Legion World
CMK has the next Q.
Who created the immobile sentient robot Quasimodo, and who gave it mobility?
Mad Thinker for inventing
Silver Surfer for mobility
Why do I feel like Myg has it right?
Because he does! Yours, Myg!
LOL
I remember Silver Surfer making that critical mistake

New Q up soon
Per Degaton hid nuclear missiles in three locations in the world. Where were they?
Uh...

Montevideo
Tokyo
Berlin
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/21/17 08:57 PM
Paris
London
Rio de Janeiro
?
Somewhere in the Pacific Ocean
Somewhere in the American Midwest
Switzerland
CMK has it!
The JSA, JLA and All Star Squadron split up into 5 teams, but 3 of them were specifically sent to defuse the nuclear weapon sites. The other two teams went on different missions

Over to you, CMK
One of my favorite JLA/JSA team-ups.

In the JLA/Avengers series, the Grandmaster and Krona had the heroes hunting for objects of power, all of which were deliberately hidden somewhere they didn't belong...except one. Which object could be found exactly where it could have been expected to be?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/21/17 11:43 PM
Hmm good question. Can't remember the answer though.

Umm Dr Fate's helmet was on his head?
Nope. (Dr Fate's helmet wasn't one of the objects at all)
I just read that recently... Kyle Rayner's power battery was in his apartment?
That's the one, IB. Your question.
cool!

Why did Liberty Belle and Hourman choose different sides when the All-Stars split from the main JSA team?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/22/17 05:47 PM
They were having relationship problems?
nope. everyone assumes they were,in fact. but nope
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/22/17 11:28 PM
They were spying on people for some reason?
Nope, they weren't spying. But other people were a reason.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/23/17 05:45 PM
They were each training the junior members?
Nope, but you are correct that it had to do with their teammates

note - they were still living together, and had a house together
They were the link between the teams?
yes! that is exactly it
That's what I figured... New Q up soon
Which three heroes did Kate Spence subpoena for the Shadow Thief trial?
Hawkman
Hawkgirl
Doctor Light
One right
Hawkman
Firestorm
Shining Knight
One right.
Shadow Thief was on trial for killing Firestorm (sad emoji)
I thought maybe Jason Rusch would have been subpoenaed

Hawkman
Captain Marvel
Vixen

the whole death of Firestorm was stupidly written, and was an unnecessary part of Identity Ctisis. pretty much nobody else in the story even referenced it. it felt shoehorned in!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/04/17 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
the whole death of Firestorm was stupidly written, and was an unnecessary part of Identity Ctisis. pretty much nobody else in the story even referenced it. it felt shoehorned in!


Absolutely!!! It was the most obvious example of editorial interference I've ever seen in my life. For all of Meltzer's questionable story-telling decisions in that series (and, full disclosure, I do actually like it despite them) the death of Firestorm was clearly something he was told to throw in there in order to set up the new series.

And to me, it is the single biggest problem with the series (even more than the horrible rape and murder and character assassination and stuff): we're reading this (questionable) love letter to the satellite-era JLofA in which enormous focus and emotion is devoted to the loss of a loved one of one of those members (who barely even appeared during that run) and yet, when one of those ACTUAL MEMBERS dies, it is a total after-thought that practically no one ever mentions or reacts to. It is SO at odds, with the theme of the series (celebrating the satellite-era JLofA) that it just clearly shows how out-of-touch and incompetent the editor of that book was. And surprise, surprise: guess who champions Identity Crisis as his first big project at DC? Dan Didio. There should have been no surprise then, when a man who understands so little about the DCU would go on to literally destroy it.
Still only 1 right ...
Hawkman!

2 more to go


And I have serious reservations about the whole "let's kill random characters" ride that Didio clearly endorsed. Identity Crisis is difficult to reread because of the way it violates the Satellite era (which is the one I grew up on).
I agree with Blacula that the whole random Firestorm death thing was one of the worst parts. It just made things feel so disjointed.

I don't suppose we get a clue now, huh?

Hawkman
Batman
Superman
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/04/17 08:14 PM
Hawkman
Will Magnus
Mister Miracle

?
The clue is... Ibby has it!

Over to you!
Wow, that was a totally random guess...

While with the JLE, Sue Dibny was horrified by a UN proposal to move the team to a certain city. She was afraid it would be so boring they would have to watch statues turn green. What city was this?
Amsterdam?
Nope
Zurich?
Brussels?
Nope to both.

Zurich is the closest guess
Geneva?
Nope

Geneva and Zurich are both close, but not that close smile
Vienna?
yes! it was Vienna! besides watching statues turn green, Sue thought they would eat vienna sausages
Which DCU magic user was named Nommo?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/07/17 02:51 AM
Dr Mist.

(I love the Global Guardians!)
It had to be ... Dr. Mist (Blacula loves Global Guardians)
Yup, go Blacula!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/08/17 06:09 AM
I think one of my first questions in this thread lo those many years ago was asking you to give me the names of all of the DC characters who had featured in movie serials in the 1940s and 1950s.

Well I'm nothing if not consistent, so in honour of the newish DC Cinematic Universe (not that it deserves it in any way so far), please give me the names of the 14 DC/Vertigo properties who have received live-action feature films to date.
John Constantine
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Flash
Steel
Sueprgirl
Captain Marvel
Aquaman
Cyborg
Green Lantern
Superman
Supergirl
Wonder Woman
Batman
Suicide Squad
Catwoman
Steel
Constantine
V for Vendetta
Watchmen
Swamp Thing
Superman
Supergirl
Batman
Green Lantern
Jonah Hex
Suicide Squad
Constantine
V for Vendetta
Watchmen
Catwoman
Steel
Swamp Thing
Wonder Woman

That's 13. Does Robin count separately, since he was in the title of Batman and Robin? If so, then he's my 14th.
Jonah Hex! Of course! Nicely done, CMK

I'm still racking my brain... where has my geek fu gone?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/08/17 04:48 PM
Well done everyone!

You've got 13 out of the 14 properties. (I included Robin within the Batman property since he didn't have his own stand-alone film.)

The last property might be tricky for some. It's not as well known as many others on the list and I had completely forgotten they'd made a movie about it until I was reminded by Wikipedia.

RANDOM CLUE #1: A regular poster on this board (although not one who's ever posted in this thread as far as I'm aware) was a big fan of this comic (although that might not help since this poster is a big fan of a lot of comics smile ).
RANDOM CLUE #2: As far as I'm aware, the characters in this comic have never appeared outside of their one series.
RANFOM CLUE #3: I bought this comic on the strength of its cover art alone. I had never heard of the artist before this series but they have gone on to be a much bigger name now. (Although, strangely, I have gone on to like their art less, including this earlier work.)
Oh - I just remembered - the Losers, right?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/08/17 06:48 PM
'The Losers' makes a winner!

All yours CMK!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/08/17 06:56 PM
P.S. I never saw the movie but hear it got mixed reviews. Looking at it amongst the others on the list though, it seems totally strange that a pretty-much forgotten minor 00's Vertigo series would be one of the very few that DC has turned into a movie.
Who was the arch-enemy of the Squadron Supreme's Hyperion (their Superman analog), who was an analog of Lex Luthor?
Bald Guy?
Not quite, but Luthor's baldness is referenced in his backstory.
Master Menace
That's correct - in his case, he blames Hyperion for a condition that made his hair grow excessively, as Luthor had famously turned to evil because he blamed Superboy for his baldness. Also, the MM initials was a reference to the constant LL initials (including Lex Luthor) in Superman's life.

Yours, Myg!
Yeah - I enjoy that whole Squadron Supreme stuff - before it became the tough and gritty stuff

Which villain was the center of Batman and Agent Chase's first case?
Joker? (I wouldn't be surprised, I think he's overused)
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/14/17 02:35 PM
Haven't read this issue but I just saw it while flicking through Batman comics at my local shop and on the cover was...

Clayface?
Blacula has it!

A DEO scientist gets turned by a piece of Clayface and tries to connect with his "dad"

Cameron is on her first day of work and ends up in Gotham working with Batman

Over to you!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/19/17 05:09 AM
Who were the two main villains in the original, never-finished/published JLA/Avengers crossover?
Hmmm...

The Key and the Grim Reaper?
Kang and the Lord of Time.
Egg Fu and the Mandarin?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/19/17 01:30 PM
CMK is a man of two universes!

And he's got the answer for both.

Over to you CMK.
I remember when I saw the scene in issue # 3 of the JLA/Avengers book, and recognized the Avengers and JLA images as being from the earlier aborted team-up and I asked Kurt Busiek if the story referred to in that panel was indeed the intended plot of that one, and he answered in the affirmative.

If it makes you feel any better, IB, the two you mentioned were in the panel immediately above that one, which might be what made you think it was them.

During the "Breakdowns" crossover between the JLA and the JLE, Wally West and Ralph Dibny decided to drop in on the Doom Patrol, whose own book was in the surreal Grant Morrison era. Experiencing some of this effect, what great mystery of life did Ralph briefly think he solved?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/19/17 10:27 PM
Breakdowns doesn't have the best reputation in some quarters but I remember enjoying it.

I remember this issue but don't remember the answer.

Ummm - whether God exists?
Nope, a bit more mundane than that.
re the JLA/Avengers Q, yeah, I thought JLA/Avengers would hold the answer.

I liked parts of Breakdowns, especially the Silver Sorceress' last stand. or so much the actual break up.

Hmmm...

Ralph figured out why sock pairs often get separated in the laundry?
That was it! You're up, Ibby!
wow. I never even read that issue... but we were just talking about socks and laundry in our class chat the other day...

Which JSA member did Magog shoot down, causing Power Girl to kick him off the team?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/20/17 07:40 PM
^ That... is the most randomly lucky guess! Of all the questions in the universe, you just randomly thought of missing socks?!? I think Saturn Girl might be a distant descendant of yours IB!

Re: the Q - Cyclone?
Lightning (Black Lightning's daughter)?
Originally Posted by Blacula
^ That... is the most randomly lucky guess! Of all the questions in the universe, you just randomly thought of missing socks?!? I think Saturn Girl might be a distant descendant of yours IB!

Re: the Q - Cyclone?


Or Dream Girl? I wonder how I can put my telepathy and/or precognition to good use! Must.. manifest...

And it was Cyclone! Over to you Blacula.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/28/17 09:12 PM
There are a number of fictional countries in the DCU.

Please name 10 of them.
Bialya
Qurac
Modora
Santa Prisca
Vlatava
Themiscyra
Atlantis
Markovia
Mozambia
Kooey Kooey Kooey
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/29/17 12:03 AM
Awesome work CMK. I've got a list of 16 of the more prominent fictional countries in the DCU and you've named 9 of them. (I should have asked you to name 15 if I'd known you'd find it so easy! wink )

I don't have Mozambia on my list though. If you can point to where you get that country from, I'll give the Q to you, otherwise there's still 1 more country to get.
There's the place Black Adam ended up ruling: Khandaq. Still CMK for the next Q though, even if Mozambia isn't around.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/29/17 01:50 AM
Well done TL. Khandaq was another of the countries on my list. (I really should have asked for 15! I didn't expect this question to get solved in like 2 hours! haha)

To round out the others, there's:

* Abyssia (related to Looker of the Outsiders; although now that I think about it, I'm not sure if this underground kingdom is technically a country?)
* Badhnisia (where Johnny Thunder got his Thunderbolt)
* Oolong Island (from 52)
* Rheelasia (which appeared in a bunch of Chuck Dixon's work, such as Birds of Prey)
* Zambezi (Vixen's homeland; I wonder if this is what you were thinking of CMK?); and
* Zandia (Brother Blood's homeland).

If CMK was thinking of Zambezi, then, per the usual rules for these sorts of questions, the next question should be yours TL (for naming the last remaining country). If you want to give it up to CMK though, that's your right.
These are (at least some of) the issues in which Mozambia appeared.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/29/17 02:10 AM
Oh well done then! Weird that I've never heard of that country (although it doesn't help that I haven't read those 4 issues), especially because... I AM FROM THE ACTUAL (MO)ZAMBIA! Weird that they didn't just use that country, rather than slapping those 2 letters on to make this fake one.

Anyway, your Q CMK!
Well, the use of fake countries is probably to avoid explicitly upsetting any real countries' governments or citizens. I imagine Mozambia was not just MO added to Zambia, but meant as a pastiche of Zambia and Mozambique.

Name the two beings that Robby Reed split into, who were the prime movers in the Chris King-Vicki Grant Dial H for Hero stories?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/29/17 05:51 AM
^ I definitely think that's the reason CMK, but (as a former resident of one of those countries) it actually had the sort of opposite effect on me. I know I would have been absolutely thrilled to see my little, relatively unkown (at least in America) country of Zambia appear in a DC comic and remember how annoyed/confused I was when I first saw "Zambezi" appear in a Vixen story. On the other hand, I am an absolute 1000% fan and supporter of DC's habit of creating fictional cities and countries, so I guess I shouldn't complain when it's one that's close to my heart that's been effectively "replaced" (for storytelling purposes, if not on an actual map of the DCU).

Re: the Q: I feel like one was called something like "The Master? Or maybe I'm completely wrong? My sole recollection of this story is from it's mention in a "Who's Who" entry I read many years ago.
You are correct, The Master was one of those beings.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/03/17 03:26 PM
The name 'Future Man' came into my head but it's a wild guess.
I think that Vicki Grant once turned into "Future Girl", but "Future Man" was not the other being that Robby Reed became.
Errrrr... I have vague recollections of this...

The Wizard?
Sneaky George Perez covers resulted in a Dial H comic being among my earliest DC back issues.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/05/17 11:59 PM
^ Tangentially related, those last few issues of Adventure that followed the Dial-H series have been on my 'must get' list for ages now.

I was recently at a comic shop that was having a big sale and I saw miniature, Digest sized versions of those issues for really cheap and thought to myself "Weird. Why would DC reprint those issues in these small copies?" It was only after I got home that I discovered that those issues were only ever printed in miniature, Digest sized versions! cry

Hopefully they'll still be there for the next sale.
Correct, Myg - the Wizard was good, the Master was evil.

So one for Blacula and one for Myg - whichever of you has a question first, go for it!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/08/17 08:05 AM
'Wizard' earns more points in Scrabble so Myg can have it. smile
LOL
That was a guess from a vague memory

New Q up soon
Who did the New Mutants team up with to face Viper?
Captain America?
Spiderman?
Falcon?
Wow. I thought this would be easy.

Not Falcon nor Cap nor Spiderman
Iron Man
Not Iron Man
Daredevil?
Who did the New Mutants team up with to face Viper?

NOT:
Iron Man
Daredevil
Captain America
Falcon
Spiderman

HINT: These were surprise revealed as mutants
Cloak & Dagger?
CLOSE in terms of Marvel era and the whole surprise mutant thing ... but this team never really made it out of the 1980s (like most toy-associated heros)

Who did the New Mutants team up with to face Viper?

NOT:
Iron Man
Daredevil
Captain America
Falcon
Spiderman
Cloak and Dagger
HINT: These were surprise revealed as mutants
Unless I am being thrown by the toy-related... The Micronauts?
Not the Micronauts ,but you are on the right track...
Crystar smile
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/14/17 02:49 PM
ROM?
Not Cystar nor Rom (but I'm enjoying the nostalgia)


When I said you were on the right track, I meant it!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/14/17 04:30 PM
Dazzler lays down tracks I think.
US1?
Not Dazz nor US 1

Quis is getting closer ... this team ended up having to change their name because Marvel wanted to keep them BUT there was a far more famous (completely unrelated) show using the name
G.I. Joe is a mutant? That should change some hearts and minds on the subject! smile
LOL ... it's NOT GI Joe... this was a replacement line for the (far more popular) Evel Knieval line of toys
Team America!
CMK has it!

Evel Knievel toys had to be rebranded because he was in jail for battery and assault. The toy line was renamed Team America (until that name was taken by a WAY more popular TV show).

Team America was a stunt cycle team who had a mysterious benefactor - the Dark Rider. The New Mutants went to a show and ended up getting involved with Viper (who was after the Dark Rider). Well, since the New Mutants are involved, of course it turns out that Team America are mutants - with the ability to project their skills onto a person to craft a gestalt being, the Dark Rider. Notably, this is the story where Karma "dies" (she actually gets possessed by the Shadow King).

Team America is brought back into Marvel in Captain America where they have been renamed the THUNDER RIDERS.

Clearly all the makings of a legendary team whose impact will be widely felt.

Ahem.

Over to you, CMK
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Evel Knievel toys had to be rebranded because he was in jail for battery and assault.


This led to manufacturers putting "Battery Not Included" on the box of their toys. smile
What was the original super-villain identity of the villain most commonly known as Whirlwind?
The Tornado Champion Tyrant Bureaucrat!
Nope, but cute. (And BTW, LOL on the battery thing)
Huff and Puff Man?
Nope, and his secret identity isn't Bigby Wolf, either.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Nope, but cute. (And BTW, LOL on the battery thing)


Yay! smile

The Spinning Top
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/17/17 04:40 PM
Whizzer?
Pretty close, thoth, but not quite exactly. No on Whizzer.
Twirly top knife guy?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Pretty close, thoth, but not quite exactly. No on Whizzer.


Bah! Nothing worse than the ones when I get close but have no follow up ideas. Well, I had one. But Andy totally snuck in with "Twirly top knife guy" who he knows is my favourite. Bah!

The Woodentops were a kid's TV show... the four tops were a band...

There is a Top for DC... Was it changed from that to avoid any comparisons? I'll go for The Top!
Not simply the Top. He was the _______ Top.
The Spinning Top?
Nope.
The Uncanny Top?
The Halter Top before quickly changing that early costume smile
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Well, I had one. But Andy totally snuck in with "Twirly top knife guy" who he knows is my favourite. Bah!



Well I remembered the big Doom Patrol/Defenders crossover that had Twirly top knife guy as one of the key street level foes to drive the heroes to fight _______


Errrrrr... How about the Whirly Top?
None of those.

I'll give it one more day, and if no one gets it, I'll give it to thoth lad, who came up with "Top" first.
>sits back in evil lair awaiting outcome< not even Twirly top knife guy can stop me now!
The correct answer was the Human Top.

thoth lad, take it away!
Of course! The Human Top! I was going to guess the Green Top ... just as sinister, just as on the nose
Whew! Glad I didn't go with my guess of The Quadruped Top now. New Q soooon!
Well I was going to guess Bilateral Symmetry Top ... but I figured Marvel would have given him his own comic with that name
It's tough at the top as top characters fight for top spot: Quadruped Top vs Bilateral Symmetry Top vs Twirly top knife guy in Top Top! Only from Tip Top Comics. Tip Top Comics: Get To The Top of the Queue.
You guys are totally making my head spin!
I'm in a whirl.
Still waiting for a new question from thoth lad
*Still?!* I'd not put up with that for another moment!

Dr Doom wants to become Emperor Doom. Which villain did he plan to use to power a device in order to reach that goal?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/25/17 12:50 AM
Moses Magnum?
Purple Man
It was The Purple Man. I've not read it but imagine that the device would enable Doom to order everyone on the planet around.

Over to Andy
Doom had created a giant jewel to enhance and project Purple Man's powers across the world. Of course, it's odd that a genius like Doom would overlook that Purple Man's powers are pheremonal in nature and therefore I'm not sure how one broadcasts that via an enclosed powered up jewel that Purple Man is stuck inside.

Ahem. Even odder - at some point Doom blamed his weird(er) failures on Doombots, including this story. Of course


Ok.... in honor of the Idol going... which villain lured Atom, Flash and Supergirl to his planet to destroy them?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/26/17 06:08 AM
Yesterday, I would have said T.O. Day.
Tomorrow, I might have said Y.E.S. Terday.
But today, I’m going to say T.O. Morrow.
It was indeed TO Morrow!

Over to Blacula
Was that tbe story referenced in Morrow's return to face the JLA? So.ething about Morrow's computer creating multiples of him to explain his various appearances.
That's exactly the story I got it from!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/26/17 08:23 PM
It was an issue of Super-Team Family. I bought it a few months ago but haven’t read it yet. I’m looking forward to but it seems like a totally bizarre premise; How did a ‘mad scientist’ character like Morrow become the ruler of a distant planet? When did he start wearing a standard super-villain costume? Why would he want to kill the totally random combo of Atom, Flash and Supergirl?

I love Bronze Age whackiness so I cant wait to find out!
I' ve never picked that one up. Do let us know what you think of it.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/27/17 07:09 AM
^ I will but it may take a while; I’m trying to complete the series before I start reading it.

Q: When DC Comics (then known as National Periodical Publications) bought Quality Comics in the1950s it chose to keep only four of Quality’s ongoing titles running. Which four were they?
Plastic Man
Blackhawk
A war one ... Our Army At war?
A romance one ... G.I. Romance smile
Clearly they kept Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, Girls in Love and Love Letters
Ah but Beetle and Atom were Charlton. Quality did Great titles like the Uncle Sam and Human Bomb In Love one shot. Well, it was more like one panel than one story... smile
Ahhh of course... I shall have to focus! Charlton characters are not Quality characters!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/28/17 04:39 PM
Only one correct so far but one of you was very close with one of your other guesses and you’re both definitely on the right track with the general theme of your guesses.

Q: When DC Comics (then known as National Periodical Publications) bought Quality Comics in the1950s it chose to keep only four of Quality’s ongoing titles running. Which four were they?

1. Blackhawk
2.
3.
4.
G.I. Combat?
Young Love?
Broken Hearts?
I know there's a romance title (at least one), and there has to be something that showcased Plas and Midnight and Firebrand so I'm going with ...

Police Comics
Love Letters

And just for good measure:
Western Comics
I had to get the foreign editions of those growing up:-

Police Action Comics - Banned by the government and the printing presses destroyed after #3.
French Letter Comics - Shut down by the local Comic Code after #2. The free gifts in #1 were interesting though.
Sort of Central and North a Bit Monthly - Notable for the all inclusive main character Meandering Man and his genre free, inoffensive tales. Shot by the townsfolk in issue #4.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/31/17 04:06 AM
Q: When DC Comics (then known as National Periodical Publications) bought Quality Comics in the1950s it chose to keep only four of Quality’s ongoing titles running. Which four were they?

1. Blackhawk
2. G.I. Combat
3.
4.

You are both correct to be guessing a romance title for one of the last two spots. I’m not sure how to classify the final title. Adventure? Crime? I will say that it stars a very famous character.
The classic Brides Romances
National Comics featuring Uncle Sam?

Um... I love this era of comics for the covers
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/31/17 06:43 AM
^ Neither of those two Andy (I think Uncle Sam was... Charlton?).

Edit: Actually, I just double-checked and he was Quality!
tsk I even mentioned Uncle Sam in one of my Quality quips (that's the only chance I'll get to put "quality" in the same sentence as them smile ) smile

Is The Spirit one of them?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/31/17 05:46 PM
^ Haha. So you did. Not sure how I missed that.

Since I’m pretty sure none of us in here were big collectors of romance titles, I’ll give a clue re: that one.

The two word title has two meanings:

1. Something else else that an organ in the body does; and
2. An attractive person.

The final title is not the Spirit. The character is a lot more famous than that. As a clue, I’ll tell you that according to the GCD, the title character has appeared in more than 1100 stories across multiple publishers.
I'm actually fond of the romance covers when Teeds posts them here. All that heartbreak, loss and angst in a single cover.

EDIT: Completely misread Blacula's post. I thought the clues 1 and 2 were for one book each. So ignore the following:-

1. ... sorry... this is going to take a minute... just avoiding all the rude options... right... Spleen Vent Monthly Heartbeat Monthly?
2. All-thoth Monthly Zorro?


And go for :-

Heartthrob Monthly
I'll still try Zorro actually
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/01/17 03:53 AM
Q: When DC Comics (then known as National Periodical Publications) bought Quality Comics in the1950s it chose to keep only four of Quality’s ongoing titles running. Which four were they?

1. Blackhawk
2. G.I. Combat
3. Heart Throbs
4.

Zorro is not a bad guess for the final title. Think of someone similar who used to appear regularly in DC stories.
thoth is thinking... in case you were alarmed by the grinding mechanical gear sounds...
Hercules?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/04/17 04:58 PM
Another good guess but incorrect. Zorro was closer.

When I said this character was famous earlier, this is how famous:

Not only has this character featured in a literally countless amount of:

* Plays,
* Books,
* Movies,
* TV series’,
* Operas,
* Songs,
* Video games,
* Strategy games,
* Comic books, and
* Toys,

But they are also:

* The subject of a university course,
* The mascot of a sports team,
* The name of a charity, and
* The name of a tax.
Tarzan?
Oh, good one Ibby. I can't think past the Scarlet Pimpernel and I'm sure that can't be right. smile
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/05/17 03:17 PM
Neither of those two but you’re on the right track in that this is obviously a public domain character.
Ton Sawyer
Robin Hood? thinking on the tax one.
would have been my next guess, because of the taxes too!
"Never mind your entertainment! Give me more on taxes!" - Wayland Bannan to his parents before ending up in Action #387 years later. smile
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/05/17 09:00 PM
Yes! I thought the tax and the charity were the biggest clues.

Robin Hood Tales was the final title.

Back to you TL.
Sigh what possessed me to choose Tom Sawyer over Robin Hood...

Nice guessing hothy!
Ta! I was about to go with King Arthur until that popped into my head. For that to have been right it would have been the "I'll hit you over the head with the pommel of my sword until you give me all your money" tax. Ah Ye Olde Dayes! smile

New Q shortly-ish.
bump for a question
Planetary's Jakita Wagner was the daughter of another hero. That hero is a homage to a much more famous character who has also appeared in comics. Who is that famous character?
Doc Savage?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/20/17 05:58 AM
That's the name I was looking for. I kept wanting to say Doctor Bronze for some reason.
Tarzan
It wasn't Doc Savage. He became Doc Brass in Planetary, but it was Tarzan! So over to you Andy!
Sigh ! Oh me and my Planetary collection!

Um, fine, fine ... what was the first verbal cue that Midnighter and the Apollo were a gay couple?
I remember the panel of them kissing... verbal cue... Did someone ask them to get a room after Apollo came back from getting badly beat up and Midnighter fussed over him?
Nope! That was the second one

One of their colleagues asked a very specific question first
Someone asked one of them the name of their wife?
nope
One said "Are you coming home tonight?"
LOL nope
someone said “give me a clue so I can guess who your significant other is otherwise I will just start spouting random quotes?”
Fine, fine

One of the Authority compared them to another famous "couple"

I'll give it to whomever can guess the couple
Tee bee thanks for the clue Myg smile Hope i wasn’t coming across as snippy

hmmm they were compared to Laurel and Hardy?
They got compared to Bogie and Bacall?

We had it all
Just like Bogie and Bacall
Starring in our old late, late show
Sailing away to Key Largo
Not Laurel and Hardy NOR Bogie and Bacall
Batman and Robin
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/25/17 09:37 AM
Romeo & Juliet?
What famous "couple" were Midnighter and Apollo compared to that clued us in on their sexuality?

Not
Laurel and Hardy
Bogie and Bacall
Batman and Robin
Romeo and Juliet
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/25/17 06:04 PM
Bert and Ernie?
Siegfried & Roy?
Blacula has it! Jennie Sparks asked them "which one of you is Bert and which one is Ernie?"

Over to you!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/26/17 02:05 AM
Completely random guesses for the win!

OK, in honour of Legion World's newly-designated BEST JLA VILLAIN OF ALL TIME (Starro) here's a question about that lovable starfish:

Everyone should know that Starro was the first ever (published) JLA villain in The Brave and the Bold #28, but what people might not know is that Starro was ALSO the first ever (published) villain for another well-known DC super-team.

Which one?
Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/26/17 08:08 AM
Even Fastback would be impressed by that speed Andy!

Back to you.
AGH The price of winning!!!

Errr... Who has been a member of the Avengers, Defenders and Fantastic 4?
Luke Cage?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/27/17 06:09 AM
She-Hulk?
Spider-Man?
CMK has it in one - Luke Cage is the only person who has been part of all three teams (so far)
Name the five new members who joined the JSA when they moved to Monument Point.
Ri
Darknight
Red Beetle
Manhunter (Kate Spencer)
Blue Devil
That's them.

I was just re-reading that run. Why in the world did the JSA decide they needed to see what was inside that big door under Monument Point? It was clearly nothing but trouble.
I dropped them at this point of the run... I just didn't understand it
I suspect it would have been more comprehensible if they weren't rushing to wrap stuff up before the New 52. I'm sure the writer didn't intend to introduce these new characters (Ri, Red Beetle and Darknight) without ever giving them a backstory. And in the last issue, Mister Terrific, who had lost his intelligence, gets it back with no explanation, just a caption saying "he got better".
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/28/17 10:13 AM
Is it possible to despise a comic run you’ve never read? If so, that’s how I feel about this JSA run.

Everything I’ve seen/heard about it looks like absolute crap but the thing I hate most of all about it is what this question is about - the new members. Until this point, every new JSA member had been either a legacy of or in some other way connected to a former member or another Golden Age character. And that sense of legacy and history going back some fifty years is so unique in comics and absolutely one of the things that made this team so special.

And then this hack writer (or more likely an interfering editor) comes along and wrecks it all in one fell swoop. What on earth Golden Age connection does Blue Devil have? He’s about as ‘80s a character as you can get! Same with the others (except maybe Manhunter, although I never liked this version anyway).

So sad how far this once great book fell.
I still read the run until the end, but also felt I should have stopped much earlier . Lots of random new characters overcrowding the book, too bad because Ri at least had interesting healing powers

Which JL member had a book collection shipped to League HQ?
Ice?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/28/17 03:28 PM
Dr Light?
nope to both
Going with a counter intuitive guess. Guy Gardner?
Martian Manhunter?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/29/17 04:57 AM
Elongated Man?
nope to all,

but you are correct that he is male


Which JL member had a book collection shipped to League HQ?

Not:

Ice
Doctor Light
Guy Gardner
Martian Manhunter
Elongated Man
Rocket Red?
Nope
Green Arrow?
nope
General Glory?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/29/17 07:42 PM
Batman?
Nope to all

Which JL member had a book collection shipped to League HQ?

Not:

Ice
Doctor Light
Guy Gardner
Martian Manhunter
Elongated Man
Rocket Red
Green Arrow
Batman
General Glory

Character is male and was part of the JLI era
Booster Gold?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/30/17 01:32 AM
Tasmanian Devil?
Yes! it was Taz, he had his entire book collection shipped from Australia to Europe for his second stint with the JLI

Over to you Blacula
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/08/17 04:17 AM
Which DC villain was inspired by the advertising mascot of a cigarette company?
Uh... Wally Tortolini?
Deadshot?
The Ten Eyed Man!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/09/17 08:03 PM
None of the above.

CLUE: This is a very well known DC villain.
I’m trying to think of villains with smoke or fire...

Two-Face? I seem to remember him always with a cigarette
DARKSEID
Penguin?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/11/17 01:10 AM
Correct! Kool Cigarettes had a penguin mascot named Willie who wore a top hat, bow tie and monocle and smoked a long cigarette (of course) and Kane and Finger used him as inspiration for their Batman villain.

Here’s a pic: https://www.hakes.com/Auction/ItemD...ENGUIN-LARGE-FIGURAL-COUNTER-TOP-DISPLAY

Over to you QE.
Wow. I thought you meant in story inspired by. Like Captain Boomerang was the mascot of a toy company.

Why was Earth-B designated Earth-B?
Because it consisted of stories published in "The Brave and the Bold"?
Not totally correct.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/11/17 09:11 PM
Piggy-backing on CMK's guess:

It was for some of the stories Bob Haney wrote?
Yup. Earth-B was for all those stories that did not fit into Earth-1 continuity. Usually written by Bob Haney. sometimes for Brave & Bold, but not all Brave & Bold stories took place on Earth-B
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/12/17 07:26 PM
Since I wouldn’t have gotten that without the inspiration from CMK, and I just asked a question, I’ll let him have the next question if he wants.
Sure, I'll give it a shot.

Whom did Renee Montoya resurrect with the Spear of Destiny?
Spectre?
Nope.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/13/17 09:52 AM
Vandal Savage?
Deadman?
Hitler
None of those three, either.
Vic Sage?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/13/17 07:34 PM
Crispus Allen? (I think that was the name of the Gotham Central character.)
Neither of them. Crispus Allen is indeed an important character in all this, but he was not returned to life.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/14/17 04:15 PM
Crispus Allen’s son?
Batwoman?
Blacula got it!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/16/17 05:05 AM
The Joker once served as an ambassador to the United Nations for which country?
Bialya?
I think it was a real country - Lebanon?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/16/17 06:38 PM
It was a real country. But it was not Lebanon.
Iran?
Iraq?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/17/17 07:49 AM
Quis has it! It was Iran. In the famous “A Death in the Family” story.
The Golden Age Black Condor and the Golden Age Wonder Woman have what in common?
Their civilian identities were "borrowed" from someone else?
That's it. Black Condor took over Sen. Thomas Wright's identity and Wonder Woman took over Diana Prince's identity. Presumable taking over a senator's identity would be more difficult today.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/18/17 09:54 PM
I never knew that about "Diana Prince"! I love the things I learn in these Trivia threads!
There are conflicting stories. One has WW just adopting the identity. Another has her buying Diana Prince's id papers so Diana can go to Argentina to be with her fiance.
I think there's at least one story where the real Diana Prince comes back and wants her identity back!

I've always been fascinated by Black Condor's secret identity, because it seems to set up a lot of interesting story potential.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/23/17 07:46 PM
“Siiiiiilent bump, Hoooooooly bump...”
Timid radio engineer and inventor Fred Carson received super-powers from a ring given to him by Tibetan monk. Pretty standard fare for a Golden Age character's origin, but why is he significant in the history of comics?
He was the only character to ever have received powers from a predominately non white country who was actually non white?
Well Fred Carson was the first comic book character written by Jack Kirby!
Originally Posted by thoth lad
He was the only character to ever have received powers from a predominately non white country who was actually non white?


Nope! He was pretty much the whitest thing since Whitey came to Whitetown!

Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Well Fred Carson was the first comic book character written by Jack Kirby!


Nope! And while I believe he may have been the first character written by another famous comic creator, that's not the fact that I'm looking for.
He was subject of a law suit from All-American over similarities to the Alan Scott version of Green Lantern?
You're on the right track!
His stories were discontinued because of a lawsuit?
That's part of it, but I'm looking for a bit more.
Fallout from the Fawcett / DC issues over Cap Marvel/ Superman?
He would have been the first gay character if the law suit about promoting certain lifestyles was not successful
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Fallout from the Fawcett / DC issues over Cap Marvel/ Superman?


On the right track, but going in the wrong direction!


Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
He would have been the first gay character if the law suit about promoting certain lifestyles was not successful


Nope! Though looking at his cover appearance... wink
Well I'm guessing that since his stories were discontinued due to a lawsuit ... and Fawcett/DC is in the "wrong direction"... Timely Comics sued the company for copyright infringement?
Was the cover appearance too close to Superman's Action Comics for DC's liking?
thoth keeps getting so close, so I'm just going to give it to him.

Fred Carson was Wonder Man, who holds the distinction of having been the *first* character to have generated a lawsuit for copyright infringement on Superman. He was pretty clearly created by Fox Publications to capitalize on Superman's success. He was created, and his sole appearance was written and drawn, by none other than Will Eisner!
He prances over tall buildings in a single bound!

Attached picture Wonder_Comics_Cover_1.jpg
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/26/17 09:19 AM
I’m late to the party unfortunately but that was my favorite type of Trivia Thread question - fun to think up an answer for AND teaches me an interesting factoid!

Good going EDE!
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
thoth keeps getting so close, so I'm just going to give it to him.


I think this should be adopted as a rule. I should just have to get close. smile

Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Fred Carson was Wonder Man

Ah, that was Wonder Man. I'd read about him. I don't think I knew about the Eisner connection though. Comics we'll never see more of.

New Q as soon as I'm at my books, and after I've found a *!$* Titans question....
thoth lad - super getting-close-to-the-target powers!
Originally Posted by Blacula
but that was my favorite type of Trivia Thread question - fun to think up an answer for AND teaches me an interesting factoid!


heh. Loads of pressure on the next clown who has to ask a question and meet *those* standards....ah heck... smile


I'm looking for a question. I *do* have a factoid to tide you over! And it links to recent questions too!

Following the success of Richard Greene in the 1950s Adventures of Robin Hood TV show, at least 7 comic companies launched Robin Hood Comics (see Robin Hood question), as there was no copyright (see Wonder Man above). DC , Magazine Enterprises, Charlton, Quality, Dell, Gilberton's Classics Illustrated and ACG all launched Robin Hood titles.
Jimmy Olsen has discovered that the alternate selves that have appeared are actually all connected to the Legion. But who is impersonating each of these classic Olsens? :-

Giant Turtle Man Olsen -
Porcupine Man Olsen -
Wolf Man Olsen -
Fat Boy Olsen -
Elastic Lad -
Giant Turtle Man Olsen - Colossal boy
Porcupine Man Olsen - Cosmic Boy
Wolf Man Olsen - Sueprboy?
Fat Boy Olsen - Bouncing Boy
Elastic Lad - Chameleon Boy
Giant Turtle Man Olsen - Colosal Boy
Porcupine Man Olsen - Superboy
Wolf Man Olsen - Timber Wolf
Fat Boy Olsen - Chameleon Boy
Elastic Lad - Proty
Ibby has 4, including a tough one, and should look for a little clue in how I had to word the question to help with the answer.

Andy has 1 right, but two other names are just beside the wrong Olsen.
Giant Turtle Man Olsen - Colossal boy
Porcupine Man Olsen - Cosmic Boy
Wolf Man Olsen - Proty
Fat Boy Olsen - Bouncing Boy
Elastic Lad - Chameleon Boy
Fine, take my Proty! LOL

I'm pretty sure that's the line up, Ibby
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Fine, take my Proty!


This summer's Legion World T-Shirt logo?

It is the line up! Porcupines must get loads of iron in their diet for Rokk to be using their quills. This was before Timberwolf, so I would have guessed a Jekyll & Hyde formula swigging Brainy for the Wolf Man smile

Over to you Ibby!
That was a "cute" story. Rokk was using his magnetism to fire the quills, if I remember right.

okay...

Which four Justice Leaguers were fired by Rolf Heimlich?
Fire, Ice, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold?
Batman
Aquaman
Green Lantern
Elongated Man
General Glory
LRon
Beetle
Ice
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/10/18 02:46 PM
Blue Beetle
Elongated Man
Ice
Guy Gardner
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Fire, Ice, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold?


2 right

Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Batman
Aquaman
Green Lantern
Elongated Man


1 right

Originally Posted by thoth lad
General Glory
LRon
Beetle
Ice


2 right

Originally Posted by Blacula
Blue Beetle
Elongated Man
Ice
Guy Gardner


3 right!

One of the four correct answers has not been guessed yet.
Beetle
Ice
Ralph
Blue Jay
Three right.
Beetle
Ice
Ralph

...
Captain Atom?
Beetle
Ice
Ralph

Rocket Fred
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Beetle
Ice
Ralph

...
Captain Atom?


Myg has it!

Beetle was fired for not having any useful powers/skills and for his antics being the "number one most embarrassing factor to the new League!"
Ice was fired for not having the proper temperament to be a superhero (being too passive and nice)
Ralph was fired for not following orders, being too silly, being careless, having silly powers, and for "having a costume even uglier than the Silver Sorceress'"!
And Cap was fired for insubordination, because he wouldn't accept Rolf's authority.
I vaguely remember the grouping but not the storyline .... hmmmm ... new Q up at some point
This was during the Breakdowns storyline.
Ok, I'm on travel and away from my books... so here's one... Which Eternal did Thor first have contact with?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
This was during the Breakdowns storyline.


It was only Chaim's answer that reminded me of breakdowns. I have mercifully forgotten, nearly everything about it. All that remains is a mental note not to read it again. smile

Um... I don't know anything about the Eternals. Maybe Gaiman ripped them off for the Endless. Death?
Hmmm I forgot that the Marvel knowledge here is low ... Not Death

The Eternals were a Kirby creation at Marvel ... ambitious, flawed concept - the Eternals and the Deviants were created by Celestials - a race of cosmically powered people mistaken for gods and the other a group of constant mutation
Were the Celestials those giant, ominous things in Kirby gear? I did read Universe X and the Marvel handbooks... but no memory remains...
The Forgotten One? (aka Gilgamesh)
I'm not sure who the Celestials were... was Sersi one of them?
Thanos?
Sersi was one of them
But it was not Sersi, Thanos or Gilgamesh
Starfox
Not Starfox - it was one of the Earth Eternals
Ikaris?
Not Ikaris -- but a family member....
Zuras?
Close... it's a nephew (hint: he's not one of the nice Eternals)
I'm just giving this to CMK... I was clearly a little too obscure with this one
It's Druig, who ended up trying to free a powerful Deviant to use as his slave (which backfired of course)

Over to you, CMK
wee bump up!
Sorry I didn't notice, thanks for the PM -

Who "officially" accepted Nebula into the Avengers?
Doctor Druid?
Correct! (Under her mental influence, of course.)
bump for thothy!
Really? Crumbs, that was a total guess. I've only got the one issue. I think Nebula was approaching in a spaceship towards the end of it.

New Q soon. Thanks for the bump Ibby.
Keeping with the Avengers. What was the secret of the Red Guardian's identity?
Which Red Guardian? The man who was married to Black Widow?
Or the woman who was a top surgeon and ended up being cosmically powered?
Or the guy who was killed by the Dire Wraiths?

(Um.... I do not read that much Marvel anymore but I've got 3 decades of it under my belt)
Right with the first line. smile

Although it was full of the team picking fights with each other, there was a heck of a lot of subplots going on in the issue too. Wolfman & Perez Titans level.

Over to you Andy!
hmmm... Which Avenger joined after brunch?
Hercules?
Beast?
Not Hercules nor Beast

(apologies for the lag - I've been traveling and under crazy deadlines)
No problem Andy. Always good to see you.

D-Man?
Triathlon?
She-Hulk?
Well, when Janet Van Dyne recruits heroes, she does it over brunch! Yes, She-Hulk joined after the gathered heroines fought off the Mechano Marauder!

Over to you, CMK!


I can just imagine them sipping mimosas and gossiping about super-villains' dating habits.
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Well, when Janet Van Dyne recruits heroes, she does it over brunch! Yes, She-Hulk joined after the gathered heroines fought off the Mechano Marauder!

Over to you, CMK!


One of the earliest comics I owned!

(In an earlier trivia question, I asked players to name all the potential candidates from the cover!)
One of my favorite aspects of that cover was that one of the boxes was labelled "Invisible Girl" and was empty.

When Thanos was first collecting the Inifinity Gems, all of the holders of said gems at the time but one were Elders of the Universe. Who is the only one who wasn't considered to be such?
I thought this sounded familiar. EDEs question!

Adam Warlock?
How long ago was that? I had no idea!

Not Adam Warlock.
Hmmm. Quasar maybe?
Not Quasar either.
Silver Surfer?
Nope, not the Silver Surfer.
Galactus?
Not Galactus, although prior to Thanos's gathering of them, the stones were all last together inside his stomach. Nonetheless, when they were extracted from there, five of them were taken, one apiece, by an Elder of the Universe, and the sixth by a Marvel Cosmic being who is not considered to be one of that grouping.
Ooooh... considering I've read none of this, that wasn't a bad guess. smile

The Watcher?
Nope, he did not interfere in this matter.
Living Tribunal?
Not the Living Tribunal.
Her?
Not Her.

Hint: this Marvel character has something in common with DC's Doctor Fate or Hawk & Dove.
I know nothing about chaos and order in the Marvel universe, unfortunately

Scarlet Witch?
Not the Scarlet Witch.
Cthon?
Nope. Those are indeed beings associated with "Chaos Magic", but the being I'm talking about is not magical, he/she/it is sci-fi cosmic.
mmmmm Doctor Doom?
Nope. No one who ever lived on Earth.
drat, I was going to guess Moondragon next...
I know so little about Marvel's cosmic stuff, I could do with a hint. >sniffs at losing non existent quiz points<
Hint: Half of this character's face and body is black and the other half is white.
I'm hoping Ibby knows who this is.
Nada, I’m more of a DC fan than a Marvel fan. this doesn’t ring any bells
I keep thinking of Jack of Hearts. He isn't remotely cosmic by any chance is he?
Hmmm....
He's got a bit of cosmic about him, but he's not the answer, and it's pretty clear by now that no one is likely to get it.

The answer is The In-Betweener.

Next Q to whoever wants it.
Thanks, CMK! I don't think either thoth or I would have gotten that. I've never even heard of The In-Betweener before.

Ok...

Which superhero was Living Lightning talking to, when he (Living Lightning) was revealed (to us readers, at least) as gay?
The In-Betweener? smile

Thanks for the answer Chaim. I think I've heard of him, but it could be from the equivalent of Marvel's Who's Who.
Sadly, not the In-Betweener wink
Firebird?
Nope
Wonder Man?
nope
Iron Man?
Nope

Clue: this hero was only somewhat connected to the Avengers

Which superhero was Living Lightning talking to, when he (Living Lightning) was revealed (to us readers, at least) as gay?

Not:

In-Betweener
Firebird
Wonder Man
Iron Man

Clue: this hero was only somewhat connected to the Avengers
Moon Knight?
Not Moon Knight

the connection is a bit more weak than that
Jessica Drew?
Not Jessica Drew.
Which superhero was Living Lightning talking to, when he (Living Lightning) was revealed (to us readers, at least) as gay?

Not:

In-Betweener
Firebird
Wonder Man
Iron Man
Moon Knight
Jessica Drew

Clue: this hero was only somewhat connected to the Avengers
Spider-Man?
Nope

The connection to the Avengers is not only weak, it is disputed

Which superhero was Living Lightning talking to, when he (Living Lightning) was revealed (to us readers, at least) as gay?

Not:

In-Betweener
Firebird
Wonder Man
Iron Man
Moon Knight
Jessica Drew
Spider-Man

Clue: this hero was only somewhat connected to the Avengers. The connection is weak and has been disputed.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/05/18 11:47 PM
Northstar?
nope

this hero isn’t on a team that the Avengers regard highly
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/06/18 10:17 PM
Flat Man?
Blacula has it! It was Flatman, who contacted Living Lightning while recruiting for the Great Lakes Avengers (or whatever their team name was then)!
Good shout Blacula!

I quite liked the GLA when Byrne introduced them.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/09/18 04:57 PM
You should all be ashamed for letting someone who's never bought a Marvel comic in their life win a Marvel question! wink

One day I intend to create a thread of random comic-related Top 10 lists and the first list on it will be "Top 10 Marvel Characters That This (Pre-nu52) DC-Only Fan Wishes Were In The DCU" and Living Lightning would definitely be on that list. I know almost nothing about him but for some reason he still seems kinda cool.

This question rung a vague bell because I'm also a Paul Pelletier fan and I think I remember seeing Living Lightning in a 'Great Lakes Avengers' issue while I was flicking through it in a store for his artwork.

---

OK question time:

1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".

Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?
Living Lightning has a great concept! I’ve bought very few Marvel comics in my lifetime too, but when I found out he was gay I just had to check him out (not in that way...)
for the question:

1) Wonder Woman
2) Power Girl
3) Batgirl
4) Supergirl
5) Saturn Girl
6) Phantom Girl
7) Triplicate Girl
8) Light Lass
9) Dream Girl
10) Princess Projectra
11) Shadow Lass
12) Dawnstar
13) Shrinking Violet
14) Lois Lane
15) Catwoman
16) Poison Ivy
17) Star Sapphire
18) Queen Bee
19) Cheetah
20) Hippolyta
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/12/18 12:28 AM
1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".

Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?

1. Supergirl
2. Wonder Woman
3.
4. Batgirl
5.
6. Cheetah
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14. Star Sapphire
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

NOT: Power Girl, Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Light Lass, Dream Girl, Princess Projectra, Shadow Lass, Dawnstar, Shrinking Violet, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Queen Bee, Hippolyta.

5 down, 15 to go.
Batwoman
Wonder Girl
Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks
Harlequin
Red Tornado, Ma Hunkel
Golden Glider
Mary Marvel
Black Canary
Hawkwoman
Zatanna
Enchantress
Rose and Thorn
Phantom Lady
Circe
Lilith
Lana Lang
Alanna Strange
Bumblebee
Mera
Jean Loring
Silver Swan
Doctor Poison
Huntress
Miss America
Jade
Fury
Gee, not even a single Legionnaire besides Supergirl?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/12/18 03:13 PM
1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".

Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?

1. Supergirl
2. Wonder Woman
3. Black Canary
4. Batgirl
5. Harlequin
6. Cheetah
7. Phantom Lady
8.
9. Enchantress
10. Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks
11. Wonder Girl
12. Lilith
13.
14. Star Sapphire
15.
16.
17. Zatanna
18.
19. Rose & Thorn
20. Hawkgirl

NOT: Power Girl, Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Light Lass, Dream Girl, Princess Projectra, Shadow Lass, Dawnstar, Shrinking Violet, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Queen Bee, Hippolyta, Batwoman, Red Tornado (Ma Hunkel), Golden Glider, Mary Marvel, Circe, Lana Lang, Alanna Strange, Bumblebee, Mera, Jean Loring, Silver Swan, Doctor Poison, Huntress, Miss America, Jade, Fury.

15 down, 5 to go.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/12/18 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Gee, not even a single Legionnaire besides Supergirl?


The Time Bubble must've been in for repairs so they couldn't make it for the shot.
DC also decided, hey, the Legionnaires won't be born for another 1000 years...

Zinda Blake
Corky Baxter
Dolphin
June Robbins
June Walton
I had a feeling about Enchantress smile

Element Girl
Barda (how could I have forgotten Barda?)
Madame Rouge
Liberty Belle
Granny Goodness
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/14/18 09:51 PM
1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".

Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?

1. Supergirl
2. Wonder Woman
3. Black Canary
4. Batgirl
5. Harlequin
6. Cheetah
7. Phantom Lady
8.
9. Enchantress
10. Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks
11. Wonder Girl
12. Lilith
13. Liberty Belle
14. Star Sapphire
15.
16. Big Barda
17. Zatanna
18.
19. Rose & Thorn
20. Hawkgirl

NOT: Power Girl, Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Light Lass, Dream Girl, Princess Projectra, Shadow Lass, Dawnstar, Shrinking Violet, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Queen Bee, Hippolyta, Batwoman, Red Tornado, Golden Glider, Mary Marvel, Circe, Lana Lang, Alanna Strange, Bumblebee, Mera, Jean Loring, Silver Swan, Doctor Poison, Huntress, Miss America, Jade, Fury, Lady Blackhawk, Bonnie Baxter, Dolphin, June Robbins, June Walton, Element Girl, Madame Rouge, Granny Goodness.

17 down, 3 to go.

IB: I assume you meant Bonnie Baxter instead of Corky Baxter since he's her brother. Also, who's June Walton?
I think Walton is one of the Sea Devils.

Elasti Girl (even if she was dead at that point)
Platinum
Angel (from Angel and the Ape)
Originally Posted by Blacula


IB: I assume you meant Bonnie Baxter instead of Corky Baxter since he's her brother. Also, who's June Walton?



Oh yes, I meant Bonnie.

And June Walton is indeed one of the Sea Devils
Madame Xanadu
Big Barda
Killer Frost
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/15/18 10:58 PM
1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".

Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?

1. Supergirl
2. Wonder Woman
3. Black Canary
4. Batgirl
5. Harlequin
6. Cheetah
7. Phantom Lady
8.
9. Enchantress
10. Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks
11. Wonder Girl
12. Lilith
13. Liberty Belle
14. Star Sapphire
15.
16. Big Barda
17. Zatanna
18. Platinum
19. Rose & Thorn
20. Hawkgirl

NOT: Power Girl, Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Light Lass, Dream Girl, Princess Projectra, Shadow Lass, Dawnstar, Shrinking Violet, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Queen Bee, Hippolyta, Batwoman, Red Tornado, Golden Glider, Mary Marvel, Circe, Lana Lang, Alanna Strange, Bumblebee, Mera, Jean Loring, Silver Swan, Doctor Poison, Huntress, Miss America, Jade, Fury, Lady Blackhawk, Bonnie Baxter, Dolphin, June Robbins, June Walton, Element Girl, Madame Rouge, Granny Goodness, Elasti-Girl, Angel, Madame Xanadu, Killer Frost.

18 down, 2 to go.

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Oh yeah - the Sea Devils! The only one of them whose name I ever remember is Dane Dorrance. I've always wanted to read more of their adventures though. I love Russ Heath's art and I think he worked on that book. I'd kill for an Omnibus.
Beautiful Dreamer
Lori Lemaris
Dumb Bunny
Lady Blackhawk
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/16/18 06:28 PM
1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".

Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?

1. Supergirl
2. Wonder Woman
3. Black Canary
4. Batgirl
5. Harlequin
6. Cheetah
7. Phantom Lady
8. Dumb Bunny
9. Enchantress
10. Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks
11. Wonder Girl
12. Lilith
13. Liberty Belle
14. Star Sapphire
15. Beautiful Dreamer
16. Big Barda
17. Zatanna
18. Platinum
19. Rose & Thorn
20. Hawkgirl

NOT: Power Girl, Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Light Lass, Dream Girl, Princess Projectra, Shadow Lass, Dawnstar, Shrinking Violet, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Queen Bee, Hippolyta, Batwoman, Red Tornado, Golden Glider, Mary Marvel, Circe, Lana Lang, Alanna Strange, Bumblebee, Mera, Jean Loring, Silver Swan, Doctor Poison, Huntress, Miss America, Jade, Fury, Lady Blackhawk, Bonnie Baxter, Dolphin, June Robbins, June Walton, Element Girl, Madame Rouge, Granny Goodness, Elasti-Girl, Angel, Madame Xanadu, Killer Frost, Lori Lemaris.

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Well done guys! Beautiful Dreamer and Dumb Bunny were the last two characters correctly guessed and since TL got the final one, the next question goes to him.

I always love looking back at past DC events or covers that celebrate the company's top characters and seeing which ones have stayed popular to today and which ones have fallen by the wayside.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/16/18 06:28 PM
P.S. Here's the cover: https://www.comics.org/issue/24962/cover/4/
nice Q, Blacula, and nice going, thothy! I'm glad I contributed some too, lol.

And thanks for the link to the cover, Blacula. It's beautiful. I love questions like this, btw smile so much fun thinking of characters to guess
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/16/18 07:12 PM
^ Thanks IB. smile
Great question Blacula. I'll have a new one this weekend. It is a lovely cover.
What originally gave Miss America her Powers?
The Statue of Liberty?
Yes it was! Was that never changed? I remember she got transmutation powers at some point. But in the original she fell asleep on a bench, after wishing the statue of liberty would give her magical powers. Typical. When I pass out in random locations, I'm just picked up by the cops. smile

Over to you Ibby!
I guess you don't embody liberty enough... tongue

In the Golden Age elseworlds mini, who killed poor Miss America?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Yes it was! Was that never changed? I remember she got transmutation powers at some point. But in the original she fell asleep on a bench, after wishing the statue of liberty would give her magical powers. Typical. When I pass out in random locations, I'm just picked up by the cops. smile


I think modern version have her being some sort of government experiment, with the Statue of Liberty thing as an implanted memory or hallucination or something.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
I guess you don't embody liberty enough... tongue


I seemed pretty liberated from what I remember of events leading up to me falling over in random locations. smile

"Give me your hungry, your tired your poor I'll p!ss on 'em
that's what the Statue of Bigotry says
Your poor huddled masses, let's club 'em to death
and get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard"

- Lou Reed, Dirty Boulevard.


Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
I think modern version have her being some sort of government experiment, with the Statue of Liberty thing as an implanted memory or hallucination or something.


I think I've got that one. I think it might have been an issue of Secret Origins. Were they not trying to replace Wonder Woman with Miss America following Crisis?


Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
In the Golden Age elseworlds mini, who killed poor Miss America?


That would have been Robotman with a stretchy arm of steel.
Indeed it was! The Golden Age Robotman anyway, not the Doom Patrol one.
bump up for thothy tongue
I hasn't forgotten. The weekend will see me close to my comics.
Kevin Matchstick, of Mage comics, is connected to which legendary figure?
Merlin?
Very good guess. The answer is connected closely to that.
Hmmm Morgaine Le Fey?
Also connected very closely to that. The title is a little deceptive.
King Arthur?
Yup. Kevin has a magical baseball bat that is a stand in for Excalibur.

Over to you Ibby!
ooh, sounds cool!

Okay, let's see...

Which Young Justice member "died" during the Our Worlds at War event?
I have the Young Justice run, but haven't read it since it ended. And since "died" is in quotes, was it Secret, I believe her name was. Killed by Harm, her ...brother? And then "died" again? Going on pure memory and guesswork here.
good reasoning rick, but nope
Arrowette?
Nope either.

Arrowette and Secret were both present, though.
They were mentored by Red Tornado weren't they. He had a habit of seemingly dying and returning. Was it him?
Nope, either.

Which Young Justice member "died" during the Our Worlds at War event?

Not:

Secret, Arrowette (though both were present during the incident), Red Tornado

Looking back at the issue, there are actually two characters who could be the correct answer
Empress?
Nope
Impulse?
Yes! Impulse was one of them. He developed the ability to manifest "speed clones", which were versions of him created from the Speed Force. One of these "clones" died on Apokolips, sending Bart into a coma and making him give up heroing for a while.

Little Lobo was the other correct answer, beaten to death by a bunch of parademons. They didn't realize that each drop of blood would regenerate into a completely new Lobo... and the army of Lobos overwhelmed Granny Goodness and the Female Furies, allowing the rest of Young Justice to escape.
In an Avengers/Avengers West Coast Annual story, the Grandmaster plays a game against Death to win immortality for himself and other Elders of the Universe. In this story, the Avengers are forced to fight against a team of dead Marvel characters. Of the 15 members of this group, at least four were later revealed to have never been dead (several of the others were genuinely dead and were resurrected from the afterlife. This question refers only to those whose souls were revealed, retroactively, to have never departed their bodies). Who were these four?
Sentry
Mockingbird
Bucky Barnes
Wonder Man
Hellcat
Swordsman
Nighthawk
Doctor Druid
Bucky and Nighthawk are two of the correct answers.

Sentry wasn't yet introduced; Mockingbird, Wonder Man and Doctor Druid were alive and active on the Avengers side of that battle; Swordsman has remained dead, and Hellcat (whatever her status was at the time - I think she was alive and married to Daimon Hellstrom) was not at all involved in the story.
Jessica Drew
Uncle Ben?


Hm, I have nobody else to guess at the moment
Captain Marvel
Dracula
Jessica Drew was alive at the time, and Uncle Ben wasn't involved - he wouldn't have made much of a fighter against the Avengers - and anyway, he was never revealed as alive. Captain Marvel and Dracula were both on the team of the dead, but both were genuinely dead and any subsequent appearances were in the afterlife or of their having been reclaimed from the afterlife.
My lack of Marvel knowledge is hurting me here. Hmmm....

Mimic
Machine Man
Mimic was not in the story, and Machine Man was alive (and also not involved).
Hmm....

Jim Hammond
Magneto
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Captain Marvel and Dracula were both on the team of the dead...


It might not have been the answer to this question, but I'm chuffed to have got two that were there. smile


Baron Zemo
Jocasta
Baron Zemo was one of the dead in question, but was never retroactively revealed to be alive. Magneto was alive at the time. Jocasta was not in the story, and neither was Jim Hammond, who may or may not have been considered still living at the time, depending on how one views the Vision.

Summary:

Correct answers:

Bucky
Nighthawk

Incorrect answers who were members of the team of the dead:

Baron Zemo
Captain Marvel
Dracula
Swordsman

Other incorrect answers:

Doctor Druid
Hellcat
Jessica Drew
Jim Hammond
Jocasta
Machine Man
Magneto
Mimic
Mockingbird
Sentry
Uncle Ben
Wonder Man
Jean Grey
Thunderbird
Excellent thoughts, but neither of these characters were used in the story.

