Thanks to Kappa Kid for calling and closing the last thread
Yet Another Kill This Thread!
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Okay, time to kill!
I - walkwithcrowds (7-day version) II - none III - none IV - Quislet, Esq V - Rockhopper Lad (the first 24-hour version) VI - Rockhopper Lad VII - cleome VIII - Rockhopper Lad IX - Rockhopper Lad X - none XI - none XII - none XIII - Invisible Brainiac XIV - Invisible Brainiac
My father had a garden and in the fall, he would cover his carrots with leaves. This would allow him to have fresh carrots all winter. He noticed that one of his dogs would go down to the garden and dig up 2-3 carrots to eat herself. She would only dig up no more than what she wanted to eat at a time.
Also when she wanted to come into the house (Dad has a huge yard and had trained her to stay in the yard) she would bark just once. She would then wait about 5 minutes and then bark once more. No scratching or constant barking.
I remember waiting in a doctor's office once as a woman read a Winnie-the-Pooh picture book to her grandchild. She kept pronouncing "Tigger" as "tiger." I'm pretty sure that would annoy Tigger.
I know you mean your real name. I think everyone who has posted on this page knows that frustration to some extent. My first name is easy, but I have had all sorts of weird variations on my surname.
It's not unusual to be loved by anyone It's not unusual to have fun with anyone.
Reading back through the previous posts, I was reminded of Dorothy Parker's review of "House on Pooh Corner". She did the reviews under the name Constant Reader. Her Review: Tonstant Weader Fwowed up
We all tend to have fond memories of what we liked as a child. WHen I was a kid, I loved the show Bewitched. Watching it as an adult, I can see the misogyny in it.
"You are my wife and I say 'No Witchcraft!' " "Yes Dear"
As we've discussed before, Quis, while Darrin may have been a misogynist, I always saw Samantha as an early feminist. She adopted the conventional woman's role, but did so because she chose to do so. She could have walked (or, more likely teleported) away at any time.
Speaking of Star Trek actors, I saw the latest Star Trek movie the other day. It wasn't bad, but, without spoiling too much, it did offer the alarming theory that rap music will be considered "classical" music in the distant future.
Speaking of Star Trek actors, I saw the latest Star Trek movie the other day. It wasn't bad, but, without spoiling too much, it did offer the alarming theory that rap music will be considered "classical" music in the distant future.
Of course it will! True counselors of fine taste will listen to rap music accompanied by a glass of fresh Four Loko.
Speaking of Star Trek actors, I saw the latest Star Trek movie the other day. It wasn't bad, but, without spoiling too much, it did offer the alarming theory that rap music will be considered "classical" music in the distant future.
Kappa, He Who, I got a good laugh out of both your replies. Thanks.
And as far as the good things about the new Star Trek film go, the white-haired, pale-skinned young warrior woman Jayla (sp?) is definitely a positive addition to the Trek mythos IMHO.
Personally, I have nothing against rap. It's not my thing, and if it's viewed as "classical music" three centuries in the future, there's nothing wrong with that. (I'm reminded that some of Shakespeare's work--especially scenes in "The Tempest"--were included for comedy relief in his day. What we regard as throwaway entertainment today will be exalted as LITERATURE tomorrow.)
In terms of more pressing matters, I have not seen the new ST film and have little desire to, since the previous one was a a rather silly "reboot" of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. George Takei was right: Star Trek these days isn't about Big Ideas; it's about action and explosions.
I didn't even watch the "Wrath of Khan Redux" one. I sensed even before the "big surprise" was spoiled on the web that it was going to stink. Thanks for confirming it, He Who.
The rap music as classical could also be considered a nod to the bit in Star Trek 4 the Voyage Home.
Kirk: You mean the profanity? That's simply the way they talk here. Nobody pays attention to you unless you swear every other word. You'll find it in all the literature of the period. Spock: For example? Kirk: Oh the collected works of Jacqueline Susann. The novels of Harold Robbins... Spock: Ah, the "Giants".
"And I keep hoping You are the same as me And I send you letters And go to your house for tea We are who are What do the others know? But poetry Is not for me So show me the way to go home"
Monday mornin', you look so fine Friday I got travelin' on my mind First you love me, then you fade away I can't go on believin' this way I got nothin' but love for you So tell me what you really wanna do First you love me, then you get on down the line But I don't mind I DON'T MIIIIIIIIND...
I'LL BE THERE IF YOU WANT ME TO NOTHIN' ELSE I COULD EVER DO GOT TO GET SOME PEACE IN MY LIFE
Monday, Monday, can't trust that day Monday, Monday, sometimes it just turns out that way Oh Monday mornin' you gave me no warnin' of what was to be Oh Monday, Monday, how could you leave and not take me
Every other day, every other day Every other day of the week is fine, yeah But whenever Monday comes, but whenever Monday comes A you can find me cryin' all of the time
Christmas is the Philippine holiday for overeating.
We especially hate it that it falls on a weekend this year. Unfortunately, our last President discontinued the order that moves holidays falling on weekends to the nearest Monday or Friday.
Presents are common for kids up to high school or even college age. Now... well, I still do get presents, but a lot of it is in cash. Which is perfectly fine
When I worked as a temp, sick days cost me money, in that I didn't get paid for them.
On and in regards to when holidays fall on the weekend. Generally, the Monday after is given as a holiday, but the actual holiday is celebrated on the actual day.
Alas, that is no longer done here. Rather annoying. Especially as most of us rarely celebrate holidays other than Christmas, New Year, the Holy Week and All Saints' Day - we just want the day off from school or work.
My work has 11 holidays. Also, if you work the Friday after Thanksgiving, you get comp time in addition to getting paid. I usually work it as there is not many people around and not much to do.
Actually, I'm fine. In addition to the 11 holidays, I have 15 vacation days, 15 sick days, and 5 personal days. Some of the vacation days can roll over to next year. All the sick days can roll over and when I retire, I'll get 20% of my unused sick days.
