CMK has it! The JSA, JLA and All Star Squadron split up into 5 teams, but 3 of them were specifically sent to defuse the nuclear weapon sites. The other two teams went on different missions
In the JLA/Avengers series, the Grandmaster and Krona had the heroes hunting for objects of power, all of which were deliberately hidden somewhere they didn't belong...except one. Which object could be found exactly where it could have been expected to be?
I thought maybe Jason Rusch would have been subpoenaed
Hawkman Captain Marvel Vixen
the whole death of Firestorm was stupidly written, and was an unnecessary part of Identity Ctisis. pretty much nobody else in the story even referenced it. it felt shoehorned in!
the whole death of Firestorm was stupidly written, and was an unnecessary part of Identity Ctisis. pretty much nobody else in the story even referenced it. it felt shoehorned in!
Absolutely!!! It was the most obvious example of editorial interference I've ever seen in my life. For all of Meltzer's questionable story-telling decisions in that series (and, full disclosure, I do actually like it despite them) the death of Firestorm was clearly something he was told to throw in there in order to set up the new series.
And to me, it is the single biggest problem with the series (even more than the horrible rape and murder and character assassination and stuff): we're reading this (questionable) love letter to the satellite-era JLofA in which enormous focus and emotion is devoted to the loss of a loved one of one of those members (who barely even appeared during that run) and yet, when one of those ACTUAL MEMBERS dies, it is a total after-thought that practically no one ever mentions or reacts to. It is SO at odds, with the theme of the series (celebrating the satellite-era JLofA) that it just clearly shows how out-of-touch and incompetent the editor of that book was. And surprise, surprise: guess who champions Identity Crisis as his first big project at DC? Dan Didio. There should have been no surprise then, when a man who understands so little about the DCU would go on to literally destroy it.
And I have serious reservations about the whole "let's kill random characters" ride that Didio clearly endorsed. Identity Crisis is difficult to reread because of the way it violates the Satellite era (which is the one I grew up on).
While with the JLE, Sue Dibny was horrified by a UN proposal to move the team to a certain city. She was afraid it would be so boring they would have to watch statues turn green. What city was this?
I think one of my first questions in this thread lo those many years ago was asking you to give me the names of all of the DC characters who had featured in movie serials in the 1940s and 1950s.
Well I'm nothing if not consistent, so in honour of the newish DC Cinematic Universe (not that it deserves it in any way so far), please give me the names of the 14 DC/Vertigo properties who have received live-action feature films to date.
You've got 13 out of the 14 properties. (I included Robin within the Batman property since he didn't have his own stand-alone film.)
The last property might be tricky for some. It's not as well known as many others on the list and I had completely forgotten they'd made a movie about it until I was reminded by Wikipedia.
RANDOM CLUE #1: A regular poster on this board (although not one who's ever posted in this thread as far as I'm aware) was a big fan of this comic (although that might not help since this poster is a big fan of a lot of comics ). RANDOM CLUE #2: As far as I'm aware, the characters in this comic have never appeared outside of their one series. RANFOM CLUE #3: I bought this comic on the strength of its cover art alone. I had never heard of the artist before this series but they have gone on to be a much bigger name now. (Although, strangely, I have gone on to like their art less, including this earlier work.)
P.S. I never saw the movie but hear it got mixed reviews. Looking at it amongst the others on the list though, it seems totally strange that a pretty-much forgotten minor 00's Vertigo series would be one of the very few that DC has turned into a movie.
That's correct - in his case, he blames Hyperion for a condition that made his hair grow excessively, as Luthor had famously turned to evil because he blamed Superboy for his baldness. Also, the MM initials was a reference to the constant LL initials (including Lex Luthor) in Superman's life.
I remember when I saw the scene in issue # 3 of the JLA/Avengers book, and recognized the Avengers and JLA images as being from the earlier aborted team-up and I asked Kurt Busiek if the story referred to in that panel was indeed the intended plot of that one, and he answered in the affirmative.
If it makes you feel any better, IB, the two you mentioned were in the panel immediately above that one, which might be what made you think it was them.
During the "Breakdowns" crossover between the JLA and the JLE, Wally West and Ralph Dibny decided to drop in on the Doom Patrol, whose own book was in the surreal Grant Morrison era. Experiencing some of this effect, what great mystery of life did Ralph briefly think he solved?
^ That... is the most randomly lucky guess! Of all the questions in the universe, you just randomly thought of missing socks?!? I think Saturn Girl might be a distant descendant of yours IB!
^ That... is the most randomly lucky guess! Of all the questions in the universe, you just randomly thought of missing socks?!? I think Saturn Girl might be a distant descendant of yours IB!
Re: the Q - Cyclone?
Or Dream Girl? I wonder how I can put my telepathy and/or precognition to good use! Must.. manifest...
Awesome work CMK. I've got a list of 16 of the more prominent fictional countries in the DCU and you've named 9 of them. (I should have asked you to name 15 if I'd known you'd find it so easy! )
I don't have Mozambia on my list though. If you can point to where you get that country from, I'll give the Q to you, otherwise there's still 1 more country to get.
Well done TL. Khandaq was another of the countries on my list. (I really should have asked for 15! I didn't expect this question to get solved in like 2 hours! haha)
To round out the others, there's:
* Abyssia (related to Looker of the Outsiders; although now that I think about it, I'm not sure if this underground kingdom is technically a country?) * Badhnisia (where Johnny Thunder got his Thunderbolt) * Oolong Island (from 52) * Rheelasia (which appeared in a bunch of Chuck Dixon's work, such as Birds of Prey) * Zambezi (Vixen's homeland; I wonder if this is what you were thinking of CMK?); and * Zandia (Brother Blood's homeland).
If CMK was thinking of Zambezi, then, per the usual rules for these sorts of questions, the next question should be yours TL (for naming the last remaining country). If you want to give it up to CMK though, that's your right.
Oh well done then! Weird that I've never heard of that country (although it doesn't help that I haven't read those 4 issues), especially because... I AM FROM THE ACTUAL (MO)ZAMBIA! Weird that they didn't just use that country, rather than slapping those 2 letters on to make this fake one.
Well, the use of fake countries is probably to avoid explicitly upsetting any real countries' governments or citizens. I imagine Mozambia was not just MO added to Zambia, but meant as a pastiche of Zambia and Mozambique.
Name the two beings that Robby Reed split into, who were the prime movers in the Chris King-Vicki Grant Dial H for Hero stories?
^ I definitely think that's the reason CMK, but (as a former resident of one of those countries) it actually had the sort of opposite effect on me. I know I would have been absolutely thrilled to see my little, relatively unkown (at least in America) country of Zambia appear in a DC comic and remember how annoyed/confused I was when I first saw "Zambezi" appear in a Vixen story. On the other hand, I am an absolute 1000% fan and supporter of DC's habit of creating fictional cities and countries, so I guess I shouldn't complain when it's one that's close to my heart that's been effectively "replaced" (for storytelling purposes, if not on an actual map of the DCU).
Re: the Q: I feel like one was called something like "The Master? Or maybe I'm completely wrong? My sole recollection of this story is from it's mention in a "Who's Who" entry I read many years ago.
^ Tangentially related, those last few issues of Adventure that followed the Dial-H series have been on my 'must get' list for ages now.
I was recently at a comic shop that was having a big sale and I saw miniature, Digest sized versions of those issues for really cheap and thought to myself "Weird. Why would DC reprint those issues in these small copies?" It was only after I got home that I discovered that those issues were only ever printed in miniature, Digest sized versions!
Hopefully they'll still be there for the next sale.
CLOSE in terms of Marvel era and the whole surprise mutant thing ... but this team never really made it out of the 1980s (like most toy-associated heros)
Who did the New Mutants team up with to face Viper?
NOT: Iron Man Daredevil Captain America Falcon Spiderman Cloak and Dagger HINT: These were surprise revealed as mutants
Quis is getting closer ... this team ended up having to change their name because Marvel wanted to keep them BUT there was a far more famous (completely unrelated) show using the name
Evel Knievel toys had to be rebranded because he was in jail for battery and assault. The toy line was renamed Team America (until that name was taken by a WAY more popular TV show).
Team America was a stunt cycle team who had a mysterious benefactor - the Dark Rider. The New Mutants went to a show and ended up getting involved with Viper (who was after the Dark Rider). Well, since the New Mutants are involved, of course it turns out that Team America are mutants - with the ability to project their skills onto a person to craft a gestalt being, the Dark Rider. Notably, this is the story where Karma "dies" (she actually gets possessed by the Shadow King).
