[ February 01, 2011, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: Sarcasm Kid ]
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Guys, come on!
Posted by Dev Em on :
I joined. Who are you on FB...am I friends with you yet?
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I'm trying to join. But apparently, someone's already linked to my e-mail address.
But, so far, I sent an e-mail to J.T. Krul, with an intelligent opinion on the matter.
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Every day, I'm putting in a response, to keep this thing up and in an attempt to get more people coming.
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The number of members is now 83.
Come on, people.
Posted by Dev Em on :
Did you figure out what went wrong with your joining? Add David Sopko as a friend. :0
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Because I remember that, months ago, since I didn't have a facebook account, I allowed an elderly aunt to use my e-mail adress. Or some nonsense. It would've helped if either myself or my mom reminded me.
Now I have to try and get it sorted out.
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Number's now 88.
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Now 93.
I just realized there was no Black Lantern Lian.
Posted by wndola1 on :
I joined and posted to twitter... it is another women in refrigerators moment.
It was cheap and unnecessary
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
quote:Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: Because I remember that, months ago, since I didn't have a facebook account, I allowed an elderly aunt to use my e-mail adress. Or some nonsense. It would've helped if either myself or my mom reminded me.
Now I have to try and get it sorted out.
just start up a Yahoo or Google email account, and use it to join.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
So, number's up to 98.
If anyone's got a Comic Bloc account, if you could bring this over here it would be great.
(Another stupid reason, I keep trying to activate my account but it won't let me)
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Oh, I can a get a link to the twitter page?
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Now where at 100 members.
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Um guys, I forgot to mention this. I'm really, really sorry.
The solicit for Green Arrow #1.
BRIGHTEST DAY shines its light on Star City in this oversized first issue from up-and-coming writer J.T. Krul (BLACKEST NIGHT: TITANS, GREEN ARROW #30) and future superstar artist Diogenes Neves (New Mutants)! “The Fall of Green Arrow” has ended. Now who carries the heavy bow of the Emerald Archer? Coming out of the devastation, what miraculous event has occurred in Star City and what mysteries await inside that bring the forces of good and evil in search of its lone protector? Aim for a whole new era starring Green Arrow in this exciting ongoing series!
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Number's 114.
Posted by MLLASH on :
WHEN WAS LIAN KILLED??!?!?!
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Cry for Justice #7.
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Her only appearance was Oliver holding her body, and we didn't even see THAT.
She was crushed to death when Prometheus' machines leveled Star City.
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And now I joined.
Posted by KryptonKid on :
Sorry, I am against it. I never want to hear Hawkgirl whine about Cheshire again.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
What exactly does Lian coming back have to do with Hawkgirl?
Posted by Dev Em on :
IIRC, Hawkgirl and Roy were dating...so I'm guessing she complained about Roy and Ches having a kid together.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I'm pretty sure Roy and Hawkgirl ended.
Posted by Dev Em on :
The whole reason I liked Roy was that he was a devoted dad who had to think about how things he did affected Lian.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Part of the reason I'm doing it is because of sick and senseless death and more fridge moments.
Posted by Dev Em on :
I'm totally with you on that one...just stating the reason I thoupght Roy was unique in the DCU. Wally is a dad now sure, but Roy has been doing the single dad thing now for years.
Plus it always made meeting between the Titans and Cheshire very anxious.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Why do you think I've gotten interested?
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Number's 132.
Posted by Set on :
quote:Originally posted by KryptonKid: Sorry, I am against it. I never want to hear Hawkgirl whine about Cheshire again.
[shallow] Hawkgirl and Chesire should totally hook up.
'Cause that would be hawt. [/shallow]
Plus it would be fun to see their dominant personalities clash. Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Kinky.
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139.
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Still 139.
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156.
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Over 160.
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
I hope they do bring back Lian, but I really want to see Tempest and *his* kid returned!
Is there a petition for that?
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I think so, maybe...
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166.
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170.
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Posted by Dev Em on :
Little by little, it's growing.
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181.
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183.
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193.
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And I ain't gonna stop updating this thread until Lian's become the new Arrowette! And then Red Hood.
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194.
And we now have a group on DeviantArt! Thanks to moi.
And 21 on the DeviantArt chapter.
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2 friggin hundred on facebook!