There is a school of thought in HR, that unused leaves should not be converted into cash. Cash conversion may encourage people to come to work even while sick.
In some countries, the government is the standard for compensation and benefits. In others, the government struggles to keep up with the private sector.
For the longest time I never understood the saying "You can't have your cake and eat it too." Mainly because when I wanted a piece of cake I would say "Ma, can I have a piece of cake?" and if she said yes, I would eat a piece of cake. I mean when you had a piece of cake, you would eat it. So to me, having and eating were interchangeable.
I miss Lash, too. And I think the best way to honor his memory here at Legion World is to embrace all the fun aspects of life, and promote them as much as we can in our posts.
Marvel's Jamie Madrox makes multiple "dupes" of himself.
If Luornu Durgo were written the way I think she should be written, she'd be able to make multiple "dupes" of herself.
Therefore, I think Lu's code name should not be Triplicate Girl or Duo Damsel or Triad or Duplicate Damsel, but rather "Dupa."
Just kidding on that last part.
OTOH, Preboot Lu did, in my humble opinion, act like a horse's dupa by leaving her loving, one-in-a-million husband Chuck in order to go off on a suicide mission against the Time Trapper.
Now, the Postboot Legion, that did have a lot of the Legion magic. I'll take even the worst of the Postboot (say, Gim's death and Emerald Vi, or the Bizarro Legion) over the best of...ahem...CERTAIN OTHER ERAS, anytime.
I already told you this via PM, but I might as well share it with the rest of Legion World: I'm about 15 comic books away from completing a full set of the Postboot Legion, from LSH #0/L* #0 through The Legion #33 (I don't count Gail Simone's Legion arc as Postboot canon, I see it as yet another continuity.) Point being, I couldn't be happier about this.
When I was in my Junior year of High School was when I first got seriously into super-heroes. This collecting mania continued, nay, expanded, after I started college. I often went hungry rather than miss out on a good back issue deal.
I know what you mean, Ibby. I'm grateful to have at least a couple comics to look forward to as individual issues -- Superwoman, definitely, and, hopefully, the Doom Patrol revival will turn out to be good (just a week and a half before the first issue is in stores!)
The cost of comics was what kept me from following more than 3 monthly titles at a time. I did try following JLA ad JSA for a while after Infinite Crisis.
I've been reading mostly Internet articles now. I prefer reading longer things in big blocks of free time, which unfortunately I do not have much of right now.
I don't care for cheese. I will eat it if they put some on my hamburger. Yes, I ordered a HAMburger, not a CHEESEburger. Some people just assume that you put cheese on a hamburger.
And sometimes, if I'm in a hurry and don't want to place a "special order," I'll just order a cheeseburger instead of a hamburger. Sometimes the cheese on the burger is awful, sometimes it's surprisingly good.
I'm not a vegetarian, either, I'm an omnivore. I eat all four kinds of meat, but I also do my best to get my quota of fruits (fresh, not cooked) and vegetables (cooked, not fresh.) Avoiding too many starches and sweets is always a struggle for me, though.
"Timecop" is actually not bad at all. But the best Van Damme movie is John Woo's "Hard Target."
(Yes, I've seen more than one Van Damme movie. He's a bad actor, and he seems like a jerk in real life, but he did work with several talented action directors during the 90s.)
I think it says a lot about what an awful movie the first live-action "Transformers" was that Megan Fox gave the closest thing in it to a decent performance.
I'm sure that it will come to no one's surprise that I considered the name Snoopy when I was getting Hyvvie. I mentioned the hymn tune Hyfrdol to a friend and she said I should name the dog I would soon be getting that instead. It got shortened to Hyvvie pretty quickly.
There was a modern-day comedy-noir movie from 1998, "Out of Sight" -- which I didn't watch because I hate Jennifer Lopez -- in which one of the criminals was nicknamed Snoopy.
That's another reason I didn't watch it, because with people constantly calling a vicious criminal "Snoopy," I probably would've laughed at all the wrong times.
A lot of modern music is not to my liking. I tend to dislike loud sounds and heavy percussion. I particularly don't like amplified sounds. My musical tastes run toward classical, traditional Broadway, traditional pop/standards, folk, early rock n'roll, and some jazz. Traditional choral music is probably my very favorite.
I remember being taught sewing for Home Economics back in High School.
As with most such classes, we also had to memorize a lot alongside our practical training. We had to memorize the parts of a sewing machine... But Home Economics was better than PE. We had one term for basketball, but we only played one game. The rest of it was spent memorizing the history of basketball, the diameter of the ball, the length of the basketball court...
A relative of mine forgot the eggs mornay they made in home eccy over the holidays. I think it forms part of our countries secret chemical warfare stockpile now.
Taking advantage of the Labor Day holiday, I made The Boyfriend French toast for breakfast this morning. I don't think I had ever made it before. It was very good. It had a nice bite, but didn't have that egg "skin" on it that French toast gets if it's not made right.
I think Oscar Wilde was awesome. He kicked down a lot of doors for nonconformists all across the spectrum of lifestyle and sexuality. He did pay a heavy, heavy price, which is tragic, but I prefer to look at what he was able to accomplish before the establishment conspired to bring him down (and I am aware that in some ways he was his own worst enemy.)
My favorite Dorothy Parker story involves her running feud with socialite Clare Booth Luce. One time they arrived at a restaurant at the same time. Mrs. Luce said "Age before Beauty." Dorothy replied "And pearls before swine." and walked into the restaurant.
The comic book artist I most want to see shirtless used to be John Cassaday, back when he still had long hair. That was a few years ago now, though. I have no idea what he looks like now, because I've refused to look at pictures of him since he cut his hair.
(Countdown to someone posting an unflattering recent picture of John Cassaday...3, 2, 1...)