Team America is brought back into Marvel in Captain America where they have been renamed the THUNDER RIDERS.
Clearly all the makings of a legendary team whose impact will be widely felt.
Pretty close, thoth, but not quite exactly. No on Whizzer.
Bah! Nothing worse than the ones when I get close but have no follow up ideas. Well, I had one. But Andy totally snuck in with "Twirly top knife guy" who he knows is my favourite. Bah!
The Woodentops were a kid's TV show... the four tops were a band...
There is a Top for DC... Was it changed from that to avoid any comparisons? I'll go for The Top!
Well, I had one. But Andy totally snuck in with "Twirly top knife guy" who he knows is my favourite. Bah!
Well I remembered the big Doom Patrol/Defenders crossover that had Twirly top knife guy as one of the key street level foes to drive the heroes to fight _______
It's tough at the top as top characters fight for top spot: Quadruped Top vs Bilateral Symmetry Top vs Twirly top knife guy in Top Top! Only from Tip Top Comics. Tip Top Comics: Get To The Top of the Queue.
Doom had created a giant jewel to enhance and project Purple Man's powers across the world. Of course, it's odd that a genius like Doom would overlook that Purple Man's powers are pheremonal in nature and therefore I'm not sure how one broadcasts that via an enclosed powered up jewel that Purple Man is stuck inside.
Ahem. Even odder - at some point Doom blamed his weird(er) failures on Doombots, including this story. Of course
Ok.... in honor of the Idol going... which villain lured Atom, Flash and Supergirl to his planet to destroy them?
Was that tbe story referenced in Morrow's return to face the JLA? So.ething about Morrow's computer creating multiples of him to explain his various appearances.
It was an issue of Super-Team Family. I bought it a few months ago but haven’t read it yet. I’m looking forward to but it seems like a totally bizarre premise; How did a ‘mad scientist’ character like Morrow become the ruler of a distant planet? When did he start wearing a standard super-villain costume? Why would he want to kill the totally random combo of Atom, Flash and Supergirl?
I love Bronze Age whackiness so I cant wait to find out!
^ I will but it may take a while; I’m trying to complete the series before I start reading it.
Q: When DC Comics (then known as National Periodical Publications) bought Quality Comics in the1950s it chose to keep only four of Quality’s ongoing titles running. Which four were they?
Ah but Beetle and Atom were Charlton. Quality did Great titles like the Uncle Sam and Human Bomb In Love one shot. Well, it was more like one panel than one story...
Only one correct so far but one of you was very close with one of your other guesses and you’re both definitely on the right track with the general theme of your guesses.
Q: When DC Comics (then known as National Periodical Publications) bought Quality Comics in the1950s it chose to keep only four of Quality’s ongoing titles running. Which four were they?
I had to get the foreign editions of those growing up:-
Police Action Comics - Banned by the government and the printing presses destroyed after #3. French Letter Comics - Shut down by the local Comic Code after #2. The free gifts in #1 were interesting though. Sort of Central and North a Bit Monthly - Notable for the all inclusive main character Meandering Man and his genre free, inoffensive tales. Shot by the townsfolk in issue #4.
Q: When DC Comics (then known as National Periodical Publications) bought Quality Comics in the1950s it chose to keep only four of Quality’s ongoing titles running. Which four were they?
1. Blackhawk 2. G.I. Combat 3. 4.
You are both correct to be guessing a romance title for one of the last two spots. I’m not sure how to classify the final title. Adventure? Crime? I will say that it stars a very famous character.
Since I’m pretty sure none of us in here were big collectors of romance titles, I’ll give a clue re: that one.
The two word title has two meanings:
1. Something else else that an organ in the body does; and 2. An attractive person.
The final title is not the Spirit. The character is a lot more famous than that. As a clue, I’ll tell you that according to the GCD, the title character has appeared in more than 1100 stories across multiple publishers.
I'm actually fond of the romance covers when Teeds posts them here. All that heartbreak, loss and angst in a single cover.
EDIT: Completely misread Blacula's post. I thought the clues 1 and 2 were for one book each. So ignore the following:-
1. ... sorry... this is going to take a minute... just avoiding all the rude options... right... Spleen Vent Monthly Heartbeat Monthly? 2. All-thoth Monthly Zorro?
Q: When DC Comics (then known as National Periodical Publications) bought Quality Comics in the1950s it chose to keep only four of Quality’s ongoing titles running. Which four were they?
1. Blackhawk 2. G.I. Combat 3. Heart Throbs 4.
Zorro is not a bad guess for the final title. Think of someone similar who used to appear regularly in DC stories.
Ta! I was about to go with King Arthur until that popped into my head. For that to have been right it would have been the "I'll hit you over the head with the pommel of my sword until you give me all your money" tax. Ah Ye Olde Dayes!
Planetary's Jakita Wagner was the daughter of another hero. That hero is a homage to a much more famous character who has also appeared in comics. Who is that famous character?
I remember the panel of them kissing... verbal cue... Did someone ask them to get a room after Apollo came back from getting badly beat up and Midnighter fussed over him?
OK, in honour of Legion World's newly-designated BEST JLA VILLAIN OF ALL TIME (Starro) here's a question about that lovable starfish:
Everyone should know that Starro was the first ever (published) JLA villain in The Brave and the Bold #28, but what people might not know is that Starro was ALSO the first ever (published) villain for another well-known DC super-team.
I was just re-reading that run. Why in the world did the JSA decide they needed to see what was inside that big door under Monument Point? It was clearly nothing but trouble.
I suspect it would have been more comprehensible if they weren't rushing to wrap stuff up before the New 52. I'm sure the writer didn't intend to introduce these new characters (Ri, Red Beetle and Darknight) without ever giving them a backstory. And in the last issue, Mister Terrific, who had lost his intelligence, gets it back with no explanation, just a caption saying "he got better".
Is it possible to despise a comic run you’ve never read? If so, that’s how I feel about this JSA run.
Everything I’ve seen/heard about it looks like absolute crap but the thing I hate most of all about it is what this question is about - the new members. Until this point, every new JSA member had been either a legacy of or in some other way connected to a former member or another Golden Age character. And that sense of legacy and history going back some fifty years is so unique in comics and absolutely one of the things that made this team so special.
And then this hack writer (or more likely an interfering editor) comes along and wrecks it all in one fell swoop. What on earth Golden Age connection does Blue Devil have? He’s about as ‘80s a character as you can get! Same with the others (except maybe Manhunter, although I never liked this version anyway).
I still read the run until the end, but also felt I should have stopped much earlier . Lots of random new characters overcrowding the book, too bad because Ri at least had interesting healing powers
Which JL member had a book collection shipped to League HQ?
Correct! Kool Cigarettes had a penguin mascot named Willie who wore a top hat, bow tie and monocle and smoked a long cigarette (of course) and Kane and Finger used him as inspiration for their Batman villain.
Yup. Earth-B was for all those stories that did not fit into Earth-1 continuity. Usually written by Bob Haney. sometimes for Brave & Bold, but not all Brave & Bold stories took place on Earth-B
That's it. Black Condor took over Sen. Thomas Wright's identity and Wonder Woman took over Diana Prince's identity. Presumable taking over a senator's identity would be more difficult today.
There are conflicting stories. One has WW just adopting the identity. Another has her buying Diana Prince's id papers so Diana can go to Argentina to be with her fiance.
Timid radio engineer and inventor Fred Carson received super-powers from a ring given to him by Tibetan monk. Pretty standard fare for a Golden Age character's origin, but why is he significant in the history of comics?
Well I'm guessing that since his stories were discontinued due to a lawsuit ... and Fawcett/DC is in the "wrong direction"... Timely Comics sued the company for copyright infringement?
thoth keeps getting so close, so I'm just going to give it to him.
Fred Carson was Wonder Man, who holds the distinction of having been the *first* character to have generated a lawsuit for copyright infringement on Superman. He was pretty clearly created by Fox Publications to capitalize on Superman's success. He was created, and his sole appearance was written and drawn, by none other than Will Eisner!
I’m late to the party unfortunately but that was my favorite type of Trivia Thread question - fun to think up an answer for AND teaches me an interesting factoid!
but that was my favorite type of Trivia Thread question - fun to think up an answer for AND teaches me an interesting factoid!
heh. Loads of pressure on the next clown who has to ask a question and meet *those* standards....ah heck...
I'm looking for a question. I *do* have a factoid to tide you over! And it links to recent questions too!
