This is a thread to help me keep track of what's been added and in the order in which they were added.
Hacks that were for 6.5 that I
had installed:
Hacks for 6.7.2 installed:
Hacks I'm considering -
- PM Folders 2.0 - Organizes PM's into Folders/Custom Folders.
- UBB.Announcements - Allows you to add announcements, which are similar to sticky threads, but appear in all forums.
- Polls... The Way They Were Meant To Be - Makes polls appear in your topic, not in a popup.
- Chat Mod - Lets you chat with jIRC. It has full CP support, it's 100% wordletized, it automatically gets the nick of the user/GuestXXXXX (5 random digits) if it's a guest, replaces smilies with real smilies, and shows how many people are currently chatting, but would like a free version.
The HTML hack was removed because it caused some issues. No traces of it exist in the cgi files anymore.
So, these other hack 'wants'. Are they ones you've worked with or just want to try? I've looked over the News Fader before but didn't know if it was appropriate for our site.
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
The HTML hack was removed because it caused some issues. No traces of it exist in the cgi files anymore.
So, these other hack 'wants'. Are they ones you've worked with or just want to try? I've looked over the News Fader before but didn't know if it was appropriate for our site.
How come Founders can still use HTML?
And I haven't worked on any of these yet. I'm not sure what the difference is in the News Faders, so I linked them all to compare later on.
And I used Rob's reverse order hack for LegionPics, but decided I didn't like it and changed it back. But it still seems to affect that forum. Weird.
I think the HTML works because it is a feature of the regular UBB software. But it is only good for Founders. Not sure why the setting is like that but it is in the CP.
Custom Username Font & Glow sounds cool!
(Though somewhat frivolous...)
Originally posted by STU:
Custom Username Font & Glow sounds cool!
(Though somewhat frivolous...)
Tried it. It's not a possiblility for right now. It'll take too much work to get it compatible with our board. It requires things that we are using for other items.
Were you testing the "username font & glow" with Icefire? It seemed so about four hours ago.
Sort of.
There was some residual effects of my trying to add the hack. I noticed several names "glowing" before I finally cleared the cache.
But no, I didn't touch any individual's profile. It just seemed to affect some people in some threads.
In order to ease the pain of losing my stats hack, I've added the following hacks:
Font Type Underline Different Size
Color Centered
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
In order to ease the pain of losing my stats hack, I've added the folowing hacks: ...
Centered
What, no righty Nighty?
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
[b]In order to ease the pain of losing my stats hack, I've added the folowing hacks: ...
Centered
What, no righty Nighty?[/b]When we upgrade to 6.7 sure.
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
In order to ease the pain of losing my stats hack, I've added the following hacks:
Font Type
Underline
Different Size
Color
Centered
Testing...
Cool!!! BIG HUG to Nighty!
Thanks!
But that hurts my eyes.
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
Thanks!
But that hurts my eyes. We always hurt the ones we
...
By the way, any chance we could have a hack that makes Shout Box shouts count as posts? Oh, all right... that was just wishful thinking...
Stoopid Catt hacked a hairball on Stu's bed...
His Tribbles have adopted it, though.
Y'Know
Hey, no posting while I'm trying to achieve a specific colour effect. That text's invisible now :rolleyes:
Right Aligned
Red Text Big Text
Underlined Text (makes all images 200x***)
Centered Text
[font:Comic Sans Ms]Comic Sans Ms Font Face[/font]
^
above
[right]Right Aligned[/right]
[color=red]Red Text[/COLOR]
[size=7]Big Text[/size]
[u]Underlined Text[/u]
[THUMB]http://www.legionworld.net/ubb/smile.gif[/THUMB] (makes all images 200x***)
[center]Centered Text[/center]
[font=Comic Sans Ms]Comic Sans Ms Font Face[/font]
Whoa!
Re: The flag thing
Any chance of getting a Saltire (Scottish flag). I really don't want to end up with a Union flag.
Sure. I'll add it in a few...
[EDIT: Did it.
]
No more "Hide from Recent Visitors," eh?
Originally posted by STU:
No more "Hide from Recent Visitors," eh?
Nope.
Be seen, be proud.
Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
How about state flags?
I'll need to make them. I'll try to get to them this week.
That's okay. Whenever you get to 'em is fine.
Oh, but I guess I could mention that Virginia is the one I really want...
Hey - LL. Since when are you in the UK?
How about a Legion flag -- maybe just the L* logo on a blue background?
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
Hey - LL. Since when are you in the UK? It's an election year. I'd rather people not know I was from the U.S. right now.
Originally posted by STU:
How about a Legion flag -- maybe just the L* logo on a blue background?
That kind of defeats the point. Besides the Legion Flag is used as the default message icon.