Hint: both of the characters in question were (from the perspective of the titular protagonists of the Marvel comic books) villains. One was Earthling but not American; the other was not from Earth.
oh dear, my Marvel villain knowledge is extremely limited
Drax the destroyer and ursa major
Drax was on the dead team, but was genuinely dead, his later resurrection having been revival from the afterlife.

Ursa Major was not involved (and I think alive at the time), but you have the correct foreign country.
Yay! Another correct guess for the dead team! smile

Red Guardian (there were a few of those I think)

I'll have to think on the alien...
Super Skrull?
Red Guardian is correct - the one in question being Alexei Shostakov, former husband of the Black Widow. He was revealed as having been alive during Bendis's Daredevil run.

Super Skrull is not correct, but the villain in question had similarly been an enemy of the Fantastic Four.
hmmm Impossible Man?
The Mad Thinker?
Neither of those were involved, and I don't believe either of them had ever died.
Terrax
Terrax is the correct fourth answer! His body was destroyed, but his mind merged with the ground beneath him and he was accidentally re-awakened by some sort of machine a few years later (beginning of the New Warriors series).

Yours next, IB!
wow, that was a completely random guess! all I knew was Terrax was an F4 villain, and just guessed that he had died some time

okay...

which fellow Outsider was Windfall interested in?
Geo force?
Nope
Halo?
Alas no, no hints of homosexuality or bisexuality there.
Lightning?
nope


which fellow Outsider was Windfall interested in?

Not:

Geo-Force
Halo
Black Lightning
oh... this might be one of those later groupings...

But I'll round off the first one with Metamorpho.
Not Metamorpho!

This was a bit later on, definitely, but maybe not as late as you think
I remember she sort of joined the team at one point, but that was from a Who's Who entry...

Faust?
Nope
Oh, heck... I'm trying to remember who else was on the team...

Someone with armour and someone who looked like the Tasmanian Devil. ..

Arsenal?
You described the guy, but it wasn’t Arsenal. and thank goodness, Roy’s ego is big enough already
Still trying to think of the armour guy's name, or the Tas look-a-like...
which fellow Outsider was Windfall interested in?

Not:

Geo-Force
Halo
Black Lightning
Arsenal
Faust
Metamorpho

poor thothy. there are two armor guys, by the way.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/01/18 11:12 PM
Atomic Knight.
Blacula has it. And Atomic Knight returned her interest, too.I found it quite cute. Not sure how old the Knight was though. Windfall seemed to be in her late teens.

Sigh, Windfall is definitely my favorite Outsider too, and look what happened to her. Kind of like with Kole...
I was reading an article with some quotes from Barbara Kesel on the death of Dove in Armageddon 2001. At first she thought both Hawk and Dove would become Monarch. She felt if it was both then Monarch would be unstable. But she was disapointed when she learned "they were just playing another round of 'kill the girl'"

I just looked up Windfall. I'll need to check on the creative team so I can avoid them like the plague. I forgot all about The Atomic Knight being in there. That seemed like a strange one, but I wasn't reading the book.
Poor Windfall. She had such potential; being the youngest of the Outsiders, she contributed a lot of brilliant and practical insights on the few cases she was in. Alas. Another character ruined.

Re Dove, good point. Poor Dawn was killed so Hank could get his sinister motivation. Ugh.
I quite liked what I saw of that version of Dove. That was before I read the original Hawk & Dove that quickly missed the point of the brothers' ideological differences.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/03/18 05:33 PM
John Ostrander killed off Windfall (and a handful of other interesting characters) in Suicide Squad: Raise the Flag. I liked that series but those predictable deaths were definitely the weakest part of it.

Re: Dove. I've always liked her and hate to see interesting female characters get killed off to fuel a male character's story... but I think I might be the only person who didn't mind the events of Armageddon: 2001. The build up (primarily in the Superman books of which I was a big fan at the time) was exciting and the Annuals were for the most part excellent I thought (one of the better uniform Elseworlds storylines IMO). And Hawk's journey to become Monarch just seemed so natural to me, with the death of (another) Dove being that last necessary blow that was required to push him over the edge.

(I also think he works a lot better in the role than Captain Atom would have; and even though everyone criticizes the swap, I think it works to the betterment of the story by creating a clever sense of misdirection for the central mystery. It's actually one of the best mystery stories DC's ever done now that I think about it.)

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Q: What is Abraham Lincoln famous for on Earth 3?
Re Raise the Flag, I agree. I liked the premise and the action, but the deaths were sooooo predictable. Basically, everyone who wasn't a Squad mainstay died. Windfall and Sister Twister are the ones I regret the most.

Abraham Lincoln: for the secession of the Confederate states?
I'd have to agree that Raise the Flag wasn't the best. It was a shadow of his earlier Squad run, and body count was for effect, rather than having a story impact as some earlier ones had been. I picked up the Arm 2001 crossovers that I would have been getting anyway. But there are any number of better time travel stories around in other media.

Abe - Did he kill President Booth?
Re Armageddon 2001, Hawk as Monarch made sense. I'm just sorry Dove had to be sacrificed for that. I do agree that the switch from Captain Atom to Hawk was handled well and realistically.

And I also loved the many glimpses of the future we saw in the various annuals.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/03/18 07:35 PM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Abe - Did he kill President Booth?


Yes he did!

If I was an editor at DC I would have greenlit an Earth 3 ongoing book years ago. I would have loved to read the continuing adventures of heroic versions of normally villainous characters in a sort of twisted/backward universe.
Lincoln killing Booth, should have thought of that! Such a perfect reversal!
Invisible Brainiac:

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Re Armageddon 2001, Hawk as Monarch made sense


No it didn't. Of all the A:2001 Annuals, the Hawk and Dove one was the ONLY one where the titular heroes and Monarch are actually seen together!

It was supposed to be Captain Atom, but everyone figured it out before the event even started, so they decided to throw a curveball. But Hawk was both a bad story idea and a dumb character choice. Better they stuck to their guns and just make it a good story rather than a surprise. If they really felt they had to throw a curveball, I think Guy Gardner would have been a decent option.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Invisible Brainiac:

Quote
Re Armageddon 2001, Hawk as Monarch made sense


No it didn't. Of all the A:2001 Annuals, the Hawk and Dove one was the ONLY one where the titular heroes and Monarch are actually seen together!


Don't remember that.

Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller


It was supposed to be Captain Atom, but everyone figured it out before the event even started, so they decided to throw a curveball. But Hawk was both a bad story idea and a dumb character choice. Better they stuck to their guns and just make it a good story rather than a surprise. If they really felt they had to throw a curveball, I think Guy Gardner would have been a decent option.


Yes, I know about the curveball. Always felt that Hawk's personality would make him a decent choice for Monarch.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/04/18 01:08 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Invisible Brainiac:

Quote
Re Armageddon 2001, Hawk as Monarch made sense


No it didn't. Of all the A:2001 Annuals, the Hawk and Dove one was the ONLY one where the titular heroes and Monarch are actually seen together!

It was supposed to be Captain Atom, but everyone figured it out before the event even started, so they decided to throw a curveball. But Hawk was both a bad story idea and a dumb character choice. Better they stuck to their guns and just make it a good story rather than a surprise. If they really felt they had to throw a curveball, I think Guy Gardner would have been a decent option.


I agree with IB's prior agreement with me. smile (We are like this topic's version of an ouroboros!)

I don't remember the Hawk & Dove Annual well enough to comment on the discrepancy of having both Hawk and Monarch appear on-panel, but why does that have to be a deal-breaker anyway? Body doubles (robots/clones/twins/etc.) go back to almost the beginning of comics and Monarch was explicitly shown using duplicates of characters (e.g. Kole) in the New Titans Annual with the Team Titans anyway.

As for it being a bad story idea, well that's just personal opinion of course but I'd be interested in hearing some reasons why. The only reasons I ever hear on message boards are the same two about the two characters appearing on panel and Captain Atom being the first choice. The first one doesn't carry any weight with me for the reason I just out-lined and the second one has always struck me more as some fans having sour grapes about being tricked by the writers. Many other works of fiction have also been altered late in the process and sometimes for the better.

It's interesting you bring up Guy Gardner as a more preferable substitute for Captain Atom than Hawk. Now that I think about it, I agree with you. For three reasons: 1) it would have diminished the only-getting-worse problem of having too many Earth-based Green Lanterns; 2) because the writers haven't really known what to do with Guy since his JLI hey-days anyway; and 3) it wouldn't have benched a unique and interesting DC concept like that of 'Hawk and Dove' for something like two decades. But those are all meta/real-world reasons. From a story/character point of view, I don't know why he would have made a much better choice than Hawk. They were both very similar in temperament and outlook and both were influenced by the tragic events of their pasts at the time. It seems to me like anyone who had a story/character-based reason for disliking the Hawk reveal would feel the same way about a Guy Gardner reveal.
Blacula:

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From a story/character point of view, I don't know why he would have made a much better choice than Hawk. They were both very similar in temperament and outlook and both were influenced by the tragic events of their pasts at the time. It seems to me like anyone who had a story/character-based reason for disliking the Hawk reveal would feel the same way about a Guy Gardner reveal.


I'll tell you why I think it would have worked better:

1) They wouldn't have needed to kill off Dove (or Ice) to make it happen - Guy isn't that much tied to a partner.
2) Guy did not, in fact, appear on-panel with Monarch like Hawk did. Yes, it can be explained away, but why should that be necessary?
3) Guy always had an inferiority complex with relation to other heroes (especially Hal Jordan and Batman), and a self-centered, somewhat twisted world-view. I could see this translating into becoming a tyrant and villain...much more so that Hawk's generalized hyper-aggressiveness.
4) Hawk was an avatar of Chaos - becoming a leader of a very orderly society made no sense. Guy was authoritarian by nature.

As far as the "meta-reasons" go, the hints that Monarch was going to be Captain Atom were that his solo series was ending just then, and that JLE was the final Annual in the crossover. When they pulled the switch, they used another hero whose series was just ending, i.e., Hawk. But Guy had no series of his own, he shared Green Lantern, so no need to cancel a series right before the conclusion of the crossover. It would have fit in perfectly fine.
hm, good reasoning for Guy Gardner there.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/04/18 11:26 PM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Blacula:

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From a story/character point of view, I don't know why he would have made a much better choice than Hawk. They were both very similar in temperament and outlook and both were influenced by the tragic events of their pasts at the time. It seems to me like anyone who had a story/character-based reason for disliking the Hawk reveal would feel the same way about a Guy Gardner reveal.


I'll tell you why I think it would have worked better:

4) Hawk was an avatar of Chaos - becoming a leader of a very orderly society made no sense. Guy was authoritarian by nature.


I think this is the strongest "in-story" reason for why Guy should have been Monarch instead of Hank. I guess the reason they didn't is because Guy was active in more titles than Hank back then. He had both Justice League and Green Lantern (which was something of an ensemble book during that period) and I think it wasn't long after this that he got his own series. So DC probably thought he had more life in him than Hank at that point. I think they made the wrong decision as between these two characters but I still don't think the story was ruined because they used Hank.
Who transferred from Earth Prime to Earth 2 and defeated the Justice Society?
Johnny Thunder ?
It was not Johnny Thunder
Superboy-Prime?
Not Prime. This would be earlier than his first appearance.
Aquarius?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/08/18 12:48 AM
Elliot S. Maggin?
Blacula is super, super close....not Maggin but...
I remember that story now, but can’t remember the other guy...
Actually, this question does double as a Legiony question..
Cary Bates?

(I kept thinking Cary Grant for some reason)
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/08/18 07:13 PM
I can't remember the other guy either!

I think IB might have it but if not, Gerry Conway?
It was Cary Bates! I find the Earth Prime comics to be among the dullest of the Jlas. Over to you Ibby
!
Ah, I remember that story. For the love of cuckamonga. That one panel where Elliot S! Maggin (why the exclamation point, I don't know) and Green Arrow had the exact same line...

... and then we see Cary Bates in spandex. And I remember thinking he's surprisingly buff for a comic book writer. So super powers grant a super physique too?

And this is me stalling while thinking of a question...

Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.

What two countries were they from?
UK and USA?
nope
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/09/18 03:33 PM
I collected all of JLE but have no memory of this story whatsoever.

Germany and Holland?
It wasn't in the JLE series, it was in one of those 80-page giants that came out after the fact.

Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.

What two countries were they from?

Not:

UK
USA
Germany
Holland / Netherlands
Italy and Spain
Nope.

Hint: neither country was in Europe

Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.

What two countries were they from?

Not:

UK
USA
Germany
Holland / Netherlands
Italy
Spain
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/09/18 11:44 PM
Canada & Mexico?
nope. one of the correct answers shares a continent with your guesses though
Guatemala and Morocco
Guatemala was one of them!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/15/18 03:55 AM
Guatemala and China?
not China, but China is very close geographically to the second country
Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.

What two countries were they from?

Neither was in Europe
Only one was in North America
China is geographically close to the second country


From:

Guatemala
??

Not:

UK
USA
Germany
Holland / Netherlands
Italy
Spain
Canada
Mexico
Morocco
China
Guatemala and Vietnam?
not Vietnam
Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.

What two countries were they from?

Neither was in Europe
Only one was in North America
China is geographically close to the second country


From:

Guatemala
??

Not:

UK
USA
Germany
Holland / Netherlands
Italy
Spain
Canada
Mexico
Morocco
China
Vietnam
Also, the second country is quite well known.
Guatemala and South Korea?
not South Korea. but geographically close
Guatemala and Japan?
yes, you got it!
In one of the later issues of Starman, Ted Knight re-tells an old JSA adventure against Brain Wave in which most of the JSA were rescued by their girlfriends, dressed in their costumes. Ted declares that reports of female versions of two JSA members were not true. Who were these JSAers who, according to Ted, did not have women dress as them?
Hmmm... thinks of which JSAers would be least likely to have girlfriends, or to have girlfriends willing to dress as them...

Johnny Thunder
Wildcat
The Spectre
Johnny Thunder
Both the Spectre and Johnny Thunder had female counterparts in the story, and Wildcat was not yet a member at the time.

(Johnny's was not a girlfriend, but his adopted daughter Peachy Pet.)
Hmmm

Al Pratt
Mister Terrific
Al Pratt is one of the two, Mister Terrific was not yet a member at the time.
Doctor Fate?
Nope, Inza was one of the rescuers.
Yeah, I figured Inza would have been there...

Hourman?
Hourman at this point in time was not a member - he was replaced by Starman, who is obviously involved.
Dr. Mid-Nite
Batman?
Ibby's got it. "There were reports of a female Atom and Dr. Mid-Nite...fiction."
I thought The Atom did have a GA girlfriend and we know that Doc definitely had a bird. smile
But the bird couldn't have fit into a human-sized costume tongue
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia?
thoth, they did have those (and Mid-Nite had a secretary/love interest whom he was too shy to actually ask out), but they didn't participate in the adventure against Brain Wave. At least according to Ted Knight in Starman # 69.
I remember that Charles McNider did indeed have a sort-of love interest, but I also remembered the relationship wasn't that strong (and I remembered that she seemed not to know his secret identity, so would be less likely to join in).

It was the Spectre that surprised me, though I seem to also remember that the early Spectre was more human than the later version.
Interestingly, in the original story, neither Dr. Mid-Nite nor the Atom's girlfriends are shown at the beginning of the story when Wonder Woman recruits the girlfriends, but female version of both appear as part of the actual rescue party... hmmm
I guess someone called them in along the way.
Or, as per Ted Knight, it was a chronicler's error.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
thoth, they did have those (and Mid-Nite had a secretary/love interest whom he was too shy to actually ask out), but they didn't participate in the adventure against Brain Wave. At least according to Ted Knight in Starman # 69.


sorry Chaim. I wasn't going to pass up the "bird" joke. smile
Yes, we know you can't help yourself wink
Hopefully, someone else can smile
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/06/18 11:31 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia?


I'm thinking this is during the 'Red Winter' story?

I can't really remember (other than there being a few Global Guardians there) so guessing:

Little Mermaid
Tasmanian Devil
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman
Animal Man
You have Taz correct! (He was so handsome in his non-Taz form. I was thrilled when they revealed he was gay)

And it was during tbe Red Winter storyline

Osiris has not been introduced yet, and Wonder Woman was an active member of the JLA
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/07/18 01:04 AM
I was meaning Osiris from the Overmaster's new Cadre team (although I might have gotten him and the Pharaoh guy mixed up as the same character; and now that I think about it, I meant to say:)

Seneca (also from the Overmaster's Cadre; although this is a longshot guess).

And:

Sue Dibny
Elongated Man
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Ah, thanks for clarifying. Didn't realize there was another Osiris.

Not Seneca either.

Ralph was a full-time member then.

Sue, being a non-powered support staff member, didn't go into the field.

Ice Maiden hadn't been introduced yet either.

Atom and Firestorm were busy doing things then...
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

1) Tasmanian Devil
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Dr Light, if she wasn't already a member
Jay Garrick
Al Pratt
Ted McNider
Fire
Owlwoman
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members

1) Tasmanian Devil
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
wow! I did really well coming up with people who were there, even if none of them were correct answers. smile Was this some sort of in series crossover event? JLA, JSA and Global Guardians at least.

Black Lightning
Mister Miracle
Gypsy
Huntress
guy in armour, was it Lionheart?
girl with energy arrows thing, Maya?
The Red Winter storyline had the Justice Society and the Global Guardians show up, yes.

Thothy, soon you're going to guess the whole cast... wink



Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4)
5)
6)
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Dr Fate
Barda
Black Canary
Aquaman
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5)
6)
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/13/18 12:49 AM
I have a vague memory of this story but I don't remember these reservists being in it at all.

5) Guy Gardner
6) Rocket Red
7) Metamorpho
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Nicely done, only two more to go!

Many of the Reservists had relatively small parts. Only Metamorpho and Taz, and to a certain extent Miracle and one of the unguessed, really had a major impact on the storyline. One of the reservists didn't even have a single line!

You may have, by now, noticed a pattern - each of the Reservists was part of a certain incarnation of the League.

Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5) Metamorpho
6)
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Crumbs, I though Rex would be part of one of the main team.

Blue Jay
Silver Sorceress
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/14/18 10:30 PM
6) Booster Gold
7) Zatanna
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Crumbs, I though Rex would be part of one of the main team.



Nope, he rejoined the main team only after this story
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5) Metamorpho
6) Blue Jay
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time)
Booster Gold
Zatanna (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Yay Blue Jay! I thought about putting him in ages ago... then forgot smile

Lightray?
Story of Bluejay's life... tongue

Not Lightray!

But considering all that you collectively have guessed, it should not be long now wink

Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5) Metamorpho
6) Blue Jay
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time)
Booster Gold
Zatanna (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Lightray
Animal Man?
nope
Captain Marvel?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/15/18 10:53 PM
Green Arrow?
Nope to both

Animal Man and Captain Marvel were closer to the last answer, than Green Arrow

Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5) Metamorpho
6) Blue Jay
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time)
Booster Gold
Zatanna (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Lightray
Animal Man
Captain Marvel
Green Arrow
Captain Atom?
Nope
But (big hint) something about Captain Atom makes him very close to the last character!
Blue Beetle?
Nope.
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
Hint 2: Captain Atom is a very close guess. Captain Marvel and Animal Man are closer guesses than Green Arrow.
Hint 3: this character had held League membership at a time close to all the other correct answers

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5) Metamorpho
6) Blue Jay
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time)
Booster Gold
Zatanna (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Lightray
Animal Man
Captain Marvel
Green Arrow
Captain Atom
Blue Beetle
The Creeper?
nope
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/16/18 11:08 PM
Major Force?
nope

Creeper and Major Force are going further away

Remember, the last correct answer is also a former League member!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/17/18 09:21 PM
Judging by the clues I think this must be an early JLI/JLE character, but I can't think of any who fit.

Martian Manhunter?
nope

this character was a JLI/JLE one, but joined much later than most

Captain Atom is a close answer for a reason other than joining order
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/18/18 05:49 PM
Agent Liberty?
nope. but you hit on the reason why Captain Atom is a close answer. Agent Liberty is a close answer for the same reason

by the way, Agent Liberty was also there. but like others guessed - such as Fire - he was there as a reinforcement from the American branch, not as one of the Reserves originally called in to help
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
Hint 2: Captain Atom and Agent Liberty are very close guesses because of something they have in common with this character. Captain Marvel and Animal Man are closer guesses than Green Arrow.
Hint 3: this character had held League membership at a time close to all the other correct answers; this character was a member during the JLI/JLE days
Hint 4: this character is male

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5) Metamorpho
6) Blue Jay
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time)
Booster Gold (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Zatanna Lightray
Animal Man
Captain Marvel
Green Arrow
Captain Atom
Blue Beetle
Martian Manhunter
Creeper
Major Force
Agent Liberty (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/18/18 10:59 PM
Aghhh! This is killing me. Haha

The Ray?
nope, you need to look earlier than that.
Power Girl?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/19/18 12:59 AM
The Flash (Wally West)?
nope, you need to look later than when JLE was originally formed. and both of them were present during that story as members of JLE
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
Hint 2: Captain Atom and Agent Liberty are very close guesses because of something they have in common with this character. Captain Marvel and Animal Man are closer guesses than Green Arrow.
Hint 3: this character had held League membership at a time close to all the other correct answers; this character was a member during the JLI/JLE days, but joined after the JLE's formation yet before the Ray joined the JLA
Hint 4: this character is male

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5) Metamorpho
6) Blue Jay
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story as a Global Guardian)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story as a JLE associate and Sonar's "captive")
Elongated Man (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story as a JSA member)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story as a JSA member)
Charles McNider (who was present in that story as a JSA member)
Ted Grant (who was present in that story as a JSA member)
Fire (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story as a Global Guardian)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story as a new JLE ally, joining after)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Guy Gardner (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
Rocket Red (who was present in that story as a Rocket Red)
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time)
Booster Gold (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
Zatanna
Lightray
Animal Man
Captain Marvel
Green Arrow
Captain Atom
Blue Beetle
Martian Manhunter
Creeper
Major Force
Agent Liberty (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
The Ray
Flash (Wally West) (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Power Girl (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/19/18 03:53 PM
We should keep this round going until we’ve named every character who was in the story. wink

...

Ohhhhh. I think I might know who it is. But I’m blanking on the name. Thinking. Thinking. ... Ack! I can’t remember his name!

So I’m going to try to keep filling in the other characters present until I do.

Ice?
Not Ice!

Originally Posted by Blacula
We should keep this round going until we’ve named every character who was in the story. wink


At the rate we're going, we are.... I think we're only halfway to doing that tongue Godiva and Owlwoman's teammates, for example. And there is one more JSA member not named. And one or two people who were with the JLA... wink plus a couple of full time JLE-ers...
That ghost knight whose name slips my mind at the moment?
Sir what-his-name? Nope, not him.

I just googled, and his name was Duke Donald.
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?

Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
Hint 2: Captain Atom and Agent Liberty are very close guesses because of something they have in common with this character. Captain Marvel and Animal Man are closer guesses than Green Arrow.
Hint 3: this character had held League membership at a time close to all the other correct answers; this character was a member during the JLI/JLE days, but joined after the JLE's formation yet before the Ray joined the JLA
Hint 4: this character is male

1) Tasmanian Devil
2) Mister Miracle
3) Huntress
4) Black Canary
5) Metamorpho
6) Blue Jay
7)

Not:

Little Mermaid (who was present in that story as a Global Guardian)
Osiris
Golden Pharaoh
Beefeater
Wonder Woman (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
Animal Man
Seneca
Sue Dibny (who was present in that story as a JLE associate and Sonar's "captive")
Elongated Man (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Ice Maiden
Atom
Firestorm
Doctor Light (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Jay Garrick (who was present in that story as a JSA member)
Al Pratt (who was present in that story as a JSA member)
Charles McNider (who was present in that story as a JSA member)
Ted Grant (who was present in that story as a JSA member)
Fire (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
Owlwoman (who was present in that story as a Global Guardian)
Black Lightning
Gypsy
Lionheart
Maya (who was present in that story as a new JLE ally, joining after)
Doctor Fate
Big Barda
Aquaman (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Guy Gardner (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
Rocket Red (who was present in that story as a Rocket Red)
Vixen
Batman
Superman
Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time)
Booster Gold (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
Zatanna
Lightray
Animal Man
Captain Marvel
Green Arrow
Captain Atom
Blue Beetle
Martian Manhunter
Creeper
Major Force
Agent Liberty (who was present in that story as a JLA member)
The Ray
Flash (Wally West) (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Power Girl (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
Ice
Duke Donald (the ghost knight in the JLE castle)
General Glory?
you got it! it was General Glory - pretty much the only one among the 7 reserves to not even get a single line. he was also the first to get knocked out when Crimson Fox and the reserves faced the Rocket Reds the first time
This story featured a lot of characters, so let's do a list (because I love lists):

Justice League Europe members:

Aquaman (would leave after the story)
Crimson Fox (Vivian was in the field, though Constance also appeared)
Doctor Light (Kimiyo)
Elongated Man
Flash (Wally)
Green Lantern (Hal)
Power Girl

Justice League Europe associates:

Sue Dibny (in her role as support; the villain Sonar also tried to woo her by threatening Elongated Man)
Maya (would join the JLE at the end of the story, as its mandate expanded to become the JLI)
Duke Donald (the ghost in the JLE castle)

Justice League reserves: (called in because JLA was unavailable then, due to Doomsday and Superman's death)

Metamorpho (would join the JLE at the end of the story, as its mandate expanded to become the JLI)
Tasmanian Devil (would join the JLE at the end of the story, as its mandate expanded to become the JLI)
Black Canary
Huntress
Blue Jay
General Glory
Mister Miracle

Justice League America members:

Fire
Maxima
Wonder Woman
Booster Gold
Guy Gardner
Bloodwynd
Agent Liberty

Note: Doomsday explains why Ice and Blue Beetle were absent, but there is a slight continuity error. Fire was depowered and Booster Gold's equipment was destroyed by Doomsday, so they should have been absent. Maxima was also wearing her old question. Ray and Black Condor were absent too, though if I remember right they should have showed up at about the same time as Wonder Woman and Agent Liberty. Condor and Liberty were only around for like 5 issues of the JLA run anyway...

Justice Society of America:

Green Lantern (Alan Scott)
Flash (Jay Garrick)
Atom (Al Pratt)
Wildcat (Ted Grant)
Doctor Mid-nite (Charles McNider)

Global Guardians:

I'm not going to name each of them, but Ice Maiden (Sigrid) had not yet been introduced; and Little Mermaid showed up alive, claiming she was the good twin of the Mermaid who died earlier.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/19/18 06:20 PM
General Glory! That’s who I was thinking of! I had totally forgotten that character until this question.
I think you had an idea of who he was, but just forgot his code name.
Who are the parents of Windshear?
I know who Windshear is, but have no clue as to parentage
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/23/18 09:51 PM
Bulletman and Bulletgirl?
Wolverine and Sasquatch?
Blacula has it!
wait, what? cool!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/24/18 02:38 AM
I think she was introduced in The Power of Shazam! wasn’t she?



Q: Which character was a Boy Commandos villain in the Golden Age, a Robin (sans Batman) villain in the Silver Age, and then a Batman villain in the Bronze Age?
She was indeed. Although I should add that just now, when I looked up Wikipedia to confirm before answering, I discovered that there was also an Alpha Flight member by that name, maybe that's who Ibby was thinking of/thought I was referring to. I'd never heard of that character.

For your question...Bruno Mannheim?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/24/18 05:08 AM
I’ve never read The Power of Shazam! so I’m not even sure how I knew that answer. Haha I really liked Grant Morrison’s Bulleteer though so I might have learned it while reading up about her.



Not Bruno.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
She was indeed. Although I should add that just now, when I looked up Wikipedia to confirm before answering, I discovered that there was also an Alpha Flight member by that name, maybe that's who Ibby was thinking of/thought I was referring to. I'd never heard of that character.



Yeah, I was thinking of the Alpha Flight character. That's probably whom thoth was thinking of too, with his guessof Wolverine and Sasquatch.

It was only after Blacula got the correct answer, that I realized there must be another Windshear. Sadly, when I tried doing a search, it was the Alpha Flight Windshear who kept popping up.
Originally Posted by Blacula


Q: Which character was a Boy Commandos villain in the Golden Age, a Robin (sans Batman) villain in the Silver Age, and then a Batman villain in the Bronze Age?


...Maxie Zeus?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/24/18 03:05 PM
I’d never heard of the Marvel Windshear either CMK.

Not Maxie Zeus.
Wizard?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/26/18 01:43 AM
Q: Which character was a Boy Commandos villain in the Golden Age, a Robin (sans Batman) villain in the Silver Age, and then a Batman (and Robin) villain in the Bronze Age?

NOT: Bruno Mannheim, Maxie Zeus, The Wizard.
Clayface?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/26/18 06:06 PM
Nope. But you are correct in assuming that this is not one of Batman's A (or even B) list villains.

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Q: Which character was a Boy Commandos villain in the Golden Age, a Robin (sans Batman) villain in the Silver Age, and then a Batman (and Robin) villain in the Bronze Age?

NOT: Bruno Mannheim, Maxie Zeus, The Wizard, Clayface.
Crazy Quilt?

I was thinking of the Alpha Flight member (or Alphan as I'm sure they referred to each other earnestly during plot dumps.) Excellent guess Blacula and Question Chaim.
I would have thought Clayface would be a B-list villain at least smile

Catman?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/26/18 07:17 PM
Egyptian God Lad has it! It was that perennial background-in-a-group-shot villain himself, Crazy Quilt!

I'm intrigued by the journeys some character's take over the course of their publication history.
Ahhhh. Crazy Quilt has a good look though!
Originally Posted by Blacula
Egyptian God Lad has it! ...


That's Set you're thinking of smile

Assist to Teeds who had the Boy Commandoes vs Crazy Quilt in a recent cover thread.

New Q at the weekend.
The members of what would be a post-government Alpha Flight got a signal that would lead to them combatting the mighty Tundra. All except one member made it to the battle. Who didn't and why not?
Snowbird, because... she was Tundra?
Nope. That might have been a later plot. If it wasn't it should have been.
Talisman, because she was in a snit and wanted to swoop in and save the day?
This would have been before Talisman.
Drat. My knowledge of Marvel history, or lack of it, is hurting me here tongue

Sasquatch, who was enthralled by Tundra?
Puck, because he simply couldn't get transportation fast enough?
It was not Sasquatch who received the call.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/29/18 08:22 PM
Northstar because he had a date?
It wasn't Northstar
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Puck, because he simply couldn't get transportation fast enough?


I think you missed this guess, thothy


I'll guess Shaman, who had to go deal with something else?
Crumbs! Thanks Ibby! Because Chaim has not only the right answer, but the right reason too!

In an excellent debut issue, the members of Alpha have implants that will pick up alerts (I wonder if they were ever used to track members). So do two members of Beta FLight who were about to be promoted when the project was shelved: Marinna and Puck. While Marinna made her own way to the combat, Puck had to rely on transport. A guard refused him access to a flight, as he didn't recognise Puck form the pictures of Alpha he'd seen.

Over to you Chaim!
yay! now I can be a game show assistant wink

Funny story, Puck missing the battle because he wasn't recognized smile
In one of the annual JLA-JSA crossovers, the Ultra-Humanite formed a new Secret Society of Super-Villains, 10 villains (himself included) who would each capture one member of either the JLA or of the JSA. In most cases, a villain from Earth-1 captured a JLA member and a villain from Earth-2 captured a JSA member. Which villain was the exception to this, and which hero did he or she capture?
It sounds like a cool story!
It was a great story, and it had George Perez art, to boot!
Great art and story.

Tricksy question smile The hero is Black Canary, because it would be revealed that she's the daughter of the original?

The villain...
Ultra humanite beat E2 Supes, Monocle beat E2 Hawkman, Rag Doll beat E2 Flash, Psycho Pirate beat Hourman. I nearly went with this as it's not the first Psycho Pirate. Someone beat Johnny Thunder. I'm guessing Brainwave. That leaves The Mist as the answer. Hopefully.
Mist and Black Canary are indeed the correct answers! (and your run-down of the JSAers and their villains is spot-on as well!)
And just for the record, the other villains and JLAers were Signalman - Batman (E1), Cheetah - Wonder Woman (E1), Floronic Man - Atom (E1) and Killer Frost - Firestorm.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/30/18 03:20 AM
^ Great story and question! I was about to guess Monocle because I couldn’t remember if it was the E-1 or E-2 Hawkman he fought.
I remember that, quite a nice story for sure!
The JLA and the JSA must rescue the seven Soldiers of Victory from other periods in time! But where did the seven groups go? I'll take time periods, people they met/ fought or pretty much anything that indicates an answer

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
I'll try:

1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era
2. Speedy -- Pre-Historic Caveman Era
3. Star-Spangled Kid -- Revolutionary France
4. Stripesy -- Ancient Greece
5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire
6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Cvilization
7. Vigilante -- Old West
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/04/18 10:38 PM
Good question! This is from a very hazy distant memory:

1. Camelot where they met Merlin I think (Shining Knight?)
2. Old West Indians (Green Arrow?)
3. Dinosaurs era (Crimson Avenger?)
4. Puritan witch-burning early-American era (Star-Spangled Kid?)
5. Attila the Hun (Stripesy?)
6. Robin Hood (Speedy?)
7. French Revolution (Vigilante?)

(P.S. I think you have the next Q in the Star Wars Trivia Thread too TL.)
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/04/18 10:38 PM
ACK! EDE just beat me and his answers suggest that some of my hazy recollections were on the right track!
EDE gets off to a flyer with four correct.

Correct:-
1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era
5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire
6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Cvilization
7. Vigilante -- Old West

Incorrect. But two of them are just mixed up:-
2. Speedy -- Pre-Historic Caveman Era
3. Star-Spangled Kid -- Revolutionary France
4. Stripesy -- Ancient Greece
Blacula gets a lot of the settings, but nothing further than EDE's.
I was pretty certain about GA, CA, and Vigilante.
I remember the story - read it twice - but don’t remember the details! I do rememwbr that only one of the Soldiers retained his memory
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/08/18 09:22 PM
2. Speedy -- Revolutionary France
3. Stripesy -- Pre-Historic Caveman Era
4. Star Spangled Kid -- Ancient Greece

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1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era
5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire
6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Cvilization
7. Vigilante -- Old West
Still the four correct.


1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era
2. Speedy -
3. Stripsey -
4 - Star Spangled Kid -
5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire
6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Civilisation
7. Vigilante -- Old West
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/13/18 05:09 PM
I’m gonna get one right eventually!

2. Speedy -- Ancient Greece
3. Stripesy -- Revolutionary France
4. Star Spangled Kid -- Pre-historic Caveman era
Remember that Perseverance Lad joined as Matter Eater Lad!

I had to write down the answers for this one as I kept forgetting. smile

Speedy is correct. He got turned into a centaur by Circe

Star Spangled Kid first appeared as a distortion on a the wall of a prehistoric cave! That tribe died out, as Spangles had altered them to speak in Roy Thomas captions. They spent all their time talking and none of it hunting.

Two for Blacula!

No one was in revolutionary France, which is just where you'd expect someone to pop up for instant drama. But where else could they have been?!


1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era
2. Speedy - Ancient Greece
3. Stripsey -
4 - Star Spangled Kid - Prehistoric cavepeople
5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire
6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Civilisation
7. Vigilante -- Old West
Stripesy - the American Revolution?

I'm thinking Revolutionary France might have been Saturn Girl, in that Universo story where he tosses five Legionnaires through time!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/13/18 09:51 PM
Stripesy - Colonial Africa?
It isn't The American Revolution, although US comics obviously tend to have a focus on their own history, so it's another good guess.

It isn't Colonial Africa. I'm picturing Batman, Hourman and Starman at Rourke's Drift now, after the recent Wheel quiz. smile

1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era
2. Speedy - Ancient Greece
3. Stripsey -
4 - Star Spangled Kid - Prehistoric cavepeople
5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire
6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Civilisation
7. Vigilante -- Old West
Ancient Egypt?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/13/18 10:16 PM
1920s Gangster era?
1920s gangster era isn't that far removed form the crooks they would beat up in the Golden Age. Stripesy wouldn't want to be taken back to a more complicated world of comics. Come to think of it, none of them wanted to stay where they were.

Despite all of Blacula's valiant efforts on this one, Ibby has guessed the final answer. Stripsey was working away on the one of the pyramids. In between being tortured for the secret of his great strength. "I don't have great strength fellas. I just beat up a lot of gangsters in the 1920s!" he'd shout back.

The scene was also notable for having Starman develop the power to control his energy rod from a distance.


1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era
2. Speedy - Ancient Greece
3. Stripsey - Ancient Egypt
4 - Star Spangled Kid - Prehistoric cavepeople
5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire
6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Civilisation
7. Vigilante -- Old West
Oh yeah, Over to you Ibby!
cool! that was a lucky guess

Wonder Woman once hosted five misguided youths in her apartment. But where were they from originally?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/16/18 05:38 PM
Gorilla City?
They were the original X-Men from the Marvel Universe? Well, they did turn up with their older versions...
Originally Posted by Blacula
Gorilla City?


Blacula has it! I always found it funny and cool, Diana having 5 gorilla house guests (how did she teach them to use the bathroom??). And 3 chose to stay on Themyscira to guard Hippolyta.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
They were the original X-Men from the Marvel Universe? Well, they did turn up with their older versions...


Still not sure how I feel about that. So many cool characters in limbo, but instead we get two versions of each of the original X-Men plus a gazillion clones of Wolverine running about.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/18/18 04:56 PM
Whatever happened to those gorillas?

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OK, question time:

Everyone knows that the 'Justice League of America' first appeared in The Brave and the Bold #28 in 1960, right? WRONG!

A 'Justice League of America' actually first appeared in a DC comic way back in 1942!

Who were the members of this first JLA?
re Gorillas, their good deeds helping Diana were recognized by Gorilla City. they were forgiven for being misled by Grodd, and were welcomed home as heroes

first JLA:

Martian Manhunter
Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Flash
Aquaman
Rex the Wonder Dog
Good Q&A on the gorillas!

All of the Newsboy Legion?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/18/18 11:05 PM
^ None of the characters in IB's guess or TL's, but TL is on the right track.
Sgt. Rock and Easy company?
Law's Legionnaires?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/19/18 03:07 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Law's Legionnaires?


Also known as the Seven Soldiers of Victory.
Also known as... the Justice League of America (in one issue of Leading Comics back in 1942 anyway)!

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Leading_Comics_Vol_1_2

Pretty weird bit of trivia but I guess it was common to recycle names and concepts back then.

Over to you TL.
Wow! That's so weird.

Attached picture BlackStarJLA.PNG
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/19/18 03:41 AM
^ Ooh well found! And I know, right?!
I'm gonna be all shooked and be all like "MIND. BLOWN."

You broke the Internet today!

**suddenly, in a moment of lucidity**

Help me! Help me! I've been brainwashed by all those influencers on social media! They've got me talking like them! No, please, put me out of my misery!
Elsewhere in Leading #2, the Star Spangled Kid tells Stripsey…

"This isn’t an ordinary crime, Pat, and it calls for extraordinary measures. Looks like we’ll have to call a meeting of the Legionnaires."

The writer & editor of Leading Comics #2? One Mort Weisinger, editor of Adventure #247.

Green Arrow makes an appearance in both Leading #2 and Adventure #247.
Gasp, they're taking the Legionnaires name too!
And then there's that scene where the Shining Knight says, "Verily, the brave Star-Spangled Kid and the daring Speedy hath sallied forth like two Teen Titans!"

Okay, maybe I made *that* one up... wink
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
And then there's that scene where the Shining Knight says, "Verily, the brave Star-Spangled Kid and the daring Speedy hath sallied forth like two Teen Titans!"

Okay, maybe I made *that* one up... wink



It's just before the panels where Justin tells the others... "And if our brave comrades doth fall, they shall be avenged." Vigilante adds "...and we shall be the Avengers!"

It's a ridiculously influential issue from the Golden Age... even without our add ons…

For example, Ollie Queen appears as a Laws Legionnaire, who was later overlooked (just) for inclusion in the Justice League which he was also already a member of, as seen here. So he could only stare at the League HQ for a few issues, just like his descendant (or just a time travelling Ollie), has to do as a tour guide outside Legion HQ.




Don't forget when Star-spangled Kid says, "Wait, do we really want to avenge? Shouldn't we defend, as Defenders instead?"

Then there was the time Green Arrow, Speedy and Vigilante were thought dead. And the Crimson Avenger says... "and now we are four. A Fantastic Four!"
A bit that actually is in the comic is that the villain uses Black Light rays, tying him into the Phantom Lady who first appeared the year before. The villain was the Black Star. Later, it was established that
Starman and the Phantom Lady were related. But was the Black Star another member of the Knight family? More importantly, where is the lost Roy Thomas script that details the connection, as I don't believe there isn't one? smile
Gosh! I hope someone posts a question....

D'oh it's me... back soon...
Scarlet Traces is a comic book sequel of which famous novel?
Scarlet Letter?
It is not.
Hmmm Les Miserables?
No although it is a novel from that century though.
*tries to desperately recall high school literature class, and realizes we hardly ever covered this stuff*

Erm.... Frankenstein?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/27/18 12:57 AM
Dracula?
It's slightly more Frankenstein than Dracula in genre and, like them, the novel has also crossed over into other media.
Hunchback of Notre Dame?
Good guesses, but it's more like Frankenstein than the others, as the film versions of Shelley's work have a little bit of sci-fi in them.
Hrm...

Journey to the Center of the Earth?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/27/18 08:03 PM
The War of the Worlds?
Blacula has it. Now I can go and post something in another thread, without giving it away. smile

I'm reading a "sequel" to it by a hard sci-fi writer. He's a pretty good one too. But Scarlet Traces catches the social background to what a country would have been like with a victory, and Martian technology, on its hands so much better. It gets thoth's BIg Thumbs Up for those who haven't read it. They did a straight War of the Worlds interpretation first, and that's always good to get an introduction to Scarlet Traces.

Over to you Blacula!
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/30/18 05:40 PM
OK this is only tangentially comic-related but hey! - it gets difficult coming up with an interesting question for these threads every few days! wink

DC Comics' old series The Witching Hour memorably bore the phrases "It's 12 O'Clock... The Witching Hour" and later "It's Midnight... The Witching Hour" atop each of its covers.

This was a catchy slogan but there was just one problem; 12 o'clock/midnight is NOT (traditionally) 'the witching hour'.

What is and why is it so?
The witching hour is... 3 o'clock? It's when ghosts come out?
It would be 3-4 here too.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/31/18 04:13 AM
You’re both correct in that 3am - 4am is traditionally ‘the witching hour’ but I need more information as to why.
it’s when witches stay awake to talk to ghosts and harness their evil spirits for magic and stuff? like when witches are most active?
State religions had/have set prayer times and The Witching Hour should fall right in the middle of the gap between Go-Sleepy prayers and Up-With-The-Dawn prayers.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/01/18 01:11 AM
<---- is wondering if IB thinks ghosts and witches are real based on the declarative format of his guesses? wink

IB had half of what I was looking for and TL pretty much filled in the rest with his reference to the absence of prayers during this canonical period.

Over to you TL.
Originally Posted by Blacula
<---- is wondering if IB thinks ghosts and witches are real based on the declarative format of his guesses? wink



If you only knew how superstitious people from my country tend to be... wink
All a complete waste, as witches work normal hours just like everybody else. You try reading a font size 4 herbalist book with no natural light or try to find the right bottle by candlelight.
Magic smile
It's not magic if you waste it so much that it becomes commonplace. tongue
As Zatanna found out when her powers were diminished way way back in the Satellite League era...
Since Crisis has just got a thread... and I was desperate for a question...

Who was Hector Hall eying up on the Monitor's satellite?
was this from the original series? because there was a “retcon” series where Vibe was checking Kole out

mmm let’s see. three characters were expositing...

Pariah?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
was this from the original series? because there was a &#147;retcon&#148; series where Vibe was checking Kole out


Ah, thanks for explaining. The checking out was done firmly in the 1980s.

And it wasn't Pariah (and I'll reveal it wasn't The Monitor or Harbinger either)
Fury?
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/02/18 11:59 PM
I can sort of remember the panel and want to guess Swamp Thing but I'm not sure if you mean "eyeing up" in a sexual way... and that would be weird (although I've never read a Swamp Thing comic so maybe plant creatures were presented as desirable beings in them?).

So I'll guess... Starfire?
It was indeed Starfire, and he got a thump to the ribs from Fury as a result.

Over to you Blacula!
I’m going to have to keep an eye out for that during the reread !
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/07/18 12:36 AM
Please name 10 Titans who have used at least three costumed identities.

Please answer in the following format:

0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/07/18 02:54 AM
OMG! Sorry! I thought I was in the Titans Trivia Thread! That Starfire answer threw me!

Ummmm I guess these aren’t Legion characters so it still counts. wink
yeah, that works wink I’ve made similar mistakes before so let’s roll with it!
Originally Posted by Blacula
Please name 10 Titans who have used at least three costumed identities.

Please answer in the following format:

0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman


Rats, Dick was the most obvious answer that come to mind tongue

This is tougher than I thought.

1. Donna Troy: Wonder Girl - Troia - Darkstar - Wonder Woman
2. Roy Harper: Speedy - Arsenal - Red Arrow
3. Mal Duncan: Guardian - Herald - Vox
4. Victor Stone: Cyborg - Cyberion - new golden shapeshifting Cyborg
5. Duela Dent: Joker's Daughter - Penguin's Daughter - Catwoman's Daughter - Scarecrow's Daughter etc.etc. - Harlequin
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/10/18 03:39 AM
0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman
1. Donna Troy: Wonder Girl - Troia - Darkstar - Wonder Woman
2. Roy Harper: Speedy - Arsenal - Red Arrow
3. Mal Duncan: Guardian - Hornblower - Herald - Vox
4. Duela Dent: Joker's Daughter - Catgirl - Scarecrone - Riddler's Daughter - Penguin's Daughter - Harlequin
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

(I don't think Cyborg changed his name when he went through that weird shape-shifting phase so I'm excluding him.)
wow Blacula, you remember all of Duela's disguises? cool!

0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman
1. Donna Troy: Wonder Girl - Troia - Darkstar - Wonder Woman
2. Roy Harper: Speedy - Arsenal - Red Arrow
3. Mal Duncan: Guardian - Hornblower - Herald - Vox
4. Duela Dent: Joker's Daughter - Catgirl - Scarecrone - Riddler's Daughter - Penguin's Daughter - Harlequin
5. Kyle Rayner: Green Lantern - Ion - White Lantern
6. Bart Allen: Impulse - Kid Flash - Flash
7. Jesse Chambers: Jesse Quick - Liberty Belle - Flash (?)
8. Tim Drake: Robin - Red Robin - Batman (in the future?)
9. Gar Logan: Beast Boy - Changeling - Animal Man?
10.
Ah, I see Ibby might have been thinking of the Titans of Tomorrow story too.

5. Bette Kane: Bat Girl - Flamebird - Batwoman (future)
6. Freddy Freeman - Captain Marvel Jr. - CM3 - Captain Marvel (future)
7. Gar Logan - Beast Boy - Changeling - Menagerie (kingdom come)
8. Garth - Aqualad - Tempest - Aquaman (Kingdom Come)
9. Isiah (can't remember surname) - Slagger - Joto - Hotspot
10. Jason Todd - Robin - Red Hood - Red Robin

Great question Blacula.
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/14/18 09:59 PM
0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman
1. Donna Troy: Wonder Girl - Troia - Darkstar - Wonder Woman
2. Roy Harper: Speedy - Arsenal - Red Arrow
3. Mal Duncan: Guardian - Hornblower - Herald - Vox
4. Duela Dent: Joker's Daughter - Catgirl - Scarecrone - Riddler's Daughter - Penguin's Daughter - Harlequin
5. Kyle Rayner: Green Lantern - Ion - White Lantern
6. Bart Allen: Impulse - Kid Flash - Flash
7. Isaiah Crockett: Slagger - Joto - Hotspot
8. Jason Todd: Robin - Red Hood - Red Robin
9.
10.

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To make this question less of a logistical nightmare, I'm just sticking with identities they adopted within the in-continuity (whichever one it was at the time) DC Universe. So no, 'Elseworlds' or possible alternate futures like the 'Titans of Tomorrow' or things like that.

Because, I didn't initially have Duela Dent on my list (for a reason I can't discuss without revealing the answer to the question in the Titans Trivia Thread*), there are three possibilities for the final two spots. Two of those possibilities have actually already been guessed but with incorrect identity names.

* Editor's note: See current issues of Legion World's First Ever Trivia Thread Crossover Crisis for details.
Bette Kane: Bat Girl - Flamebird - Robin
6. Freddy Freeman - Captain Marvel Jr. - CM3 - Shazam
9. Freddy Freeman - Captain Marvel Jr. - CM3 - Shazam.

thinking of another...
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/18/18 01:27 AM
Please name 10 Titans who have used at least three costumed identities.

0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman
1. Donna Troy: Wonder Girl - Troia - Darkstar - Wonder Woman
2. Roy Harper: Speedy - Arsenal - Red Arrow
3. Mal Duncan: Guardian - Hornblower - Herald - Vox
4. Duela Dent: Joker's Daughter - Catgirl - Scarecrone - Riddler's Daughter - Penguin's Daughter - Harlequin
5. Kyle Rayner: Green Lantern - Ion - White Lantern
6. Bart Allen: Impulse - Kid Flash - Flash
7. Isaiah Crockett: Slagger - Joto - Hotspot
8. Jason Todd: Robin - Red Hood - Red Robin
9. Freddy Freeman: Captain Marvel Jr. - CM3 - Shazam
10.

---

1 spot left and 2 possible characters (that I know of) who can fill it.
Bette Kane: Bat-Girl, Flamebird, Hawkfire

really good Q, Blacula! would be interested to know which other heroes you thought of as possible correct answers
Posted By: Blacula Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/20/18 04:39 PM
Yay! Well done IB!

Here's the list (including the unofficial eleventh soldier):

Please name 10 Titans who have used at least three costumed identities.

0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman
1. Donna Troy: Wonder Girl - Troia - Darkstar - Wonder Woman
2. Roy Harper: Speedy - Arsenal - Red Arrow
3. Mal Duncan: Guardian - Hornblower - Herald - Vox
4. Duela Dent: Joker's Daughter - Catgirl - Scarecrone - Riddler's Daughter - Penguin's Daughter - Harlequin
5. Kyle Rayner: Green Lantern - Ion - White Lantern
6. Bart Allen: Impulse - Kid Flash - Flash
7. Isaiah Crockett: Slagger - Joto - Hotspot
8. Jason Todd: Robin - Red Hood - Red Robin
9. Freddy Freeman: Captain Marvel Jr. - CM3 - Shazam
10. Bette Kane: Bat-Girl - Flamebird - Hawkfire
(11. Hank Hall: Hawk - Monarch - Extant)

And now you have all the answers you need for the TITANS TRIVIA THREAD CROSSOVER CRISIS!
yay!!!!!!

Ah I forgot about Hawk because those other identities were villainous!

New Q soon
Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action)
Lightning used to recharge her dad's phone while all thunder could do was smash it?
That could have happened, but no.
Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action - there are 2-3 possible answers)
One of them was studious while the other got into trouble for staying out late?
That's closer to the answer. Studying was related to one of the possible answers.

Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action - there are 2-3 possible answers)

- NOT because Lightning used to recharge her dad's phone while all thunder could do was smash it
- NOT quite because one of them was studious while the other got into trouble for staying out late, BUT studying had a bit to do with one of the possible answers
Dad caught one of them with a boyfriend when she was supposed to be studying, but let's the other off with such things?
no. but you’re right about one daughter being let off
One was let off when using their powers poorly, while the other wasn't?
powers are part of it, yes. but not quite using powers poorly
Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action - there are 2-3 possible answers)

- NOT because Lightning used to recharge her dad's phone while all thunder could do was smash it
- NOT quite because one of them was studious while the other got into trouble for staying out late, BUT studying had a bit to do with one of the possible answers
- One of them was let off for something while another was not , but it was NOT for having a boyfriend or for using powers poorly.
- Powers did have something to do with it
Was that Lightning has powers similar to their father while Thunder's are different in nature?
One of them wanted to use their powers for the common good, while the other wasn't adverse to using them for her own purposes?
That couldn't be farther from the truth, when you consider that Thunder joined the Outsiders and Lightning joined the JSA. Their team affiliations arerelated to this question though
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Was that Lightning has powers similar to their father while Thunder's are different in nature?


Not this either. It wasn't the nature of their powers, but it's more related to using their powers
Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action - there are 2-3 possible answers)

- NOT because Lightning used to recharge her dad's phone while all thunder could do was smash it
- NOT quite because one of them was studious while the other got into trouble for staying out late, BUT studying had a bit to do with one of the possible answers
- One of them was let off for something while another was not , but it was NOT for having a boyfriend or for using powers poorly.
- Powers did have something to do with it
- but NOT because Lightning's powers were more similar to their father's
- and NOT because one wanted to use her powers for good while the other wanted to have personal gain
- BUT their team affiliations (Thunder with Outsiders, Lightning with JSA) is related to one of the answers
Was it that he was more accepting of Lightning becoming a super-hero than Thunder?
YES! he made Thunder get a college degree first, but let Lightning join the JSA as a hero in training before she graduated. Thunder was understandably pissed

also, when Black Lightning got involved with the Outsiders again he became a fugitive. Thunder helped him, but Lightning brought the JSA to being him in. Black Lightning tries to reason with Lightning, saying he knows she will listen to him. In a perfectly understandable move, Thunder goes, “I’m the one helping you and she’s trying to arrest you, but SHE’S the reasonable daughter????”

for someone so smart, Black Lightning can be so dumb!
Yay! I figured that would connect to Lightning joining the JSA as well!
Early All-Star Squadron Villain The Feathered Serpent claimed his origin involved making a discovery that others had failed to make. Which fictional character (not a DC Comics Character) did he cite as having attempted but failed to make the discovery, thus implying that this character is real on Earth-2?
hmmmmmmmmmmm thinking of famous fictional scientists...

Dr. Jekyll?
Not Dr. Jekyll (nor Mr. Hyde).
Captain Nemo?
Allan Quartermain?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Captain Nemo?

Originally Posted by thoth lad
Allan Quartermain?


Neither of those characters.
Professor Challenger?
No.

Hint: It's not a character who is in the public domain.
Hrrrm. That's going to make it more difficult to guess for me.
hmmmm Artemis Fowl?
Nope. Not quite that recent.
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
No.

Hint: It's not a character who is in the public domain.


There goes my next guess... smile

thinking...
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm this is tough. Uh... Dr. Doolittle?
Nope!
Dr. Evil?
Not Dr. Evil.

Hint: J. L. Stephens is mentioned as another who searched for but failed to find the thing in question.
doesn’t really ring a bell...

Montezuma?
Isn't Montezuma a real person?

Anyway, no.
Yeah, I realized that now. In my defense I was in bed when guessing him smile

Dr. Moriarty?
Not Moriarty.

Hint: It is important when All-Star Squadron was published, and when it was set.
Published early 80s. Set early 40s. Could it be Indiana Jones?
Unfortunately, we never got to see the fabulous adventure of Indiana Jones and the Lost Pyramid of Kukulkan, as Indy apparently searched for the pyramid but never found it.

The man who became The Feathered Serpent, however, did discover it, and found the sacred vestments that gave him his powers.

Of course, a key point of his origin is called into question later in the story, so it could all be bunk, but the namedrop of Indiana Jones definitely seems to suggest that there's a real person of that name on Earth-2.

Over to you, thoth.
I'd have liked a GA Hawkman series with its roots in the pulps.
ah, cool. nice question, EDE, and good guessing thoth. I figured it would be along these lines, but was too lazy to search for whether certain characters were public domain or not.
I was mostly trying to steer you towards newer characters with the "public domain" clue.

It's kind of weird to see him referenced as an in-universe character at the height of his popularity, though. It be a bit like if, a few years back, Zatanna had casually mentioned that she just got back from hanging out with Harry Potter or something.
I'm so used to thinking of Roy Thomas looking into the past of things, that I didn't think of him just nipping out to the cinema for something new. smile
re public domain, I did figure it would be a newer character. Hence my Dr. Evil guess.
Which film did Mekanique originally come from?
War of the Worlds?
Nope. Keep going along these lines.
Time Machine?
Nope, but it is something with sci fi elements.
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea?
Nope. You might want to think about what Mekanique is.
I, Robot?
Nope although she is kinda, sorta a robot though. There's a Star Wars link if that helps.
uh....

A New Hope?
Metropolis
EDE has it. Mekanique was taken directly from the end of Metropolis.
What character has both "Ladd" and "Wellington" as middle names?
uhhhhh Gar Logan?
It is not Gar Logan.
Tim Drake?
Nope.
Bart Allen?
Alan Scott?
It is Alan Ladd Wellington Scott.

The Wellington name was revealed in a Golden Age story in which he fought "a modern Napoleon", and Ladd is a more recent addition, acknowledging his connection to Alan Ladd.
Yay! The Alan Ladd connection was the one I made. I didn't know about the Napoleon one, so thanks for that EDE.

I was wondering why everyone was guessing Titans, so I paused before guessing that.

Speaking of Titans, which other team did the Indigo android attack before it got to fight the Titans and Young Justice?
Outsiders?
Not the Ourtsiders
Supermen of America
Not them either
Doom Patrol
Nope although they do have a connection with the answer.
The Doom Patrol? hmm they usually seem pretty isolated...

I’m thinking Robotman might be a common link...

All-Star Squadron?
Robotman is the link. But not to the All Star Squadron.
hmmmm Metal Men?
Yay! Indigo took over/ attacked teh Metal Men prior to going after the Titans.
glad I made the connection between robots tongue I remember Indigo as the villain of the piece.

Lilith’s death was a waste. She’s a teleporter too...

new Q soon
Which Green Lantern Corps member ended up joining the Darkstars after murdering a prisoner?
Yeah, too many Green Lanterns for guessing to be productive...
un pequeno bump
John Stewart?
nope
Which Green Lantern Corps member ended up joining the Darkstars after murdering a prisoner?


Not; John Stewart
Hal Jordan?
Also nope.

This was not one of the Earth GLs
The Green Man?
Tomar Re?
Myg has it! It was in the recent GL series, I can't quite remember when but it was after Flashpoint.

Tomar-Re killed a Xudarian Sinestro Corps member who had already surrendered.
In the bowels of DC offices ( the bowels being biologically close to the quality of their output)…

Bendis: Tomar Re has gone bad!
DiDio: Great! We can build an event around that. I'd have built an event around him being mildly indifferent to semi skimmed milk, but this is even better!
Bendis: But we need to give him a villainous name! Remember Hal became Parallax?
DiDio:Uh-huh…
Bendis: And Tomar Re has a fin on his head?
DiDio: Yup
Bendis: Enter... Paraffin!
DiDio: It'll be a blazing success! Make it 4 issues... wait...you'll want to exploit a different looking talking head Bendis... Make it 8 issues!
I totally guessed. Ok... new Q up soonish
Paraffin lol

Good guessing, Myg. Tomar Re hasn't been that prominent for a while, so his new arc was... both a treat and a bit of a downer.
Didn't Tomar Re die in the Crisis on Infinite Earths?
Yeah I thought he did too
Oops, my bad... it wasn't Tomar-Re, but his son Tomar-Tu!

Um... I'll still give it to Myg considering it was my mistake.

Sorry CMK, I saw that you guessed Green Man too.
Tomar Tu! Well in all fairness, the family resemblance is uncanny
He has his father's fin, but his mother's beak. smile
And his father's ring.... I think.
Here's the new question:
Checkmate's "rule of 2" was broken twice. Who are the two people who did this?
Fire and Amanda Waller?
Taleb Beni Khalid and Mr. Terrific?
Amanda Waller is one...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/03/19 03:01 AM
Maxwell Lord? (and Amanda Waller)
Not Maxwell Lord. He was the reason the UN put in the "rule of 2"
Alan Scott?
Amanda Waller and Sasha Bordeaux?
It was neither Alan Scott nor Sasha Bordeaux - the UN is very aware of their meta talents
I thought it could have been before Sasha became a meta. Hmm...