Following the success of Richard Greene in the 1950s Adventures of Robin Hood TV show, at least 7 comic companies launched Robin Hood Comics (see Robin Hood question), as there was no copyright (see Wonder Man above). DC , Magazine Enterprises, Charlton, Quality, Dell, Gilberton's Classics Illustrated and ACG all launched Robin Hood titles.
Jimmy Olsen has discovered that the alternate selves that have appeared are actually all connected to the Legion. But who is impersonating each of these classic Olsens? :-
Giant Turtle Man Olsen - Porcupine Man Olsen - Wolf Man Olsen - Fat Boy Olsen - Elastic Lad -
Giant Turtle Man Olsen - Colossal boy Porcupine Man Olsen - Cosmic Boy Wolf Man Olsen - Sueprboy? Fat Boy Olsen - Bouncing Boy Elastic Lad - Chameleon Boy
It is the line up! Porcupines must get loads of iron in their diet for Rokk to be using their quills. This was before Timberwolf, so I would have guessed a Jekyll & Hyde formula swigging Brainy for the Wolf Man
Beetle was fired for not having any useful powers/skills and for his antics being the "number one most embarrassing factor to the new League!" Ice was fired for not having the proper temperament to be a superhero (being too passive and nice) Ralph was fired for not following orders, being too silly, being careless, having silly powers, and for "having a costume even uglier than the Silver Sorceress'"! And Cap was fired for insubordination, because he wouldn't accept Rolf's authority.
It was only Chaim's answer that reminded me of breakdowns. I have mercifully forgotten, nearly everything about it. All that remains is a mental note not to read it again.
Um... I don't know anything about the Eternals. Maybe Gaiman ripped them off for the Endless. Death?
Hmmm I forgot that the Marvel knowledge here is low ... Not Death
The Eternals were a Kirby creation at Marvel ... ambitious, flawed concept - the Eternals and the Deviants were created by Celestials - a race of cosmically powered people mistaken for gods and the other a group of constant mutation
I'm just giving this to CMK... I was clearly a little too obscure with this one It's Druig, who ended up trying to free a powerful Deviant to use as his slave (which backfired of course)
Which Red Guardian? The man who was married to Black Widow? Or the woman who was a top surgeon and ended up being cosmically powered? Or the guy who was killed by the Dire Wraiths?
(Um.... I do not read that much Marvel anymore but I've got 3 decades of it under my belt)
Although it was full of the team picking fights with each other, there was a heck of a lot of subplots going on in the issue too. Wolfman & Perez Titans level.
One of my favorite aspects of that cover was that one of the boxes was labelled "Invisible Girl" and was empty.
When Thanos was first collecting the Inifinity Gems, all of the holders of said gems at the time but one were Elders of the Universe. Who is the only one who wasn't considered to be such?
Not Galactus, although prior to Thanos's gathering of them, the stones were all last together inside his stomach. Nonetheless, when they were extracted from there, five of them were taken, one apiece, by an Elder of the Universe, and the sixth by a Marvel Cosmic being who is not considered to be one of that grouping.
You should all be ashamed for letting someone who's never bought a Marvel comic in their life win a Marvel question!
One day I intend to create a thread of random comic-related Top 10 lists and the first list on it will be "Top 10 Marvel Characters That This (Pre-nu52) DC-Only Fan Wishes Were In The DCU" and Living Lightning would definitely be on that list. I know almost nothing about him but for some reason he still seems kinda cool.
This question rung a vague bell because I'm also a Paul Pelletier fan and I think I remember seeing Living Lightning in a 'Great Lakes Avengers' issue while I was flicking through it in a store for his artwork.
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OK question time:
1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".
Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?
Living Lightning has a great concept! I’ve bought very few Marvel comics in my lifetime too, but when I found out he was gay I just had to check him out (not in that way...)
Batwoman Wonder Girl Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks Harlequin Red Tornado, Ma Hunkel Golden Glider Mary Marvel Black Canary Hawkwoman Zatanna Enchantress Rose and Thorn Phantom Lady Circe Lilith
1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".
Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?
1. Supergirl 2. Wonder Woman 3. Black Canary 4. Batgirl 5. Harlequin 6. Cheetah 7. Phantom Lady 8. 9. Enchantress 10. Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks 11. Wonder Girl 12. Lilith 13. Liberty Belle 14. Star Sapphire 15. 16. Big Barda 17. Zatanna 18. Platinum 19. Rose & Thorn 20. Hawkgirl
NOT: Power Girl, Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Light Lass, Dream Girl, Princess Projectra, Shadow Lass, Dawnstar, Shrinking Violet, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Queen Bee, Hippolyta, Batwoman, Red Tornado, Golden Glider, Mary Marvel, Circe, Lana Lang, Alanna Strange, Bumblebee, Mera, Jean Loring, Silver Swan, Doctor Poison, Huntress, Miss America, Jade, Fury, Lady Blackhawk, Bonnie Baxter, Dolphin, June Robbins, June Walton, Element Girl, Madame Rouge, Granny Goodness, Elasti-Girl, Angel, Madame Xanadu, Killer Frost.
18 down, 2 to go.
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Oh yeah - the Sea Devils! The only one of them whose name I ever remember is Dane Dorrance. I've always wanted to read more of their adventures though. I love Russ Heath's art and I think he worked on that book. I'd kill for an Omnibus.
1972's 'Adventure Comics' #416 was a special issue spotlighting DC's (then) "World's Greatest Super-Females".
Who were the 20 DC "super-females" (heroes and villains) featured on the cover?
1. Supergirl 2. Wonder Woman 3. Black Canary 4. Batgirl 5. Harlequin 6. Cheetah 7. Phantom Lady 8. Dumb Bunny 9. Enchantress 10. Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks 11. Wonder Girl 12. Lilith 13. Liberty Belle 14. Star Sapphire 15. Beautiful Dreamer 16. Big Barda 17. Zatanna 18. Platinum 19. Rose & Thorn 20. Hawkgirl
NOT: Power Girl, Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Light Lass, Dream Girl, Princess Projectra, Shadow Lass, Dawnstar, Shrinking Violet, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Queen Bee, Hippolyta, Batwoman, Red Tornado, Golden Glider, Mary Marvel, Circe, Lana Lang, Alanna Strange, Bumblebee, Mera, Jean Loring, Silver Swan, Doctor Poison, Huntress, Miss America, Jade, Fury, Lady Blackhawk, Bonnie Baxter, Dolphin, June Robbins, June Walton, Element Girl, Madame Rouge, Granny Goodness, Elasti-Girl, Angel, Madame Xanadu, Killer Frost, Lori Lemaris.
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Well done guys! Beautiful Dreamer and Dumb Bunny were the last two characters correctly guessed and since TL got the final one, the next question goes to him.
I always love looking back at past DC events or covers that celebrate the company's top characters and seeing which ones have stayed popular to today and which ones have fallen by the wayside.
Yes it was! Was that never changed? I remember she got transmutation powers at some point. But in the original she fell asleep on a bench, after wishing the statue of liberty would give her magical powers. Typical. When I pass out in random locations, I'm just picked up by the cops.
Yes it was! Was that never changed? I remember she got transmutation powers at some point. But in the original she fell asleep on a bench, after wishing the statue of liberty would give her magical powers. Typical. When I pass out in random locations, I'm just picked up by the cops.
I think modern version have her being some sort of government experiment, with the Statue of Liberty thing as an implanted memory or hallucination or something.
I seemed pretty liberated from what I remember of events leading up to me falling over in random locations.
"Give me your hungry, your tired your poor I'll p!ss on 'em that's what the Statue of Bigotry says Your poor huddled masses, let's club 'em to death and get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard"
- Lou Reed, Dirty Boulevard.
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
I think modern version have her being some sort of government experiment, with the Statue of Liberty thing as an implanted memory or hallucination or something.
I think I've got that one. I think it might have been an issue of Secret Origins. Were they not trying to replace Wonder Woman with Miss America following Crisis?
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
In the Golden Age elseworlds mini, who killed poor Miss America?
That would have been Robotman with a stretchy arm of steel.
I have the Young Justice run, but haven't read it since it ended. And since "died" is in quotes, was it Secret, I believe her name was. Killed by Harm, her ...brother? And then "died" again? Going on pure memory and guesswork here.
Yes! Impulse was one of them. He developed the ability to manifest "speed clones", which were versions of him created from the Speed Force. One of these "clones" died on Apokolips, sending Bart into a coma and making him give up heroing for a while.
Little Lobo was the other correct answer, beaten to death by a bunch of parademons. They didn't realize that each drop of blood would regenerate into a completely new Lobo... and the army of Lobos overwhelmed Granny Goodness and the Female Furies, allowing the rest of Young Justice to escape.