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
That kind of defeats the point.
Well, with the amount of time I spend here currently, I might as well be a citizen of Legion World...
Aw, but a Legion Flag shows your loyalty.
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
[b]Hey - LL. Since when are you in the UK?
It's an election year. I'd rather people not know I was from the U.S. right now. [/b]LOL (although the Utah kinda defeats the point
)
Hey - where ARE the flags anyway? They're not showing up here & now.
I was just going to ask that same question. I just logged into the FTP and the folder is gone. Is Gary still hanging around? I just finished up the U.S. State flags too.
Hmm. Not only is the flag directory gone but the ability to choose a flag in the profile has been removed too. I wonder if Gary is working on the hack. Strange that it would just disappear.
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
[b]Hey - LL. Since when are you in the UK?
It's an election year. I'd rather people not know I was from the U.S. right now. [/b]Word of Warning about the Union Jack from a real Brit. Wave my nations flag in my nation, and everyone will think that you belong to the BNP (British Nation Party) and will take you to be a drunken rasist skinhead.
Which is the why I envy American patriots. They can wave a flag and no one will think you're a nazi. The BNP gets right up my nose.
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
Hmm. Not only is the flag directory gone but the ability to choose a flag in the profile has been removed too. I wonder if Gary is working on the hack. Strange that it would just disappear.
Well, the "shadow" of the flags (red X with alt-text, but no image) is showing up in some forums but not this one, to make it weirder...
Originally posted by Bedlam Lad:
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
[b]
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
[b]Hey - LL. Since when are you in the UK?
It's an election year. I'd rather people not know I was from the U.S. right now.
[/b]
Word of Warning about the Union Jack from a real Brit. Wave my nations flag in my nation, and everyone will think that you belong to the BNP (British National Party) and will take you to be a drunken rasist skinhead.[/b]They'd have a point in many cases. Why do you think I made a point of asking for a Saltire?
Originally posted by Bedlam Lad:
Which is the why I envy American patriots. They can wave a flag and no one will think you're a nazi. The BNP gets right up my nose.
Reminds me of a story a pal told me - SAS troops and Delta Force (US equiv.) troops were on a training mission together. One night the SAS troops got drunk and burned an American flag, which P.O.ed the Yanks, so the following night they burned a Union flag to try and piss the SASers off. The SAS troops proceeded to join in by burning a Union flag too
[Apparently at least four-fifths of them were Scottish, for the record]
I have no idea whether any of this is true, but I find it amusing enough that it's worth repeating
I want a British flag! I'm an anglophile, and proud of it!
Wow, I thought this was a thread about Chuck Austen!
Or about my recurring cough!
I didn't know you had a cough still Stu. Sorry to hear about that. But when I look at your Avatar and think of you coughing I get an image of Kramer listening to Rusty the dog who had a cough that sounds like a human one. Guess I watch too much Seinfeld.
That's OK... I'm getting used to it.
BTW, have you seen the commercial with the smoking dog? It's kinda surreal...
I haven't seen the smoking dog but I have seen the collie that scares the cougar with his Matrix moves.
bolditalicsunderlinecenter
right
link legionadmin@legionworld.net <marquee behavior=alternate>marquee</marquee>
<strike>strike</strike>
Font size
TextPink <blink>blink</blink>
Damn. Blink only works in Netscape. I'll have to work on that.
Don't mind me, I'm just playing.
Is strike a word with a line through it? I want that too!
What's marquee?
Ta Dah! I made my first original modification! (Of course I used the Advanced Text as a guide.)
If I don't figure out how to get blinking to work in I.E., I'll change that button to something else.
Originally posted by Varalent:
What does Marquee do?
<marquee behavior=alternate>I don't know.
</marquee>
<marquee behavior=alternate>Let's find out then, shall we?</marquee>
Do you notice anything special about the post above? I don't
I tried "Marquee" and that's what I got.
You don't see it moving from left to right, back and forth?
Just a couple things...
1. So "hacks" are a good thing now?
2. And the dog from Seinfeld was Smuckers (sorry Scott, but my wife loves that dog/episode), Rusty was the horse that Kramer fed chili or beans.
Originally posted by minesurfer:
Just a couple things...
1. So "hacks" are a good thing now? If Gary says they're okay, I'm okay with them. I just don't know about the stability of PowWeb.
Originally posted by minesurfer:
2. And the dog from Seinfeld was Smuckers (sorry Scott, but my wife loves that dog/episode), Rusty was the horse that Kramer fed chili or beans.
Hmm. I thought they were both Rusty. Always thought the writers just didn't have the originality to come up with a different animal name.
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
BAD marquees. BAD!
Yes. Very, very
<marquee behavior=alternate>BAD MARQUEES!</marquee>
Nope
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
You don't see it moving from left to right, back and forth?
