Warner Bros Entertainment and DC Co... of Super-Heroes movie during Comic-Con.

[video:youtube]https://youtube.com/shorts/d7cO-3q_3ZY?feature=share[/video]

Was surprised that no one posted about it here. So, here's the thread.

This appears to be a separate animated film from the HBO Max animated series that Bendis is developing. I'll add more details here as they become available.

Superhero Bits.

CBR.

Yes! I saw it on Saturday, but wasn't sure how "real" it was.

My current theory is that it's the Bendis show pilot episode, just repurposed and we haven't been told yet, since it usually takes a lot of time to get a full animated movie going, and a 2023 release usually means that some kind of production is already underway. Since the only production we are aware of is Benids', I'm assuming its that.

That or someone in DC Marketing REALLY messed up.

I'm kind of surprised, as either way, we've heard nothing since the early Saturday announcement from ANYONE - not Bendis and not DC. (as of this writing, that is)

Two different projects.Two different production companies. One is a series for HBO Max the other is a part of the Warner Bros. Home Entertainment’s DC animated movies.

Via DC Comics -


I'm assuming this will be the Supergirl and Legion of the DC Animated Movie Universe. Not related to Bendis' Legion nor Young Justice's Legion.

Thanks for sharing! My interest is piqued

Color me surprised! It's really hard to keep these things secret these days, so I imagine they are a ways down the production chain!

Thanks for the update!

Could this be what it was:

https://www.cbr.com/scooby-doo-legion-of-super-heroes-project-warner-bros-datamine/

It looks like a cameo for the last animated series in a Scooby/Krypto film. I don't think it's the film they announced at Comic-Con.

My guess is Grundy chases Scooby and Shaggy onto a cosmic treadmill that goes through a variety of scenarios and the animated Legion is one stop.

That's exactly what I thought as well, Nighty.

Still, its great to see the cameo!

The voice casting has been announced.

So stoked to see Arm Fall Off Boy, Chemical King among the cast! Also Invisible Kid, Bouncing Boy and Triplicate Girl (though less surprising for these last two as they already starred in the Legion toon series)

Brainy looks ugly again, but I'll deal if I get my KaraBrainy content.

... seriously though, what is it with recent animation and wanting him to be bald??

I hope it turns out to be enjoyable for all of you watching it.

I have no interest in it, but I'm happy for you.

Here's the pic with the article for future reference.

Also not a fan of bald Brainy... original Brainiac was bald, not our Brainy 5!

I'm disappointed Garth and Imra aren't in the cast list, but I'm hopeful for the story if Josie Campbell is the writer and not Bendis

It will be interesting to see what they do with Brainiac 5, since he is also listed as a new enemy for Kara. Also the voice cast lists Brainiac, Brainiac 2,3 and 4.

Nice to see Yuri Lowenthal back for this!

I saw that Invisible Kid will be in it, but it doesn't say whether it will be Lyle Norg or Jacques Foccart, or perhaps some kind of amalgam of the two.

My guess is it's Jacques, as the voice actor is black, but it's very possible they'll amalgamize the two of them.

This is what I saw immediately

I would not hate the notion of Jacques being the science-y geek who invents the invisibility formula, as the old 'black hero gets powers from something a white man invented' trope can go die in a fire. (Luke Cage, Jacques Foccault, Bill Foster, all given their powers by stuff a 'smarter' white guy made / did to them. Blue Marvel and Michael Holt, black inventor/geniuses, responsible for their own empowerment, are a step in the right direction.)

That said, I'm also a fan of Lyle, and would even more love to see both of them be co-inventors, and co-Invisible Kids, which appears to be something Bendis was considering for his Legion, suggesting at one point that both Lyle and Jacques were present at different times (one calling himself 'Invisible Gentleman?').

I would love to see both Lyle and Jacques co-existing, and having a close friendship/rapport like they did during Jacques’ brief stint in PZH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP2Aa23TzUg

Some interesting things here!

