Bear in mind it's not complete, but this is the last six or seven years.
Acarinus A Firefly Agent Liberty Agent Liberty II (Debatable) Airam Sappal Air Wave Alexander Luthor Jr. of Earth-3 Alexander Nero Alex Montez Alias the Spider II (Debatable) Alura of New Krypton Americommando David of First Strike Amon Sur of the Sinestro Corps A’Morr Amos Fortune Anima of the Teen Titans Animal Man (Brought Back) Annataz Arataz Antaeus Aquaman (Resurrected) Arak the Wind Walker of Helix Ares Argus of the New Olympians Arin Sur Arion Artin of the Omega Men Arx of the Green Lantern Corps A Royal Flush Gang (Infinite Crisis) Ash of the Green Lantern Corps Auron of the Omega Man Azraeuz the Horseman of Death Ballistic of the Blood Pack Barbara Gordon of Earth-43 Baron Blitzkrieg Batman Clone (Revived, then died again) Batman of Earth-30 Batman of Earth-40 Batwoman (Revived by Lazarus Pit) Batwoman’s Mother Barry Allen of Earth-51 Baby Wildebeest of the Teen Titans Big Barda of the New Gods Bigfoot of S.H.A.D.E. Big Game I Black Bison Black Condor II Black Fang Black Flash Blackguard Black Hand (Resurrected) Black Hand’s Family Black Mask Black Mass Black Spider II Blinky Blockbuster II Blue Beetle of Earth-33 Blue Beetle of Earth-39 Blue of the Rainbow Raiders (In unpublished scene from Blackest Night. Debatable) Blue Snowman Bob the Monitor Bolt Bombshell (Resurrected) Booster Gold (Death faked) Boss Dark Side Boy Blue of Seven Soldiers Brahma Brain Branca, the Second Batman “Ghost” Breach Breathtaker Brick Brother Blood Brown Recluse Brunt Brutale Buddy Blank of Earth-51 Bug Burn Bushido Bzzd Cain’s Followers Calcutta Captain 7 Captain Atom of Earth-38 Captain Boomerang I (Resurrected) Captain Boomerang II Captain Cold’s Father Captain Comet (Resurrected) Captain Stingaree (Debatable) Carissa Carny Cassandra Cain (Lazarus Pit) Cavalier (Debatable) Cecilia of the Omega Men Cedric of the Blackhawks Cerdian Chairman Vunderbarr of Dark Side Club Chantale of the Omega Men Charaxes Chaselon (Debatable) Chaser Bron Cheetah Priscilla Rich Chill Chop Suzi Chris Kent of Earth-15 (Or 16) Christina a.k.a. Lady Flash Chroma Chronar Chthos-Chthas Chthatis Chuck Sirianni of the Blackhawks Citizen Steel’s Brother Citizen Steel’s Mother Citizen X Clayface VII Clayface III or V (From Cry for Justice, never really differentiated) Composite Superman Computron Condiment King Controllers Copperhead Copperhead II’s Baby Sibling Council Crime Doctor Crimson Ghost Crispus Allen (Returned as Spectre) Crispus Allen’s Son (Resurrected) Cundiff Cood Cyborg of Earth-15 Damage Daniel Dickerson Dan Turpin Dark Flea of the Omega Men Dark Ranger Darkseid David Reid (Reborn as Magog) Death-Dealer Deborah Camille Darnell Star Sapphire Derek Trevor Desaad Diana Disruptor II Disruptor II’s Stepmother Doctor Diehard of New Earth-8 Doctor Dread Doctor Gotham Doctor Light Doctor Moon Doctor Polaris Doctor Polaris II Doll Girl I Dolphin Donna Troy (Resurrected) Donna Troy Wonder Woman of Earth-15 Don Vincenzo a.k.a. Kid Scarface Doodlebug Double-Header Dozens of Captain Atoms from the Multiverse Dragonmage Dream Girl of Earth-Prime (Resurrected) Dr. 13 (Resurrected) Dubbilex Duela Dent Duel Eknham Dybbuk Dynamole Dyno-Mite Dan Earth-15 (Planet) Ebeneezer Badde Effigy Ekron El Diablo I Electrocutioner Element Lad of Earth-Prime Elongated Man El Sombrero Ena of the Quintet Endless Winter Enkafos Eradicator David Connor Ermey E.S. Pete Everyman (Resurrected, then killed again, apparently) Evillo Eye Face Fake Shark Fastball Fel Andar Ferrin Colos Fever Fiddler Fireface First Squad K Fisherman I Fisherman II Freedom Beast Fury III a.k.a. Amazing Woman Galahad the Giant Killer Galius Zed Garth Aquaman of Earth-15 Gas Bag Gehenna Geiger