In an Avengers/Avengers West Coast Annual story, the Grandmaster plays a game against Death to win immortality for himself and other Elders of the Universe. In this story, the Avengers are forced to fight against a team of dead Marvel characters. Of the 15 members of this group, at least four were later revealed to have never been dead (several of the others were genuinely dead and were resurrected from the afterlife. This question refers only to those whose souls were revealed, retroactively, to have never departed their bodies). Who were these four?
Bucky and Nighthawk are two of the correct answers.
Sentry wasn't yet introduced; Mockingbird, Wonder Man and Doctor Druid were alive and active on the Avengers side of that battle; Swordsman has remained dead, and Hellcat (whatever her status was at the time - I think she was alive and married to Daimon Hellstrom) was not at all involved in the story.
Jessica Drew was alive at the time, and Uncle Ben wasn't involved - he wouldn't have made much of a fighter against the Avengers - and anyway, he was never revealed as alive. Captain Marvel and Dracula were both on the team of the dead, but both were genuinely dead and any subsequent appearances were in the afterlife or of their having been reclaimed from the afterlife.
Baron Zemo was one of the dead in question, but was never retroactively revealed to be alive. Magneto was alive at the time. Jocasta was not in the story, and neither was Jim Hammond, who may or may not have been considered still living at the time, depending on how one views the Vision.
Summary:
Correct answers:
Bucky Nighthawk
Incorrect answers who were members of the team of the dead:
Baron Zemo Captain Marvel Dracula Swordsman
Other incorrect answers:
Doctor Druid Hellcat Jessica Drew Jim Hammond Jocasta Machine Man Magneto Mimic Mockingbird Sentry Uncle Ben Wonder Man
Excellent thoughts, but neither of these characters were used in the story.
Hint: both of the characters in question were (from the perspective of the titular protagonists of the Marvel comic books) villains. One was Earthling but not American; the other was not from Earth.
Red Guardian is correct - the one in question being Alexei Shostakov, former husband of the Black Widow. He was revealed as having been alive during Bendis's Daredevil run.
Super Skrull is not correct, but the villain in question had similarly been an enemy of the Fantastic Four.
Terrax is the correct fourth answer! His body was destroyed, but his mind merged with the ground beneath him and he was accidentally re-awakened by some sort of machine a few years later (beginning of the New Warriors series).
Blacula has it. And Atomic Knight returned her interest, too.I found it quite cute. Not sure how old the Knight was though. Windfall seemed to be in her late teens.
Sigh, Windfall is definitely my favorite Outsider too, and look what happened to her. Kind of like with Kole...
I was reading an article with some quotes from Barbara Kesel on the death of Dove in Armageddon 2001. At first she thought both Hawk and Dove would become Monarch. She felt if it was both then Monarch would be unstable. But she was disapointed when she learned "they were just playing another round of 'kill the girl'"
I just looked up Windfall. I'll need to check on the creative team so I can avoid them like the plague. I forgot all about The Atomic Knight being in there. That seemed like a strange one, but I wasn't reading the book.
Poor Windfall. She had such potential; being the youngest of the Outsiders, she contributed a lot of brilliant and practical insights on the few cases she was in. Alas. Another character ruined.
Re Dove, good point. Poor Dawn was killed so Hank could get his sinister motivation. Ugh.
I quite liked what I saw of that version of Dove. That was before I read the original Hawk & Dove that quickly missed the point of the brothers' ideological differences.
John Ostrander killed off Windfall (and a handful of other interesting characters) in Suicide Squad: Raise the Flag. I liked that series but those predictable deaths were definitely the weakest part of it.
Re: Dove. I've always liked her and hate to see interesting female characters get killed off to fuel a male character's story... but I think I might be the only person who didn't mind the events of Armageddon: 2001. The build up (primarily in the Superman books of which I was a big fan at the time) was exciting and the Annuals were for the most part excellent I thought (one of the better uniform Elseworlds storylines IMO). And Hawk's journey to become Monarch just seemed so natural to me, with the death of (another) Dove being that last necessary blow that was required to push him over the edge.
(I also think he works a lot better in the role than Captain Atom would have; and even though everyone criticizes the swap, I think it works to the betterment of the story by creating a clever sense of misdirection for the central mystery. It's actually one of the best mystery stories DC's ever done now that I think about it.)
Re Raise the Flag, I agree. I liked the premise and the action, but the deaths were sooooo predictable. Basically, everyone who wasn't a Squad mainstay died. Windfall and Sister Twister are the ones I regret the most.
Abraham Lincoln: for the secession of the Confederate states?
I'd have to agree that Raise the Flag wasn't the best. It was a shadow of his earlier Squad run, and body count was for effect, rather than having a story impact as some earlier ones had been. I picked up the Arm 2001 crossovers that I would have been getting anyway. But there are any number of better time travel stories around in other media.
Re Armageddon 2001, Hawk as Monarch made sense. I'm just sorry Dove had to be sacrificed for that. I do agree that the switch from Captain Atom to Hawk was handled well and realistically.
And I also loved the many glimpses of the future we saw in the various annuals.
If I was an editor at DC I would have greenlit an Earth 3 ongoing book years ago. I would have loved to read the continuing adventures of heroic versions of normally villainous characters in a sort of twisted/backward universe.
No it didn't. Of all the A:2001 Annuals, the Hawk and Dove one was the ONLY one where the titular heroes and Monarch are actually seen together!
It was supposed to be Captain Atom, but everyone figured it out before the event even started, so they decided to throw a curveball. But Hawk was both a bad story idea and a dumb character choice. Better they stuck to their guns and just make it a good story rather than a surprise. If they really felt they had to throw a curveball, I think Guy Gardner would have been a decent option.
No it didn't. Of all the A:2001 Annuals, the Hawk and Dove one was the ONLY one where the titular heroes and Monarch are actually seen together!
Don't remember that.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
It was supposed to be Captain Atom, but everyone figured it out before the event even started, so they decided to throw a curveball. But Hawk was both a bad story idea and a dumb character choice. Better they stuck to their guns and just make it a good story rather than a surprise. If they really felt they had to throw a curveball, I think Guy Gardner would have been a decent option.
Yes, I know about the curveball. Always felt that Hawk's personality would make him a decent choice for Monarch.
No it didn't. Of all the A:2001 Annuals, the Hawk and Dove one was the ONLY one where the titular heroes and Monarch are actually seen together!
It was supposed to be Captain Atom, but everyone figured it out before the event even started, so they decided to throw a curveball. But Hawk was both a bad story idea and a dumb character choice. Better they stuck to their guns and just make it a good story rather than a surprise. If they really felt they had to throw a curveball, I think Guy Gardner would have been a decent option.
I agree with IB's prior agreement with me. (We are like this topic's version of an ouroboros!)
I don't remember the Hawk & Dove Annual well enough to comment on the discrepancy of having both Hawk and Monarch appear on-panel, but why does that have to be a deal-breaker anyway? Body doubles (robots/clones/twins/etc.) go back to almost the beginning of comics and Monarch was explicitly shown using duplicates of characters (e.g. Kole) in the New Titans Annual with the Team Titans anyway.
As for it being a bad story idea, well that's just personal opinion of course but I'd be interested in hearing some reasons why. The only reasons I ever hear on message boards are the same two about the two characters appearing on panel and Captain Atom being the first choice. The first one doesn't carry any weight with me for the reason I just out-lined and the second one has always struck me more as some fans having sour grapes about being tricked by the writers. Many other works of fiction have also been altered late in the process and sometimes for the better.
It's interesting you bring up Guy Gardner as a more preferable substitute for Captain Atom than Hawk. Now that I think about it, I agree with you. For three reasons: 1) it would have diminished the only-getting-worse problem of having too many Earth-based Green Lanterns; 2) because the writers haven't really known what to do with Guy since his JLI hey-days anyway; and 3) it wouldn't have benched a unique and interesting DC concept like that of 'Hawk and Dove' for something like two decades. But those are all meta/real-world reasons. From a story/character point of view, I don't know why he would have made a much better choice than Hawk. They were both very similar in temperament and outlook and both were influenced by the tragic events of their pasts at the time. It seems to me like anyone who had a story/character-based reason for disliking the Hawk reveal would feel the same way about a Guy Gardner reveal.
From a story/character point of view, I don't know why he would have made a much better choice than Hawk. They were both very similar in temperament and outlook and both were influenced by the tragic events of their pasts at the time. It seems to me like anyone who had a story/character-based reason for disliking the Hawk reveal would feel the same way about a Guy Gardner reveal.