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Scratch that!
It's 207.
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209.
Guys, please, we need more people to join. And be sure to check out "Lian Harper: The Series" in the section for fanart and fiction.
Posted by Disaster Boy on :
I think you'll need two million to make a dent.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Okay, so, here’s the deal. We’re a movement, right? A protest group, correct? Then we need to act like one. Simply collecting fan art and fan fiction doesn’t make us a movement, it makes us a fan club. We need to start taking more proactive steps, but we can’t start in grandiose ways, or by going overboard. Not yet, anyway.
1. Spread The Message: We still need to get as many people involved as we can. We’ve been doing that so far by reaching out to the Roy and Lian fans who were angered with what happened, on those who weren’t aware of it. There are probably more out there, lots more, and simply looking for those who post art and stories is not a surefire way to find them all. Talk about the movement and the circumstances behind it in your journals and your posts. Spread more information about it to other message boards, among twitter, live journal, facebook, myspace, and any of those other websites. Tell your friends about it and get them involved. Feature the BBLH Ribbon in your artwork and your journals. Of course, I understand if some of you still have problems with it, in regards to actual awareness ribbons, in which case you don‘t have to. And keep a steady stream of art and stories to get more people into it.
2. Keep Your Eyes Open: We still need to keep up with the information flow regarding Roy’s status as a character. Keep your eyes out for any interviews, reviews, and segments on any websites like Newsarama, Comic Book Resources, the DCU Blog, or any of the creator or editor websites.
3. Stay Aware: To this end, no matter how painful it might be, I’m going to have ask all of you to be sure you’ve read Rise of Arsenal and Green Arrow. I am not saying BUY, and I am not saying STEAL. READ. Obviously, money means more to the execs at DC then reading it, so we shouldn’t support this “direction” they’ve decided to go in by giving them our money. But we still need to read them in order to know what’s happening. In that case, borrow the issues from a friend, if you can, or read them in a comic or book store if you can. I can’t condone reading the comics scanned in their entirety on the internet, but if you can’t get them, well…
4. Make Your Voices Heard: Just because they’re professionals, doesn’t mean they don’t have e-mail addresses. Give your opinions to the editors and writers at DC on this matter in whatever way you can. Once you’ve finished reading the issues, type up reviews, post them, and send them to the writers and editors. But you must sound intelligent and rational. Proof read, use proper language, avoid internet slang, and do not come across as whiny or childish. But let them know EXACTLY how you feel. I’ve got Krul’s e-mail address.
I am not forcing any of you to do any of these things, but if we’re serious about this, then we need to start taking more steps to fix the mess DC has made of these two characters.
Any suggestions guys?
Posted by Candle on :
Here's a little pic I found and worked with a little. I love the idea of Lian at that age, about 1 to 1 and 1/2 years old. Her red hair and blue eyes are just beginning to turn to her later blue black hair and black eyes.
Feel free, if you want, to post this anywhere else that you want, SK. I'm going to add it to you Lian story on Bits here.
original photo posted by Zman4386
Posted by MLLASH on :
I joined the Facebook page.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Really? Cool.
Posted by MLLASH on :
I think I was # 221.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I think you're the third #221. For some reason the number keeps going up and down between 220 and 225.
Posted by Kid Charlemagne on :
They killed LIAN?????!!!!?????
This is the sort of thing that makes me glad I finally had to quit superhero comics a few years ago, due to the expense.
SPROCK 'EM ALL AND THE STARSHIPS THEY WARPED IN ON!!! Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Killed Lian and hacked off Roy's arm.
Posted by Kid Charlemagne on :
*sigh*
Remember when they used to know how to tell good comic-book stories without all the pointless suffering and death? Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Sadly yes.
And even sadder still, it looks like Roy's either gonna go anti-hero or villain.
Sadder than that, if not for this I would've never been interested in the two.
Sorry to ruin your birthday.
Posted by Kid Charlemagne on :
You didn't ruin it, but as I noted earlier, this makes me glad I had to quit superhero comics. I specify "superhero" because I still read some manga, mostly gentle stuff like Lucky Star. Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I dropped all Titans, JLA, and Green Arrow-related books in protest. Except Tiny Titans.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Now I've lost any interest in Brightest Day.