Here's a link to David Cassidy. He's tried to stay youthful by drinking the spinal fluid of giraffes, making his neck extra long, but still with that old '70s smile. Or has he? Only the link will tell? No pics on the Cassidy thread...
Stephen Amell, who plays Oliver, is pretty, but I prefer his cousin Robbie who played Firestorm and, before that, Stephen on the reboot of The Tomorrow People.
I am currently watching the 1st season of Legends of Tomorrow. I have 4 episodes to go. I find it painful to watch this show. First it suffers from the problem of characters doing and saying things because that is what the script has them do or say rather than from true motivations. t starts off with Rip Hunter gathering the heroes (and Captain Cold & Heatwave) to fight Vandal Savage. Except for two of the characters, the other should be saying "Who are you, who is Vandal Savage, and why exactly should we go with you?" But nope, they all (well almost all) go with Rip Hunter.
The second problem is that the writers don't think about how the heroes would actually use their powers. Almost every episode Martin Stein and Jackson Jefferson (the other half of Firestorm) are separated, one going on the episode mission while the other stays in the ship. Gee you think they should stick together more so they can becomes Firestorm if need be?
I find the same problem of characters doing and saying things because that is what the script has them do or say rather than from true motivations in Supergirl and Flash. A little less in Arrow
This discussion has gotten me thinking about previous DC Comics television adaptations, and I've just realized, the only two I've ever genuinely liked were Super Friends and Batman: The Animated Series.
They weren't bad IMO, and they were certainly more sophisticated in terms of animation and storytelling. Most importantly, having John Stewart as Green Lantern and Hawkwoman instead of Hawkman were very progressive developments that deserve to be lauded.
But...I just didn't find those series to be much fun to watch. They just seemed so self-important and so caught up in their own seriousness. Having said that, I should add that don't like the other extreme of unhinged, comedic goofiness (Batman: Brave and the Bold) either.
I never cared for John Stewart. Hal Jordan always seemed cooler to me.
Fair enough. Hal was my first (male) comic book crush (Marvel's Dani Moonstar was my first female one) and John Stewart's portrayals in the comics have tended towards either Angry Black Man stereotypes or Bland Inoffensive Black Man stereotypes. But I think the cartoon got John just right -- strong and aggressive, but at the same time sensible and thoughtful. And Phil LaMarr's wonderful voice acting certainly helped a thousandfold.
I love the Young Justice ongoing comic book series by Peter David & Todd Nauck. It's one of the few comic book series from the (relatively) recent past that recaptures the anything-goes charm of the Silver Age without being imitative of the Silver Age.
I never watched the Young Justice cartoon, I forget why. I do remember being righteously angry when it was cancelled for reasons that had something to do with it appealing more to girls than to boys. I can't remember the exact reasons right now, but no matter what they are, I do recall that they were stupid.
I loved the snarky young Dick Grayson/Robin. You also get to see a bunch of JLAers. At first I was annoyed when the second season started 5 years later, but quickly got over it.
Ibby, I think far too many adventure cartoons are taken off the air when they've still got lots of stories left to tell.
I mean, hell, I think even Super Friends could have gone on for at least another couple of seasons! By the last season, the animation and the designs had improved exponentially, and even though the writing was going through what might be called a transitional phase into something darker and less camp than previous seasons, I still think it could have evolved into something special.
And I'm still considering writing that Super Friends fanfic where they go to Earth-2 and team up with Fury, Jade, Nuklon, Obsidian, and Silver Scarab.
I am currently reading Ravensbruck by Sarah Helm. It is about the Nazi concentration camp for women. It is well written but some parts are real heavy and dark.
This is non-fiction so not really escapism material. But there was a part I just read that gives hope.
There was a group of about 70 women that the Nazis experimented on. They got the nickname of "rabbits". After the experiments, they were always in fear of being killed (having the evidence of the experiments disposed of) This fear almost became reality towards the end of the war. But when they got wind of it, they decided to "hide" among the other prisoners. Other prisoners took their place in the roll call. Most of the rabbits were Polish, but even the Russian prisoners helped hide them, even giving some of the rabbits their ration of soup. They were hid for 2 weeks and no one in the camp gave them away.
Schadenfraude, perhaps? I read an article by a Nigerian, who confessed to feeling a little bit of satisfaction that Brexit might cause UK citizens to need visas to travel within the Schengen area.
Oh, it's absolutely Schadenfraude with me, Ibby! I'm green with envy at all the talentless jerks who are swimming in money while I'm struggling to start a writing career in my early 40s. Unlike them, I'm too smart to let success be my undoing, when it comes (yes, I said only "when," not "if and when." I just know that gravy train is headed my way!!)
This is non-fiction so not really escapism material. But there was a part I just read that gives hope...
... Other prisoners took their place in the roll call. Most of the rabbits were Polish, but even the Russian prisoners helped hide them, even giving some of the rabbits their ration of soup. They were hid for 2 weeks and no one in the camp gave them away.
One of my early/earliest memories was seeing a snippet of a bleak-enough-to-be-reportage TV drama, involving a random piece of WWII German humiliation/brutality. Along with the actual incident, the cheering of a throng of civilians really had an impact. It's something that's stayed with me, and having seen it so early on, undoubtedly helped shaped some of my thoughts on certain topics.
Originally Posted by Fanfic Lady
...I just know that gravy train is headed my way!!)
Hey, I just live here, ma'am You probably know more about it than I do.
I remember the Farm as being produced by Suggs from Madness, and he was an influence on the Spartacus album that got them lots of attention (including the above).
Broudie produced quite a few I think. Popping up in lots of places. The Zutons come to mind, but there must be loads. As I know little about such things I got a surprise when I was watching a programme about punk, and someone said that they knew Broudie would go on to be a success, as he was the only one practicing all the time.