I can't for the life of me remember who else was in Checkmate at that time period... Can't be Fire, who is also a meta...

Uh... Catherine Cobert? A woefully underused character who should be revived IMO
Not Catherine Cobert!

This character was revealed to know Detective Chimp
Harvey Bullock?
... the Detective Chimp clue doesn't help me, hmmmm

Angel O'Day?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/05/19 03:05 AM
General Sam Lane?
None of those three...

Ummm this character surprised Fire with her abilities
She was not normally in the field as she served as Bishop
It was not clear if her Queen knew of her abilities
Valentina Vostok gaining powes again?
Oh, i thought we were looking for someone who served as Queen, because Amanda Waller was the one who violated the rule. So I thought this would be two characters serving in opposite positions (i.e. two Queens).

I still can't remember who else was in Checkmate around that time though...
With the odd exception around the time of some poorly written event I'm a v1 Checkmate person.
Sigh

This Bishop's Queen was never revealed to know her secret

Should I just give this Q up?
No hints that would make it blindingly obvious? And then maybe another one just to be on the safe side?
J'onn Jonzz in disguise?
Wonder Woman in her new civilian identity?
Nope it's a character that was created just for Checkmate and I haven't seen her outside of that.
So I'm thinking I'm the only one who actually read the series

Sigh
Thoth guessed the first person - Amanda Waller - so it's over to Thoth!

The other person was Jess Midnight - whose magic was revealed when she was shot by Deadshot
Yay! Half the work, all the reward. smile

Jess Midnight is new to me.

New Q when i get near my funny books.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/14/19 04:00 AM
Bump Thoth your turn here too.
The New Mutants have been thrust into the future where the Sentinels have taken over North America. The events in Days of Future Past have been played out, but three characters from the New Mutants have formed a resistance. Which three are they?
Moonstar
Cypher
Cannonball
Moonstar and Cannonball are two.
Karma?
Sunspot?
Not Karma or Sunspot. It's not one of the core members of team
Warlock?
Even less a core character than that.
Skids?
This character appeared a little earlier than Skids (I think)
Gosamyr?
I think I remember this story - was it Katie Power?
Rusty Collins?
Before Gosamyr (I think) and before Rusty Collins (although like Skids it might not have been by much)

Chaim is very close. Katie Power appeared in the story either before or after this one. While the characters in this question are fighting against Sentinel oppression, Katie appeared in the story where mutants had won and it wasn't very pleasant either.
Oh right! I remember the Katie Power story ...

Hmmm

How about Kitty Pryde?
Not Kitty Pryde. It is someone with a strong connection to one of the core team members.
Leong Manh?
Empath?
Colossus?
None of those guesses. The character wasn't a Hellion or a X-Man at least until the mid 90s and possibly never.
Selene?
Dagger?
Not Selene or Dagger. The answer is not a villain (well, not really a villain, really) and is closer to the team than Dagger.
Emma Frost?
It's not Emma Frost. This person was not part of the Hellfire Club (that I'm aware of)
Magneto?
Not Magneto. This character was a romantic interest to one of the cast.
Ah...Lila Cheney.
I have a feeling that CMK is correct!

But just in case, I will guess Boom-Boom.
Chaim is indeed correct. Lila enables a teleporters railroad to be set up, taking mutants away from Earth and to safety from the Sentinels.

I had seen scenes from this story many years before I read it, as we played the Sentinel based Nightmares of Future Past RPG. Moonstar had her Valkyrie look, and the pic in the RPG module was too dark to make her out.

Over to you Chaim!
In the New 52 iteration of Dial H for Hero, which regular DCU hero did a dialer once turn into?
Plastic Man?
Batman!
Robby Reed turned into Plastic Man once pre-Crisis, but that was not the New 52 iteration, as I specified.

Not Batman, although there was a very clever Batman reference in that series.
Flash?
Black Lightning?
It was indeed the Flash! Over to you, Ibby!
wow, lucky guess!

Which five female Justice Leaguers once held a slumber party while on a bodyguard mission?

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Fire
Ice
Power Girl
Crimson Fox
Big Barda
Huntress
Wonder Woman
Big Barda
Oracle
Black Canary
Which five female Justice Leaguers once held a slumber party while on a bodyguard mission?

1. Ice (guessed by CMK)
2. Power Girl (guessed by CMK)
3. Crimson Fox (guessed by CMK)
4. Wonder Woman (guessed by Myg)
5.

Not:

Fire
Big Barda
Huntress
Oracle
Black Canary
Catherine Cobert?
Nope. this was a full member.
Maya?
Dr. Light?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/27/19 08:27 AM
Vixen?
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Dr. Light?


Myg has it. It was Kimiyo.

As with before, player who guesses the last correct answer gets next Q. Over to Myg!
Hmmm thanks - I just guessed knowing what you think of Kimoyo- I'll come up with something in a few days
That's usually a safe bet with me. Kimiyo, Kinetix, Kole.

Wow. I swear I do NOT have a fascination with the letter K...
Ok, I'm back with my comics (I've been on the road a month), and can come up with something for this...

Who is the first X-Man that Illyana killed?
hrm. Colossus?
Not Colossus
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/14/19 03:21 AM
Nightcrawler?
NOT Nightcrawler either
Cyclops?
Wolverine?
Not Cyclops nor Wolvie
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/15/19 09:54 AM
Storm?
It was NOT Storm.
Any clues soon?

Professor X
Angel?
Who is the first X-Man that Illyana killed?

Not:
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Cyclops
Angel
Professor X
Storm
Wolverine

CLUE: This is not an obscure X-Man. In fact, this person has been important to nearly everyone on this list
Kitty Pryde?
YES! In the Magick mini-series, a young Illyana is faced with many versions of the X-Men, most having been killed by the demon S'ym. Kitty is transformed into a cat creature by Belasco and ends up killing Storm - driving Illyana to action. She wrestles Kitty down until she snaps her best friend's spine before going to her final confrontation with Belasco for her soul.

Over to you, CMK!
I remembered all those dead X-Men while Kitty was running around like a cat-creature, somehow I'd forgotten that it wasn't Illyana that killed them.
What villain took over the mind of Reed Richards, forcing the rest of the Fantastic Four to team up with Doctor Doom to defeat him?
Onslaught?
Mentallo?
Not Onslaught or Mentallo.
Thanos?
Not him either.
Mysterio?
Not Mysterio.

Here's a hint - for a while, this villain reformed and became a member of the Defenders.
Moonstone?
Nope. To recap, it's not:

Onslaught
Mentallo
Thanos
Mysterio
Moonstone
Overmind?
That is correct! In a four-part story culminating in the FF's 10th anniversary issue, the Overmind took over Reed's mind, and the only one who could possibly defeat an evil Reed was...Doctor Doom!

Yours, Myg!
Overmind was the only person I could think of to be a Defenders member... I'll come up with something in a bit...
Let's stick with the Defenders theme...

Who are the three heroes who form the center of the memorial for Valkyrie and Nighthawk?
I know Iceman, Angel and Beast weren't there, but I have no idea who.
None of those three

It was WAY more mythic
Hellcat, Gargoyle and Son of Satan?
Son of Satan was one of them!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/22/19 08:26 AM
Doctor Strange and Moondragon?
Doctor Strange and Son of Satan were two of them!

One more to go
Graystone?
Devil Slayer?
Not Graystone nor Devil Slayer

This character - while mythic - is not usually associated with the Defenders but came out of respect for the dearly departed
Thor
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/24/19 02:26 AM
Phantom Stranger? Whoops! Wrong Multiverse!
Thoth has it

Son of Satan, Dr. Strange and Thor combine to create a central mourning fire for the two heroes amidst a full range of Defenders present

Great splash page
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/29/19 10:42 PM
Thoth your turn.
Green Lantern, Katma Tui, succeeds in appointing a protector of the Obsidian Depths at the request of the Guardians. Yet, there is still no Green Lantern of the Obsidian Depths. Why is this?
Because there is no light so there's no concept of Green...so it has an F-sharp bell instead?
Spot on Chaim. Over to you!
Who helped Guy Gardner acquire Sinestro's original yellow ring?
Kilowog?
Nope.
Booster Gold (who has a history of taking rings)?
Michael Carter did not help him boost that ring.
Lobo in an all '90s posturing storyline?
It was indeed the main man whose aid Guy enlisted!
ah, it was during THAT age of comic books...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/14/19 11:36 PM
Thoth you are up.
thanks for the bump stile86

have PMed a reminder to thothy
Why did the Swordsman originally want to join the Avengers?

Bonus questions: How did he try to ensure he did join?
hat is his connection to Hawkeye?
he intended to betray them I think. staged a fake battle?
Not the story I was reading on this one.
wanted to get close to Scarlet Witch?
No, the first one was along the right lines, but it was a little more subtle than Betray the Team, say to another villain.
I believe he originally wanted to join in order to show Hawkeye up as he was Hawkeye's mentor

Swordsman tried to ensure he joined by breaking into the mansion?
Wanted to destroy the team from within?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/03/19 12:45 AM
I remember that Swordsman trained Hawkeye back at the circus but I can't remember his reason for joining.
Maybe it's time for a hint wink or two. or three, but let's not get too greedy
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/06/19 01:46 AM
Oh Thoth. Calling Thoth Lad. On your anniversary how about another clue?
I keep reminding myself to post to this thread, but don't seem to. This is because:-

a) I have a deep requirement to not finish something.
b) I have developed a Spaceopoly phobia.
c) I have been brainwashed by the slenderly evil denizens of Galaxy XII.

Well, while we await the explosion of Nucelo-rockets that will destroy the whole galaxy of mind invaders from Galaxy XII (clearly it was c) even if they deny all knowledge of it)...

I'm giving this to Ibbs. He's very close and teasing out the answer would be a bit of an effort.

Swordsman was hoping to join and be an actual member. Then he'd use his status as an Avenger to run all the scams he wanted.
"If I can join their team, there's nothing I won't be able to get away with!"
Swordsy ended up tangling with Quicksilver, before Wanda took him down. A quick background check was enough to end his chances.
A returning Hawkeye, upon hearing about this, shared the story of his origin and being left for dead by the Swordsman.

Over to Ibby!
Wow. Swordsman sure did a lot of... well, you know.

okay...

What particular thing did Blue Beetle succeed at doing, that irritated Power Girl so?
Cooking?
Fixing a software bug?
Nope and nope

It was something Power Girl also wanted to do
See the inside of Oracle's clock tower?
Sew a new costume without a boob window in it?
nope and nope
Complete a Rubik's Cube?
Got on really well with her cat?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/11/19 10:31 PM
Get shot by Maxwell Lord?
nope to all

What particular thing did Blue Beetle succeed at doing, that irritated Power Girl so?

hint 1: it was something Power Girl also wanted to do
hint 2: a doctor advised Beetle to do this


Not:

- cooking
- fixing a software bug
- seeing the inside of Oracle's clock tower
- Sewing a new costume without a boob window in it
- completing a Rubik's cube
- getting along well with her cat
- getting shot at by Max Lord
Lose weight
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/12/19 11:37 PM
Oh bingo! Of course Thoth. I even remember the issue. JLA during the Giffen days wasn't it?
Thoth has it. Yeah, it was the Giffen days.

Ted was gaining weight, and the doctor was trying to figure out how to motivate him. The doc realized that Ted,, immature human being that he is, would be motivated by infuriating Kara. And so....
Why was the Weapons Master so sure he was going to beat the JLoA?
He came from the future and knew it would happen?
Yups. He had a damaged book written by Wonder Woman which he thought told the story of his victory.

Over to you Ibby!
hah! lucky guess!

Who questioned why s/he was so trusting of Faith, causing her to reveal that one of her powers was to make people work well together?
Major Disaster?
nope, but you are thinking of the correct era
Jason Blood?
Nightwing?
Myg has it - it was Nightwing, who questioned why he suddenly felt like he trusted Faith, despite having just met her.
Ah, I had ruled out Nightwing as I thought *he* would be naturally the best at getting people to work together, so wouldn't need Faith.

I always thought of her as a writer's pet favourite character with mysteries only he was interested in, pushed into a prominent team where she wouldn't normally have stood a chance of membership.
Batman was the one who formed this team, so Nightwing had to work with whom he had - including Faith.

If I remember right, the others were Hawkgirl (Kendra), Green Arrow (Ollie), Etrigan, Major Disaster, Firestorm (Ronnie), Atom (Ray).

Faith was an unknown,newly-created character. Though I have to say, her power scales were off the charts, and I didn't mind having her on the JLA.
Terrax has taken out the New Warriors and Psionex. Who comes to their rescue?
Uh... Moondragon?
The Fantastic Four, the Silver Surfer, and Galactus?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/23/19 01:28 AM
Thor?
Not Moondragon nor Thor

Ann has it with the Fantastic 4!
Yay! Thanks, Andy!

I love Fabian Nicieza's New Warriors run. love

New question very soon.
New question:

Name the two X-Men event storylines from the 90s, produced only six months apart, where Cable disappeared at the end of the first and returned at the beginning of the second.
Hrm X-cutioner's Song?
That's half-correct, Ibby, because it's only one of the two event storylines I'm asking for.
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Yay! Thanks, Andy!

I love Fabian Nicieza's New Warriors run. love

New question very soon.


Also love that run
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
That's half-correct, Ibby, because it's only one of the two event storylines I'm asking for.



Yay! partial credit!

I read one part of X-Cutioner's song, so it popped to ind. Unfortunately I never really followed the X-Men, so can't guess more...
Ibby, you're my friend and all, and I know Spaceopoly games are all in fun, but if you didn't know enough about the question to make a full answer, there was really no point in replying. Of course, I forgive you, but I'm just saying.

To recap:

Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
New question:

Name the two X-Men event storylines from the 90s, produced only six months apart, where Cable disappeared at the end of the first and returned at the beginning of the second.


It has already been established, through Ibby's reply, that one of the storylines is X-Cutioner's song.

I will turn the thread over to whoever names the other storyline.
Age of Apocalypse?
Was it the X-Tinction Agenda? Apologies if I'm making up crossovers but it just popped Nightcrawler-like into my head.
Not Age of Apocalypse nor X-Tinction Agenda.

Hint: The title is a pun on Magneto's powers.
Repellent Monthly would have been a Wolvie book, so not that.... thinking … smile
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Repellent Monthly would have been a Wolvie book, so not that.... thinking &#133; smile


LOL lol

Another hint: The word "repellent" puts you on the right track towards the answer, but first you must reverse polarities.
I remember reading something like that, but it would be cheating to look it up! But I remember reading the name before and going "oh, this is so all about Magneto".

Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Ibby, you're my friend and all, and I know Spaceopoly games are all in fun, but if you didn't know enough about the question to make a full answer, there was really no point in replying. Of course, I forgive you, but I'm just saying.



Aww but I get partial credit, right? smile A lot of trivia questions in Spaceopoly turn into "anyone playing just guesses anyone they think could fit" smile
The hints are making me think... Fatal Attractions?
Yes. The two storylines are X-Cutioner's Song and Fatal Attractions. The first, my favorite X-Men event of all time, and possibly my favorite superhero event ever. The second, my least favorite X-Men event of all time, and the beginning of the end as far as my "real time" involvement in the X-Men. The franchise kinda sorta bounced back with Age of Apocalypse, but immediately after that one, Fabian Nicieza was fired, driving the final nail in the coffin.

Over to you, Andy.
Ahhh yes, the ups and downs of the X-Universe. I managed to stay involved until the Civil War and the reign of Bendis.

Hmmm new Q up in a bit
Well done Andy! I hadn't heard of that one. Before Ann's second hint, I was trying to cram Magneto into Armageddon to give the classic, well remembered X-Event Armagnetton! Rubbish event, but with a good Def Leppard soundtrack. smile
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Well done Andy! I hadn't heard of that one. Before Ann's second hint, I was trying to cram Magneto into Armageddon to give the classic, well remembered X-Event Armagnetton! Rubbish event, but with a good Def Leppard soundtrack. smile


Thoth, LOL

lol

And I appreciate the kind words about Def Leppard. smile
Yeah, but are you gettin' it (All 64 crossover issues)? - Armagneton it!
Ooh, really gettin' it (All 384 multiple covers)? - Yes, Armagneton it!
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Yes. The two storylines are X-Cutioner's Song and Fatal Attractions. The first, my favorite X-Men event of all time, and possibly my favorite superhero event ever. The second, my least favorite X-Men event of all time, and the beginning of the end as far as my "real time" involvement in the X-Men. The franchise kinda sorta bounced back with Age of Apocalypse, but immediately after that one, Fabian Nicieza was fired, driving the final nail in the coffin.

Over to you, Andy.



Wow, how quality goes up and down over the X-verse!

I read part of X-Cutioner's Song early on, before reading the full thing by borrowing my aunt's collection. Quite nice. Fatal Attractions I also had read part of, but the part I did read didn't grab me enough to seek out the rest.
Let's stay in the X-Verse (since that's what I'm reading right now so that seems convenient)...
Xavier pulls together a team to head into Shi'Ar space in order to warn them of a coming threat. He has picked some of his team for very specific reasons.

Why are Rachel Summers and James Proudstar on the team?
They're both linked to some cosmic entity, and so if *they* say it's a threat then it must be a big one?
Rachel was there because of her link to the Phoenix Force and also because of her family relationship with Vulcan?

I remember reading about why James was there, but dang,, I forgot... was he ever linked to the Phoenix Force? I'm pretty sure there was another reason...
Nope to both guesses Ibby - there was another person on the team for their relationship to Vulcan

And Thoth, unfortunately the link to their respective cosmic identities is not part of it. In fact, at the time of the story, Rachel was an outlaw in Shi'Ar space for her connection to the Phoenix
Ah, it was Havok for the relationship to Vulcan then...

Was Xavier telepathic then?

Rachel for her telepathy

Warpath for... um... I really knew this before. Darn. I know he became close to Hepzibah, but this wasn't the reason for joining, right? Ok... Warpath because he had a grudge against Prof X, and Prof X wanted him along to "keep him on the straight and narrow" / question his judgment calls?
You got it

Rachel was needed because Xavier did not have telepathy at the time.

Warpath was chosen because he hated Professor X at one point (after all, he did kidnap Charles once) and Charles wanted someone on the team who could understand Vulcan's feelings.

Over to you, Ibby
Hah, nice! glad my memory managed to kick in.

ok let's see....

When the JSA went through a split / schism, spouses Liberty Belle and Hourman chose to go on different teams. Why?
They needed a break from each other?
Nope. some of the others thought so, but their marriage was actually quite healthy then.
They wanted to keep on eye on Magog?
Nope. Well, maybe somewhat, but it was not the main reason they decided to join separate teams.

When the JSA went through a split / schism, spouses Liberty Belle and Hourman chose to go on different teams. Why?

Not:
- anything to do with their marriage
- to keep an eye on Magog
In order to babysit Damage?
Nope.

It was not to baby sit a certain single hero...


When the JSA went through a split / schism, spouses Liberty Belle and Hourman chose to go on different teams. Why?

Not:
- anything to do with their marriage
- to keep an eye on Magog or on Damage
One of them wanted to follow Gog?
Nope, this schism happened after the whole Gog incident.
One wanted to develop legacy heroes and the other one... um.. didn't?
Nope.

Clue: this doesn't relate specifically to either team's purpose or philosophy on crime-fighting

When the JSA went through a split / schism, spouses Liberty Belle and Hourman chose to go on different teams. Why?

Clue:
- happened after the Gog "schism"

Not:
- anything to do with their marriage
- to keep an eye on Magog or on Damage or on any specific hero
- to follow Gog
- related to opinions on developing legacy heroes
- related to the philosophy of either schism
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/07/19 10:23 PM
Not very knowledgeable about this team or era but did it have something to do with the Speed Force side of Jesse's powers? Something else to do with her "Jesse Quick" aspect and the original Flash Jay Garrick maybe, splitting up the speedsters or on the other hand needing to put them both on the same team?
no, it had nothing to do with powers.

think about the advantages of having a superhero couple on separate teams. What are the advantages for the teams?
liaisons between the two teams ????
Myg has it! They joined so they could liaise between the two teams!
Were the phones out? smile
Nobody else wanted to use them wink

Part of it may have been because of all the sweet nothing baby talk that Jesse and Rick were using...
Ok... who killed Lilandra Neramani?
Ah wait I read this recently. It was an assassin I think... uh... Deathbird?
It was NOT Deathbird
Gladiator?
Not Gladiator... this character was a surprise tie to the Shi'Ar
Ah so not Deathbird then.

Urm... gosh, I really read about this recently but can't remember.

The Kree Supreme Intelligence?
Not the Supreme Intelligence
.... Hawkeye?

Remembering how he killed non-Hulked up Bruce Banner...
Nope.. This character is related to an Earth hero (same power origins) but is a different character. They were trying to make the Marvel character more cosmic.
Quasar, Imperial Guard version?
Captain Marvel...?
Who killed Lilandra Neramani?

Not:
Gladiator
Hawkeye
Deathbird
Supreme Intelligence
Captain Marvel
Quasar

HINT:
This character is related to an Earth hero (same power origins) but is a different character. They were trying to make the Earth Marvel character more cosmic.
The Earth hero was a New Warrior
ah... Nova?
Nope


The assassin shares a history with the Earth hero but not the name

HINT: The name of the Earth hero is partially related to someone already guessed
Marvel Boy?
Not Marvel Boy
Warbird?
Not Warbird


Remember the Earth hero was (kind of) a member of the New Warriors - think NYC and local
The assassin also shares a name with a group of Batman villains
Darkhawk?
YES Darkhawk is the Earth hero. This guy was an alien who had gotten similar armor, revealing the darkhawks as the shepards of the Shi'Ar (or something like that)


This particular character shared a name with a group of Batman villains
whew! thanks for the clues, Myg. They really helped narrow it down.

I remember reading about Lilandra's death, but the shock was such that I focused on her and not on her killer.
Which super hero earned the affectionate nickname "keychain""?
Doctor Light
Kid Flash?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/09/19 10:08 PM
Bump Ibby.
oops. thanks for the bump. this has been off my radar for a while!

Thoth has it. Kimiyo was telling Wally Flash that she used to be called Ki-Chan as a child, he affectionately started calling her Keychain.
bump for thothy
PM sent and bump posted smile
In a fairly early Avengers story, what was the goal of the Sons of the Serpents?
World domination?
Fomenting White Supremacy?
Andy has it. They targetted "foreigners" and that was basically any non white person. Surprisingly relevent behind the costumes. Over to you Andy.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/30/19 12:58 AM
Bump Myg
Ahhhhh, the Sons of the Serpent... Who knew?



Alright, which supervillain dressed up as Captain America to recruit a group of Avenger reservists to pull off a heist?
Taskmaster?
Yes, Thoth, Taskmaster duped Carol, Lupe, Scott and Genis into sabotaging the Triune. Over to you!
Crumbs! The Ultimate Ultron (formerly Ultron 6) has attacked the UN to get at the creator of Adamantium. He's made of the stuff himself. How do the Avengers defeat him?
Use Wakandan technology to deactivate?
No. They did use Wakandan technology to contain a blast at one point though.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/05/20 09:48 PM
Scarlet Witch deactivates him?
Scarlet Witch was not present on this occasion.
Adamantium... bring in a magnetic person (Magneto? Polaris?) to rip the adamantium apart?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/06/20 10:10 PM
Seal him in molten adamantium?
I was expecting Adamantium too. It does appear in the story. Ultron 6 is formed from it. The solution lies with one of the Avengers.
Hank Pym manages to neutralize the adamantium somehow?
Thor sucks the power out with his hammer?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/07/20 10:25 PM
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Thor sucks the power out with his hammer?

Ooh that sounds familiar.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Hank Pym manages to neutralize the adamantium somehow?



Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Thor sucks the power out with his hammer?


Ibby's closest. It was down to Hank Pym. He didn't neutralise the Adamantium as such. He did neutralise Ultron. Any idea how? If not, Ibby's closest for the win.
Pym forces Ultron into a psychological meltdown about being his daddy
Andy's close enough for the win. Pym impersonated Adamantium's inventor. When Ultron read Pym's mind it received a preconditioned thought of "thou shalt not kill". As that was against its values, it had a meltdown.
LOL I was totally joking
New Q up shortly
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Andy's close enough for the win. Pym impersonated Adamantium's inventor. When Ultron read Pym's mind it received a preconditioned thought of "thou shalt not kill". As that was against its values, it had a meltdown.


Really? Wow. So all the JLA needed to do to beat Amazo was...

... disband the JLA.

"Amazo has all the powers of the JLA. If there is no JLA, it has no powers!"

Okay, never mind.
That was the payoff to Millar's JLA Amazo story in the days Morrison had him hanging on his coat tails. smile
Indeed, that's the one I was thinking of wink Thank you, Helpful Lad.
Ok this took awhile...

Who locked Captain America in a cell with a hot guy in his underwear?
Was that hot guy Namor? I mean, it's pretty much just underwear...

Um, Red Skull?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/20/20 01:35 AM
Baron Zemo?
Not Red Skull nor Baron Zemo

(And the guy in his underwear was NOT Namor - though agreed about his costume)
Namor could also be considered hot. If you focus on his body and ignore the frowny frowny face smile

Erm... Kingpin?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/20/20 11:35 PM
Maria Hill?
Not Kingpin nor Maria Hill

(Secret glee at having a question that goes more than one round)

Hint: This was not a standard Cap foe
Ultron?
Doctor Doom?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/21/20 10:06 PM
Egghead?
Not Ultron, Doctor Doom or Egghead
To Recap:

Who locked Captain America in a cell with a hot guy in his underwear?

Hint: This was not a standard Cap foe

Not:
Doctor Doom
Egghead
Ultron
Maria Hill
Red Skull
Baron Zemo
Kingpin
The Beyonder!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/23/20 07:49 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The Beyonder!
Ooh! That's a good answer. Just in case it's wrong, the Mandarin?
Magneto?
Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The Beyonder!
Ooh! That's a good answer. Just in case it's wrong, the Mandarin?


That's the power of the exclamation mark! It makes random guesses plausible. smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/23/20 10:17 PM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The Beyonder!
Ooh! That's a good answer. Just in case it's wrong, the Mandarin?


That's the power of the exclamation mark! It makes random guesses plausible. smile
LOL!
To Recap:

Who locked Captain America in a cell with a hot guy in his underwear?

Hint: This was not a standard Cap foe

Not:
Doctor Doom
Egghead
Ultron
Maria Hill
Red Skull
Baron Zemo
Kingpin
Mandarin
Magneto
Beyonder!
Kang!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/25/20 09:38 PM
Yellowjacket?
Mystique?
To Recap:

Who locked Captain America in a cell with a hot guy in his underwear?

Hint: This was not a standard Cap foe

Not:
Doctor Doom
Egghead
Ultron
Maria Hill
Red Skull
Baron Zemo
Kingpin
Mandarin
Magneto
Beyonder!
Kang!
Yellowjacket
Mystique


Second Hint: This character had mystical abilities
Morgan le Fay?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/26/20 10:35 PM
Doctor Strange?
Enchantress?
To Recap:

Who locked Captain America in a cell with a hot guy in his underwear?

Hint:
This was not a standard Cap foe
This character had mystical abilities


Not:
Morgan LeFay
Enchantress
Dr. Strange
Doctor Doom
Egghead
Ultron
Maria Hill
Red Skull
Baron Zemo
Kingpin
Mandarin
Magneto
Beyonder!
Kang!
Yellowjacket
Mystique
Doctor Druid...?
Loki!
Not Dr Druid or Loki
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/30/20 08:12 AM
Hellstorm?
Gath!
Mephisto?
To Recap:

Who locked Captain America in a cell with a hot guy in his underwear?

Hint:
This was not a standard Cap foe
This character had mystical abilities
This character was closely affiliated with one of the villains already guessed (who has been a major Avengers baddie in their own right)


Not:
Morgan LeFay
Enchantress
Dr. Strange
Doctor Doom
Egghead
Ultron
Maria Hill
Red Skull
Baron Zemo
Kingpin
Mandarin
Magneto
Beyonder!
Kang!
Yellowjacket
Mystique
Dr. Druid
Loki
Mephisto
Gath!
Hellstorm
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/01/20 12:51 AM
Etrigan?
Not Etrigan
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/01/20 08:05 AM
OOps! Wrong universe.

Hela?
Mordred!
I'm running out of Marvel villains (as I am not really a Marvel reader lol)

Daimon Hellstrom?
It was indeed Mordred!

Dressed in the Captain Britain armor, Mordred easily defeated Captain America. When Cap woke up, he was wearing chains and across the room lay Brian Braddock, unconscious and in his underwear. When Steve finally roused Brian to consciousness, the two combined their strained efforts in pulling a giant brick from the wall. Together, they broke the chains with the heavy brick and managed to turn the tables on Mordred


Over to you, Thoth!
I knew the power of the exclamation mark would get me there...eventually. Thanks to that Busiek/Perez Avengers story rather than the one in the answer.
LOL it's funny how Marvel logic can work
Cap, Thor and Iron Man dismiss Wanda, Pietro, Clint and Vision from the Avengers, for protecting someone. Who were they protecting?


Why, without even having to post to the thread, Chaim has managed to get the right answer! They were protecting Captain Marvel from a sudden upsurge in anti alien sentiment. As Chaim's Power Cosmic also said, the original Avengers weren't themselves. They were Skrulls.

Over to you Chaim!
Funny thing is, until two weeks ago I couldn't have answered that question. But I just happened then to take out the Kree-Skrull War TPB from my local library!

What is the name of Ka-Zar's and Shanna's child?
I thought they had triplets: Edgar, Rice and Burroughs. :Smile:

Cub?
Nope.
Tarzan?
Ka-Zar, Jr.?
Neither of those.
Evolutionary Jr. With Ka Zar giving Sheena a lot of bitter looks. smile

Charles, after Xavier?
No, but I'll say it is (like "Charles") a normal-person name and not something that relates to Ka-Zar being a Tarzan-type adventurer.
Steve after Steve Rogers?
James?
Neither of those.
Tony?
William?
Nope. I'll throw another hint: he shares his first name with a Marvel super-hero whose first and last names are alliterative.
Matt as in Daredevil?
Reed?
Thoth lad has it - his name is Matthew (don't recall seeing it shortened to Matt on-panel, but it's one and the same). Don't know if he was named for Daredevil (no idea if either Ka-Zar or Shanna have any special history with him), but that's who he shares his first name with.
I was wondering if travelled to NYC to guest in umpteen books. I forgot Reed but Peter was going to be my next guess.
What did the Avengers try to stop Leonard Tippet doing?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/09/20 11:28 PM
That name sounds so familiar. I will keep thinking ...
they stopped him from murdering his parents for giving him such a name?
His name was supposed to be as bland as he was regarded to be. He didn't murder his parents but...
They stopped him from destroying the world?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
His name was supposed to be as bland as he was regarded to be. He didn't murder his parents but...


... drove his parents insane ?
The answer is a combination of both Ibby and Andy.

Tippet was contacted by The Watcher. After droning on about forever being able to only watch, he completely meddles as usual. Tippet was infused with vast amounts of power and told to kill five people (Ibby's murder answer). It turned out that this was a ruse, to drain Tippet of power that would have destroyed the world (Andy's answer). Tippet sacrificed himself to prevent this power becoming a problem... or something.. I was too busy noticing that the Avengers were calling him an unimportant drab. Shows what they think of the little guy.

Since I would have taken moider as an answer, I'll give it to Ibby as he also answered foist.

Over to you, Ibby!
Whew! sounds like a complicated plot worthy of the Silver Age.

Poor boring Tippet. I can just imagine Wasp, Hawkeye, Iron Man and the rest all being "oh, how can such a normal ordinary man be so powerful...!"
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/16/20 11:14 PM
Bump Ibby
thanks for the reminder, stile!

Ok...

Name the two Justice Leaguers brought in to replace some "fired" members briefly, during the Breakdowns story arc.
Aquaman and Flash?
Hal Jordan & Arthur Curry?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/17/20 11:53 PM
I should know this. I've read it enough times but not for a few years now...

I think both of these were earlier but just in case:
Doctor Fate (in female form)?
General - er - Freedom? (Can't remember if that was his name but old guy supposedly he fought in WWII and saying a magic word/phrase turned him into super-righteous bloke that Guy Gardner almost worshipped - fought arch-nemesis who had a giant Nazi robot).
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Aquaman and Flash?



Nope

Originally Posted by thoth lad
Hal Jordan & Arthur Curry?



Nope

Originally Posted by stile86
I should know this. I've read it enough times but not for a few years now...

I think both of these were earlier but just in case:
Doctor Fate (in female form)?
General - er - Freedom? (Can't remember if that was his name but old guy supposedly he fought in WWII and saying a magic word/phrase turned him into super-righteous bloke that Guy Gardner almost worshipped - fought arch-nemesis who had a giant Nazi robot).


Nope. stile86, you're the closest. But:

Female Doctor Fate came in much earlier in the series,

while General Glory joined shortly before Breakdowns, but not as a replacement.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/18/20 10:34 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Nope. stile86, you're the closest. But:

Female Doctor Fate came in much earlier in the series,

while General Glory joined shortly before Breakdowns, but not as a replacement.

Yes I thought Doctor Fate was earlier and even General Glory (thank you for the name).

Breakdowns was the windup of the International JL, went for about 15? issues. There was the tale of Despero attacking again and the one about the sorcerer from - er - Silver something even though she was all in brown - anyway from her and Blue Jay's dimension. Guy was one of those dropped for sucker punching Beetle.

Still can't remember. Oh wait. Was it Lightray and Orion or was that earlier as well?
Correct description of Breakdowns, stile! Silver Sorceress was the lady all in brown, yeah, I know, not the best name... she and Blue Jay were obvious pastiches of Scarlet Witch and Wasp anyway...


But not Lightray and Orion, who briefly joined quite a bit earlier.

Name the two Justice Leaguers brought in to replace some "fired" members briefly, during the Breakdowns story arc.

Not:

Aquaman
Flash
Hal Jordan
Doctor Fate (Linda Strauss)
General Glory
Lightray
Orion
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/20/20 07:42 AM
I am really stuck on this one.

If it is not too early for a clue, am I right that these two are not normally associated with the JL (which was true of a lot of the JLI anyway)?
Hmmm....

I would say these two are not among the first heroes one thinks of as JL members...

Neither is American...

Both had already been associated somehow with the JLI before joining up,

and both would join again at least once in the future.
I guess one will be Doctor Light.

The other...

Lobo?
Ah, you know me too well.

One was indeed Kimiyo Hoshi, Doctor Light

other was not Lobo
Name the two Justice Leaguers brought in to replace some "fired" members briefly, during the Breakdowns story arc.

Clues:

these two are not among the first heroes one thinks of as JL members...

Neither is American...

Both had already been associated somehow with the JLI before joining up,

and both would join again at least once in the future.


1. Doctor Light
2.

Not:

Aquaman
Flash
Hal Jordan
Doctor Fate (Linda Strauss)
General Glory
Lightray
Orion
Lobo
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Ah, you know me too well.


Tee hee. I've no memory of her rejoining at that time. I remember picking up JLA #60 for the Maguire art. That makes me think I pulled the plug on the main series some time before that. I'll have got them out of the bargain bin much later on.

The Beefeater?
I'm not sure if the Beefeater was ever considered a real member. Anyway, he doesn't fit the "joined again after" clue

Name the two Justice Leaguers brought in to replace some "fired" members briefly, during the Breakdowns story arc.

Clues:

these two are not among the first heroes one thinks of as JL members...

Neither is American...

Both had already been associated somehow with the JLI before joining up,

and both would join again at least once in the future.


1. Doctor Light
2.

Not:

Aquaman
Flash
Hal Jordan
Doctor Fate (Linda Strauss)
General Glory
Lightray
Orion
Lobo
The Beefeater
Tasmanian Devil?
Fire?
CMK has it, it was Taz! He was attached to the JLI's Australian embassy before this, and would later become a re-official member of the JLI at the end of the Red Winter storyline.
The Taz answer brings me to my question:

In "The History of the DC Universe", there's a page dedicated to the Global Guardians, and depicted alongside them is a hero who has never been associated with that team. Who was that hero?
Ooh tough one...

Crimson Fox?
Non.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/21/20 10:02 PM
Beefeater? (although calling him a hero may be stretching things a bit)
Shining Knight?
Lionheart?
Toughie... post Crisis '80s....I keep seeing Dr Mist's face... but he *was* part of the team.
Not Katana...not Doctor Light...not B'Wana Beast... not Congorilla… not Vixen...

Was it Sunburst?
It was none of those. That page only had one representative of any given country, and the United Kingdom was represented by Godiva, a genuine Global Guardian.
Ditto Japan and the Rising Sun.
Oh yes, each had a flag and there was a primer. Thinks of unrepresented countries... no USA rep was there... tsk...what about Red Star ? I cant think of another Russian hero of the time. He was in Crisis in the montage of global guardians fighting the shadow demons.
Red Star is the correct answer!

(USA was represented by Owlwoman, BTW.)
Gosh, Owlwoman. Never did find out why she sided with bad Jack O Lantern.

An assist to Ibby who gave a Starfire answer on another thread.

New Q soon....
She was probably under the Queen Bee's mental control, weren't they all?
That was Owlwoman's story and she stuck to it!

Originally Posted by thoth lad

An assist to Ibby who gave a Starfire answer on another thread.

New Q soon....


glad I could somehow help wink
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/29/20 02:52 AM
Bump Thoth
another bump up smile
Uh Oh! Graviton's power has gone out of control, and his entire floating island has crushed itself into a very heavy boulder! Now it's about to land on Manhattan! Which four heroes catch it?
Um... the Fantastic Four?
None of the Fantastic Four
Vision
Thor
Iron Man
Ms Marvel?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/09/20 12:20 AM
That was from the very first Graviton story, wasn't it? Avengers comic? I think Andy has the first three but the fourth ...?

Vision
Thor
Iron man
Wonder Man
Andy did indeed get 3, but stile gets the win for getting the fourth. Plus bonus points for getting the story too. Over to you stile!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/09/20 10:32 PM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Andy did indeed get 3, but stile gets the win for getting the fourth. Plus bonus points for getting the story too. Over to you stile!

Thankee. Sometimes you are lucky with the stories read.

Clark Kent has left the Daily Planet to be the Managing Editor of Newstime magazine. Lois misses his company and invites him out on a date but he declines. Why?
It would be a conflict of interest to date someone from a rival company?
He has started to date Lana Lang?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/10/20 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
It would be a conflict of interest to date someone from a rival company?
No
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
He has started to date Lana Lang?
No
He knows that it's really Titano, stuck in Lois' body after a mind swap experiment gone wrong?
He had a work event?
He's possessed by the Eradicator?
Jimmy Olsen turned into a giant turtle boy?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/12/20 07:17 AM
Chaim has it! (although I half wish Thoth's answer was correct)

Yes at this point the Eradicator (still a device, not a humanoid) is working to turn Supes into a more logical, unemotional, "pure" Kryptonian. When Lois bumps into him in the street (after musing to her sister that she is surprised to find she misses him) she invites him back to her place for tea but he responds that now that they are no longer work colleagues he sees no reason to socialise with her. He is then mildly surprised when she appears to be upset.

Your turn Chaim.
Who is the father of Rancor's child?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/12/20 10:05 PM
Going to have to wait for clues on this one. I have no idea who Rancor is (apart from that they are probably female) and don't want to look it up. Someone else go for it.
Lobo?
Not Lobo. Rancor is a Marvel character, from the Guardians of the Galaxy series - not the current one with Star Load and Groot, but the original one that took place in the Marvel Universe's future.

If no one comes up with any close answers soon, I'll think of a new question.
Originally Posted by stile86
Going to have to wait for clues on this one. I have no idea who Rancor is (apart from that they are probably female) and don't want to look it up. Someone else go for it.


Same for me. Once we have clues I could make some educated guesses... or try to.
Wolverine
No, but tangentially connected. Rancor herself is actually Wolverine's 30th-century descendant.
Oh, right - ooops - I thought the question was who was Rancor's father. As soon as you said GOTG, I realized who the character was

Let me see - Major Vance Astro?
Nope.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/13/20 10:02 PM
Charlie 27?
Not him either.
Yondu?
Wonder Man?
Scott Summers?
None of those three.

Hint: this character was introduced in the 1990's Guardians of the Galaxy series.
I don't think I read that...
Yeah, it looks like almost no one here did. If no one who knows posts by tomorrow morning, I'll reveal the answer and think of a new question.
Sorry Chaim. It's not a series I know anything about. I only know of them at all because they kept hogging the membership lists of Avengers.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/15/20 09:58 PM
The only other original team member was Martinex, the crystaline dude. Don't know any characters outside that.
The answer is Talon, he was a cat-like Inhuman (who was also the apprentice to the Sorcerer Supreme) who joined the team during the aforementioned series. Rancor made him impregnate her against his will in order so she could bear an heir to the throne.
New, hopefullt more answerable question: Which Avenger was Ultron always the most afraid of?
`Vision? (maybe too obvious...)
Henry Pym?
Ultron's most feared Avenger is neither Henry Pym nor the Vision.
Jocasta?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/16/20 09:34 PM
Scarlet Witch because her improbability/hex power could shut him down in spite of his adamantium body?
stile has it! Wanda was the one that Ultron most feared.
ooh nice one. I was also gonna guess Wanda next because of the nature of her powers!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/17/20 10:45 PM
I remember reading an old Avengers years ago where Ultron kidnapped Wanda to get rid of her first because she had been key to "destroying" him last time.

Oh no! Terra-Man has captured Superman and imprisoned him in a rock that is impervious to all his powers except for Super-Strength. Superman can only use his super-strength by thinking of a certain image which he cannot remember. What is the image and how has Terra-Man removed it from his mind?
An image of Lois Lane?

Terra-Man used some sort of memory-wiping machine?
It's the image of Laurel Kent, who Superboy fancied in the future. It was Superman who removed the memory using Amnesium due the creepyness of it.Terra Man wants to know what the memory is, so he can blackmail Superman into doing his bidding.
It was the image of his closest friend and ally, the other half of the World's Finest - Batman! And Terra Man removed it by using Red Kryptonite
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/18/20 09:32 PM
No, no and no.

Looks like this one is a bit trickier.

Clue: the image is NOT of a human character.
It was Krypto! The doggy from his boyhood... who, when DC ignored him, went off to join the Interplanetary Canine Patrol and became much more heroic than any of Earth's human capes.
ooh nice choice!

I'll guess... Doomsday? was this after Superman died? The trauma caused Supes to forget it?
Mr. Mxyzptlk ... because his 5th dimensional impishness caused the loss of powers?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/19/20 11:47 PM
No, no and no.

This is a bit trickier than I imagined. If no classic Superman fans chime in soon I will post another.

Clue: the image thought of is the pet of a supporting character who appeared in a handful of Superman comics in the early Bronze Age (early 70s) written by Cary Bates and drawn by Curt Swan.
oooh, that's a bit of a blind spot for me. I know more about the 90s-era Superman cast (the one that developed before the Death of Superman).
Beppo?
Glop?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/21/20 12:43 AM
Still all no.

I will leave this one more day in case someone else who grew up on Bronze Age Superman chimes in. This was the heyday of Terra-Man, Vartox, Clark Kent as a newsreader at Morgan Edge's WGBS, the Sandman Superman stealing his powers, and Curt Swan in top form.

Further clue: the pet in question is never given a name and is a mammal but not a normally domesticated breed and is the pet of a young boy.
Is it a ... sheep?
Could it be that time Superman shared his powers with a young boy and his .... lynx?
Oops, I haven't guessed my random animal... was it a ? (and I'd love it to be a levitating dolphin) ?skunk?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/21/20 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Could it be that time Superman shared his powers with a young boy and his .... lynx?

Yay! Someone remembers! Absolutely correct.

In a previous story by Denny O'Neil an accident involving Ferlin Nyxly (a rare but sporadic recurring villain) and a young boy named Billy Anders who lives in Clark Kent's apartment building transfers Billy's mind into a Lynx. Billy is fine as long as he and the cat are kept close together. In a later story aliens zap Superman such that whenever he uses his Super-Strength he experiences an equal and opposite force against himself. Another alien helps him around this by transferring his Super-Strength to Billy, who can't use it but can store it. When Superman needs his strength he thinks of Billy's pet Lynx which briefly transfers his strength back to him to use and then returns it to Billy before the "boomerang" effect can strike Superman.

In this Terra-Man story by Cary Bates (who created the villain) TM telepathically notes Superman's use of the lynx image, tracks down Billy and kidnaps him and his lynx. He places the lynx in a telepathic shield which makes everyone forget about the lynx. Thus when he imprisons Superman in a hollow boulder made impervious to all his other powers, Superman can't remember the trigger image to regain his Super-Strength. However Billy figures it out and remembers his pet causing Superman to remember as well, and Superman breaks out, rescues Billy, and figures out a way to safely undo the transfer and restore them all to normal (which is a good thing for Billy because although he liked being Superman's temporary sidekick the Super-Strength was too much for his body and was making him unable to heal from the slightest injury).

Terra-Man (a villain I quite enjoyed) makes several more appearances but Billy only appears a handful more times before disappearing into the limbo of old unused Superman characters.

Myg, your turn.
Nicely remembered Andy. Good question Stile.
Yes, good question, stile. Makes me want to track down that story, it seems interesting. Will definitely be Googling Billy Anders! Nice going, Myg.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/22/20 09:25 PM
Here's an article on cbr all about Billy Anders if you don't have the comics. When Superman Shared His Strength With a Little Kid and His Pet Lynx
Thanks stile! I don't have the comics indeed smile Good read!

But now I'm curious, what happened to that nincompoop riding the motorcycle? He basically did a hit and run! mad
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/24/20 12:11 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Thanks stile! I don't have the comics indeed smile Good read!

But now I'm curious, what happened to that nincompoop riding the motorcycle? He basically did a hit and run! mad
That's exactly what he did. He is one of many residents or visitors to 344 Clinton St (where Clark Kent has apartment 3-D) who only appeared once and were never seen again. There are a few who occasionally reappear (List of Residents at DC Wiki) but Jangles Jones the rock band drummer was not one of them either.

Myg's turn.
Interesting. That story reminds me of Captain Marvel Jr.'s origin as well.
Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Thanks stile! I don't have the comics indeed smile Good read!

But now I'm curious, what happened to that nincompoop riding the motorcycle? He basically did a hit and run! mad
That's exactly what he did. He is one of many residents or visitors to 344 Clinton St (where Clark Kent has apartment 3-D) who only appeared once and were never seen again. There are a few who occasionally reappear (List of Residents at DC Wiki) but Jangles Jones the rock band drummer was not one of them either.

Myg's turn.


ooh! Thanks for confirming. Now this makes me mad: not only at the character, but for the writers/editors to introduce a very strange situation (man with lynx rides motorcycle indoors and hits child), with no follow up! I would have expected Superman to use his x-ray vision or superhearing or whatever to arrest that guy - what he did was definitely a crime!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/25/20 04:34 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Thanks stile! I don't have the comics indeed smile Good read!

But now I'm curious, what happened to that nincompoop riding the motorcycle? He basically did a hit and run! mad
That's exactly what he did. He is one of many residents or visitors to 344 Clinton St (where Clark Kent has apartment 3-D) who only appeared once and were never seen again. There are a few who occasionally reappear (List of Residents at DC Wiki) but Jangles Jones the rock band drummer was not one of them either.

Myg's turn.


ooh! Thanks for confirming. Now this makes me mad: not only at the character, but for the writers/editors to introduce a very strange situation (man with lynx rides motorcycle indoors and hits child), with no follow up! I would have expected Superman to use his x-ray vision or superhearing or whatever to arrest that guy - what he did was definitely a crime!

Yeah it was pretty bad when you think about it. Billy was (apparently) knocked unconscious and one of his legs was broken but even if he had come out of it with nary a scrape the motorcyclist should have been charged at the very least. Bronze Age I guess, better at dealing with issues than the Gold and Silver Ages but there were still a few plot devices that were never followed up.
Yeah... oh well, baby steps, I guess.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/26/20 10:05 PM
Bump Myg
Originally Posted by stile86
Here's an article on cbr all about Billy Anders if you don't have the comics. When Superman Shared His Strength With a Little Kid and His Pet Lynx


I actually had read that article! Not the original book

New Q coming up soon
Which hero does Diana pretend to be when she assists Hyppolyta on a mission during WWII?
This seems vaguely familiar....

Hawkgirl?
Nope
Liberty Belle?
Black Canary?
Not Liberty Belle NOR Black Canary
Phantom Lady?
Mlle Marie?
Q: Which hero does Diana pretend to be when she assists Hyppolyta on a mission during WWII?


Not:
Liberty Belle
Black Canary
Hawkgirl
Phantom Lady
Mlle Marie
I wonder if Diana pretended to be a mythical hero. Probably not a goddess, that might have been too much...

Atalanta?
Not Atalanta
Fury?
Mary Marvel?
It's not Mary Marvel nor Fury

This is more difficult than I thought!
Maybe a clue will make it easier wink
Ummmm she was a Golden Age hero
Became more prominent after All-Star Squadron (where I think she only appeared in 1 or 2 issues)
Miss America?
Sound like a good guess. She took over Wondy's position in the JSA following some retconnery (nephew of Sean Connery)

If not her, then...

Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks!
Yeah, that's why I guessed Miss America. Retcon power!
It was indeed Miss America.
In the Phil Jimenez run of Wonder Woman, Diana and Trevor are caught in a time warp and end up in WWII with the miniaturized Villainy, Inc. Hyppolyta is the Wonder Woman of that time and in the midst of battling Clea. Diana spins to transform her costume and ends up as Miss America, where her fighting style and multilingual capacity make Hyppolyta realize who she really is.


Over to Ibby!
cool! I think I'll look that story up.

ok...

After Tasmanian Devil (who was thought dead at the time) was rescued and revived, who thought he was kinda cute?
Obsidian?
Nope!

Also, Obsidian was happily partnered at the time, I think. (not that it should stop him from appreciating Taz, of course! look only, don't touch wink )
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/02/20 11:03 PM
Fire?
Not Fire, either!

Myg is on the right track, it was a male.



After Tasmanian Devil (who was thought dead at the time) was rescued and revived, who thought he was kinda cute?

Clue: it was a male

Not:

Obsidian
Fire
Congorilla
Also no
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/04/20 12:17 AM
Bunker?
nope and nope

Clue 2: not a human hero


After Tasmanian Devil (who was thought dead at the time) was rescued and revived, who thought he was kinda cute?

Clue: it was a male
Clue 2: not a human hero


Not:

Obsidian
Fire
Congorilla
Bunker
Martian Manhunter?
Nope
Lobo?
Nope

After Tasmanian Devil (who was thought dead at the time) was rescued and revived, who thought he was kinda cute?

Clue: it was a male
Clue 2: not a human hero


Not:

Obsidian
Fire
Congorilla
Bunker
Martian Manhunter
Lobo
Superman?
Nope

Congorilla is closest

After Tasmanian Devil (who was thought dead at the time) was rescued and revived, who thought he was kinda cute?

Clue: it was a male
Clue 2: not a human hero
clue: Congorilla is the closest guess


Not:

Obsidian
Fire
Congorilla
Bunker
Starman Mikaal Tomas
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/05/20 01:58 AM
Detective Chimp?
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Starman Mikaal Tomas


Myg has it. Mikaal was bisexual and thought Taz was cute, but Taz had made a comment about just coming back from the dead, and that he should go see his mother...

Taz WAS quite cute, in fact wink we saw him in his human, non-werewolf form, and he was relatively clean-shaven - not like the last time we saw him as human, which was around the time of Zero Hour.

Over to Myg!
The Congorilla clue gave it away ....


Ok new Q up soon
Yeah, Congorilla and Mikaal made quite the buddy pair when they were both in the JLA.
Which 6 heroines did Wonder Woman designate as field leaders of the superheroine army she pulled together to battle Circie and her army of supervillains?
Mary Marvel
Black Canary
Vixen
Hawkgirl
Ice
Zatanna
Got two!

1. Vixen
2. Black Canary
3.
4.
5.
6.
Donna Troy
Doctor Light
Power Girl
Cassie Sandsmark
Ibby gets it in one!

Over to you, Ibby
Cool! I remember reading this, and loving all the fight scenes and the sheer number of heroines packed in that two-parter.

Let's see...

Whose fake-diamond wedding ring eventually helped overthrow a dictator?
Black Canary?
Nope
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/07/20 11:58 PM
Lois Lane?
Nope, but you are on the right track with your Lois Lane guess, stile!
Whose fake-diamond wedding ring eventually helped overthrow a dictator?

Hint 1: the Lois Lane guess is on the righ track

Not:
Black Canary
Lois Lane
Lana Lang?
Sue Dibny?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/08/20 11:29 PM
Iris West?
Inza Kent?
CMK has it! it was Sue

Sonar was trying to win Sue?s heart, and threatened to kill Ralph (Elongated Man)

Sue pretended to go over , but left Ralph a real diamond wedding ring as a clue. Ralph deduced that Sue was pretending because the wedding ring he gave her was fake diamond, but their love was real. so a real diamond meant fake love

Sonar was so thrilled by this that he believed Sue was telling him the truth, despite supposedly being able to use his tech to tell if someone were lying. and Sue was also a really good actress

always loved the Sue/Ralph dynamic, and how Sue played such a key role in the League
Sorry for the delay - Passover means a lot of off-line time. Just ask Colossal Boy!

The climax of Marvel's Annual "Evolutionary War" event happened, interestingly, in the Avengers Annual of that year...when the Avengers team had just disbanded in the regular monthly book! Who summoned the Avengers to action in that Annual, and which five Avengers (or "Avengers", in one case) answered the call?
Hope you had a good Passover, CMK!

Summoned: Nick Fury?

Great Lakes Avengers (based on your "Avengers" in on case" line)
Hawkeye
Thor
Iron Man
Wasp
None correct, and the Great Lakes Avengers aren't the reason for the quotes. In fact, I'm rather certain they debuted after the aforementioned issue.
Jocasta called the team together


Who answered the call:
1. Hulk
2. Hercules
3. Falcon
4. The Captain
5. Beast


I can almost remember the story... almost
Correct...in fact, more than correct. I'd forgotten about the Falcon. The one who I remembered (and you didn't, but I only asked for five) was the one who I referred to as an "Avenger" - the female Yellowjacket, who wasn't really an Avenger but who acted as one in the story.
Oh right! Yellowjacket - forgot about her

New Q up in a bit

Hmmm guess I remembered more than I thought...
Which Marvel hero jumps in front of Bruce Banner in order to save him, sacrificing their life in the process, at the end of World War Hulk?
Hawkeye...?
Rick Jones in his latest heroic ID?
It is not Hawkeye
It IS Rick Jones as.... Rick Jones. He's actually non-powered and just wants the Hulk to calm down.
When Hulk reverts to Banner, one of the Warbound tries to attack him to get the Hulk back. Rick jumps in the way, taking a fatal blow.

Over to you, Thoth
An assist to that Excalibur issue that had an alternate Rick Jones try and become the side kick to everyone in the Marvel Universe. I've only ever read a couple of Hulk issues. Very early ones.

Over in the Legion rereads, BION, who has the power of the entire Legion is fighting Laurel Gand.

But here, The Super Adaptoid, with many of the Avengers powers, is battling the team in Central Park. How do the Avengers defeat the foe who has all of their powers?
They disband the Avengers?

OK, I know that was a Morrison plot for helping the JLA beat Amazo, but...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/15/20 11:10 PM
This was from an early Avengers story with Cap's Quirky Quartet wasn't it? Can't remember the ending.
Overload him because they all attack at once and he can't switch fast enough?
Hex bolt from the Scarlet Witch?
stile for another win. Super Adaptoid overloaded trying to use all of the avengers powers at once. He'd absorbed Thor and Iron Man's powers in this one. His costume changes when he does it, which was a nice touch. In this case his head got little Thor wings and he had to visit the doctor due to rust problems. smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/16/20 11:34 PM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
stile for another win. Super Adaptoid overloaded trying to use all of the avengers powers at once. He'd absorbed Thor and Iron Man's powers in this one. His costume changes when he does it, which was a nice touch. In this case his head got little Thor wings and he had to visit the doctor due to rust problems. smile

If memory serves he also turned green which I never understood.

A woman is mugged and killed in an alley and a hobo dies of old age exacerbated by radiation poisoning. Batman investigates. How are these events connected and why are they a threat to Superman?
Did the Super Adaptoid turn into Kryptonite Man?

Erm. Woman and hobo. Um. Did the events in the alley give rise to a new super villain, who somehow hates Superman?
The hobo had been exposed to Metallo who mugged the woman?
The woman is working for Luther, and has run off with some Kryptonite. The homeless guy was an innocent bystander trying to save the woman from Neutron, only to die from radiation poisoning. The crime occurs in Gotham, so Bats in investigating and it's a threat to Supes as Bats forgot to take his anti-Supes Kryptonite capsule out of his utility belt.

EDIT: I guess Super Adaptoid had the powers form early Avengers member, The Hulk
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/18/20 01:55 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Did the events in the alley give rise to a new super villain, who somehow hates Superman?
No super villain creation.
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
The hobo had been exposed to Metallo who mugged the woman?
No. Metallo is not involved.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The woman is working for Luther, and has run off with some Kryptonite. The homeless guy was an innocent bystander trying to save the woman from Neutron, only to die from radiation poisoning. The crime occurs in Gotham, so Bats in investigating and it's a threat to Supes as Bats forgot to take his anti-Supes Kryptonite capsule out of his utility belt.
Incorrect although has elements.
The woman used to work for Luthor (important), Kryptonite is involved but the mugging does not occur in Gotham.

Any of those points help? This might be a bit obscure for non-Superman readers so I am happy to entertain questions and will add more clues as I go.
This seems tantalizingly familiar. Is the woman victim that computer scientist who concluded that Superman was Clark Kent, and was fired for it because Luthor was too dense and egotistic, to accept that such a powerful Superman would deign to pass himself off as a lowly reporter?

You're definitely a big Supes fan, stile! I like learning about these cool stories through your trivia questions.
Originally Posted by stile
Incorrect although has elements.


...and the winner of Pun of the Week is...stile86 for the use of "elements" in response to the mention of "Kryptonite" ? > Mad Audience Applause, but that's what you get when you host awards ceremonies in Arkham<

Originally Posted by stile86
Any of those points help? This might be a bit obscure for non-Superman readers so I am happy to entertain questions and will add more clues as I go.

Not a bit of it! When a Boom Tube delivered, Orion gnawed, bargain copies of Jimmy Olsen's series to me, it also delivered the Tombola of Silver Age Plotting! Perfect for answering this sort of thing!

Because my Supes comic books are a bit limited, the woman I remember working for him was the one who discovered that Clark & Supes were one and the same. Luther fired her. This would be in the first couple of Byrne issues. From the "(important)" bit, I might be one the right lines. Thinking back, Luthor was complete slime. Weinstein as a super villain.

So, does she then try and prove her theory? Before she goes she might steal some of Metallo's kryptonite from Luthor's lab. The homeless guy is someone who stole that sample at some point? It's a threat to Supes, because of the Kryptonite and that she knows his secret ID. Batman is involved because... due to the Kryptonite he can't solve this one so it's an early post crisis World's Finest as Bats pieces together the clues and solves the homeless guy's death. Supes & Bats weren't on good terms, so does some of the woman's Luthor-science get fenced in Gotham? That would start Bats on the trail.
Yoikes! Sniped by Ibbster! stile will have to work out which one is closer!...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/19/20 01:40 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
This seems tantalizingly familiar. Is the woman victim that computer scientist who concluded that Superman was Clark Kent, and was fired for it because Luthor was too dense and egotistic, to accept that such a powerful Superman would deign to pass himself off as a lowly reporter?