Geist General Glory II General Immortus (Came back… somehow) General’s Brother General’s Sister G. Godfrey Goode Ghost Lion Gimmix Gizmo II Gladiator Giant Gleen Gloriana Tenebrae Glorith Gloss Goldstar’s Boyfriend Gonzo the Mechanical Bastard (Turned into an orphan box) Goth Granny of Dark Side Club Granny Goodness Greb Green of the Rainbow Raiders (In unpublished page from Blackest Night. Debatable) Gretti Griffin Grojamm Guardian of the Universe (Sinestro Corps War) Guardian of the Universe (Blackest Night) Guardian of the Universe (Blackest Night) Hal Jordan of Earth-5 Hank Hall (Resurrected) Harbinger Harley Quinn of New Earth-3 Hands Harm Harold Harpis of the Omega Men Hawkgirl (Resurrected) Hawkman (Resurrected) Hawkwoman Hector Hall Helen “Sky High” Helligan Hellhound Herr Superman of Earth-8 Holly Granger Hook Horku Human Bomb I Hyena Hyperion Ibis the Invincible I Ibis the Invincible II (Left for dead) Ice-Sickle Imecsub Immortal Bald-Man-In-Armor Indigo Indigo of the Rainbow Raiders (In unpublished page from Blackest Night. Debatable) Inertia Invisible Hood Iris West of Earth-51 Iron Cross Iron Hand Isis (Resurrected and turned to stone) Jack Jack B. Quick of New Earth-8 Jack Drake Jackhammer Jack of all Trades Jack of Fire Jack T. Chance Jacob Colby a.k.a. Starman II Jade (Resurrected) Janos Prohaska (Revealed Alive) Jason Todd Batman of Earth-15 Jean Loring Jean Loring of Earth-51 Jean Paul Valley Jennifer Hayden of Earth-9 Jeryll Jeryll’s Husband Jessica Palmer Atom of Earth-15 Jezebel Jet Jim Corrigan (One who killed Crispus Allen) Jin Si Jonah McCarthy Jonathan Mayhew Johnny Mimic Johnny Quick Joker of New Earth-2 Jokester Junior Junkyard Kalibak’s Tiger Form Kalista of the Omega Men Karate Kid Karate Kid II, Myg Ke’Haan Kendra Saunders KGBeast Kid Amazo Kid Devil Kid Flash II (Resurrected) Killer Wasp Killshot Kinetix King Snake Kiteman Knockout Kobra I Kreon Kryb’s Children KT21 Kyle Rayner (Revived) Kyle Rayner’s Mother Lady Liberty II Lady Liberty III Lady Liberty from Everyman Project Lady Shiva (Lazarus Pit) Lady Spellbinder Laira Lance Harrower Larry Marcus Laurie Lemmon of Earth-Prime Legionary Leland McCauley Lex Luthor of Earth-15 Lian Harper Libertine Lieutenant Gor from New Krypton Lightning Lightning Bug Lightray Lilith Clay Limina Lois Lane of Earth-2 Lori Lemaris Loser Lucas Ludlow-Dalt, Alias the Spider II Lunkhead Lynx Lyta Hall Madmen Magpie Major Disaster Major Victory II Manchester Black Mandrakk the Dark Monitor Mangrove Pierce Manhunter Dan Richards Manhunter Chase Lawler Manhunter Kirk DePaul Manhunter of Earth-9 Manitou Raven Manticore Mariek Martian Manhunter (Resurrected) Martian Manhunter of Earth-15 Marvin Harris Mary Marvel of Earth-9 Maximum Maxwell Lord (Resurrected) Meershom Melinda Spyros of the Sea Devils Metron Mick Wong Mikaal Tomas’ Boyfriend Minute-Man Mirage Miri Riam’s Husband Mirror Man Mirror Monarch Miss America (came back) Miss Army Knife Mister Element II Mister Magic Mister Melmoth Mister Miracle I Mister Miracle II (Escaped from death) Mister Polka-Dot Mister Silencio Mokkari Molecule Mongal Mongrel Monocle Monsieur Mallah Mordecai Bleak, Klarion’s stepfather Most of the Rocket Red Brigade Moxie Mannheim Mr. America II Mr. America II’s Family Mr. Grayson of Earth-43 Mrs. Grayson of Earth-43 Multiple Atomic Knights Multiple members of Citizen Steel’s Family Munchuk Myrrt Nabu Narok Natalie Reed of the Blackhawks Negative Woman Neh-Buh-Loh Nemesis II N-Emy Neptune Perkins Neron Neutron Kew Krypton (Planet) New Sportsmaster in Run! Nhoj Sappal Nightblade Nightshade from Countdown: Arena Nimbus of the Omega Men Noddy Nosa’Elg Nox Nudge Nuklon II Nyssa Ratko Oeneone Oho-Besh of the Omega Men Olaf Friedricksen of the Blackhawks