Oh, I know he was in a group with Bill Drummond (KLF) and Holly Johnson (Frankie goes to Hollywood). But I've no idea who they were or of having heard them.
I just looked up the Drummond. Broudie, Johnson band. It was called Big in Japan...
...bet you have Alpahville going through your head.:)
Anyhoo, While I was nosing around I found that Drummond had written ""Julian Cope Is Dead" - "where he outlined his fantasy of shooting the Teardrop Explodes frontman in the head to ensure the band's early demise and subsequent legendary status. The song has commonly been seen as a reply to the Cope song "Bill Drummond Said."
Just the sort of trivia Fickles is immersed in, but I wander past as if it's an invisible world.
I've heard a couple in passing just in the last couple of weeks.
Between Every Breath You Take, Don't Stand So Close To Me and Roxxane, they are the band most likely to end up as Creepy Stalkers. I reckon they really split up due to arguments over which bushes to lurk in.
"Lady Luck" was a backup feature in the original Golden Age run of Will Eisner's "The Spirit." She had what I thought was a very distinctive and very cool costume.
"Lu, darling, you don't need luck, you need therapy so you can finally get over Superboy. That was cute when you were still a teenager, but now it's creepy."
Chuck's ugly 'tache was Keith Giffen's "gift" to him. It wasn't the first time that Giffen would pointlessly uglify a Legionnaire, and it wouldn't be the last.
I took it perhaps be that Chuck felt that as Academy director, his humorous disposition needed a maturing balance. As a result, he went with the 'tache. Lots of folks do that. I think he had a beard in the next run.
No wonder, then, that Preboot Star Boy was always the Legionnaire I would accidentally (?) overlook every time I wrote a reference list of Legionnaries.
Ah, but she's royalty. They get to execute who they like. >snap<
Oddly, enough Thom's beard is also royalty. B'Ohz B'ehrd is the dashing princely explorer of his race, forced into exile by his hated foes the Rahzohrs. It'll all be in the next Legion run, when B'Ohz crawls from Thom's grave on Shanghalla.
But poor B'Ohz finds Nura weeping over Thom's grave - no other man was ever so studly and so unquestioningly taken in by her charms. Out of pity and in memory of all the nights he spent with her, B'ohz transfers his life force into Thom's body...
I got a Bagpuss toy from a tiny shop years ago. My pride in this did not diminished when other versions were all over the place following a later resurgence.
Originally Posted by Fanfic Lady
I named one of my little toy bunnies Gertrude.
(Yes, I am "of a certain age" and I still own and play with toy animals. If you have a problem with that, well, it ain't my problem, now is it?)
I, for one, am looking forward to the Schlock filled Barbarian Bunnies vs Terror Teds fanfic, complete with accompanying photos.
Doggie was my favorite stuffed animal. He was a dog if you hadn't figured it out by now. One ear was torn off. I don't remember how or when it happened.
By putting some well worn Star Wars dollies (sorry, action figures) in the dirt (it's a tough life in the Rebellion), some grit will get into their joints, making them stronger again.
Alas, poor C3PO is MIA. Future generations will find him and raise him from his dark tomb. His droid eyes will flash once more into live, and revenge for his abandonment will begin...
Actually, by adding a few pointless lines to the end of this I can now scroll the text up the screen you get when you edit a post, like the opening to the movie. Tee hee hee.
Oh, and I can change the colour to the yellow of the opening, crawl too. More Tee Hee Hees
>slap< The Empire is now hunting thoth lad for wasting everyone's time and the rebellion have disowned him for self indulgent posting, that totally gave away the location of their moon base.
Yet, eventually, it leads to savage attacks when they get irritated. Oh hang on..."pander-ing?" I thought it was "panda-ing" That explains why it never seemed to improve anything.
How many Ultra Boys does it take to change a lightbulb?
Ultra Boy will never be able to change a light bulb, not because he doesn't know how, but because he's the poser son of nouveau-riche parents who is unhealthily obsessive about keeping up the façade of a moronic, hot-headed wrong-side-of-the-tracks rough boy.
If Preboot Ultra Boy had remained just as He Who described him^^, then I wouldn't have a problem with him. But I hate the way TMK made him so damn perfect in every way and at everything, always one step ahead of everyone else, always pulling off some kind of deception or hypocrisy for the supposed greater good.
There *are* things about the TMK Legion that I hate more than The Infallible Ultra Boy, but that's the one I find the most obnoxious.
If Preboot Ultra Boy had remained just as He Who described him^^, then I wouldn't have a problem with him. But I hate the way TMK made him so damn perfect in every way and at everything, always one step ahead of everyone else, always pulling off some kind of deception or hypocrisy for the supposed greater good.
There *are* things about the TMK Legion that I hate more than The Infallible Ultra Boy, but that's the one I find the most obnoxious.
Yeah, that did get annoying after a bit.
Threeboot Ultra Boy is the one I truly loathe, though. Reminds me of the hyper-aggressive bullies I used to know.
Preboot Ultra Boy before TMK was also meh to me.
Originally Posted by Quislet, Esq
I have a dirty version of ^^^ this joke
Go for it, Quis!
Originally Posted by Quislet, Esq
I love this version of Superboy 98
I'm sure there is a fully-drawn comic book out there somewhere
I refer the right honourable Lady to my posts outlining other takes on TMK Ultra Boy
Thoth, I think I still remember, off the top of my head, the gist of those posts. IIRC, your contention was that TMK were merely reading between the lines, and elaborating on dropped hints, all from throughout Legion continuity up to that point.
I would counter that their obsessive overreliance on twisting obscure Legion continuity minutiae to suit their twisted purposes was, in my humble opinion, pure fanwank, as well as counter-productive to good, coherent storytelling.
Bold changes they made, yes. Not all worked out for the better. Giving Jo flashes of brilliance was good, but at times he felt like a Mary Sue to me. Handsome, muscular, chased by the ladies, powerful (despite the one power at a time limitation he is still up there), and now devious and smart too!
