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This may be well-known, but I just found out about it by accident the other day.

Anyway, Roy Thomas originally planned on including a gay male Harlequin among the members of Infinity, Inc.! Looks kind of cool!
I actually have never heard of this before! They should totally introduce that character now!
Here\'s the original article from which it's taken!
That would have been great! I'm sure the fact that Obsidian turned out to be gay is really more coincidental than anything else, but it is a nice parallel.
I still haven't actually read the article, but it looks like Obsidian started out as a junior version of the Spectre, which is kind of interesting!
I just read the article. It seems like Obsidian was always a GL offspring. In the first part of the article, Roy states that they considered the Spectre and Dr. Fate too powerful and so they didn't make offspring for them. But then later on he talks about an adopted African-American son for the Spectre.
I was reminded of the almost-existence of this character yesterday!

I wonder what his parentage would've been? Maybe a son of Molly Mayne by a previously unknown husband in the 1960s?

I guess Brainwave, Jr. also kind of stole the "child of villain" shtick.
Ooh, what if *he* was Merry Pemberton's son instead of Brainwave, jr.?
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
I was reminded of the almost-existence of this character yesterday!

I wonder what his parentage would've been? Maybe a son of Molly Mayne by a previously unknown husband in the 1960s?

I guess Brainwave, Jr. also kind of stole the "child of villain" shtick.


Would be cool if he were the step-brother of Obsidian and Jade! The timing wouldn't have worked for him to be the biological son of Molly Mayne and Alan Scott, though. But it would be cool for both Molly and Alan to have had children before their final, happy marriage with each other.
I much prefer that version EDE.

I note that the article has "Nightwind" instead of Northwind" at one point, just to add some Legion goodness. smile

"fun loving valley-boy" sounds like a male version of Comet Queen too.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac



Would be cool if he were the step-brother of Obsidian and Jade! The timing wouldn't have worked for him to be the biological son of Molly Mayne and Alan Scott, though. But it would be cool for both Molly and Alan to have had children before their final, happy marriage with each other.


Yeah, that would be cool. I love the idea of the team having two gay characters with very different personalities. Harlequin would the more flamboyant, very comfortable-with-himself one and Obsidian the dark, brooding one. And making them step-brothers makes for a potentially interesting dynamic.
Yeah! I can just imagine Harlequin inviting Obsidian to a brothers' night out. Jade pushes him to go, saying he should give it a shot, and tells him that she and Harlequin have already gone out. And Harlequin drags him to a gay bar, where he flirts easily with all the cute guys and tries giving Obsidian some tips.
and for bonus points, both Harlequin and Obsidian strike out - but while Obsidian obsesses over it, Harlequin is all "ah well, those guys don't know what they're giving up!"

Of course, this would be before Obsidian finds boyfriend Damon, as I love their relationship. And when Obsidian introduces Damon, Harlequin will be all "Oh my god, Todd, you really learn fast! And now you've surpassed me, your gay coach! I hope you two never break up, but if you do, I've got dibs - just kidding!"
I now completely dig this character and he totally exists in my personal alternate Earth-2 continuity!

Here is "Blue Dolphin" incidentally:

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Deep Blue - with ties to Neptune Perkins? or Aquaman? these water-based characters often end up getting the shaft though

and I notice that Hourman II was originally supposed to freeze time. A nice twist on the Hourman powers!
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
I notice that Hourman II was originally supposed to freeze time. A nice twist on the Hourman powers!


Isn't that what Morrison's version ended up doing as one of its powers?
The robot Hourman? Yeah, I seem to remember it doing just that!
It's interesting that there were proposals for a "children of the JSA" team going back to the late 50s. That would've massively screwed up the timeline, if they were supposed to be adults, as they would've had to been born in the mid-late 30s at least, prior to most of the JSA having super-hero careers!

Infinity, on the other hand, were starting to stretch things pretty late in the timeline for the JSAers to be having kids. Really, it probably would've made the most sense for any kids to be born in the period from 1951-1963, while the JSA was officially disbanded. I think the birth years given for the Infinitors in the original series tended to put them just a little bit later than that.
1940 - Sitting at the circus, 25 year old Bruce Wayne sees the tragic death of the Flying Graysons. He'd been thinking of taking on a partner. But he saw this as a sign not to endanger the lives of others. Instead, he would train his own son to help him. Soon, crooks across Gotham would fear the name of Bat-Tot!
But who is the mother?
No doubt a subplot for Bat-Tot to explore in Detective Comics. or he could just check to see who gets to change nappies when daddy's out fighting crime. No wait... Alfred does that.
The logical conclusion is: Bat-Tot is a clone!
>gasp< That sets up a really good parallel decades later when they encounter Ras Al-Ghul and his offspring, Ra-Tot! One trains clones as partners over decades while the other depends on a single one, but uses a Resurrection Pit to keep it healthy.
Ra-Tot would in fact hop from clone body to clone body - remember the dozens of fully-grown, mindless Ra's clones from the DNA era?