Onimar Synn Orange of the Rainbow Raiders (In unpublished page from Blackest Night. Debatable) Orca Orca’s Husband Original Guardian Orion Orpheus Osiris (Resurrected) Outburst Overgirl Overthrow Pa Kent Panda from All-New Atom Pantha Parademon Parasite Alex Allston Pariah Pawn 502 Peacemaker Penny Dreadful Perseus Hazard Persuader II Persuader III’s Father Persuader III’s Mother Phantom Lady II Pistolera Plasmus Poledancer Power Boy Pristine Professor Carter Nichols Prometheus II Prometheus III Propaganda Proteus Provoke Psimon Psycho Pirate Puma Punch Pyrogen Quantum Storm of Earth-37 Question Qull of the Five Inversions Quond Ragdoll Ralph Dibny of Earth-51 Ranx the Sentient City Ra’s al Ghul (brought back) Ratcatcher Ray of Earth-10 Ray Palmer of Earth-51 Razorsharp Reactron Red of the Rainbow Raiders (In unpublished page from Blackest Night. Debatable) Reemuz Remac Remnant Nod Rest of the Five Inversions Minus Atrocitus Rex Hunter Riddler of New Earth-3 Ricky Robot Rising Sun R.J. Brande Rocket Red Dimitri Rocket Red 48 Rocket Red 213 Rogga the Horseman of War Rond Vidar Ronnie Raymond (Reborn) Rosie Rox Ogama Roy Harper Green Arrow of Earth-15 Rustam Ryan Choi Rynoc of the Omega Men Saarek Sally Sonic Sam Lane Sandblast Sandstorm Sargon the Sorcerer Sarolis Savitar Scar Schlagg-Man Scoopshovel Sebastian Ballestros Seer of the Omega Men Selina Kyle’s Brother-In-Law Senator Henry Knight Sensei Sewer King Shade from Countdown: Arena Shazam (Resurrected) Shlagen of the Omega Men Shock Trauma Silent Majority (Debatable) Silver Sorceress of New Earth-8 Simyan Sister Wrack Skwaul Slingshot Slizzath Soapy Sobek Soldat Solomon Grundy (Debatable) Squid Sparta Spin Spin Doctor I Spook Stallion Stake Starbreaker Stargirl’s Dad Starman of Earth-17 Starman of Earth-33 Starman of Earth-48 Stealth Steamroller Stephanie Brown (Never Really Dead) Steppe Steppenwolf Steppenwolf of Dark Side Club Steve Trevor of Earth-2 (Original Earth-2) Steve Trevor of Earth-21 Sue Dibny Sue Dibny of Earth-51 Sulli Stellamaris (Debatable) Sun Boy of Earth-Prime Superboy II (Resurrected) Super Chief Superman of Earth-2 Superwoman Lucy Lane (Revived) Surge of Earth-50 Taia Takion Talia al Ghul (Killed and brought back repeatedly) Tanakata Z Tarantula II Tarkus Whin Tasmanian Devil Tattooed Man I Tattooed Man III’s son (Mark Richards Tattooed Man, or whatever his name is) T’Charr Technocrat Ted Kord Tekla Tempest Tempter Terataya Terra II Terra-Man Thara Ak-Var Thia Thinker II Thormon Tox Thulka Ra Thunder Time Commander Time Trapper Timothy Ravenwind Tim Trench Tim Zanetti’s Son Tin Man of Earth-8 Titan (Planet) TNTeena Top Tornado Ninja Toy Trajectory Travis Morgan, the Warlord Trickster I Tri-Eye Twister Ugg-I “Uglyhead” Ultraman of Antimatter Earth Una Vandal of the Omega Men Velocista Vengeance Ventriloquist I Ventriloquist II Vice Vigilante I (Resurrected) Violet of the Rainbow Raiders (In unpublished page from Blackest Night. Debatable) Vulcan from Son of Vulcan Vulcanus Vulko Wade DeFarge Walter Pratt, Kate Spencer’s Father Walt Trigger Wandjina of New Earth-8 Warden Daniel of Enclave M Warp Waverider Wayne Trigger Weather Witch Weather Wizard’s Son Wesley Dodds Clone Created By Vandal Savage Whip White Dragon (Debatable) White Star Windfall Wingman Winky Wintergreen Wizkid Wonder Woman of Earth-2 (Original) Wonder Woman of Earth-18 Wu Cheng of the Blackhawks Xax Yasemin Soze Yellow of the Rainbow Raiders (In unpublished page from Blackest Night. Debatable) Yellow Peri (Possibly) Yeti Young Frankenstein Zaneth Zatara Zillo Valla Zirral Zod Superman of Earth-15 Zor Zor-El Zorrm the Horseman of Pestilence Zviad Kolodenko Zymyr (Debatable)
This list comes down to 654, but you still have to factor in...