You're definitely a big Supes fan, stile! I like learning about these cool stories through your trivia questions.

Thanks. Glad you enjoy learnign these tidbits.

Yes that is the woman, although this event happens 4 years later (in publishing time anyway).
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by stile
Incorrect although has elements.


...and the winner of Pun of the Week is...stile86 for the use of "elements" in response to the mention of "Kryptonite" ? > Mad Audience Applause, but that's what you get when you host awards ceremonies in Arkham<

LOL! Totally unintentional! Good spotting.

Originally Posted by thoth lad
Because my Supes comic books are a bit limited, the woman I remember working for him was the one who discovered that Clark & Supes were one and the same. Luther fired her. This would be in the first couple of Byrne issues. From the "(important)" bit, I might be one the right lines. Thinking back, Luthor was complete slime. Weinstein as a super villain.

So, does she then try and prove her theory? Before she goes she might steal some of Metallo's kryptonite from Luthor's lab. The homeless guy is someone who stole that sample at some point? It's a threat to Supes, because of the Kryptonite and that she knows his secret ID. Batman is involved because... due to the Kryptonite he can't solve this one so it's an early post crisis World's Finest as Bats pieces together the clues and solves the homeless guy's death. Supes & Bats weren't on good terms, so does some of the woman's Luthor-science get fenced in Gotham? That would start Bats on the trail.

Yes you too have picked the right woman. Bonus points for guessing that she tried to prove her theory and did steal some kryptonite from Luthor.

OK I thought about holding out for one last detail, specifically the piece of kryptonite, but that seems a bit fussy. I am going to award the win to Thoth whose imaginative recreation covers a few more plot points. Here is the full story with some background (the writers during this period Jerry Ordway, Dan Jurgens and Stern McLeod were using lots of subplots and tying lots of lore together).

Way back in Superman vol 2 #1, Byrne's first new issue, Luthor captures Metallo just as he is about to kill Superman and tells Metallo that is a pleasure he is keeping for himself. He takes Metallo's kryptonite and fashions some of it into a jewel on a ring which he wears constantly on his right hand to tease Superman and keep him at bay. Not long after comes the incident you both remember when Luthor, wondering about how Clark Kent gets all the best Superman stories in the Daily Planet, puts one of his best scientist Amanda McCoy on to the problem and she concludes that Superman and Clark Kent are the same person, a conclusion that Luthor rejects. He is so enraged that he fires McCoy (after having forced her to spend the night with him) and makes sure that she can never find work again.

Over the years other plot points happen, such as the low level radiation from the kryptonite ring gives Luthor radiation poisoning, necessitating the amputation of his right hand (which he of course blames Superman for) and will eventually cause his death. Occasionally strange parcels arrive at Clark Kent's desk to the Daily Planet such as a scrapbook of newspaper clippings of disasters averted at the last minute and later clippings of Superman. He eventually finds out that it belongs to Ma Kent but not before Batman has deduced his double identity from it. In another seemingly unrelated incident a man superficially similar to Clark is rayblasted to death by Intergang in Kent's apartment while Superman is in exile in space and everyone thinks Clark is dead for a while but Superman has no idea who the dead stranger is.

Finally Amanda arranges a secret meeting with Kent where she uses the kryptonite ring to force him to admit he is Superman. He thinks this is some plot of Luthor's but once McCoy screams out her hatred for Luthor he suggests a teamup but collapses. Amanda thinks she has accidentally killed him and runs off in a panic. Wandering in a daze she is mugged and killed in a back alley.

Then follows the Three-part story titled "Dark Knight over Metropolis".

Superman is naturally worried about the mysterious lady with the ring who knows his identity but has no idea how to find her. Meanwhile an old hobo dies in an alley in Gotham showing signs of radiation poisoning. Amongst his few possessions Batman finds a strange green ring (which he determines has a low level of radioactivity - in this period of post-Crisis stories kryptonite is extremely rare and generally unknown which is why he does not immediately recognise it) and a bus token from Metropolis so heads there to investigate. Superman and Batman are not exactly friends during this period, in fact they find each other's methods of operating quite irritating. Nevertheless they team up to foil a plot by Intergang and to solve their mysteries which end up joined. It seem the muggers, who did not notice the ring which was later found in the alley by the hobo, stole Amanda's keys and ransacked her apartment but completely missed her diary telling the whole story including Superman's dual identity. In her attempts to prove her theory McCoy had mailed things like the scrapbook to Kent to provoke a reaction and hired a PI to investigate Kent without letting on why. It was the PI who was killed in Kent's apartement. After that Amanda didn't want to get anyone else killed and so stole the ring from Luthor's vault and confronted Clark. Batman has had the ring all along without letting Superman know but he now leaves it for him as he departs.

In the the concluding scene Superman visits Batman in his cave for the first time and gives the ring to him saying that although they may not be friends, if the need to stop him (Superman) ever arises he wants the means to do so in the hands of someone he can trust with his life.

Wow what a ramble.

Take it away Thoth.

Thanks for the information on what happened with that subplot. I think the start of it was exactly when I stopped reading the book. I was aware Amanda had come back, but I don't know if she'd been identified as such in the book. Superman had just gone into space. I don't think I outlasted Byrne's tenure by too long.

I have two questions! The second was something I tripped over, and might be a little hit or miss. So.?

1) The defeat of Despero had cost the JusticeLeagueAmerica the life of Mister Miracle (or so they thought). Max Lord looks to reinforce the team & J'Onn makes an invite. Who is asked to join/ change membership status in that issue & who turns up to join?

1 -
2 -
3 -
4 -
5-
6 -
7 -
8 -

I'm not counting L-Ron!


The second question was... What was unusual about Doom Patrol member Scott Fisher's superhero career.
That was a nice read, stile! I remember the Metallo scene.

and a nice story leading to Batman and Superman becoming somewhat friends (though it's not my favorite dynamic between the two).

Poor Amanda. Always sympathized with her, she was quite a tragic character, ruined through no fault of her own.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/20/20 01:07 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
1) The defeat of Despero had cost the JusticeLeagueAmerica the life of Mister Miracle (or so they thought). Max Lord looks to reinforce the team & J'Onn makes an invite. Who is asked to join/ change membership status in that issue & who turns up to join?
I should know the answer to this. I collected and read all of JLI/JLA/JLE right through to the end of the run but my memory is a bit vague on these later issues. It was a robot copy of MM that died crashing a shuttle into Despero wasn't it?
Hmm. Was this when Tasmanian Devil was recruited?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/20/20 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The second question was... What was unusual about Doom Patrol member Scott Fisher's superhero career.
Didn't read much of this run except for crossovers. Did he never get a super-hero name before he died?
I remember the recuitment drive, though I probably can't name them all.

1) Starman (Will Payton)
2) El Diablo
3) Hawk
4) Dove (Dawn Granger)
5) Black Canary?
6) Doctor Fate?
7) Orion?
8) Lightray?

I have vague recollections of this, but can't quite figure it out

1) The defeat of Despero had cost the JusticeLeagueAmerica the life of Mister Miracle (or so they thought). Max Lord looks to reinforce the team & J'Onn makes an invite. Who is asked to join/ change membership status in that issue & who turns up to join?

1 - Black Canary
2 - General Glory
3 - Hal Jordan
4 - Aquaman
5- Power Girl
6 - Blue Jay
7 - Wonder Woman
8 - Batman



The second question was... What was unusual about Doom Patrol member Scott Fisher's superhero career.

Wasn't that the kid who could acid burn through things because he was exposed to toxic waste as a kid? He died of the cancer his powers gave him
Like with CMK, I remember the recruitment drive, but not all the details. i do know it was a mix between former Leaguers and entirely new heroes.

1 - Hawk
2 - Dove
3 - Starman Will Payton
4 - Huntress
5 - El Diablo
6 - Orion
7 - Lightray
8 - Lobo

On Scott Fisher: didn't he slip into a coma and die during Invasion?

Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by thoth lad
1) The defeat of Despero had cost the JusticeLeagueAmerica the life of Mister Miracle (or so they thought). Max Lord looks to reinforce the team & J'Onn makes an invite. Who is asked to join/ change membership status in that issue & who turns up to join?
I should know the answer to this. I collected and read all of JLI/JLA/JLE right through to the end of the run but my memory is a bit vague on these later issues. It was a robot copy of MM that died crashing a shuttle into Despero wasn't it?
Hmm. Was this when Tasmanian Devil was recruited?


I'm pretty sure that wasn't. The Mr. Miracle copy died before Breakdowns, Taz showed up in Breakdowns. Taz was already attached to the JLI Australia embassy earlier on, but only went to join the American branch during Breakdowns.
Q1.
Originally Posted by stile
It was a robot copy of MM that died crashing a shuttle into Despero wasn't it?


Yes, it was.

Originally Posted by stile
Hmm. Was this when Tasmanian Devil was recruited?


No, it wasn't. Ibby has all the Taz facts above. I did wonder why we never saw much of him at the time, even though he was part of the global team.

1) Starman (Will Payton)
2) El Diablo
3) Hawk
4) Dove (Dawn Granger)
5) Batman
6)
7) Orion
8) Lightray

Guy Gardner tried to fight Starman into joining.
Fire had a long chat with El Diablo, with Beetle getting bored at the bar.
Huntress & Ice felt that Hawk & Dove were rude about not wanting to join. Huntress has been mind controlled by Max Lord to even be on the team.
Orion & Lightray arrive as real Scott goes on extended leave to be with Barda.
Batman is asked to move from part time status to full time, by J'Onn, but declines. J'Onn is also looking to take some leave, which is why he asked Bats back.

One to get.

Q2.
Originally Posted by Ibbster
On Scott Fisher: didn't he slip into a coma and die during Invasion?


Yes, he did. Clearing the decks for Morrison's run.

Originally Posted by stile
Didn't read much of this run except for crossovers. Did he never get a super-hero name before he died?


Yay! Right first time. He might have only got his name in a previews magazine, but got bumped off before they gave it to him in the book.
That last one is going to bug me until I or someone else gets it. I can see the Mike McKone artwork in the issue like it was yesterday, but I'm blanking on another recruit/re-joiner that I've missed...

Superman?
I remember thinking it odd, that Max mind-controlled Huntress into joining... and she ended up not doing much while she was with the team!

I remember Hawk, Dove, Will Payton etc. being on the cover...

Hm...

I'll guess Atom (Ray Palmer)?
Jay Garrick?
Not Superman, Atom or Jay.
Big Barda?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/22/20 12:32 AM
Doctor Fate?
Question?
Hawkman, perhaps? for a second try?
Not Superman, Atom, Jay Garrick, Doctor Fate, Big Barda, Question or Hawkman.

Of these answers, all except the Question have a similarity to the character I'm looking for.
Zatanna?
Firestorm?
Not Superman, Atom, Jay Garrick, Doctor Fate, Big Barda, Question, Hawkman, Firestorm or Zatanna.

It was someone who has been a member of the league.
Yeah, I figured it had been a past member. Least that narrows it down...

Hal Jordan?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/23/20 11:44 PM
Elongated Man?
Doctor Light?
Not Superman, Atom, Jay Garrick, Doctor Fate, Big Barda, Question, Hawkman, Firestorm, Zatanna, Hal Jordan, Elongated Man or Doctor Light

Cap's Hobby Hints:-
It was someone who has been a member of the league.
This member relates strongly with the storyline that led into this issue.
Gypsy?
Aquaman?
Chaim has it! It was Gypsy. The story follows on from Despero taking his revenge on the Justice League Detroit. Gypsy has lost her family, but declines J'onn's invitation to join the team. She'd turn up in Justice League Task Force.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/24/20 10:45 PM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Chaim has it! It was Gypsy. The story follows on from Despero taking his revenge on the Justice League Detroit. Gypsy has lost her family, but declines J'onn's invitation to join the team. She'd turn up in Justice League Task Force.

I knew I'd remember once someone said it. As soon as Chaim said Gypsy I was thinking "of course!" Good job Chaim.
ah nice one! didn't realize this took place after that bit.
I have to say, until that last clue, I totally forgot about that. In retrospect, it felt more like an offer of "you always have a home with us" than an invitation to join the actively fighting super-hero team, which would have been a bit of a raw wound to her at that time.

In any case: Who were the two umpires (home plate and field) in the super-heroes vs super-villains baseball game arranged by Huntress and Sportsmaster?
Oh I remember that story vaguely... It was a nice mixture of awesome and ridiculous.

Amazo was the villain umpire, reasoning was that, as a robot, he could not lie.

And Uncle Sam for the heroes, because everyone could trust him to be fair and impartial.
Batman and Lex Luthor?
Superman & Mr Mxyzptlk

Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
it felt more like an offer of "you always have a home with us" than an invitation to join the actively fighting super-hero team, which would have been a bit of a raw wound to her at that time.


J'Onn: ? Have you considered my proposal?
Gypsy: To join the JLA?
A little later...
Max: She turned us down, didn't she?
Ibby is correct! I recently wrote an article about that issue as one of a series of posts about baseball-related comic books for a web site about my favorite baseball team.
nice article, CMK! you apply your excellent knowledge of both DC comics and baseball well. I know nearly nothing about baseball, but I appreciated your insights on, for example, Supes/Sportsmaster batting last. and also the implications of Huntress' career, and especially the silliness of two minor league villains having such a powerful transportational device....

ah, what a fun story that was. silly, but fun.

Okay, let's see...

Which two Justice Leaguers helped convince Maya to stay away from her "abusive" parents?
Thanks for the kind words. That's the third article in the series, but unless you ask (no pressure) I won't post links to the first two. I'm not big on self-promotion, I only put stuff out there if I know there's interest, and you already said you're not big into baseball.

As to your question...I wasn't reading JLE at that time, so all I know is who the members were...Hal Jordan and Wally West?
Thanks. I'm not big into baseball, but I'm a comics fan and a fan of good writing, so I would love to read your articles!

re your question: good start, Hal and Wally were definitely there wink was not them though
Well, since you asked...

Royals Stadium Hosts the Avengers
An Avengers Astrodome Adventure

And for the question - Doctor Light and Power Girl?
Tasmanian Devil and Aquaman?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Well, since you asked...

Royals Stadium Hosts the Avengers
An Avengers Astrodome Adventure

And for the question - Doctor Light and Power Girl?


you got it! The three went to India together to represent the JLI. Maya's parents were part of a cult that believed Maya was the reincarnation of Shiva... when Kimiyo and Kara tried to help Maya get away, the cult blasted them. Maya was shocked into action, and left her parents to go with the team that showed concern for her welfare.

Also: thanks for the articles. Interesting how Marvel let the heroes use their powers... LOL at Wonder Man being a horrible pitcher. It's a bit too bad that the Avengers games didn't have as much background detail as the DC one, but I guess the DC one was in a special issue while the Avengers ones were in the midst of other stories, so that makes sense. Love the annotations you put for people who watch the TV series, great way to introduce the comics to new fans coming in from other media. And I found your articles very accessible despite my lack of in-depth Avengers knowledge, you explained the "what happened before" really well!
Thanks, that's exactly what I'm going for in my articles!

And cool that I got the right pair on only my second try.

OK...what did Spider-Man illegally take from government property for personal gain, because he felt he deserved it for his life-saving services?
The Spider Mobile?
Nope.
Money?
It was worth money, and he eventually sold it for money, but it wasn't money itself.

Hint: It was something that was originally thrown in the trash (and was at that time worthless), but at the time Spider-Man took it, it was worth quite a bit.
A tank. Take that Green Goblin!
Nope. (And at the time, the Green Goblin was believed dead and no others were using the name. Hobgoblin was a big presence, and the only goblin, in the Spider-Man books of the era.)
Old coin?
Nope.
Old stamp?
Not that either.

Allow me to say...its value increased not due to antiquity, but because it was transformed.
A lump of coal?
Not coal (that I assume you think turned into diamond).
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/29/20 01:34 AM
A film or negative that became valuable because it captured a moment whose significance was not realised at the time?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Not coal (that I assume you think turned into diamond).


Yeah, that's what I was thinking of... darn...

hm, transformed, transformed...

some kind of plant?
OK, it's clear that we do not have a lot of mid-80's Marvel readers here.

It happened in Secret Wars II. The Beyonder came to Earth, seeking to understand humanity, and he got some insight about it from Luke Cage. Unfortunately, he was still naive, so...caused a disaster of sorts....and Spider-Man helped save lives in the aftermath of that disaster. He saw the government express its gratitude to another party who was helping in said aftermath, and decided he deserved something too, and took it.

Any bells? Bueller?...Bueller? Anyone?
Thanks for giving the context. Never read Secret Wars II, alas....

Some kind of computer?
Nope.

If no one gets it by EOD, I'll think of a new question.

Never read Secret Wars II? Good decision.
Thanks, I will not look it up then wink

Maybe...

a statue?
Not a statue.
I have read a couple of issues. I seem to remember thinking the first issue was a lot better than the first secret wars.

Did Peter get some gold from the building that the Beyonder transformed into gold. Once trasnformed, the building collapsed.
Yes! There was one golden item, but if no one can say before midnight what it was, the next question is yours.

I actually liked the way it began, it seemed like what you would expect of an alien being with no idea what drives human beings. Luke explained to him very clearly how humans need to exchange money for things, and (inaccurately, for the 1980's) that cash represents gold, whereupon the Beyonder "paid him for his services" (almost certainly Luke didn't get a cent of it) by turning an office building and all of its contents into gold. Also, who couldn't love Spider-Man potty training the Beyonder?

But after issue 3 or so it went completely off the rails. I don't know if Shooter actually planned most of that mess or if he went into the series with only a premise, a beginning and an end, but only vague ideas of what should come in the middle which he made up on the fly. And I remember feeling that issue # 7, in which Mephisto gathers nearly every super-villain that ever appeared in a Marvel comic to attack the Beyonder, was nothing but a blatant rip-off of the Villain War, issues 9 and 10 of Crisis on Infinite Earths.

I also wasn't crazy about the Al Milgrom-Steve Leialoha art. They're decent workhorses for a regular series, but when doing a mega-crossover (especially before they became obligatory annual events), a company should enlist its best.
Potty training the Beyonder...? Whoa!

A golden item...

Was it some kind of device/invention?
Well, it wasn't an item that occurs in nature, so I guess by definition it was an invention, but it wasn't mechanical or electronic.
A... model building?
Nope.
A... gold pen?
A gold copy of the Daily Bugle?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/30/20 12:24 AM
I did read Secret Wars II but just the once and can't even remember the gold building incident. I remember the Beyonder choosing a copy of Steve Roger's body for himself (although later changing his hair black and curling it), the Spider-man sometimes villain Puma almost killing him but failing when he doubted himself, using Phoenix (Rachel Summers) to almost destroy the universe but learning from her and the X-Men about life and existence afterwards, and I remember the final battle and his "death" and becoming a new universe followed by the Molecule Man healing the Earth with Silver Surfer's help. The series had some good moments but I think they were more from other writers in crossovers than from the main series itself.

Was it a flagpole?
None of those three.
a pen?
No one got the precise item, so the next question goes to thoth lad, who knew it was something transformed into gold.

What was it, precisely? It was a gold notepad.
Ahhhh. nice remembering, thothy.

Curious, what happened to the notepad? Was Spidey able to sell it?
He was. He sold is through a fence (he followed the cat burglar Black Fox to him) for far less than market value in order to pay off Aunt May's boyfriend's gambling debt.
Ah, thanks!

Man... the things we do for love. He made Aunt May happy, at least.
He attempted to. But said boyfriend died very soon after. In fact, he ran up the gambling debt in the hopes of having a little something to leave for Aunt May because his time was near. frown
Man... that's heartbreaking frown okay, now I get why he did it.
Well, he didn't take it to help Aunt May's boyfriend. He took it because he saw the government rewarding the Kingpin with a few golden typewriters for his help in keeping a lid on the golden building and for his help in quickly disposing of it. Spider-Man got upset and decided that if the Kingpin can get something out of it, he should too. He spent years in the comics agonizing about it until the Aunt May's boyfriend situation presented itself.
Oh, no, I meant I understand why Aunt May's boyfriend ran up a big gambling debt. Wasn't talking about Spidey's motivation (he spent YEARS agonizing over it? what a long-running plot point!)
Sure was. It seemed to always be simmering in the background. It was an obvious solution (of sorts) to Peter's frequent money woes, but he kept feeling bad about having come by it dishonestly, and worried that if he showed up somewhere with a golden notepad, someone would start to dig into the truth. (Why he couldn't ask the Human Torch to melt it into an ingot I haven't the foggiest idea.)
They needed a source of angst smile as if he didn't have enough already.
Seeing his troubles, everyone suggested to Peter that he write his worries down.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/04/20 11:58 PM
Bump Thoth
Published in 1974, which three villains, calling themselves the Titanic Three, faced the Avengers when they accompanied Mantis to Vietnam?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/06/20 12:08 AM
Crimson Dynamo?
Titanium Man?
Both correct. One more to get.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/08/20 01:42 AM
Red Guardian?
Not the Red Guardian, but you're on the right sort of lines.
Mandarin?
Not the Mandarin, but even more on the right lines.
Radioactive Man
Titanium Man
Crimson Dynamo
Myg has it! The Avengers in a story with Vietnam war tones. Over to you Andy!
Yes I know the story well - I have all of Mantis appearances.

Nw Q Up soon
Oh yeah, this was just after Swordsman snuffed it.
Alas, poor Swordsman, he was an integral(?) part of the team...
Which two heroes were present when Joe Public gained his powers during Bloodlines?
Hmm can't remember which annual he appeared in...

Superman
Batman
I'm glad you mentioned Bloodlines. I had no idea who he was. Steel and Power Girl.
LOL I figured I'd have to put the Bloodlines reference in ...

Batman is one of them
Robin?
Huntress?
Azrael?

Which two heroes were present when Joe Public gained his powers during Bloodlines?

1. Batman
2. ???


Not:
Power Girl
Huntress
Superman
Steel
Azrael
Robin


HINT: This was one of Alan Grant's creations - she only appeared a few times. I thought she was rather brilliant - would have been a good fit in the Birds of Prey but Anarky and Hitman ended up being the big breakouts at that point
hmm, completely stumped on this one. Not familiar enough with that era to be able to guess.
Was this Anima?
It was NOT Anima
This was a character introduced in an earlier issue - a woman who was seeking revenge on society and chose a codename reflecting her rejection of modern civilization...
Oh! Anarky?
Not Anarky - this is a woman whose codename is often associated with people accused of witchcraft
Hmmm...

sorry, don't think I've ever encountered that character.

I'll try Heretic
Bah! I thought I was onto something there.

The Silver Sorceress in an unlikely crossover?
Heretic is close
Since no one read this annual (you all apparently have better taste than me) I'm going to give it over to Ibby

The character's name is Pagan. She's awesome. Good design. Pugilist and acrobat who avenges women whose rapists are set free.

Over to Ibby!
oh! I actually KNOW that character! I read her introduction issue, where she beats up the two guys who raped her sister (and led to her sister's death I think). She really traumatized them, especially the first one whom she had for longer. I thought that was nice writing, really showing the consequences of a horrible act like rape. Almost wish she had had the second one for longer too, to really teach him a lesson (though she did a number on him too before Batman stopped her).

She didn't spring to mind because I didn't really think of her as a hero, that issue ended with Batman catching her and knocking her unconscious.

And I also think she didn't appear very much after that.

Nice one, Myg.
For the new Q:

When Crimson Fox appeared out of costume in the Red Winter storyline, which Justice Leaguer recognized her alter ego?
Fire?
Got it in one!

Fire was a big fan of Constance D'Aramis for being a high-powered business owner in an industry she liked (cosmetics). Fox of course denied it...
Huh...and here I had guessed it because she had been a model, so would have known fashion-industry personalities.


At whose gravesite did the JSA gather as soon as (or very soon after) they returned from Limbo?

Wesley Dodd(s)?
Nope.
Johnny Thunder?
Lee Walter Travis?
None of those either. Just to clarify the time-frame, this was shortly after their return from Limbo - they had that ten-issue Justice Society of America (not abbreviated JSA) series (though this specific scene did not occur in that series), and Zero Hour hadn't yet happened.
Superman?
Dinah Lance?
Myg has it - it was Dinah Drake Lance, the first Black Canary. She died on Secret Origins # 50, in the story that laid out the revised, Post-Crisis Black Canary origin story, and the JSA found out that a teammate had died after their return from Ragnarok-Limbo following Armageddon: Inferno.

I have vague recollections of this image...


I had to ask a grave-related question over in TT trivia just to honor this one!

Ok new Q up soon...
Ok... in the far flung future, Bruce Wayne is in trouble on the planet Pluto. What inmate is released to help him?
Jonah Hex?
Not Jonah Hex
Abra Kadabra?
Not Abra Kadabra

Will you guess it in a million years?
probably not, unless that was some sort of clue that I'm too dense to get smile story doesn't ring a bell at all.

Lobo?
The Joker
Not Lobo nor the Joker
Though Joker is closest so far
Ra's al Ghul?
Ah. I just got your hint. Was it Catwoman?


That Black Canary Q&A was a good one.
It WAS Catwoman!

In DC 1 Million, Bruce Wayne is projected into the DC future to take Batman 1 Million's place on Pluto, the prison planet. As things go awry, Robin the Toy Wonder releases the one inmate who can help Bruce - the best thief in the universe - CATWOMAN.

Over to you, Thoth!
Yay! I had thought it was Silver Age Sci-Fi Batman, until I got your clue. Then it was a process... well of not being able to think of anyone better smile Catwoman might have had an ongoing title at the time too, which helped me along.

Speaking of cats, my mistress is sitting at the computer demanding cat videos. A question will arrive some time after that's all done.
Was it the Selina Kyle, or... cause if it was Selina, how was she still alive so many years in the future?
It wasn't Selina Kyle - they never do specify who she is - just that she's the best
Guess that makes it a lot easier from a writing perspective!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/25/20 01:46 AM
Bump Thoth
Attuma sends collar controlled Avengers to capture Namor in Hydrobase. Only, Namor's not there. But who is there, and overcomes the Avengers?
Stingray?
Not Stingray

[sing song voice] Stiiiingraaaay [/sing song voice]

Hank Pym?
Alpha Flight?
Not Hank Pym, although it is a single foe. Not Alpha Flight as this was set before they were around.
Beast?
Not Beast or any X-Man or Avenger
Jarvis...?
Not Jarvis or anyone connected to the team of the Avengers.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/26/20 03:38 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Not Stingray

[sing song voice] Stiiiingraaaay [/sing song voice]

Oh yeah! One of the best of the Gerry Anderson openings. Great stuff!

Spider-Man?
Namorita?
Hyperion?
Man-Thing?
Originally Posted by stile86
Oh yeah! One of the best of the Gerry Anderson openings. Great stuff!


smile

Not Spidey, Namorita, Hyperion and Man-Thing. Not a hero at all, actually, and not connected to being underwater either. It's not a two bit villain though, it's ...
Aunt May?
Oh, when I said it's not a two bit villain, I meant that it was a big Marvel villain, so you'd not all have to trawl (tee hee, keeping in with Hydrobase puns) through lots of second string villains to guess the answer.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/28/20 12:42 AM
Doctor Doom?
Loki?
Red Skull?
It's not Loki, but it is Doctor Doom. A lot of the answers here would have been more fitting.

Over to you stile!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/29/20 12:18 AM
Daredevil feels he is responsible for Mister Hyde's rampage. Why?
He gave him bad legal advice?
He failed to stop a crime that targeted Hyde?
Hyde has come into contact with the substance that gave Matt his powers,?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/30/20 12:48 AM
None of the above.
He put Hyde's partner Cobra away ?
He ate Hyde's cookie?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/31/20 01:44 AM
Nope.

Clue time: This involves Hyde's alter ego Calvin Zabo.
Matt Murhoch successfully filed Calvin Zabo's divorce?
Matt sued Calvin?
Zabo was trying to build a life. Even though it was slightly crooked. Matt was responsible for shutting it down. So he's off on a Hyde rampage and Matt dons his Daredevil costume to stop it?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/02/20 02:44 AM
Nope. Looks like I picked an obscure one. Thoth is perhaps closest, kind-of. One last try before I ask a new one.

Clue time: This involves Hyde's alter ego Calvin Zabo.
Clue time: This does NOT involves Daredevil's alter ego Matt Murdoch.

Also there is a significant amount of irony in the event.
In fact anyone hurt by Hyde in the future could be a bit upset with Daredevil.
Daredevil restored Calvin Zabo's sight?
Daredevil saved Hyde/Zabo's life?
Originally Posted by stile86
Also there is a significant amount of irony in the event.

In fact anyone hurt by Hyde in the future could be a bit upset with Daredevil.


If Hyde uses a potion like film Jekyll & Hyde, did Daredevil prevent him using it to change back to Zabo?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/03/20 04:04 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by stile86
Also there is a significant amount of irony in the event.

In fact anyone hurt by Hyde in the future could be a bit upset with Daredevil.


If Hyde uses a potion like film Jekyll & Hyde, did Daredevil prevent him using it to change back to Zabo?


Thoth gets the win.

In Daredevil #235 Hyde has been robbing banks to support his lifestyle and experiments but when he tries to evade police by turning back in to Zabo he finds that his formula/potion no longer works. He escapes with brute force and later in his/Zabo's lab he discovers that he has been spending so much time as Hyde that his DNA has been altering. He tries experiment after experiment to find a new formula. He finally finds one that reacts appropriately to a sample of his blood but then realises that its effects will be permanent. The potion will revert him to Zabo but he will never be able to become Hyde again. He decides he would rather live as a man than a monster and is about to drink it when Daredevil drops in through the skylight (New York must be full of the things) he has been observing Hyde through, thinking that Hyde is trying to increase his strength or power. Hyde decides he was about to make a terrible mistake as whenever any superheroes or police came after him he would have no protection without Hyde so he smashes the potion and attacks Daredevil, even more enraged that unlike Daredevil who can still take off his costume and pass for a man, he is now "forced" by Daredevil to be stuck as a monster.

The story, by Danny Fingeroth who I know nothing about, is mostly about Daredevil struggling with his dual identity and if he should really be Daredevil or Matt fulltime and the Zabo/Hyde plot is meant to be seen as a contrast, but he doesn't quite pull it off. It wasn't until I looked back at the comic to get the details right that I was reminded of the Daredevil quandary/struggle whereas the irony of his stopping Hyde from changing to Zabo forever has always stuck in my brain.

Thoth your turn.
Good hinting along the way with that one stile. Thanks. It never occurred to him to work on a potion that would just change him into something less monstrous? It's not like he's short of mad scientist contacts. Mind you, he's a bit shy, preferring to hyde away. Tee hee.

She Hulk races into combat to prove herself as an Avenger against the Masters of Evil. But she's stopped by The Wasp. Why?


Wasp tells She-Hulk to wait for the other Avengers to show up?
Because Hank Pym is with them?
Because Wasp realizes it's a trap?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/04/20 07:56 AM
Wasp has this new costume she has whipped up that she wants She-Hulk to try on?
Stile gets it! Wasp has designed casual wear for Jennifer to wear. As it's an original she doesn't want it ruined in a fight. This is while the others are being attacked. Jennifer end up fighting the villains in her undies.

Over to you stile!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/05/20 01:33 AM
You're kidding! That was just a joke, trying to mimic the humour you so often fabulously display Thoth. There was the ongoing joke in Avengers of Wasp's frequently changing costume as she exercised her skill as a fashion designer. I guess this must have been during the Byrne run on her title?

Lois is slightly annoyed at Clark's lack of a common household item and warns him with an amused smile on her face that "things are going to have to change around her when we are married, buster!"

What item is missing and why doesn't Clark have one?
A coffee maker?
Originally Posted by stile86
You're kidding! That was just a joke, trying to mimic the humour you so often fabulously display Thoth. There was the ongoing joke in Avengers of Wasp's frequently changing costume as she exercised her skill as a fashion designer. I guess this must have been during the Byrne run on her title?

Lois is slightly annoyed at Clark's lack of a common household item and warns him with an amused smile on her face that "things are going to have to change around her when we are married, buster!"

What item is missing and why doesn't Clark have one?



I was surprised as well. Really, Wasp? I guess the villain threat wasn't that big, I always had Jan pegged as someone more serious smile

Common household item: an ironing board?
Originally Posted by stile86
You're kidding! That was just a joke, trying to mimic the humour you so often fabulously display Thoth. There was the ongoing joke in Avengers of Wasp's frequently changing costume as she exercised her skill as a fashion designer. I guess this must have been during the Byrne run on her title?


I did find it funny. It was all the better because it came from known character traits. It's also a clever twist on the time it takes heroes to get into costumes while there's a battle going on.

There's also a running gag with crushed cars and a payoff to the She Hulk - Hawkeye squabble when she kisses him to shut him up.

I'm not sure it was Byrne. Pym is in jail and Wasp is on front pages in a good way. They face off against Egghead's Masters of Evil.

Clark doesn't have a shaver.
Hmmmm Clark doesn't have sunglasses? Because he's invulnerable to bright sun?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/06/20 01:55 AM
All good guesses but incorrect.

Hint: Myg is on the right track that it is something he doesn't need because of his super-powers but something that most of us earth humans would need occasionally.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/06/20 02:13 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by stile86
You're kidding! That was just a joke, trying to mimic the humour you so often fabulously display Thoth. There was the ongoing joke in Avengers of Wasp's frequently changing costume as she exercised her skill as a fashion designer. I guess this must have been during the Byrne run on her title?


I did find it funny. It was all the better because it came from known character traits. It's also a clever twist on the time it takes heroes to get into costumes while there's a battle going on.

There's also a running gag with crushed cars and a payoff to the She Hulk - Hawkeye squabble when she kisses him to shut him up.

I'm not sure it was Byrne. Pym is in jail and Wasp is on front pages in a good way. They face off against Egghead's Masters of Evil.

I looked it up and found it way back in Avengers #222, not long after She-Hulk joined the team. Your mention of Hank being in jail gave me the clue. Fun story.
Apparently it was plotted by Jim Shooter during his tenure as Editor-in-Chief. Script was by Steven Grant who I am unfamiliar with but scripted/wrote a variety of titles for Marvel around this period.
Interestingly to Legion fans the penciller was none other than Greg LaRocque with inks by Brett Breeding. The artwork is fine for the period but I think he had definitely improved by the time of his Legion stint.
Clark doesn't have toilet paper because his Kryptonian physique processes food, nutrients and sunlight differently!
I was thinking thoth was right with the shaver, I remember Clark shaving himself using heat vision one time. But ok...


Following the heat vision thinking: a microwave? He can heat his food just by looking at it.
An iron, because his clothes don't wrinkle thanks to his super aura.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/07/20 01:02 AM
No right answers yet although you are partly correct about Clark's shaver. In Byrne's Man of Steel mini-series introducing his rebooted Superman Clark used a curved piece of metal from his spaceship to reflect his heat vision to burn off his super strong stubble, but he did own an electric shaver which he turned on to provide the background sound while Lois was waiting in his livingroom.

A further hint is that this item is not an appliance and may not be in every household but it or a substitute is needed for certain occasional maintenance tasks. Clark has never needed one because of one particular aspect of his powers.
Was it a telephone book? Clark doesn't need one because he has so many ways to communicate with people: signal watch, x-ray vision to look it up, just flies at super speed...
A vacuum cleaner, as he does something icky with his superbreath.
Letter opener?
A hammer?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/08/20 10:05 AM
Still none of the above.

Further hint: If the item is unavailable a piece of furniture may sometimes be substituted.
Also the particular power that means Clark does not need one has not been mentioned yet.
The item is only needed occasionally to fix a common household maintenance issue although it can be used for other purposes.
You could probably buy the item either at a furniture store or a hardware store.
A bed, because he's powered by solar radiation?
A... can opener? because super-strength?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/09/20 01:24 AM
Final clue: What iconic power does Superman have, along with numerous other heroes, that is often stated as the most desired super-power? That's the one that causes Lois complaint. Then think about how that could help around the house/unit/apartment and what item the rest of us mortals have to use in its place.
Originally Posted by stile86
What iconic power does Superman have, along with numerous other heroes, that is often stated as the most desired super-power?


I just can't see which household object super ventriloquism replaces...

? thinks....
Most desired super-power? I read a site once where "most desired super-power" was defined as the super-heroic build (male or female) smile I would definitely want to have a body like a superhero's.

Clark doesn't have a ladder because he can fly?
Good guess Ibby.

I'll plump for his super invulnerability meaning that he doesn't need any radiators.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/11/20 12:56 AM
Ibby gets the win! Close enough and the correct reason.

Lois and Clark were cooking when the smoke alarm started going off. Lois was leaping up trying to reach it and asking Clark if he didn't have a step-stool. Clark casually floated up to the ceiling and shut the alarm off, remarking that he never seemed to need one prompting Lois' reply, with a wry smile, that some things were going to change around here when they were married, "buster". It was a great little domestic scene that spoke volumes about their relationship.

My clues were trying to point to the need to change light bulbs (although with long-lasting LED globes now more common this is becoming less necessary) but there always come times when we need to reach something up high or near the ceiling and Clark's powers made that as simple as walking across the room is to us. What used to be the Superman catch-cry? "Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! No it's Superman!" Flying is intimately tied to him and yet now so common among heroes that so many other powers are what you all first thought of.

Take it away Ibby.
nice one, stile. This really made me think. And I liked how your clues could lead someone who never read the story, to still getting the correct guess (that was how I got to it: I was thinking, which of Superman's powers haven't been said yet and could be most desired? Once I thought about flying, this felt right. It also helps that my apartment has a ridiculously high ceiling, and that the ugly paintings that come with it are too high for me to reach!)


New Q up in a bit!
Probably an easy one - which musical inspired Cyclone's costume?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/12/20 01:24 AM
Well the first image I saw from Justice Society of America #3 cover reminded me of the famous Marilyn Monroe image from "The Seven Year Itch" but that wasn't a musical and even if it inspired that particular image I doubt it inspired her costume.

Then I saw one with her hat and with the stockings I guess it has to be "The Wizard of Oz".
Very close, stile. Very close.
Rent?
nope
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/13/20 01:31 AM
Oh then maybe "Wicked"?
you got it, stile! Cyclone was a fan of Elphaba, and one scene has her gushing over Defying Gravity with her teammates.

I was thinking about whether to give it to you for Wizard of Oz, but it's quite a different bit of work than Wicked is...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/14/20 04:21 AM
Thanks Ibby and I am glad you didn't give it to me for Wizard of Oz. Yes Wicked has its roots there but it is very different - or so I have heard. I haven't ever seen Wicked, just know what it is about. My sister thinks it is one of the best musicals she has ever seen and she has seen a lot.

Mr Fantastic has some news for She-Hulk that he expects will make her quite upset, but to his surprise she is fine with it.
What is the news?
She can't transform back into Jennifer Walters
They're letting The Thing back into the team. Since Richard's team is secretly funded by Fantastic Four merchandise, there can't be five, so she's out.
I have a feeling Myg has the correct answer.

Originally Posted by stile86
Thanks Ibby and I am glad you didn't give it to me for Wizard of Oz. Yes Wicked has its roots there but it is very different - or so I have heard. I haven't ever seen Wicked, just know what it is about. My sister thinks it is one of the best musicals she has ever seen and she has seen a lot.






smile Yeah, and Wizard of Oz and Wicked aren't as related as, say, two Harry Potter books would be to one another. I liked Wicked quite a bit, a nice look into the "Wicked" Witch that we all saw and knew as a villain...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/15/20 01:20 AM
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
She can't transform back into Jennifer Walters
Correct. Take it away Myg.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/15/20 01:22 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
I have a feeling Myg has the correct answer.

Originally Posted by stile86
Thanks Ibby and I am glad you didn't give it to me for Wizard of Oz. Yes Wicked has its roots there but it is very different - or so I have heard. I haven't ever seen Wicked, just know what it is about. My sister thinks it is one of the best musicals she has ever seen and she has seen a lot.


smile Yeah, and Wizard of Oz and Wicked aren't as related as, say, two Harry Potter books would be to one another. I liked Wicked quite a bit, a nice look into the "Wicked" Witch that we all saw and knew as a villain...
I borrowed the book Wicked was based on from the library once but because of other things happening never read much of it. What I did read was pretty good and was a really interesting concept. Must borrow it again one day.
I do recommend it, a lot of the plot elements made sense and they give a very interesting alternate take on the original Wizard of Oz.
Name three Avengers who have gone into battle drunk
Carol Danvers, Tony Stark and Hank Pym?
I don't think I can make a better set of guesses than that!
Carol Danvers - Yes!
Tony Stark - YES!
Hank Pym - YES!


Believe it or not, there's at least 2 more


Over to you, Thoth!
Who were the others Andy?
Hercules entered battle drunk (a few times) and I believe Thor did too.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if more had, to be honest


When I was trying to figure out what to ask, I was coming across these issues where the hero is drunk or drinking - and they are Avengers!
It's an odd way to "mature" the book (though I found Carol's experience to be particularly ham-handed)
Heroes are people too! They're weak too!
Hey I usually have a drink with lunch and dinner - and still manage to work ok ... I'd like to see that without problematizing it
Now that I'm working from home, sometimes I have a small glass of white wine with lunch. And I've also been doing okay. Moderation is key smile
What is Quicksilver showing off to his Avengers colleagues that almost gets him into a fight with Hawkeye and Hercules, forcing Captain America to try and restrain him?
Some kind of battle trophy?
It's a West Coast Avengers Annual... I can see the cover... I'm going with a baseball?
Not a battle trophy nor a baseball. Although WCA was the first issue I pulled from a box, I knew Andy would go down that route. smile So, I switched it for a much earlier Avengers issue.
He was bragging about how many villains he has beaten up?
He was showing off something, but it wasn't about villains he'd faced.
Hmmmm.. you know my Marvel history so well, Thoth!


I'm going with ... Cap's shield
That's a good guess, considering how a worded the question. It's nothing to do with any other hero...or villain or anyone other than himself.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/23/20 12:20 AM
Hmm so if Hawkeye and Hercules are ragging him about something perhaps it is from his time in his youth in Europe - maybe a musical instrument?
Is it a sign that says "LOSERS"?
Showing off... how fast he was?
A completed jigsaw puzzle of a snail?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/27/20 11:59 PM
Bump Thoth
I think Ibby is close enough to not have to pin it down further. He was showing off his powers. Specifically, it was his newfound power of flight. He used it to wind up Hawkeye and Herc, and Cap had to intervene. This was back in the day that every issue started with them sitting around, before squabbling with each other.

Over to you Ibby!
Oh, I missed that Quicksilver had some flight powers. heh, I don't think I would have particularly enjoyed that era of the team, all that squabbling.

Okay, let's see...

There was a WHAT IF story where Galactus won. The only survivors from Earth were the Fantastic Four, plus two others. Who were these two?
Spider-Man and Doctor Doom?
Nope and nope
Captain America and Namor?
Nope and nope

One was a costumed super-hero, the other was not



here was a WHAT IF story where Galactus won. The only survivors from Earth were the Fantastic Four, plus two others. Who were these two?


Not:

Spider-Man
Doctor Doom
Captain America
Namor
Rick Jones: Destined to be Galactus' Side Kick.
Quasar
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/30/20 11:36 PM
Doctor Strange (out in another dimension and a bit shocked when he returned)
Punisher (who promptly found a super-gun and "punished" Galactus away)
Silver Surfer and Alicia Masters?
Alicia was one of them! Human Torch saves her just as the FF make their escape.

I don't remember re Silver Surfer, but even if he did survive I didn't count him, as he came with Galactus.

*********************


There was a WHAT IF story where Galactus won. The only survivors from Earth were the Fantastic Four, plus two others. Who were these two?

Alicia Masters is one

The other is a costumed super-hero


Not:

Spider-Man
Doctor Doom
Captain America
Namor
Rick Jones
Quasar
Dr. Strange
Punisher
Silver Surfer
Iron Man?
Nope
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/01/20 11:52 PM
This is sounding familiar now. I seem to remember Alicia surviving. Can't remember the other. I think this was another story but was it Captain America who had been place in suspended animation?

(Just realised Cap had already been eliminated.)

Thor?
Also nope.

The last survivor was also female (giving three male and three female survivors total)
Crystal?
Marvel Girl?
Nppe and nope
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/02/20 11:43 PM
Captain Marvel/Ms Marvel Carol Danvers?
Medusa?
Nope and nope

There was a WHAT IF story where Galactus won. The only survivors from Earth were the Fantastic Four, plus two others. Who were these two?

Alicia Masters is one

The other is a female, costumed super-hero


Not:

Spider-Man
Doctor Doom
Captain America
Namor
Rick Jones
Quasar
Dr. Strange
Punisher
Silver Surfer
Iron Man
Thor
Crystal
Marvel Girl
Carol Danvers
Medusa
She-Hulk?
Wasp?
CMK has it, it was Wasp!

The Avengers (and former Avengers, I think, need to check the timing) showed up early in the fight. Wasp went in to infiltrate Galactus' ship and was knocked out... which saved her life, as she was safely on it when the ship took off. The rest of the Avengers were quickly killed by Galactus.

The Fantastic Four ran away to a spaceship of theirs; Torch plucked Alicia out of the crowd just before they made their escape.

If I remember the ending, the Four + Alicia + Wasp eventually convinced Galactus to only consume uninhabited worlds
Sorry for the delay - holiday weekend, you know.

What villain forced Reed Richards to put his son Franklin into a coma, and which villain brought Franklin out of it?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/08/20 02:16 AM
I don't remember that story. Looking forward to hearing the answer.
Total guess: Doctor Doom/Puppet Master (in that order)
Nope, neither (whether in that order or reversed).
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/09/20 03:54 AM
Was one of them the Wizard?
Nope.
Maximus and Annihilus?
Annhilus/Nate Scratch?
Annihilus was the one who forced Reed to put Franklin in a coma.

The other, who caused Franklin to wake up, is not generally considered a Fantastic Four villain. But the Maximus guess is close...Maximus was responsible for this villain attacking the FF.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/10/20 12:36 AM
Absorbing Man?
Magneto?
Neither Absorbing Man nor Magneto.
Red Skull?
Nope.
Mandarin?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/11/20 03:04 AM
Is it someone who is not normally a villain i.e. Hulk (Bruce Banner)?
Mephisto?
The Leader?
Not Mandarin, Leader, Mephisto or Hulk/someone not always considered a villain.

Next hint: this villain is generally associated with the Avengers, and in fact the story in question was an Avengers/FF crossover.
Kang?
Molecule Man?
Neither Kang nor Molecule Man.
Supreme Intelligence?
Ultron?
Ultron is the correct answer! Maximus the Mad affixed the head of Ultron-6 to the body of Omega, the ultimate Alpha Primitive and the artificial being now calling itself Ultron-7 attacked the wedding of Crystal and Quicksilver. Ultron's encephalo-ray, which hypnotized the assembled heroes into paralysis, awakened the comatose Franklin, who in turn used his ill-defined mental powers to deactivate the villain.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/13/20 06:28 AM
Sounds crazy, and also perfectly normal. Only in comics.
That's ...bizarre. I bet it even happened in one issue (versus a 6 issue trade)
Would you settle for two? The story in which Franklin is awakened by Ultron started in Avengers # 127 and concluded in Fantastic Four # 150.

(The story that led to Reed putting Franklin in a coma was in Fantastic Four # 140-141).
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/17/20 02:35 AM
Bump Lardy
I'll post a question tonight or tomorrow.
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also 6 heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those six.

We'll fill those in as we go. In one post, you can guess as few as one or as many as the remaining, unrevealed spots. I'll give clues, if needed, as we go.

(Honor system, please. No internet searches.)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/21/20 12:47 AM
When you say story or arc are you including "What If" tales? IF you are I always remember the one with Dazzler becoming a herald. Liked that one.
Originally Posted by stile86
When you say story or arc are you including "What If" tales? IF you are I always remember the one with Dazzler becoming a herald. Liked that one.


Yes. We're including that one.

1) Dazzler
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
I think Spider-Man became a herald once, somewhere, somehow?

and Mister Fantastic sort-of became a herald, not empowered, but there was a What If where he led Galactus to uninhabited worlds (after he, the rest of the classic Four, Wasp and Alicia Masters were the only survivors of Earth...)
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
I think Spider-Man became a herald once, somewhere, somehow?

I think you may be remembering when he was Captain Universe?


Originally Posted by Ibby
and Mister Fantastic sort-of became a herald, not empowered, but there was a What If where he led Galactus to uninhabited worlds (after he, the rest of the classic Four, Wasp and Alicia Masters were the only survivors of Earth...)

I've decided to accept this answer in place of one on my list. It was from the Ultimate Universe and a character I've never heard of: Anti-Man. (I misread it as Ant-Man.)

BTW, I think Dazzler was kinda-sorta in real continuity a herald in Dazzler 11-12.

Yes. We're including that one.

1) Dazzler
2) Reed Richards
3)
4)
5)
6)
How are we defining "herald"? Is it just someone who helps Galactus in any way at all? Or someone who specifically finds him planets to eat? In Dazzler 11-12, Dazzler just helped Galactus retrieve Terrax from inside a black hole. It was only in a What If? reality that she was a finding-planets herald.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
How are we defining "herald"? Is it just someone who helps Galactus in any way at all? Or someone who specifically finds him planets to eat? In Dazzler 11-12, Dazzler just helped Galactus retrieve Terrax from inside a black hole. It was only in a What If? reality that she was a finding-planets herald.

Okay, my source and memory were incorrect on that one. But I feel her starring role in a What If? story as a Herald justifies her inclusion in the list, even if it's out of continuity.

I've since been able to verify the rest of my list, except, perhaps, Ibby's Reed Richards guess. I will reduce the list to five and go from there.

Basically, everyone on the list has either been called "Herald" or worked under at least the pretense of finding Galactus a world to consume or both. Some were also given the Power Cosmic. Good enough?

1) Dazzler
2)
3)
4)
5)
Dr. Strange
Jean Grey
Scarlet Witch
Professor X
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to three guesses in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3)
4)
5)

Stephen Strange was a Herald in the storyline "Herald Supreme" last year in Doctor Strange Vol. 5, issues 12-16.


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed)
Johnny Storm?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to two guesses in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4)
5)

Johnny Storm was a Herald (as Invisible Boy, no less) in the storyline "Rising Storm" that appeared near the end of the Waid/Weiringo run in FF 520-523. Waid also wrote the "Herald Supreme" storyline, so he has re-used the basic idea.


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed)
Yeah, that's the story I was remembering.

Let's see...Thor?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5)

In the opening arc, not yet completed, of the current Thor series by Donnie Cates, Thor is imbued with the Power Cosmic and is the "Herald of Thunder".

Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed)
Interesting, I was thinking of him from earlier Thor-Galactus stories.

One more to guess...the Punisher? (And yes, I know that Galactus had used an unrelated robot with that name in his first appearance.) Frank Castle seems like such a down-to-Earth type of hero, but he's had some pretty far-out incarnations, maybe herald of Galactus was one such.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/22/20 03:02 AM
There has been a cosmic-powered Punisher from the future appearing recently but I don't remember him being Galactus Herald. I will be interested to hear if it is the correct answer.

Iron Man spent some time in space with the Guardians. Did he ever become a Herald?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5)


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man
Ghost Rider?
I know this story exists, I just don't know if you're including it...

Aunt May?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5)


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May


Although Peter Parker undoubtedly, considers her a hero, she is generally considered a supporting character. I'm aware of that story, but I think that specific detail in the question disqualifies her.
Rick Jones? Lord knows he was everyone else's sidekick.
Frankie Raye?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Rick Jones? Lord knows he was everyone else's sidekick.

Not EVeryone's yet! lol

Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Frankie Raye?

Nah, as Nova, Frankie was an official Herald and was with the Big G for more than one story or storyline.


Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5)


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye
Okay, hint time:

One of the incorrect guesses has or has had a significant association with the one I'm looking for. hmmm
Mar-Vell?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/23/20 03:50 AM
Rachel Summers?
Wolverine?
Vision?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5)


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye, Mar-Vell, Rachel Summers, Wolverine, Vision


At least one of the last round of guesses was on the right track, regarding the hint! (If no correct guesses this round, another hint will come.)
Sue Storm?
Hulk?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/24/20 12:45 AM
Nathan Summers/Cable?
Quasar?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5)


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye, Mar-Vell, Rachel Summers, Wolverine, Vision, Sue Storm, Cable, Hulk, Quasar
New hint: The remaining character was the star of his or her own long-running comic.
Daredevil?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/25/20 03:59 AM
Hercules?
Captain America?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5)


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye, Mar-Vell, Rachel Summers, Wolverine, Vision, Sue Storm, Cable, Hulk, Quasar, Daredevil, Hercules, Captain America
Originally Posted by Paladin
New hint: The remaining character was the star of his or her own long-running comic.


Emphasis on WAS, guys. And Rick Jones is the closest guess that I alluded to earlier.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/26/20 02:13 AM
Well I'm stuck. I only remember Rick Jones being associated with Hulk, Mar-Vell and Captain America and they have all been eliminated. Of course Rick has been used in other roles but none come to mind at the moment.
Hmmm maybe Wonder Man?
Genis-Vell?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5)


Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye, Mar-Vell, Rachel Summers, Wolverine, Vision, Sue Storm, Cable, Hulk, Quasar, Daredevil, Hercules, Captain America, Wonder Man, Genis-Vell
Previous hints:

-has established connection to Rick Jones
-was the star of own long-running title

New hint:

The character no longer appears in the Marvel Universe.
Rom?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Rom?

Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.

1) Dazzler
2) Doctor Strange
3) Johnny Storm
4) Thor
5) Rom


Yes! Rick partnered with Rom just before returning to the Hulk title during the long, classic, Peter David run.

Rom's Marvel comic ran for 75 issues, but as a lapsed licensed character, Marvel no longer can depict or refer to him directly. Rom is currently with publisher IDW.

Circa Rom #27, Galactus threatened Galador, Rom's homeworld. In exchange for sparing Galador, Rom agreed to lead Galactus to a different world to consume. The world was the home of the Dire Wraiths, Rom's nemeses. The world proved toxic for Galactus, who was unable to consume it and in fact nearly perished in the attempt.

So Rom acted as a Herald in that instance.

So Chaim completes the list and is up next!
When the Serpent Society was formed, which villain attended the initial meeting but declined to join the organization?
Was it Viper? The one who was Madame Hydra and partnered with Silver Samurai?
Nope. She refused the invitation to the initial meeting outright, and later sent agents to infiltrated the team and take it over (though she lost that pretty quickly).
Hmmmm....I think it was a fairly prominent character. Cobra?
Nope, Cobra joined the Society.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/28/20 01:14 AM
Princess Python? I know she had trouble since she was unpowered and tried to run away but was caught, but it sounds like you are referring to someone else.
Constrictor?
I am referring to someone else. She joined the Society, she just got expelled for cowardice after the mission you are remembering. The person I'm referring to attended the initial meeting (unlike Viper) but walked out without joining (unlike Cobra and Princess Python).
Paladin has it! Constrictor walked out on them, believing that he was better than them and could make more money staying independent.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Paladin has it! Constrictor walked out on them, believing that he was better than them and could make more money staying independent.

I read Mark Gruenwald's run on Cap as it came out. (I think I dropped it around "Cap Wolf".) I remember that a high-profile snake character refused to join. At the time, Constrictor appeared a LOT! It was just a matter of remembering which then-prominent character it was.

Still love me some Diamondback! *sigh*
Yeah, she was a great love interest for Cap.
i've only read a couple of issues with Diamondback, but I liked her immediately! She definitely interacted well with Cap.
Her pink hair was very ahead of its time!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/29/20 02:07 AM
I read them at the time too and also miss Diamondback.
Ok, new question:

Michael Jon carter, a.k.a. Booster Gold, was originally going to call himself "Goldstar", a name which he repurposed as his own company and which his sister Michelle eventually used as her own costumed identity. "Booster" was a nickname from his days playing quarterback in future Gotham City. The reason he became "Booster Gold" was a mishap at the press conference that introduced Booster to the world.

"Ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome..." The person introducing him paused and whispered, "What did you say your name was?"

A nervous Booster stammered, "uhh...Booster...no Gold--"

"The one..the only...BOOSTER GOLD!"

Who was this famous person who introduced Booster Gold to an unsuspecting world?
Ronald Reagan?
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Ronald Reagan?


That would be the guy! Thought it would be harder!

You are next!
Legion fans ought to remember Booster's connection to Ronald Reagan! wink


New Question:

The villainous Rope (see attached picture) was twice captured by what Golden Age hero?

Attached picture Rope.PNG
Plastic Man?
Mr. Terrific?
It is neither Plastic Man nor Mr. Terrific.

The Rope appeared in a title published by DC.
Hourman?
Jay Garrick?
Neither Hourman nor Jay Garrick.

It is not a member of the Justice Society.
Madame Fatal?
The Whip?
Neither The Whip nor Madam Fatal.

The first encounter with the Rope was in a feature that starred another character.
Tarantula?
Johnny Quick?
Neither Tarantula nor Johnny Quick.

This character was never a member of the All-Star Squadron.
Is it ihavenofuckingcluewhatsoever? tongue
I thought the hints would have given away by now! wink

The villainous Rope was twice captured by what Golden Age hero?

Hints:

1) It is a character originally published by DC.
2) It is not a member of the Justice Society.
3) The first encounter with the Rope was in a feature that starred another character.
4) It is a character who was never a member of the All-Star Squadron.

Not: Plastic Man, Mr. Terrific, Hourman, Jay Garrick, Madam Fatal, The Whi;p, Tarantula, Johnny Quick
I think I've reached the end of my Golden Age knowledge frown
Okay, big clue:

The character is female.
Harlequin?
Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks?
Phantom Lady?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks?

That would be it!

The Rope first appeared in Star-Spangled Comics #83, in what would turn out to be the last Golden Age appearance of the Star-Spangled Kid and Stripesy, and would appear again in Star-Spangled Comics #84, in Merry's first solo adventure.

Over to you, Ibby!
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks?

That would be it!

The Rope first appeared in Star-Spangled Comics #83, in what would turn out to be the last Golden Age appearance of the Star-Spangled Kid and Stripesy, and would appear again in Star-Spangled Comics #84, in Merry's first solo adventure.

Over to you, Ibby!


Never heard of her! Must have been a rip-off of Boy of 1000 Faces! wink
Really? In possibly Roy Thomas's worst idea ever, she's Brainwave Jr.'s mother!

Attached picture merry_12.jpg
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Really? In possibly Roy Thomas's worst idea ever, she's Brainwave Jr.'s mother!


That's funny! I just read an issue of Infinity Inc. contained in my CoIE Companion Vol.2 that pictures his mom and dad, but she's not shown in costume or referenced to have an alter-ego. That would have been quite serendipitous! sigh
She later turned up alive as a member of "Old Justice" in the Young Justice series, and had a daughter or granddaughter or something that showed up in Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory series!
It was that appearance in Old Justice which first introduced me to Merry! And, as she's pretty much the only DC Golden Ager NOT in the JSA or All-Star Squad, I just guessed her randomly!

Alas, her descendant died in Morrison's series, right? Man...

Which Justice Leaguer's given name caused him embarrassment when he tried to flirt with an Australian woman?
Tasmanian Devil?
Nope
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
It was that appearance in Old Justice which first introduced me to Merry! And, as she's pretty much the only DC Golden Ager NOT in the JSA or All-Star Squad, I just guessed her randomly!

Alas, her descendant died in Morrison's series, right? Man...

There was a slew of female characters introduced into male strips circa 1947-48. The most successful was Black Canary, introduced in Johnny Thunder before pushing him out of both his own strip and the JSA.

Merry is kind of cool as an early example of the feisty teen girl superhero, which is pretty common these days, but apparently didn't take off in the late 40s. She definitely deserves better treatment than she's gotten, though.

Quote
Which Justice Leaguer's given name caused him embarrassment when he tried to flirt with an Australian woman?

