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Posted By: Lard Lad The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 03:53 AM
I'd say this a fair counter-thread to the recent "Worst Moments" thread. After all, there are many of us, myself included, who really adore the era and still lament its complete erasure from continuity.

Here are a few of my favorite 5YL moments (represented by their covers) in chronological order:

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Mon-El, defiantly and bravely standing up for what's right against the greatest evil he'd ever known--the thing that killed the man who was like a brother to him. Damn the consequences, he was going to end the threat once and for all. All under one of my all-time favorite Legion covers!

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Immediately, we see the consequences of Mon-El's actions: the Mordru-verse. Andrew Nolan lives in this alternate reality but proves as heroic as in the previous reality, fighting to restore a reality in which neither the Time trapper nor Mordru rule over all--even if though it means dooming himself to the grave.

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If we had to lose Kara and Kal from Legion history, we were blessed to have Laurel Gand in Kara's stead. I fell in love with her immediately and thrilled to see what was in essence Kara fully realized at last.

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This appears frequently on the "worst" list, but I think it's the most beautiful and experimental single issue of the LSH ever published. Maybe destroying Earth was a bad decision for the long haul, but there's no doubt in my mind that the issue and the moment are real keepers.


There are other great moments from 5YL, including more that appear on the "worst" list, but these really stuck out for me when contemplating this new topic.

What are the best moments of 5YL to you?
Originally Posted by Paladin


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This appears frequently on the "worst" list, but I think it's the most beautiful and experimental single issue of the LSH ever published. Maybe destroying Earth was a bad decision for the long haul, but there's no doubt in my mind that the issue and the moment are real keepers.



I completely agree with this one. Sometimes I wish this issue existed in a vacuum. It was beautifully done and still makes me shed a tear every reread. My main criticism is the lack of build-up to it in previous issues. But I very much like the way the issue itself was executed.

And Laurel Gand is love, and I very much agree that she is a wonderful addition to the Legion.

I also applaud the brief additions of Infectious Lass and Spider-Girl to the team. Both had powers which were, frankly, less than formidable before the 5YL. But they were used to great effect in this volume, and Spider-Girl was also shown as effective even without her living hair.

Kono, Computo II and Dragonmage are other good characters who were born in this run. Celeste, Devlin and Kent too, though I don't like them quite as much.
Posted By: Kappa Kid Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 03:59 AM
Well, I guess it's best to view both sides of the story, pardon the pun. tongue

This isn't really a "moment" per se, but Element Lad was written very well in this run up until the "Sean" reveal. I liked that TMK made Jan very introspective and spiritual.

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Posted By: Kappa Kid Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 04:01 AM
I also loved the Mon-El vs Time Trapper issue. It was one of the highlights of the run and showed his courage and selflessness.
Posted By: Fanfic Lady Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 04:15 AM
I've been racking my brain, and I can't think of anything that I don't have to add some caveat to.

For example, I like the way the Dark Circle evolved, but then it was revealed that Tellus had joined them. It almost felt like a deliberate wind-up of Tellus fans, among many other deliberate wind-ups.

And I think the first few issues of 5YL had a lot of promise, but I also think ultimately that promise vanished as the fill-ins piled up, slowing the pace down, and the payoffs to the various threads were often frustrating to me.

I'm not trying to be a troll, I'm just trying to explain why, even though think there were a lot of good ideas along with the bad and the ugly, none of them were executed to my satisfaction. I applaud 5YL's ambition and scope, but I abhor its execution and lack of a center.
Posted By: Kappa Kid Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 04:27 AM
I loved the issue where Cosmic Boy is having dinner with Mordru and is constantly planning his next move to free his friends. It's shows what a great tactical leader Rokk is.

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One of my faves:

The Li'l Legion issue.

A fantastic story, and a rare example of a Legion issue that, as I recall, doesn't feature a single character created before the Bronze Age (not counting Validus).

Sussa and Druda realy shine in this era.
But not forget the introduction of the sensual Veilmist.
She was possessing an effective power and a fascinating personality.
it is a shame that the Khunds were not allowing she to remain and afterwards she was dying trying to help to the Legion.
She might have been the great one allied
I have to agree, Veilmist is a very formidable teleporter. And because she teleports discrete objects, she is easily capable of feats that other teleporters like Gates or Nightcrawler are not.