Nope. Looks just like any old word just sitting there. I'm using Netscape so perhaps it only works with IE?
Originally posted by Varalent:
Nope Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
[b]You don't see it moving from left to right, back and forth?
Nope. Looks just like any old word just sitting there. I'm using Netscape so perhaps it only works with IE?[/b]No, it should be working in Netscape too. Gary tested them with both. That's why he didn't install the Flash hack since it didn't work with IE, only Netscape. Maybe its the version you are using. I'm sure Gary tested with the latest one but don't know for sure. What version are you using and we'll ask Gary when he come back on-line.
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
Originally posted by Varalent:
[b]Nope
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
[b]You don't see it moving from left to right, back and forth?
Nope. Looks just like any old word just sitting there. I'm using Netscape so perhaps it only works with IE?[/b]
No, it should be working in Netscape too. Gary tested them with both. That's why he didn't install the Flash hack since it didn't work with IE, only Netscape. Maybe its the version you are using. I'm sure Gary tested with the latest one but don't know for sure. What version are you using and we'll ask Gary when he come back on-line.[/b]<blink>No BLINKing in IE though (thank God...)</blink>
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
[b]
Originally posted by Varalent:
[b]Nope </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
<strong>You don't see it moving from left to right, back and forth?
Nope. Looks just like any old word just sitting there. I'm using Netscape so perhaps it only works with IE?[/b]
No, it should be working in Netscape too. Gary tested them with both. That's why he didn't install the Flash hack since it didn't work with IE, only Netscape. Maybe its the version you are using. I'm sure Gary tested with the latest one but don't know for sure. What version are you using and we'll ask Gary when he come back on-line.[/b]<blink>No BLINKing in IE though (thank God...)</blink></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't thank your deity just yet SoM. Gary is still working on it and plans to install it if he can make it work in both Netscape and IE.
Netscape 6.2 at work (where I am now) 7.something at home.
<marquee behavior=alternate>
</marquee>
<marquee behavior=alternate>
</marquee>
<marquee behavior=alternate>
</marquee>
<marquee behavior=alternate>
</marquee>
Originally posted by Varalent:
Netscape 6.2 at work (where I am now) 7.something at home.
Try at home when you can and see if it works there. If not then we've got something to worry Gary about.
<marquee behavior=alternate>
</marquee>
Just had to test these new "hacks" out for myself.
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
Originally posted by Varalent:
[b]Netscape 6.2 at work (where I am now) 7.something at home.
Try at home when you can and see if it works there. If not then we've got something to worry Gary about.[/b]Ahhhaaa! Now I see what all the excitment is about. Seems to work fine with Netscape 7.0.
Cool! Now I can play!!
<marquee behavior=alternate>Bummer! This should move & blink and should be yellow too!
Gary! No fair! Mines is bwoke!!!!
</marquee>
NB: The above was supposed to be yellow; be blinking; and be slidding back and forth. Upon trying it I got nothing other than what appeared to be the trailing exclamation point almost completely hidden to the far left. When that didn't work I removed the blink command and and continued to get the same thing. Finally I removed the color command and managed to get marquee to work.
<marquee behavior=alternate><blink>
Bummer! This should move & blink and should be yellow too! Gary! No fair! Mines is bwoke!!!! </blink></marquee>
You guys are trying too hard! It's simple, it's easy! It's basic HTML made into UBB Code!
And, SoM, just for you I'm going to figure out how to get blinking to work in I.E.!
I know the HTML code to do it, I just need to figure out how to get the board to recognize it.
And Minesurfer, Hacks in this case = Modifications to the board that add more features.
Tutorial will follow...
<marquee behavior=alternate>
</marquee>
Well, I kind of figured it out
! I'm getting there!
You just needed to lose the IMG tags. They aren't needed for Smilies.
<marquee behavior=alternate>marquee</marquee>
<strike>strike</strike>
Font size
TextPink<blink>blink</blink>
Don't over think it.
Oh! And if you use more than one at a time. Close them from last to first:
[B]
[I]
[U]
[MARQUEE]
[STRIKE]
[SIZE=4]
[FONT=IMPACT]
[COLOR=RED]
[BLINK]
bold, italics, underline, marquee, strike, size, font, color, & blink
[/BLINK]
[/COLOR]
[/FONT]
[/SIZE]
[/STRIKE]
[/MARQUEE]
[/U]
[/I]
[/B]
<marquee behavior=alternate><strike> [font:IMPACT]<blink>bold, italics, underline, marquee, strike, size, font, color, & blink</blink>[/font] </strike></marquee>Ugh! That's not very pretty.