Guy Gardner?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/06/20 06:47 AM
Harold "Hal" Jordan?
Not Guy nor Hal.
Batman?
Nope.

Big hint: The given name of this hero is an Australian slang term
Wally West?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/07/20 03:37 AM
I should be able to get this but maybe I am blinded by my comic history as the names being normal. Only two come to mind.

Dick Grayson?
Lardy has it! Wally-as-Flash introduced himself as Wally, and the Australians laughed caused Wally means "idiot, clown, or clumsy person" in Australian slang
Never knew that. I said Batman because a certain Monty Python sketch had a bunch of Australians who always called each other "Bruce."
I don't know if Bruce means anything, but this was during the JLE days (can't remember if before or after Breakdowns, but likely after)
It was a total guess! I looked at a list of JLI members (because I figured it had to be from that era), and his name looked like "wallaby" which I seem to recall from dialogue involving Aussies--possibly Outback Steakhouse commercials? Otherwise, I've never heard of "wally" as a slang term!
(note: Google research shows wallabies are animals similar to kangaroos.)
I know about wallabies because of the cartoon, Rocko's Modern Life!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/08/20 03:08 AM
Yeah guys being named "Bruce" has been thrown off at a few times. Can't say that it has any meaning.
"Don't be a Wally" or "He's a bit of a Wally" were terms to describe someone being a bit of a fool.
The other one I was thinking of was Ralph. When someone has had a bit too much to drink and ends up "worshipping at the ceramic throne" (i.e. throwing up in the toilet, loo, dunny) he is said to be meeting Ralph, a bit from the sound I guess.

A lot of slang like these used to be more common but are becoming less so as our culture becomes more internationalised thanks to communication technology today. An example of this was when Virgin Airlines set up an Australian branch they called it "Virgin Blue" because a redhead used to be nicknamed "Blue" and Branson thought that was too hilarious to pass up but it has now been renamed to Virgin Australia probably because too many Australians didn't understand it any more.

A common one I still hear is "being crook" which means feeling sick or ill. A very local slang originating in Melbourne but somewhat more spread now is if something is extremely unlikely to occur it is said to have "two chances, Buckley's or none". Buckley was an early convict in the Melbourne area who escaped by swimming across the entrance to Port Phillip Bay, an extremely dangerous stretch of water. He was presumed to have drowned until he was discovered years later living with a local native tribe.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/08/20 03:25 AM
Kangaroos and wallabies are both members of the same family with the kangaroos being the larger more well known variety of about half a dozen species while there are many more species of wallabies which tend to be smaller and a bit rounder compared to the stretched out kangaroos. There are also pademelons and quokkas which are even smaller. The characteristic they share in common is the large rear feet and only being able to move their rear legs together as one, so they can't walk like other mammals and can only hop/jump on their hind legs or slowly do a kind of slow crawl balancing on their smaller front legs while dragging their back legs forward. This is how they move while grazing. It also means that they can't go backwards. We have the Red Kangaroo (the largest) and the Emu on our Australian coat of arms because neither animal can go backwards, they can only move forwards as I guess our founders hoped our country would.
There is also another variety known as tree-kangaroos living mostly in New Guinea and far northern Australia, so named because they spend most of their time living in trees in the rainforests very rarely coming down to the ground.
Thanks for sharing these interesting tidbits, stile. I have a few Australian friends, and they certainly also don't talk like how Australians depicted in media decades ago do. And of course, a look into Australia's very interesting and unique fauna.
I can't believe Wikipedia didn't mention that Amazons have sword-fights on them...

Attached picture WWK.jpg
There was a time when Wonder Woman carried a sword around A LOT!
Seems her sword has made a comeback in recent years. The kangas, not so much, I think.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/09/20 01:20 AM
LOL that image is so funny when you know the animals themselves. I once met a young man from Korea who wanted to know if the video of a kangaroo boxing was real. At the time I hadn't seen it but I have now seen one with the 'roo wearing boxing gloves against a human (who doesn't fare too well) and can't say that I enjoyed it as I'm sure the 'roo didn't either. Animal cruelty comes to mind.There is however a good Attenborough video of how males do fight each other for dominance and it can be impressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCcLMNcWZOc
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/20/20 08:58 AM
Bump Lardy
Who were Rolling Thunder and Beeb?
Some of the Hairies?
The opening act for Great Frog!
Oracle and Blue Beetle
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Oracle and Blue Beetle

That's it!

Barbara Gordon and Ted Kord were flirting with each other online, not knowing each other's identities. It blossomed into a really cool RL friendships that had Ted join the supporting cast of Birds of Prey for a while. These were the most significant appearances he made between his exit from the Justice League and his death in Countdown.
I remember that Birds of Prey story quite well.

Which super-hero's father was a villain in one big crossover event only to flip to being a self-sacrificing hero in the next big crossover event?
Spoiler?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/29/20 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Oracle and Blue Beetle
LOL! Oh I hope this true!
it sounds familiar smile and quite funny
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/29/20 10:54 AM
Wally West's dad? I think in Millennium he turned out to be a Manhunter agent and then in Invasion he sacrificed himself to blow up a ship full of Durlans.
Scandal Savage?
Brainwave Jr.?
Stile has it exactly!
Huh, nice!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/01/20 12:06 AM
Good question Chaim. It just happened to be from my peak collecting era.

What team of youngsters Post-Crisis was written to be the children of the team of the same name Pre-Crisis?
The Newsboy Legion? (ah wait, they were clones, but...)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/01/20 11:40 PM
Yep that's who I was thinking of. I thought this would either be really hard or really easy. Guess it was really easy.
it was only easy because I'm a bit familiar with them smile

let's see....

Who did Alan Scott, Jay Garrick, Carter Hall and Ted Grant visit on Christmas Eve every year?
Ma Hunkel! Love that story.
you got it! and I love that story too, as well as the restoration of Ma Hunkel to the supporting cast of the JSA. And her heroic past is alluded to - she packed a punch against those robbers!
Not counting those members who broke away from the JSA to help found the team, who was the first member of Infinity, Inc. to appear in a comic book?
Fury?
Brainwave Jr.?
Ibby has it! Fury appeared (as Lyta Trevor) in an issue of Wonder Woman before the rest of Infinity, Inc. were introduced.

Brainwave Sr. used the image of Brainwave Jr. in several appearances prior to that, but Jr. himself did not appear until he appeared with the rest of the Infinity,Inc. team.
Cool!

Okay....

If the Martian Manhunter was known for his love of Oreos, which Justice Leaguer often ate all the donuts?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/05/20 10:23 AM
Blue Beetle?
Nope! though good guess, as Ted had a weight problem for a while
Guy?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/06/20 02:08 AM
Wally West?
Nope and nope

you are all definitely thinking of the right era though.

this Leaguer's appetite was not very surprising, considering his physical stature.

If the Martian Manhunter was known for his love of Oreos, which Justice Leaguer often ate all the donuts?

Not

Blue Beetle
Guy Gardner
wally West
Booster?
also not.
Dmitri?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/07/20 01:49 AM
Captain Atom?
Nope and nope

clue: this was after Breakdowns; this Justice Leaguer had a very short tenure before Breakdowns and a slightly longer one after

If the Martian Manhunter was known for his love of Oreos, which Justice Leaguer often ate all the donuts?

this Leaguer's appetite was not very surprising, considering his physical stature.

Not

Blue Beetle
Guy Gardner
Wally West
Booster Gold
Rocket Red
Captain Atom
Tasmanian Devil?
You got it, it was Taz!

Maya often complained about Taz eating all the donuts!
I don't think Lardy is coming back with a Q. anyone wanna throw out a new one?
I'll think of one in the next few days... hmmm
In Secret Society of Super Villains #1, a member is mentioned in a caption as if he or she was in the scene but was never depicted in the art. This character was never mentioned or depicted again in subsequent issues but was much later confirmed to have been a member. Who was it?
Vandal Savage?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/02/20 04:24 AM
Riddler?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Vandal Savage?
Originally Posted by stile86
Riddler?

Nope x 2.
Star Sapphire?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/02/20 10:21 PM
Killer Croc?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Star Sapphire?

No. But a version of Star Sapphire was a prominent member of this incarnation!

Originally Posted by stile86
Killer Croc?

No. Waylon wasn't yet created at the time of SSoSV's publication.
Originally Posted by Paladin
In Secret Society of Super Villains #1, a member is mentioned in a caption as if he or she was in the scene but was never depicted in the art. This character was never mentioned or depicted again in subsequent issues but was much later confirmed to have been a member. Who was it?

NOT: Vandal Savage, Riddler, Star Sapphire or Killer Croc

Hint: Y'all are on the right track, in so far as this is NOT an obscure character.
Gorilla Grodd?
Joker?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/03/20 10:13 PM
Luthor?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Gorilla Grodd?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Joker?
Originally Posted by stile86
Luthor?

No on all three. In fact, Grodd was a VERY prominent member of the earliest incarnation! Luthor was their leader for all of one issue. Joker was uninvolved.
Darkseid...?
Chronos?
The Brain ?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/04/20 10:11 PM
Captain Cold?
Black Adam ?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Darkseid...?

Darkseid was actually their original boss/puppet master, so definitely not someone omitted.

Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Chronos?

Would've been interesting, but no, not until IC/Villains United.

Originally Posted by neopavlik
The Brain ?

No, but would have been intriguing to see a DP foe among them at that time. Brain and other members of the Brotherhood of Evil were part of the larger Society circa Villains United.

Originally Posted by stile86
Captain Cold?

Actually, a VERY prominent original SSoSV member, along with stalwarts like Grodd, et al.

Originally Posted by neopavlik
Black Adam ?

Was later among the Society's Council circa Villains United.
Originally Posted by Paladin
[quote=Paladin]In Secret Society of Super Villains #1, a member is mentioned in a caption as if he or she was in the scene but was never depicted in the art. This character was never mentioned or depicted again in subsequent issues but was much later confirmed to have been a member. Who was it?

NOT: Vandal Savage, Riddler, Star Sapphire, Killer Croc, Grodd, Joker, Lex Luthor, Darkseid, Chronos, Brain, Captain Cold or Black Atom

Hint: This is NOT an obscure character.

(Another hint to come if the correct guess is not made before the next update!)
Catwoman?
Kobra?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Catwoman?

That's the one! She was clearly mentioned in an early scene in issue 1 that also listed and depicted everyone else shown in the art.. I scoured every page of the issue to see where she was, but no dice. And she never appeared during the rest of the 15 or so issue run of SSoSV. I don't know if it was a writer or artist or letterer or editor goof or what!

I was pleased to see the Wikipedia article mentioned the caption and omission. It also says that JLA 119 (2005) mentioned that she had been a member. But she's never been depicted as such in any story.
Cool.

When the X-Men were based in Australia, there was an Aborigine teleporter named Gateway, who did not speak at all for a good long while. When he finally did speak, who was the first person he was seen speaking to?
oooh good one.

was it Psylocke?
No it was not.
Bishop?
Not him, either.
Trevor Fitzroy?
This is tickling the edges of my memory!

Was it Jubilee?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/06/20 10:51 PM
Wish I could remember.

Dazzler?
Longshot?
Paladin has it - it was Jubilee! While she was still sneaking around the X-Men's HQ in hiding, she stared at the silent aborigine, and when he said "Hi!" to her, she was shocked into setting off some of her fireworks and ran away.
Nice! I knew it was around that time... was a bit off the mark though
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/10/20 10:47 PM
Bump Lardy
By Thursday I should have a new one up.
In which comic book series might you have found the Rextab Building?
Fantastic Four?
Astro City?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/19/20 11:08 PM
Metamorpho?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Fantastic Four?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Astro City?
Originally Posted by stile86
Metamorpho?


No to all of these. Ibby is clearly reacting to "Rextab" being an anagram to "Baxter" as a reference to the Baxter Building, and that was deliberate in the source material.
Hmmm! this tickles my mind but...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/24/20 10:56 PM
Is this that series about the heroes who disappeared into a pretend world to save it? Black something?
I was talking to someone about this series earlier today. First time it's came up in years. TMNT?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
I was talking to someone about this series earlier today. First time it's came up in years. TMNT?

That's the one! nod

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, in issue 2, featured the Rextab Building. It was a dead ringer for the Baxter Building and was, I believe, destroyed in the same issue.

Early TMNT featured thinly-veiled marvel references. The TMNT name itself parodies some of the tropes that Marvel was cashing in on, and it riffed somewhat on Frank Miller's Daredevil run. The most obvious and long-lasting riff was naming the rival ninja clan the "Foot", mirroring DD's "Hand".

There were probably more Marvel references, riffs and parodies that I've forgotten in those early Eastman/Laird issues. I can attest to their quality being superior to the kids' franchise it became.

Time for a thoth Trivia turn!!!
I remember reading somewhere that the Turtles' origin was directly tied into Daredevil's.
nice Q, Lardy! nice guessing thothy
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/27/20 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
I remember reading somewhere that the Turtles' origin was directly tied into Daredevil's.
Absolutely true. In the very first issue of TMNT we learn that a truck almost knocked down a blind man who was saved at the last moment by a young man. For his troubles the unnamed young man was struck across the eyes by a canister of radioactive material from the truck. The canister then bounced off to splatter over 4 pet turtles and voila we have the origin of Daredevil and TMNT.
Ouch. No good deed goes unpunished.
Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
I remember reading somewhere that the Turtles' origin was directly tied into Daredevil's.
Absolutely true. In the very first issue of TMNT we learn that a truck almost knocked down a blind man who was saved at the last moment by a young man. For his troubles the unnamed young man was struck across the eyes by a canister of radioactive material from the truck. The canister then bounced off to splatter over 4 pet turtles and voila we have the origin of Daredevil and TMNT.

I'd forgotten about that, but it was totally depicted that way! Gotta re-read that old original TMNT trade soon! nod
I read the opening issues last year, and it stands up really well. Suddenly everyone was releasing things like the Octogenarian Cyborg Dentist Ocelots . My introduction to it was through the RPG, which was also a really good system.


TMNT started in 1984. The following year what creature was part of the title:-

[BLANK] Police
Fish
Got it in one Chaim. Fish Police. It's not one I've read, but it got pretty decent advertisement space in some magazines that's stayed with me.

Over to you!
What super-hero had the super-power to give birth to large groups of quick-aging, short-lived super-beings?
Mother of Champions?
Correct, Mother of Champions from the Great Ten, China's super-hero team. I'm betting she eats a lot of Wheaties.
I remember reading about her. That was... interesting.

Which Justice League member had their book collection shipped when the team moved headquarters?
Zatanna?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/02/20 11:42 PM
Martian Manhunter?
no to both
Ralph Dibny?
Doctor Light?
still no to both

Kimiyo is closest in terms of the era
Oberon?
Rocket Red?
Guy Gardner's self help books?
nope to all

Which Justice League member had their book collection shipped when the team moved headquarters?

The correct answer was in the League at the same time as Doctor Light

Not

Zatanna
Martian Manhunter
Elongated Man
Doctor Light
Oberon
Rocket Red
Guy Gardner
Barda?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/04/20 11:56 PM
Doctor Fate?
no, you guys are going a bit further away
Blue Beetle/Ted Kord?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/05/20 11:46 PM
Captain Marvel (as he was called then)?
Nope.

Big hint: focus on when Dr. Light was a member. I chose her not just because she's my fave, but because her membership gives a big clue!

Which Justice League member had their book collection shipped when the team moved headquarters?

very big hint: The correct answer was in the League at the same time as Doctor Light

Not

Zatanna
Martian Manhunter
Elongated Man
Doctor Light
Oberon
Rocket Red
Guy Gardner
Blue Beetle
Captain Marvel
Power Girl?
Black Canary?
double nope, and Black Canary is getting a bit farther in a way.

Another hint: the HQ in question was in Europe
This isn't another Tas answer, is it?
Metamorpho?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/06/20 11:37 PM
(Ah. I was getting confused because she was also a member (briefly) in the very early revamped JL even before it was renamed JLI.)

Ralph Dibny?
Originally Posted by Paladin
This isn't another Tas answer, is it?


It IS another Taz answer! making Kimiyo very relevant, as the two joined together briefly during the Breakdowns arc, before both re-joining again later when the JLE reformed (Kimiyo as a founder, Taz when the team expanded to become the jLI)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/16/20 05:37 AM
Bump Paladin
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?

Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.

1.
2.
3.
4.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/18/20 01:28 AM
The Leader
Abomination
General Ross
Bruce Banner?
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?

Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.

1. Abomination
2.
3. Leader
4.
Super-Skrull
Juggernaut
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/19/20 12:00 AM
U-Foes
Absorbing Man
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?

Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.

1. Abomination
2.
3. Leader
4.

Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man
Blob
Doctor Doom
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/21/20 11:13 PM
Red Hulk
She-Hulk
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?

Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.

1. Abomination
2.
3. Leader
4.

Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man, Blob, Doctor Doom, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk


Hints:

#2 is or has been a member of the FF
#4 is a villain created by PAD for the arc
Thing (which makes sense from a power-to-power perspective)
Human Torch
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/23/20 12:40 AM
Thing
Piecemeal
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?

Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.

1. Abomination
2.
3. Leader
4.

Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man, Blob, Doctor Doom, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk, Ben Grimm/Thing, Human Torch, Piecemeal


Hints:

Look at how I listed the latest incorrects and see if you can infer something.....

#2 is or has been a member of the FF
#4 is a villain created by PAD for the arc
Spider-Man?
Doc Samson?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/24/20 01:04 AM
Ben Grimm in human form?
Originally Posted by stile86
Ben Grimm in human form?

No. Ben actually is in the issue in human form, but someone else who was in the FF at the time was going toe-to-toe with the Hulk.
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?

Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.

1. Abomination
2.
3. Leader
4.

Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man, Blob, Doctor Doom, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk, Ben Grimm/Thing, Human Torch, Piecemeal, Spider-Man, Doc Samson


Hints:

Look at how I listed the latest incorrects and see if you can infer something.....

#2 is or has been a member of the FF
#4 is a villain created by PAD for the arc[/quote]
Sharon Ventura?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/25/20 09:04 AM
Sharon makes sense. Good guess Chaim.

As for the last one, not having read the run is going to make it difficult to guess. Have to leave it to someone else. Hey Ann your a PAD fan I think. Any ideas?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Sharon Ventura?


Sharon Ventura/Ms. Marvel in her "she-thing" form is correct for #2! PAD managed to shoe-horn in another Hulk/Thing fight in this arc with this twist. (Not personally a fan of this era for Sharon.)
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?

Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.

1. Abomination
2. Sharon Ventura/Ms. Marvel
3. Leader
4.

Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man, Blob, Doctor Doom, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk, Ben Grimm/Thing, Human Torch, Piecemeal, Spider-Man, Doc Samson


Hints:

#4 is a villain created by PAD for the arc

This character share his name with an indie character that debuted in the '90s with a pop art sensibility to him.
Death's Head?
Madman?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Madman?


Yes! PAD's character shared a name with Michael Allred's signature creation!

The Hulk character was Philip Sterns, the brother of fellow Hulk villain the Leader. Philip was a college classmate of Bruce Banner's who admired him from afar and later tried to duplicate gamma mutation in himself. He developed a split personality in which his alter ego was insane and had super-strength. At the end of Countdown, he was left for dead to succumb to his own poison but was later shown to have survived.
i'm going to be googling a bit... nice choice of story, Lardy. got me interested
Donald Blake finds the Hammer of Thor in a Norwegian cave. But why did he go into the cave?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/28/20 02:05 AM
To get out of the rain?
To escape from aliens?
To avoid wild animals?
Archeological expedition?
Originally Posted by stile86
To get out of the rain?

No. Hopefully the hammer of a storm god would be picky enough to avoid someone who didn't like the rain . smile

Originally Posted by Paladin
To avoid wild animals?

Nope

Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Archeological expedition?

Nope. I think he was on vacation in Norway.

Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
To escape from aliens?

Yes! Kirby & Lee got an early handle on Norse mythology. His first adventure was against the Rock Men of Saturn!

Over to you Chaim!
How was Warlock (of the New Mutants) able to defeat the Impossible Man in a shape-shifting one-upmanship contest?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/29/20 03:04 AM
By turning in to IM's girlfriend Volcana (or whatever her name was)?
Nope. That was Molecule Man whose girlfriend was Volcana, not Impossible Man.
Did Warlock shapeshift into the Impossible Man?
He transformed into the release of a new video game. Full of bugs, Impossible Man could no longer function?
Nope, neither of those things.
I think I remember this one. Didn't he change colors, which is something Impy couldn't do?
That is the correct answer, Lance!
Sticking with the Fantastic Four (Impy first appeared in the early days of the FF) which character was known for taking naps as the FF went on a mission?
The building caretaker as the Fantasti-car launched?
Nope...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/30/20 03:27 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Nope. That was Molecule Man whose girlfriend was Volcana, not Impossible Man.
Oh silly me! Of course now I remember who he is. No idea of the answer but thoughts of him always bring to mind a brief scene by Byrne in a Superman comic where the green/purple guy was having a ball playing with his favourite four friends but had to leave to fix a problem in another dimension as Mr Mxyzptlk.
Willie Lumpkin?
Nope.

Hint: While I don't think he was ever an official FF member, he was Johnny Storm's best buddy, and occasionally went on FF missions.
The kid who ran the auto-shop where Johnny went after he first quit the FF?
Wyatt Wingfoot?
Yep, it was Wyatt. He used to snooze while they were flying to wherever.

Take it away, Chaim...
How did Killer Frost come to be (at least briefly) in love with her arch-enemy Firestorm?
Harbinger's ACME powers during Crisis?
Close, but not just quite...
Harbinger got Psycho Pirate to use his powers on Frost?
Wow, I used to love Firestorm, and I don't remember this at all.

I do remember the first issue hitting the rack, though. I was maybe 13 then...
That was it, thoth! You obviously remembered that the scene was in Crisis (not Firestorm's own book, Lance), but it was Psycho-Pirate with his well-established powers, and not Harbinger exhibiting some newly-manifested powers.
I have the 5 issues of Firestorm's first run, and maybe the first 90 issues of Fury of Firestorm. I used to really like those, although I haven't read them in forever.
I'm disappointed it took me two guesses. I'm usually all over Crisis like a white anti-matter cloud. smile

I read the first run and the first 7 or so of the second Firestorm issues last year. They weren't bad at all.


Which villain, of several mercenaries, was the only survivor of an attempt to kill the Teen Titans on behalf of mobster Anthony Scarapelli?
Obvious one out of the way: Slade?
It was not Slade, who was part of a parallel plot line at the time of the question
Cheshire?
It was Cheshire! Scorcher, Spear, Bazooka and the others were casualties.
Man, I gotta read that again. Like, how were they killed? Doesn't sound like the Titans killed them...

... ok, looked it up, Vigilante killed the rest. huh.

Okay, let's see...

what made Plastic Man's son, Offspring, a potentially better shapeshifter than dear old dad?
He could change colour?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/04/21 07:41 AM
He could stretch further?
thoth has it - he could change colour! or color, whichever.
How did Hercules end up on Earth in the first place, before he joined the Avengers?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/11/21 02:08 AM
Zeus kicked him out for lazing around?
Didn't Zeus think Herc should learn some humility?
Originally Posted by stile86
Zeus kicked him out for lazing around?

Nopes. In fact, we first see him in mock combat with someone on Olympus, prior to the answer happening.


Originally Posted by Paladin
Didn't Zeus think Herc should learn some humility?

Nopes. Well, that's bound to have happened at some point. It is Herc. But that's not the reason he went to Earth.
Loki tricked him into fighting Thor there?
Very close, but not Loki.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/12/21 04:52 AM
Did Ares trick him into fighting Thor?
Originally Posted by stile86
Did Ares trick him into fighting Thor?

Ares was in on it, and was the one mock fighting Hercules. But there was another who I appeared to them both, to watch their battle, but with other plans...

When Hercules reached Earth, all the Avengers were his enemies!

Loki is close to the answer.
Was the Enchantress pulling the strings?
Paladin has it! The Enchantress appeared on a cross pantheon exchange trip (Ares tells us that he's in league with her, and knows of her exile. Thanks oh god of exposition.) She uses a drugged drink (tsk tsk) to put Hercules under her thrall, and points him at the Avengers.
What story from another medium was adapted separately by Roy Thomas and P. Craig Russell?
The Ring cycle?
Yes! Under the title "The Ring of the Nibelung", Roy Thomas (with Gil Kane on art) and P. Craig Russell adapted Wagner's classic 4 opera cycle. DC published the Thomas/Kane adaptation in 4 Prestige format parts in 1989-90. Dark Horse published Russell's adaptation in 4 miniseries published from 2000-01. Both were eventually collected as hardcovers and/or trades.

I recently acquired both adaptations, a TPB of Russell's and the 4 individual Prestige albums of Thomas/Kane's. I'm currently reading the Russell version and will eventually read the other and see which I like best. I'm definitely a Gil Kane fan, so we'll see....
I didn't realise there were two separate works. The version with Russell's art is the one I associate with it.


The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!

Captain America vs Nighthawk:
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man:
Hyperion vs Thor:
Giant Man vs The Whizzer:
Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man: Paris
Hyperion vs Thor: Sydney
Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Tokyo
The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!

Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York - Statue of Liberty.
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man:
Hyperion vs Thor:
Giant Man vs The Whizzer:

Incorrect: Paris, Sydney, Tokyo
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/20/21 02:43 AM
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man: Mt Rushmore
Hyperion vs Thor: Grand Canyon
Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Niagara Falls
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man: Brazil
Hyperion vs Thor: Kenya
Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Antarctica
The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!

Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York - Statue of Liberty.
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man:
Hyperion vs Thor:
Giant Man vs The Whizzer:

Incorrect: Paris, Sydney, Tokyo, Mt Rushmore, Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Brazil, Kenya, Antarctica
Las Vegas
Beijing
Moscow
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/24/21 03:44 AM
London
Washington DC
Moscow
The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!

Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York - Statue of Liberty.
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man:
Hyperion vs Thor:
Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Palace of Westminster, London

Incorrect: Paris, Sydney, Tokyo, Mt Rushmore, Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Brazil, Kenya, Antarctica, Las Vegas, Beijing, Moscow, Washington DC
Barcelona
Egypt
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/26/21 12:35 AM
Beijing
Rome
The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!

Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York - Statue of Liberty.
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man:
Hyperion vs Thor: Sphinx, Egypt
Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Palace of Westminster, London

Incorrect: Paris, Sydney, Tokyo, Mt Rushmore, Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Brazil, Kenya, Antarctica, Las Vegas, Beijing, Moscow, Washington DC, Rome, Barcelona


The last one is more famous as a building/monument than the place where it's situated.
Machu Picchu?
The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!

Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York - Statue of Liberty.
Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man:
Hyperion vs Thor: Sphinx, Egypt
Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Palace of Westminster, London

Incorrect: Paris, Sydney, Tokyo, Mt Rushmore, Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Brazil, Kenya, Antarctica, Las Vegas, Beijing, Moscow, Washington DC, Rome, Barcelona, Machu Picchu


The last one is more famous as a building/monument than the place where it's situated.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/27/21 10:18 PM
Taj Mahal?
It was the Taj Mahal! Over to you stile!
nice guessing!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/29/21 10:06 AM
Your clue about the building/monument being more famous than its location helped me eliminate a lot of other possibilities. I know the Taj Mahal is in India but that's it. Even the Cybermen know it's an important location if you are going to take over the world.

A hero (of sorts) is fighting a villain he doesn't normally fight but who is strangely appropriate when Superman helps the hero by decapitating him. Which hero lost his head to Superman?
Red Tornado?
Cyborg?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/29/21 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Red Tornado?
No Red today.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Cyborg?
No - sounds a bit too permanent.
Originally Posted by stile86
Even the Cybermen know it's an important location if you are going to take over the world.

Cybermen are notorious space tourists. There was sod all to see on Mondas.

Head-Fall-Off-Boy

Hmmm...non legion thread...

Martian Manhunter?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/30/21 12:45 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Martian Manhunter?
Still no.
Metamorpho?
Atom?
Plastic Man?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/31/21 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by Paladin
Metamorpho?
No, although I can imagine how he would survive the experience.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Atom?
Squish! No.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Plastic Man?
Stretch! No.

A hero (of sorts) is fighting a villain he doesn't normally fight but who is strangely appropriate when Superman helps the hero by decapitating him. Which hero lost his head to Superman?

Clue: The hero's adversary is a classic Superman villain, who is in many ways a doppelganger of the hero.
Bizarro #1?
Batman?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/01/21 05:38 AM
Originally Posted by Paladin
Bizarro #1?
I can see that maybe but no.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Batman?
Breaking his back wasn't enough? You want to decapitate him too? No.

A hero (of sorts) is fighting a villain he doesn't normally fight but who is strangely appropriate when Superman helps the hero by decapitating him (the hero). Which hero lost his head to Superman?

Clue: The hero's adversary is a classic Superman villain, who is in many ways a doppelganger of the hero.
Clue: Versions of both the hero and the villain have appeared on DC TV shows in recent years, but not on the same show.
trying to think of which Superman villains would have a heroic doppelganger...

also thinking of whether the decapitation was "real" or "fake' through illusions or something. hence my guesses re Cyborg, Batman. but from your responses that seems to be the wrong track.

erm

thinking of "hero of sorts"


The Parademon that joined the Secret Six?
Robotman of the Doom Patrol...and the villain would be Metallo?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/01/21 11:35 PM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Robotman of the Doom Patrol...and the villain would be Metallo?
Yes! Chaim has it!

Early on in post-Crisis Superman comics, there were mysterious raids on various technology companies with some indications of superhuman strength. It turned out that Metallo was the culprit and had been modifying various robotic parts to increase his abilities. In Doom Patrol vol 2 #10 we learn that some these enhanced parts have accidentally be installed as repairs to Robotman's body and Metallo wants them back. Problem is that thanks to Metallo's modifications he can control the parts remotely, taking over Cliff's body and making him fight his teammates. In Superman vol 2 #20 Superman joins in the fight and Cliff encourages him to take the only way of stopping him, to literally rip Cliff's head from his body so Superman can deal with Robotman's errant body without endangering Cliff.

Your turn Chaim.
cool story!
Which super-hero acted as President Lex Luthor's bodyguard when Despero and Johnny Sorrow released the seven deadly sins?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/03/21 12:19 AM
Captain Atom?
Nope.
Agent Liberty?
Not him either.
Vixen
Correct!
I remember that story quite well. Found it very well-done.

In COIE, which hero almost shattered a crystallized Black Adam?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/03/21 11:05 PM
I don't remember that at all, probably because I haven't read it for quite a while and at the time I was unfamiliar with the character. Let's try ... Geoforce?
Nope
Cyborg?
Firestorm?
Nope to both

Cyborg is a close guess...
this might help. Kole finds Black Adam punching (the answer) and Dove. Kole encases Black Adam in crystal... and (the answer) tries to punch and shatter Black Adam, though Dove stops (the answer).
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/04/21 11:08 PM
Hawk?
Nope. It was not someone that Dove really had much of a connection to. One of the fun things about these crossovers, is getting interactions and scenes between characters whom otherwise would not be fighting alongside each other a lot smile
Wow, when I saw the hint I thought for sure it was Hawk.

Peacemaker?
I think Hawk would have fit in really well there.

Not Peacemaker, though I can see him doing that too. Peacemaker had another scene later on with the E-2 Green Arrow dying, and Halo and Starman saving Peacemaker from a Shadow Demon!
I'll go with an Ibby Classic: Dr. Light (Kimiyo)?
Silver Scarab?
Robotman
Thothy and his amazing memory have it!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/06/21 02:58 AM
Wow! Robotman? I don't remember that at all! Good job Thoth.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/15/21 12:27 AM
Bump Thoth
All over crisis like a white anti matter cloud...

What was Iron Man's advice to the replacement Avengers when he, Jan, Hank and um...Donald? left.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/24/21 01:09 AM
Rely on each other?
Settle arguments immediately and in a civil way?
Neither of these. Bickering was an Avengers past time. This was a specific objective.
to... beat up... the Mandarin...?
Not to battle a villain, almost the opposite.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/24/21 11:12 PM
Find the Hulk?
stile has it. Tony advised them to find and recruit the Hulk for his power. Over to you stile!
nice going!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/25/21 11:30 PM
Thanks. I can vaguely remember the scene. Your clues helped point in the right direction Thoth.

Batman is saddened and angered by the death of a famous musician. He investigates what he suspects is foul play and discovers a hunt for hidden treasure but in the end the treasure is lost. How is a mardi gras to blame?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/25/21 11:36 PM
Thanks. I can vaguely remember the scene. Your clues helped point in the right direction Thoth.

Batman is saddened and angered by the death of a famous musician. He investigates what he suspects is foul play and discovers a hunt for hidden treasure but in the end the treasure is lost. How is a mardi gras to blame?

(I will add that is THE Mardi Gras in New Orleans and involves another subject that the city is famous for.)
Mardi Gras - the treasure got swept up in the parade and dispersed through all the attendees?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/26/21 11:28 PM
Not correct but a good try.

Try thinking about something New Orleans is known for (besides Mardi Gras).
The treasure got... um... it fell into a pot of gumbo and got dissolved?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/28/21 02:41 AM
No gumbo is not the New Orleans thing I am looking for.
Originally Posted by stile86
Not correct but a good try.

Try thinking about something New Orleans is known for (besides Mardi Gras).

Ummmm....voodoo?
Gambit stole it? tongue
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/01/21 01:19 AM
okay some clues are in order. Just to check that I was remembering right, I Iooked up the wikipedia entry for New Orleans and found what I was thinking of mentioned prominently. Go have a look and we can work from there.
The treasure was gold that was melted into a jazz saxophone?
it fell into the water?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/02/21 01:46 AM
Chaim is closest, correctly guessing that a brass instrument is the connection. The murdered man was indeed a jazz musician and his instrument is important.

See where you can go from there.
I feel that this is kissing my memories. Maybe a Conway/late '70s/early '80s story? Or perhaps someone else from the same time frame like Wein or O'Neil.... hmmm
were the directions to the treasure hidden in the instrument?
The musician was killed by a poisoned blow dart launched from a jazz instrument, but returned from the dead to play a couple of nights at a club following a voodoo ceremony. His battle with Bats occurred atop a streetcar, before Bats escaped a sudden flood aboard a steamboat.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The musician was killed by a poisoned blow dart launched from a jazz instrument, but returned from the dead to play a couple of nights at a club following a voodoo ceremony. His battle with Bats occurred atop a streetcar, before Bats escaped a sudden flood aboard a steamboat.

No alligators?
Not in that issue. It's the *following* issue where the steamboat runs aground and they end up surviving on their gumbo rations against the alligators in the swamp.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/03/21 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The musician was killed by a poisoned blow dart launched from a jazz instrument, but returned from the dead to play a couple of nights at a club following a voodoo ceremony. His battle with Bats occurred atop a streetcar, before Bats escaped a sudden flood aboard a steamboat.
Yes! Absolutely. How did you guess? Let me just check the details in the comic ... oh ... wait ... sorry Thoth I must have been remembering a fever dream brought on by lead-poisoning.

Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
were the directions to the treasure hidden in the instrument?
Well done Ibby! Exactly correct. The musician was killed to steal his trumpet which apparently had a map engraved in it to a lost gold mine. The villain manages to get the trumpet but while running away from Batman is caught up in the Mardi Gras. The trumpet is dropped, stomped over by hundreds of feet, and the map - if it ever existed - is lost.

Originally Posted by Paladin
I feel that this is kissing my memories. Maybe a Conway/late '70s/early '80s story? Or perhaps someone else from the same time frame like Wein or O'Neil.... hmmm
Right on track. According to the DC wiki:
Quote
This story was the first Batman story written by Dennis O'Neil. It was written as an assignment for Julius Schwartz in the late 60s, but the style did not fit the camp style of that decade. For this reason it was delayed until this publication date.
It was published in Batman #224 in mid-1970. I read it years ago in a black-and-white reprint and it is one of the Batman stories that stuck in my head. I rather liked the "detective Batman" stories with just a touch of the creepy or macabre which ran around then. They made him a very interesting somewhat mysterious and yet still somewhat believable figure.

Ibby you're up.
wow! lucky guess... the real resolution is almost as funny/zany as thoth's idea wink

tee hee I like the gentle sarcasm stile re fever dream tongue

lessee...

which two female Justice Leaguers infuriated Maxima so much, that she succumbed to Eclipso?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/03/21 11:38 PM
Read this but can't remember. Guy Gardner and Booster Gold?
Blue Beetle and Booster Gold?
Guys, the question specified "female" Leaguers!

Fire and Ice?
points to Lardy for reading very well tongue

Lardy has 1 correct!

which two female Justice Leaguers infuriated Maxima so much, that she succumbed to Eclipso?
Fire and Doctor Light
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/04/21 11:53 PM
Time to get my reading specs checked! Power Girl and Crimson Fox?
Yeah, I had my x-ray spex on. Not by mistake though. If you had a pair, you'd not take 'em off either.
Depends on what I was looking at smile

which two female Justice Leaguers infuriated Maxima so much, that she succumbed to Eclipso?

Lardy: Fire and Ice: 1 correct
thothy: Fire and Dr. Light: 0 correct
stile: Power Girl and Crimson Fox: 0 correct
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/05/21 11:28 PM
Fire and Huntress?
Ice and Mary Marvel?
still no two correct. one of the two correct answers has never been guessed yet.

more hints:

1) This character was not a fully active Leaguer at the time of the story (though was one before, and would soon be one again)
2) Maxima's anger was also mixed with jealousy over Superman

which two female Justice Leaguers infuriated Maxima so much, that she succumbed to Eclipso?

Fire and Ice: 1 correct
Fire and Dr. Light: 0 correct
Power Girl and Crimson Fox: 0 correct
Fire and Huntress: 0 Correct
Ice and Mary Marvel: 1 correct
Ice and Wonder Woman?
Lardy has it!

Eclipso used Maxima's jealousy against her. Wonder Woman guest-starred at the time.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Lardy has it!

Eclipso used Maxima's jealousy against her. Wonder Woman guest-starred at the time.

Cool! I didn't recall the story, but once I had one guess confirmed, it was a process of elimination!
In 1983 and 1984, DC published 2 stories that were essentially alternate takes on a character's return from the situation they were last seen in. The second was labeled an "Imaginary story" on the splash page in deference to the prior published story. Both stories were drawn by the same artist. What character's return did both stories depict?
trying to think of who returned in the years before COIE... Martian Manhunter maybe?

Originally Posted by Paladin
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Lardy has it!

Eclipso used Maxima's jealousy against her. Wonder Woman guest-starred at the time.

Cool! I didn't recall the story, but once I had one guess confirmed, it was a process of elimination!


good guessing wink and Wonder Woman is certainly one of those who could make anyone pining for Superman jealous!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/09/21 12:14 AM
Atom (Ray Palmer)?
In 1983 and 1984, DC published 2 stories that were essentially alternate takes on a character's return from the situation they were last seen in. The second was labeled an "Imaginary story" on the splash page in deference to the prior published story. Both stories were drawn by the same artist. What character's return did both stories depict?

Not: Martian Manhunter or Atom (Ray Palmer)
In 1983 and 1984, DC published 2 stories that were essentially alternate takes on a character's return from the situation they were last seen in. The second was labeled an "Imaginary story" on the splash page in deference to the prior published story. Both stories were drawn by the same artist. What character's return did both stories depict?

Not: Martian Manhunter or Atom (Ray Palmer)
Alfred?
Wonder Woman?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/10/21 11:48 PM
Elongated Man?
In 1983 and 1984, DC published 2 stories that were essentially alternate takes on a character's return from the situation they were last seen in. The second was labeled an "Imaginary story" on the splash page in deference to the prior published story. Both stories were drawn by the same artist. What character's return did both stories depict?

Not: Martian Manhunter, Atom (Ray Palmer), Alfred Pennyworth, Wonder Woman or Elongated Man

Hint: When last seen, just over a year prior to the 1983 return, this character had been trapped, seemingly forever.
Darkseid?
Brainiac?
Despero?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/11/21 11:53 PM
Metamorpho?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Brainiac?

Yes!

Brainiac got his robotic revamp (complete with skull ship) in Action Comics 544, the same issue that debuted Luthor in his new warsuit. Last we had seen, he was trapped in the core of an artificial planet called the Planet-Eater. His revamp picks up from that point and sets up his new status quo. The next year, Superman Special #2 comes with the "imaginary story" disclaimer. This story picks up from Brainiac escaping being trapped, but he retains his former appearance. I suspect the latter story may have been produced first but was scrapped when the idea to revamp him came up. It just makes sense.

Gil Kane drew both stories.
Robin is forced to participate in a classic western high-noon pistol showdown against the (modern, villainous) Trigger Twins. Given that Robin would not shoot anyone with a gun, what did he "draw" to defeat them?
The curtains, and hid behind them.
His cape?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/12/21 11:03 PM
Batarang?
None of those. Cape is close, though what he used (IIRC) was a serape/poncho (in the classic Eastwood fashion) rather than his costume cape. But what I mean by "draw" is what did he use as his weapon to win the duel - he didn't literally draw it. But it was hidden behind his serape, which he did draw aside at the time.
His finger?
No. It's getting obvious that this is one story that no one here remembers, so if I don't get a correct answer by tonight, I'll just give in. But I remember that scene as being pretty brilliant.

BTW, that last part of my statement works as a hint...though not originally intended as such.
A flashlight?

I vaguely remember the scene, and I remember being impressed at Robin's cleverness - just that the details escape me.
The flashlight is the right general idea...just bear in mind that the duel was at the iconically-western time of high noon.
A mirror!
Flare gun? lol smile
thoth remembered (or figured it out)!

At high noon, Robin (and two associates) threw open their serapes, to reveal mirrors, which reflected the blinding sun into the Trigger Twins' eyes...enabling the heroes to non-lethally defeat the villainous gunslingers.

One of the more fun "Pulp Fiction" Annuals, the first set of themed annuals in a while that the Legion series did not participate in...though it could have been very entertaining if they had. Way, way, way better possibilities than the idiotic "Legends of the Dead Earth" from the year prior.
Alas, all my credit is removed by 1)the giant hint and 2) having not read the comic, I think it's been at least in one film.
ah, I must have confused this for another story. I remember one story where Robin pretended he had a gun under his cape, only for it to be his finger or something.
What inspired the Scarecrow to become one of Iron Man's enemies?
Oh, a different Scarecrow I think

Iron Man's expressionless armor, made Scarecrow want to challenge himself/herself to cause fear?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/23/21 11:10 PM
One of Tony Stark's companies caused his to go bankrupt?
This scarecrow is not fear based and had no business dealings with Stark.
He really really liked gadgets and was envious of Iron Man's genius?
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/25/21 02:55 PM
A writer or artist made a mistake and chose the wrong Scarecrow? smile (Just kidding I have a grand total of 2 Iron Man solo comics out of my 10,000 comics or so and both feature Doctor Doom. I'm sure I have read any OHOTMU entry this guy may have had, but can't remember more than that there were at least two scarecrows.)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/26/21 01:34 AM
He saw him on the tele?
What inspired the Scarecrow to become one of Iron Man's enemies?

He really really liked gadgets and was envious of Iron Man's genius - This Scarecrow was not a gadgeteer nor was he envious of Iron Man.~
A writer or artist made a mistake and chose the wrong Scarecrow - Not a writing/art error
He saw him on the tele - He didn't see Iron Man on the tele. But the answer is along that run of the mill, reaction to something Iron Man did.



Not
Iron Man's expressionless armor, made Scarecrow want to challenge himself/herself to cause fear - Also this Scarecrow is not fear based.
One of Tony Stark's companies caused his to go bankrupt - Also this villain has no business dealings with Stark
Did Iron Man, i dunno, destroy some farmland, which made Scarecrow angry because he was a farmer?
Did Scarecrow stand for anti-industrialism, since ol' Shellhead symbolizes industrialism?
What inspired the Scarecrow to become one of Iron Man's enemies?

Did Iron Man, i dunno, destroy some farmland, which made Scarecrow angry because he was a farmer? - Scarecrow was working in the city when he decided to adopt that identity. He has no real farm connections
Did Scarecrow stand for anti-industrialism, since ol' Shellhead symbolizes industrialism? - The Scarecrow isn't terribly opposed to anything Iron Man stands for.

Iron Man was doing something routine for him, when he encountered Scarecrow.


Not:-
Iron Man's expressionless armor, made Scarecrow want to challenge himself/herself to cause fear - Also this Scarecrow is not fear based.
One of Tony Stark's companies caused his to go bankrupt - Also this villain has no business dealings with Stark
He really really liked gadgets and was envious of Iron Man's genius - This Scarecrow was not a gadgeteer nor was he envious of Iron Man.~
A writer or artist made a mistake and chose the wrong Scarecrow - Not a writing/art error
He saw him on the tele - He didn't see Iron Man on the tele. But the answer is along that run of the mill, reaction to something Iron Man did.
Scarecrow was some sort of communist and saw Iron Man as a defender of capitalism???
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/29/21 12:05 AM
(Dropping out because I accidentally read the answer and cheated.)
What inspired the Scarecrow to become one of Iron Man's enemies?


Originally Posted by Ibby
Scarecrow was some sort of communist and saw Iron Man as a defender of capitalism??? - Scarecrow was a contortionist act when he encountered Iron man. I think he did end the issue in Cuba, but it's not related to the answer. smile.

Originally Posted by stile
(Dropping out because I accidentally read the answer and cheated.)
Don't let that stop you, if this one is going on a bit. smile

Not:-
Iron Man's expressionless armor, made Scarecrow want to challenge himself/herself to cause fear - Also this Scarecrow is not fear based.
One of Tony Stark's companies caused his to go bankrupt - Also this villain has no business dealings with Stark
He really really liked gadgets and was envious of Iron Man's genius - This Scarecrow was not a gadgeteer nor was he envious of Iron Man.~
A writer or artist made a mistake and chose the wrong Scarecrow - Not a writing/art error
He saw him on the tele - He didn't see Iron Man on the tele. But the answer is along that run of the mill, reaction to something Iron Man did.
Did Iron Man, i dunno, destroy some farmland, which made Scarecrow angry because he was a farmer? - Scarecrow was working in the city when he decided to adopt that identity. He has no real farm connections
Did Scarecrow stand for anti-industrialism, since ol' Shellhead symbolizes industrialism? - The Scarecrow isn't terribly opposed to anything Iron Man stands for.
Iron Man was doing something routine for him, when he encountered Scarecrow.
Iron Man was fitting a villain, and the battle injured Scarecrow/someone close to him, or damaged his property, causing him to seek revenge?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/07/21 10:50 PM
It's been a week so I guess I will pop in the answer.

Soon-to-become Scarecrow saw Iron Man chasing a villain (thief?) and used his contortionist abilities to stop the thief, allowing Iron Man to catch him. This inspired him to use his abilities for the force of ... uh ... himself and become the Scarecrow.

Bit of a twist on the idea of being inspired to heroics by helping a hero in action.
huh! interesting...! thanks, stile.

I think moving on, either you could ask a question, or thoth could ask another question. I am neutral as to which one we do.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/16/21 12:35 AM
Guess it's my turn.

Jimmy Olsen has quite a few interesting moments with Supergirl in the Silver Age, including an "imaginary" story where they get married before he even knows Supergirl exists, but what was the first situation on which they kissed?
Their wedding?
Kissing booth?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/16/21 11:22 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Their wedding?
No, that happens later in an imaginary story.
Originally Posted by Paladin
Kissing booth?
That would certainly fit with the period but no.
In case it prompts any memories, this happens in the dark so Jimmy can't actually see who he is kissing.
Mistaken identity? Like maybe, he thought he was kissing Lucy or someone else, but it was dark?
was mind control involved?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/18/21 02:36 AM
Originally Posted by Paladin
Mistaken identity? Like maybe, he thought he was kissing Lucy or someone else, but it was dark?
No. The darkness was to hide Supergirl's identity from Jimmy becuase her existence had not yet been revealed, but Jimmy thought it was to hide Jimmy from whoever the girl was. (That's another clue by the way.)
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
was mind control involved?
No mind control. Supergirl was a willing participant and hoped that her kiss would help Jimmy. (And another clue)
Was it a mystery date type thing?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/19/21 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Was it a mystery date type thing?
No.

Think about the very "special" things that used to happen to Jimmy all the time and then how a kiss might help.
Did Jimmy turn into a frog or something? and the kiss was meant to turn him back into a human?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/20/21 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Did Jimmy turn into a frog or something? and the kiss was meant to turn him back into a human?
That'll do. Jimmy drank an ancient mystic potion that turned him in to a wolf-man at night and could only be cured by the "willing kiss of a beautiful maiden". He made it through a few nights without Lucy or anyone else discovering his secret thanks to a costume party and a horror movie set but was about to give up when Superman brought "Miss X" to kiss him. Jimmy thought they kissed in the dark so Miss X wouldn't see his "hideous" face but it was actually to keep Jimmy from seeing her as Supergirl since she was still Superman's secret weapon at this stage. In a final panel Jimmy gives Lucy a kiss but only on the cheek as he is thinking "Will I ever meet and kiss Miss X again? Sigh!". (Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen v1 #044)

The writers thought it was such a good plot that they revisited it a few issues later. This time Miss X's kiss (Supergirl is shown thinking "Jimmy's nice! I'm glad I can help him!") didn't work and neither did kisses from Lois, Lucy, Lana and even Lori the mermaid. This was because his transformation was thanks to Mr Mxyzptlk who had fallen for Lucy and wanted Jimmy out of the picture. Jimmy was cured by a kiss from a small woman who turned out to be Miss Gzptlsnz, the girlfriend of Mr Mxyzptlk from the 5th Dimension. She used her magic to cure Jimmy, tricked Mxy into saying his name backwards, and happily returned to the 5th Dimension promising to nag her two-timing boyfriend for the next 90 days. A final panel shows Jimmy asking Lucy for a kiss but she declares he has had enough kisses over the last few days to last months. (Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen v1 #052)

Our fellow forum poster Comicsarcheology does a review of both comics including showing several panels on his website if you are curious. http://comicsarcheology.com/index.php/2020/09/10/jimmy-olsen-44/

Your turn Ibby.
These sound quite nice! thanks stile, for the write up and the link. I do appreciate that you always give such background on the questions after.

Lessee...

Who did Silver Sorceress disguise herself as, in Justice League Europe's battle against the Extremists?
Crimson Fox?
You got it!
Who turned Rachel Summers into a "Hound" before she came back to the present to join the X-Men?
Nimrod?
Nope.
Ahab?
Call me Ishmael, for Ahab is the correct answer!
whoo! lucky guess, based on my very limited knowledge of that era...

Who did Sue Dibny once impersonate, as part of a birthday surprise for husband Ralph?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/24/21 12:46 AM
I remember that form the JL Europe days, an annual I think. Now who was it? I think it was Ice?
You got it! It was as Ice. Sue faked her own kidnapping... and a bunch of Leaguers showed up to help (they were all in on the surprise). Sue masqueraded as Ice. What tipped Ralph off was that Sue-Ice never spoke; plus she used an oil can to derail a giant toy train instead of using her ice powers.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/25/21 12:38 AM
That was a fun story.

Superman is being entranced by the appearance of three of his past loves but Lois is sure he is being tricked. How does she break the "spell"?
definitely was!

Hmmm...

Lois... x-rays the past loves to prove they're not real?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/26/21 02:10 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Lois... x-rays the past loves to prove they're not real?
No x-rays involved. In fact her "method" of breaking the "spell" does not directly confirm or deny their apparent claims.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/29/21 09:09 AM
Superman is being entranced by the appearance of three of his past loves but Lois is sure he is being tricked. How does she break the "spell"?

Her method involves shocking him out of his "trance". Does that help?
Does she put herself in danger?
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/29/21 08:34 PM
Does she kiss him?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/30/21 12:42 AM
Originally Posted by idle
Does she kiss him?
Certainly how some would do it but no that wasn't shocking enough.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Does she put herself in danger?
That's the one.
Since they were conveniently at the top of tall building she purposely tripped and fell screaming over the edge. That was enough to wake up Superman who caught her and they flew back to the roof to find that the three former loves - Lyla Lerrol, Lori Lemaris and Luma Lynn - were actually three Chameleon "girls" from Durla who were using some super-hallucinogen on Superman in an attempt to drive him insane. Why? Apparently they were insane themselves and the Durlan police were there from the 30th Century. This was in 1969 Superman's Girl-Friend Lois Lane #97, the late Silver Age when the stories were becoming a bit more serious but things like Durlan lore and history had not yet been developed.

Your turn Ibby.
Gosh, EVERYONE can time travel these days...

I never read the story, but putting herself in danger sounds like just the thing Silver Age Lois Lane would do!

Lessee...

Who does Lori Lemaris save in COIE, before being killed by shadow demons herself?
Peter the Pufferfish!
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/30/21 02:17 PM
Dolphin?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/01/21 01:39 AM
I just looked at this because of the DCU character game but I will wait and see if someone else can guess it first.
Neither Peter nor Dolphin are correct
Aquaman?
Not Aquaman
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/01/21 04:52 PM
Lori Lemaris
Nope... Lori didn?t save herself
Garth?
Nope

The saved character was female
Celsius of the Doom Patrol?
Nope, you?re going a bit farther. This character is one you would expect underwater
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/02/21 04:00 PM
I feel dumb. I meant the merman that supergirl met and occasionally dreamed about. I can?t remember his name. But that doesn?t work either. I remember the scene but can?t visualize who Lori saved. Maybe the female member of the sea devils. I think that is the group Dane for ranch led.
Mera?
You got it! It was Mera. Lori blasts some shadow demons who have Mera cornered, but cannot react in time to save herself... a heroic end indeed
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/03/21 12:19 AM
Yay. Good one Paladin. I knew someone would get it sooner or later.
Cool! I figured it had to probably be a water-based character if Lori was involved (even before Ibby's hint), so it was an elimination process!

Anyhow, guys, give me a few days (max) to come up with something..... hmmm
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/03/21 12:16 AM
Bump Paladin
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/07/21 11:34 PM
Bump Lardy
Who were the last 4 new recruits to the Avengers before the team debuted its West Coast branch?

You may guess as many characters as have not been revealed to that point. The person to fill in the last slot(s) wins the right to ask the next trivia question!
1) US Agent
2) Mockingbird
3) Falcon
4) Moondragon
Tigra
She-Hulk
Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau)
Starfox
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/09/21 12:38 AM
Ms Marvel (Carol Danvers)
Black Knight
Mantis
Jocasta
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Tigra
She-Hulk
Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau)
Starfox


Got it all in one!
I obviously have not been reading this comics era haha
And I, obviously, had been smile

Since Monica was mentioned: The Wrecker and his Wrecking Crew once busted up New Orleans to capture her...purely by mistake. Who did the employer of the Wrecking Crew REALLY want, and who was that employer?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/10/21 12:37 AM
Hammerhead wanted Spider-Man?
Captain Mar-vell?
Neither of those, but Ibby is barking up the correct tree.
Were they after Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel? Was Yon Rogg their employer?
It was indeed Carol Danvers the employer sent them after, he told them "Ms. Marvel" and they interpreted it as "Captain Marvel, female version." (Carol was going by "Warbird" at that time.)

The employer was not Yon-Rogg, but a different old foe of Carol's. Obscure person, so if by tonight no one remembers the story that clearly, I'll just give it to Paladin.
hee I thought it might have to do with code names. Poor Monica has been unlucky with hers through the years... so many others with similar ones
A fun consequence of Marvel Comics wanting to keep the trademark on the name "Captain Marvel" for a super-hero.
Well, a day has come and gone. The Wrecking Crew were hired by an old foe of Carol's, from her early Ms. Marvel days, called "Doomsday Man."

Paladin, you can have the next question.
What character's plans were ruined when the famous barfight between Colossus and the Juggernaut happened?
Um... Vulture?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/20/21 12:20 AM
Mastermind?
Nimrod?
Originally Posted by Paladin
What character's plans were ruined when the famous barfight between Colossus and the Juggernaut happened?

Not: Vulture, Mastermind or Nimrod.
Mister Sinister?
I was thinking of whether the answer would be a serious threat type, or a funny/ineffectual villain type...
Black Tom Cassidy?
What character's plans were ruined when the famous barfight between Colossus and the Juggernaut happened?[/quote]

Not: Vulture, Mastermind, Nimrod, Mister Sinister or Black Tom Cassidy


Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
I was thinking of whether the answer would be a serious threat type, or a funny/ineffectual villain type...

Hint: Definitely nefarious and intended for Juggernaut.
Scourge?
thanks for the hint, Lardy!

um

Magneto?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/23/21 12:46 AM
Apocalypse?
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Scourge?

No, but this is my favorite guess so far! Scourge was popping up all over the place around that time, so the guess was very imaginative!

Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Magneto?
Originally Posted by stile86
Apocalypse?

No and no.

It's worth noting that Apocalypse and earlier guess Sinister were 2 or 3 years from their respective debuts when this issue was published.
What character's plans were ruined when the famous barfight between Colossus and the Juggernaut happened?

Not: Vulture, Mastermind, Nimrod, Mister Sinister, Black Tom Cassidy, Magneto, Scourge or Apocalypse.


Hint #1: Definitely nefarious intentions and for Juggernaut by the character in question.
Hint #2: This character made their prior debut in another Claremont-written book.
Doctor Doom?
Sabertooth?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/24/21 12:35 AM
Madrox?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Doctor Doom?

Nope. Claremont didn't create Doc Doom! tongue


Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Sabertooth?
Originally Posted by stile86
Madrox?

These fit the criteria but are incorrect.
What character's plans were ruined when the famous barfight between Colossus and the Juggernaut happened?

Not: Vulture, Mastermind, Nimrod, Mister Sinister, Black Tom Cassidy, Magneto, Scourge, Apocalypse, Dr. Doom, Sabertooth or Madrox.


Hint #1: Definitely nefarious intentions and for Juggernaut by the character in question.
Hint #2: This character made their prior debut in another Claremont-written book.
Hint #3: The character went after Rachel Summers the next issue.
Selene?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/25/21 09:07 AM
Nimrod?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Selene?

Yes, it is she! (MY next clue was gonna be, "Y'all got the wrong gender!" if the trend had continued! grin )

Selene debuted not long before in the New Mutants' "Nova Roma" storyline that also introduced Magma. Soon after her appearances in Uncanny X-Men 184-5 (the former featured the Juggernaut/Colossus barfight), she would be inducted into the Hellfire Club as the successor to Jean Grey as its Black Queen.

Selene is a psychic vampire and was trying to seduce Juggernaut and drain his life away when she could get him in private. The brawl (instigated by Wolverine) foiled her plan, unbeknownst to any of the other mutants, so she settled for some other unlucky sap from the bar and left him as little more than ashes. The next issue, she sensed Rachel, who had just made her present-day reappearance in comics after the classic "Days of Future Past" story.The X-Men helped save her from Selene's deadly pursuit.

Next question's yours, Ibby! Will it involve the Justice League again? hmmm
Ah, what a lucky guess!

Well, considering I have read few books other than the League or the Society... tongue

But maybe this one: in JLA/Avengers, why did Flash lose his speed on the Marvel comics Earth?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/27/21 01:43 AM
Scarlet Witch (or someone) severed his connection with the Speed Force?
Speed Force doesn't exist in the MU?
You got it!

And on the other hand, Scarlet Witch became way more powerful because she could tap into the chaos magic of the DCU
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/08/21 03:32 AM
Bump Paladin
Who shot Storm with a weapon that seemingly permanently took her powers? And who was the intended target?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/12/21 08:51 AM
I was going to say Forge but then remembered he made the weapon but didn't fire it. Was it that persistent anti-everybody Henry Gyrich? I know the second part anyway, they were firing at Rogue. I really enjoyed that period of the X-Men. Good stories.
was it Nanny and the Oprhan Maker?
Originally Posted by Paladin
Who shot Storm with a weapon that seemingly permanently took her powers? And who was the intended target?
Originally Posted by stile86
I was going to say Forge but then remembered he made the weapon but didn't fire it. Was it that persistent anti-everybody Henry Gyrich? I know the second part anyway, they were firing at Rogue. I really enjoyed that period of the X-Men. Good stories.