And right in the perfectly balanced middle is Postboot Ultra Boy, the lovable lug who really *is* what he claims to be, and whose heart is always in the right place, even if he can't always articulate it in the best way (say it with a cactus? Ouch!)
Not that I'm drawing this out buuuuut... I think my point was that there were a couple of older Legion issues that showed Jo having all of these characteristics.
Details may be in those posts, but what I do remember was my genuine surprise that TMK *hadn't* had to read between the lines really. It was pretty much there to be lifted rather than created or interpreted.
Jo's general prominence in the run probably didn't help having all that added on top. Some characters ended up like Dawnstar, while Jo gets the Glorith/Mordru secret bit, the lost in time bit, the smuggling part *and* the lost partner subplot too.
In the general Giffen Legion redux, Jo also became the powered down version of Mon El & Superboy. It's just as well that Laurel was also on the team, or it could have been even more lop sided in giving him panel time. While I like a classic Mon El/ Superboy story, I did also like having a more vulnerable hero.
Poor Dawnstar, though. She deserved a lot better than what they did to her. And I know for a fact that even some fans of that run objected to that subplot, for both its vicious treatment of her and for the general execution of the relevant scenes.
It's nice when we agree. I seem to remember us doing it before... about two years ago... it was a Thursday
From that intro page showing what loads of characters were up to (more annoying than teasing), to joining them but not being recognised (except for the villain who spots it right away having possibly never met her before), to the needlessly violent removal of Bounty... to sitting around doing sod all for the rest of the run.
In the end, she could have been left out of the book entirely. And good intentions or half formed ideas don't really work when there's not the control of execution in place.
Now Black Knight, *there* was a Mary Sue... tee hee hee...
Now Black Knight, *there* was a Mary Sue... tee hee hee...
Brace yourself, Thoth...*I don't entirely disagree with you* about the Black Knight.
SURPRISE!!
To me, the best things that came out of yours and He Who's objective, no-expectations analysis of my favorite Avengers era was that many of the critiques that both of you made were, upon reflection, perfectly valid as far as I'm concerned.
And Dane *was* one of them. Probably no scene underline that better than the one in the final act of the Gatherers Saga, where Dane single-handedly out-fights almost the entire 2nd wave of Gatherers -- including a Thing/Hulk hybrid and a beefy (lizard-meaty?) reptile-man. Either one of them should have easily wiped the floor with him, especially the Crypto-Grimm-Banner. I'd also like to think that Sliver, the Elektra-analog-of-sorts, could also have single-handedly defeated him; it would have redressed the balance of Dane hitting Natasha when his Gann-Josin mind-link had driven him almost completely over the edge (I know, temporary insanity and/or Sersi's mind-domination of him could be offered as semi-credible outs, *but* in final accounting, it *was* still just as wrong as when Hank Pym did it to Janet Van Dyne.) I'd actually managed to block that last scene out of my mind in the years leading up to that re-read, for obvious reasons.
To summarize, I still love a lot of things about that era, and it's still my favorite Avengers era, but thanks to you and He Who, I have a better, more well-rounded perspective on its pros and cons.
I remember your thoughts from those Avengers posts. I wouldn't have posted the above, even in jest, had I not known you were receptive to it.
They're not just quips you know. I slave away at 'em all, slave I tells ya! Then, just as they become the dearest thing to me, I let them go into the forums with a tear in my eye... >sniff< reaches for hanky >HOOOOOONK!<
I'm impressed at how vividly you remember that run. I really have to get back into the Legion rereads. I had got right up to Earthwar, and I'm not sure I've ever read it in order before.
Thoth, thanks for the kind words, and I look forward to seeing you rejoin the Legion re-read (as it happens, I'll be dropping by there again next week and the week after that to review the 2-parter introducing the League of Super-Assassins.)
Rocky, I'm imagine you probably won't be offended, but I do have to admit that I pronounce it ga-WAYNE.
I always have trouble with pronouncing words. Even English words, sometimes. 8t is one thing to know how to use them in written English, and another to know how to pronounce them...
They kind of started getting out of hand in the 90's.
Ya think?
I never even read Age of Apocalypse in its entirety until years later, when it was all collected in multiple trades. And it wasn't even that good.
Re: X-Cutioner's Song vs X-Tinction Agenda, the former was mostly Fabian Nicieza's baby, and I really love a lot of what he wrote during the first half of the 90s (and although Peter David hated, and I mean *hated* working on it, he managed to contribute some choice bon mots and a couple good action sequences. The latter felt more like a story-by-committee-with-the-editor-and-the-artists-calling-all-the-shots, and the nominal writers, Claremont the burnout and Weezie the bound-for-friendlier-climes-little-pixie (as in DC, of course), reduced to not doing much more than rubber-stamping generic dialogue. Just my opinion.
EDIT: Them issues drawn by that Jim Lee feller were mighty pretty ta lookit, tho.
Re: X-Cutioner's Song vs X-Tinction Agenda, the former was mostly Fabian Nicieza's baby, and I really love a lot of what he wrote during the first half of the 90s (and although Peter David hated, and I mean *hated* working on it, he managed to contribute some choice bon mots and a couple good action sequences. The latter felt more like a story-by-committee-with-the-editor-and-the-artists-calling-all-the-shots, and the nominal writers, Claremont the burnout and Weezie the bound-for-friendlier-climes-little-pixie (as in DC, of course), reduced to not doing much more than rubber-stamping generic dialogue. Just my opinion.
EDIT: Them issues drawn by that Jim Lee feller were mighty pretty ta lookit, tho.
Bah! One day, you heathens will understood the misunderstood genius of Claremont's Outback X-Men run!
I actually went to Outback a few weeks ago for a roommate's birthday, but was feeling too cheap to spend on a steak. I ended up filling up on a cheap(er) appetizer instead.