Dozens of Green Lanterns, Sinestro Corpsman, and Red Lanterns, each...
All of the New Gods...
Those who died in the Everyman Massacre...
Those who died in Bialya, Bludhaven, New Krypton, Earth-15, Earth-51...
But I didn't add Lanterns who didn't have names.
[ July 17, 2010, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: Sarcasm Kid ]
Posted by Dev Em on :
You may want to seperate the resurrected ones into a second attached list for ease of browsing. Just a suggestion.
Posted by Dev Em on :
Also, in regards to the cannon fodder Lanterns...I don't really count those as to the fact that they were made for that sole purpose. Lanterns of any kind that have been around a while I would count though.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Kay... but I don't know whether to count the New Gods since they never clarified if it really was the ones who died in Death of the New Gods or if they're new versions.
The ones who've come back in the last six or seven years...
Animal Man Anti-Monitor (Died before 2003) Aquaman Arisa (Died Before 2003) Barry Allen (Died Before 2003) Batman Clone (Dead again) Batwoman Black Hand Bombshell Boodikka (Died Before 2003) Booster Gold (Death faked) Captain Boomerang I Captain Comet Cassandra Cain Chief (Before 2003) Crispus Allen's Son Dawn Granger (Before 2003) Deadman (Don’t know if this counts as he started out dead) Donna Troy Dream Girl of Earth-Prime Dr. 13 Elasti-Girl (Died Before 2003) Everyman (Dead again) General Immortus Golden Eagle (Dead before 2003) Goldstar (Died Before 2003) Hank Hall Hannu (Died Before 2003) Hawkgirl Hawkman Hippolyta (Before 2003) Ice (Died before 2003) Isis I, Spyder Jack T. Chance (Dead again) Jade Jason Todd (Died Before 2003) Jet Johnny Quick (Died Before 2003/Died for real) Karate Kid of New Earth (Died Before 2003/Dead again) Ke'Haan (Before 2003/Dead again) Kid Flash II Kreon (Before 2003/Dead) Kyle Rayner Lady Shiva Lady Quark (Died before 2003) Laira (Before 2003/Dead) Martian Manhunter Metamorpho Miss America Mister Miracle II Osiris R'as al Ghul (Don’t know when he died) Reverse Flash (Died Before 2003) Ronnie Raymond Sam Lane (Died Before 2003/Revealed as not really dead then killed himself) Shazam Shimmer Stephanie Brown Superboy II Supergirl Kara Zor-El (Don't know if this counts or not) Superwoman Lucy Lane Vigilante I Young Frankenstein
64- 9 = 55
[ June 15, 2010, 11:55 PM: Message edited by: Sarcasm Kid ]
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by Dev Em: Also, in regards to the cannon fodder Lanterns...I don't really count those as to the fact that they were made for that sole purpose. Lanterns of any kind that have been around a while I would count though.
I was counting those, and the Sinestro Corpsman who were already established before they were killed, and the Red Lanterns...
Posted by Kent on :
Isn't Barry Allen now back, too?
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I know, I forgot to add him, hold on.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Updated!
Posted by Dev Em on :
Wesley Dodds...or was he over the time limit? Plus a Dr Fate or two
Posted by Dev Em on :
The original Starman
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Dodds was indeed over the limit. So was Fate He died in the 1990s. Hector Hall and Nabu are on the list.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Ted Knight and David Knight both died before this limit.
Posted by Dev Em on :
I loose travk of when things happen.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
No problem.
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
quote:Originally posted by Dev Em: Also, in regards to the cannon fodder Lanterns...I don't really count those as to the fact that they were made for that sole purpose. Lanterns of any kind that have been around a while I would count though.
Depending on the point of the list, I wouldn't necessarily count characters created in order to be killed off in a later storyline, either.
I definitely wouldn't count characters whose resurrections were already planned from the start, like Hawkman, Captain Comet, and Impulse.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Hold on, I updated the list again. It's now 325.
Posted by Klar Ken T5477 on :
I can't believe they killed Blue Snowman and Dyno-Mite Dan!