Yes and yes. Rogue was wrongly accused of killing a SHIELD agent. Storm heroically got between the blast and Rogue.

That period of the X-Men was when I started reading the book and became a fan!

Back to you, stile!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/14/21 02:46 AM
Why is Danielle Moonstar shocked at the vision she pulls from the mind of an old family friend/enemy?
did it reveal something about her family?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/15/21 12:19 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
did it reveal something about her family?
Not about her family.
Is it of the Demon Bear?
Did it reveal a traitor?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/15/21 11:48 PM
Originally Posted by Paladin
Is it of the Demon Bear?
No not the Demon Bear
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Did it reveal a traitor?
No, quite the opposite
Did it reveal Karma's survival?
Ooh good guess!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/16/21 11:39 PM
Great guess but no. This is one of those trivia questions that either need you to have read the issue or guess in a more general way. You might have better luck if you stop thinking about other tales in continuity and think just of my initial description. The person in question was an old family friend of Danielle but in more recent years they argued whenever they were together.
It revealed something about this friend's identity?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/18/21 05:08 AM
No not their identity. Sorry I didn't think this would be so obscure. Apparently this character only appeared in one issue despite being protrayed as a long term acquaintance. One last hint for guesses. Danielle had known this male person quite well as she lived with his family after her parents were apparently killed. In spite of this (or perhaps because of it) Danielle did not find their "friendship" positive but rather antagonistic. It is in this context that she is shocked by the image she draws from his mind.
Hmmm perhaps Danielle found out that this male person was actually quite nice, warm, kind and friendly towards her?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/19/21 02:31 AM
Kind of. OK, here's the story.

Danielle is visiting her parents and her hometown not long after adopting/being adopted by the Asgardian winged horse Brightwind and henc ebecoming a valkyrie. In town she bumps into Pat Roberts who is quite verbally abusive and insulting to her. While they are arguing she gets a vision of Death hanging over Pat and runs off. Pat drives off upset as well but crashes his car due to a blizzard. Danielle picks up his static filled radio call for help and takes Brightwind to help him. She pulls him from the wreck but he is badly injured and they take shelter in a cave. She is then seemingly attacked by Pat but realises it is a vision pulled from his mind which is immediately followed by a vision of the two of them getting married. She is shocked by the two visions and asks Pat about them. Pat, who also saw the visions, is also shocked but admits that he can't understand his own feelings, being torn between the two extremes. Turns out he has been harbouring anger towards her for abandoning his family when she left to join Xavier. Then another vision appears but this time it is Death again come to claim Pat. Danielle fights off Death and has a reconciliation with Pat except that turns out to be a vision as well since Pat is now unconscious. Hours later they are at the hospital where Danielle talks to an old Native American who again turns out to be Death. Death compliments her on her courage and determination but points out that sometimes Death is a release. Pat was a diabetic who lost his inulin supply in the crash and is now in a coma from which he will never awake. Danielle submits to Death and lets Pat go. The issue finishes with her explaining it all to her parents and being comforted by them. I found it a very thoughtful story years ago and it stuck in my mind so I thought it was more well known.

Let's try something else.

Which character is tricked/abducted to another dimension during a fight with the Hellfire Club?
Magik/Illyana Rasputin?
this sounds right!

nice summary re Pat Roberts, stile. Does sound like a very thoughtful story.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/19/21 11:59 PM
Not Illyana. While she was tricked/abducted to another dimension this happened while the X-Men were just doing their normal training. The incident I am thinking of happened a few years later our time.

A couple more clues. The character in question was the cause of the fight between the X-Men and the Hellfire Club. Oh and Nimrod was there as well.
Rachel Summers?
Trevor Fitzroy?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/21/21 01:07 AM
Rachel Summers is the one.

Rachel has decided that vampiric Selene, Black Queen of the Hellfire Club, needs to be killed but Wolverine is determined to stop her which he does by stabbing her through the heart. Rachel manages to keep herself alive through her psychic powers and drags herself off. Wolverine, barely alive himself thanks to Rachel, is joined by the rest of the X-men who go looking for Rachel. Meanwhile the Hellfire Club also goes out looking for her for less benign reasons. The two forces meet and fight when they are interrupted by Nimrod, the super-sentinel from Rachel's alternate future, who attempts to eliminate them all. The teams join forces and manage to at least temporarily disable Nimrod at great cost to themselves. Meanwhile Rachel has attempted to remove herself from the vicinity since ahe feels she is the cause of the fight. In her dazed and injured state she is met by a woman who helps and guides her on a strange dancing path, but it turns out that the woman is Spiral, sometime member of the government's Freedom Force and later to be revealed as agent of Mojo, whose dimension she has now tricked Rachel into joining as we would later find out in the Excalibur one-shot.

(One day I will learn to make shorter summaries but since this whole thing was spread over three issues I might be forgiven in this case.)

Your turn Paladin.
It's a good summary stile, I'm not sure how to make it shorter.

I'm sure there was more nuance in the comic, but why did Wolverine want Rachel NOT to kill Selene?

and of course, Rachel would return later, as we see in Excalibur...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/22/21 05:53 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
I'm sure there was more nuance in the comic, but why did Wolverine want Rachel NOT to kill Selene?
In this portrayal Logan was holding up the ethics of being an X-Man and a hero. He would and had killed others in a fight but he objected to Rachel hunting down and using her Phoenix powers to kill Selene as murder. He debated it with her but Rachel herself said the only way to stop her was to kill her. He seems to see it as the only way to save her from herself. At least these are the sort of arguments he uses to justify his actions to the other X-Men, many of whom are not quiet in their disagreement. Perhaps at the back of his mind he has already seen one person go down a dark path from using the Phoenix powers unwisely and does not want to see another do the same.

Sometimes Logan is portrayed as an almost unthinking killing machine closer to say the Punisher in outlook but Claremont usually wrote him with a much stronger moral core, often making him one of the centre's of the X-Men, not because of his fighting skill but because of that morality.
thanks stile, I thought it may have something to do with ethics. good summary there.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/01/21 12:42 AM
Bump Paladin
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/15/21 12:06 AM
Bump Paladin
Alrighty.... originally, the Invisible Girl only had the power of invisibility. How did the force field powers emerge? And against what foe did she first use them?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/16/21 06:57 AM
I have no idea but I am looking forward to the answer! I have always wondered about this ever since the Byrne story where Kristoff is brainwashed to think he is Doctor Doom and tries to kill the Fantastic Four in a similar way to the original DD had by sending the building in to space, only to fail because Sue now had her force field powers which she didn't originally.
Developed during her stint as Malice, and against ... um.. the guy holding a tablet with emotions listed on it... the Hatemonger?

I'm thnking the answer is a lot earlier than this, but memory cell hasn't got up yet.
did her powers emerge under pressure? like, to save her life against something?
Originally Posted by stile86
I have no idea but I am looking forward to the answer! I have always wondered about this ever since the Byrne story where Kristoff is brainwashed to think he is Doctor Doom and tries to kill the Fantastic Four in a similar way to the original DD had by sending the building in to space, only to fail because Sue now had her force field powers which she didn't originally.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Developed during her stint as Malice, and against ... um.. the guy holding a tablet with emotions listed on it... the Hatemonger?

I'm thnking the answer is a lot earlier than this, but memory cell hasn't got up yet.

That narrows down Sue's powers expanding to somewhere between FF # 6 (Doom hijacks the Baxter Building) and FF # 280 (Sue becomes Malice)! lol

Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
did her powers emerge under pressure? like, to save her life against something?

No, they didn't emerge in a life-threatening situation. If you think about how a person in the FF's dynamic might explore their powers, this part is fairly easy.
Originally Posted by Paladin
That narrows down Sue's powers expanding to somewhere between FF # 6 (Doom hijacks the Baxter Building) and FF # 280 (Sue becomes Malice).

It was a shorter gap, but this invisible force field pushed it apart...

I've read this in the last year, as well...

Is it Reed's doing, as a way of returning them all, especially Ben, to the way they were pre rocket launch?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by Paladin
That narrows down Sue's powers expanding to somewhere between FF # 6 (Doom hijacks the Baxter Building) and FF # 280 (Sue becomes Malice).

It was a shorter gap....

Yes, much shorter.

Originally Posted by thoth
Is it Reed's doing, as a way of returning them all, especially Ben, to the way they were pre rocket launch?

Kinda. Reed was experimenting on her, theorizing that her invisibility was really a kind of energy projection. He was right!


So who was their foe later that issue? hmmm
I'm pretty sure that the first foe she used it against was the Mole Man.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
I'm pretty sure that the first foe she used it against was the Mole Man.


Yes! It was him. In fact, it's ol' Moley's second-ever appearance in FF 22.

The issue opens with Sue sitting in one of Reed's contraptions as he tests his theory that her invisibility is actually a kind of energy manipulation that could have other uses. Early in the issue, she tests the new powers and some limits are defined, such as her not being able to be invisible while creating a force shield. She later uses the power to get them all out of one of Mole Man's traps.

As I conclude my reading of FF Omnibus Vol. 1, which happens to be the first time I've read most of these stories, I had been wondering when these powers would ever emerge. I had no firsthand knowledge but hoped it would be some time during the Lee/Kirby run. I didn't have to wait too long. Even after this upgrade, Sue was too often portrayed as the damsel in distress in these issues, but I like that this gave her more chances to be more than a bystander.
Good Q Paladin, and well done Chaim!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/21/21 12:51 AM
Great question and thanks for the info. I will have to try and get hold of that issue or reprint sometime.
An issue of Secret Origins featuring the origin stories of members of the Flash's Rogues Gallery used a framing sequence in which one of the Flash's enemies had amnesia and needed help to remember his or her true identity. Who did that amnesiac turn out to be?
Captain Cold?
Nope.
Heat Wave?
Not Cold, and also not Heat.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/25/21 03:05 AM
Mirror Master?
James Jesse, the Trickster?
Rainbow Raider?
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/25/21 11:25 PM
Abra kadabra?
Golden Glider?
All incorrect guesses.
Reverse Flash?
Pied Piper?
Neither of those, either.
Ooh, new page. I'll recap:

In an issue of Secret Origins that focused on origins of members of the Flash's Rogues Gallery, the framing device was that someone with amnesia was trying to figure out his or her identity. This person turned out to be which Flash enemy?

Not:

Captain Cold
Heat Wave
Mirror Master
Trickster (James Jesse)
Rainbow Raider
Abra Kadabra
Golden Glider
Reverse Flash
Pied Piper
Vandal Savage?
Nope.
The Top?
Not the Top.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/28/21 12:39 AM
Weather Wizard?
Captain Boomerang?
Turtle?
Man, this has turned out to be a great question.

Not Weather Wizard, Captain Boomerang or the Turtle either.
Oh, was it Doctor Alchemy?
Shade?
No on both counts! Time for a new-page recap...

In an issue of Secret Origins that focused on origins of members of the Flash's Rogues Gallery, the framing device was that someone with amnesia was trying to figure out his or her identity. This person turned out to be which Flash enemy?

Not:

Captain Cold
Heat Wave
Mirror Master
Trickster (James Jesse)
Rainbow Raider
Abra Kadabra
Golden Glider
Reverse Flash
Pied Piper
Vandal Savage
The Top
Weather Wizard
Captain Boomerang
The Turtle
The Shade
Doctor Alchemy
Gorilla Grodd?
Gorilla Grodd is the correct answer! I'm not sure if the cause of his amnesia in this issue was ever revealed, but somehow his powerful mind transformed him into the form of a bald human being (a human form that I believe he had used in a number of prior stories), which is why it was not (necessarily) obvious to readers (or to Paul Gambi, whose tailor shop he stumbled into, and who narrated to him the origins of a half-dozen Rogues) which of the Flash's enemies he was. Upon regaining his memory, he transformed back into a gorilla.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/30/21 11:55 PM
Good going Ibby. Good question Chaim. I was on the verge of suggesting Mopee!
goodness!

thanks stile, this was just a shot in the dark

the amnesia bit had me thinking it would be a human, but we were scraping the bottom of the barrel so I went for the most prominent Flash enemy not yet guessed, and what do you know...
Which superhero once sang Defying Gravity to her teammates?
Dazzler?
Nope. at least, not the one I am thinking of. Of course, if you can cite a source I will give it to you smile
Are you sure that Ayla isn't the answer for this one? Really? Even if it isn't, *shouldn't* it be? In fact, since it's so fitting, we could all just pretend it is. We could *shape* reality around what's best. Then I could just be decalred winner and get the next question.....

No?

Bah!

Um.... Power Girl (c'mon Pov channelling powers. You can do it!)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/02/21 12:25 AM
Black Canary?
I'm not familiar with the song, so I Googled it. So, if the song is on context...Zatanna?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Are you sure that Ayla isn't the answer for this one? Really? Even if it isn't, *shouldn't* it be? In fact, since it's so fitting, we could all just pretend it is. We could *shape* reality around what's best. Then I could just be decalred winner and get the next question.....

No?

Bah!

Um.... Power Girl (c'mon Pov channelling powers. You can do it!)

It would be fitting, but alas this song didn't survive into the 30th century!

Not Ayla, Power Girl, Black Canary or Zatanna
clue time: this was a young (thing below 30s) heroine.

Who sang Defying Gravity to her teammates?

Not

Dazzler
Light Lass
Power Girl
Black Canary
Zatanna
Kitty Pryde?
Also no
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/02/21 11:01 PM
Donna Troy?
Black Alice?
Carol Danvers?
nope to all.

clue: DC character


Who sang Defying Gravity to her teammates?

- young, before 30s
- DC character

Not

Dazzler
Light Lass
Power Girl
Black Canary
Zatanna
Kitty Pryde
Donna Troy
Carol Danvers
Black Alice
Doctor Light?
Also not her!

I wonder how old her kids are, I think they're at least 7-8, so she'd probably be just past 30 at least. my guess anyway.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/03/21 10:28 PM
Fire (Beatriz)?
Raven?
not these two either.

More clues:

1) legacy character
2) was part of a biiiiiiiiiiiiiig team

Who sang Defying Gravity to her teammates?

- young, before 30s
- DC character
- legacy character
- was part of a big team!

Not

Dazzler
Light Lass
Power Girl
Black Canary
Zatanna
Kitty Pryde
Donna Troy
Carol Danvers
Black Alice
Doctor Light
Fire
Raven
Phantom Lady?
Also nope
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/04/21 11:45 PM
Firebrand (Danette)?
Lightning?
Nope and nope but Lightning is very close - you're thinking of the correct team!

Who sang Defying Gravity to her teammates?

- young, before 30s
- DC character
- legacy character
- was part of a big team!
- was on the same team as Lightning

Not

Dazzler
Light Lass
Power Girl
Black Canary
Zatanna
Kitty Pryde
Donna Troy
Carol Danvers
Black Alice
Doctor Light
Fire
Raven
Phantom Lady
Firebrand
Lightning
Cyclone?
you got it, it was Cyclone! Maxine Hunkel. She had a thing for musicals, and intentionally modeled her costume after a witch's. She even dressed her pet monkey up as a flying monkey. I'm pretty sure she had a broom in some scenes too.
Little bump for Lardy!
What foe used Dani Moonstar's powers against her and her fellow New Mutants in the early issues of that original series?
Selene?
A demon bear thing?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/23/21 11:05 PM
Emma Frost?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Selene?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
A demon bear thing?
Originally Posted by stile86
Emma Frost?


That's three nopes.
Professor X?
The kid from the Hellions who could manipulate people, Empath?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The kid from the Hellions who could manipulate people, Empath?

No.

Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Professor X?

This is kinda right, but he wasn't the "foe" behind the attacks.
Rats. I thought I had it there. The one I'm trying to remember the name of was possibly an Egyptian. My memory cell tells me he was part of an XMan plot involving Storm at some point. I think by that stage only Claremont could follow the plot. Something Farouk, but he might have had a proper villain name?
hmmm Mesmero?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/24/21 11:04 PM
Think Thoth has it. Commonly referred to as the Shadow King?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
hmmm Mesmero?

Nope.


Originally Posted by thoth lad
Rats. I thought I had it there. The one I'm trying to remember the name of was possibly an Egyptian. My memory cell tells me he was part of an XMan plot involving Storm at some point. I think by that stage only Claremont could follow the plot. Something Farouk, but he might have had a proper villain name?
Originally Posted by stile86
Think Thoth has it. Commonly referred to as the Shadow King?

This is an awesome, well-informed guess, but it is incorrect. Farouk/Shadow King took possession of Xian Coy Manh's (Karma) body at the end of New Mutants #6, right before the Silver Samarai triggered an explosion of the compound he and the Viper had been using with the intention of killing the New Mutants. Sam, Rahne, Dani and Bobby survived but feared Xian dead, but no body was found. As readers, we were privy to a threatening psychic contact she had with a mysterious entity, but he was only identified as Farouk around 2 years later when Xian finally reappeared and was shown to be under his possession. Farouk himself was a pretty deep dive, returning from a flashback confrontation shown in Uncanny X-Men #117 with a younger Xavier that supposedly left Farouk dead and showed Xavier the necessity of training mutants to confront evil ones.

But, again, it was NOT Farouk who manipulated Dani's powers in some of the NM's earliest adventures!
Phoenix?
Brood Queen?
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Brood Queen?


YES! Some of you may recall the Brood saga, which which ran thru most of the 160s in Uncanny X-Men. Clearly inspired to some degree by Alien, it pitted the X-Men against an alien race that planted eggs inside other beings . When hatched the host would die and become a Brood. The X-Men were particularly appealing as hosts because their hatchlings would inherit their mutant powers. The Brood kidnapped the X-Men and impregnated them with their eggs. The X-Men were able to avoid their fate, or we wouldn't still be talking about these classic Claremont-era characters in the present tense, right? wink

Meanwhile, Charles Xavier was left on Earth but was also impregnated, unbeknownst to him or anyone else. Inside of him, the incubating Brood was able to manipulate Charles, using his own psychic powers. The Brood manipulated Charles into forming the New Mutants in order to set up more powered hosts to begin their conquest of Earth. The Brood realized that Dani was somehow subconsciously aware of her and used Charles' powers to manipulate Dani's powers to first alienate her from her friends and then to confuse them all when they all realized something else was going on. By the end of New Mutants #3, they thought their foe vanquished, as they didn't suspect it was inside Xavier. Then, the X-Men returned from space in Uncanny #167 and, having been clued in on what happened to Charles, they confronted the now-hatched Brood and managed to save Charles by cloning him a new body because his mind was still alive.

So that's how Xavier was "kinda" right, but he wasn't the foe behind it all.

I can't wait to see what question Ann comes up with! I can't remember her ever participating in this thread when I've been doing so!!!
Well done Ann! And thanls for all the background info Paladin. I must have read these at some point, but I"ve no memory of it. Clearly being suppressed by my Brood implant. smile
nicely done Annfie!
Thanks, guys.

Staying with the New Mutants, my favorite issue of that series, Annual 2 (pencils & inks by Alan Davis) guest starred Captain Britain and featured his sister Psylocke's first appearance in an American comic. One other Marvel UK character made an appearance as well. Who was this character?
Courtney Ross?
Slaymaster? in a flashback.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Courtney Ross?

Not Courtney Ross.

Originally Posted by thoth lad
Slaymaster? in a flashback.

Not Slaymaster.
When you said Who was this character, I was thinking it was a background appearance by Doctor Who.

Braddock is invariably shown leaving his partner, to fly off into danger. I'll go with Meggan, even if I haven't got the spelling right.
I haven't gotten to this one yet, so I'll guess from my memory of Captain Britain comics (though Meggan may very well be correct)...Saturnyne?
I've got an Alan Davis X-Men issue where Psylocke might have joined. I don't remember reading a New Mutants one.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/26/21 11:08 PM
The Fury?
Thoth has it. The character is Meggan, and it's a silent, blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameo (though she is called by name.)
nice Q, and nice guessing!
I've been reading a fair bit of UK comics this year, including a fair bit of Captain Britain.

New Q when I get me to some funny books.
What did Dark Horse have to do, following the events in Alien 3?
Reboot the reality?
Focus on telling non-Ripley-focused stories, with such protagonists as the Colonial Marines?
Go the way of Alien Resurrection? (Gods forbid.)
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Reboot the reality?

No, they kept the continuity, with one excetion covering some of the cast.

Originally Posted by Paladin
Focus on telling non-Ripley-focused stories, with such protagonists as the Colonial Marines?

I think the stories were pretty non Ripley anyway.

Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Go the way of Alien Resurrection? (Gods forbid.)

No, they didn;t run it completely into the ground by cloning the books in a Firefly crossover event.
Originally Posted by Thoth Lad
...they kept the continuity, with one excetion covering some of the cast.

Hmmm... hmmm

The only surviving cast members from Aliens that I can think of who might have gotten "erased" or "reformatted" are Newt and Hicks. I love Aliens, but I haven't watched it for a long time, so I don't remember whether or not Bishop was still partly functional after the Queen thrashed him.
And the answer is in your post Fickles! The series picked up from Aliens focusing on Hicks and Newt. Since they were killed off in Alien 3, Dark Horse had to rename them both (certainly in the collections and new material) to keep the cahracters around.

Over to you!
That was a really good question, Thoth. Without that hint, I probably wouldn't have figured it out.

New question from me soon. CalorieQueen
nice Q thothy, nice work Annfie!
Thanks, Ibby.

My question:

During Peter David's long run on the Incredible Hulk, his accomplishments included turning a minor villain named Vector into a badass by having him injure the Hulk in a way no one ever had before. What did Vector do?
Trapped the mind of a rampaging Hulk in a Bruce Banner body?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Trapped the mind of a rampaging Hulk in a Bruce Banner body?

No, although that did happen another time under different circumstances.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/24/21 12:00 AM
Caused him to fly off into space?
Overloaded Hulk with Gamma radiation?
Originally Posted by stile86
Caused him to fly off into space?

No, although IIRC the first time Vector got his powers, they turned against him with similar results.


Originally Posted by thoth lad
Overloaded Hulk with Gamma radiation?

No. Vector's powers are the ability to telekinetically repel any matter standing in front of him.
The Hulk effectively injured himself as the energy from his punch was repelled?
LOL lol

Very funny, but no.

It involved the loss of matter very close to the Hulk.
I had to recuse myself. This sounded very familiar (with my recent PAD/Hulk/Omnibus re-read), but I wasn't sure if Vector was a member of the group I thought he was affiliated with. When I looked him up, the answer was unexpectedly right there in the small descriptive blurb.
Fair enough, Lardy. I'll admit I didn't name that group just to make the question a little more challenging.
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
LOL lol

Very funny, but no.

That was a proper, grown up guess! tease

For example, I *could* have said that the affected matter that's very close to the Hulk was the removal of those pants that oddly stay on and grow when he transforms.

But, I'm a grown up... well sometimes... a grown up without a guess... it's not the pants is it?
Not *just* the pants, but also something even closer. You might say the Hulk survived this battle by the skin of his teeth.
Even closer than the pants?!

>crosses legs defensively<

Taking the word skin from your post, did he remove the Hulk's skin from his flesh, making him look like a reject from Hellraiser?

No idea how they got that past the comics code.
You got it, Thoth. Vector used his powers to flay off several layers of the Hulk's skin (and the Hulk's pants.) And, somehow, Peter David got away with that, and a whole lot more, during his Hulk run.

Next question is yours.
Ewwwww.

Look, it's Red Hulk. Oh wait, it's just Green Hulk with no skin, and bleeding a lot.

Thanks for the hint on that one. New Q soon.
You're welcome.

One of the Hulk's allies says, "Somebody get him 10 gallons of Bactine!" lol
yikes! sounds gross and painful

and also, Giant Hulk bits flapping around... eek! eek
Grand Guignol -- it's not just an overlong Starman storyline. smile
little bump smile
Soon is clearly subjective. New Q when I next get to my funny books.
Who enabled the world's governments access to the Avengers, where they kidnapped and dismantled The Vision?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/23/22 11:23 PM
Mockingbird, that dastardly damsel!

(I actually am one of those readers that feel that she was hard done by, by both the comic characters and the writers in following years.)
Got it one stile.

In a text piece of the trade I'm reading, Byrne says that he really likes The Scarlet Witch. Then proceeds to make her a focal point for a number of stories that don't go well for her.
He always hurts the ones he loves, I guess
He was very keen on bringing the original Doom Patrol back.
To be hurt again! and again!
A Doom Patrol/ Phoenix crossover would have been high on his to do list.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/24/22 11:34 PM
Don't forget that Byrne wrote Reed and Sue's second child being stillborn. It was 19 years later that other writers retconned this to have Franklin save her to be eventually born as Valeria. Byrne does very well at writing tragedy as well as triumph.

Superman is fighting a strange being calling herself Supergirl who thinks he must be a villainous Kryptonian escaped from the Phantom Zone. Realising she comes from a different Earth/dimension, how does he shock her memories back?
Hypnotizes her?
Introduces her to Lex Luthor who was a hero in her world?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/26/22 12:19 AM
Thoth has it.

This was Byrne's reuse of the Pocket Universe where that Lex Luthor, with the best of intentions, accidentally released from the Phantom Zone three Kryptonian criminals who decided the best way to subdue a rebellious populous was to kill everyone. Genius. Luthor empowered a handful of heroic survivors such as Hal Jordan and Oliver Queen and created a protoplasmic matrix lifeform using Lana Lang as a template who would become Matrix Supergirl. Matrix is sent to recruit the main Superman but is confused on waking and ends up fighting him (of course). After figuring out where she must come from, part of Superman's way to shock her memories back is to show her Metropolis still standing and introduce her to his Lex Luthor. She then takes him back with her to his world where he helps in the fight against the Kryptonian criminals, eventually defeating him but being the only one left alive. As the only remaining source of justice in that universe he executes them and returns to his universe, taking a slowly reforming Matrix with him. His guilt over his actions lead to him leaving Earth, encountering Warworld and Mongul, and returning with the Eradicator device which will ultimately play a vital role in his later resurrection.

That adventure is still controversial but I did like how the consequences continued to play out for years and years to follow.
Thanks for the background stile. I hadn't been aware of he later implications, having stopped reading it. Back to the comic boxes for a new Q shortly...
Which Batman character became an early part of Checkmate?
King Faraday?
Not King Faraday
Amanda Waller?
Nope. This would be before Amanda Waller, is someone tied to Gotham more than I recall her being.
Valentina Vostok?
Nope. This is much more of a Batman related character.
Harvey Bullock?
It is the bullock in a china shop!

Over to you Ibby!
yay!

oh now I have to think of a Q. um...

in the Justice League Spectacular, which reformed the Justice League after Breakdowns, several heroes come together to stop a hostage crisis. At the end, all but one decide to reform the Justice League America and Justice League Europe.

Which one hero opted out?
Was it Batman?
I'll say J'onn, only for him to turn up as Bloodwynd
Nope, none of them were at the scene of the hostage taking
Atom?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/04/22 11:21 PM
Mister Miracle?
Beetle?
nope, Atom and Mr. Miracle did not appear,

and Beetle joined up.

in the Justice League Spectacular, which reformed the Justice League after Breakdowns, several heroes come together to stop a hostage crisis. At the end, all but one decide to reform the Justice League America and Justice League Europe.

Which one hero opted out?

clue: this hero was a former Leaguer, just decided not to join

Not:

Batman
Martian Manhunter
Bloodwynd
Atom
Mister Miracle
Blue Beetle
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/06/22 04:34 AM
It has been so long since I have read that issue. Still remember the double cover with the two new teams and leaders, Superman and Hal Jordan.

Hmm. Wonder Woman?
it was one of the first Justice League comics I read smile

also not Wonder Woman
Was it Metamorpho?
You got it Annfie, it was Red Mason! Metamorpho pitched in to help (I believe it was Ice who called him in Power Girl).

When everyone was talking about reforming, he opted out as he wanted to relax (and I think he referred again to not really Being a team guy)

If I remember right, Batman was the only one among the guesses who appeared - but he didn?t join the fight, he was trying to convince Superman to play wel with others (a bit ironic eh). But Batman did say that he himself wasn?t meant for a team, while Superman could work wel in one?


Elongated Man and Sue Dibny were among the hostages

Superman went to free them but got taken out

Fire, Ice, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle came charging in, with Metamorpho, Power Girl and Guy Gardner also swooping in (called by Ice),

And Ice used Guy Gardner?s ring to contact Hal Jordan,

Who collected Flash (Wally), Crimson Fox and Aquaman. Doctor Light decided to come along,

And there we have it.
Yay, my crush on Metamorpho makes good again!

New Q very soon!
Rex is very crushable wink I liked that he developed a small romance with the Crimson Fox, and that she could see past the exterior to the intelligent, charming man inside
I totally agree, Ibby. They were such a cute couple. It's a pity that their subplot got so melodramatic, with one of the D'Aramis sisters getting killed, and all the unpleasant repercussions. Bad writing, plain and simple.
New Q:

In the "Flex Mentallo" mini-series by Morrison & Quitely, there is a particularly heartbreaking scene where a drug addict meets his end in a filthy subway station men's room after briefly attaining "cosmic awareness."

Which DCU character was he an analog of?
Darkseid? (just thinking who would be chasing cosmic awareness...)
Not Darkseid. This character is not a villain.
Hal Jordan?
Not Hal Jordan.
The Fact is...

Actually, I'm his post modern side-kick... The Uncertainty.

I think...

If it's a subway, that it might be Billy Batson receiving his instigating word of cosmic power? He met old man Shazam in a subway.
oooh that rings a bell actually!
Thoth was very, very close (and kudos on the "Fact" reference,) because there *was* a Billy Batson analog in "Flex Mentallo." But he was the old janitor at the School for Sidekicks.

Major hint: the drug addict was an analog for a DCU character almost, if not quite, as youthful as the canon version of Billy.
>tsk< typical Morrison. I bet Alan Moore would have linked the subway with Billy Batson. School for Sidekicks indeed.

Cosmic Awareness + Youth + Morrison. But does it = Kid Eternity. Let's find out.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
>tsk< typical Morrison. I bet Alan Moore would have linked the subway with Billy Batson. School for Sidekicks indeed.

LOL lol

Originally Posted by thoth lad
Cosmic Awareness + Youth + Morrison. But does it = Kid Eternity. Let's find out.

Not Kid Eternity.
By odd coincidence I just typed "Kamandi" in something else I was doing.

I'm not getting a link with drugs, cosmic awareness or subways. But as I say "Synchonicity. It's not just a Police album."

He does tick the youth box.
And...Thoth has guessed the right answer! It is Kamandi!

The key signifiers are the addict's long blonde hair (which also allows Frank Quitely the artistic license to make him resemble the infamously debauched Iggy Pop,) and his line, "Sometimes I feel so low, like I'm the last boy on Earth."

Over to you, Thoth.
Crumbs. Not much of a link there, Mr Morrison. Could just as easily have been:-

"When I shoot this Hyperjuice, I feel like I could run the world. But who is running me?" - The Prez.
"It's not just the drugs. I feel like I can see the future racing towards us and that I'm the first boy on this new earth." - Anthro.
"Since Alan Moore stopped writing super heroes, I'm just a lost, mixed up, patchwork kid." - Brother Power.

The Fact is... that there will be a new question soon.

Or is it that The Question that will be arriving soon will be a fact...

... faceless heroes are so samey...

Oh hi nurse! Is it time for my Rorschach tests already?
ROTFLMAO lol

Well, at least Quitely drew that sequence very well. smile
Which character retrained the Question shortly after the Question's first few DC appearances?
Richard Dragon?
Got it in one Paladin!

Dragon was created by Denny O'Neil in a novel, brought over into comics, and later into the Question, which he was writer of.

Over to you!
I read the latter part of that run back in the day. The first character I thought of was Tot (short for Aristotle), who was a friend/ally/servant?, but the memories were vague--even the name, which just occurred to me. Then, I thought I remembered Richard Dragon being in the series and guessed him. {I think maybe he also trained Black Canary or the Huntress?)

Anyhow, I'll try to think up a trivia question soon-ish.....
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/28/22 10:41 PM
Bump Paladin
(remember, no googling...)

Which comic features a character named Erica Slaughter as its main protagonist?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/03/22 05:56 AM
Never heard of her. Gonna have to wait on this one.
the name seems vaguely familiar, but I can't recall more than that unfortunately
I got nothing, sorry.
It's a dunno here. Sounds like it would be either a horror comic or something from a UK police/detective book. Slaughter of the Yard.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Sounds like it would be either a horror comic or something from a UK police/detective book. Slaughter of the Yard.

Definitely the former....
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/04/22 08:12 AM
Wild shot here but does she have anything to do with the Marvel character Bloodstone? A daughter perhaps?
Originally Posted by stile86
Wild shot here but does she have anything to do with the Marvel character Bloodstone? A daughter perhaps?

No, in fact this is not a Marvel character.
(remember, no googling...)

Which comic features a character named Erica Slaughter as its main protagonist?

HINTS:
-horror comic
-not a Marvel character
Ah, I'm glad stile mentioned Bloodstone. That was what I had waaay back in my brain cell, but I couldn't recall the name.

I'm buying Edgar Allan Poe's Snifter of Blood or whatever it now is, and Basilisk and it's not a character in those. I read Mountainhead last year, and not in that...

the Alien relaunch that I might get the trade of?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/07/22 02:15 AM
Was Erica the name of the woman/love interest in the first appearance of the Swamp Thing (House of Mystery?) before it was reused and retold a while later?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Ah, I'm glad stile mentioned Bloodstone. That was what I had waaay back in my brain cell, but I couldn't recall the name.

I'm buying Edgar Allan Poe's Snifter of Blood or whatever it now is, and Basilisk and it's not a character in those. I read Mountainhead last year, and not in that...

the Alien relaunch that I might get the trade of?
Originally Posted by stile86
Was Erica the name of the woman/love interest in the first appearance of the Swamp Thing (House of Mystery?) before it was reused and retold a while later?

Nothing to do with any of that. This has nothing to do with any company's intellectual property.
(remember, no googling...)

Which comic features a character named Erica Slaughter as its main protagonist?

HINTS:
-horror comic
-not a Marvel character
-not any company's intellectual property (so no DC, Marvel, etc.) and not published by DC or Marvel
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/11/22 01:23 AM
Vampirella comic?
Originally Posted by stile86
Vampirella comic?

Nope.
Hint: This is a current, ongoing comic book
Shows how much attention I'm paying to the current solits. I'm not getting this one.

Since googling is zero fun, I sneakily went off to the pull list thread. Not much there. Then I thought, if only there was a thread where someone talked about all their trades. It turns out there's a gazillion on there. But just above that, some nice poster has posted something that might fit the name. So, since I'm Sneak Lad I'll give others some time to guess...
I am impressed by your detective work, Sneak Lad! smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/17/22 11:01 PM
Something is Killing the Children?
Originally Posted by stile86
Something is Killing the Children?

That would be the comic! This book is wildly popular and buzzworthy, so I thought it would at least be on many of your radars, even if you've not personally read it. Guess I was worng. blush

Over to stile....
with me, it's more that I just don't follow comics news much anymore frown
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
with me, it's more that I just don't follow comics news much anymore frown

Nor I. frown
I went for Luthor's Plot Is Foiled By Superman Once Again, as my on the nose title for my pull list.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/26/22 04:03 AM
Sorry about the delay. Away from home with some internet connection issues.

I haven't read Something is Killing the Children but have heard some buzz suggesting that it is quite liked by some readers.

Dr Doom once attempted to trap the Avengers to use as bait to trap the Fantastic Four, but it doesn't work (Surprise!). Why doesn't it work (the Avengers escape of course but even if they hadn't it would have failed)?

Bonus question: Any idea how he came to trick the Avengers in the first place? (Hint: this is fairly early in their history.)
The FF were unavailable anyway?
Wanda hexes his controls, opening the dome he'd used to cover all of his country?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/27/22 02:27 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
The FF were unavailable anyway?
No they were available and willing.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Wanda hexes his controls, opening the dome he'd used to cover all of his country?
Aha! A man who remembers the adventure!
It was actually Quicksilver who found the lever to open the dome, and the Scarlet Witch who hexed Doom's controls preventing him from closing it again.

However that is not why he failed to trap the FF. Even if Cap's Kooky Quartet had not escaped, the FF would not have been trapped.
Mr. Fantastic had a device that would have let them escape the trap anyway?
For a minute, I thought that this would be another of those ones where I'm close, but not close enough ones. But stile rephrasing the question made me remember. The FF wanted to go and help, but we're denied clearance to do so. Probably by the US gov, to avoid an international incident.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/28/22 12:41 AM
Thoth has it exactly. Thus no matter what happened to the Avengers the FF would not have been trapped.

Bonus fact: How Dr Doom tricked the Avengers in the first place was by sending a letter under an alias to Wanda and Pietro that he had information that might reveal who their parents were. (This was before even the very first of the many retconned "facts" of their ancestry.) So all the Avengers supported the twins by trooping off to ... Latveria! Only when they get off the train do they suddenly remember that the ruler of the nation is Dr Doom, whereupon they are promptly arrested. Real smooth work there team.

Your turn Thoth.
They never were a team showed a lot of detective prowess. Perhaps they all really knew, but had all just squabbled and weren't talking to each other to share the information. These were the "I could beat a dozen of the likes of you from my rocking chair."issues of Cap's leadership.

I read these only in the last couple of years thanks to a massive discount on masterworks on comixology.

New Q soon...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/30/22 01:28 AM
I am reading them at the moment which is why they were on my mind.
While DC was crunching down on multiple version of characters during the Crisis, the alternate universe versions of the cast of one book came over from their universe, and therefore presumably survived Crisis. Which book was it?
Zoo Crew?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/01/22 06:49 AM
Good question. No idea but good question.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Zoo Crew?

Not zoo crew, but the title has a light tone.

Originally Posted by stile86
Good question. No idea but good question.

This is where taking a punt and getting tips narrows it down.
Sugar and Spike?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/02/22 12:01 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by stile86
Good question. No idea but good question.

This is where taking a punt and getting tips narrows it down.
Yeah, sorry about that. Just tired and traveling.

How about Blue Devil?
Hope you get some good rest tonight stile smile no need to be sorry!
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Sugar and Spike?

Not Sugar and Spike. Really good guess, as around that time DC were working on a kid's line that didn;t come to anything. I saw Sugar and SPike on one of the images that went with the article.

Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by stile86
Good question. No idea but good question.

This is where taking a punt and getting tips narrows it down.
Yeah, sorry about that. Just tired and traveling.

How about Blue Devil?

You may have been tired, but you get the right answer! An alternate, space travelling version of Devil's central cast manages to travel into our universe during the Crisis. Now, they might have been wiped by the end of Crisis #10, but so much wasn't. So I reckon there's still a Dan Cassidy, who did not bond with the Devil suit, out there. Always an out for the creators to bring back their version. I know they considered the one that showed up in Starman, and presumably later, as not being the real Blue Devil.

Over to you stile!
wow! what awesome guessing, stile

good Q, thothy!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/04/22 01:37 AM
Huh! Well how about that? Total skill - not. Interesting background Thoth, thanks for that. I haven't rad much Blue Devil, just some early stuff in B&W reprints. Whenever he would pop up in the background in big hero group events I would wonder what happened with him. Very interesting and cool trivia question.

In Alan Moore's "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" several Superman related characters are shown. Which member of the Superman family is shown amongst other heroes but only made two prior comic appearances?
ooh good one. but I'm stumped. Superwoman?
That's a good shout Ibby.

I'll go with Perry White's wife.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/04/22 11:42 PM
Ooh I didn't think of Alice White. Good idea, but DC wiki suggests she made a dozen prior appearances.

Yes it is Superwoman-Kristin Wells. Really interesting choice to include her when she had only made the two prior comic appearances in DC Comics Presents Annuals #2 & #4. She was also mentioned in the novel Miracle Monday which was her first "appearance" and is referred to in Annual #2. Also her appearance in this final Superman story is suggested to be evidence that the story occurred on some other world than Earth-1 since she claimed to be a descendent of Jimmy Olsen and he was killed in this story. (Also she is an interesting character from a Legion point of view since she supposedly came from the 29th Century where there were numerous technologies that would make several of the legionnaires powers redundant. Another sort of technology loss event in the hundred years between?)

Your turn Ibby.
huh, cool!

That was a shot in the dark but I thought it might be Superwoman - as someone who had enough OOMPH to appear despite having only 2 appearances!



OK lessee...


Which Justice League member bought a bed for Captain Atom?
Power Girl?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/06/22 01:05 AM
Stretching membership a bit, Catherine Cobert?
nope and nope, but you are both thinking of the correct era!
Sue Dibny?
also nope

Which Justice League member bought a bed for Captain Atom?

Not

Power Girl
Catherine Cobert
Sue Dibny
Metamorpho, as he was tired of being Cap's bed?
Also nope
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/08/22 02:45 AM
J'onn?
also nope

was a female who did it

Which Justice League member bought a bed for Captain Atom?

Not

Power Girl
Catherine Cobert
Sue Dibny
Metamorpho
Martian Manhunter
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/09/22 04:01 AM
I know! (I think.) Crimson Fox?
you got it, stile!

Fox was stopping a crime, and ended up thrashing Captain Atom's bedroom by accident (there was a helicopter involved!) Captain Atom was enraged, and Batman of all people had to calm him down. as a sort of apology, Fox bought Atom a new bed, and left a note "I hope I can try it some time" or something like that. very cheeky and flirty of her... and they made her French too tongue
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/10/22 02:01 AM
Crimson Fox was fun character, made even more interesting once it was revealed she was actually twins who took turns donning the costume.

Loki once offered a great gift to a group of humans and mutants which would have spread to the entire human race, empowering them and making them almost gods themselves. Why in the end did they reject his gift?
yeah, Foxy was fun!

Was it because the gift empowered them, at the expense of the health of magical colleagues?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/11/22 01:08 AM
Yes that is correct , if not the whole story. I imagine you are thinking of the same story, the Alpha Flight/X-Men 2 issue series.

Normal humans were empowered in tremendous ways but at the cost of the loss of magic, specifically in terms of magically empowered beings who suffered horribly, and also in terms of the "magic" of human imagination and creativity. For example one of the transformed humans could make his previous dreams of architectural buildings into reality but could no longer create anything new.

Loki had sought more power for himself from beings that were sort of gods to him, and their requirement was that he offer a great gift to humans. When the humans in the end rejected his gift because of the cost he tried to force them to accept it at which the higher beings appeared and chastised him saying that if he had only accepted the humans rejection they would have granted his request.

I really enjoyed the crossover and thought it was a terrific story.
Your turn.
Yes, same story smile though you remember it much better than I do! (I only read summaries of the issues, not the issues themselves)

take that Loki!

ok let's see...

Magog accidentally blasted someone, and was very unapologetic for it. This led Power Girl to (rather violently) kick him off the team.

Who did he blast?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/12/22 12:39 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Yes, same story smile though you remember it much better than I do! (I only read summaries of the issues, not the issues themselves)
If you ever get a chance to read it I recommend it. I have the original issues as well as a TPB collecting those and the later X-Men/New Mutants in Asgard story, both great reads.

Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Magog accidentally blasted someone, and was very unapologetic for it. This led Power Girl to (rather violently) kick him off the team.

Who did he blast?
Is this in Justice Society? I haven't read those. Lets guess Hourman?
thanks stile smile oh yeah, the story in Asgard is a classic I think!

yes, in Justice Society, but not Hourman!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/12/22 11:59 PM
Obsidian?
Nope!

Magog accidentally blasted someone, and was very unapologetic for it. This led Power Girl to (rather violently) kick him off the team.

Who did he blast?

It was someone in the Justice Society, but not

Hourman
Obsidian
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/13/22 11:39 PM
Stargirl?
Also no, but the correct answer is female
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/14/22 11:31 PM
Cyclone?
you got it!

Cyclone was coming up behind Magog to help. HE turned and blasted her. when Power Girl called him out on it, he lamely said "she came up on my blind side". and that is when Kara used violence...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/16/22 02:09 AM
i guessed Cyclone when I remembered that you have used her in a number of trivia games before. I guess you like her as a character Ibby?

Superman gave Lana Lang super-powers via a blood transfusion, and when Lois becomes jealous and despondent he gave them to Lois as well. The two women teamed up in super outfits to do super-hero stuff while Superman travelled to a distant galaxy. However Superman had a specific reason for giving them both powers which involved a deal to save the whole world. What was this deal and who was it with?
yes, you're right stile smile with my fairly limited comics reading, I tend to gravitate towards characters I know and like... wind powers also usually fascinate me.

a deal... hm...

the deal was to save the world without lifting a finger of his own?
and it was with... Lex Luthor?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/17/22 01:10 AM
No to both I am afraid.
was it a deal to prove that women could be just as competent as men?

deal was with... i dunno... Wonder Woman?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/18/22 02:41 AM
Ha! Interesting idea. But no, it wasn't Wonder Woman and was not about proving competency.

Hint you were closer with your first guess.
That he could leave Earth alone for a bit and it would be safe?

Deal with Brainiac?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/19/22 01:05 AM
Close enough. It was Brainiac and he did agree to leave Earth alone, in particular not to destroy it. But why?

I don't think you will ever guess (I certainly wouldn't have) so here is the explanation. In Superman's Girl-Friend Lois Lane #17, in only his second ever appearance, Brainiac in revenge for Superman stopping his plan to collect the bottled cities of Earth sought to put him in a no-win situation. Having contacted Superman and protected behind his force field where Superman agreed he couldn't touch him, Brainiac offered him a choice. Either Brainiac would destroy the Earth or ... on a particular day he would mentally force Superman's two loves Lois and Lana to go to a certain location where they would be killed, and on this day Superman had to promise to be in a distant galaxy where he couldn't save them and not have told anyone about it. Superman agreed to the deal but had outsmarted Brainiac by giving the two women temporary super-powers so that when they entered the explosive laden building they survived the explosion unscathed. Brainiac of course, being the noble and honourable being he was(!?), honoured the deal. as Superman says to him "You're a rogue and a scoundrel, Brainiac ... but at least you kept your word!"

Wasn't the Silver Age wonderful?

Your turn Ibby.
wow. the Silver Age is so... yeah, that is indeed some Silver Age stuff!

curious, how did Superman remove the powers after? Or did he intend for them to be temporary?

also: all this "and Lois got jealous" bit, when he WANTED her to have powers anyway!

ok, next Q:

there have been a few DC/Marvel crossovers before. In one, Robin (Tim Drake) developed a romance with which Marvel heroine?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/22/22 12:05 AM
The powers were temporary and faded just after the attack.

Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
there have been a few DC/Marvel crossovers before. In one, Robin (Tim Drake) developed a romance with which Marvel heroine?

Hmm. Sounds vaguely familiar. I guess someone youngish. Stargirl?
Nope. Was a Marvel heroine, and indeed youngish

Thanks for filling in the gaps re that last story smile ah the silver age
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/23/22 02:54 AM
Oops, yep mixed universes.

Kitty Pryde?
Nope smile
Jubilee?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/24/22 12:25 AM
I bet that's it Ann.
Annfie has it, it was Jubilee! Both Jubilee and Tim were shown very distraught at the end of that DC/Marvel (also called Marvel/DC, to give both companies equal billing) series
A lucky guess on my part.

New Q soon.
Let's take a trip back to the 80s and the genre-oriented sector of the indie scene...specifically First Comics and their acid-noir series Grimjack.

What was the nationality of Spook, the femme fatale whom Grimjack met while time-traveling in the Old West?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/27/22 12:45 AM
Afraid I never read or even heard of Grimjack but I will have a guess - Mexican?
Not Mexican.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/28/22 05:36 AM
British?
I'm sitting this one out, as I have never heard of Grimjack unfortunately.
Not British.

There's a clue in the original question:


Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
What was the nationality of Spook, the femme fatale whom Grimjack met while time-traveling in the Old West?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/29/22 01:22 AM
Hmm. A clue in the question.

Old West might suggest a US citizen but that would be too obvious in light of the question. That was why my first guess was Mexican.

Femme Fatale doesn't really help much as that could be from anywhere.

Spook suggests ghost or spy - or ... I just googled it and discovered that it can also be racial slur against those of dark skin colour (something I never knew) so perhaps somewhere in Africa or maybe the Caribbean.

Let's try Jamaican?
French?
Originally Posted by stile86
Femme Fatale doesn't really help much as that could be from anywhere

Actually, that was the clue! Femme fatale is a French term.

Originally Posted by thoth lad
French?

Which means that Thoth has the right answer.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/29/22 11:14 PM
Missed it by this much! Femme fatale has become such a well used borrow term in English that I dismissed it. Silly me. Well done Thoth and thanks for the question and clues Ann.
BUMP thoth lad
Who were the members of the Lady Liberators? and who was really behind them?
Haven't the foggiest...

Maybe Foggy Nelson and the Mist?
The Lady Liberators were: Valkryie, Scarlet Witch, Medusa, Black Widow, and Wasp.

But then Valkyrie turned out to be Amora the Enchantress in disguise. She was behind it all along.
Ann gets it comprehensively in one. Over to you Ann!
In the 1978 JLA/JSA team-up, the teams met five DCU heroes/anti-heroes from various points in the distant past. Who were these five historical characters?
Cinnamon
Shining Knight
Vandal Savage
Jonah Hex
Viking Prince
'78 seems a bit past the cast of thousands team ups. Into Conway territory....

Jonah Hex met the JLA a few times. Grim Ghost, Black Pirate, Enemy Ace and um... Viking Commando?
Ibby correctly guessed Jonah Hex and Viking Prince.

Thoth correctly guessed Black Pirate and Enemy Ace, and Jonah Hex again.

So I'm going to give it to whoever guesses the fifth character correctly.

To recap:

In the 1978 JLA/JSA team-up, the teams met five DCU heroes/anti-heroes from various points in the distant past. Who were these five historical characters?

Four of the five:

Jonah Hex
Enemy Ace
Viking Prince
Black Pirate

Not:

Cinnamon
Viking Commando
Grim Ghost
Vandal Savage
Shining Knight

Originally Posted by Thoth
'78 seems a bit past the cast of thousands team ups. Into Conway territory....

This was early in the Conway era, when the book was still oversized; this was also Conway's first JLA/JSA team up.

I know we kind of differ on the cast of thousands team ups, Thoth. As always, that's a good thing. Keeps these forums lively. smile
Warlord of Skartaris?
Tomahawk?
Not Warlord or Tomahawk, but Thoth is *very* close.
Aaaaaaaargh! Right, where's my thinking beanie... The one wrapped in who's who covers....
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/20/22 02:50 AM
Arak, Son of Thunder?
Not Arak.

Hint: The fifth one is female.

And a reminder that Thoth was very close to the right answer with Tomahawk.
I know it's not Miss America. But someone like Miss America. And who's also married to Tomahawk. Mrs Hawk. smile
Miss ______ is not a Freedom Fighter, but her name is synonymous with freedom.
Miss Legislative Assembly Liberty?

Mainly as there was a Liberty Belle. I don't recognise the name, and I'll have read the issue more than once.
Miss Liberty is indeed her name. Her first appearance was in "Tomahawk" issue 81, August 1962.

Next question's yours, Thoth.
Still drawing a blank with her. I'll benear my books at the weekend, so I'll take a look. And for a new Q too.
Angel Love has finally got to go out with the guy she's had a major crush on. But what problem does he have?
He’s secretly a werewolf?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/23/22 10:41 PM
He's a drug addict?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
He’s secretly a werewolf?
He was not a werewolf, although his personality did alter as...

Originally Posted by stile86
He's a drug addict?
...he had a coke habit.

Angel Love was something a bit different, back when DC were exploring new things.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/25/22 03:28 AM
Never read it but I thought I remembered some controversy about it.

What somewhat shocking retcon was given to the Metal Men in the 1990s and how was the retcon retconned?
first retcon: that they were humans transplanted into robot bodies when their human bodies were destroyed? (including Will Magnus himself at some point!)

retcon: Will Magnus was dreaming the whole thing up?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/26/22 03:02 AM
You got it. Your turn Ibby.
nice, thanks stile smile

let's see...

When Doomsday first appeared, the Justice League encountered him and were torn apart. Which Justice Leaguer tracked Doomsday alone, until their teammates could recover and help (not that it mattered...)
Blue Beetle?
Nope, Beetle was put in a coma so could not have volunteered
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/27/22 12:21 AM
Ice?
you got it!

Beetle was heavily injured, and only Ice and Maxima were left standing. (for those keeping count, Fire, Booster Gold, Guy Gardner, and I believe Bloodwynd were all out too).

Ice convinced Maxima to fly Beetle to medical attention while she followed Doomsday herself...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/28/22 02:23 AM
I thought Booster, Beetle, Guy and Bloodwynd were all out of it but wasn't sure about the rest. Ice seemed the most likely. Good question and a bit surprised I didn't know the answer automatically.

Long before the 1986 Superman reboot there were plans afoot as comics entered the Bronze Age to cut back Superman's powers with half of them ending up in the hands of an interdimensional being. However this plan from writer Denny O'Neil and editor Julius Schwartz started by actually making him stronger. What was the radical change to Superman lore that made him even tougher?
A cosmic shockwave, or some such thing, renders Kryptonite inert. There's a delightful bit where Supes cheerfully snacks on a piece of Kryptonite that a bad guy tries to threaten him with.
Originally Posted by stile86
I thought Booster, Beetle, Guy and Bloodwynd were all out of it but wasn't sure about the rest. Ice seemed the most likely. Good question and a bit surprised I didn't know the answer automatically.

Glad you liked it! I found the use of the League good - that scene with Ice convincing Maxima to save Beetle was well done/
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/29/22 04:41 AM
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
A cosmic shockwave, or some such thing, renders Kryptonite inert. There's a delightful bit where Supes cheerfully snacks on a piece of Kryptonite that a bad guy tries to threaten him with.
Bingo. A science team are trying out an experimental Kryptonite powered reactor which runs wild and explodes, somehow turning all the Kryptonite into Iron. As the Daily Planet headline reads, "Now he's really invulnerable". This is followed by a series of stories where Superman is having to save the day with mysteriously having much less power than normal while being stalked in the background by a mysterious "sand" Superman.

The story was a valiant effort to reign in his power but following writers largely ignored the change apart from referencing the lack of Kryptonite so in the end it had little to no effect. There was a post-Crisis version written, pencilled and inked by Walt Simonson in 1992, which retold the story in a single Special. This time it was Luthor who was experimenting on Kryptonite but the change had less effect since it was far more rare after Crisis. The sand-Superman was the centre of the story and once again sacrifices himself for the real Superman.

Your turn Ann.
What was the Black Panther's true motivation for joining the Avengers?
To get help tracking down vibranium thieves?
No.

Hint: Black Panther's true motivation for joining the Avengers was a late-90s retcon by writer Christopher Priest, who was scripting the character's solo book at the time.
Proving himself to the Panther god?
Not that either.

His motivation had to do with security concerns.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/31/22 01:34 AM
He was worried about another of the Avengers being a security risk? (no way would that have been an original story line but I can imagine it being a retcon.)
Not quite, he was worried about the security of Wakanda. You're almost there.
Was it to keep tabs on Vision, who had already shown signs of being a threat?
Yes and no. No, because the Vision hadn't yet been created when Black Panther joined the Avengers. Yes, because he wanted to keep tabs on the Avengers, but the whole team.

Hmmm...I guess that's close enough. Ibby gets the next question.

And, BTW, it was indeed a retcon -- and a controversial one. Christopher Priest, who is black and was writing Black Panther's solo book at the time (the late 90s) has been vocal in his opinion that Roy Thomas's Silver Age portrayal of Black Panther as a member of the Avengers is embarrassing and demeaning. That was why Priest did the retcon. This infuriated fans (and fans turned pro such as Kurt Busiek) who loved the "noble" Black Panther of yesteryear, but I personally agree with Priest.
Ah, didn’t realise it was the Avengers as a whole. I read some Black Panther biographies and was trying to recall what i had read

Not familiar with Panther’s first bit of tenure… but it does seem as though the retcon ties in to Panther’s status as ruler of wakanda. Thanks for the history lesson Annfie

Ok…

In the Red Winter storyline, what clue did Sue leave Ralph, which eventually allowed him to foil a key part of Sonar’s plan ?
A tuning fork?
Nope, though good guess given the villain. the clue was not related to Sonar's power though
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/02/22 07:54 AM
Jigsaw puzzle? ( I know that is from an earlier case but maybe Sue used it again because it worked before?)
A flag of whatever country Sonar was would be ruler of?
nope and nope

the clue was something more related to Sue, than it was to Sonar
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/06/22 07:12 AM
A piece of Sue's clothing?
close enough!

Sue returned her wedding ring to Ralph... and Ralph realized it was not her actual ring! He could only afford a gold-plated, fake diamond ring, but their love was real - Sue sending him a real diamond ring meant her feelings for Sonar were fake. and indeed, Sue was stringing Sonar along so she could learn his plans, and she tipped Ralph off as to the bombs he had hidden around Moscow.

Over to you stile!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/07/22 12:29 AM
Wow. Ok I wouldn't have guessed that. Have to read it sometime. Part of my missing years of comics.

Thinking about a question.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/08/22 01:49 AM
In early Post-Crisis continuity Superman and Batman often didn't get on very well, their different approaches and methods getting on each other's nerves. So Superman is rather disturbed when he finds Batman in Metropolis encroaching on his turf when Batman follows up the case in Gotham City of the unexplained death of a "wandering vagabond". Superman meanwhile has concerns over an unknown woman who knows his secret identity. The connection between the two is a piece of jewellery. What is the jewellery and why does it form a bond of trust between the two heroes?
a ring with Martha on it?

just kidding

a kryptonite ring?bond of trust because Batman wanted to keep it for protection, and Superman ended up giving it to Batman?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/09/22 03:53 AM
That's the one. That good old Martha ring - no, wait ...

(Side rant: I am not as bothered as many by the whole "Martha" thing from Batman V Superman as many fans. Because we all know Superman was raised by the Kents and thinks of himself as a human, we forget that the in-universe characters think differently. The shock of Superman valuing someone named Martha, a name with huge value to Batman, stopped Batman in his tracks but didn't convince him. Lois explaining that it was Superman's mother's name (yes the same name as Batman's mother) made him realise that Superman wasn't just some alien who was a danger to the world and it humanised Superman, made him see all he knew in a different light, that he valued a human above his own life, and also coming from Lois showing her devotion to him. That this wasn't clear to viewers does mean that the scripting needed a tweak but it isn't the total rubbish it is often seen as. End rant.)

Yes It was the Kryptonite ring Luthor had made that cost him his hand. I really like the last few pages, first where Batman reveals that he has had the ring all along and Superman says "You have me at a disadvantage." and Batman says "I know" and leaves but also leaves the ring behind (in a lead box) for Superman. Then in the last Page Superman visits the Batcave and after acknowledging their differences talks about his fear that some enemy might one day control him and hands over the ring. Batman says "Do you realise what you are asking?" Superman says "Yes. Yes I do. I want the means to stop me to be in the hands of a man I can trust with my life." Great Story, great pacing and great characterisation.

Your turn Ibby.
thanks stile smile I also thought the Martha thing was fairly realistic. It's an important name to Batman too. (the one thing I did feel off about this was Superman saying "Martha" rather than "mom" or "ma"!)

thanks for reminding me about this story too, thought it was a nice start to their friendship.

ok let's see...