I forgot to add that the HTML used for these features is in some cases browser specific. There's some ways around it, like using a whole bunch of cross-browser code rather than the simple HTML tags, but I'm not sure yet how to get that to translate into UBB.
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
[b]<marquee behavior=alternate><strike><font size="4][font:IMPACT]<blink>bold, italics, underline, marquee, strike, size, font, color, & blink</blink>[/font][/size]</strike></marquee>
[/b]
How annoying. This comes across as a blinking red ! in Netscape.
That's what was happening to me when I combined color, blinking and marquee.
<marquee behavior=alternate>
Ugh! All this moving... around... is starting to make me feel... *urp*</marquee>
<marquee behavior=alternate>
</marquee>
<marquee behavior=alternate>
It makes ME feel like </marquee>
<marquee behavior=alternate>
DANCING!</marquee>
<marquee behavior=alternate>
</marquee>
<blink>Blink 182</blink>
Blink doesn't work for me...
Gary is still working on it. Right now it only works for Netscape.
Blink is an HTML code that Netscape uses to make text flash. Internet Explorer does not have a code like that or recognize the blink code. In order to make it work for Internet Explorer, I have to trick it using complex commands. Although I know the HTML language that can do it, I'm not sure how to get the board to recognize it as UBB Code, ala [BLINK], etc.
In the same way, I thought that "marquee" was an IE function that does not exist in Netscape/Mozilla. Yet that seems to display perfectly in my Netscape 7.02. Was that a similar bit of finagling?
Originally posted by Greybird:
In the same way, I thought that "marquee" was an IE function that does not exist in Netscape/Mozilla. Yet that seems to display perfectly in my Netscape 7.02. Was that a similar bit of finagling?
Nope. The newest Netscape recognizes "marquee." Any Netscape browser before that doesn't.
Gary is right about blink in IE. There is a way to do it but it requires the use of style sheets and javascript, which I would think makes it basically impossible for UBB use.
<style>
<!--
blink
-->
</style>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function doBlink()
{var blink = document.all.tags("BLINK")
for (var i=0; i<blink.length; i++)
blink[i].style.visibility = blink[i].style.visibility == "" ? "hidden" : ""}
function startBlink()
{if (document.all)
setInterval("doBlink()",1000)}
window.onload = startBlink;
//-->
</script>
Then with this in place you can use the < blink > command.
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
<style>
<!--
blink
-->
</style>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function doBlink()
{var blink = document.all.tags("BLINK")
for (var i=0; i<blink.length; i++)
blink[i].style.visibility = blink[i].style.visibility == "" ? "hidden" : ""}
function startBlink()
{if (document.all)
setInterval("doBlink()",1000)}
window.onload = startBlink;
//-->
</script>
My brain hurts.
Hack attempt logged or corrupt/altered member file found with extra fields. ('00000005')
» Please use your browser's back button to return.
This has popped up a few timeswhen I try to look at certain threads - am I now corrupt? Sounds like fun...
I'm sure it's nothing major so am not too fussed but thought you may like to know....
The clocks on the front page are fine (although I bet they're going to cause even more confusion with timed polls in the Vote-O-Matic)
But that damn fader causes a red mist to pass before my eyes...
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
The clocks on the front page are fine (although I bet they're going to cause even more confusion with timed polls in the Vote-O-Matic)
Funny. I thought they'd have the opposite effect.
Clock Hack:
Your Time: 02:30:04 AM. Board's Time: 06:30:04 PM
But "Board Time" in the Vote-O-Matic in this sense:
Voting stops at 28 April, 2004 07:59 AM board time.
...is "Your Time" on the Clock Hack!
[Test it out - play about with your time-offset in your profile. It changes with the offset you have]
And this
has come up before, it's not as if it's a purely theoretical thing.
[God, I'm starting to sound like Grey. Please, someone, shoot me in the head...]
[Not literally, BTW]
Now I'm confused. In all honesty since "Board Time" and my time are the same, the clock says "Current Time: Blah, Blah, Blah" for me.
But, the message that you posted is at 6:33 PM and the board time you quote is 6:30 PM. Isn't that right?
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
Now I'm confused. In all honesty since "Board Time" and my time are the same, the clock says "Current Time: Blah, Blah, Blah" for me.
But, the message that you posted is at 6:33 PM and the board time you quote is 6:30 PM. Isn't that right? I posted it @ 2:33am my time. [I'm @ a +8 offset from board time]
Look - look @ one of the polls in the Vote-O-Matic, take a note of the time it says it finishes, then put an offset in your profile, then go back to look @ the same poll. It'll have changed by the amount of the offset you inserted.
So, what you're saying is the poll is wrong. It's not displaying board time, it's displaying your offset time that the poll closes.
If that's the case, other than the fact it states it closes at "board time such and such", what's wrong with the polls? Their times would still be accurate for the user looking at them based on their offset time.