I have a soft spot in my heart for third-string characters who are offed just because you can't permanently kill the big guns- characters like Double-Header and Kid Psycho and just about everyone on this list.
I have a particular soft spot for characters who are killed off because they are unpopular with some group of fans: like Monstress or Jason Todd (oh, wait, he's back).
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
How was MONSTRESS unpopular?!
Blue Snowman appeared in Power Girl #7 and she got eaten by an alien.
Dyno-Mite Dan died in Seven Soldiers #0. We didn't even find out his real name until Bulleteer #2.
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
Wasn't the Dyno-Mite Dan in that case a Grant Morrison creation and not the Golden Age character? That would fall under "Born To Die". then.
Monstress was very unpopular with a certain segment of Legion fandom. You can check the various boards and Usenet for proof of this. I liked the character myself.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Yeah he was.
But she's so... perky and honest and upbeat and she could crushing your sprocking head if she wanted. Dearie.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
And the point is to show that the number of deaths in DC far outweighs the number of resurrections. In fact, the number of resurrections in the last seven years is pretty much the same number of the average amount of characters killed in a year.
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
quote:Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: But she's so... perky and honest and upbeat and she could crushing your sprocking head if she wanted. Dearie.
That's what I liked about her.
That's what other people didn't like about her. They won.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
And now she's an argument against bringing back Lian Harper. That they listened and people were unhappy with the result. Nice.
Also, now note that most of the characters who were brought back died BEFORE 2003.
Posted by googoomuck on :
quote:Originally posted by Klar Ken T5477: I have a particular soft spot for characters who are killed off because they are unpopular with some group of fans: like Monstress or Jason Todd (oh, wait, he's back).
Remember that the death of Jason Todd was voted on by the fans. I think to make a killing on extra copies of the death issue that and a dislike of the Jason Todd character.
Posted by superboymddjr on :
Hmmm...so question:
1 - Lynx is seen on the cover of the new Red Robin in August as it indicates she's alive...hmmm? I understand that she was supposed to be dead as same as KIng Snake....so she's resurrected?
2 - there was no mention on how Amos Fortune died at all and how did he got his face back to normal after scarred the half side...he was very much alive as seen in JLA making bets against Roulette.
3 - Lady Spellbinder - the punk one - dead? How?
4 - Neturon and Reactron - they were seen in Action/Supergirl/Superman issues...dead? I stopped reading the final chapters...so I take it that supergirl's mom finally kills them?
5 - Black Mass dead? Overthrow dead? Rising Sun dead?!?!? (Rising Sun was last seen in hmmm oh yeah "Dance" issues with those super young heroes team) Penny Dreadful - nooooooo no way - when did she died?
6 - I am not sure about Time Commander - he was last seen stealing a time hourglass - fooling both Snapper Carr and Cheetah into saving JLA members....created a diversion...right now, he disappeared.
7 -Ronnie Raymond "reborn" ?? how come its not the same as other 11 guys and gal that said "resurrected"?
8 - which Mirage? we have two Mirage - one is Batman's foe and one is a Titans member - so I presumed you mean the one Batman's foe, right?
9 - Agent Liberty - dead?? killed by CodeName: Assassin I presume?
10 - we have two Disruptors...so add "2" to her.
11 - you can add Dr Polaris II to the list as I remember reading that in Cry for Justice...or other book...?
12 - who is Fury III aka Amazing Woman? No relation to either Fury I and II or Amazing Man at all?
13 - Whip dead? from the one from JSA? which issue?
14 - Shock Trauma is the one from the Hangmen, right? I thought all the members were killed - killed in Infinite Crisis, correct?
15 - poor all members of Demolition Team dead?!? I would love to see them making a comeback...somehow. heh.
16 - Toy dead? the one from Doom Patrol...the one with Mr. Nobody's team, as at least she was supposed to be? that her?
enough questions, :grin:
Posted by superboymddjr on :
you forgot to add one more: Karate Kid II - Myg of Lythyl
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
The first Lynx died. I'm guessing the one in Red Robin is new as I've never really read Robin.
Amos Fortune got shot point blank in the face at the end of that fill-in arc of JLA before Robinson came on.
Spellbinder died in Infinite Crisis, she was gunned down.
Reactron died when they blew up New Krypton. HE was the bomb. Neutron died in Salvation Run.
Believe me, when you saw Rising Sun at the end of Dance, chances are he is dead. Penny Dreadful died in C4J.
Well he IS a time traveller, you never know.
I just said reborn, it doesn't mean anything. Sorry.
The Batman villain, he got his face bashed on the Crime Bible by Bruno Mannheim, who then ate him.