In Tales of the Dark Multiverse (a sort of What If for DC), in one world Terra decides to act on her own and murders basically the entire world. Who were the last two superheroes we see her kill?
Geo Force and Changeling?
you got one right! the other one did not have a particular connection to Terra (missed opportunity eh)
Power Girl and Geo Force?
neither is correct!

though one of your correct answers here, is very similar to the 2nd un-guessed correct answer
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/11/22 12:31 AM
Supergirl and Changeling?
That’s one correct, and the incorrect one is VERY closely related to the second correct answer!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/12/22 06:06 AM
Matrix and Changeling?
Nope. Same comment, but think a little bit further in terms of relationships re the second character
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/13/22 01:26 AM
Superwoman (Kristin Wells?) and Changeling?
Also nope. Same comment as for the last guess
Superman and Changeling?
you got it! Superman was called in to stop Terra... she used her powers to gather kryptonite. oops. and when Changeling came to confront her she burned him alive... then destabilized Earth's core, basically killing most of the world...

very grim


on a brighter note,

over to you thothy
Grimness for the sake of it, the end point of the legacy people took from Dark Knight Returns. New Q sooooon...
Perceived as an alien threat, how is a returning Captain Atom dealt with by those who put him through his transformative experiment.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/20/22 05:21 AM
Stuck in a test tube? Seems a common occurrence to shrinking people.
It is, but this is Captain Atom, so they had something else in mind.
Brainwashed and turned into Monarch?
No, this occurs earlier.
Sicced Major Force on him?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/21/22 12:58 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
It is, but this is Captain Atom, so they had something else in mind.
Whoops! Teach me to read the question better (maybe).

Ibby's Major Force answer sounds good but just in case, threaten to reveal to his super-hero colleagues that his backstory is fictional?
Not Major Force or threaten him. This was a direct way of getting rid of him and in keeping with his background.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/25/22 01:36 AM
Did they try to nuke him?
Did they try to send him backwards in time ?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Did they try to send him backwards in time ?
No. He had just come forward in time, so it would have been reasonable for them to try and reverse it, or do it again.

Originally Posted by stile86
Did they try to nuke him?
This is close enough for the win. They did try to blow him up, by sending him into space on a rocket. Military rockets were all the rage in Cap's original run.

Over to you stile!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/27/22 11:52 PM
During Zero Hour a new Batgirl showed up who was fairly quickly shown not to be the one from our universe/timeline. Other than being able to walk (our Barbara was still confined to a wheelchair) what else gave away her other timeline origins?
oh nice one, I remember this Batgirl. Heroic sacrifice at the end, too.

Was she too young / noticeably younger than "our" Babs?
She carried the Bat-Handbag of the '60s?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/28/22 11:58 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
oh nice one, I remember this Batgirl. Heroic sacrifice at the end, too.

Was she too young / noticeably younger than "our" Babs?
You are remembering the character correctly and she was drawn younger but I don't remember anyone commenting on such. Not what I was looking for.

Originally Posted by thoth lad
She carried the Bat-Handbag of the '60s?
I remember that bag! No she wasn't carrying that.
wait, I think it was a point of reference. that is, she mentioned that the current Robin then (Tim) was younger /different than her Batman's Robin.
Her origin didn't involve Killer Moth?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/29/22 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
wait, I think it was a point of reference. that is, she mentioned that the current Robin then (Tim) was younger /different than her Batman's Robin.
I had forgotten that. You are very close and it is to do with something she says, but not that.


Originally Posted by thoth lad
Her origin didn't involve Killer Moth?
Not that I remember.
I don't remember the details, so I'm guessing: Was her Jim Gordon dead?
Her Batman isn't Bruce Wayne?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/01/22 02:36 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Her Batman isn't Bruce Wayne?
No definitely Bruce Wayne.
Originally Posted by Paladin
I don't remember the details, so I'm guessing: Was her Jim Gordon dead?
Not exactly what I was thinking of but close enough as an important part of the difference. This Batgirl had the confrontation with Joker that our Babs did but this time it was her Dad who opened the door and was shot which killed him and Barbara who was kidnapped. After Batman rescued her, Bruce helped her through the trauma and they ended up as a couple, leading to this Batgirl's very awkward comment about how much she and Bruce meant to each other.

Take it away Paladin.
Good Q, stile. Well done Paladin.
Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Her Batman isn't Bruce Wayne?
No definitely Bruce Wayne.
Originally Posted by Paladin
I don't remember the details, so I'm guessing: Was her Jim Gordon dead?
Not exactly what I was thinking of but close enough as an important part of the difference. This Batgirl had the confrontation with Joker that our Babs did but this time it was her Dad who opened the door and was shot which killed him and Barbara who was kidnapped. After Batman rescued her, Bruce helped her through the trauma and they ended up as a couple, leading to this Batgirl's very awkward comment about how much she and Bruce meant to each other.

Take it away Paladin.
huh cool, I don't think this was outlined in the main Zero Hour book eh? must have been in a tie-in. nice!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/02/22 02:38 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
huh cool, I don't think this was outlined in the main Zero Hour book eh? must have been in a tie-in. nice!
You are right! It appeared in Batman #511 before Superman gathered all the heroes together (including this Batgirl) in the main series. I had forgotten that.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/07/22 10:44 PM
bump Paladin
thanks for the bump up stile smile I suggest we wait a week and see...
I sent Lardy a PM reminder smile suggest we wait a week and see
Oh! Didn't realize I was "right" on this one! Sorry, gang! blush

Let me think about this, and I'll have something very soon, 'kay?
ok by me, thanks Lardy smile and no worries, I've needed a few prompts myself re giving the next Q smile
Okay, maybe an easy one or not...What cool piece of technology debuted in a magnificent double-page spread, only 2 and 3 pages into Jack Kirby's legendary Fourth World run?
Boom tube?
^ that sounds right!
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Boom tube?

That was the obvious answer, but...nope! shake




Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
^ that sounds right!

And yet it isn't! wink
Mother Box?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/28/22 07:36 AM
I actually think thoth is right but just to be contrary I am gonna say Metron's Mobius Chair
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Mother Box?
Originally Posted by razsolo
I actually think thoth is right but just to be contrary I am gonna say Metron's Mobius Chair

Nope and nope.

Hints to come, if there are more wrong guesses.
The Super Cycle?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/29/22 07:46 AM
Orion's Astro-Harness thingie?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The Super Cycle?

this also sounds right... I remember the Forever People were among the first to appear...
I will be something from Jimmy Olsen's adventures, as I'm fairly sure that's what Kirby started on.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/30/22 01:02 AM
That big white flying "car" that Jimmy and the Newsboy Legion flew around in?
I think that's it stile. I remember going "and just what's this thing?"

Kirby and his own Legion smile
Originally Posted by thoth lad
I will be something from Jimmy Olsen's adventures, as I'm fairly sure that's what Kirby started on.
Originally Posted by stile86
That big white flying "car" that Jimmy and the Newsboy Legion flew around in?

thoth was on the right track, but stile nailed it! It's called the "Whiz Wagon", btw, (stile, you only get a B+ because you didn't know it's moniker tongue ) and it is featured in all its glory in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #133, the beginning of Kirby's defection to DC and the unofficial/official beginning to his Fourth World saga. (IIRC, there's either an allusion or even a direct name-drop of Darkseid even in that issue.)

I first encountered the Newsboys and their vehicle when they appeared sometime into the post-Crisis Superman revamo, but I was blown away by how Kirby drew the Wagon when I cracked open my Fourth World Omnibus! I stared at that spread for a good long while and even flipped back occasionally to gape some more! Kirby's Fourth Worl artistry is some of his very best, for sure!

So, Mr B+...yer up!
Really good Q, Paladin. We'll recalled, stile!
Indeed, what thoth said tongue
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/31/22 12:15 AM
Of course it was the Whiz Wagon! Mental blank. That is a great spread image. Great question Pal.

I think this will be an easier one.
Darkseid is of course a major foe these days in the DCU. What other two characters, one from DC and one from Marvel, are sometimes thought of as "copies" and can you name the single artist who created both of them?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/31/22 02:32 AM
Definitely Thanos and...Mongul maybe? And the crestor would be Jim Starlin
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/01/22 01:40 AM
That's who I was thinking of. Take it away raz.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/01/22 07:01 AM
I think I just guessed Mongul cuz he seems like someone Starlin would invent if he couldn't use a Thanos laugh

During one of the Royal Flush Gang's pre-Crisis fights against the JLA, one of them memorably took down Superman without breaking a sweat. Which member of the RFG was it and how did they do it?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/01/22 09:46 AM
(Credit where credit is due: although Thanos appears to be a completely Starlin creation, Mongul was co-created by Len Wein as writer and Starlin as artist.)

I can't remember reading much of the Royal Flush Gang pre-Crisis so I will guess that Jack somehow made a red sun beam come from his eye?
was this the JL Spectacular issue where they used a giant flying Ace of Spades that froze Superman in mid-flight, it was so cold?
I say it was the Queen, above some amusements with a power sceptre. I think she was disguised as Lois, to get close enough.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/02/22 06:31 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
I say it was the Queen, above some amusements with a power sceptre. I think she was disguised as Lois, to get close enough.
I probably should have suspected there would be more than one story that could fit the bill, but thoth's got the one I was thinking of smile

There were a lot of good bits in that story, not the least of which was surprise Professor Stein to the rescue! All yours, thoth!
Monocle blasted Hawkman with an eye beam around this time too.

This was part of a peak period of JLA, with thee New Gods, Starro taking New York, Red Tornado's origins, Injustice Society looking to obliterate an Earth and the classic #200.

Stein battling the villain in this one was a treat. All notable for Ralph and Dinah getting lots of panels, and the Royal Flush gang getting some depth. Jack figuring out at least part of the multiple layers of bad guys was unusual.

New Q soon...
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/02/22 09:15 PM
Agreed, Ralph and Dinah getting some spotlight waa another awesome bit! And Ollie and Ten's fight on the satellite stuck with me too smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/18/22 06:22 AM
Bump Thoth
A question of sixes...

Six Infinitors go back in time, where they end up fighting six golden age characters. During the fight, the six golden age charactes are replaced by six villains. With the infinitors remdered unconscious, it falls to six others to battle the villains and their master.

The six infitors are given below. But which Golden Age characters did they fight, who were the six villains and who remained to fight the villains

Nuklon – GA Character - Villain
Silver Scarab – GA Character - Villain

Fury – GA Character - Villain
Northwind – GA Character - Villain

Jade – GA Character - Villain
Obsidian – GA Character - Villain

The Six Rescuers:
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/24/22 01:53 AM
Golden Age Characters
Let's go with Alan Scott, Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Jay Garrick, Doctor Occult, Doll Man
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/04/22 11:50 PM
Bump Thoth
I will throw out... (wondering if they went to diff. time periods)

Wonder Woman
Hawkman
Jonah Hex
Viking Prince
Shining Knight
Uncle Sam
argh. I even missed the bump... oh heck, there's a lot of answers here...um...

whew...I wrote down the answers...

Nuklon – GA Character - Villain
Silver Scarab – GA Character - Villain

Fury – GA Character - Villain
Northwind – GA Character - Villain

Jade – ALAN SCOTT- Villain
Obsidian – GA Character - Villain

The Six Rescuers:


Some good guesses...

Golden Agers = NOT: Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Jay Garrick, Doctor Occult, Doll Man - 1 of these was a rescuer though.

Golden Agers = NOT Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam

HINT: One of the six Golden Agers isn't *really* a Golden Ager. 2 others were prominant in the title where all this happened. Villains and rrescuers also up fro grabs.
I'm thinking this sounds like the All-Star Squadron arc that introduced Infinity, Inc. So I'll try:

Nuklon – Robotman - Mist
Silver Scarab – Commander Steel - Rag Doll

Fury – Liberty Belle - Brain Wave
Northwind – Johnny Quick - Psycho-Pirate

Jade – ALAN SCOTT- Ultra-Humanite
Obsidian – Firebrand - Monocle

The Six Rescuers: Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Robin, Wildcat, Doctor Fate
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 10/06/22 08:58 AM
bump Thoth
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/04/22 11:25 PM
bump Thoth
Six Infinitors go back in time, where they end up fighting six golden age characters. During the fight, the six golden age charactes are replaced by six villains. With the infinitors rendered unconscious, it falls to six others to battle the villains and their master.

The six infinitors are given below. But which Golden Age characters did they fight, who were the six villains and who remained to fight the villains?


Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE

Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE

Fury – GA Character - Villain

Northwind – GA Character - MIST

Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL

Obsidian – GA Character - MONOCLE



The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT - 2 TO GET


Some good guesses...

Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate
Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite
Guessing

GA character - Rose and Thorn, Harlequin

Rescuers - Power Girl, Huntress
OK, well, I'm clearly fishing in the right stream (stream of ruthlessness?)

Golden Agers: Atom, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre
Villain: Wizard
Rescuers: Starman, Johnny Thunder
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/10/22 12:04 AM
Bump Thoth
I even managed to lose the answer in the time stream.... back with it now...

The Atom is a hit.

Fury's Golden Age character is one of the first.
Fury's villain is one I first saw in the 1970s JSA comics, and he may have travelled through time to be in this era.

Northwind's Golden Age character is one who had some costume clashes with another hero.

The 2 remaining rescuers:-
One is more familiar with the streets of Metropolis.
The other shares a surname with another hero.


ANSWER

Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE

Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE

Fury – GA Character - Villain

Northwind – GA Character - MIST

Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL

Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE



The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT - 2 TO GET


Some good guesses...

Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder
Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard
Huntress, Power Girl?
Not Huntress or Power Girl.

No more infinitors are on the list.
Superman
Hawkgirl
Fury's Golden Age character - Crimson Avenger?
Fury's villain - Per Degaton?

Northwind's golden age character - Manhunter?

Rescuers - Guardian and Phantom Lady?
The Guardian and the Phantom Lady are the two rescuers! The Guardian didn't make many All Star appearances, so it was something new to younger readers. Sandra Knight did appear a bit more often. But wasn't really one of the core cast.

Fury's Golden Age character, while not the Crimson Avenger, is just a little later and follows a similar approach.

Fury's villain is one I first saw in the 1970s JSA comics, and he may have travelled through time to be in this era. The character shares part of a name with a Charlton hero, whose successor would hav ehtier own title many years later.

While Manhunter had naming problems with another golden age charatcer, Northwind's Golden Age character's issue was only about the costume. It was a complete clash with a more prominant Golden Age figure (although wasn't that character's oiriginal costume) and got a spiffy update for this title.


ANSWER

Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE

Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE

Fury – GA Character - Villain

Northwind – GA Character - MIST

Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL

Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE


The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT, GUARDIAN, PHANTOM LADY


Good guesses...

Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder, Superman, Hawkgirl, Per Degaton, Manhunter
Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard
Tarantula
Blue Snowman
Tarantula is one.


Fury's Golden Age character, while not the Crimson Avenger, is just a little later and follows a similar approach. Crimson Avenger is often in the shadow of this character, due to its success.

Fury's villain has opposite powers to a snowman. He is one I first saw in the 1970s JSA comics, and he may have travelled through time to be in this era. The character shares part of a name with a Charlton hero, whose successor would hav ehtier own title many years later.


ANSWER

Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE

Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE

Fury – GA Character - Villain

Northwind – TARANANTULA - MIST

Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL

Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE


The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT, GUARDIAN, PHANTOM LADY


Good guesses...

Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder, Superman, Hawkgirl, Per Degaton, Manhunter, Blue Snowman
Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard
Red Tornado?
Golden Age character - Midnight?
Villain - Deathbolt?
Not Red Tornado, although the villain has powers based on another of the elements.

Not midnight. The character who was an early DC character has gone on to be one of their biggest. The character with the costume change, started off in yellow and purple.
Vandal Savage?
Golden age character - Zatara?
Villain - Mister Atom?
Still To Get:-

GA Hero: Fury's Golden Age character, while not the Crimson Avenger, is just a little later and follows a similar approach. Crimson Avenger is often in the shadow of this character, due to its success. The character who was an early DC character has gone on to be one of their biggest. He is very prominant across multiple titles.

GA Villain: Fury's villain has opposite powers to a snowman. He is one I first saw in the 1970s JSA comics, and he may have travelled through time to be in this era, as his first appearance was actually in the 1970s. The character shares part of a name with a Charlton hero, whose successor would hav ehtier own title many years later. The heroic character who shartes the the main part of the name, made an appearance as one of the Mordru zombies in v4 of the Legion, and would have appeared in War of the Gods.


ANSWER
Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE

Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE

Fury – GA Character - Villain

Northwind – TARANANTULA - MIST

Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL

Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE


The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT, GUARDIAN, PHANTOM LADY



Good guesses...

Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder, Superman, Hawkgirl, Per Degaton, Manhunter, Blue Snowman, Midnight, Red Tornado,Zatara
Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard, Deathbolt, Vandal Savage, Mister Atom
Batman...?
Given the hint, the villain's name must be some variation of "Vulcan", but I don't remember the character. For now, I'll simply guess "Vulcan".

As for the Golden Ager, I suspect Ibby has it - I was sure that I'd previously seen Batman in the "NOT" list, but a careful re-look shows me that he is actually not there.
I also had to check to see if Batman had been guessed smile
Batman is the Golden Age hero, and it was indeed Vulcan as the villain.

I was wondering why Batman kept evading guesses.

All of this occurred in the first appearance of Infinity Inc, in All Star Squadron. Roy Thomas certainly introduced readers to a host of fantastic golden age characters. Having the likes of The Guardian appear was a treat.

And so ends probably the longest question in this thread. Next time, I'm going for a one character answer. smile

As Chaim got the last character, it's over to you Chaim!



ANSWER
Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE

Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE

Fury – BATMAN- VULCAN

Northwind – TARANANTULA - MIST

Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL

Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE


The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT, GUARDIAN, PHANTOM LADY


Good guesses...

Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder, Superman, Hawkgirl, Per Degaton, Manhunter, Blue Snowman, Midnight, Red Tornado,Zatara
Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard, Deathbolt, Vandal Savage, Mister Atom
now that I think about it, Batman would make tons of sense if Robin and / or Huntress were there. guess I just personally tend to forget Superman and Batman existed during the Golden Age AND even tended to influence Earth-2 history after!
Sorry for keeping y'all waiting - was away on family vacation for three days. Tons of fun at Luray Caverns, Virginia. Highly recommend.

Which super-hero was once pulled over by L.E.G.I.O.N. officers for speeding (186,000 miles per second - it's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
The Ray?
Nope.
Lightray?

glad you had a nice vacation!
Captain Comet?
Thanks!

Neither Lightray nor Captain Comet.
Disappointing that Luray didn't filter into the answer, when we guessed Ray and Lightray. smile

A Green Lantern?
Not a Green Lantern.

Hint - this hero is not known for having off-Earth adventures, or at least wasn't at the time of the incident being described.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/27/23 12:55 AM
Starman (Will Payton)?
Correct! It was at the end of a very out-of-character issue in which Will fought Valor with Mister Nebula and the Scarlet Skier involved.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/28/23 01:01 AM
I have a very vague recollection of this. Wonderfully obscure but definitive question.

Can you list all the serious relationships the adult Lana Lang has had? I count four. Can you remember more?
Good guess on Starman, stile!

Clark Kent
Pete Ross
Handy question, as I just read Vartox the other day. I remember Lana and him as a couple, if only briefly

Um....
Did she date Guardian (Jim Harper) one time?

How about Gangbuster?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/28/23 11:22 PM
Thoth has three correct.

In Pre-Crisis, apart from the usual Lois/Lana Superman obsession, Lana had a long distance relationship with Vartox for quite a while but then ended up in a pretty serious relationship with Clark Kent not long before Crisis.
In Post-Crisis she married Pete Ross although they later divorced. (In later years she became a confidante and mentor to Kara who adopted the name of Linda Lang as a distant cousin, but that isn't the sort of relationship I am looking for.)

One to go.

I don't remember her dating Guardian though it is possible. Gangbuster had a close relationship with Lois for a while but I don't remember Lana being involved.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/31/23 12:07 AM
Can you list all the serious relationships the adult Lana Lang has had? I count four. Can you remember more?
Guessed so far: Clark Kent, Pete Ross, Vartox.
One to go.
Alpha Centurion?
I'm only remembering frivolous, smallville ones... The alien who gave her the ring, that drone bee, superman red...or was it blue, Spiderman who she then ate in that early DC/Marvel crossover..

A manhunter, who was duping her into monitoring Supes?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/01/23 01:00 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Alpha Centurion?
Good thought but he only had eyes for Lois (although he also found Contessa attractive).
Originally Posted by thoth lad
I'm only remembering frivolous, smallville ones... The alien who gave her the ring, that drone bee, superman red...or was it blue, Spiderman who she then ate in that early DC/Marvel crossover..

A manhunter, who was duping her into monitoring Supes?
none of these.

Additional clue: we have covered Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis. What's left?
Not sure if you're limiting it to comics, but she's married on the current Superman & Lois series.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/02/23 11:35 PM
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Not sure if you're limiting it to comics, but she's married on the current Superman & Lois series.
I didn't know that! Thanks. Yes limited to comics.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/10/23 01:10 AM
Can you list all the serious relationships the adult Lana Lang has had in the comics? I count four. Can you remember more?
Guessed so far: Pre-Crisis - Vartox, Clark Kent; Post-Crisis - Pete Ross

One to go.
Originally Posted by stile86
Additional clue: we have covered Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis. What's left?

The post thoth reading it age.

May need a hint for this one. Or a miracle if it's just some bloke.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/10/23 10:24 PM
Not just some bloke. Actually a rather well-known if B-list character. Even had his own comic.
Mon-El...?
Jimmy Olsen?
Originally Posted by stile86
Not just some bloke. Actually a rather well-known if B-list character. Even had his own comic.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Mon-El...?

Now I fear someone will come after me for suggesting that Mon-El is B-list tongue
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/12/23 01:12 AM
Not Mon-El nor Jimmy, another Superman-related character.
Grifter?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/14/23 02:09 AM
Not Grifter. I'm guessing no-one here has been reading New52 or Rebirth Superman comics.

This character is strongly associated with Superman, still appears currently, is a hero in his own right, has family with more super-heroics, and has had his own self-titled comic.
The Chinese Superman? (And you're correct, I have not been reading new 52 Superman at all. The new 52 effectively killed my interest in the wider DCU. I have bought very little since that began.)
alas no, have also not been reading the new 52 comics...
No DC for me either, with Legiony exceptions.

Steel had a daughter who was in armour at some point. He had a book too, and armour had the S symbol on it.Steel?
do you mean Steel's niece, Natasha Irons?
Was it niece? I've only seen her a couple of times. Still hits the hint though.
In Superman & Lois, she's the daughter of Steel and Lois Lane from an alternate Earth!

Not sure why I'm just throwing out random S&L facts in this thread, but...
If you wait long enough, a retcon will come along to fit anything you post.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/14/23 11:42 PM
Yes Thoth has it!.


Lana Lang and John Henry Irons have been in a relationship since about Superman #32 (New 52 volume). In the current version Lana became an engineer after leaving Smallville and teamed up with John on a space adventure to assist Superman and help solve a mysterious sleeping/coma illness that was affecting many of the residents of Smallville (turned out to be Brainiac). The relationship has been ongoing with the pair also combining their tech knowledge both for business and the occasional assist to Superman and I think recently advanced to the stage of engagement. Lana and John's niece (yes it is niece) Natasha get on well and the three have formed an effective functional family unit. We haven't yet seen any fallout from Natasha's recent weeks/months long stay on Warworld being captured, tortured and enslaved during Superman's attempt to free its inhabitants from Mongul but we may. (Great story by Philip Kennedy Johnson but getting a bit away from Lana now.)

The other more "recent" event in Lana's life was when she and Lois absorbed the energy flare at the death of the New52 Superman and for a short period became two Superwomen. The energy killed Lois failry quickly but Lana was ok for sometime until it began to affect her as well. Steel took her to the Fortress of Solitude to get help from the Rebirth Superman where the energy was removed and she was cured, now without super powers, and resumed her place as part of Steelworks and the Irons/Lang family.

The New52/Rebirth Superman story is convoluted - wow, how unusual for comics - with the Post-Crisis Superman ending up in the New52 universe after Convergence along with his Lois and their son Jonathon, and he ended up replacing the New52 Superman after his death with some interesting stories about people including the Justice League wondering whether to trust him. However thanks to some involvement from Mxyzptlk Jonathon managed to merge the New52 and Post-Crisis Superman and Lois retconning the universe along with it so that they had always been the Rebirth Superman and Lois. Questions about some things that happened to the New52 Superman, such as his relationship with Wonder Woman, have been largely ignored and are up to the reader's interpretation. (And people say comics can be confusing. Huh.)

Anyway Thoth's turn.
Convolution is a part of publishing life smile
Forget Byrne or Waid's Superman and Wondy as a couple. Back in 1973, in a Cary Bates tale, Superman announced his engagement to Wonder Woman, and it was all over the news. But why?
It represented a Union between Themyscira and the last survivor of Krypton?
Nope. They had a specific reason for announcing it, and looking romantically involved.
To fool a villain into thinking they were retiring ?
It was to fool a villain. Why would Supes need to dump Lois for Wondy?
To protect Lois from attack?
That was it. Supes and Wondy were quite smoochy throughout. They selflessly declared their love for each other publically. All because another woman was gently rejected by Supes. That drove her insane, and she swore vengeance on Superman's love. Knowing Lois might not survive, Wondy stepped in to be a new love. Both Wondy and Lois got to save the other. There's a fun scene where the stalker rips off a Lois mask, to reveal a hooded disguise, then rips that off to show her true face. No idea how she could breathe under all that.

Over to you Ibby!
Sounds like a nice Silver Age-y bit of hijinks!

In the “everything becomes perfect” Superman Red/Superman Blue story, the two Supermen solve a lot of problems. But a good Lex Luthor contributes one thing / what is it?
I think it was from the 70s that one. Lovely art, with that non US art style you'd see in some romance comics.

Puts on Olsen's guessing hat from the box of hats...

He removes Kryptonite from Earth?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/20/23 01:07 AM
"Oh yes, I remember it well."

Lex develops some sort of super-antibiotic/anti-everything serum which Superman distributes into water sources around the world, a few drops here and a few drops there, and it cures most of humanity's physical ailments including blindness etc. It even causes Lex's hair to grow back.
stile has it!!

Superman Red/Blue did everything else though -

1) make all kryptonite harmless, by using it to
2) recreate Krypton
3) which enabled them to restore the bottle city of Kandor
4) oh, and they also created a world for the Atlanteans
5) they removed all evil on Earth
6) and even the Phantom Zone criminals were freed, because the anti-evil rays worked on them...

but yeah, Luthor helped by curing all disease smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/20/23 11:02 PM
Loved that story as a kid, though now tend to look askance at the (common at the time) rehabilitation technique of effectively brain-washing.
They even managed to solve the Lois/Lana quandry by marrying both of them since there were now two Supermans ... Supermen ... whatever.

Which (in)famous frequent adversary of Green Lantern (Hal) originated in the Golden Age as an adversary of the Flash (Jay)?
Hector Hammond?
Evil Star?
Star Sapphire.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/22/23 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Hector Hammond?
No
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Evil Star?
No
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Star Sapphire.
Yes! In the Golden Age she was a man-hating "Queen" of an uninhabited planet and battled Jay Garrick on two occasions. I recently watched a fun Youtube which dived into her Golden Age stories and her sole Post-Crisis appearance. "Forgotten Star Sapphire Fears Men - Mistress Of The Seventh Dimension" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itir-WKBrT8

Your turn Chaim.
no joke, I was gonna guess Star Sapphire next - I remembered there was a very different Golden Age take. Deborah Darnell, right?

nice question and nice guessing!
I'd forgotten about the GA Star Sapphire!

I knew the GA Evil Star was a JSA villain, so I thought maybe he might have had some specific connection to the Flash as well!
Which two real-world, named historical figures appeared in the Atlantis Chronicles?
Hmm.... Solon and Plato?
Plato for one?

Eeks:EDE got in before me...

Madame Blavatsky for my second.
EDE is correct about Solon.

Neither Plato nor Madam Blavatsky are correct.
Wow! I thought Plato was the obvious one.

Umm... Edgar Cayce?
Certainly makes sense, although he did claim to know of the Atlantis story only from his ancestors (hence Solon).

Not Edgar Cayce.

It's a bit early, but I'll throw outa hint here: for the second person, it's less Atlantis overall, and more Tritonis specifically.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Certainly makes sense, although he did claim to know of the Atlantis story only from his ancestors (hence Solon).

Yeah, that's why I guessed Solon, as he was supposed to be Plato's source, having in turn learned the story from the Egyptians.

Hmm... not sure what the Tritonis clue would indicate, except maybe it's someone who is famous for descriptions of mer-people?

Hans Christian Anderson, maybe?
Not Andersen, but your reasoning is solid.
Hmmmm. Not sure on the tritonis hint either.

I'll go for Herodotus on the offchance it was part of his work.
Nope.
I feel like this is going to seem obvious once I hear it.

I'll try Homer, even though Sirens aren't actually mermaids.
Homer was up next for me too, EDE.

If Solon's source was Egyptian, and this being DC, is this linked to doctor fate? More specifically, a high priest or pharaoh Nabu served under. Was it Khufu?
Neither Homer nor Khufu.

Hint # 2: This individual lived within the last 1000 years.
Columbus?
Christopher Columbus is the correct answer! In the final issue of the Atlantis Chronicles, between stories that actually told us about Atlantean history, there is a small two-page chapter about one of Columbus's crew seeing a Tritonian mermaid grooming her pet manatee. When the crewman calls Columbus over to see her, Columbus sees only the manatee and tells the sailor he's been at sea for too long. This was no doubt inspired by the fact that Columbus, in one of his logs, actually reported seeing mermaids (though the log indicated that he himself was the one who saw them).

Your Q, thoth!
Good job, thoth!

I figured it was something like that, but I couldn't think of anyone well-known who actually reported mermaid sightings!
Yay! In a bit of synchronicity, there must have been a recent trailer for The Little Mermaid. There's been some tension over casting (I know. Mermaids). It was on the newsfeed I was reading at lunch, and mentioned Columbus.
So when Chaim gave the hint, it was the first name in my head.
DC's version of the Shadow ended rather abruptly after only 19 issues in the 1980s. Why was that?
Because he knew what evil lurked in the hearts of DC editorial?
Copyright issues ?
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Because he knew what evil lurked in the hearts of DC editorial?
Funny, but nope. Although it could be argued editorial had a part to play.



Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Copyright issues ?
That's what my first guess would have been. But DC had the rights to publish it, didn't impinge on anyone else's copyright, and it didn't finish due to a natural contract length.
The owners of the Intellectual Property didn't like the series creative direction?
I keep thinking that maybe it has something to do with the Alec Baldwin movie.
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
I keep thinking that maybe it has something to do with the Alec Baldwin movie.
Good guess, but not in this case.

Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
The owners of the Intellectual Property didn't like the series creative direction?
Because it was this. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? No one, as the writer killed the Shadow. But only for a while. Before bringing him back as a head (pre Pantha days) with trademark hat, on top of a large robot body. Street & Smith pulled the plug.

Some die hard Shadow fans weren't pleased with the Shadow changing guns. I guess others weren't happy about it being set in modern times. But it's a good, fun read. You could see hints of what was to come, so stopping it seemed a bit knee jerk, as they had a panic over their character.
That actually sounds pretty bad.
I agree with EDE. It sounds terrible. Just the sort of thing I'd expect from Andy Helfer.

New question coming tomorrow.
Apparently it was quickly replaced after cancelation with a more traditional Shadow series.
thanks for this thoth, quite a tidbit to learn about...
Okay. This one's a doozy.

What does Rachel Pollack's Doom Patrol run have in common with a song by Genesis called "The Cinema Show?"
They feature a transgender character?
Very close, EDE. It is a reference to a character from Greek mythology.
So... Tiresius?
That's the correct answer! Yay EDE!

One of her major storylines involves a cult named after the legendarily gender-fluid Tiresius.
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
That actually sounds pretty bad.
It does. I can get why they reacted in horror. But there's a bit going on under the surface, that was getting resolved along the arc. That was the fun bit, watching them diverge from expectations while just about keeping within what had gone before. Killing him off, to explore how the network of agents would cope was a powerful idea.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
That actually sounds pretty bad.
It does. I can get why they reacted in horror. But there's a bit going on under the surface, that was getting resolved along the arc. That was the fun bit, watching them diverge from expectations while just about keeping within what had gone before. Killing him off, to explore how the network of agents would cope was a powerful idea.

Not having read it, I can't really make a counterpoint, except to say that I think it's an idea that would work better for some series than others. And I also doubt Andy Helfer would have executed it in a way that entertained me personally. Emphasis on personally, because different people have different tastes.
I've always thought that it would be an interesting plot for a detective story to have the detective killed off and all the other stock characters (the bumbling police inspector, the not so bright but loyal sidekick, the efficient secretary, etc.) would have to band together to solve the mystery.
New question:

What historically important comic issue features a story in which the main character is recruited by John Galt to investigate a series of crimes which turn out to have been committed by James Kirk?
No guesses?

Hint: This.issue features the first appearance of several well-known characters.
The first Gold Key issue of Star Trek?
I think I've heard this one. If someone manages to guess it, well done to them. I'll pop back with what I think it is, if none gets it.
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
The first Gold Key issue of Star Trek?

It is not any Star Trek comic.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/11/23 01:55 AM
No idea but I will be interested to hear the answer.
ditto smile
I think it's a story in the comic that had Captain Marvel's first appearance. That would have been Whiz Comics.
I think the info got posted on here at some point.
Thoth has it! It's Whiz Comics #2, featuring the first appearance of Captain Marvel (and Dr. Sivana), Ibis the Invincible, Spy Smasher, and, relevant to the question, Scoop Smith!

The Scoop Smith story features the intrepid reporter investigating a radium theft from city hospital at the request of the hospital adminstratior John Galt. The perpetrator, the evil character known as by the rather common villain name of Doctor Death, turns out to be ex-hospital employee James Kirk!

As far as I know, neither John Galt nor James Kirk has any connection to the more famous fictional characters who would later bear the names, and its not unusual for characters to turn up in older fiction who bear names that would later become more famously associated with other fictional characters or even real life individuals, but it's kind of notable to have two in the same obscure little story.
nice Q EDE, and nice answering thoth!

nice bot of trivia too!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/11/23 10:37 PM
That is a cool but of trivia!! smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/12/23 01:20 AM
And the fans with those wonderfully huge memories demonstrate their value once again! Great stuff. One of the best bits of these trivia questions is learning the trivia.
With both Vision & Scarlet Witch and Mantis & Swrodsman marrying, the Avengers are a bit short staffed. How do they end up looking for new members after looking up old comrades fails?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
With both Vision & Scarlet Witch and Mantis & Swrodsman marrying, the Avengers are a bit short staffed. How do they end up looking for new members after looking up old comrades fails?

In a word: Tryouts.
Ann gets the win.

What made these unusual, was that Thor announced the tryouts on TV and they held them at Yankee Stadium .

Over to you Ann.
Yay!

Thanks, Thoth.

Little bit of Legion influence on the Avengers there? Maybe kinda sorta? Possibly unconscious on Steve Engelhart's part?

New question very soon.
Still working on the new question.

Any day now.

CalorieQueen
Okay. In the Lady Constantine miniseries, what is the truth about the relationship between Johanna Constantine and Mouse?
Bump

Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Okay. In the Lady Constantine miniseries, what is the truth about the relationship between Johanna Constantine and Mouse?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/21/23 01:31 AM
I have never read the series and have no familiarity with the characters but let's have a guess. They turned out to be siblings?
No.

Johanna claimed Mouse was her little sister, but the truth was quite different.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/22/23 10:47 AM
I also haven't read the series but I think stile might be on the right track with family...was Mouse her daughter?
Ding ding ding! Raz has the correct answer!

I'll admit I asked that question partly to get people to read the Lady Constantine miniseries, which was published 20 years ago but tends to be treated as an afterthought in the Sandman/Vertigo Canon.

It's a good story well told, and I also had one of my greatest social media experiences because of it, when I made Andy Diggle happy by telling him how much I like it.

Over to you, Raz.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/23/23 06:35 AM
Yay! Let me have a think and I will come up with something in the next couple days! smile
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/30/23 08:02 AM
Sorry for my tardiness, y'all! I have been interstate for a week!

Back in the day, the East and West Coast Avengers used to play baseball occasionally. Captain America warned Thor during one of these games that one of the West Coast Avengers cheats....who was the cheat and what caused Cap to think that?
Hawkeye, because it's something he would do?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/30/23 10:26 AM
It was Hawkeye, and while you are probably right about him generally being a big ol' cheater there was a specific thing he'd done that made Cap think that wink
Hmm did he bring a weird trick arrow along ?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/30/23 11:57 AM
Hmmmm what's the best way to answer this hahaha....

An arrow was definitely involved, but it's not really super relevant as to what particular arrow it was if that's a cryptic enough answer! laugh
Did he randomly fire an arrow somewhere, in a suspicious way?
He challenged Grandmaster to pick the one of two arrows in his hands with a trick arrowhead attached, and when Grandmaster picked, the arrow he picked had nothing on it, which made him (apparently) lose Hawkeye's game and restore all of the Avengers (and maybe 4/5 of the universe?) to life. But actually, Grandmaster had picked the correct arrow, and Hawkeye detached the trick arrowhead in his hand when Grandmaster pulled his selection.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
He challenged Grandmaster to pick the one of two arrows in his hands with a trick arrowhead attached, and when Grandmaster picked, the arrow he picked had nothing on it, which made him (apparently) lose Hawkeye's game and restore all of the Avengers (and maybe 4/5 of the universe?) to life. But actually, Grandmaster had picked the correct arrow, and Hawkeye detached the trick arrowhead in his hand when Grandmaster pulled his selection.

wow. Much more cosmic than the "he replaced the arrow on a nearby church spire, with a powered one, to fool the others on which way the wind was blowing" guess I was going for. smile
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/30/23 09:47 PM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
He challenged Grandmaster to pick the one of two arrows in his hands with a trick arrowhead attached, and when Grandmaster picked, the arrow he picked had nothing on it, which made him (apparently) lose Hawkeye's game and restore all of the Avengers (and maybe 4/5 of the universe?) to life. But actually, Grandmaster had picked the correct arrow, and Hawkeye detached the trick arrowhead in his hand when Grandmaster pulled his selection.
This is the one!

Over to you, Chaim! smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/31/23 12:16 AM
I remember that one! Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Those East Coast Avengers-West Coast Avengers baseball games were the beginning of my monthly series of articles on baseball in comic books at Royals Review!

New question: How did Electro once lure Spider-Man into a trap atop the Statue of Liberty?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/31/23 06:40 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Those East Coast Avengers-West Coast Avengers baseball games were the beginning of my monthly series of articles on baseball in comic books at Royals Review!

That's pretty cool! One wonders if Dr Druid might not have just retired to the bleachers to sip tea and let an illusion do the work for him laugh

re Electro and Spider-Man....I feel like I will know this when someone says it, but I can't remember - did he light up the torch with electricity?
No, he did not light up the statue's torch with electricity.
With Gwen Stacy already dedded, he dangled Aunt May off of it?
Nope.
A faked hostage situation?
A real hostage situation?
No hostages, real or imagined.

The Statue of Liberty has particular significance for Spider-Man.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/03/23 03:39 PM
Did he pretend to be the Human Torch?
Correct! He used his electricity to impersonate the Human Torch's flame telling him they need to meet. And when Spider-Man got there, he was ambushed by the Frightful Four, of whom Electro was their new fourth member. After capturing him, they went after the FF, with the Trapster pretending to be Spider-Man!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/04/23 12:36 AM
Good job raz. I had no idea. Good question Chaim and interesting plot.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/04/23 07:44 AM
Wooh! I knew when you said the Statue of Liberty had significance it must be about Johnny, that's their regular date spot laugh

While we're on the FF, here's one for their 4.5th member...who gave Franklin Richards his first superhero codename?
One of the Power Pack?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/11/23 11:38 PM
Bump raz
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/17/23 10:16 AM
Oops sorry thoth, I missed this...thanks stile!

It was one of the Power Pack, but which one?
Um....
Is one called Katie? I'll try that.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/18/23 08:17 AM
There is a Katie and it was her!

Here is a not great quality scan of how cute they were together laugh

[Linked Image from live.staticflickr.com]

EDIT: all yours thoth!
Whew! I've just googled to find out the names of the others. Katie has appeared elsewhere I think. In X-Men and in an alternate future story with the new mutants. So, that's possibly why I could just about remember her.

Power Pack appeared in one of the UK weekly comics I got as a kid. I remember it, because I wasn't sure why I liked it. It was certainly a much softer toned story, with younger protagonists, seemingly aimed at a younger audience. So, it was an outlier in my diet of action, war and superhero comics.

Looking back, a lot was due to the lovely Brigman art. But it was a story with interstellar scope and family bonds and squabbles offering a different set up to other titles.

I doubt the weekly comic got past the first storyline, and it's a title I've not gone back to.

New Q soon.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/19/23 02:38 AM
The first couple of years of Power Pack was awesome stuff!

There are a lot of great comic book artists but I can't think of one who draws kids (or space horsies) better than June Brigman. She also gave all the kids distinctive and unique power signatures which has been lost these days.

Bog was great when he was on the title too, but nothing beats the first couple of years of Power Pack. Sadly it kinda became generic superhero soap opera towards the end and then just outright bad.
Yeah, but then Weezie & June came back for the 1992 Power Pack Holiday Special and fixed everything.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/19/23 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Yeah, but then Weezie & June came back for the 1992 Power Pack Holiday Special and fixed everything.

Yes! I almost included that in my summary actually smile

I also like the Gurihiru stuff later but it doesn't feel the same.
What was the reason the first Infinity Inc was formed?
To fight the JSA who were being controlled by the stream of ruthlessness?
I was looking for what made them meet and stick as a group that led into them being together for the stream of ruthlessness story.
Didn't they get together to apply for JSA membership?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/20/23 05:48 AM
I thought similar to EDE except that they ended up forming a group because the JSA wouldn't let them in?
I think stile has it
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 04/29/23 04:52 AM
Bump Thoth
Well EDE got the start of it while stile added in the detail I was after. Normally, they would have to fight it out in Khundian combat courts. But whoever gets here first with the next question can take it.
thanks thothy. to keep this going again...

easy one, I hope. when Superman died fighting Doomsday, which two heroes are shown arriving at the scene too late to help?
Maxima and Ice?
you have one correct!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/10/23 04:38 AM
Ice is one. I think Maxima was too beat up from her previous fight. Was the other one Martian Manhunter in his Bloodwynd guise?
you got it stile, great memory! yup, Maxima was too beat up - so Ice and Martian Manhunter/Bloodwynd were the two on site. along with Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/12/23 05:05 AM
During Crisis how did Lex Luthor of Earth-2 die?
Brainiac killed him, E2 Luthor was all "you don't need two Luthors! stop partnering with the Earth-1 me!" and so Brainiac kills E2 Luthor. boom.
Sniped by Ibby!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/15/23 07:03 AM
Yep. Short and sweet and on character. Your turn Ibby.
thanks smile

let's see...



in Zero Hour, when Extant attacked the Justice Society, who was the lone Society member present who was not severely aged?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/15/23 11:16 AM
Was it Alan Scott?
yes it was! his ring protected him from it

the Spectre - Jay Garrick also ran to him after, but Spectre didn't intervene until the universe collapsed in on itself or something

Zero Hour was the first crossover event I read... it does not hold up tongue I read COIE a bit after Zero Hour, and was blown away at the difference in quality...
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/16/23 09:54 AM
wooh, score one for my remaining brain cell!

This could probably be a better Titans trivia question but I have just been reading some old issues tonight and it's fresh in my mind - what was the HIVE's real motivation for turning Grant Wilson into the Ravager and siccing him on the New Teen Titans?
hmmm they wanted to test their process?
Bait so that they could get Deathstroke working for them?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/17/23 07:30 AM
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Bait so that they could get Deathstroke working for them?

Bingo! Slade knocked HIVE back when they went after him directly, so they set his kid up to die fighting the Titans knowing that Slade would wanna kill the Titans in DAARRRRK RRRRRREVENGE!!!!

All yours, thoth!
good going thoth!
thanks Ibby. New Q when I next stumble across a box of comics. very soon...
What is the connection between Libra, leader of Zodiac, and one of the Avengers?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/22/23 03:42 AM
Thought I should know this and then realised I was thinking of the DC Libra. Oops.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/22/23 03:43 AM
Let's guess: Does Libra have a history with the Swordsman like Hawkeye?
It is not that stile. Oddly, the question I was going to ask was related to that. I just thought it a bit too random. On another timeline, you'd have been nearly right.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/22/23 08:38 AM
He's Mantis's dad!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/23/23 02:18 AM
Originally Posted by razsolo
He's Mantis's dad!
He is? Wow. I sure didn't know/remember that!
Raz has it. Libra is Pa Mantis, with a flashback and everything. I had no idea either.

Over to you Raz!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/25/23 10:45 AM
While we are on the Avengers....when the West Coast Avengers were sent back in time to the wild west, how did they get a message back to their own time to get someone to come rescue them?
They left a message buried somewhere?
In Firebird's ancestor's Bible.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/26/23 07:44 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
In Firebird's ancestor's Bible.
Correct!

...and then Khonshu got Moon Knight to go tell Firebird to check her bible so I guess it was a cross-religion teamup!
go teamwork!!
Originally Posted by razsolo
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
In Firebird's ancestor's Bible.
Correct!

...and then Khonshu got Moon Knight to go tell Firebird to check her bible so I guess it was a cross-religion teamup!

No doubt the inspiration for South Park's "Super Best Friends"!

Which four super-hero/super-villain scientists did Reed Richards consult with in the hopes of saving Sue and their second child?
Doctor Doom?
Red Skull?
Beast?
ummm Doctor Strange?
None of those.
Oh, I'd have definitely thought Doom...

Doctor Octopus
Doc Samson
Bruce Banner
Doctor Druid
Two out of four.

Doom was believed dead at the time...or at least as dead as Doom could ever be thought to be. It was immediately after the first Secret Wars, which Doom participated in, to the confusion of those who saw him die shortly beforehand.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/31/23 12:32 AM
Doctor Octopus
Bruce Banner
Hank Pym

Umm ... Wizard? (probably not!)
Dark Beast?
High Evolutionary?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 05/31/23 08:20 AM
It was definitely Doc Ock, I remember Reed had a cool fight against his tentacles...also I feel like Walter Langkowski was around as well?

Those two, Bruce Banner and Michael Morbius maybe?
Those are the correct four, razsolo!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/01/23 03:17 AM
Good job raz! I thought Doc Ock was there and Walter Langkowski makes sense but I would never have guessed Morbius.
nicely done!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/01/23 12:05 PM
woohoo! That was a good (but sad) issue!

While we are on the FF....the Wizard primarily sees himself as a counterpart of Reed Richards these days, but he originally became a supervillain to defeat which Marvel superhero?
The Human Torch.
Daredevil?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/02/23 01:11 AM
Spider-Man?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/02/23 08:01 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
The Human Torch.

Chaim has got it - after having his plans foiled by a 16 year old, the Wizard naturally decided to upgrade to taking on the smartest man alive tongue

(on a sidenote, I always thought it would make sense for the Wizard to become an X-Men villain as a human genius who hates superhumans and it would make him less generic than the not-really-as-good-as-Dr-Doom guy he is when he faces the Fantastic Four)

But all yours, CMK!
During the Crisis on Infinite Earths, the Monitor sent five teams of super-heroes and villains to protect his tuning forks at different points in the time-line. One of those teams was sent to the Old West, where one of the western heroes actually sort-of recognized a member of that team. Who was the one who was recognized, and why would an Old West hero recognize him or her?
Jonah Hex recognised John Stewart's GL costume, as he'd met Hal when the JLA went back in time?
That is correct!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/02/23 11:32 PM
Wow. Great memory Thoth.
nicely done! I loved COIE, those first few issues had a lot of cool character team ups
I am usually all over crisis smile

Emperor Doom has taken over the planet. Four characters are shown to be immune to the power he uses to achieve this. Which four?
Vision, Machine Man, Ultron and Wonder Man.

Re-read this one pretty recently.
Got it in one Chaim. Well done and over to you!
OK, going to veer off of the usual DC/Marvel super-hero track...

What was the true goal of the Nazi scientists working at Castle Frankenstein?
To create a vampiric pet?
Nope.
To create an "ultimate" man?
Nope, not that either.
Discover the secret of eternal youth?
Hitler's brain in a new body?
Neither of the above.

I'll give a hint: this refers to a story in the Fables series.
Attract the werewolf character so they could re-enact a universal Frankenstein Vs the Wolfman film?
Very close - they were trying to attract the werewolf (Bigby Wolf) and he and the Frankenstein monster did fight (the issue's title homaged the Universal film), but there was a genuine purpose in their wanting Bigby.
they wanted to... harness... his...popularity?
No...

I'm kind of surprised this one is so hard, as there was a running Fables thread in the Anywhere Machine while the series ran. This trivia thread has been so bogged down in 80's-and-earlier Marvel/DC super-hero stuff that I wanted to mix it up a bit but didn't want to go too obscure. Guess I whiffed on that.

If no one comes up with it in the next day, I'll give it to thoth.
I guess the people guessing aren't the same people who were part of the Anywhere Machine thread smile
Guess not.
Since thoth was pretty close, I'll give him the next question.

The answer is that they wanted to attract Bigby's attention in order to capture him and use his blood to create their own werewolves.
Ah. I was stunned I even got a very close. I've read maybe an issue or so of fables, and an article or two around it.

But werewolf mythology and a few hints would have probably got some one there. Moving from the main titles of a certain era is fun, but they often have a smaller readership and more hints are needed. Which is part of the enjoyment.

That's the second tongue in cheek answer today that's paid off for me. smile
Morgan Le fay has remade reality in her image. Seven Avengers stand against her having regained their senses. Which 7?
Captain America (Steve)
Wasp (Jan)
Warbird (Carol)
Monica Rambeau
Tony Stark
Vision
Wanda
Captain America (Steve)
Wasp (Jan)
Monica Rambeau


Tony Stark was one Cap tried to convince, but it went badly wrong.
Wanda was never in any doubt of her situation. So she's not one of the 7.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/19/23 07:42 AM
Captain America
Monica Rambeau
Hawkeye
Quasar
Wasp
I am struggling with the last two....maybe Thor and She-Hulk?
Captain America
Monica Rambeau
Hawkeye
Quasar
Wasp
Thor

And....
Black Widow?
Nope
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/20/23 02:41 AM
Bruce Banner?
ah wait I remember... Justice?
Originally Posted by stile86
Bruce Banner?
Nope

Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
ah wait I remember... Justice?

Yes! Justice was the final one, even though he hadn't been an Avenger.
yeah I remember now, having Justice in there paved the way for him becoming a full member!

I always found it interesting that these 7 were supposed to be the ones who felt so strongly about being an Avenger, that they snapped out first.

Thor, Wasp, Cap, Hawkeye, Monica, sure. Justice, fine cause they wrote him in. Quasar felt a bit like the odd one out, but I can't remember if it had something to do with his powers too
Not being really up on Marvel, I wondered if Justice being on the team was related to his alternate self from the future, but I don't know if that was part of any plots.

I can't say I was a fan of him on the team really. It was something different, and there was an arc of him proving himself. But the "gosh, I'm with the avengers" was tiresome from the start.

I thought Quasar was picked as he was one of the few who could hold off a crowd of mind controlled Avengers.
Would also explain why Thor and Monica were among the chosen smile
before I forget... next Q is...

in a What If story, Operation Galactic Storm went bad - Earth was blown up. Only a handful of Avengers are shown surviving Part 1, merging with the remnants of the Shiar Imperial Guard.

But two Avengers somehow died off-screen between Part 1 and Part 2. Who were these two?
Thanks to Fickles' reread, I've at least some idea of the Team, or this could have been really random.

Black Widow
Sersi
nope and nope, both of them clearly died in Part 1
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/21/23 07:53 AM
Gru wrote Quasar in his own title very much the same way he wrote Steve Rogers, so it made sense to me that he was one of the core Avengers that broke free of the Morganverse brainwashing - all of them are at their core characters who do the right thing for its own sake, and aren't superheroes to avenge the night or redeem themselves for being a Russian assassin or whatnot (of course, Bendis made the entire Marvel Universe one big sinkhole of cynicism once he got hold of it but that's a whole other story really....)

Quote
two Avengers somehow died off-screen between Part 1 and Part 2

I actually am not sure if I've read this! But I'll guess Wonder Man and the Vision!
nope! Vision "died" by offering himself to store some stolen tapes/data... it overwrote his personality. Wonder Man's body was blown to bits in the final battle, but they managed to save him by downloading his personality into the Vision's body!
Magdalene and Crystal
also no. Crystal showed up alive and well in Part 2, even being one of the few survivors at the end of the story

Magdalene presumably perished along with Earth.

hint: the first part of the story ran the same way the original Operation Galactic Storm did, with the Avengers splitting into three groups...
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/21/23 11:40 PM
Quasar and Hercules?
also no, Hercules died in Part 1. Quasar survives until Part 2.

bigger hint: the two characters who die off-screen were on the Shiar Imperial Guard mission.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/22/23 07:13 AM
Living Lightning and Eric Masterson?
Living Lightning is correct! Not Eric, he played a key role bringing reinforcements from Asgard.

who is the other one?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/23/23 12:20 AM
Way too long since I read that story to remember who was involved at all, lo and behold who was on what team.

Wanda?
also not Wanda

recap

In a What If story, Operation Galactic Storm went bad - Earth was blown up. Only a handful of Avengers are shown surviving Part 1, merging with the remnants of the Shiar Imperial Guard.

But two Avengers somehow died off-screen between Part 1 and Part 2. Who were these two?

*the two characters who die off-screen were on the Shiar Imperial Guard mission.

One is Living Lightning

Who is the other?

Not:

Black Widow
Sersi
Wonder Man
Vision
Magdalene
Crystal
Quasar
Hercules
Eric Masterson / Thor
Scarlet Witch
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/23/23 07:57 AM
I think the only other one I remember from the Shi'ar team is Starfox! Was it him?
nope also not him!!

there is a very key team member from the Shi'ar team who has not been guessed... think, who could have LED the team?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/24/23 02:28 AM
Wasp?
also no.

(another hint: those chosen to go to space included Reservists; and were chosen for their powers and space experience)

recap

In a What If story, Operation Galactic Storm went bad - Earth was blown up. Only a handful of Avengers are shown surviving Part 1, merging with the remnants of the Shiar Imperial Guard.

But two Avengers somehow died off-screen between Part 1 and Part 2. Who were these two?

*the two characters who die off-screen were on the Shiar Imperial Guard mission. The one not yet guessed was LEADING the mission. (another hint: those chosen to go to space included Reservists; and were chosen for their powers and space experience)

One is Living Lightning

Who is the other?

Not:

Black Widow
Sersi
Wonder Man
Vision
Magdalene
Crystal
Quasar
Hercules
Eric Masterson / Thor
Scarlet Witch
Starfox
Wasp
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/24/23 11:48 PM
Starfox/Eros?
nope
Jack of Hearts?
I know nothing about him, but didn;t he come back from space in a she-hulk comic not that long ago?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/26/23 03:18 AM
Moondragon?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/26/23 07:06 AM
I am trying to remember who led the Shi'ar team, I am pretty sure Cap was with Iron Man on the Kree homeworld....was it Monica Rambeau?
raz has it! It was Monica - considering she was a former team leader, I guess that's why she was the leader (and the writers wanted Cap and Iron Man on the same team for drama, of course!)

I think Black Widow and Wasp/Hank were also potential leaders, but all 3 were left behind on Earth.

over to you raz!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/26/23 11:31 AM
Wooh! I didn't think of Monica because she hadn't really been doing much by that point....and also her powers are pretty similar to Living Lightning's so it's weird they'd be on the same team (unless this was that weird period where she became basically a flying brick)....anyway, while we are on the Avengers:

Which founding member of the Avengers had an immediate distrust of Spider-Man when they first met, and what was the reason behind it?
Captain America, because... um... Spider-Man wasn't ... uh... public with his identity?
yeah, I was surprised at first reading that Monica was leader of that squad, but then I learned about her past team history

can't remember for sure what powers she had at that point though!
Iron Man because...um...he insults him as a Tony Stark paid enforcer?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/27/23 12:31 AM
I had thought of Monica but I disregarded her as I thought this was during her drained/powered down phase after killing Namor's mate (what was her name?) but I guess I got the timing wrong.

As for the founding avengers, wasn't it Wasp who just thought spiders were icky?
re Wasp, wow that actually sounds right! I now seem to recall a panel with her saying, wasps and spiders are natural enemies!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/28/23 10:04 AM
It was the Wasp!

I will give it to stile as it was basically because she thought spiders were icky, but it was specifically that bit about wasps and spiders being natural enemies that I was thinking of smile

(which to be honest is probably the closest thing Stan gave her to a unique personality trait outside of being weirdly horny for everyone for a female character in the 60s)
ah well, it was a start to her characterization wink

nice going stile!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/29/23 05:17 AM
Thanks Ibby. You kindof deserve it yourself because your answer was more accurate.

Good Q raz. I reread some early avengers in recent years and (almost) remembered it.

Continuing with the Avengers, they are using a modified Quinjet to attempt to penetrate a bubble of time apparently created by a renegade Celestial that has destroyed everyone else who approaches it. However all is not as it seems as they are actually being mind-controlled - but by who?
thanks stile, but I only recalled it because you triggered a memory smile teamwork!

re renegade Celestial, uh... Red Skull?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 06/29/23 08:08 AM
I remember this one! It was Nebula, and Shulkie nearly killed her when she got unbrainwashed! (although she later ended up being Kang's ex Ravonna if I recall my convoluted timey wimey stuff correctly)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/01/23 07:19 AM
Spot on raz. Yes she at first appeared to be a female Kang amongst the huge council of Kangs, but later revealed herself to be Nebula in the form the Avengers had previously encountered in space claiming to be the granddaughter of Thanos, and in this form she used knowledge and technology stolen from some of the Kangs (using her womanly wiles) to mind control the Avengers and attempt to enter the Bubble of Time. She failed and was lost in the improbability regions around the bubble until later encountering the Fantastic Four there (both the Avengers story and the FF story were written by Walt Simonson) and only much later in a Mark Gruenwald story was it revealed that she was not in fact Nebula but an alternate version of Ravonna who was now his sworn enemy. Gotta love comics.

Your turn raz.
whew all these retcons make my head hurt lol
Dear Sentients,
This is ridiculous! Our tax money is going to that Time Institute. And there they are, selling off time machines to alternate universes. They don't even care who knows! Expecting people not to spot a Time Bubble, by calling it a Bubble of Time. That Rond Vidar is no better than his dad, if you ask me.
Yours sincerely,
Enraged from Rimbor
I'm gad things have improved on Rimbor, now they actually pay their taxes!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/02/23 09:06 AM
Okay, I got one for y'all!

Besides the fact that they are all ladies, what do Marvel Girl, the Invisible Woman, She-Hulk, Storm, Scarlet Witch, Dagger and Andromeda have in common?
ummm have they all gotten married at some point?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/03/23 04:15 AM
Did they all wear costumes that at one stage showed their belly buttons?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/03/23 07:12 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
ummm have they all gotten married at some point?
This is actually SO close to the answer, but no laugh

Originally Posted by stile86
Did they all wear costumes that at one stage showed their belly buttons?
You know what, they probably all did at some point or another but that is not the connection either wink
so close to the answer! ahh!!

they're not all mothers I think... ah, let me think about it a bit more!
They all appeared at the wedding of a certain character?
They were the seven "Brides of Set" in the Atlantic Attacks storyline.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/04/23 03:25 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
They were the seven "Brides of Set" in the Atlantic Attacks storyline.
Of course! Chaim displays his marvellous memory again.
not gonna lie, with "Andromeda" I was thinking of our very own Laurel Gand lol
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 07/04/23 07:18 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
They were the seven "Brides of Set" in the Atlantic Attacks storyline.
Got it in one!

And I almost put in an Andromeda disclaimer, but it was too late by the time I thought about it haha
My andromeda mix up is more due to my relative lack of Marvel knowledge anyhow smile
My memory almost failed me, I had a different answer posted, and then I suddenly remembered and edited the post before any new posts came in.