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
So, what you're saying is the poll is wrong. It's not displaying board time, it's displaying your offset time that the poll closes.
Yes.
I'm just saying this has caused confusion before, and with an actual "board time" clock elsewhere, I doubt people'd be less confused. The ideal solution would be to fix the poll term, but last time I asked you said you couldn't do that, or somesuch.
Well, now that I know more of the programing side of things, I'll see what I can do.
Done.
That's better - you couldn't have done that before?
What, and miss out on all of your haranguing?
Okay, at risk of sounding "haranguing" - can you please put the recent posters bit back where it was?
Pretty please?
No.
But thanks for asking.
Thanks
Can you find a hack so that when you enter a forum, a voice will come over the speakers saying "Welcome to (whatever the name of the forum might be)". I think that offers a friendly, warm, Wal-Marty feel to the boards. Whistling smilie faces are, of course, optional
Originally posted by Spellbinder:
Can you find a hack so that when you enter a forum, a voice will come over the speakers saying "Welcome to (whatever the name of the forum might be)". I think that offers a friendly, warm, Wal-Marty feel to the boards. Whistling smilie faces are, of course, optional I'll look into it.
What I see @ the top of the LW home page (response to shoutbox bit):
Gary - it's my custom title for sure. If I change that to simply "test," both avatar and status turn up.
I wonder - could it be something to do with the fact that the UBB never sticks and I have to re-enter my title every time I edit the profile because the font size info turns into HTML?
Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
I wonder - could it be something to do with the fact that the UBB never sticks and I have to re-enter my title every time I edit the profile because the font size info turns into HTML?
Being able to edit/quote the size function is a bug I've been trying to fix for awhile now.
The culprit for most matters seems to be the single-quote character. I changed my title from "Dawnstar's brother" to "Brother of Dawnstar" and re-logged in, and my title and avatar appear. It doesn't appear to balk on period characters.
Time displays for me only as Current Time, but I'm on Pacific time, as are Gary and the server.
The fader still doesn't fade, even after that change -- it displays the three text items in turn, full intensity. It worked in Netscape 7.02 (based on Mozilla 1.1). It now doesn't work, for me, in Netscape 7.1 (Mozilla 1.4).
I'm not that much of a fader-effect fan, as it may be slightly slowing the response time (as did the animated starfield background of some weeks ago). But I'm noting it, anyway.
I thought the fader may be one of those Netscape's-unique-HTML-quirks issues, but Gary said in tonight's Shoutbox that he could see it with v7.1.
Originally posted by Greybird:
I thought the fader may be one of those Netscape's-unique-HTML-quirks issues, but Gary said in tonight's Shoutbox that he could see it with v7.1.
Nope. You're right. Since I only logged on enough to check real quick, I didn't noticed that it wasn't fading just showing the words. This fader.js is supposed to work on all the major browsers. Obviously v7.1 has made some changes since then.
[Sanity or Madness?]
{[...] And this
has come up before, it's not as if it's a purely theoretical thing. (God, I'm starting to sound like Grey. Please, someone, shoot me in the head ...) (Not literally, BTW)}
I resemble that remark!
I'm really that much of a grouse? You're catching up and surpassing me these days, amigo ... 'tis the nature of bug reports, though. Don't shoot the messenger, even when it's via AOL Instant Messenger {g}
Test for the posting icon on the quick reply.
The front-page Current Time display seems to be 12 hours off, as it's now displaying 12:18:00 AM (PDT), where it should be 12:18 PM. Time stamps are otherwise correct for the forums, posted messages, and edited messages.
(By the way, I've posted a few notes here in SPHQ about such bugs and board hacks so that they'll have a record, and not to "shout" about them twice to get them noticed. Gary notices things quickly. What's posted in the front-page Shoutbox, though, evaporates pretty quickly with new shouts being added ... unless the shouts are archived?)
Oh, now THAT is strange ... it's 1:10 PM (PDT), and the Current Time display now says, you guessed it, 1:10 PM, as it ought to.
Whatever script creates this time display is parsing the hour after noon as being "AM"! (And, presumably, the hour after midnight as being "PM".) Yoicks!
Methinks somebody "sold" Gary a lemon of a Current Time script *sigh*
Gary just curious if this was a hack you installed or if it was part of the upgrade. But since when don't we have to use the [url] code to post an url?
Scott - that's been there from the start. Heck it was around on the oldDCMB's version of UBB, and that was v5.
That's interesting because even back on the old DCMB if I posted a relative url I had to put the code in otherwise it was just text instead of an active link.
Here's another question. In the new Shanghalla why does my edit in the Waid/Kitson thread come up as edited by Annoying Lad? Especially when I was the one to edit it.