Example, the time she teleported her teammates out from under the rubble that buried them. Gates would have had to gauge the location of his teleport disks exactly or else risk amputating a limb or a head; and he would have teleported the rubble along with each person. Nightcrawler would have had to make physical contact with each person he would try to rescue, and he could only do it one at a time.
(1) Laurel Gand. Rond Vidar. Lauren Gand.

(2) Lightning Ring Farms: the extended Ranzz Family, living a 'normal' life, at last, in the 31st century.
Posted By: thoth lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 08:18 PM
From Issue #2

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Posted By: Blockade Boy Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 10:16 PM
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Posted By: razsolo Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 10:36 PM
5YL is my favourite Legion! laugh Tenzil was amazing. Laurel was awesome, Mysa's story (at least to begin with) was really tragic but I felt very well done....I agree that the Earth explodey issue was done brilliantly, Giffen's art was at its best (which I know is a very polarising opinion)....really liked Cham and Rokk as the stable core of the team and both Kono and Sussa's relationships with Jo....the Subs....I could go on forever really, as much as there were big missteps I liked a whole lot more than I didn't like smile
Posted By: thoth lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/07/14 10:45 PM
The introduction of Laurel Gand.

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Posted By: Exnihil Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/08/14 01:50 AM
I've posted this moment before ("Crowning Moments of Awesome") but it's not just one of my 5YL favorites, but favorites of all time.


As Zero Hour hits, and the very timeline is collapsing all around them, Jo Nah receives a piece of info that spells the possibility that his long deceased love (the absence of whom informed his emotional journey throughout the whole of 5YL) could be - not is, mind you, but could be - still alive.

It's almost guaranteed suicide at this point to enter the time-stream to try to find her on only the thinnest of leads, but...

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That look! It just says, "Of course I do."
Posted By: matlock Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/08/14 03:29 AM
The ex-Substitutes effectiveness during the Terra Mosaic arc was a great turnaround from their reduction to comic relief a few years prior. It was maybe a bit of a cheat to have Stone Boy be able to move in stone form but I'll let that one go. (I know they explained it away with hypnotic suggestion something-mumbo jumbo.)

I also think Laurel Gand was a really good save of a bad situation; she didn't just plug holes in the timeline but actually developed into a solid character in her own right.
Posted By: Harbinger Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/08/14 07:57 PM
Like Raz, this era was my favourite. I had been aware of the team prior to this but they had never struck me as particularly interesting. I love this era up until the end of the Terra Mosaic or thereabouts.

The annual with Jo pitting Glorith and Mordru against each other was perhaps my favourite comic ever - certainly in the top three.

While not every single outrageous idea worked at least they were taken.
Posted By: thoth lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/08/14 08:06 PM
The introduction of Kent Shakespeare.

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A character who joined in the gap itself, and who never looked out of place on the team.
Posted By: Mediocre Boy Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/09/14 03:45 AM
God, I miss the 5-Year Gap Legion. The mature, innovative writing made the book then. Thanks to all of you for allowing me to relive some of my favourite Legion moments.
Posted By: thoth lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/09/14 07:04 PM
Great Vi & Ayla moments...

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Posted By: Lard Lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/09/14 10:31 PM
It should be remembered that the 5YL's depiction of openly gay couples was quite a novelty for mainstream comics at the time. A feather in its hat, I'd say.
Posted By: Lard Lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/09/14 10:34 PM
Originally Posted by Mediocre Boy
God, I miss the 5-Year Gap Legion. The mature, innovative writing made the book then. Thanks to all of you for allowing me to relive some of my favourite Legion moments.


Thinking back, I'd loved the Legion before 5YL, but I now realize that the time I loved it the absolute MOST was during that era. I honestly believe that I wouldn't be such a hardcore fan of the property or sought out internet fandom if 5YL never happened. It is, hands down, my favorite era of the LSH! nod
Posted By: thoth lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/09/14 11:05 PM
The finest moments of Tenzil Kem...

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"Oh, the TMK Legion was all dark and gritty and...and...dystopian!"
Yer ma wears your dad's vacuum nose!

There's really a surprising lack of discussion of POOP on these boards.
Posted By: thoth lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/09/14 11:30 PM
I can think of someone round here who could probably come up with their anthem...
Posted By: Fanfic Lady Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/09/14 11:36 PM
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
There's really a surprising lack of discussion of POOP on these boards.