Yeah, Liberty was killed by Assassin.
Oh yeah, you're right in terms of Disruptor 2.
Oh yeah. No, he died in Blackest Night off-panel.
Fury III was Erik Storn from Luthor's Infinity Inc. He was also called Amazing Woman because... you don't wanna know.
Shelly Gaynor, the new Whip, died in Seven Soldiers #0.
The Hangmen faked their deaths, came back in Final Crisis: Revelations asking Libra to kill the Titans, and then the Spectre killed them.
I don't think all the members of the Demolition Team are dead.
Toy died this week in Doom Patrol #11.
Posted by Arachne on :
According to ComicVine Big Barda was seen alive at the end of Final Crisis.
Posted by Kent on :
I think PopArt Lad's decades-old prediction is true: In the future (our present), everyone in the DCU will be dead for 15 minutes.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by Arachne: According to ComicVine Big Barda was seen alive at the end of Final Crisis.
Well that's the thing. I wasn't sure if I should add the new Gods because I don't know if it's really THEM at the end of Final Crisis or some new version of them.
Posted by Arachne on :
Hmm, point.
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
This thread serves to explain why I don't really feel anything at all when a DC character dies or is brought back to life at least 90% of the time.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I'm glad I could be of service.
Posted by Dev Em on :
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: This thread serves to explain why I don't really feel anything at all when a DC character dies or is brought back to life at least 90% of the time.
Thing is...Marvel is not any better really. Not trying to start something, but Marvel has been on a role lately as well.
And let's not forget the Scourge saga in Cap all those years ago. Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
^Absolutely, I'm not saying Marvel is better or worse. Marvel for a long period of time was certainly the worst offender among the Big 2. But that has changed in recent years it seems, as since Didio has come on board for DC, the company's integrity in this regard (gratuitous killing of heroes) has declined sharply.
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by Dev Em: And let's not forget the Scourge saga in Cap all those years ago.
I'm still bitter about the Wraith and the Ringer. Posted by Dev Em on :
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: ^Absolutely, I'm not saying Marvel is better or worse. Marvel for a long period of time was certainly the worst offender among the Big 2. But that has changed in recent years it seems, as since Didio has come on board for DC, the company's integrity in this regard (gratuitous killing of heroes) has declined sharply.
Thinking back, can you pin it down (for Marvel) to getting worse when Marvel Knights started?
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Thank God I don't read Captain America.
Posted by Dev Em on :
That was a long time ago...there was someone (or mulltiple someones) running around killing e-level villians.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
You mean like Prometheus did with his little henchmen?
Posted by Dev Em on :
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: ^Absolutely, I'm not saying Marvel is better or worse. Marvel for a long period of time was certainly the worst offender among the Big 2. But that has changed in recent years it seems, as since Didio has come on board for DC, the company's integrity in this regard (gratuitous killing of heroes) has declined sharply.
Thinking back, can you pin it down (for Marvel) to getting worse when Marvel Knights started?
What I mean for Marvel is it goes back to the mid-90's, specifically when the Image guys left and Marvel felt the need to 'up its game'.
I don't think Joe Q & Marvel Knights are to blame for Marvel's woes in the same way Didio is. I feel Marvel has been that way for a long time. If anything, I'm surprised at how much restraint Marvel shows now that DC has surpassed them in this kind of gratuitous storytelling, because I would have figured years ago they'd just one-up DC some more and go even more gratuitous.
Of course, that didn't stop Jeph Loeb from trying to go that route in the Ultimate Universe but I dropped all of that so I'm not 100% knowledgeable about what is going on.
I guess I just always expected better from DC. I feel let down. Like the good one turned bad and not just bad, but *really* bad.
Posted by Dartalon on :
Some i didn't see on list
Arak the Windwalker (Justice League: Cry for Justice) Big Game I (Green Arrow) Crusaders (Freedom Fighters) * Citizen X * Libertine Death-Dealer (Green Arrow) Doctor Dread (Doom Patrol) Geiger (Teen Titans) New Olympians (Justice Society of America) * Antaeus * Argus * Diana * Nox * Proteus * Vulcanus Sewer King (52) Slingshot (Green Arrow) Vengeance (Green Arrow)
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I feel bad for Loeb. His Batman stories are about the Holy Grail of Batman stories, and then I've heard about this whole Ultimatum thing...