And I have to ask is having a repository for all edits made really worth while, especially since it will cause an extra load on the server? I edit my posts frequently and hate to think of how much more space that will take up.
I'm gathering the impression that some of us are reporting more bugs than Gary or Scott would prefer to hear about -- or, perhaps, even have the time to talk about or deal with. Which last I could certainly understand. Still, I know I don't want to offend either of them.
Should I not have said anything about the main-page "Current Time" clock not working properly? (Once gain, the hour periods starting at midnight, as "00:01 AM", and noon, as "12:01 AM", are not really displaying accurately.)
I ask this because nobody, in the SP HQ thread or in the Shoutbox, has said anything at all in response about it for four days. So I have to wonder if I, and others, are reporting too much. Scott did call it "haranguing."
Nothing personal, but I don't want to be wasting either your time or mine, or cluttering this forum or the Shoutbox. If you would rather not have reports from us about such things, I, for one, will stop posting them. Please tell us on the board if we should stop doing so.
Perhaps you should report them only in this forum. It seems redundant to post something in the shoutbox, and then turn around and repost the exact same thing in here.
As for not hearing and responses, perhaps patience is the key. It was a weekend, and I know that Gary and Scott have been busy with both work and personal stuff.
No reply doesn't mean that the problem isn't on the list of things to check on. You can be sure that the founders are checking this forum for problems, and will address them as soon as possible. Some things take longer than others, however.
I guess my use of
after saying haranguing wasn't enough. I was just trying to have a bit of fun with a topic that can become too serious and teasing SoM about his persistence in posting.
I cannot speak for Gary but I do like to see the notices of bugs and problems even if it is not something I can help out with. With the hack for the clock I'd have to let Gary say if its a problem or the code. Heck I'd be happy to look over the code but I know Gary has been busy (as have I).
Actually, I've just attributed the mix up of AM and PM to the programmer probably being from Utah. I'm constantly trying to convince the people I work with, that were brought up around here, that Noon is PM not AM. Yet we continue to see e-mails and official announcements with 12:00 AM Noon being used. I don't know what it is with the education system around here but I'm sure glad I didn't have to go through it nor do I have to put any children through it.
Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
Here's another question. In the new Shanghalla why does my edit in the Waid/Kitson thread come up as edited by Annoying Lad? Especially when I was the one to edit it.
Two possibilities leap to mind:
1) Someone's trying to tell you something
2) The topic was started by Annoying Lad, hence all the edits are "posted" by AL. The thing still says "This post was edited by: Lightning Lad " at the top anyway. This would be consistent with what's happening in all the other topics.
I'd say the fact that Shangella topics turn up in the Last Posts counts as a bug tho.
Apparantly the "Last Post" column on the main page of Shanghalla really doesn't work either since it just mirrors the thread starter instead of the actual last poster.
And I had thought that someone was trying to tell me I was Annoying but figured I hadn't been post-whoring enough lately that anyone would think that.
I'm sorry about my apparently missing Scott's smilie. It seems he meant his comment to SoM to be facetious or, as he said, "teasing."
I admit to being mystified at times by what some of the smilies are supposed to signify. No tip-tags appear in my browser with a hovering cursor for any of the smilies or icons (except Tyroc, strangely), if that's helping to explain them.
That's why I've turned off the graemlins in my own posts. Using ASCII may not be as exciting, but it's almost always clear these days as to what semicolon-dash-rightparen means.
As for using the Shoutbox as well as this thread, the box seemed to be what was generally preferred last week in diagnosing problems in something closer to real time -- such as the apostrophes in personal titles futzing up the Your Info display. Posting the details here, as well, backs it up and makes a record that won't scroll off, as the Shoutbox does.
I know most have busy weekends, it's just that nobody seemed to notice the bug reports. I'm usually more patient than this, true enough, and I apologize if the premature hot weather has gotten to me, as I fear it has.
[Spellbinder]
{[...] No reply doesn't mean that the problem isn't on the list of things to check on. You can be sure that the founders are checking this forum for problems, and will address them as soon as possible. Some things take longer than others, however. }
I think all of these items were fairly obvious already. We really don't need such condescending comments. Despite how I was often described by some parties back on the LMBP Group, I'm not completely clueless about such matters of human relations.
(Yes, I know that's sounding catty and is, probably, heat-spurred. I was, however, bringing up specific points, including a reaction to an earlier appraisal of such reports -- however much I was misinterpreting Scott.)
Grey, if I decide to be condescending, I'll be certain to make it blatantly obvious. I was simply trying to offer feedback. Obviously I'm not on your list of founders worth listening to. I'll try not to make that mistake again.