Originally Posted by thothkins
I can think of someone round here who could probably come up with their anthem...


I guess that's me. So my scatological Burma Shave parody was that good, huh? wink

What's the full name of Tenzil's political party?

To be honest, my inability to ever remember what it stood for is the main reason I've never started a thread about it before!
Posted By: Fanfic Lady Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/10/14 12:04 AM
LOL Okay. I do still have those particular issues, so I'll look it up later.
Posted By: Fanfic Lady Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/10/14 12:50 AM
I just leafed through those issues, and I couldn't find the answer.

Guess I'll just have to wing it.

*sits at imaginary piano*

P-O-O-P.
Not to be confused with P-E-E.
Join hands with me
Make the people see
You just can't go wrong with P-O-O-P.
The great universal-izer
Led by the man with the mighty incisors.
P-O-O-P
Bound to set the people free-e-e.
Cast your vote today
You'll never go astray
If you put your faith in
P-O-O-P.


I think we might have something here. grin
Posted By: Kappa Kid Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/10/14 12:56 AM
The End of an Era storyline had one of the most moving endings in Legion history:

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That's a good one, BraJa. It was definitely a bittersweet moment. I did like the collection of "best" moments in the two=page spread. 3 from the Adventure Era, two from v3, one from 5YL. I only wish they could have fit in a few more!
Posted By: thoth lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/10/14 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Fanfic Lady
I think we might have something here. grin


Wow! With an anthem like that, it won't be long before we all realise that there's a little POOP in everyone wink
Posted By: Fanfic Lady Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 10/10/14 11:30 PM
LOL rotflmao

Like I said, the great universal-izer.
Posted By: Fanfic Lady Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 06/13/15 11:37 PM
In the name of fairness, since I bumped up the opposing thread to this one, I'm bumping up this one too.
Posted By: Kappa Kid Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 06/14/15 12:32 AM
I loved this exchange between Rokk and Vi:

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Posted By: Blockade Boy Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 06/14/15 12:44 AM
Fanfie brought up the Luck Lords story in the Levitz thread got me thinking about revisionist writing.



I wonder if Levirz' use of that method was any inspiration to Giffen and TMK.

Their revisions, mostly connecting of dots without serious change to anything else, raised Legion characters to S-Boy levels of importance. Many of them went from being products of accidents or just the best at their powers to having destined roles that shaped the galaxy.
Posted By: Kappa Kid Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 06/14/15 01:14 AM
This issue is very underrated IMO:

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I really "liked"-- in the sense of characterization-- Roxxas. His various renderings paralleling the Joker, Riddler, and Two-Face, both in art and story, were both subtle and clever. And he was a really nasty villain-- much better than the Daxamite Roxxas that came along later. The fact that he was employed by EarthGov / the Dominators made those organizations all the more threatening.


Posted By: wes connors Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 06/14/15 02:46 AM
I liked reading some of the special text features and Legion Outposts. Also enjoyed a couple of the annuals. Too bad it looked so dull. But, when the boring panel grid ended and art changed, it provided a best moment!
Posted By: thoth lad Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 06/14/15 01:18 PM
Echoing BraJa earlier, but this is one of Jan's best ever moments.

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Posted By: DrakeB3004 Re: The Best Moments of the 5YL Legion - 06/24/15 10:22 AM
God ... almost too many to mention - especially during the first dozen issues, but off the top of my head:
-- Jo recovering his "LLL" shaving kit after his building was bombed. Throw in Jo's added depth and pirate persona.
-- Mon-El kicking the Time Trapper's ass, regardless of the consequences.
-- Andrew Nolan and Rond Vidar being the heroes of the Mordruverse.
-- Venado Bay - it was "Lost" before "Lost" in terms of handling flashbacks. I always tear up reading the scene where Vi stops her men from killing Rokk despite having just taken out her eye.
-- Laurel Gand. IMO, she was better than Supergirl.
-- Roxxas as a chilling, credible threat.
-- Rokk's dinner with Mordru.

This might be my favorite Legion era despite having *zero* WILDFIRE, but every issue was exciting and filled with the kind of pathos that the previous Legion rarely had when they had it easy in the UP.
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