I'm starting to think pod-people are invading, and their first victims were Loeb and Robinson.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by Dartalon: Some i didn't see on list
Arak the Windwalker (Justice League: Cry for Justice) Big Game I (Green Arrow) Crusaders (Freedom Fighters) * Citizen X * Libertine Death-Dealer (Green Arrow) Doctor Dread (Doom Patrol) Geiger (Teen Titans) New Olympians (Justice Society of America) * Antaeus * Argus * Diana * Nox * Proteus * Vulcanus Sewer King (52) Slingshot (Green Arrow) Vengeance (Green Arrow)
Oh I remembered those New Olympians and that Arak guy! But I couldn't remember their names so I didn't want to add them yet.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
And now we are at 355.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
373.
Posted by superboymddjr on :
Hmmm don't know if you remember....Condiment King....hmmm some Misfits former villains from the Human Flame series - RUN! I think Human Flame killed at least 5 or 6....hmm.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Oh God, hold on...
Posted by Dartalon on :
Captain Comet (Resurrected in younger body) (52, reborn in Mystery in Space v2) Eye (Strange Adventures) Hook (Faces of Evil: Prometheus) Jonah McCarthy (Checkmate) Puma (Suicide Squad: Raise the Flag) Ricky Robot (All New Atom) Sinestro Corps (R.E.B.E.L.S.) * Meershom * Narok Skwaul (R.E.B.E.L.S.) Stake (Outsiders) Starbreaker (Justice League of America) Starro's High Vanguard (R.E.B.E.L.S.) * Acarinus * Blackfang * Brunt * Chronar * Limina Thulka Re/Green Lantern (Wonder Woman) TNTeena (Terror Titans) White Star (Teen Titans, mentioned only) Yeti (52) Young Frankenstein (Resurrected) (World War III Book 3: A Call to Arms)
And those referred to by superboymddjr from Final Crisis Aftermath: Run.
Brown Recluse Condiment King Miss Army Knife Mister Polka Dot N-Emy Phoney Baloney Sportsmaster
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I'm about to update it...
And I don't count the undead. I added Solomon Grundy on there only because he got tossed into the freaking sun.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
FOUR HUNDRED AND ELEVEN.
Guys, I'm scared.
Posted by MLLASH on :
SILVER LINING DEPT.
When compared to how many people died in the real world the last 7 yeats, 411 sounds positively pleasant. Posted by Dartalon on :
Stake should probably be removed on your next update he falls under the same category as Young Frankenstein as one of the Undead (vampire)
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Oh I didn't know.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: SILVER LINING DEPT.
When compared to how many people died in the real world the last 7 yeats, 411 sounds positively pleasant.
True, but one could also factor in the amount of characters killed when they destroyed Bialya, Star City, Bludhaven, Earth-15, Earth-51, Titan...
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
quote:Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid:
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: SILVER LINING DEPT.
When compared to how many people died in the real world the last 7 yeats, 411 sounds positively pleasant.
True, but one could also factor in the amount of characters killed when they destroyed Bialya, Star City, Bludhaven, Earth-15, Earth-51, Titan...
True, but when one factors in that the people Lash is referring to were, you know, *real*, it's a different story.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Alright, fine, I'll put Young Frankenstein on there...
Posted by superboymddjr on :
errmm...i think you re gonna hate me....Miss America died and came back as Miss Cosmos....from Freedom Fighters series.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Gotcha.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
432.
Someone, please, shoot me now and let me end my suffering.
Kidding!
Posted by superboymddjr on :
hmmm Tarantula II? is that Catalina? I thought she was last seen alive in recent Secret Six...?
TRAVIS MORGAN the WARLORD dead?!?! HOW?
Zatara? you mean Zatara II? He still alive in the back up feature in Teen Titans. Hmmm same or different Zatara?
Psimon - was he killed during the Salvation Run, right?
AND DONT FORGET TO ADD Myg of Lythyl (Karate Kid II) to the list!
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
quote:Originally posted by superboymddjr: hmmm Tarantula II? is that Catalina? I thought she was last seen alive in recent Secret Six...?
TRAVIS MORGAN the WARLORD dead?!?! HOW?
Morgan was killed off by none other than Mike Grell during the current Warlord series (which is ending in an issue or two).
I thought Catalina met her end in the Secret Six arc in which she appeared, which was in the first few issues of the title.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Why do I keep forgetting to add Myg? Sorry.
Oh, and Zatanna's dad, Giovanni Zatara. Granted he was already dead, but they wiped out his soul in Reign of Hell.