There's all sorts of mustards, but my favourite by a mile is a pretty strong English variety. It's cheap but I proudly put it in my basket over the more expensive, posher options.
>gosh< that's two memorials we'll have to have! They may be smaller and resemble garden ornaments, but don't let their size convey the huge sacrifice that you both have made.
Could I just make sure that none of us will be disqualified for false starting the moment, and that we will all get to enjoy the moment when it starts?
24 hours is still a bit long for a moment though. What about everyone in the world and Legion World having separate moments across a 24 hour period? It's the least civilisation could do for you guys, I think.
And very gracious it was too. I and, I'm sure, the many Legion Worlders and those beyond will be touched as they tune in to find your vigil well underway.
Rats! Quis is onto me for not being the real thoth! I thought I'd got away with it. Ibby knew, but he's on his vigil of not posting. So, all I have to do is get rid of quis... now to find a grand piano and an elaborate pulley system... he'll never spot that!
Currently (from Sept. 23 to Oct 10) there are 60 pianos scattered around Boston. Anyone can sit down and bang out a song. They are called street pianos. I've seen one in front of the main public library and one at Downtown Crossing.
Dorothy: Did you say something? Tin Woodsman: [indiscernible sounds from the Tin Man, who is rusted] Dorothy: He said oil can! Scarecrow: Oil can what? Dorothy: Oil can.
Dorothy: Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas any more. Toto: Well Duh! It's Legion World, and I'm here to sign up for the Legion of Super Pets. I'll tell Mysa to pop round and sort out any witchy problems you've got. Won't take long. See Ya!
After I typed the above I thought I'd read it somewhere too. But then I wondered if that's just what people think about anything once they've been told. I'm sticking with ignorance! It works for politics!
Aarrrrgh! Ye have the posting fingers of a woman Quislet Esq! I wager those delicate typing fingers have never had to rescue the purity of Golden Age Goodness from the depths of a Fanboy Convention Aaaaaaaargh!
I was just up in my parents loft. Covering one part are the pages from football sticker albums we got when I was a kid. collector values never entered our minds. If you don't enjoy them for what they are, what's the point?
I was just up in my parents loft. Covering one part are the pages from football sticker albums we got when I was a kid. collector values never entered our minds. If you don't enjoy them for what they are, what's the point?
Agreed 100%, Thoth. If only a viewpoint similar to ours had prevailed during the early 90s. Instead, we got speculator-mania, with all those blasted tourists infesting the collector community.
Pa: Well, that's all of the birthday and christmas shopping done. Ma: We did so well! Look at all the gifts! Pa: Just think, in 30 years, he'll be able to sell them on, still wrapped, to someone else. Ma: Perhaps... Pa: Yes, I think we should just get our kid slabbed to protect his value too. After all, in 40 years we could sell him on to a couple willing to invest in his emotional life and his imagination!
Keep those precious things glowing with the mint freshness of Krypto-Slabs!
Our state of the art atomic processing prevents anything harmful* from getting near the things you value most.
From Kryptonite Komic Kards to our latest Kryptonite Komic Kubes, Krypto-Slabs has a preservation solution for you. Unless your name is Clark! >warm, friendly chuckle<
Krypto-Slabs, from thothInc, the guys who brought you Tell-It-Like-It-Is Wonderlassos and TeleSmell!
*including germs, relatives or anyone within 30 miles**. **Not for sale in Kansas or Metropolis.
Ah, but think of all the evil experiments the healthy, atomic Krypto-radiation saved him from over all those years. Just like Lex to get caught up on a single point, and let it take over his entire life.
A Superman/Flash/Road Runner/Speedy Gonzales team-up!
(OTOH, the Road Runner/Speedy Gonzales vs Wile E. Coyote/Sylvester the Cat team-up cartoon short (IIRC, it was titled the "Wild Chase" set a bad precedent for such concepts. In a word, it sucked. And, really, with 20/20 hindsight, I think the Warner Bros cartoons peaked in quality near the end of the 1940s. There were still a few good ones in the early 50s, but as that decade went on, they got worse and worse, really no better than the much-maligned 60s cartoons.)
Wasn't there a reanimated Green Lantern who did* go around saying >glx< and the like as he had partly decomposed. I think the ring was the only thing keeping him functioning.
I never knew you knew such obscure Green Lantern lore, Quis. I consider myself a GL fan, but I certainly wouldn't have been able to answer Thoth's question.
I always thought it should have led to a series of creepy stories about what was really in charge of the GLC. If the rings could keep their hosts functioning after death, what else had they been making them do?
I didn't read enough GLC to know if that was ever dealt with. What I saw of Blackest Night seemed to be something else.
Blackest Night was such a pile of poo it made Millennium look good by comparison.
Wow! 'cause Millennium was poo on a stick!*
*Shoutbox has just nipped off for a couple of quick pints, to get the old flow going, if you know what I mean. So, I'm standing in. Mind you, I don't what it is I'm standing in exactly. It looks like a load of...s...weet lord above!
I have a sad story to tell you, It may hurt your feelings a bit. Last night when I walked into my bathroom, I stepped in a big pile of ... Shhhhhaving cream, be nice and clean, shave every day and you'll always look keen.
A baby fell out of the window, You'ld think that her head would be split, But good luck was with her that morning, she fell in a barrel of... Shhhhhaving cream, be nice and clean shave every day and you'll always look keen.
An old lady died in the bath tub. She died from a terrible fit. In order to fulfill her wishes, She was buried in six feet of... Shhhhhaving cream, be nice and clean Shave every day and you'll always look keen.
I went for a hike with Troop 196, At lunch time I looked in my kit, I thought I would find me a sandwich, But the darned thing was loaded with... Shhhhhaving cream, be nice and clean br> Shave every day and you'll always look keen.
