Legion-related March 2010 Solicitations a - 12/19/09 02:30 AM
Spoilers: Big Bits of Legionnaire Business
I haven't seen much of the recent Legion News from Newsarama and other sources posted anywhere on the forum so I figured I'd start a thread that collects most of it.
Major Legion Spoilers for March and beyond.
The 21st century Legionnaire subplots are going to lead into a story called:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">
Brainiac and the Legion of Superheroes.
Adventure Comics will come out twice in March and the first issue of the month will kick off the Brainiac and the Legion storyline.
Details will no doubt make it into the March Solicits thread but until that time, here they are:
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091218-superman-march-2010-solicitations.html
Among the things we'll see are a showdown between Mon-El and Brainiac to save Superman and between Supergirl and Superboy(and there are several references to Superboy and the Legion in these solicits)...
This also should be the conclusuon of the Legion in the 21st century storyline that began during the Lighning Saga and it looks like the writers that will finish that storyline off are James Robinson and Sterling Gates.
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Speaking of Supergirl and the Legion:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">
In an interview at www.ustownhall.com Jamal Igle says upcoming storylines include Supergirl meeting Brainiac 5 and this Legion and what exactly is up between them.
Jamal also says there will be another crossover between Karan and dotRebels</span></span>
And finally, a recent DC nation by Paul Levitz himself about returning to the Legion. I know many think his return is going to be something great. So with that in mind...
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> a recent DC nation by Paul Levitz gave some major hints by Paul Levitz about his return to the Legion and the things he intends to do.
Among them are:
Blow up a Legionnaire's homeworld
Kill them
Screw up their lives
Marry them off
Starting adulterous affairs</span></span>
Personal opinion on the return of Levitz. It's pretty negative so don't click this if you don't want to read negative comments about Levitz and his impending return:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">
First of all, I hope he was joking in that DC Nation column.
Does he really think we are clamoring to see a homeworld blown up? It's only been two years since the last time it was done, and absolutely no one cared.
Sorry folks but every other time Levitz has written the Legion he has been the most knowledgable person in existence on the Legion, and that is no longer the case. In fact I would bet money that he is going to be the least knowledgable person about the Legion to write it regularly since the end of his run.
It has been 20 years since Levitz wrote the Legion regularly, he was never a truly great writer outside of his Legion work, in fact Jim Shooter has been a successful writer since Levitz has. So when I hear Paul talking about where he intends to pick up and what he intends to do, I know the Legion is pretty much at the end of it's road. They will not come back from this, at least not for a long time.
It's only been a year or two since the last time they blew up a Legionnaire's homeworld, and I notice many of the people celebrating Levitz reutn were also the ones keeping track of Johns' death toll in LO3W. So I am wondering how they reconcile that with Paul gleefully admitting how much he enjoys killing Legionnaires. Something else else I was well aware of from the last time he wrote the book. He doesn't just kill off obscure ones...he kills off the big guns.
It's great until he kills off one that's your favorite. And every Legionnaire is someone's favorite.
I don't look at Paul Levitz as the writer of note the last time the Legion was great, I look at Paul Levitz as the writer of note when the wheels came totally off and the decline started.
He is not going to pull readers on name alone. Certainly not to the degree Johns did.
He's certainly not going to be more in touch with the modern audience than Geoff Johns is, in fact I believe his writing style is more or less the embodiment of the most recent era to fall out of style in comics.
And imo, he was clearly out of touch with the Legion fans the last time he wrote the book.
It also sounds like he is going to create a confusing mess by incorporating things into the continuity of this Legion that Johns clearly didn't account for. I mean I already see clearly the status of Mon-El does not fit in any way with what he intends to do. It's great if it adds something, but it seems Paul is intent on subtracting more than adding,and that's always been his forte on the Legion anyway, subtraction, not addition. You can even tell he thinks it's this vast base of resources to slaughter at will...he doesn't realize this book has had it's resource base completely eradicated over the past 2 decades.
I don't really mind Paul killing off Legionnaires except for the fact that he habitually kills off good ones and leaves the crappy ones. And his replacements are never as good as the ones he kills off.
If you ask me it's a total disaster. I will stick around for the first major arc, which will probably his best(it always has been before) and skip the slow and tedious decline that will follow(it always has before). I won't even delude myself into waiting for him to follow up whatever initial success he has, because he's never come close to doing it before. I will not be reading the Legion regularly just to watch a more or less mediocre writer reign down hell and destruction on a Universe he never had the talent to create in the first place. I already did that once. It totally sucked.