I'll tell you why I think it would have worked better:
1) They wouldn't have needed to kill off Dove (or Ice) to make it happen - Guy isn't that much tied to a partner. 2) Guy did not, in fact, appear on-panel with Monarch like Hawk did. Yes, it can be explained away, but why should that be necessary? 3) Guy always had an inferiority complex with relation to other heroes (especially Hal Jordan and Batman), and a self-centered, somewhat twisted world-view. I could see this translating into becoming a tyrant and villain...much more so that Hawk's generalized hyper-aggressiveness. 4) Hawk was an avatar of Chaos - becoming a leader of a very orderly society made no sense. Guy was authoritarian by nature.
As far as the "meta-reasons" go, the hints that Monarch was going to be Captain Atom were that his solo series was ending just then, and that JLE was the final Annual in the crossover. When they pulled the switch, they used another hero whose series was just ending, i.e., Hawk. But Guy had no series of his own, he shared Green Lantern, so no need to cancel a series right before the conclusion of the crossover. It would have fit in perfectly fine.
From a story/character point of view, I don't know why he would have made a much better choice than Hawk. They were both very similar in temperament and outlook and both were influenced by the tragic events of their pasts at the time. It seems to me like anyone who had a story/character-based reason for disliking the Hawk reveal would feel the same way about a Guy Gardner reveal.
I'll tell you why I think it would have worked better:
4) Hawk was an avatar of Chaos - becoming a leader of a very orderly society made no sense. Guy was authoritarian by nature.
I think this is the strongest "in-story" reason for why Guy should have been Monarch instead of Hank. I guess the reason they didn't is because Guy was active in more titles than Hank back then. He had both Justice League and Green Lantern (which was something of an ensemble book during that period) and I think it wasn't long after this that he got his own series. So DC probably thought he had more life in him than Hank at that point. I think they made the wrong decision as between these two characters but I still don't think the story was ruined because they used Hank.
Ah, I remember that story. For the love of cuckamonga. That one panel where Elliot S! Maggin (why the exclamation point, I don't know) and Green Arrow had the exact same line...
... and then we see Cary Bates in spandex. And I remember thinking he's surprisingly buff for a comic book writer. So super powers grant a super physique too?
And this is me stalling while thinking of a question...
Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.
It wasn't in the JLE series, it was in one of those 80-page giants that came out after the fact.
Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.
Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.
Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.
What two countries were they from?
Neither was in Europe Only one was in North America China is geographically close to the second country
From:
Guatemala ??
Not:
UK USA Germany Holland / Netherlands Italy Spain Canada Mexico Morocco China
Captain Atom and the JLE once helped the gargoyles of Notre Dame free themselves from a curse. They were accused of stealing the gargoyles, but that's another matter. When they were introduced to the gargoyles, there were two exchange gargoyles from outside France.
What two countries were they from?
Neither was in Europe Only one was in North America China is geographically close to the second country
From:
Guatemala ??
Not:
UK USA Germany Holland / Netherlands Italy Spain Canada Mexico Morocco China Vietnam
In one of the later issues of Starman, Ted Knight re-tells an old JSA adventure against Brain Wave in which most of the JSA were rescued by their girlfriends, dressed in their costumes. Ted declares that reports of female versions of two JSA members were not true. Who were these JSAers who, according to Ted, did not have women dress as them?
thoth, they did have those (and Mid-Nite had a secretary/love interest whom he was too shy to actually ask out), but they didn't participate in the adventure against Brain Wave. At least according to Ted Knight in Starman # 69.
I remember that Charles McNider did indeed have a sort-of love interest, but I also remembered the relationship wasn't that strong (and I remembered that she seemed not to know his secret identity, so would be less likely to join in).
It was the Spectre that surprised me, though I seem to also remember that the early Spectre was more human than the later version.
Interestingly, in the original story, neither Dr. Mid-Nite nor the Atom's girlfriends are shown at the beginning of the story when Wonder Woman recruits the girlfriends, but female version of both appear as part of the actual rescue party...
thoth, they did have those (and Mid-Nite had a secretary/love interest whom he was too shy to actually ask out), but they didn't participate in the adventure against Brain Wave. At least according to Ted Knight in Starman # 69.
sorry Chaim. I wasn't going to pass up the "bird" joke.
I was meaning Osiris from the Overmaster's new Cadre team (although I might have gotten him and the Pharaoh guy mixed up as the same character; and now that I think about it, I meant to say:)
Seneca (also from the Overmaster's Cadre; although this is a longshot guess).
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
wow! I did really well coming up with people who were there, even if none of them were correct answers. Was this some sort of in series crossover event? JLA, JSA and Global Guardians at least.
Black Lightning Mister Miracle Gypsy Huntress guy in armour, was it Lionheart? girl with energy arrows thing, Maya?
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Many of the Reservists had relatively small parts. Only Metamorpho and Taz, and to a certain extent Miracle and one of the unguessed, really had a major impact on the storyline. One of the reservists didn't even have a single line!
You may have, by now, noticed a pattern - each of the Reservists was part of a certain incarnation of the League.
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity) Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity) Vixen Batman Superman
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) Mister Miracle 3) Huntress 4) Black Canary 5) Metamorpho 6) Blue Jay 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity) Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity) Vixen Batman Superman Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time) Booster Gold Zatanna (who was present in that story in another capacity)
But considering all that you collectively have guessed, it should not be long now
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) Mister Miracle 3) Huntress 4) Black Canary 5) Metamorpho 6) Blue Jay 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity) Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity) Vixen Batman Superman Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time) Booster Gold Zatanna (who was present in that story in another capacity) Lightray
Animal Man and Captain Marvel were closer to the last answer, than Green Arrow
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) Mister Miracle 3) Huntress 4) Black Canary 5) Metamorpho 6) Blue Jay 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity) Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity) Vixen Batman Superman Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time) Booster Gold Zatanna (who was present in that story in another capacity) Lightray Animal Man Captain Marvel Green Arrow
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members Hint 2: Captain Atom is a very close guess. Captain Marvel and Animal Man are closer guesses than Green Arrow. Hint 3: this character had held League membership at a time close to all the other correct answers
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) Mister Miracle 3) Huntress 4) Black Canary 5) Metamorpho 6) Blue Jay 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity) Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity) Vixen Batman Superman Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time) Booster Gold Zatanna (who was present in that story in another capacity) Lightray Animal Man Captain Marvel Green Arrow Captain Atom Blue Beetle
nope. but you hit on the reason why Captain Atom is a close answer. Agent Liberty is a close answer for the same reason
by the way, Agent Liberty was also there. but like others guessed - such as Fire - he was there as a reinforcement from the American branch, not as one of the Reserves originally called in to help
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members Hint 2: Captain Atom and Agent Liberty are very close guesses because of something they have in common with this character. Captain Marvel and Animal Man are closer guesses than Green Arrow. Hint 3: this character had held League membership at a time close to all the other correct answers; this character was a member during the JLI/JLE days Hint 4: this character is male
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) Mister Miracle 3) Huntress 4) Black Canary 5) Metamorpho 6) Blue Jay 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story in another capacity) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story in another capacity) Elongated Man (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story in another capacity) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story in another capacity) Al Pratt (who was present in that story in another capacity) Ted McNider (who was present in that story in another capacity) Fire (who was present in that story in another capacity) Owlwoman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story in another capacity) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story in another capacity) Guy Gardner (who was present in that story in another capacity) Rocket Red (who was present in that story in another capacity) Vixen Batman Superman Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time) Booster Gold (who was present in that story in another capacity) Zatanna Lightray Animal Man Captain Marvel Green Arrow Captain Atom Blue Beetle Martian Manhunter Creeper Major Force Agent Liberty (who was present in that story in another capacity)
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members Hint 2: Captain Atom and Agent Liberty are very close guesses because of something they have in common with this character. Captain Marvel and Animal Man are closer guesses than Green Arrow. Hint 3: this character had held League membership at a time close to all the other correct answers; this character was a member during the JLI/JLE days, but joined after the JLE's formation yet before the Ray joined the JLA Hint 4: this character is male
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) Mister Miracle 3) Huntress 4) Black Canary 5) Metamorpho 6) Blue Jay 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story as a Global Guardian) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story as a JLA member) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story as a JLE associate and Sonar's "captive") Elongated Man (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story as a JSA member) Al Pratt (who was present in that story as a JSA member) Charles McNider (who was present in that story as a JSA member) Ted Grant (who was present in that story as a JSA member) Fire (who was present in that story as a JLA member) Owlwoman (who was present in that story as a Global Guardian) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story as a new JLE ally, joining after) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Guy Gardner (who was present in that story as a JLA member) Rocket Red (who was present in that story as a Rocket Red) Vixen Batman Superman Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time) Booster Gold (who was present in that story as a JLA member) Zatanna Lightray Animal Man Captain Marvel Green Arrow Captain Atom Blue Beetle Martian Manhunter Creeper Major Force Agent Liberty (who was present in that story as a JLA member) The Ray Flash (Wally West) (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Power Girl (who was present in that story as a JLE member)
We should keep this round going until we’ve named every character who was in the story.