While watching a swell game of baseball, One player got him a nice hit. While on his way down to first base, He stepped in a big pile of... Shhhhhaving cream, be nice and clean Shave every day and you'll always look keen.
Our baby got into some peaches, We thought he had swallowed a pit. Next morning we looked in his diaper, But the darned thing was loaded with... Shhhhhaving cream, be nice and clean shave every day and you'll always look keen.
And now folks my story is ended, I think it is time I should quit, If any of you feel offended, Stick your head in a bucket of... Shhhhhaving cream, be nice and clean Shave every day and you'll always look keen.
Right Quis. Fickles has nipped out. We can get on with our discussion on the concept of the soul, with consideration to the ability of an Oan ring to retain or duplicate it, and on the concept of the source of will. Have some poo jokes hand though, in case she pops back, mind.
I tried an "experimental" oatmeal-fruit cookie last week.
Definitely a success from a gastric health standpoint, if you get my drift. From a food standpoint? Not so much. I think I'll just go back to consuming oatmeal in its original (Scottish-style or steel-cut) form, thanks.
I used to make little almond and jam biscuit things. It's a traditional family recipe, stretching all the way back to a recipe book my mum got it from
I've not baked in a while. In fact, the bottom bit of my oven stopped working, and as I didn't really use it, it took me ages to get round to getting it fixed.
If the Legion cartoon had been made in the late 80s/early 90s instead of the mid-2000s, and if it had used the Baxter Era as its template, I'd have loved to have heard the great voice actor Frank Welker doing double duty as Bouncing Boy and Quislet, the same way that Welker did double duty on The Real Ghostbusters as both Ray Stantz and Slimer.
Indeed, Ibby. Just to hear Chuck sounding like Ray Stantz (or Fred from Scooby-Doo, whom Welker also played) or to hear Welker say, "Hoo boy, what fun! Go go go!", in his love-it-or-hate-it androgynous childlike voice, would have been pure pleasure for me.
Well, out the four most-well-known characters that Welker did The Androgynous Voice for -- Slimer from Real Ghostbusters, Scooter from Gobots, Wheelie from Transformers, and Uni from Dungeons & Dragons -- the first three are all defined as male, with only Uni being defined as female (oh yes, she was, don't anybody argue with me -- the kids always referred to Uni with female pronouns. So there.)
As for Gates, he is definitely male in my view. In fact, yet another Ghostbusters connection -- I "hear" Gates as sounding like Bill Murray (or the late Lorenzo Music impersonating Bill Murray as Peter Venkman in Real Ghostbusters.)
That line I just quoted from the racist old b*tch hotel guest never fails to at least get me to giggle. They don't do genuinely biting satire (as opposed to bald-faced racism, sexism, and homophobia all claiming to be satire) any more.
I'm supposed to meet mr_cleome for Happy Hour with his co-workers at some bar later on today. If I'm lucky enough to find hot chocolate on the menu, I'll get it. In weather like this, I won't be too proud even if it's the stuff from a foil packet.
J'adore the way Michael Hutchence sings "There's something about you, girl...that makes me *sweat*", in this song, especially the first time, when his voice drops to a whisper halfway through (circa 1:20-1:25):
Until I finally heard someone say INXS out loud, I thought they were "inks."
Yeah, I did that too as part of a word search back in school. Fortunately, no one else had heard of them then either. It did make me search out their early stuff, so I was the first kid on my block to like them.
All of which is a cunning preamble to...
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Sadly, too many people couldn't recognize satire even if it bit them on the nose
I couldn't wait to go on my Greek holiday with Wonder Woman. She had been telling me all about their great comedy circuit, but she was really reluctant at first. Turns out fighting satyr wasn't what I thought...
Scandalous in its late-1960s day, the orgy-laden Italian movie "Fellini Satyricon" looks fairly tame compared to some of the movies that followed it across the decades, IMO.
I remember watching "I, Claudius" on PBS and got a very British view of Roman orgies.
"May I take your toga, Sir?" asked the butler of the Senator. "Cor yes!," replied the devious, corrupt official. "I can't wait to get right into a chat about today's cricket. Whoar!"
In one Disney comic I read as a kid in South America, the Big Bad Wolf stages a one-man show so he can trap the Three Little Pigs.
One of the Big Bad Wolf's onstage roles has him playing a slave driver...complete with a brandished whip.
CRINGE!!
Worst of all, it wasn't until after I had moved to the States at 16 that I realized just how racist and tasteless that really was, and why the memory had stuck with me.
And people wonder how racism has flourished in the 21st Century?
Jumper: Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge ... thoth: I'm not pushing. I'm using a long stick, so it's more prodding... Jumper: Thaaaaank yooou fooor explaaaaaaainiiiing >splat< thoth: Don't worry readers. He fell safely into a huge pile of Avengers comics. Jumper: Noooooo! Not the Hickman Run! *Now* I'm Miserable!
Kinda funny, then, that he quoted one of its most famous songs.
(I'll tell you what would put me out on the ledge -- having to listen even one more time to that Gods-awful, cheese-ball, glorified tourist advert for NYC that Jay-Z and Alicia Keys did a few years ago...)
Kinda funny, then, that he quoted one of its most famous songs.
Nopes, it got stuck in his head and that's what drove him to it >raspberry<
Originally Posted by Fanfic Lady
(I'll tell you what would put me out on the ledge -- having to listen even one more time to that Gods-awful, cheese-ball, glorified tourist advert for NYC that Jay-Z and Alicia Keys did a few years ago...)
Any chart music outside HWW's lists just pass me by. Just as well by the sound of it.
Yeah, most modern chart music is dross. Some of them are guilty pleasures, though. I enjoyed doing that recent toilet-humor parody in the Anywhere Machine forum of Ellie Goulding's "On My Mind" ("Out Your Behind".)
That said, I genuinely and sincerely love Ellie's US charts breakthrough hit, "Lights."