The ones that M'Onel and Star Boy couldn't take down because they both had gigantic Idiot Balls at the time.
Crumbs! If Ra-Tot is using Batman and Bat-Tot's cloning technology in the future, it would mean that Ra-Tot won!

Unless the clones that came out of the chambers only looked like Ras and Ra-Tot, but had in fact been reprogrammed by Bat-Tot to place the personalities of himself and Batman into different bodies!
this is getting too complicated for me. but i imagine both Batman and Ra’s are such strategic geniuses they can figure it out
Too complicated?! Wonder-Tot hasn't even shown up in her time travelling plane from Earth-Tot yet!
And Super-Tot hasn;t been rocketed from Krypton yet eihter
My fave Ra-Tot clone is Ra-Tot 2-E. He doubles as a delicious traditional vegetable dish!
And can also turn into a rat, making him invaluable for espionage
Originally Posted by Paladin
My fave Ra-Tot clone is Ra-Tot 2-E. He doubles as a delicious traditional vegetable dish!


The tot that takes infiltration so seriously, that he'll invade your digestive system to get to his target.
Because this tot wants to be special forever

Originally Posted by Paladin
My fave Ra-Tot clone is Ra-Tot 2-E. He doubles as a delicious traditional vegetable dish!


Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
And can also turn into a rat, making him invaluable for espionage


"there's a lot of rat in this ratatouille"
So, random Infinity, Inc. idea I had recently:

So, Nuklon is the grandson of Terry Curtis, aka Cyclotron, who was kidnapped and forced to work for the Ultra-Humanite, in part because of concern for his infant daughter, Terri. Terri's mother, it is said, had died because of his radiation experiments that had also affected the daughter.

Terry Curtis's original appearance was in Superman #21, during one of the Golden Age appearances of the Ultra-Humanite, where he is similarly reluctant to help the U-H. However, there's no mention of a wife or daughter, and , in fact, it's pretty clear that initially he's super-attracted to U-H (who "resembles" the actress, Delores Winters!), and is excited to be going on a date with her.

Okay, so the crazy idea: what if there is no dead mother? What if Terri Curtis were actually the daughter of Terry Curtis and the Ultra-Humanite, and he just invented the "dead mother" story as a cover?
Oh, my... eek

And then, five seconds after the initial shock, I remember that that was more or less Chris Claremont's original plan for Nightcrawler's parentage -- shape-shifting Mystique's default mode is female, but she was in male form when her lover Irene became pregnant with Kurt. So NC has two moms and a dad...except maybe its 2.5 parents, since his dad is also one of his moms... confused
So I feel this thread has become relevant due to the news from Flashpoint Beyond.
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Wow!
And it's the exact same design, nothing's been altered.
We now have a name for our Harlequin's Son. Michael Mayne.
I love it!
I LOVE MY GAY CLOWN SON
Every gay clown son just wants to hear their parents say that

*sobs into makeup and looks forlornly at large clown shoes*
So, I read the new JSA #1, featuring The All-Gay Male Harlequin from a Future Line-up of the JSA!

That was awful.
So, after being predictably murdered in the first issue, Michael Mayne makes another appearance in the latest JSA!

Only
the timeline he comes from apparently no longer exists!

Hope he somehow makes his way into the present day!
fingers crossed! we need our All-Gay Male Harlequin!!!
The things I miss by not reading comics any more! smile
It just occurred to me that with the GA Aquaman also back in continuity, that increases the probability that we might also get to see All-Gay Male Harlequin's fellow unused II buddy Blue Dolphin finally make an appearance in-continuity!
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Hope he somehow makes his way into the present day!

Yay! He's in #7!
YAY!
Tons of Michael Mayne content in #9!
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Tons of Michael Mayne content in #9!

This was giving me what I've been starved of regarding Duela Dent for so many years.
A Joker's Daughter/Harlequin's Son team-up would be awesome!
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
A Joker's Daughter/Harlequin's Son team-up would be awesome!

But the REAL Duela and not that whatever the HELL it is that's been running around with Joker jerky stapled to her head.
I'd forgotten about that abomination!
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
I'd forgotten about that abomination!

I wish I could, but not until she's been disposed of and the real Duela gets restored.
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