Interesting to note:

Kara goes to train at the Legion Academy. Students seem to include:

Dream Girl
Triplicate Girl
Bouncing Boy
Phantom Girl
Arms Fall Off Boy (or whatever)

Shadow Lass seems to be running the show.

It seems to be an amalgam Legion of sorts with elements of the Bendis Legion (AA LL, Energy wing Dawnstar) with other elements (Tyroc, Sensor Girl, Danielle COMPUTO)

They seem to be taking this seriously, which is a good thing.

I am cautiously optimistic

Me, too, and here I'd originally thought I wasn't going to watch it.

Shadow Lass in charge. With a good voice. And a look I approve of. All YAYS.

Batman still makes me sick, though.

Well, if its any consolation, he's the plot element that gets Superman to take Supergirl to the future, so he's probably not gonna get that much screen time.

We can only hope.

And just to make it clear to people who don't know me that well, I don't object to Batman himself so much as the characterization of him as a know-it-all with poor social skills.

It's looking good so far! Also saw glimpses of Invisible Kid II among the students. and of course Brainiac 5 and Mon-El are there too

I forgot to include Quislet as a student and Brin as maybe a teacher?

Here's the media release that just went out about the film...


And here is a link to the trailer, which is housed on the WBHE YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/DKNjOwuBDbo

Ah thank you, Nightcrawler! We don't have to wait long for that at all!

Is the character between Triplicate Gir/Triad and Phantom GIirl Suppose to be Stone Boy or Power Boy?

Looks like Stone Boy to me.

That looks quite good from the trailer. I like the setting and the setup.

GL I missed Quislet. When was that? Also you listed Tyroc. I didn't see him. There is the head of a figure that resembles him next to Saturn Girl and Cosmic boy at 0:47 but I was assuming that was Lightning Lad in his latest colouration, although the hair is different. Other than that I imagine the other dark skinned figure to be Jacques as Invisible Kid showing his white streak in his hair. Happy to be wrong.

Nice to see the press release nighty. Thanks. Confirms a few of the others. I wondered whether that was Luornu by the colour of her outfit and then she is shown duplicating at 1:01 and thought maybe Duo Damsel but we get the confirmation of Triplicate Girl from the press release. (Also she is shown triplicated on the box cover.)

I always get a little annoyed when Timber Wolf is drawn almost identical to Wolverine (see 1:02) but then what can you do? Seeing him as an instructor could be good.

I am curious to see what they do with the other Brainiacs listed in the credits. Just brief cameos? Probably but might be interesting if they are more.

Looks like Kara will be the focus character which makes sense from a business perspective and that could work well if she is the one through whom we view this world as spectators. She naturally has pride of place on the box art but again interesting to see Brainiac 5 and Mon-El as the other most prominent figures, followed by Bouncing Boy, Triplicate Girl, Dawnstar and Phantom Girl. This is not a picture of just Kara with a few hangers-on so that's good.

As a fan of the Kara/Querl relationship I look forward to the hints towards that from the trailer and his prominence on the cover. Not sure I like his look but you can't have everything. At least his apparent disappointment in the trailer suggest he won't be the cold, emotionless version too often copied from L.E.G.I.O.N.s Vril.

Cautiously optimistic with a little bit of excitement is my reaction.

ooh this looks fun! I like Kara instead of Clark taking centre stage for a change, and that there are so many characters in this trailer - 4 or 5 superheroes isn't a Legion after all

I don't love some of the character designs they've gone with, but the actual animation style is nice so that should make up for it!

OTOH if Brainy's forcefields are gonna look all hexagonny like on the cover image, I am very down with that!

Not sure if I saw this posted, Nighty, but here is a link to the Comicsbeat site that lists all the extras that the disc will contain:

https://www.comicsbeat.com/legion-super-heroes-animated-movie-release-details/

I'm REALLY curious to see how deep they go with the extras - are they going to go into ALL the Legionnaires or just the ones featured in the movie?

I'm listing them here for posterity as the rest of the Internet tends to fall off the face of the Earth now and then...

Quislet is in the classroom scene - it's just to the left of Dream Girl.