Originally posted by Greybird:
I know most have busy weekends, it's just that nobody seemed to notice the bug reports. I'm usually more patient than this, true enough, and I apologize if the premature hot weather has gotten to me, as I fear it has.
I read everything in this forum and in the shoutbox. And yes, it's been a busy weekend. I've looked over the clock and haven't been able to figure it out on my own, so I've sought out help.
Even if I don't respond, assume I know about it and will deal with it when I can.
Some of the other items, like the edits showing in last post for a day was on purpose to "see" how it worked. It's hard to get a "feel" for things when you don't have access to a test board.
And just to make things more clearer -
Yes, please let me know if something isn't working properly or looks odd. I would like to know these things to see if I can fix them.
However, with that said. Remember this is a hobby and not my paying gig. Patience is the key. Knowing about a problem and knowing how to fix it are two different things. It's taking me this long to feel comfortable enough to add the features that I've added to date. Bear with me please.
All of Gary's and Scott's efforts to remedy software and server problems, and their attention to the murky details, remain truly appreciated. I tender my regrets once again for this largely heat-induced impatience.
As for 'Cru, I wrongly overlooked a clearly positive motive, whatever I disliked in style of expression, and thus also regret my itchy trigger finger of 'tude. (Ten of them, as I touch-type.)
Also, I just want to add re:Shanghalla, that should a user accidently delete or edit out something by accident or should an Advisor edit/delete a member's post in error (such as meaning to reply rather than edit), please let me know immediately and I'll try to salvage the post.
It's what I intend to use the Recycle Bin feature for in the future. It's not meant to be nosey or pick on those of us who can't spell anything right the first time.
(Like me.)
Remember Gary, people who always spell right are big dorks and nerds! Those are the kind of people who should be made fun of and picked on by those of us who are too cool for spellcheck!
I wonder if Gary can program the spellcheck to be mandatory for SOME posters...
Eye due knot belief inn spell cheque pro grams. Won Cannes two easily bye pass their Benny fish awl ell Lee mints with inn tier lee legume it ant words. Ore with alter native spell links or super fluids space Hess.
The above passed the spell check, by the way, except for "cheque," which shows that the programmers are CANADIANPHOBIC! How dare they! Fat Cramer and Arachne, go lynch 'em.
Programs are fine, but a cerebral cortex trained from reading voraciously at an early age -- as is true of the best spellers -- now, that's better.
Originally posted by Greybird:
The above passed the spell check, by the way, except for "cheque," which shows that the programmers are CANADIANPHOBIC! How dare they! Fat Cramer and Arachne, go lynch 'em.
And UK-phobic! As well as "cheque," which is the spelling in the UK too, colour, valour, metre, defence, etc.
Suggestion/request:
Any way you could set things up so that if you're not logged in when you try to post, you can just type your username/password in on the posting screen, and log in at the same time you make a post, rather than having to go via a seperate login screen?
It's not a big deal, just that I know a guy who's having trouble getting his logins to stick long enough to post.
Minor request re: avatars -- can you put a "back/last page" link on the first page, that takes you to the last page? (Did that make sense?)
Have read requests - will look into them.
Here's a question, although I don't know if is the thread to ask it in
:
How do you make a link to a specific post. A specific page is easy, just copy the page link, but can it be done for a specific post? Just curious.
Cobie, see the little Legion flag at the top of your post, next to "posted May 28, 2004..."? Right-click on that, and choose "copy shortcut."
Then, when you compose the post that you want to include the link in, use the full reply form and paste what you just copied into the new post using the URL button in the Instant UBB Code section below the post box.
Thanks Cru! I've been wondering how to that for awhile! I never realized that those flags were links before...
Gary, on the spell check hack, when did it start having banner ads? That might be a problem if someone from DC were to see it. I know it isn't ours and we don't earn anything from it but their lawyers won't care.
I didn't add it. It must be from the service that the hack uses. Do I need to remove Spell Check?
I figured it had been added by the spell check host. I'm not sure. Grey could answer better than I could on the legalize of it. It appears the banners I've seen are for non-profit companies but DC might not care.
It's not so much a matter of legality, as one of what would tempt DC's lawyers to cause grief for a site like LW.net. We rely on extensive "fair use" of DC material and trademarks, and on their being lenient about fan art and fan fiction.
In the past, any banner advertising has been a red flag in front of those charging bulls -- when they look at a site at all, that is. Whole individual-fan sites have been taken down because of it. Non-profit or for-profit, doesn't matter -- it's third-party ads that get their goat.
The spell check is well-buried, but if it won't run without pulling up banner ads, I'd suggest that you remove or replace it.
I've noticed the only time it'll pull up the banner ad is if you are actually spell-checking. If you hit it with having anything to check then no banner shows.