At the rate we're going, we are.... I think we're only halfway to doing that Godiva and Owlwoman's teammates, for example. And there is one more JSA member not named. And one or two people who were with the JLA... plus a couple of full time JLE-ers...
Which 7 reservists did the Justice League call in to help investigate events in Russia (during the Red Winter storyline)?
Hint: all the correct answers had once been active League members Hint 2: Captain Atom and Agent Liberty are very close guesses because of something they have in common with this character. Captain Marvel and Animal Man are closer guesses than Green Arrow. Hint 3: this character had held League membership at a time close to all the other correct answers; this character was a member during the JLI/JLE days, but joined after the JLE's formation yet before the Ray joined the JLA Hint 4: this character is male
1) Tasmanian Devil 2) Mister Miracle 3) Huntress 4) Black Canary 5) Metamorpho 6) Blue Jay 7)
Not:
Little Mermaid (who was present in that story as a Global Guardian) Osiris Golden Pharaoh Beefeater Wonder Woman (who was present in that story as a JLA member) Animal Man Seneca Sue Dibny (who was present in that story as a JLE associate and Sonar's "captive") Elongated Man (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Ice Maiden Atom Firestorm Doctor Light (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Jay Garrick (who was present in that story as a JSA member) Al Pratt (who was present in that story as a JSA member) Charles McNider (who was present in that story as a JSA member) Ted Grant (who was present in that story as a JSA member) Fire (who was present in that story as a JLA member) Owlwoman (who was present in that story as a Global Guardian) Black Lightning Gypsy Lionheart Maya (who was present in that story as a new JLE ally, joining after) Doctor Fate Big Barda Aquaman (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Guy Gardner (who was present in that story as a JLA member) Rocket Red (who was present in that story as a Rocket Red) Vixen Batman Superman Silver Sorceress (was dead at the time) Booster Gold (who was present in that story as a JLA member) Zatanna Lightray Animal Man Captain Marvel Green Arrow Captain Atom Blue Beetle Martian Manhunter Creeper Major Force Agent Liberty (who was present in that story as a JLA member) The Ray Flash (Wally West) (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Power Girl (who was present in that story as a JLE member) Ice Duke Donald (the ghost knight in the JLE castle)
you got it! it was General Glory - pretty much the only one among the 7 reserves to not even get a single line. he was also the first to get knocked out when Crimson Fox and the reserves faced the Rocket Reds the first time
This story featured a lot of characters, so let's do a list (because I love lists):
Justice League Europe members:
Aquaman (would leave after the story) Crimson Fox (Vivian was in the field, though Constance also appeared) Doctor Light (Kimiyo) Elongated Man Flash (Wally) Green Lantern (Hal) Power Girl
Justice League Europe associates:
Sue Dibny (in her role as support; the villain Sonar also tried to woo her by threatening Elongated Man) Maya (would join the JLE at the end of the story, as its mandate expanded to become the JLI) Duke Donald (the ghost in the JLE castle)
Justice League reserves: (called in because JLA was unavailable then, due to Doomsday and Superman's death)
Metamorpho (would join the JLE at the end of the story, as its mandate expanded to become the JLI) Tasmanian Devil (would join the JLE at the end of the story, as its mandate expanded to become the JLI) Black Canary Huntress Blue Jay General Glory Mister Miracle
Justice League America members:
Fire Maxima Wonder Woman Booster Gold Guy Gardner Bloodwynd Agent Liberty
Note: Doomsday explains why Ice and Blue Beetle were absent, but there is a slight continuity error. Fire was depowered and Booster Gold's equipment was destroyed by Doomsday, so they should have been absent. Maxima was also wearing her old question. Ray and Black Condor were absent too, though if I remember right they should have showed up at about the same time as Wonder Woman and Agent Liberty. Condor and Liberty were only around for like 5 issues of the JLA run anyway...
Justice Society of America:
Green Lantern (Alan Scott) Flash (Jay Garrick) Atom (Al Pratt) Wildcat (Ted Grant) Doctor Mid-nite (Charles McNider)
Global Guardians:
I'm not going to name each of them, but Ice Maiden (Sigrid) had not yet been introduced; and Little Mermaid showed up alive, claiming she was the good twin of the Mermaid who died earlier.
I think she was introduced in The Power of Shazam! wasn’t she?
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Q: Which character was a Boy Commandos villain in the Golden Age, a Robin (sans Batman) villain in the Silver Age, and then a Batman villain in the Bronze Age?
She was indeed. Although I should add that just now, when I looked up Wikipedia to confirm before answering, I discovered that there was also an Alpha Flight member by that name, maybe that's who Ibby was thinking of/thought I was referring to. I'd never heard of that character.
I’ve never read The Power of Shazam! so I’m not even sure how I knew that answer. Haha I really liked Grant Morrison’s Bulleteer though so I might have learned it while reading up about her.
She was indeed. Although I should add that just now, when I looked up Wikipedia to confirm before answering, I discovered that there was also an Alpha Flight member by that name, maybe that's who Ibby was thinking of/thought I was referring to. I'd never heard of that character.
Yeah, I was thinking of the Alpha Flight character. That's probably whom thoth was thinking of too, with his guessof Wolverine and Sasquatch.
It was only after Blacula got the correct answer, that I realized there must be another Windshear. Sadly, when I tried doing a search, it was the Alpha Flight Windshear who kept popping up.
Q: Which character was a Boy Commandos villain in the Golden Age, a Robin (sans Batman) villain in the Silver Age, and then a Batman villain in the Bronze Age?
Q: Which character was a Boy Commandos villain in the Golden Age, a Robin (sans Batman) villain in the Silver Age, and then a Batman (and Robin) villain in the Bronze Age?
Nope. But you are correct in assuming that this is not one of Batman's A (or even B) list villains.
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Q: Which character was a Boy Commandos villain in the Golden Age, a Robin (sans Batman) villain in the Silver Age, and then a Batman (and Robin) villain in the Bronze Age?
NOT: Bruno Mannheim, Maxie Zeus, The Wizard, Clayface.
I was thinking of the Alpha Flight member (or Alphan as I'm sure they referred to each other earnestly during plot dumps.) Excellent guess Blacula and Question Chaim.
The members of what would be a post-government Alpha Flight got a signal that would lead to them combatting the mighty Tundra. All except one member made it to the battle. Who didn't and why not?
Crumbs! Thanks Ibby! Because Chaim has not only the right answer, but the right reason too!
In an excellent debut issue, the members of Alpha have implants that will pick up alerts (I wonder if they were ever used to track members). So do two members of Beta FLight who were about to be promoted when the project was shelved: Marinna and Puck. While Marinna made her own way to the combat, Puck had to rely on transport. A guard refused him access to a flight, as he didn't recognise Puck form the pictures of Alpha he'd seen.
In one of the annual JLA-JSA crossovers, the Ultra-Humanite formed a new Secret Society of Super-Villains, 10 villains (himself included) who would each capture one member of either the JLA or of the JSA. In most cases, a villain from Earth-1 captured a JLA member and a villain from Earth-2 captured a JSA member. Which villain was the exception to this, and which hero did he or she capture?
Tricksy question The hero is Black Canary, because it would be revealed that she's the daughter of the original?
The villain... Ultra humanite beat E2 Supes, Monocle beat E2 Hawkman, Rag Doll beat E2 Flash, Psycho Pirate beat Hourman. I nearly went with this as it's not the first Psycho Pirate. Someone beat Johnny Thunder. I'm guessing Brainwave. That leaves The Mist as the answer. Hopefully.
And just for the record, the other villains and JLAers were Signalman - Batman (E1), Cheetah - Wonder Woman (E1), Floronic Man - Atom (E1) and Killer Frost - Firestorm.
The JLA and the JSA must rescue the seven Soldiers of Victory from other periods in time! But where did the seven groups go? I'll take time periods, people they met/ fought or pretty much anything that indicates an answer
Good question! This is from a very hazy distant memory:
1. Camelot where they met Merlin I think (Shining Knight?) 2. Old West Indians (Green Arrow?) 3. Dinosaurs era (Crimson Avenger?) 4. Puritan witch-burning early-American era (Star-Spangled Kid?) 5. Attila the Hun (Stripesy?) 6. Robin Hood (Speedy?) 7. French Revolution (Vigilante?)