Tyroc is one of the holo statues near the front where you have Tyroc, Kid Quantim (Jazmin Cullen edition) and what is either Karate Kid or possible Vi.

(The rear most statues are the founders, Sensor Girl and Ferro are shown flying, then in front of them are the three above, then before them is Wildfire)

Thanks GL. Easy to see now you pointed them out.

Wow, I kept looking back through it for those three, but was staring too much at the frame at 47 seconds in which just shows the Founders, Sensor Girl and Ferro Lad, not the three in front! Stoked to see Jasmin and Tyroc at least recognized, and it not to be 100% just the up-to-Dawnstar, no one later, Legion that tends to appear in most continuities.

Stone Boy is a neat trainee choice and while I'm not the hugest fan of Arms-Fall-Off Boy, Gunn's Suicide Squad has at least made him a bit more recognizable, and it wouldn't be the Legion without one or more whacky unexpected supers like Matter-Eater Lad, with the sorts of powers that never make it onto most lineups. (Although the Legion has always had some less common choices, like super-intelligence or triplication/multiplication or bouncing powers, which most games faithfully reproduce, but sure don't show up much on the marquee teams like the Justice League or Avengers...)

Just saw the preview! Looks great and I can't wait to buy this when it comes out next year!!

I saw the promo for this today. It actually looks good! I hated the Legion cartoon from a few years back, but this actually looks promising!

Oh! Not to get too far afield of the thread topic, but what didn't you like about it, Lance?

Woo-hoo(!!!), Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to us ...

Just now seeing this, it looks GREAT, I for one am super-excited.. thanks for posting, Nightcrawler!!

Here's the latest release...


 

I'm gonna make a wild prediction here about a plot element in the movie:

Latest...

LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES Interview: Director Jeff Wamester Breaks Down His Approach To Epic Team-Up at ComicBookMovie

Well, shit.

That was about the most Legion averse interview about a Legion title I've ever read.

You'd think people would do a little research.

I didn't think it was BAD. He doesn't seem to be a super big Legion fan, but that hasn't turned into a dealbreaker for me.

Oh definitely not. It's usually that the creators have SOME connection to the characters...

Clip from the new movie...

Thanks Nighty, that is a cool clip!

That's definitely a neat clip! I'm really looking forward to this!

Clip from the new movie...

New media release just arrived in my email...

these scenes are cool... is that Dawnstar using tracking powers, or did they make her like that other animated Dawnstar with light powers? (tracking powers also make sense in the context that some Legionnaires are missing)

And Invisible Kid - love seeing Jacques be a bit flirty lol

I have a suspicion that there will be some pushback from the Negative Fandom Zone regarding Star Bright Dawnstar.

But I, for one, really like the look.

Neato - I like the Dawnstar look, personally.

I think I could come around to bright wing Dawnstar eventually, I can definitely see why they'd go that route for animation instead of using natural wings that are less flashy visually.

It may be in my head but I feel like artists have been drawing Jacques hotter since the retroboot and I am not complaining...I really like his look here!

Part of me feels a bit cynical about racebent Triplicate Girl...as a general practice I am 100% onboard with diversifying predominantly white casts, but it just feels like a bit of a "throw it at the wall and see what sticks" approach if they're just gonna pick a random character/s to do it with in every different incarnation of the team, especially when a bunch of POC or POC-coded characters already exist that aren't being used. This is what's gonna happen when no creative staff ever look beyond the 80s for inspiration though I guess!

I'm sure we will get a reasonable explanation about the visual brightness of Dawny's powers.

Saw the movie and liked it. No matter which version of the Legion you like, even Bendis, there is something here for you. I wish they would go this way with the Legion in the comics.

Somewhat off-topic, but I didn't want to start a new thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY8XcmrIujE&ab_channel=DC


Oh good Lord

Latest...

yay for the Brainiac 5 force field in action!

I've enjoyed every clip I've seen released so far. I have to say I'm looking forward to this, but I'll be traveling on release day, so I'll have to embargo myself for a couple days.