</span></span>
I haven't seen much of the recent Legion News from Newsarama and other sources posted anywhere on the forum so I figured I'd start a thread that collects most of it.
Major Legion Spoilers for March and beyond.
The 21st century Legionnaire subplots are going to lead into a story called:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">
Brainiac and the Legion of Superheroes.
Adventure Comics will come out twice in March and the first issue of the month will kick off the Brainiac and the Legion storyline.
Details will no doubt make it into the March Solicits thread but until that time, here they are:
http:/
Among the things we'll see are a showdown between Mon-El and Brainiac to save Superman and between Supergirl and Superboy(and there are several references to Superboy and the Legion in these solicits)...
This also should be the conclusuon of the Legion in the 21st century storyline that began during the Lighning Saga and it looks like the writers that will finish that storyline off are James Robinson and Sterling Gates.
</span></span>
Speaking of Supergirl and the Legion:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">
In an interview at www.ustownhall.com Jamal Igle says upcoming storylines include Supergirl meeting Brainiac 5 and this Legion and what exactly is up between them.
Jamal also says there will be another crossover between Karan and dotRebels</span></span>
And finally, a recent DC nation by Paul Levitz himself about returning to the Legion. I know many think his return is going to be something great. So with that in mind...
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> a recent DC nation by Paul Levitz gave some major hints by Paul Levitz about his return to the Legion and the things he intends to do.
Among them are:
Blow up a Legionnaire's homeworld
Kill them
Screw up their lives
Marry them off
Starting adulterous affairs</span></span>
Personal opinion on the return of Levitz. It's pretty negative so don't click this if you don't want to read negative comments about Levitz and his impending return:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">
First of all, I hope he was joking in that DC Nation column.
Does he really think we are clamoring to see a homeworld blown up? It's only been two years since the last time it was done, and absolutely no one cared.
Sorry folks but every other time Levitz has written the Legion he has been the most knowledgable person in existence on the Legion, and that is no longer the case. In fact I would bet money that he is going to be the least knowledgable person about the Legion to write it regularly since the end of his run.
It has been 20 years since Levitz wrote the Legion regularly, he was never a truly great writer outside of his Legion work, in fact Jim Shooter has been a successful writer since Levitz has. So when I hear Paul talking about where he intends to pick up and what he intends to do, I know the Legion is pretty much at the end of it's road. They will not come back from this, at least not for a long time.
It's only been a year or two since the last time they blew up a Legionnaire's homeworld, and I notice many of the people celebrating Levitz reutn were also the ones keeping track of Johns' death toll in LO3W. So I am wondering how they reconcile that with Paul gleefully admitting how much he enjoys killing Legionnaires. Something else else I was well aware of from the last time he wrote the book. He doesn't just kill off obscure ones...he kills off the big guns.
It's great until he kills off one that's your favorite. And every Legionnaire is someone's favorite.
I don't look at Paul Levitz as the writer of note the last time the Legion was great, I look at Paul Levitz as the writer of note when the wheels came totally off and the decline started.
He is not going to pull readers on name alone. Certainly not to the degree Johns did.
He's certainly not going to be more in touch with the modern audience than Geoff Johns is, in fact I believe his writing style is more or less the embodiment of the most recent era to fall out of style in comics.
And imo, he was clearly out of touch with the Legion fans the last time he wrote the book.
It also sounds like he is going to create a confusing mess by incorporating things into the continuity of this Legion that Johns clearly didn't account for. I mean I already see clearly the status of Mon-El does not fit in any way with what he intends to do. It's great if it adds something, but it seems Paul is intent on subtracting more than adding,and that's always been his forte on the Legion anyway, subtraction, not addition. You can even tell he thinks it's this vast base of resources to slaughter at will...he doesn't realize this book has had it's resource base completely eradicated over the past 2 decades.
I don't really mind Paul killing off Legionnaires except for the fact that he habitually kills off good ones and leaves the crappy ones. And his replacements are never as good as the ones he kills off.
If you ask me it's a total disaster. I will stick around for the first major arc, which will probably his best(it always has been before) and skip the slow and tedious decline that will follow(it always has before). I won't even delude myself into waiting for him to follow up whatever initial success he has, because he's never come close to doing it before. I will not be reading the Legion regularly just to watch a more or less mediocre writer reign down hell and destruction on a Universe he never had the talent to create in the first place. I already did that once. It totally sucked.
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