TITANS #26 Written by ERIC WALLACE Art and cover by FABRIZIO FIORENTINO 1:10 White Lantern Variant cover by RYAN SOOK, FERNANDO PASARIN & JOEL GOMEZ Straight out of the JUSTICE LEAGUE: THE RISE OF ARSENAL miniseries, Arsenal signs up with Deathstroke and Cheshire when the Titans target a child slavery ring for takedown. What they unearth will shock you to the core! Retailers please note: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the Previews Order Form for more information. On sale AUGUST 11 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US
Posted by Kid Charlemagne on :
I remember a poignant scene with Lian after Donna Troy got killed off for a while. Lian couldn't understand why everyone was so sad--wouldn't Donna just come back like Superman and Uncle Ollie did?
And later, sure enough, Donna came back.
If even Kara Zor-El can come back, there's hope for Lian.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
There better be hope.
Posted by Candle on :
Part of my Lian eulogy:
original photo by PancakePal
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Didn't you mention you have a DeviantArt account?
Posted by Candle on :
Yes, I just haven't had the time or energy to actually post anything there yet. Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
What's your name on there, though?
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Posted by Red Arrow on :
I am upset at Lian's death because it highlights how deconstructive comic books have become. I am not against having heroes suffer, but there has to be a pay-off.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
You mean like Roy turning into DC's Punisher?
Posted by Red Arrow on :
Well, considering what Marvel has done to the Punisher there may be a market out there. However, DC already has a character like that in The Vigilante. Now why doesn't DC use The Vigilante? I think it has to do with a series of essays by a real life attorney. I can't find the link a this moment, but he destroyed the basis of The Vigilante's motives.
A reason I found on the DCMB is that Lian's very existance ages Roy. She's a casulty of the clamor for a more Silver Age feel to comics.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
... that is a rather stupid reason.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Rise of Arsenal #4 review from Newsarama
Review by Kevin Huxford
Well, that's over. We've quite possibly seen four of the top ten worst superhero comic books ever... all spawned from one mini-series, generated from a previous mini/event that is starting to look respectable in comparison (Justice League: Cry For Justice).
There's been a lot of focus on this series. All of it negative...and all of it deserved. All but the first issue have had three pencil artists and at least two inkers. For the life of me, I can't understand why. It wasn't rush solicited and it isn't such an important book that several others would be damaged by it running late. The only explanation I can come up with is constant re-writes. Why do I feel this is likely the case?
Because one of the hallmarks of the series, continued in this issue, is inconsistency and things that just don't make any sense.
We have keys switching sides on an orderly's belt and his co-worker seemingly oblivious to physically struggling with Roy. Then there's a super-villain wearing his costume under his prison uniform and then having that directly contradicted by a comment by Harper. Of course, a jailed Green Arrow walking around in his full costume barely gets one to bat an eye after that. We have terrible perspective in the art, with blades that go from looking like knives to short swords and back again from one panel to the next. One of those blades somehow pulls a cellblock switch when thrown straight, which manages to damage the reader's ability to suspend disbelief more, something that previously seemed impossible. Yet I still paused out of incredulity when I noticed a large blotch of blood somehow wind up on a wall that would have been shielded by the attacker's body.
There's not much to say about the writing that hasn't already been said in reviews all across the internet for the first three issues. It's written at all times for extreme shock value, which leads to a product that only manages to be entertaining through the same way one might enjoy a movie that wins a Razzie: laughing with friend at how bad it is, as you gather together to pick it apart.
Posted by Red Arrow on :
I think the idea to have Green Arrow wear his costume in prison is a direct result of Marvel. I think it was Bendis who established that villains could where their costumes because of good behavior.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Again, stupid.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
We have now reached 300 on facebook.
And 147 on DA with 156 watchers.
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O’Shea: In the Legion book, the current storyline features the kidnapping of Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad’s twin children. Were you hesitant to build a plotline around putting the heroes’ children at risk, given the recent negative reaction to the death of Liam (Roy Harper’s daughter) in the Justice League: Cry for Justice?
Levitz: I haven’t followed the reactions you’re referring to, but I think there’s a reality to children being at risk in the world, and certainly in the melodramatic world of the Legionnaires’ lives, it’s not unexpected.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
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can come back, there's hope for Lian.
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