Latest clip for the three of us that still haven't seen this yet.

Someone shared this group shot on Facebook. Pleased to see Legionnaires from so many incarnations of the team!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...nhKWp1aieXKitS3Gl&id=100063673682249

Someone made a list of Legionnaires who appear through the movie:


Andromeda; Arms-Fall-Off Boy; Atmos
Blok; Bouncing Boy; Brainiac 5
Catspaw; Chameleon Boy; Chemical King; Color Kid; Comet Queen; Cosmic Boy
Dawnstar; Dream Girl
Element Lad
Ferro Lad
Gates; Gold Lantern
Invisible Kid
Karate Kid; Kid Quantum; Kinetix
Lightning Lad
Mon-El; Monstress
Phantom Girl; Polar Boy; Power Boy; (Proty)
Quislet
Saturn Girl; Sensor Girl; Shadow Lass; Shrinking Violet; Star Boy; Supergirl
Tellus; Timber Wolf; Triplicate Girl; Tyroc
Wildfire

Wow, they really went all out including characters from the later years (Quislet, Tellus, Polar Boy, Comet Queen), Reboot (Kinetix, Monstress, Gates, Kid Quantum, etc.) and even oddballs like Arms-Fall-Off Boy or Power Boy or Color Kid, or rarely seen Legionnaires like Chemical Kid, Ferro Lad or Tyroc! (And even Gold Lantern, from the latest run.) Neat to see everyone there! (Except Atmos. BOO!)

Think I'm gonna have to unplug this coming week from the internet - I'm traveling for work so I won't see the movie until Wednesday evening at the earliest!

pretty much only Earth-Man would have been worse

Few more he missed Stone Boy and White Witch for sure and pretty sure Magno, Colossal Boy and Matter-Eater Lad but cant identify those three for sure to small.

Last PR push...

There is one plot point most Legion fans will loathe--but that could be explained away by the fact that the questionable character already has an established weak-willed doppleganger...

ooph that is quite a clue. I think I know which character that is now...

I watched it. A lot of mixed feelings about it. I think if we were getting a lot of really strong ongoing Legion material, I'd probably be really critical of some of the decisions in it, but as it is... well, I liked it a lot more than I did Bendis?

The plot was very predictable, and the mix of characters used for Academy students gave it a bit of "written by ChatGPT" kind of feel to it, but there were some pretty neat references to established Legion lore along the way. I especially liked Dawnstar/Kara as roommates, which was a subtle nod to Dawny being roommates with Laurel Kent in the old days. I also really liked the depiction of Phantom Girl's powers, though I wasn't big on her being described as "shy".

The tone overall wasn't at all what I would have gone for. I found the use of a twenty-first century curse word by one of the characters annoyingly jarring. I guess it's aimed at teens? It definitely didn't seem suitable for kids but the storytelling wasn't really sophisticated enough to be aimed at adult viewers.

I'm glad I watched it, and glad it exists, and I hope maybe it can recruit some new Legion fans, but I'm not exactly going to be clamoring for a sequel featuring this version of the team.

Guess I was wrong, one last one...

"Matter Eating Lad" not Ferro Lad, don't be confused.

I don't know if it is or not (I won't get to see this until next week) but I'm going to pretend that the blue and black floating guy underneath Atmos in the picture is Flederweb.

On the whole, I am entirely in favor of re-imagining and re-imaging old heroes and old stories in new ways.
But why did they have to swap out the iconic Floyd Belkin look for a Jimmy Olsen look-alike?



*sob*

Indeed, your referenced plot point was among my main gripes, but thanks for pointing this out, I forgot about the "weak-willed doppleganger", good way to rationalize it.
It doesn't upset me quite as much because I very much doubt his version of Legion will be continued (though watch this be the time if finally is...), but then that is not a good sign..

So overall, while I enjoyed watching this, I was disappointed versus what I hoped for . The main reasons being:

--- 1) both the above-referenced plot-point, plus other characterization inconsistencies (Dawnstar has been portrayed in many iterations in a reasonably consistent manner as a regal and dignified persona, here she is the opposite) made this all feel "too different" from any canonical representation of LSH.

