For instance, it's not too far off base to imagine former inept supervillain-turned JLA member MAJOR DISASTER being the ancestor of Calamity King.
Maybe.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
That explains why Brainiac Five didn't want him to join. Not only would he have stolen the "blowing up headquarters" gig, but the "sorry I'm descended from such an evil man" gig as well!
Posted by superboymddjr on :
we have XS as Flash's descendant, Lyrissa and Lydea Mallor as Shady's ancester, and Vril Dox, Lyrl Dox Qerl's ancestors....any theory that Batman can be Karate Kid's ancestry? Nah, probably not. *grin*
Posted by SiliconDream on :
No wonder Tyroc was so angry! It was those crazy sex hormones he inherited from Stealth!
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
quote:Originally posted by SiliconDream: No wonder Tyroc was so angry! It was those crazy sex hormones he inherited from Stealth!
Actually, Troy Stewart (Tyroc) would make a good descendant of John Stewart (Green Lantern). If someone can figure out a way to shoehorn Sonar I or II in there somewhere, it's a lock.
Posted by SiliconDream on :
He could be Stealth's and John's descendant...her species' kids always look like the father, after all.
Could Floating Foxlike Creature Boy be a descendant of Davroth from the R.E.C.R.U.I.T.S., suffering from Zuunium poisoning?
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
CHLOROPHYLL KID could be the descendant of Rose/Thorn, the Fluronic Man or, my pick, BLACK ORCHID (who's been on my mind lately, for some reason).
The vat of fertilizer he fell into still gave him his powers, but he had a genetic predisposition to help the power 'take root'. Anyone else would've just gotten the runs.
I always thought DREAM GIRL should have some sort of connection to SANDMAN and the DREAMING... but not as a genetic ancestor/descendant link.
DEV-EM could be a many-times removed Kryptonion/Earther hybrid who thinks Superman is his ancestor. Guess he'd then be Dev-EL, though.
Hmmm-- maybe a group of 'lesser' Legion characters might band together and call themselves 'The NEW JLA', since modeling after the 21st century heroic tradition seems to be all the rage for a certain segment of the 31st century population. Who'd fill the NEW JLA's ranks?
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
It's jumping companies, but I'd make Triplicate Girl a descendant of Madrox - the Terran genes would be the reason she survived the catastrophe on Cargg and no-one else did (of course, this would mean her parents were already dead and that she had no siblings or cousins) as well as a predisposition to replicate. Or is there someone in the DCU with that power?
I like the idea of Karate Kid being Batman's descendent, although he could also have a link to Black Canary. Maybe both?
Posted by Gay Green Giant on :
It's not that hard to imagine KK being related to Speedy and Cheshire..oops, I mean Arsenal.
Posted by EmeraldEmpress on :
Timber Wolf can be a descendant of Crimson Fox. Polar Boy of Ice or Icemaiden. Dream Girl and White Witch of Silver Sorceress. Saturn Girl of Maxima. Neon (Celeste Rockfish) of Fire.
Posted by SiliconDream on :
quote:Originally posted by superboymddjr: .any theory that Batman can be Karate Kid's ancestry? Nah, probably not. *grin*
Lessee...aren't the best c21 DCU martial artists Batgirl, Lady Shiva & Richard Dragon? KK could be a descendant of any or all of them...
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
I just have one thing to add to this discussion.
Keep you damn, stinkin' 21st Century paws off of my 31st Century Legion!
Okay, end rant. Have a nice day. Posted by Tromium on :
Um ... does Black Lightning have kids? The costume looks mighty familiar
Anyone who suggests that Element Lad is descended from Metamorpho the Element Man will receive a cyber-slap upside the head.
[ May 17, 2005, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: Tromium ]
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Tromium: Um ... does Black Lightning have kids? The costume looks mighty familiar
Anyone who suggests that Element Lad is descended from Metamorpho the Element Man will receive a cyber-slap upside the head.
Hmm...Guess we could trade slaps.
Actually Anissa (Thunder, BL's daughter) would seem to be more an ancestor of Thom.
Posted by Vee on :
Invisible Kid => Robin (genius, super detective) Dr. Alchemy => Element Lad (alchemy = transmutation) Zantana => White Witch Kon-El => Ultra Boy (limited superman like powers) Starman => Star Boy Elongated Man => Bouncing Boy ) Superman => Mon-El (via Daxam, finally a good reason for the surname) The Ray => Sunboy Beast Boy or Martian Manhunter=> Cham Phantom Lady => Phantom Girl Wildcat => Timber Wolf/Lone Wolf Bat Girl => Karate Kid Atom/Doll Man => Shrinking Violet ElastiGirl (Doom Patrol)/Atom Smasher => Colosssal Boy Lilith => Saturn Girl Herald (Mal) => Tyroc Obsidion => Shadow Lass Firestorm = Wildfire Steel = Ferro Lad Cyborg => Gear
....more as I think of them....