As much as I'd hate to get rid of Gary's hard work I'd agree with Steve. Get rid of it. With the reboot and all the effort going into it (just the names of Waid/Kitson alone) we don't want to give DC any reason to issue us a cease and desist.
Damn! I use it a lot! I won't be able to touch it until next week though.
Okay. We've upgraded to 6.7.2. I've also removed Spell Check. Please let me know if you experience any problems. Thanks.
Dang. I'll miss the spell check. I used it all the time. I understand why it had to be removed, but losing it still sucks...
Sorry Lou and Gary. I wouldn't have even brought it up but banner ads, especially on sites like ours, just are too scary to chance. I'd rather copy and paste my posts into Word or something else and do a spellcheck than risk a chance of losing the site.
Everything seems to be going great guns so far Gary. Anything new we should be watching for with 6.7.2?
- The Accelerator should now run properly under PHP 5.
- Added some checks to stop the error resulting from topic move notification emails from being sent to unregistered / deleted users.
- Recent Visitors should now more accurately count visits to private forums from users in certain configurations.
- The mass mail tool should now always respect the user's opt-in/opt-out preference.
- The private message notification icon should now appear if you have registration suspended.
- Added the PM notification icon to the Today's Active Topics page when it is NOT requested from the Accelerator.
- The suggested time offset on the registration page is now calculated correctly.
- Avatars are now saved properly during initial registration. You may need to update your Avatar Settings to correct this problem fully.
- A portion of Javascript code on the FAQ page now no longer prints at the top of the HTML output.
- The initial setup routine now properly uses the Variables Path for certain checks.
- Fixed an Accelerator check that could result in a 404 error when running in spider friendly mode and compatibility mode
No worries Scott. I totally understand why it had to go. No need to give DC's lawyers anything to gnash their teeth over. You're right, of course. It's better to spell check a post in Word or some other program (Google makes a fairly good spell checker for individual words and short phrases) than risk losing the board entirely because of the banner ads.
And Gary, so far everything seems to be running properly for me too.
Well, I never used the Spell check, since (even discounting character names), it was allergic to colour.
Like any decent spell check should be.
The main page still displays the generic Sun Boy icon at the top, instead of my own avatar. (I changed it and changed it back, then logged out and back in, no difference.) Did you mention that the next software upgrade was expected to correct that database glitch? It doesn't seem to have done so.
That was back when I thought it was our software that was the problem or that I would able to solve the problem on my end.
Recent information by PowWeb has given me a greater understanding of what the problem is.
Our website is being spread across several servers. PowWeb did this to us back in late July the week before Comic-Con. Some of the files in the Member's folder above the root have been permanately effected by this change. Those of us who attempted to log on those fateful evenings.
And right now most of our problems can be linked to this. In fact, the recent slowdowns and missing pages are due to the fact that they are either still working on spreading us or adding other sites to our virtual servers or something.
Anyway, I was hoping an upgrade would knock some sense into the avatar issue, but it did not.
Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
Some of the files in the Member's folder above the root have been permanately effected by this change. Those of us who attempted to log on those fateful evenings.
Wait... d'you mean that, even when you finally manage to escape this godforsaken host, all the glitches they've caused might still be around?
Originally posted by Reboot:
Wait... d'you mean that, even when you finally manage to escape this godforsaken host, all the glitches they've caused might still be around?
Based on the fact that they still existed on the temp board I set up on Legionpics.net, yes.
<span style="font-size: 50px;">Test</span>
Okay. From now on use a : instead of a = to change the size of your text.
This way you can edit and quote without it becoming HTML gibberish. However, now anything below "8" is pretty unreadable. The above size was originally 10, now I had to use 50 to get it that size.
<input type="checkbox" name="checkbox"> test</>
Test<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">I will be hidden until clicked</span></span>Test
Test<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here To Show Hidden Text</span><span class="spoiler_text">Hello!</span></span>Test
What is the point of the checkbox? Can you do anything with it, or is it just... there for decoration?
Originally posted by Reboot:
What is the point of the checkbox? Can you do anything with it, or is it just... there for decoration?
This is the purpose of the checkbox. But, if anyone else wants to add it to a post, for any reason they are free to do so.
Test<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">this spoiler box thing is nifty!</span><span class="spoiler_text">and the new reply tabs are cool too!</span></span>Test
Thanks, Drake. It's still quirker than I like. I'm playing around with it in my spare time to make it better.
Gary, did you turn off the editing notation? I just edited a post and, while it was edited, it doesn't say it was.
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Testing edit</span></span>
I set it so that you can edit within 2 minutes of your post (spelling errors and the like) and not have it shown as edited.
Cool. That's what most of my edits wind up being. My fingers can't keep up with my brain most of the time.
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Testing...Active Topics?</span></span>
Hmmm...looks like it works!