--- 2) similarly, the near flip-flop of Legion seniority - Phantom Girl, Chuck, and Triplicate girl as academy recruits, as opposed to being among the most senor members in the comic, whereas we see Power Boy as a full legionnaire in a latter group shot - made this fell like a weird "twilight zone" version of teh Legin (I like Eryk Davis Ester's "ChatGPT" analogy above.)

Exacerbating this is that despite several group shots, I couldn't find key Legionnaires (Star Boy, Sun Boy... someone said they saw Element Lad, I only think I MIGHT have seen him...), while others in the shot were never even members.

---- 3) Arm Fall-off Boy - I love him as pure comic relief, awkward to make him part of the action and a legitimate contributor - takes away any real drama.

---- 4) The title is "Legion of Super-heroes", but the only characters who were at all developed were Supergirl and Braniac 5, the rest were largely bystanders. 20th century Justice Leaguers and Kara's own mother got more attention than any Legionnaire.

Usually, with little to no Legion out there anymore, I root for any incarnation to succeed, but this is one of the few that I hope will not continue (and i guess I am "glad" that I doubt it will).
It was still enjoyable to see LSHers in action, and I suppose if it DID continue with more focus on the main team, I might change my mind (esp. if they "fix" issue #1 via the doppleganger), but as it is now, this would rank near last among many recent versions of LSH that have popped up randomly (including the appearances in the last season of "Young Justice")

But to be fair, if otherwise ignored characters are your favorites, I could see being excited by this version "mixing it up" versus the standard "canonical" LSHers. I myself did enjoy Chemical King's primary role, for example (although it took me some time to identify him, at first I thought he was ME lad. (Is it a tooth? No, it's a beaker. ),

So as is almost always the case, "better than i would have feared, not as good as i would have hoped", but this one was a bit heavier on the "not as good as i would have hoped" than other recent efforts. for example, I watched this with my son and right afterward, we watched "Justice Leagus vs. Fatal Five" on HBOMax... SO much better! The point being this latest effort, while definitely better than nothing, ranks near the bottom for me amongst other recent LSH incarnations.

... or how about this much briefer review, Robert Christgau style: - "Legion of Super-Heroes - Relegated to supporting cast status in their own title. Nuff said.".

this might make you happy: Star Boy and Element Lad are among the Legionnaires in this shot at least!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...nhKWp1aieXKitS3Gl&id=100063673682249

The use of the final three Adventure Era rectruits (Shadow Lass, Timber Wolf, Chemical KIng) as the "on-duty" Legionnaires I thought was kind of cool choice, but then they didn't really get to do much of anything.

yeah that was a cool connection, the "last 3" from the Era. at least. and hey, Chemical King!

I REALLY enjoyed this movie. It wasn't perfect, but seeing characters I thought I'd never see ever again - even in cameo - told me that the people that made this REALLY care about the Legion. Knowing in advance it was going to be an original take in advance helped me take my continuity nerd hat off and really enjoy the characterizations.

Without a doubt its the best original Legion content we've seen in years.

And yes, I was fine with the plot twist, as it does provided a path for redemption in a future movie, of which I hope there are several. God knows with 40+ Legionnaires there's plenty of opportunity!

PS - Suck it McAvennie! (and Johns, for that matter)

I really love the mix-and-matching of Legionnaires from different eras and incarnations!

I will say that James Wamester (the director) did say on the disc extras that the main plot twist was sure to ruffle a few fan feathers.

But I really enjoyed it and will probably watch it again today.

I have watched a few reviews of the film on YouTube. The consensus? "Not enough Justice League".

Wow.

(Admittedly, these are not professional critics, just fan-boy (or fan-girl) influencers)

The Legion of Super-Heroes: the Rodney Dangerfield of DC Comics.

Yikes. Talk about missing the point entirely...

Also "influencers" -

I want to find the person that made that a thing and throw them out of an airlock...

That term (influencers) just makes me cringe