's more compatible with their own needs and / or actively hostile to other species needs.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
I'd like to see more of "weird" other-world cultures too. While the Legionnaires are on another planet, maybe they can spend a bit of time immeresing themselves in those cultures. Weird holidays, weird practices, weird food..
Posted by jimgallagher on :
Okay, I'm too lazy to read all 5 pages of this thread so i don't know if this has been brought up yet. BUT I would love to see a Legion squad investigate supernatural type stories and events, similar to the way the Teen Titans did toward the end of their original series. Ghost stories, demonic possessions, etc. etc. Black Witch or Glorith could be involved, or Dream Girl. Phantom Girl could maybe communicate with ghosts, or maybe Luornu could have some sort of link to the spiritual world through her 2 dead bodies. Projectra would also be a natural for this type of stories. Maybe it could be an all girl thing. Maybe visit that island on Preztor where Command Kid's demon came from for example. Or the dead world, Tombor, etc. etc.
Posted by Set on :
Command Kid's demon is technically still floating around, as the Legion had no way of dealing with it after it was exorcised.
That's an unresolved supernatural subplot that's been hanging for a *long* time!
It was kind of neat having Paul & Phil bring back a few of the Taurus Gang for their Adventure stories, dipping into the Silver Age tales for other stuff, like the Murrans or the Heroes of Lallor, could be fun.
I wouldn't want to recycle too much from the past (since some of it was just a tiny bit silly), but the Legion's rich history has some gems that could be plucked forth and re-polished.
Posted by Power Boy on :
we've only been to BGTZL once ... (right?) ... and it was in a Secret Origins book.
Don't they have crime over there?
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Twice, if you count the trip to the 20th century Bgztl to fight the Dirigible Dictator during the Reflecto Saga.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Also, I believe we saw it briefly in the Bates-era story featuring Tinya's brother.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
There are some Legion homeworlds I'd like to see more of, too.
To tie into Jim's idea on supernatural stories, Aleph had evidence of a "former glorious magical civilization". Maybe someone wants to restore said civilization and Kinetix could lead the female Legionnaires to check it out!
Posted by jimgallagher on :
Another thought I posted on another thread: I'd like to see a series of stories from the early LSH days featuring just the first 8 to 10 members, with none of the super clones thrown in to hog the action. So no Superboy, Supergirl, Mon-El, Ultra Boy, or Star Boy. Oh, and NO Brainiac 5 either!
Posted by Set on :
quote:Originally posted by jimgallagher: Another thought I posted on another thread: I'd like to see a series of stories from the early LSH days featuring just the first 8 to 10 members, with none of the super clones thrown in to hog the action.
While I'm a bit 'foundered out,' I have to admit, I'd love some stories about the first five, since it would give us some chances for Luornu and Tinya to shine (and to see a Legion band where three out of five are girls!), without either of them being encumbered by relationship issues (since Chuck and Jo wouldn't have been introduced yet).
The first eight, minus Superboy, would include Colossal Boy, Invisible Lyle and Chameleon Boy, and I'd also be keen on seeing that group in action, since, barring any of the Super-folk, Colossal Boy would be the 'big gun' of the group, and it would be cool to see Invisible Lyle in a team with no Brainy to upstage him and render all lesser geniuses into sockpuppets.
To be totally contrary, after letting Colossal Boy have some time, six issues or so, as the Legion's 'heavy hitter,' I wouldn't mind introducing Star Boy, with his crazy original powers (Superboy + Electrical Vision!).
Alternately, totally retcon Star Boy's original powers. Say instead that his mass-manipulating / gravity affecting abilities were supercharged when they first manifested, and he could alter his own mass to become effectively invulnerable (and super-strong), making him *seem* like he had Superboy-like strength and toughness, but that his powers later 'came down' to much lower levels. Instead of having a whole bunch of powers, replaced by mass manipulation, his whole schtick *was always* mass manipulation (with any holotapes suggesting that he had 'electrical vision' or whatever being 'chronicler's error' or deliberate misinformation!), he just doesn't have the crazy super-charged power that he had right after the meteor exposure.
Perhaps those supercharged powers weren't merely temporary, but also hard to control, and had to be 'bled off' to a more manageable level, for Thom's safety (and the safety of everyone around him!).
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