Posted by Kid Metal \m/ on :
On the enemy side, I thought that somehow Despero and Nardo could have been related. Red skin, three eyes (granted the formation is different, but I figure if Despero's crest can shift around, then maybe other body parts can do the same), deadly vision powers, etc.
Posted by MLLASH on :
Despero. Nardo.
JEENYUS!!!! Good work, Kid!
Posted by SiliconDream on :
I was just rereading my R.E.B.E.L.S. and noticed that there's a 20th-century Hate-Face! Same look, same name. In issue #3 he's working in a chop-shop Dox visits.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Jeepers! That could be *the* Hate-Face. Who knows when he died?
Posted by SiliconDream on :
But..but he's kind of a jerk! There's no way this ruffian could have "the soul of an angel!" He must be a villainous ancestor, and the source of Hate-Face's secret shame!
Posted by Comet Boy on :
Anyone think that they could possible be a Vandel Savage decendent in LSH...
...What the heck am I saying? Half the population of DCU is probably somehow related to Vandel Savage...
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
Zinda Blake (Lady Blackhawk) is surely the ancestor and inspiration for Sinde. Similar names, blonde hair ... of course, Sinde just acts the dumb chatterbox to hide her superhero identity, which hasn't been revealed yet.
Posted by Infectious Drura on :
I always thought it would have been nice if Ice's people were the ancestors of the Tharrans (Tharrites? Tharrians? Tharries?), Polar Boy's people.
No one except me seems to have thought of that. It's an obvious one I always thought!
Posted by Candle on :
quote:Originally posted by Vee: Invisible Kid => Robin (genius, super detective) Dr. Alchemy => Element Lad (alchemy = transmutation) Zantana => White Witch Kon-El => Ultra Boy (limited superman like powers) Starman => Star Boy Elongated Man => Bouncing Boy ) Superman => Mon-El (via Daxam, finally a good reason for the surname) The Ray => Sunboy Beast Boy or Martian Manhunter=> Cham Phantom Lady => Phantom Girl Wildcat => Timber Wolf/Lone Wolf Bat Girl => Karate Kid Atom/Doll Man => Shrinking Violet ElastiGirl (Doom Patrol)/Atom Smasher => Colosssal Boy Lilith => Saturn Girl Herald (Mal) => Tyroc Obsidion => Shadow Lass Firestorm = Wildfire Steel = Ferro Lad Cyborg => Gear
....more as I think of them....
I love the idea of Elongated Man (or possibly Elastic Man) as Bouncing Boy's ancestor! It would explain so much!
'Cyborg and Gear' is a great connection, too. I love the Gear character.
I think the Starman/Starboy ancestry has already been established but maybe it's just the power that connects them.
ML ~ I think Johns has connected Dreamy to the Dreaming/Sandman. I seem to remember it somewhere else, too. I'm not sure.
Obsidian somehow having a child with Lydea Mallor would be extremely interesting. I love anything that expands the Shady mythos.
As for the elemantal Firestorm, I think that the reboot Dirk Morgana was being groomed for that connection. Nothing came of it since DnA took over that run, but Moy(I think) had his eyes change to look like Firestorms' in one of the last issue he appeared in. I was so excited about that development, and then, so disappointed.
ML ~ I think that Chlorophyll Kid could also be a descendent of Poison Ivy ~ I like Black Orchid, too but PI would feel right, as well.
I'll think about this idea and see if I can come up with some of my own ideas to contribute.
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Candle: ML ~ I think Johns has connected Dreamy to the Dreaming/Sandman. I seem to remember it somewhere else, too. I'm not sure.
Yeah- that was in the LIGHTNING SAGA. Just an offhand comment in a panel or two. I would've bought a four-issue miniseries just exploring *that* connection.
Maybe we'd have found out just how and why Sanderson adopted the Sandman name, all of a sudden.
quote:Originally posted by Candle: Obsidian somehow having a child with Lydea Mallor would be extremely interesting. I love anything that expands the Shady mythos.
I'd prefer it if Todd somehow or other appeared in the Shadow Cave for a Shadow Champion's ascension.
Maybe as a teacher? Or a guide through the maze of ancestors living in the Shadowlands?
Not crazy about him being an ancestor to Shadow Lass, though. Biologically, anyway.
quote:Originally posted by Candle: As for the elemantal Firestorm, I think that the reboot Dirk Morgana was being groomed for that connection. Nothing came of it since DnA took over that run, but Moy(I think) had his eyes change to look like Firestorms' in one of the last issue he appeared in. I was so excited about that development, and then, so disappointed.
Poor reboot Dirk never got his due, did he? And now, probably never will. If that whole reality's been wiped (destroyed was the word used, I think)...
quote:Originally posted by Candle: ML ~ I think that Chlorophyll Kid could also be a descendent of Poison Ivy ~ I like Black Orchid, too but PI would feel right, as well.
Ivy would make even more sense for the Johns Chlorophyll Kid- who's as crazy as prospective ancestor.