Which Avenger was avoided by other Avengers due to that person's offensive odor?
Was it Jack of Hearts? I can imagine that zero energy was smelly
Nope, not Jack.
This was D-Man (also known as Demolition Man), right at the start of the Busiek/ Perez run. He was living with an underground community, where water was scarce.
Correct, Thoth!
DC's Blackest Night and later zombie based series, weren't the first time a host of DC characters came back from the grave.
Name any 5 characters who would have risen from Hades in DC's War of the Gods?
hmmm I read War of the Gods but...

Hippolyta (on the off chance she was dead then)
Earth-2 Wonder Woman?
Earth-2 Superman?
Vibe?
Steel (Hank Heywood)?
None of those. The right era though.
oooh 0/5, ok keep trying. hmmm who else would be...

Black Adam?
Supergirl?
Hercules?
Red Tornado?
Kole? tongue
Another blank there. Lots of these characters had died in the few years leading up to the event.
Will Payton?
Peacemaker?
Beth Chapel?
Yolanda Montez?
Jericho?
I remember that scene. I think some of them were...

Blue Beetle Dan Garrett
Lord Volt
Mindboggler
Sparkler
Lady Liberty
None of Ibby's, but Chaim's is good enough for me.


Blue Beetle Dan Garrett
Lord Volt
Mindboggler
Sparkler
Lady Liberty

Others included: Tula, Abin Sur, Katma Tui, Mr Terrific, Skyman, Star Sapphire (I think), Commander Steel, Iron Major, Silent Majority, Mirror Master, Rick Flag, Vigilante, Valda, Golden Eagle and Zatara.

A nice little creepy moment in a mess of a cross over. Even one of the characters called it convoluted.

Over to you Chaim!
Yeah, it needed better coordination, too many issues were released out of order. And quite frankly, involving Lobo and L.E.G.I.O.N. was just totally nonsensical. Lobo just had to be everywhere.

Which two puppets did the Ventriloquist use while escaping from Arkham during Knightfall, before he retrieved Scarface?
Punch and Judy?
Nope.

Just to be clear, these are not known historical puppets that are famous for some reason. Just wanted the names that he assigned to the two puppets he used during that storyline at the time.
Lois and Clark?
No.
Aarghyll, the sock villain and a Joker hand puppet?
Hmm....I'm tempted to give this one to you for being partially - very partially - right, because it doesn't look like anyone else has a clue.

I'll see if anyone else remembers that bit from Knightfall over the next day before settling for that.
Joker and Catwoman?
Nope.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Hmm....I'm tempted to give this one to you for being partially - very partially - right, because it doesn't look like anyone else has a clue.

I'll see if anyone else remembers that bit from Knightfall over the next day before settling for that.

A possible victory for comedy guesses!

Reading the question again, if he's just escaped and it's not being played for laughs, he'd take what he could get. So a sock and... a hand puppet from Arkham's therapy room wnere they'd get the inmates to discuss their feelings through it.?
Batman and Joker?
Thoth has it close enough.

Yes, the first one was a sock - when he escaped from Arkham, being the psycho that he is, the first thing he did was remove a sock from his foot and make it a hand puppet to talk with, and he named it "Socko."

The second one was a puppet not from Arkham, but from a toy store that he immediately robbed, and was a duck named (I believe) Quacko.

Of course, his real purpose was to look for Scarface, his master. He had Quacko holding a gun and Socko playing good puppet-bad puppet to get a policeman to divulge the location of Scarface. Socko telling the cop, "I can't control him...he's a wild duck!"

Eventually, he found Scarface and discarded the duck, but he kept Socko. Scarface, not interested in sharing the Ventriloquist, uncorked this gem to him: "This guy stinks! You should change your partners more often!"

In the end, Scarface and Socko shot one another, leading to Ventriloquist lying unconscious of blood loss from both his hands and eventually back in Arkham.

Yours, thoth!
And there was me thinking they didn't play it for laughs. Socko and Quacko.
Coming soon to Bits... Socko / Argh!Yll! team up and Quacko's infiltration of the Legion of Super Pets.

Here, a new Q hopefully tomorrow...
What city was destroyed in Marvel's New Universe?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/07/23 02:27 AM
Pittsburgh? I think. Isn't that why they called it the Pitt?
It was and they did. Over to you stile!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/08/23 04:18 AM
In Byrne's retelling of the first encounter between the Dark Knight and the Man of Steel, what device does Batman use to stop Superman from arresting him and taking him to the police?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/08/23 07:08 AM
Is that the one where Bruce has the personal forcefield set up to blow up an innocent person if Superman gets too close to him? (and then we find out at the end the innocent person was Batman himself?)
that sounds very familiar!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/09/23 02:10 AM
Exactly what I was thinking of raz! From Byrne's Man of Steel mini-series #3. Great work. Your turn.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/09/23 07:36 AM
Wooh!

Someone convinced the Avengers that they'd been a founding member of the team, who was that character?
Captain America? tongue
The Grandmaster's daughter, though I forget her name. Victory? (Sounds legit, I think the character was meant as a parody of the Justice League character Triumph.)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/10/23 04:07 AM
Sounds right Chaim.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/11/23 07:20 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Captain America? tongue

hahaha he might as well be, but no the answer is....

Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
The Grandmaster's daughter, though I forget her name. Victory? (Sounds legit, I think the character was meant as a parody of the Justice League character Triumph.)

Voyager actually, but close enough! Over to you, CMK!
I knew it began with a V!

When the Thing retrurned to Earth after the Secret Wars, most of Earth's heroes were battling an invasion of Dire Wraiths, but not Reed and Sue Richards. Who were they fighting instead?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/13/23 02:24 AM
Ooh, that's a tricky one - for me at least. I remember the Secret Wars at least and how Ben stayed behind, and his "break-up" with Johnny over Alicia and with Reed over the loss of his human side. Who did they fight? The only one I can think of is that confrontation with Dr Doom that ended in his death (apparently).
Galactus?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/13/23 12:26 PM
Was it Mephisto?
Raz is correct, it was Mephisto! (It actually tied in to the Dire Wraiths invasion, because their evil was powering him, and when Rom and the heroes defeated them, Mephisto's power suddenly dropped.)
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/14/23 07:45 AM
Oof good guess! I couldn't think of any other bad guys Reed & Sue fought on their own without the FF there before they joined the Avengers for 5 minutes...

Speaking of which, which villain/s were responsible for Reed and Sue Richards joining the Avengers?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/14/23 11:51 AM
Frightful Four?
Kang?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/15/23 08:21 AM
Not Kang or the Frightful Four!

It was someone who is usually very much NOT an FF villain...
Ultron?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/15/23 11:49 AM
Not Ultron....I might have made this too hard lol

It is a LADY villain (at least partially) if that helps!
Nebula?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/16/23 07:54 AM
Nope, not Nebula!

I will give y'all another clue....it was Franklin specifically that she was after!
Morgan Le Fay?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/16/23 01:25 PM
Not Morgan Le Fay.....it was someone who has traditionally been more of an X-villain...
Selene?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/17/23 02:44 AM
Selene sounds like a good guess.

Mystique?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/18/23 06:17 AM
Not Selene or Mystique....it is someone who has a particular interest in mutant kids (back when Franklin was still allowed to be a mutant)
Nanny?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/19/23 03:34 AM
Ooh good guess Ibby.
Nanny and mutant children are… well… smile
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/20/23 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Nanny?

Bingo!

During Inferno, Nanny and the Orphan-Maker abducted Franklin and tried to kill Reed and Sue (Nanny is nothing if not optimistic!)

All yours, IB!
Ah Nanny, one of the more disturbing villains out there. But there are a lot of disturbing villains out there so…

Let’s see…

In the Red Winter storyline, several Justice League reservists are called in. League charter said that active members take priority re leadership. Which league member had to lead the reserves ?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/21/23 02:37 AM
Roy Harper? Was he going by Arsenal at that stage?
nope, this was way before Roy actually joins the League
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/21/23 12:58 PM
Just based on the title I will throw out a random guess - was it Ice?
Rocket Red?
Nope, Ice was on leave of absence then, and Rocket Red was not an active member at this time

In the Red Winter storyline, several Justice League reservists are called in. League charter said that active members take priority re leadership. Which league member had to lead the reserves ?

Not:

Roy Harper
Ice
Rocket Red
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/22/23 03:51 AM
Oh was Guy still around then?
that was the Guy era indeed! But it wasn't Guy!

clue time: the Red Winter is a geographic clue, and there was a time when the League was a regional thing...
Well, yeah, I figured that it was likely a geographic clue, hence my Rocket Red guess.

Power Girl?
Nope
Captain Atom?
Nope

In the Red Winter storyline, several Justice League reservists are called in. League charter said that active members take priority re leadership. Which league member had to lead the reserves ?

Not:

Roy Harper
Ice
Rocket Red
Guy Gardner
Captain Atom
Power Girl
Elongated Man?
Nope
Wonder Woman?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/23/23 12:23 AM
Sounds like JLE so ... Metamorpho?
you have the correct team, stile, but it is neither Wonder Woman nor Metamorpho
Crimson Fox?
you got it!

Crimson Fox was the only active Leaguer available then, so they had her lead the Reserves.

instead, Crimson Fox figured out that Sonar was spying on them using transmitters hidden in their costumes... so she ditched her costume and made her way onwards to Moscow. unfortunately, she also ditched the Reserves, who were (mostly) captured and brainwashed.

over to you CMK
here's a breakdown of the involved heroes in Red Winter

Sonar takes advantage of the break-up of the Soviet Union to take control of Russia. He brainwashes former JL member Rocket Red. Rocket Red captures Flash (Wally West) and Doctor Light (Kimiyo Hoshi), who are also brainwashed.

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) fights the Rocket Reds and goes amnesiac, but his ring transports him to safety.

Aquaman and Power Girl go to Atlantis, to ostensibly lead an Atlantean embassy to Russia.

Elongated Man is put into a coma by Sonar's weapons in Modora, and Sue Dibny pretends to cozy up to Sonar while biding time.

That left Crimson Fox to lead a bunch of Reserves on a fact-finding mission to Russia: Metamorpho, Tasmanian Devil, Huntress (Helena Bertinelli), Black Canary, Mister Miracle, Blue Jay, General Glory. (The Justice League America are temporarily unavailable due to the Death of Superman/Doomsday attack). The Reserves are aided by the Justice Society (Green Lantern - Alan Scott, Flash - Jay Garrick, Wildcat, Atom - Al Pratt, Dr. Mid-nite), but eventually all are captured (except the unconscious Blue Jay; Jay Garrick had started shaking Wally out of his brainwashing, and Wally throws the unconscious Blue Jay off into the air so he has an excuse to escape from Sonar).

**continuity is a bit iffy here, as the Justice League Europe are also seen attending Superman's funeral around this time, in other books...

Wally hooks up with Maya (first appearance), who is escaping from her family. The Justice League America branch also shows up (Wonder Woman, Fire, Guy Gardner, Booster Gold, Maxima, Bloodwynd, Agent Liberty).

**Again, continuity is a bit iffy here - Fire is shown with her powers, which she lost fighting Doomsday; Bloodwynd's dialogue implies that Booster Gold's suit and gadgets have been destroyed, but he still wears his suit and is shown in the big fight scenes; Blue Beetle and Ice are correctly absent; and Guy Gardner should have been elsewhere around this time.

Crimson Fox also gets the Global Guardians to join the League (Sonar had fooled them into thinking the League were illegally interfering with Russian politics... huh that sounds familiar!)

The storyline ends with a sound (heh) defeat of Sonar; Aquaman stepping down; and Maya, Metamorpho and Tasmanian Devil all joining the JL Europe, which becomes JL International.
Whew, quite a summary.

What was Barry Allen's favorite poem?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 08/29/23 09:09 AM
Sorry CMK I really don't know - The Ancient Mariner?
Sorry, no clue either.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/09/23 02:58 AM
Bump CMK
I forfeit! I'm happy with CMK asking a new question
Ooh, forgot it was me asking!!

Hint: It was revealed by Wally West in a Secret Origins issue featuring the origins of both Barry and Wally.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/11/23 04:45 AM
Sorry CMK I still have no idea. Can you give us any hint as to the topic? Is it speed related?
I'll throw out another hint - the title of the story is "The Unforgiving Minute", which is a phrase from the poem in question.

If this doesn't get any further, I'll reveal the answer and think of a different question.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/12/23 02:55 AM
My lack of literary knowledge is showing. Sorry. Doesn't ring any bells.
Ditto
OK, I'll cave. The poem is If by Rudyard Kipling. The lines relevant to the story are the last four.

I'll stick with my Barry Allen theme, though. Iris Allen was (believed) killed by Reverse-Flash at a costume party. What costume was she wearing? (Barry was "disguised" as the Flash.)
Some kind of princess?
Not a princess.
Odette from Phantom of the Opera?
Nope.
Snow White? (I know she was wearing some sort of dress, and I vaguely remember recognizing the character...)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/13/23 09:10 AM
Thanks for the answer CMK. I've heard of If but never read it. Now I can.

Was Iris dressed as a superheroine?
She was dressed as a superheroine. Care to guess which one? (And not Snow White.)
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/13/23 11:33 AM
It was Batgirl, right?
Raz sounds fairly positive, but I'll throw in a guess of Supergirl
Raz is correct, she was dressed as Batgirl!
Raz is on a roll!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/14/23 07:24 AM
There are like two Barry Allen Flash comics I remember from the 80s and that is one of them lol

I read this one just the other day, so: which members of the Avengers helped the Two-Gun Kid and his cowboy pals face Kang in the Wild West?

(not to be confused with that time the WEST Coast Avengers went back in time to team up with Two-Gin Kid and pals)
Wasp and Ant-Man?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/15/23 08:10 AM
It was not Wasp and Ant-Man!
Iron Man and Thor?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/15/23 02:22 PM
Thor was one of them!

There were two more with him as well.
that helps smile

Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/16/23 12:59 AM
Hawkeye? I think he mentions a previous adventure with Two-Gun Kid.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/16/23 11:07 PM
It was in fact the first time Hawkeye met Two-Gun Kid!

So we got Thor and Hawkeye, there's one more....I will give y'all a clue, she was a lady Avenger (and there are not a lot of women members to chose from at this stage in their publishing)

EDIT: also, no to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/17/23 05:20 AM
Ms Marvel (Carol Danvers)?
Moondragon?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/17/23 01:20 PM
IB has it, it was Thor, Hawkeye and Moondragon!

She left the team pretty much as soon as they got back from the Wild West, which was a shame...I think she and Hellcat would have made interesting long-term additions!

Over to you, IB!
also interesting that the Avengers hasn't really had a lot of telepaths on their roster - unlike the X-Men, which is full of them!

ok let's see...

In JLA/Avengers, who does Kyle Rayner call "Leather Girl"?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/18/23 01:26 AM
Natasha?
nope
Carol Danvers? (Warbird at that point in time)
yup, it was Carol!
Marvel's kid-team Power Pack featured four siblings who originally had the following powers:

Alex - Gravity
Julie - Speed and flight
Jack - Density control
Katie - Disintegration and energy ball shooting

Two years later, their powers got swapped. Who ended up with whose powers? (On that occasion - I think they later got their originals back)
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/18/23 03:57 PM
I got this, I love Power Pack!!

Alex became Destroyer with the energy blasting power

Julie became Molecula, mistress of density (although I'm not sure if she ever actually used that name in practice)

Jack got the gravity power as Counterweight

And Katie became Starstreak with the velocity power
You do know your Power Pack! Next question to you, raz!

(Julie at least declared the name herself when she got the new powers. I don't recall Jack ever using the name "Counterweight", though, I think it was only ever used in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe. At the very least, it appeared in the Handbook at least a year before it might have appeared in a real story.)
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/19/23 08:49 AM
Yay!

Metamorpho once gave a very satisfying beatdown to one Mr Guy Gardner, does anyone know how he accomplished this?
hmm was it him latching onto Guy using his elemental powers?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/19/23 12:02 PM
Not latching on to him...
if it was a beatdown, I guess he didn't just suffocate him smile did Metamorpho squish him under a big block of metal?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/20/23 12:31 AM
Did he turn to sulphur which is yellow?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/20/23 07:43 AM
He did not squish him under a block of metal, nor did he turn to sulphur but I will say that stile is on the right track!
did he turn into some kind of flame-retardant gas and knock Guy out?

I vaguely remember, but I think this was in the I Can't Believe It's not the JL mini, was this the alternate-reality Metamorpho?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/20/23 12:41 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
did he turn into some kind of flame-retardant gas and knock Guy out?

I vaguely remember, but I think this was in the I Can't Believe It's not the JL mini, was this the alternate-reality Metamorpho?

I don't think I read that whole mini - for clarification, this occurred during the time we had both a JLA and JLE title.

Also, it was not a flame-retardant gas.
Did he turn into some yellow metal?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/21/23 04:24 AM
Gold?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/22/23 07:09 AM
Originally Posted by stile86
Gold?

It was gold!

In JLE #11, Metamorpho turns himself into gold and proceeds to beat the crap out of Guy (although he does also admit that any Green Lantern with half a brain could probably have come up with a way to stop him as gold isn't a particularly strong metal).

You nearly got the home run IB but I will give it to stile as he came up with the exact answer...good work y'all!
nice going stile! and nice Q, raz!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/23/23 07:57 AM
Now you have said it I can remember that comment by Rex about how there had to be several ways to beat gold. Good question.

Why does Lex Luthor save Superman from being killed by Metallo?
Lex wanted to be the one to kill Superman - only he could have that honor
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/24/23 04:04 AM
You got it. Your turn.
I still remember that scene... very nasty Lex. very, very nasty

lessee...


When Captain Atom was kicked out of the JLE, who was appointed leader in his place?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/24/23 11:40 PM
Power Girl?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/25/23 07:05 AM
I wanna say....Catherine Colbert?
nope to both!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/26/23 12:02 AM
It wasn't the Fox, was it? (one of them)
Also nope!

it was a male hero, and one could say that this male hero's nomination was an act of sabotage...
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/26/23 07:23 AM
WAIT

was it that Beefeater guy??
nope! it was a full-fledged, official JL member
Flash?
Nope!
Rocket Red?
Nope!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/27/23 08:55 AM
hmmm...Blue Jay?
you got it! it was Blue Jay!

Rolf Heimlich is appointed UN Liaison to the JLI branches. Heimlich is secretly Queen Bee's drone, and tries to subtly undermine the League. Captain Atom is fired for insubordination; and is replaced by Blue Jay - much to everyone's surprise, including Blue Jay's!

Elongated Man and Blue Beetle are fired for being "useless" and incompetent, while Ice is fired for being too "shy" and "passive" to be a hero.

Rolf was a fairly convincing mole, as his reasons for firing the four were actually above-board and reasonable. He even replaced Ice and Beetle with Dr. Light and Tasmanian Devil, to keep the JLA from being shorthanded,
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/29/23 01:02 AM
I remember that now but sure didn't before you described the story. Totally forgot about Blue Jay.
Blue Jay does tend to be overlooked smile
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/29/23 09:22 AM
Well he's a little guy I guess laugh

I remembered Ice and Beetle getting booted off the team during Breakdowns (and poor Little Mermaid of course) but I forgot about all the JLE stuff!

Okay, new question! What was the (at the time) unique reason for the Avengers inviting Falcon to join the team?
was it... affirmative action?

ah poor Mermaid... they did retcon her to be alive in JLE 50 (her evil twin died instead!), but that retcon seems to have been retconned away...
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 09/29/23 12:40 PM
It was affirmative action! They did some interesting stuff with Sam feeling a bit out of his depth and tokenistic, but he showed that he deserved his place on the team IMO

All yours IB!
sounds like a good outcome in the end, and sounds like they were realistic about Sam's path! from how you describe, anyway smile

let's see...

in DC vs. Vampires, who does away with Andrew Bennett and Zan?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/07/23 09:36 AM
Just throwing out a guess, but if Zan is involved...is it Jayna?
Nope! Jayna wasn’t there at all
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/12/23 11:35 AM
Was it someone who is normally considered a magic user?
not a magic user, no
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/16/23 06:25 AM
Was it a normally heroic character?
yes! it was a normally heroic character

in DC vs. Vampires, who does away with Andrew Bennett and Zan?

- not Jayna
- not a magic user
- is a normally heroic character
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/17/23 01:42 AM
Someone associated with the Bat family?
also no
clue: this character is one of the "big guns" good guys, so it was particularly shocking that this character was the murderer
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/19/23 11:16 PM
One of the Flashes?
no, but close... The second murder committed by the murderer was one of the Flashes!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/21/23 02:19 AM
J'onn J'onzz?
nope, but keep going!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/22/23 12:48 AM
Someone with Green in their codename?
yes! someone with Green in their code name smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/23/23 01:55 AM
Green Arrow?
nope!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/24/23 02:07 AM
Hal Jordan?
you got it!

Hal was the first hero revealed to be turned. When Andrew Bennett came to warn the Justice League, Hal revealed himself and murdered Andrew... plus witness Zan.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/24/23 11:58 PM
Some of those calamitous "imaginary" stories can be quite intriguing but I haven't read the vampires one.

Let's try this.

When and why did Suprgirl "kill" multiple copies of herself?
sometimes I do get a weird fascination from seeing how bad these stories can get! and am glad that they are not in continuity

re Supergirl, did it have to do with an illusion?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/26/23 12:46 AM
No illusion.
Robot duplicates? (maybe created by Brainiac 5?)
Matrix-Supergirl clones created by Lex Luthor "Jr."?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 11/28/23 09:50 AM
CMK has it.

I was perhaps cheating a bit since most would naturally think of Kara, but yes this was from the post-Crisis era where Supergirl is an artificial protoplasmic being from the Pocket Universe, and is in a relationship with Lex Luthor Jr, the supposed long lost son and heir of the original deceased Lex Luthor.
Decades past but if anyone didn't know Junior was actually the original Lex's brain in a cloned body.
Matrix discovered that Lex had used samples of her protoplasm to create numerous copies of herself, several distorted in disturbing weaponised ways. The clones appeared not yet "born" and in a rage at his apparent betrayal Matrix destroys them.

Your turn CMK.
Oops, neglected to check this thread after posting - and it's been idle for almost a month!

Which super-villain became a supporting character in Blue Devil's series?
um... Trickster?
Correct!
hah! lucky guess - I do remember Trickster turning semi-good around that time

ok...

in the Death of Superman, Doomsday begins his rampage by killing some innocent forest creatures. Name one of the two species we first see him kill.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/21/23 11:40 PM
He squashes a bird that lands in his hand.
Not sure about the other. A deer?
you got both right! good memory!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/23/23 01:11 AM
Being a Superman fan helps.

During Blok's tryout facing a room full of massive cylinders trying to crush him, he succeeds by simply walking through and the test is powerless to stop him.
What non-Legion character faces a similar challenge and again succeeds by simply walking through without being stopped?
Thing?
Juggernaut?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/25/23 01:01 AM
It was Kitty Pryde! She closed her eyes and just walked from one side of the Danger Room to the other smile
ooh of course ! I was also thinking an intangible hero coulda done it!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/25/23 09:03 AM
Yay raz! As it happens I had read the Kitty Pryde story before I read the Blok story and the comparison struck me instantly. The cover date of the two comics is only a month apart with X-Men #141 being January 1981 and LSH #272 being February 1981, so it appears that similar ideas just happened to occur to the various writers.

If everyone kept thinking of other strong unstoppable characters I was going to give a clue of their power sets being almost opposite, but raz didn't need that clue!

Take it away raz.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/26/23 06:46 AM
I had no idea Blok and Kitty got introduced so close together! For some reason I always thought Blok came along much later! Good pick, stile! smile

While we are on the topic of similarities across different comic book companies....one writer took his pet character's story across THREE separate comic book companies. Who was the writer, which comic book companies were they and who was the character?
Steve Engelhart

Marvel, DC, Eclipse

Mantis
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/27/23 11:07 AM
Ann has got it!

I figured Marvel and DC would be the easy ones, but good work remembering Eclipse as well!

Take it away! smile
Thanks, Raz. FTR, I almost used the DC version of Mantis (Willow,) in a fan fic. I might still do it someday. smile

Question: In the original West Coast Avengers miniseries by Roger Stern, Bob Hall, and Brett Breeding, which villainess did Tigra disguise herself as in order to help defeat Graviton?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/27/23 12:32 PM
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Thanks, Raz. FTR, I almost used the DC version of Mantis (Willow,) in a fan fic. I might still do it someday. smile

That would be cool actually, I am into it!

I feel like Tigra might have been Madame Masque? It's been a long time since I read the original mini, but that rings a bell!
Thanks for the encouragement, Raz. We shall see. smile

And your guess is correct -- Tigra was disguised as Madame Masque!

The floor is yours! smile
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/27/23 12:51 PM
Let's stick with Tigra as she is one of my favourite and most underrated Avengers...who was the first villain that Greer Grant Nelson and Spider-Man teamed up to defeat?
hmmm Rhino?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 12/28/23 12:31 AM
Sandman?
Lizard?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/05/24 12:08 PM
Not Rhino, Sandman or Lizard!
Black Cat?
Kamgaroo?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/06/24 12:09 AM
Kingpin?
(We could be at this a while!)
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/06/24 10:11 AM
Not Black Cat (although, that could have been a fun story!)

Not Kangaroo or Kingpin either.

I will give y'all a clue as some of you are on the right track anyway...it is one of Spidey's classic rogues!
Doctor Octopus?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/06/24 11:28 PM
Vulture?
Molten Man?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/09/24 06:38 AM
Not Dr Octopus, Vulture or Molten Man...

Another clue: It is a Spider-Man enemy whose natural MO lends itself pretty naturally to having Tigra as an enemy!
Was there a mouse or a dog… tongue oh, Kraven the Hunter?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/10/24 06:21 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Was there a mouse or a dog… tongue oh, Kraven the Hunter?


IB has it! Kraven put Tigra in a mind-control collar and sicced her on Spidey, figuring that one of them would kill the other and then the survivor would be wracked with guilt...I am sure Squirrel Girl would have given him a very stern talking to!

All yours, IB!
Squirrel Girl would have taken Kraven off the board fast! thanks for the clue, raz!

ok let's see....

in Zero Hour, Extant killed and/or severely aged most of the active Justice Society members. Who was the only one present that came out unscathed?
Alan Scott?
yes it was!
Which super-hero is considered, in the DC Universe, to be a pivotal figure in the civil rights movement?
Black Lightning?
Nope.
Amazing Man?
Amazing Man is correct!
nice!

ok let's see...

In Red Winter, Sonar captures and brainwashes a bunch of Justice League Reservists. Who was the first one freed of their brainwashing?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/16/24 10:54 AM
Let's go for a wild card to kick it off, was it General Glory?
nope!
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/16/24 12:57 PM
Was it Guy Gardner being too ornery (or dumb) to mind control?
also nope!

hint: this was likely to set this character up for a major development!
Power Girl?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/17/24 12:50 AM
Black Canary?
nope for both!

it was a male hero. and the big development happened in the same issue
Rocket Red?
nope! while Guy Gardner probed Rocket Red's mind, Red was unconscious at the time - Guy first explicitly undid the brainwashing of another Reservist.

Recap

In Red Winter, Sonar captures and brainwashes a bunch of Justice League Reservists. Who was the first one freed of their brainwashing?

- a male hero
- this was likely to set this character up for a major development! - which happened in the same issue
- not: General Glory, Guy Gardner (not brainwashed), Power Girl (not brainwashed), Black Canary, Rocket Red
Blue Beetle?
Blue Jay?
nope and nope
Animal Man?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/18/24 08:35 AM
Metamorpho?
nope and nope to both


Metamorpho is closest, in that Metamorpho and this character went through a certain change together... smile
Captain Atom?
nope, Captain Atom didn't appear in that story

Recap

In Red Winter, Sonar captures and brainwashes a bunch of Justice League Reservists. Who was the first one freed of their brainwashing?

- a male hero
- this was likely to set this character up for a major development! - which happened in the same issue, and together with Metamorpho
- not: General Glory, Guy Gardner (not brainwashed), Power Girl (not brainwashed), Black Canary, Rocket Red, Animal Man (did not appear), Metamorpho, Captain Atom (did not appear)
Flash?
Nope, Flash did shake off the brainwashing earlier - but he was an active League member, not a Reservist wink

what other clues will help... this character, earlier in the issue, went head-to-head with Wonder Woman - which was likely one of the reasons this character was freed from brainwashing first (apart from, well, proximity)
Aquaman?
Nope, Aquaman was not brainwashed. you're close in terms of the power set though
Martian Manhunter?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/18/24 11:17 PM
Tempest?
nope to both

we're getting further afield with these last two. this character joined the JLE team in that issue, helping turn it into a JLI with its expanded scope and manpower

Metamorpho and Maya joined alongside him.

this character was previously already a Justice League member, briefly, in the Giffen era.
Hal Jordan?
nope, Hal was already a member then. also not brainwashed (but he did become amnesiac for a while during the story)
Tasmanian Devil?
you got it!!!

While brainwashed, Taz was already being set up for greatness - we see him taking on Wonder Woman, and Diana commenting on how surprisingly strong Taz is. we evne get a panel of Taz smashing Diana into the ground.

Guy Gardner probes the mind of an unconscious, still brain-washed Rocket Red, and uses that to un-brainwash Taz (the first one he frees in this way).

After Sonar is defeated, Aquaman resigns. Hal remarks that the League loses a lot of strength... and Taz raises his hand, saying he has plenty of strength!


Other Reserves brainwashed include Black Canary, Huntress, General Glory, Metamorpho. Blue Jay escapes brainwashing because Flash (Wally) was resisting his OWN brainwashing (with a nudge from Jay Garrick), and tosses an unconscious Blue Jay away, pretending that Blue Jay is escaping. Mister Miracle manages to escape from the brainwashing machine first.

Wally and Dr. Light (Kimiyo) also get brainwashed, but were full League members as of this story. JSA members Alan Scott, Jay Garrick, Wildcat, Al Pratt and Charles McNider also get brainwashed.

the JL America (Guy, Fire, Booster Gold, Wonder Woman, Bloodwynd, Maxima, Agent Liberty) guest star, but are not brainwashed in this story. Aquaman is captured and Elongated Man injured and Hal Jordan turned amnesiac, but not brainwashed. Sonar coerces Sue into coming to his side (with E-Man's life as a trade), but Sue only pretends to go along and is undermining Sonar from within.

Crimson Fox and Power Girl round out the cast of full JL members, and Maya is introduced.

over to you, CMK
During the Millennium crossover, which other hero revealed to Superman the nature of the Manhunters' infiltration of Smallville?
Wally West?
Nope.
Martian Manhunter?
Not J'onn.
Batman?
Not him either
Hal Jordan?
Not Hal.
Booster Gold?
Captain Atom?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/22/24 10:16 PM
Spectre
stile has it, it was the Spectre!!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/24/24 12:43 AM
I remember it well. I've read that comic many times, how the Manhunters had hoped to capture the infant Kal-El but failed and so set up numerous unwitting sleeper agents in Smallville to monitor him and follow him across the world, most notably Lana Lang, and now those agents - more than half the town - appeared dead. It took Spectre to discover that they were not truly dead but rather it was a ruse to keep Superman busy and unable to interfere with their plans during Millennium.

Crazy fun story. And in a side item, while recapping the events leading up to Millennium in that so convenient way heroes used to do in their thoughts, Spectre thinks of the many heroes defending the new chosen ones as a "veritable Legion of Super-Heroes".

In the Ultimate Universe the Maker (Reed Richards) is defeated and surrendered by his "people" in the City thanks to the convincing arguments by "Anthony", Tony Stark's sentient brain tumour. Yet later The Maker escapes and with Pietro, Hulk and Kang takes over the world and discovers the explanation behind Tony's brain tumour. What is that explanation?
sentient brain tumor... wow! that stunned me for a moment smile
Good spot on The Spectre's Legion name drop, stile
There's a lost Tale of the Legion where Kid Spectre joins the team.

Horror stories would have the brain tumour as actually an unborn twin, whose intelligence has survived.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/25/24 07:06 AM
Yeah the sentient brain tumour was a pretty wild idea. Ever since the first Ultimates comic we knew that it was because Tony had been diagnosed with an incurable brain tumour that he had gone down the Iron Man path along with increasing donations to charities etc. He wanted to do something meaningful with the time head left. Since he continued to survive over the years, by the time of this series the question of what was happening was discussed, and according to Tony he decided to stop any treatment and see what happened - and what happened was his tumour started talking to him. Only he could see it (it appeared as a young pre-teen boy) but he could give it access to various computers etc so it became a kind of co-pilot and additional genius. This is definitely weird and finally towards the end of the Ultimate Comics Ultimates series in 2013 we were given an explanation.

The explanation involves things or people or aliens or events etc that are well known in the Marvel Universe so that's why I thought it might work as a trivia question, so throw us your wild theories.

Originally Posted by thoth lad
Good spot on The Spectre's Legion name drop, stile
There's a lost Tale of the Legion where Kid Spectre joins the team.

Horror stories would have the brain tumour as actually an unborn twin, whose intelligence has survived.
Kid Spectre? I'd read that. Good guess but no it is not an unborn twin.
The Shiar did it!
Is the "brain tumor" some sort of Ultron AI?
It's a way for his brother to control him?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/26/24 02:59 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
The Shiar did it!
Not the Shiar
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Is the "brain tumor" some sort of Ultron AI?
Not an Ultron AI
Originally Posted by thoth lad
It's a way for his brother to control him?
Not caused by his brother Aaron

All good guesses. Keep trying. I pretty much guarantee that everyone will have heard of the cause, even if never thought of in these circumstances.
Dr. Doom did it?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/26/24 09:15 AM
ooh was it the Supreme Intelligence? It sounds like some kind of crazy SI shenanigans!
The tumour is Tony Stark! Trapped in a Life Model Decoy!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/27/24 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Dr. Doom did it?
Not Dr Doom.
Originally Posted by razsolo
ooh was it the Supreme Intelligence? It sounds like some kind of crazy SI shenanigans!
Not the Supreme Intelligence.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The tumour is Tony Stark! Trapped in a Life Model Decoy!
Great idea but no.

Some wonderful ideas here. The cause is actually something that has become somewhat topical in recent years, and not just in the comics. Oh and it's not really a brain tumour (if the sentient bit didn't give it away).
was it some kind of virus?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/28/24 12:15 AM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
was it some kind of virus?
Not a virus
Was it created by Gamma radiation and is therefore some sort of Hulk in Tony’s head?
Aliens from the moon?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/28/24 11:10 AM
Was it his conjoined twin that he didn't kill off properly in the womb?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/29/24 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Was it created by Gamma radiation and is therefore some sort of Hulk in Tony’s head?
Not a sort of Hulk
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Aliens from the moon?
Not Aliens from the Moon
Originally Posted by razsolo
Was it his conjoined twin that he didn't kill off properly in the womb?
Not a twin

Big Clue: Think about the what might be the approx size of a brain tumour and if anything in the Marvel Universe fits that.
Was Ant-Man or the Wasp in his head?
Howard the duck enters stage left...

I've heard of having someone on your mind, but this is riduckulous....

... and exits stage right.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/29/24 07:12 AM
ooh wait have we had a cosmic cube yet? Was it a cosmic cube?
An Infinity Gem?
When stile said "The cause is actually something that has become somewhat topical in recent years, and not just in the comics." I thought he meant in a mainstream news sort of way. Not just in another Marvel medium. That's why I live in the Tangent universe I guess. smile
I was also thinking "real life", hence my first guess was a virus smile Coronavirus, eek!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/29/24 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
An Infinity Gem?
Yes! It was an infinity gem. Not sure which one (they didn't get individualised so much in Ultimate Universe) but Pietro sliced open Tony's head to find it and Maker performed brain surgery to remove it, while keeping tony alive and conscious - mostly so he could boast I think, since as soon as he was finished extracting and boasting he snipped the appropriate thing killing Tony. (Tony survived but that's another story.)

Some great ideas from all of you with this one. Great fun. Your turn Ibby.
wow,that sounds like quite a story...

credits to your clue, stile. and also to raz for guessing Cosmic Cube... and it made me remember the Infinity Gems from the MCU!

ok let's see...

Who once was given a dose of Miraclo, saving their life and causing them to blow a hole in a villain?
Hooty the owl?
you got it!
I thought that you might have been referring to the Stalker story. I loved the structure of it, and I love James Robinson's handle on the breadth of DC history, though it's never nice to see a heroic character get turned into a villain.

There were two long-running DC team-up books that ended in the early-to-mid 1980s. Brave & Bold, featuring Batman and a guest (or team of guests), and DC Comics Presents featuring Superman and a guest (or team). Who was the guest in the last issue of each of these series?
was it the same guest for both? Barry Allen?
No it was not. The two books' cancellations weren't connected. They didn't end at the same time - Brave and Bold ended in 1983, when it was replaced in the monthly roster by Batman and the Outsiders, while DC Comics Presents continued until right before Man of Steel rebooted the Superman books in 1986.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
There were two long-running DC team-up books that ended in the early-to-mid 1980s. Brave & Bold, featuring Batman and a guest (or team of guests), and DC Comics Presents featuring Superman and a guest (or team). Who was the guest in the last issue of each of these series?

I'm still reading a fair number of '80s comics. So all I have to do is close my eyes and... picture the final issue of World's Finest...bah!


Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
No it was not. The two books' cancellations weren't connected. They didn't end at the same time - Brave and Bold ended in 1983, when it was replaced in the monthly roster by Batman and the Outsiders, while DC Comics Presents continued until right before Man of Steel rebooted the Superman books in 1986.

In one of the Outsiders TPBs, it was said that four Bat-books were a requirement for a foreign licensing deal. When B&B was slated to go, BatO became the repalcement. The replacement would have been a Bat-book of some sort.

B&B was before my time reading DC, and before the time where I could pick them up as recent-ish issues from older newsstands.

DC Comics Presents, like Worlds Finest was never towards the top of my pile. There was a mix in quality in the scripts/ concepts/ I think my first DC Presents issue had the Forgotten Villains/ Heroes. There was no Crisis crossover on the cover, even though it does lead into it. I had no idea. That had Swan art, when I was probably thinking it looked a little dated inside, others had Aparo and Kirby art, when I wasn;t that aprreciative of it. I'd pick up the odd issue of DC Presents, if that's what was left.

The Crisis crossovers seemed a bit meh and fuill of hasty foreshadowing. My first guess for this was going to be the Post Crisis issue, where Harbinger, Quark and Pariah are involved. Great Perez cover. Meh apart from that. But I'd have recalled that as the last issue. So, I'm having to have a think. I don;t think this is right, but I'm going to go with Hawkman in a Shadow War follow up crossover.

As for B&B, i imagine it was something fitting for the book to go out on. So, was it someone like Catwoman?
The final issue of DC Comics Presents did not guest star Hawkman or anything related to the Shadow War story.

You are correct that the last B&B was a fitting final guest star, but not Catwoman.
DC Comics Presents: DC would have had some inventory around. There was time to have things like Moore's Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? As DC Presents had a popular Whatever happened to in-series, that would have been a good fit for this title. upergirl would have been well before the post crisis issue, so I'll go for something else in-keeping and say Jimmy Olsen.

B&B: Was it The Joker?
B&B: was it Superman?

DC Comics Presents: Aquaman?
None correct so far, but thoth's ideas are pretty close. DC Comics Presents's last issue guest was someone (or someones) who were very connected to Superman, and while Joker wasn't the guest - or the villain - in the B&B finale, a Joker (hint there) appears in the story.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/30/24 10:39 PM
B&B: no idea but - it wasn;t that whatever happened equivalent story? Did it have a mystical character like Phantom Stranger?
DCP: Has Supergirl been eliminated - sorry poor choice of words - this wasn't the story where Supes finds out that his cousin had been secretly married on an alien world?
B&B - Two-Face?

DC Comics Presents - Lois Lane?
B & B - Not a "Whatever Happened" equivalent. The Phantom Stranger did not appear.
DCP - Supergirl had not been eliminated, but I'll say now that it wasn't her, and it is not a story in which he finds out she was secretly married on an alien world.
DCP - The last issue would have been a decent while after Kara's death, and that little rush to get in a few last adventures. Lois was going to be my next guess. I remember a late one with Captain Atom. Memorable as this was post Crisis, but before Cap's relaunch. Not very Superman though, so I'll guess The Kent's.

B&B - With the clue of a Joker, and with this being earlier than Crisis, I'll go with the Huntress, reminding Earth-1 Batman of her dead father. The Huntress had a Levitz back up series for quite a while.
DCP - Not the Kents
B&B - Huntress is very close
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
B&B - Two-Face?

DC Comics Presents - Lois Lane?

CMK, I think you missed my earlier guess
B&B: Earth-2 Robin?
Sorry, Ibby, I guess I did miss it. Neither is correct, though.

Not Earth-2 Robin, but again, very close, like Huntress.
Bah! ... Thinking...
OK, I'm going to simplify this. I thought this was an era that posters here had a lot of knowledge about, but perhaps this was too obscure.

DCCP - The final issue was a Pre-Crisis tale featuring Superman and the Phantom Zone Villains. It was sort of a last tale of the Phantom Zone, about how Jor-El's exiling of criminals to there affected the original inhabitant.

As for B & B, I'll still wait for someone to get the right answer. But I'll throw out a hint - the co-star was actually deceased in the present (as of that issue) time, the "team up" was really more of a parallel story.
Ah, the Phantom Zone! I might have got there, in time to watch Lar get freed from it smile Definitely in keeping with the move to Byrne's version. A nice we'd off concept.

B&B could well be Earth-2 Batman. He died in the late 70s on Earth-2.
That's the correct answer! The final issue was Earth-1 Batman and Earth-2 Batman. The Earth-2 Batman portion was an adventure that took place in the Golden Age (and illustrated appropriately in the style of the era) against a newly-created period villain, who fell into a coma at the end of the adventure. He woke up in the present day as an old man in prison hospital and was informed by an aged Earth-2 Joker that Batman was dead. He somehow took over the mind of his Earth-1 counterpart (I don't remember exactly how he was able to do that), a fine, upstanding citizen, in order to get his revenge against Batman (albeit the Batman of Earth-1).
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 01/31/24 11:44 PM
Oh so the last DCP was that Phantom Zone story. I think I read it in a TPB collection of Phantom Zone stories.

I remember the B&B cover now I have looked it up but not the story at all. Sounds crazy but also with potential.

Good question CMK.
Yay!

Thanks for the tip that the character was deceased at that time CMK! I was guess everyone around him, because of that point. Good question. I read a lot of '80s DC, but those are 2 I don;t think I've read.

New Q shortly...
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/03/24 05:13 AM
I didn't get to this thread in Time. I remember B&B 200 with the two Batman (and the BatO preview) but I don't think I would have gotten the Phantom Zone Criminals from DCP even though I skimmed through it about a month ago. I own physical copies of both.
Which character was in the title of DC's first exclusinve foray into the direct market?
Crimson Avenger?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/05/24 11:01 PM
Not the Baxter version of Legion of Super-Heroes and New Teen Titans?
Not the Avenger or anything as popular as the Legion or Titans.
Batman?
Not Bats.
Swamp Thing?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/06/24 01:33 AM
Amethyst?
All good guesses. A character closer to Swamp Thing, but with at least one main similarity to Amethyst.
Sargon?
Black Orchid?
Neither of those, but with the mysticism of a Sargon and the mystery of a Black Orchid. This character is a well known one.
Green Arrow?
More mystic than a Green Arrow.
Spectre?
Doctor Fate?
I know that this character has appeared in Spectre comics. And the character is portrayed as less powerful than Fate or Spectre. But, y'know with mystic things, as powerful as needed at times.
Madame Xanadu?
John Constantine?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/07/24 01:14 AM
Zatana?
Zatanna close and Constantine in the same area too.

But it was Madame Xanadu!
The lead was an Englehart and Rogers story. DC presumably used the success of their Batman run to conclude that this story, scheduled for a cancelled title, would work far better in the direct market.

Over to you CMK!
You know, I recall that she had a one-shot self-titled comic, but I don't think I had realized that it was direct market, much less their first. Great question.

Whom did the Fantastic Four help Doctor Doom depose from the throne of Latveria to restore Doom to power?
Kang?
Nope. I'll throw this out there - the person is not another super-villain. He was simply a member of pre-Doom Latverian royal family. But I thought some here might know the name.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/08/24 06:09 AM
Sounds vaguely familiar but I can't remember the name. A Baron of some kind? No idea.
I also got nothing smile
Hmm...tougher than I realized, I thought we had some Byrne-era FF fans on board. If no one has anything by tomorrow morning, I'll come up with a new question.
Kristoff?
that's the name of one of our family dogs, by the way tongue
Nope, Kristoff was introduced during the story I'm referencing and when the forces of that other ruler killed his mother, Doom adopted him. It was only after that that Kristoff usurped Doom's throne.
Zorba?

(Re: Kristoff the doggie, thanks for sharing that, Ibby. Very heartwarming.)
Zorba is correct! You're up, Ann!
Goody!

Keeping with the F4 theme, but exploring the Post-Byrne years...in the late 80s, an F4 writer misguidedly decided there should be a She-Thing. Her name was Sharon Ventura. After this writer was replaced by the great Walter Simonson, Sharon's transformation was thankfully undone.

Which character restored her to humanity?
Well done, Annie!

Molecule Man?
Thank you kindly, Thoth.

The character was not Molecule Man.
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/09/24 01:05 AM
ONLY DR DOOM POSSESSES THE MIGHTY INTELLECT TO CURE SHARON VENTURA, TAKE THAT RICHARDS!!!
LOL

Raz got it right (and in a brilliant parody of Doom's voice, as well. Kudos.)
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/10/24 09:30 AM
About time my melodrama lessons started paying off wink

Okay, next question!

The New Mutants (as the name would suggest) are a team of mutant kids that Professor X took into his school during one of the thousands of times the X-Men were presumed dead.

Warlock is one of the New Mutants, and he's also one of a race of techno-organic aliens who all share the same standard techno-organic abilities.

Warlock also has a mutant power though which is unique among his race as far as we know.....what is Warlock's mutant ability?
I should know this, I just read a Warlock profile recently... does it have to do with being able to merge with Cypher?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/11/24 04:17 AM
He can restrain his techno-virus from spreading on contact?
That he's not bloodthirsty like the rest of his race?
Posted By: razsolo Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/15/24 03:48 PM
I'm gonna give it to CMK...in the 80s Fallen Angels miniseries they said his mutation was the ability to feel compassion, which really feels like the ultimate asspull to justify him being on a mutant team, but it is what it is I guess! All yours, Chaim!
What common object did Deathstroke the Terminator use to incapacitate the Atom during "Identity Crisis"?
A happy snapshot of the Dibneys? smile
A laser pointer?
Ibby is correct, a laser pointer!
wish I could forget... tongue

lessee...

For Elongated Man's birthday, Sue Dibny once pretended she was kidnapped. Sue pretended to be Ice... name one clue that made Ralph realize that Ice was actually Sue.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/15/24 11:13 PM
He never saw "Ice" using her powers, she just ran and hit things? (I remember the story but not for certain the clue.)
good enough! he never saw Ice using her powers... and when confronted by a runaway toy train, Ice used oil to make it run off the tracks. The real Ice would ahve just used her powers!

Also, Ice was being too quiet, even for Ice... she didn't say a word!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/16/24 10:54 PM
Jimmy Olsen has found an ancient prophecy from Nostradamus that says that if he combines the tears of a clown, a killer, a king, and a Kryptonian he will gain a mysterious power. For the Kryptonian he seeks out his "pal" Superman. How does he make him cry?

Bonus question: the killer and the king are interesting but one-offs but what well known DC character is the clown?
with Kryptonite?

is Joker the clown?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/17/24 10:32 PM
You got the bonus question. Joker is indeed the Clown Prince of Crime. However Kryptonite is not how he makes Superman cry.
Did he emotionally exploit Superman by showing him something very sad?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/18/24 11:23 PM
Yes he did! Good enough.

Exploiting his friendship with his pal, Jimmy summons Superman with his watch and then gets Supers to take him to his Fortress where he takes him before the memorial to Jor-El and Lara, but is shocked when Superman doesn't get upset. Superman explains that today is the anniversary of the destruction of Krypton and he had already remembered that by watching time movies of the event and was all cried out. jimmy apologises but then sees amongst Supes films another to show him, a documentary of his time in Smallville. This does the rick although Jimmy doesn't realise that what really did it was an image of the Kents' graves.

Adding Superman's tears to a test tube containing those he had already collected, Jimmy is disappointed to find that all he has is a glowing tube like a light bulb. Superman examines it while suggesting that to anyone from Nostradamus time a glowing tube truly was a spectacular power. Jimmy is disgusted and lets Suiperman have it. After returning Jimmy to Metropolis, Superman flies to a deserted region and detonates the tube revealing that it contained an incredibly powerful radioactive potential too powerful for anyone on Earth to have. Somehow his "super tears" empowered the others. Wonderful Silver Age nonsense.

Your turn.
what Silver Age nonsense indeed!

Did Jimmy feel an ounce of guilt for exploiting Superman like that? maybe not, but whew that was the Silver Age indeed tongue

let's see...

The Lost Lanterns were a bunch of Green Lanterns thought dead during Hal Jordan's first rampage to Oa. Many of them turned up alive, kidnapped by the Manhunters. Which of the Lost Lanterns died during their rescue?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/20/24 05:08 AM
Hmm. Not Kilowog. What was the name of the woman he cut the hand off? Mara?
Kilowog wasn't one of the Lost Lanterns,

and it wasn't Boodikka either (the woman whose hand he cut off) smile
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 02/22/24 02:44 AM
I just don't know the names of many of the non-Earth GLs.
How about that orange-skinned guy with the fin head and beak? Sometimes an archivist I think?
Was it the grasshopper-looking one? I think his name was Bivvix, maybe?
nope and nope

it was a humanoid Lantern, and in fact a very human-looking one.

I'll give it a couple of rounds, then if nobody can get it I'll just throw a new Q out.
Arkis Chummuck?
also nope, this GL looked exactly human
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/03/24 02:08 AM
Looks like we are a bit stuck on this one Ibby.
thanks for nudging me, stile.

It was Kreon, the Lantern with an eyepatch who had a sort-of rivalry with Boodikka.

ok new easier question...

in COIE, name one of the 5 heroes sent to Earth-S while Psycho Pirate was controlling the Marvel family.
Changeling was one of them, I’m pretty sure.
you got it!

along with Supergirl, E-1 Wonder Woman, E-1 Black Canary, and Kole
What DC hero routinely got around on roller skates?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/04/24 10:49 PM
Great question CMK! My mind immediately jumps to Marvel's Iron Man and Dazzler, but DC ... ? I'm stumped, hopefully only temporarily.

Black Canary didn't ever do that, did she?
Not Black Canary.
no clue. maybe Black Lightning?
Not Black Lightning, either.
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/05/24 03:42 PM
Wonder Woman during her white outfit days?

Wait I think I remember, can I guess again or should I wait to be told no.
Lilith?
Neither Wonder Woman nor Lilith.
Like stile, have to get Dazzler and Iron Man out of my thoughts...

I'm ignoring my next thought "Quick Robin! To the Bat-skates!"...

Is this a tricksy question... with the answer being Metamorpho creating them from himself?
No, nothing tricky like that. This hero routinely wore roller skates as part of his or her costume. I'll throw out a little hint - the hero wore them (but routinely a part of his or her stories) not for skating on terra firma, but for navigating a different kind of surface.
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/05/24 05:05 PM
Deula Dent the Joker's Daughter. (At least I remember her skating down the ramp at the Gugenheim)
Definitely not who I was thinking of, but if that was a general part of her MO, I'll award you the next question.
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/05/24 05:31 PM
I don't know that it was a regular mode or not. I remember that one issue of teen titans because a friend had it and I read it repeatedly (It's actually where I learned the Guggenheim existed). I think I remember her skating up the side of a building but couldn't swear to it. I can wait to see if someone else comes up with it.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/06/24 02:27 AM
I had another image of a speedster on rocket powered roller skates but that was Blue Streak who is a Marvel villain.
The original Air Wave had retractable skates built into his boots that he used to travel along telephone wires.
And EDE has it!
Well done EDE!
nice!!
On the topic of GA heroes, which pair of DC characters were irradiated while working on the Manhattan Project, so that they had to spend 35 years in an underground bunker?
35 years? good gravy!
A revision of TNT and Dyna-mite?
Originally Posted by thoth lad
A revision of TNT and Dyna-mite?

It is indeed TNT and Dan the Dyna-Mite, as per Super Friends #12 from 1978! This was the first time the characters had been seen since their relatively short GA run!

Over to you thoth!
Thanks. I first saw them in All-Star squadron, and didn't know they'd been published a few years before.

In Alan Davis' The Nail, who was revealed to be the main villain?
For those who haven't read it, the nail in question punctures a tyre on the Kent's truck. They choose not to go out, on the day Kal-El's rocket lands.
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/08/24 12:11 AM
I read this once but years ago. No idea. Lex Luthor?
I read it too, but struggling to remember... I think Ollie Queen was one of the villains, but maybe not the main?
It is not Lex Luthor. The plot begins to suggest he will be, but he's a pawn of someone else.

Ollie Queen was badly injured in a JLA battle. The trauma turned him against his colleagues. That supported the narrative the main villain wanted out there.
Jimmy Olsen?
It was Jimmy Olsen!

He received powers after other parties experimented with the rocket they found, on Olsen's already (Elastic Lad/ Turtle Boy) altered genetic structure. For a moment there was a tease of it being Starro, that turned out to be a mutated Krypto.

Over to you Ibby!
I gotta read this again!

I remember the Olsen twist... that was fun!

ok let's see...

in JLA/Avengers, which two heroes thought dead, actually survived - and ended up saving the day during the final battle?
Hawkeye and Barry Allen
you got it!
In the JLA’s 200th issue, the story featured seven fights between a founding member of the team and a post-founding member. One of these match-ups had the founding member fighting two non-founding members. Who were the heroes in that fight?
Black Canary and Green Arrow were the non-founding members; they fought Batman, and it was all beautifully drawn by Brian Bolland. Ollie was actually not a member at that moment, he just tagged along. But by the end of the issue, the others convinced him to rejoin the team.

JLA 200 is one of my favorite superhero comics ever published.
It was amazing - only quibble is Hawkgirl/Hawkwoman was missing!
Yeah, they had separated due to a difference over helping Thanagar. Agree with Fickles. It was some comic.
Correct, Ann! It's one of those perfect anniversary issues, up there with LSH # 300. However, I'm pretty sure it was Trevor von Eeden who drew the Batman vs GA/BC chapter.
It was Brian Bolland.

My question:

In one of the most celebrated issues of Peter David's first X-Factor run, each team member has a therapy session with Doc Samson. During Quicksilver's session, the feisty speedster puts together all the pieces of a puzzle. What animal is prominently featured in the puzzle?
Pig?

Trevor Von Eeden drew the GA mini around that time. The GA back up strip in Detective too, I think. But not in #200.
Not a pig.
A snail. That was brilliant stuff by Peter David.

Guess I was wrong about the artist on that chapter. Guess I was thinking of one or more of the stories Thoth mentioned.
It was indeed a snail, and I agree, that was brilliant of Peter David.

You're up, CMK.
Sticking with Peter David...in Young Justice # 2, Young Justice saves Ali Ben Styn and he promises them anything they request as a reward. Impulse, true to his name, runs forward and makes the request. What did he ask for?
Video games?
Nope.
A pony?
The return of Barry Allen?
No. And I will say, it was an object, not an event or occurrence.
Sounds like Bart...

a whole bunch of ice cream?
Nope.

I'll throw out another hint: the requested item was delivered about two years later, just when Young Justice needed such an item for their impending adventure. In pure Peter David fashion, it was deleverd by "Fedeux ex Machina".
a... time machine?
Not a time machine, but not far off the mark.
Cosmic treadmill?
No.
A spaceship?
The "Super-wagon", IIRC. Whatever it was called, it was the vehicle used by the Forever People.
Ibby has it, it was a spaceship! Doiby Dickles had just come to Young Justice for help in taking the Planet Myrg back from its conquerors, and though the team was eager to do so, Robin pointed out, "How would we possibly get there?" Suddenly, ("Fedeus Ex Machina") they get a delivery of a spaceship, which Impulse reveals he had asked Ali Ben Styn for way back in that earlier issue.

KK, they did have a Super-Cycle, but it wasn't the gift from Ali Ben Styn, they sort of "won" it from its previous owner. It wasn't the same one the Forever People used, but a member of the same "species"...after leaving Myrg, they met the Forever People and the two vehicles mated and produced a child (in classic Peter David absurdism).
yeah I seemed to remember reading about that spaceship suddenly appearing when they needed it most! nice Q!

let's see... during Red Winter, the Justice Society showed up to reinforce the Justice League Reserves. The Society members were split on whether to enter Russia or not. Which Society member gave the tie-breaking vote?
Jay Garrick?
Hawkman?
no to both

Jay Garrick was there, but he was a NO vote (let's not go into Russia)

Hawkman was not there
Alan Scott?
Nope, Alan was there but also voted like Jay did
Wildcat?
Spectre?
nope, Wildcat was there but voted YES (let's go into Russia)

Spectre was not there at all
Johnny Thunder?
nope, he also was not there


during Red Winter, the Justice Society showed up to reinforce the Justice League Reserves. The Society members were split on whether to enter Russia or not. Which Society member gave the tie-breaking vote?

Not:

Jay Garrick
Hawkman
Alan Scott
Wildcat
Spectre
Johnny Thunder
Al Pratt?
Nope. Al voted YES alongside Ted
Johnny Quick?
nope, he was not in the story at all
Jesse Quick?
nope, she was also not in the story
Doctor Mid-Nite?
you got it! Charles McNider was the tie-breaking vote; he argued that the Justice Society could have prevented many deaths had they acted more quickly during, say, World War II.
Which member of the Titans attempted to encourage Dick Grayson to strip in front of the entire team?
Sandman?
No. (Was Sandman ever a Titan? Or are you still on the prior question?)
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/15/24 10:55 PM
Terra
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/16/24 02:39 AM
I'm pretty sure idle has it right.
Terra does sound correct!
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/16/24 11:34 PM
I can even remember the scene when Dick is discarding his Robin identity.
CMK- I've just decided to guess "Sandman" on every question. Eventually, it will be correct.
Idle remembers correctly!
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/17/24 03:04 AM
That was one of the first Titans issues I read.

This one may be tricky. Who took up a life of crime and chose a name so people would learn to spell?
Mr. Mxyzptlk?
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/17/24 08:54 AM
Not Mxyzptlk. But I will say it is a DC character.
Onomatopoeia? (shot in the dark, and I doubt this is correct lol)
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/17/24 10:55 AM
Not Onomatopoeia (I still have to double check that name for spelling.)
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/18/24 12:17 AM
Great question. No idea.
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/18/24 05:26 AM
A Couple of clues. This character debuted between the two already guessed. This character only appeared in one issue.
ah if it's a one-issue character, I am extremely unlikely to know this one frown
My first guess was the same as Ibby's. There's something familiar about this one.

Is there a character called The Crime Villain, constantly pointing out he's not the Crime Villian?
Posted By: idle Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/18/24 05:39 PM
Thoth has is close enough. It was from an issue of Ambush Bug and has stuck with me since I read it in the eighties. He turned to crime and took the name Villian the Villain so people would learn to spell villain correctly.
cool , very interesting concept!
Originally Posted by idle
Thoth has is close enough. It was from an issue of Ambush Bug and has stuck with me since I read it in the eighties. He turned to crime and took the name Villian the Villain so people would learn to spell villain correctly.

Yay! And they said over-reading of Ambush Bug would never amount to anything!

New Q soon!
Which book from a previous Boot, does the latest incarnation of The Outsiders take its premise from?
Posted By: stile86 Re: The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5 - 03/26/24 11:28 PM
Haven't been following but let's try JLA when Batman originally quit to form the original Outsiders?
It is not based on a previous version of the JLA
ummm Challengers of the Unknown?
The premise isn't a million miles from at least one version of the Challs I've seen. This group were not originally part of the post crisis DCU.
Suicide Squad?
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