Posted by Dartalon on :
A few more
Calcutta (Nightwing) Death Rattle (Arkham Asylum: Living Hell) Doctor Polaris II (Blackest Night) Doodlebug (Arkham Asylum: Living Hell) Dragonmage (Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds, revealed) El Diablo I (El Diablo Vol. 2) Evillo (Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds, revealed) Gas Bag (Robin Vol. 2) Glorith (Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds, revealed) Junkyard Dog (Arkham Asylum: Living Hell) Lunkhead (Arkham Asylum: Living Hell) Manhunter/Dan Richards (Manhunter Vol. 3) Manhunter/Chase Lawler (Manhunter Vol. 3) Manhunter/Kirk DePaul (Manhunter Vol. 3) Melinda Spyros of the Sea Devils (Aquaman Vol. 6) Remac/Salah Miandad (Outsiders) Rocket Red #48 (Teen Titans, revealed) Rocket Red #213 (Teen Titans, revealed) Wizkid (Birds of Prey)
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Oh dear God...
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Updated. We're dangerously close to 500.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
And now we are. 542.
Posted by Dartalon on :
Everyman Project (52) * Crimson Ghost * Dynomole * E.S. Pete * Fireface * Gladiator Giant * Immortal Bald-Man-in-Armor * Jack of All Trades * Lady Liberty * Poledancer * Tornado Ninja
Green Lantern Corps (Green Lantern Corps Vol. 2) * Airam Sappal * Grojamm * Nhoj Sappal * Nosa'Elg * Quond * Tanakata Z * Zaneth
Green Lantern Corps (Green Lantern: Sinestro Corps Special) * Diamalon
Green Lantern Corps (Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Superman-Prime) * Steppe
Green Lantern Corps (Blackest Night: Tales of the Corps) * Ermey * Sarolis
Green Lantern Corps (Green Lantern Corps: Recharge) * Tarkus Whin
Hypotheticals (JLA: Classified) * Dybbuk * Ghost Lion * Jin Si * Marieke * Soldat * Velocista
Kid Amazo (JLA: Classified)
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I'll be honest with you. I'm thankful for your help, I really am...
But this is really depressing, don't you find?
Posted by Dartalon on :
I have to agree.
Posted by Kent on :
ah, don't worry so much. Death in DC comics is easily reversible.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
For how long? They kept saying "dead is dead". It's gonna take this list and a lot of convincing to let them bring back a few and then shut the machine off for the next... three or four years.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Part of the problem is that the ease of "bringing back" characters makes killing them off that much easier. And that much more pointless, except for the gratuitous shock-value of it.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Considering the number of deaths compared to resurrections, resurrections are pretty rare.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Updated.
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
quote:Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: But this is really depressing, don't you find?
No.
I'm not particularly fond of it, but it isn't something I let get to me either.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Well I was kinda exaggerating, but yes, it's not something I'm fond of either, but putting this list together might serve an important purpose for me.
And I'm almost near the 600s.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
You think I should add Electrocutioner to the list? I mean, we all know Roy's gonna kill him next week.
Posted by superboymddjr on :
Vitruoso (Fiddler's replacement in Suicide Squad) name escaped me (Deadshot's replacement in Suicide Squad) both of them Blackest Night....Vitruso was shot down by Deadshot....
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I've got her... Yasemin Sorze.
And Virtuoso's not dead.
Posted by superboymddjr on :
really? oops my mistake.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
No prob.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Number's updated. Again.
Posted by Arachne on :
Two more in BoP today , but naming them would be a spoiler.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Very cool Sarky. Good article from what I read of it.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
I'm still giddy from finding out.
Posted by Jerry on :
Don't go near Batman: Widening Gyre unless you want more disgusting news. The awful details are contained in spoiler box below.
Click Here For A SpoilerAfter accepting Bruce Wayne's proposal, Silver St. Cloud gets her throat slit in a gruesome two splash page finale.
[ July 28, 2010, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: Jerry ]
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
In all honesty, I did not expect that guy to turn out to be him.
She can replace Ibis, who turned out to be alive today.
Posted by Jerry on :
I'm not sure if the story is supposed to take place in the current DC universe or not. Regardless, it isn't something I wanted to read. The sad part is that I was enjoying the heck out of this mini right up until the death scene.
[ July 28, 2010, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: Jerry ]
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
I'm with Jerry on that story. For someone as 'modern' and 'cool' as Kevin Smith, he sure does like to kill / maim / threaten to rape comic book women.
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
If this were Clerks you'd be complaining about gay jokes.
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
I'm a Kevin Smith fan from way back! I used to go to my first girlfriends house on the premise of watching Mallrats just to make out when her parents were upstairs. So I like Smith. I just think a lot of his comic book writing is pretty sucktacular. About 65% of it.
Sometimes he's actually quite good though (Green Arrow, for instance).
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
Well the only thing of his I've seen is Clerks: The Animated Series.
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, but naming them would be a spoiler.