Posted by Candle on :
quote:Originally posted by Mystery Lad: Yeah- that was in the LIGHTNING SAGA. Just an offhand comment in a panel or two. I would've bought a four-issue miniseries just exploring *that* connection.
I think I've seen something else connecting Nura to the Dreaming, some Sandman special or other. It could just be wishful thinking but . . .
quote:I'd prefer it if Todd somehow or other appeared in the Shadow Cave for a Shadow Champion's ascension.
Maybe as a teacher? Or a guide through the maze of ancestors living in the Shadowlands?
A Shadowland guide would be cool.
~ I think Lydea is unlike her ancestors though, in that she has the added powers from StarGrave AND she's spent most of her short life off world.
I could definitely see her thinking about continuing the line with Obsidion.
He might come to her in her dreams or through the Shadow Cave/Land connection. I don't know much about him, but he might feel compelled to create a child with the Shadow Champion, as she might feel compelled.
I don't know about him sticking around to raise the baby, though.
And, since Shady was originally supposed to be black, it might be 'justice' to add a black human to her lineage!
quote:Poor reboot Dirk never got his due, did he? And now, probably never will. If that whole reality's been wiped (destroyed was the word used, I think)...
I hope that's not true. There were a lot of supporting characters in the reboot that I loved. sigh
quote:Ivy would make even more sense for the Johns Chlorophyll Kid- who's as crazy as prospective ancestor.
Ivy's a very sexual type of character, too. Perhaps Bruce Wayne could be the other parent?!
I'd love to see a future Black Orchid. I seem to remember a story where she has lots of clone sisters (like plants) growing at different stages in the rainforest. There should be one in the 31st century!
Posted by Candle on :
quote:Originally posted by Comet Boy: ...What the heck am I saying? Half the population of DCU is probably somehow related to Vandel Savage...
Yes, unfortunately.
What a waste of grace he is! Someone, or something, grants him a hugely long life and he just spends the whole time doing nothing important, at all! yuck!!!
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Candle: I think I've seen something else connecting Nura to the Dreaming, some Sandman special or other. It could just be wishful thinking but . . .
I share your wishful thinking, but if there is such an issue, I'm unaware of it. If it's out there, I'd *really* like to read it!
quote:Originally posted by Candle: And, since Shady was originally supposed to be black, it might be 'justice' to add a black human to her lineage!
Your smiley may indicate that you already know this, but Obsidion's the son of Alan Scott, the original Green Lantern and Rose (The Thorn) Forrest(?). The black's only in his costume. In addition, he's in a fairly recent, but apparently committed relationship with another man. Which doesn't rule out him siring a child with a Talokian female, certainly...
...but it wouldn't do anything to give Shooter's intentions for Shady justice.
quote:Originally posted by Candle: I hope that's not true. There were a lot of supporting characters in the reboot that I loved. sigh
Echoed sigh.
quote:Originally posted by Candle: I'd love to see a future Black Orchid. I seem to remember a story where she has lots of clone sisters (like plants) growing at different stages in the rainforest. There should be one in the 31st century!
Yeah, that was at the end of the Vertigo series, I think. A 31st century Black Orchid could be great-- I'd like to see what she'd be like.
Posted by Quislet, Esq. on :
quote:Originally posted by Candle:
quote:Originally posted by Comet Boy: ...What the heck am I saying? Half the population of DCU is probably somehow related to Vandel Savage...
Yes, unfortunately.
What a waste of grace he is! Someone, or something, grants him a hugely long life and he just spends the whole time doing nothing important, at all! yuck!!!
Well he is an evil villain after all.
Posted by Candle on :
Yes, and not a very good one ~ mediocre really. He's sort of a pest, like a mosquito, buzzing around your head, only he, unfortunately, carries malaria, too. Posted by Candle on :
quote:Originally posted by Mystery Lad: [QUOTE]Your smiley may indicate that you already know this, but Obsidion's the son of Alan Scott, the original Green Lantern and Rose (The Thorn) Forrest(?). The black's only in his costume. In addition, he's in a fairly recent, but apparently committed relationship with another man. Which doesn't rule out him siring a child with a Talokian female, certainly...
...but it wouldn't do anything to give Shooter's intentions for Shady justice.
I remembered his father after I posted, but I didn't know who his mother was, so I left it unedited. sigh I guess I was hoping for a Halle Berry or Barak Obama effect.
His face is black, isn't it, not brown or tan, but black? That must be a mask. lol
I also didn't know he was gay, too. That's two strikes against the idea! Oh well.
On a more correct, I hope, note ~ Black Lightning has two daughters, at least. One of them has been in the JSA recently, hasn't she, the youngest one? She's the one that we saw originally in the Alex Ross miniseries. When she's in power mode, she's very visually beautiful, stricking really. Posted by Set on :
Cosmic Boy and former occasional Teen Titan / occasional chemically unbalanced super-threat Magenta both have magnetic powers and a fondness for the color purple, perhaps they are very distantly related?
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