^^Me too, Ibby. In fact, the modern song that finally made me just throw up my hands and say, "I'm too old for this...stuff," was that 2015 Charlie Puth/Meghan Trainor duet, "Marvin Gaye."
Hey, kids, news flash, you're both *white*, and you're making Marvin roll over in his grave.
What the hell ever convinced John Legend to duet with Meghan Trainor?* I mean, I'm not a fan of Legend's music, but I used to think he was smarter and more together than most showbiz people (I give him a lot of credit for being the only black celebrity to call out a U.S. newspaper that published a virulently racist cartoon of Obama a few years ago. Gods know I agree with a lot of the criticism Obama gets, but even he doesn't deserve that kind of crap.)
*Don't anyone even bother answering. I already know, he obviously did it because it paid him lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Memories light the corners of my mind Misty water-colored memories of the way we were
Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind Smiles we gave to one another for the way we were.
Can it be that it was all so simple then Or has time rewritten every line If we had the chance to do it all again, tell me, would we, could we
Memories may be beautiful and yet What's too painful to remember we simply choose to forget So it's the laughter we will remember Whenever we remember the way we were.
I just finished watching all six of the Johnny Weissmuller Tarzan movies. In the special feature there was a parody trailer for Schnarzan the Conqueror with Jimmy Durante.
My eyebrows have gotten bushy and when I get a haircut, the stylist trims them for me. I am also getting hair growing out of my ears and my nose (although to a lesser extent than my ears)
A certain over-the-hill Latina bombshell who is *rumored* to be secretly ashamed of her curves, and who *may* be hard to recognize from recent pictures, because she *might* have had even more plastic-surgery re-upholstering done on herself than Madonna, has been *alleged* more than once to be a secret practitioner of dark magic, complete with animal and human sacrifices.
Yeah, even though I hate her and I make fun of her, she still scares me enough that I won't ever refer to her by name. Self-preservation, don'cha know.
I used to like that bug spray commercial starring the Grim Reaper. I loved the way the actor playing him drew out the word "Rrrrooooaaaaches" in sheer disgust.
I think the a major part of Superman's popularity has been his ability to fly. I wonder if he would have been the phenomenon he has been if he had remained with the mere ability to leap an eighth of a mile.
The first Highlander was a decent action-fantasy movie with an awesome Queen soundtrack (which, bizarrely, has never had an official album release, going on 30 years!!)
The second Highlander was crap.
Haven't seen any of the sequels beyond that.
Never got into the TV series, but it was okay for what it was, and I give them credit for using the same Queen song ("Princes of the Universe") that opened the first movie for the show's title sequence.
Trust me, Ibby, you don't want to hear that. I sing even worse than I play guitar or piano. Why do you think I chose a silent, solitary pursuit like writing?
Although I imagine they can do wonders with moobs these days. Moob enhancement surgery. Actually, some footy fans I know could do with moob reduction surgery.
Although I imagine they can do wonders with moobs these days. Moob enhancement surgery. Actually, some footy fans I know could do with moob reduction surgery.
So very, very 90s UK. In a bad way, but also in a way we can laugh about it.
Although, like most parodies of 90s Lad Culture, it walks a very fine line between satire and pandering. I'll bet Mark Millar was taking notes between lines of cocaine.
Every time I've tried alcohol, all it ever does is make my head feel like it's made of concrete, my legs like they're made of rubber, and my body compass malfunction.
Now coffee, *that's* a creativity potion right there!
According to Ed Brubaker, the French Resistance during World War II had far more grass-roots support than knee-jerk French-haters would prefer us to believe.
Stan Laurel appeared in 107 short films, feature films, and cameo roles during his time with Oliver Hardy. He was also a member of "Fred Karno's Army," where he was Charlie Chaplin's understudy.
Back in the day, I got (and all my co-workers did too) a Christmas bonus equal to 34% of my yearly salary. I used most of it to go to a Dr. Who convention in Chicago. Both Jon Pertwee & Patrick Troughton were there. I got Mr. Troughton's autograph while he was waiting to enter an event.
But there's no sense in telling me The wisdom of the fool won't set you free But that's the way that it goes And it's what nobody knows Well every day my confusion grows
The money came from that generous gentleman over there. He even gave me some, said he would be waiting for my turn on the stage. Silly man, I'm not a performer...
Dead or Alive, the synth-music group best known for that 80s oldies station fixture "You Spin Me Round", and for being fronted by Pete Burns, whose androgyny contrasted with his deep, manly baritone vocals, had a really good deep-cut track on their biggest-selling album, "Youthquake", titled "Big Daddy of the Rhythm."
Rhythm not as in dancing, but as in S-E-X, naturally.
Dead or Alive, the synth-music group best known for that 80s oldies station fixture "You Spin Me Round", and for being fronted by Pete Burns, whose androgyny contrasted with his deep, manly baritone vocals, had a really good deep-cut track on their biggest-selling album, "Youthquake", titled "Big Daddy of the Rhythm."
Rhythm not as in dancing, but as in S-E-X, naturally.
And the news broke that he passed away today. You frighten me. As Mortica Addams said, "Do it again.".
Dead or Alive, the synth-music group best known for that 80s oldies station fixture "You Spin Me Round", and for being fronted by Pete Burns, whose androgyny contrasted with his deep, manly baritone vocals, had a really good deep-cut track on their biggest-selling album, "Youthquake", titled "Big Daddy of the Rhythm."
Rhythm not as in dancing, but as in S-E-X, naturally.
And the news broke that he passed away today. You frighten me. As Mortica Addams said, "Do it again.".
I frighten you??
How so? I mean, yes, I'm a highly opinionated drama queen with a wicked wit, but I don't deliberately set out to scare people.
Ursula Le Guin is a sci-fi writer. I have not read any of her books, but I did see a TV adaption of the Lathe of Heaven. It is about a guy whose dreams can alter reality.
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