(P.S. I think you have the next Q in the Star Wars Trivia Thread too TL.)
Correct:- 1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era 5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire 6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Cvilization 7. Vigilante -- Old West
Incorrect. But two of them are just mixed up:- 2. Speedy -- Pre-Historic Caveman Era 3. Star-Spangled Kid -- Revolutionary France 4. Stripesy -- Ancient Greece
Remember that Perseverance Lad joined as Matter Eater Lad!
I had to write down the answers for this one as I kept forgetting.
Speedy is correct. He got turned into a centaur by Circe
Star Spangled Kid first appeared as a distortion on a the wall of a prehistoric cave! That tribe died out, as Spangles had altered them to speak in Roy Thomas captions. They spent all their time talking and none of it hunting.
Two for Blacula!
No one was in revolutionary France, which is just where you'd expect someone to pop up for instant drama. But where else could they have been?!
1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era 2. Speedy - Ancient Greece 3. Stripsey - 4 - Star Spangled Kid - Prehistoric cavepeople 5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire 6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Civilisation 7. Vigilante -- Old West
1920s gangster era isn't that far removed form the crooks they would beat up in the Golden Age. Stripesy wouldn't want to be taken back to a more complicated world of comics. Come to think of it, none of them wanted to stay where they were.
Despite all of Blacula's valiant efforts on this one, Ibby has guessed the final answer. Stripsey was working away on the one of the pyramids. In between being tortured for the secret of his great strength. "I don't have great strength fellas. I just beat up a lot of gangsters in the 1920s!" he'd shout back.
The scene was also notable for having Starman develop the power to control his energy rod from a distance.
1. Green Arrow -- Sherwood Forest/Robin Hood era 2. Speedy - Ancient Greece 3. Stripsey - Ancient Egypt 4 - Star Spangled Kid - Prehistoric cavepeople 5. Shining Knight -- Mongol Empire 6. Crimson Avenger -- Aztec Civilisation 7. Vigilante -- Old West
Blacula has it! I always found it funny and cool, Diana having 5 gorilla house guests (how did she teach them to use the bathroom??). And 3 chose to stay on Themyscira to guard Hippolyta.
They were the original X-Men from the Marvel Universe? Well, they did turn up with their older versions...
Still not sure how I feel about that. So many cool characters in limbo, but instead we get two versions of each of the original X-Men plus a gazillion clones of Wolverine running about.
re Gorillas, their good deeds helping Diana were recognized by Gorilla City. they were forgiven for being misled by Grodd, and were welcomed home as heroes
first JLA:
Martian Manhunter Batman Superman Wonder Woman Green Lantern Flash Aquaman Rex the Wonder Dog
I'm gonna be all shooked and be all like "MIND. BLOWN."
You broke the Internet today!
**suddenly, in a moment of lucidity**
Help me! Help me! I've been brainwashed by all those influencers on social media! They've got me talking like them! No, please, put me out of my misery!
And then there's that scene where the Shining Knight says, "Verily, the brave Star-Spangled Kid and the daring Speedy hath sallied forth like two Teen Titans!"
And then there's that scene where the Shining Knight says, "Verily, the brave Star-Spangled Kid and the daring Speedy hath sallied forth like two Teen Titans!"
Okay, maybe I made *that* one up...
It's just before the panels where Justin tells the others... "And if our brave comrades doth fall, they shall be avenged." Vigilante adds "...and we shall be the Avengers!"
It's a ridiculously influential issue from the Golden Age... even without our add ons…
For example, Ollie Queen appears as a Laws Legionnaire, who was later overlooked (just) for inclusion in the Justice League which he was also already a member of, as seen here. So he could only stare at the League HQ for a few issues, just like his descendant (or just a time travelling Ollie), has to do as a tour guide outside Legion HQ.
A bit that actually is in the comic is that the villain uses Black Light rays, tying him into the Phantom Lady who first appeared the year before. The villain was the Black Star. Later, it was established that Starman and the Phantom Lady were related. But was the Black Star another member of the Knight family? More importantly, where is the lost Roy Thomas script that details the connection, as I don't believe there isn't one?
Blacula has it. Now I can go and post something in another thread, without giving it away.
I'm reading a "sequel" to it by a hard sci-fi writer. He's a pretty good one too. But Scarlet Traces catches the social background to what a country would have been like with a victory, and Martian technology, on its hands so much better. It gets thoth's BIg Thumbs Up for those who haven't read it. They did a straight War of the Worlds interpretation first, and that's always good to get an introduction to Scarlet Traces.
OK this is only tangentially comic-related but hey! - it gets difficult coming up with an interesting question for these threads every few days!
DC Comics' old series The Witching Hour memorably bore the phrases "It's 12 O'Clock... The Witching Hour" and later "It's Midnight... The Witching Hour" atop each of its covers.
This was a catchy slogan but there was just one problem; 12 o'clock/midnight is NOT (traditionally) 'the witching hour'.
State religions had/have set prayer times and The Witching Hour should fall right in the middle of the gap between Go-Sleepy prayers and Up-With-The-Dawn prayers.
All a complete waste, as witches work normal hours just like everybody else. You try reading a font size 4 herbalist book with no natural light or try to find the right bottle by candlelight.
I can sort of remember the panel and want to guess Swamp Thing but I'm not sure if you mean "eyeing up" in a sexual way... and that would be weird (although I've never read a Swamp Thing comic so maybe plant creatures were presented as desirable beings in them?).
wow Blacula, you remember all of Duela's disguises? cool!
0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman 1. Donna Troy: Wonder Girl - Troia - Darkstar - Wonder Woman 2. Roy Harper: Speedy - Arsenal - Red Arrow 3. Mal Duncan: Guardian - Hornblower - Herald - Vox 4. Duela Dent: Joker's Daughter - Catgirl - Scarecrone - Riddler's Daughter - Penguin's Daughter - Harlequin 5. Kyle Rayner: Green Lantern - Ion - White Lantern 6. Bart Allen: Impulse - Kid Flash - Flash 7. Jesse Chambers: Jesse Quick - Liberty Belle - Flash (?) 8. Tim Drake: Robin - Red Robin - Batman (in the future?) 9. Gar Logan: Beast Boy - Changeling - Animal Man? 10.
0. Dick Grayson: Robin - Nightwing - Batman 1. Donna Troy: Wonder Girl - Troia - Darkstar - Wonder Woman 2. Roy Harper: Speedy - Arsenal - Red Arrow 3. Mal Duncan: Guardian - Hornblower - Herald - Vox 4. Duela Dent: Joker's Daughter - Catgirl - Scarecrone - Riddler's Daughter - Penguin's Daughter - Harlequin 5. Kyle Rayner: Green Lantern - Ion - White Lantern 6. Bart Allen: Impulse - Kid Flash - Flash 7. Isaiah Crockett: Slagger - Joto - Hotspot 8. Jason Todd: Robin - Red Hood - Red Robin 9. 10.
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To make this question less of a logistical nightmare, I'm just sticking with identities they adopted within the in-continuity (whichever one it was at the time) DC Universe. So no, 'Elseworlds' or possible alternate futures like the 'Titans of Tomorrow' or things like that.
Because, I didn't initially have Duela Dent on my list (for a reason I can't discuss without revealing the answer to the question in the Titans Trivia Thread*), there are three possibilities for the final two spots. Two of those possibilities have actually already been guessed but with incorrect identity names.
* Editor's note: See current issues of Legion World's First Ever Trivia Thread Crossover Crisis for details.
Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action - there are 2-3 possible answers)
That's closer to the answer. Studying was related to one of the possible answers.
Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action - there are 2-3 possible answers)
- NOT because Lightning used to recharge her dad's phone while all thunder could do was smash it - NOT quite because one of them was studious while the other got into trouble for staying out late, BUT studying had a bit to do with one of the possible answers
Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action - there are 2-3 possible answers)
- NOT because Lightning used to recharge her dad's phone while all thunder could do was smash it - NOT quite because one of them was studious while the other got into trouble for staying out late, BUT studying had a bit to do with one of the possible answers - One of them was let off for something while another was not , but it was NOT for having a boyfriend or for using powers poorly. - Powers did have something to do with it
That couldn't be farther from the truth, when you consider that Thunder joined the Outsiders and Lightning joined the JSA. Their team affiliations arerelated to this question though
Why was Thunder jealous of Lightning's treatment by their father Black Lightning? (note: I am looking for a specific instance/action - there are 2-3 possible answers)
- NOT because Lightning used to recharge her dad's phone while all thunder could do was smash it - NOT quite because one of them was studious while the other got into trouble for staying out late, BUT studying had a bit to do with one of the possible answers - One of them was let off for something while another was not , but it was NOT for having a boyfriend or for using powers poorly. - Powers did have something to do with it - but NOT because Lightning's powers were more similar to their father's - and NOT because one wanted to use her powers for good while the other wanted to have personal gain - BUT their team affiliations (Thunder with Outsiders, Lightning with JSA) is related to one of the answers
YES! he made Thunder get a college degree first, but let Lightning join the JSA as a hero in training before she graduated. Thunder was understandably pissed
also, when Black Lightning got involved with the Outsiders again he became a fugitive. Thunder helped him, but Lightning brought the JSA to being him in. Black Lightning tries to reason with Lightning, saying he knows she will listen to him. In a perfectly understandable move, Thunder goes, “I’m the one helping you and she’s trying to arrest you, but SHE’S the reasonable daughter????”
for someone so smart, Black Lightning can be so dumb!
Early All-Star Squadron Villain The Feathered Serpent claimed his origin involved making a discovery that others had failed to make. Which fictional character (not a DC Comics Character) did he cite as having attempted but failed to make the discovery, thus implying that this character is real on Earth-2?
Unfortunately, we never got to see the fabulous adventure of Indiana Jones and the Lost Pyramid of Kukulkan, as Indy apparently searched for the pyramid but never found it.
The man who became The Feathered Serpent, however, did discover it, and found the sacred vestments that gave him his powers.
Of course, a key point of his origin is called into question later in the story, so it could all be bunk, but the namedrop of Indiana Jones definitely seems to suggest that there's a real person of that name on Earth-2.
ah, cool. nice question, EDE, and good guessing thoth. I figured it would be along these lines, but was too lazy to search for whether certain characters were public domain or not.
I was mostly trying to steer you towards newer characters with the "public domain" clue.
It's kind of weird to see him referenced as an in-universe character at the height of his popularity, though. It be a bit like if, a few years back, Zatanna had casually mentioned that she just got back from hanging out with Harry Potter or something.
The Wellington name was revealed in a Golden Age story in which he fought "a modern Napoleon", and Ladd is a more recent addition, acknowledging his connection to Alan Ladd.
In the bowels of DC offices ( the bowels being biologically close to the quality of their output)…
Bendis: Tomar Re has gone bad! DiDio: Great! We can build an event around that. I'd have built an event around him being mildly indifferent to semi skimmed milk, but this is even better! Bendis: But we need to give him a villainous name! Remember Hal became Parallax? DiDio:Uh-huh… Bendis: And Tomar Re has a fin on his head? DiDio: Yup Bendis: Enter... Paraffin! DiDio: It'll be a blazing success! Make it 4 issues... wait...you'll want to exploit a different looking talking head Bendis... Make it 8 issues!
Ummm this character surprised Fire with her abilities She was not normally in the field as she served as Bishop It was not clear if her Queen knew of her abilities
Oh, i thought we were looking for someone who served as Queen, because Amanda Waller was the one who violated the rule. So I thought this would be two characters serving in opposite positions (i.e. two Queens).
I still can't remember who else was in Checkmate around that time though...
Nope it's a character that was created just for Checkmate and I haven't seen her outside of that. So I'm thinking I'm the only one who actually read the series
The New Mutants have been thrust into the future where the Sentinels have taken over North America. The events in Days of Future Past have been played out, but three characters from the New Mutants have formed a resistance. Which three are they?
Before Gosamyr (I think) and before Rusty Collins (although like Skids it might not have been by much)
Chaim is very close. Katie Power appeared in the story either before or after this one. While the characters in this question are fighting against Sentinel oppression, Katie appeared in the story where mutants had won and it wasn't very pleasant either.
Chaim is indeed correct. Lila enables a teleporters railroad to be set up, taking mutants away from Earth and to safety from the Sentinels.
I had seen scenes from this story many years before I read it, as we played the Sentinel based Nightmares of Future Past RPG. Moonstar had her Valkyrie look, and the pic in the RPG module was too dark to make her out.
YES! In the Magick mini-series, a young Illyana is faced with many versions of the X-Men, most having been killed by the demon S'ym. Kitty is transformed into a cat creature by Belasco and ends up killing Storm - driving Illyana to action. She wrestles Kitty down until she snaps her best friend's spine before going to her final confrontation with Belasco for her soul.
That is correct! In a four-part story culminating in the FF's 10th anniversary issue, the Overmind took over Reed's mind, and the only one who could possibly defeat an evil Reed was...Doctor Doom!
Green Lantern, Katma Tui, succeeds in appointing a protector of the Obsidian Depths at the request of the Guardians. Yet, there is still no Green Lantern of the Obsidian Depths. Why is this?
I keep reminding myself to post to this thread, but don't seem to. This is because:-
a) I have a deep requirement to not finish something. b) I have developed a Spaceopoly phobia. c) I have been brainwashed by the slenderly evil denizens of Galaxy XII.
Well, while we await the explosion of Nucelo-rockets that will destroy the whole galaxy of mind invaders from Galaxy XII (clearly it was c) even if they deny all knowledge of it)...
I'm giving this to Ibbs. He's very close and teasing out the answer would be a bit of an effort.
Swordsman was hoping to join and be an actual member. Then he'd use his status as an Avenger to run all the scams he wanted. "If I can join their team, there's nothing I won't be able to get away with!" Swordsy ended up tangling with Quicksilver, before Wanda took him down. A quick background check was enough to end his chances. A returning Hawkeye, upon hearing about this, shared the story of his origin and being left for dead by the Swordsman.
What particular thing did Blue Beetle succeed at doing, that irritated Power Girl so?
hint 1: it was something Power Girl also wanted to do hint 2: a doctor advised Beetle to do this
Not:
- cooking - fixing a software bug - seeing the inside of Oracle's clock tower - Sewing a new costume without a boob window in it - completing a Rubik's cube - getting along well with her cat - getting shot at by Max Lord
Ted was gaining weight, and the doctor was trying to figure out how to motivate him. The doc realized that Ted,, immature human being that he is, would be motivated by infuriating Kara. And so....
Ah, I had ruled out Nightwing as I thought *he* would be naturally the best at getting people to work together, so wouldn't need Faith.
I always thought of her as a writer's pet favourite character with mysteries only he was interested in, pushed into a prominent team where she wouldn't normally have stood a chance of membership.
Name the two X-Men event storylines from the 90s, produced only six months apart, where Cable disappeared at the end of the first and returned at the beginning of the second.
Ibby, you're my friend and all, and I know Spaceopoly games are all in fun, but if you didn't know enough about the question to make a full answer, there was really no point in replying. Of course, I forgive you, but I'm just saying.
To recap:
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
New question:
Name the two X-Men event storylines from the 90s, produced only six months apart, where Cable disappeared at the end of the first and returned at the beginning of the second.
It has already been established, through Ibby's reply, that one of the storylines is X-Cutioner's song.
I will turn the thread over to whoever names the other storyline.
I remember reading something like that, but it would be cheating to look it up! But I remember reading the name before and going "oh, this is so all about Magneto".
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Ibby, you're my friend and all, and I know Spaceopoly games are all in fun, but if you didn't know enough about the question to make a full answer, there was really no point in replying. Of course, I forgive you, but I'm just saying.
Aww but I get partial credit, right? A lot of trivia questions in Spaceopoly turn into "anyone playing just guesses anyone they think could fit"
Yes. The two storylines are X-Cutioner's Song and Fatal Attractions. The first, my favorite X-Men event of all time, and possibly my favorite superhero event ever. The second, my least favorite X-Men event of all time, and the beginning of the end as far as my "real time" involvement in the X-Men. The franchise kinda sorta bounced back with Age of Apocalypse, but immediately after that one, Fabian Nicieza was fired, driving the final nail in the coffin.
Well done Andy! I hadn't heard of that one. Before Ann's second hint, I was trying to cram Magneto into Armageddon to give the classic, well remembered X-Event Armagnetton! Rubbish event, but with a good Def Leppard soundtrack.
Well done Andy! I hadn't heard of that one. Before Ann's second hint, I was trying to cram Magneto into Armageddon to give the classic, well remembered X-Event Armagnetton! Rubbish event, but with a good Def Leppard soundtrack.
Thoth, LOL
And I appreciate the kind words about Def Leppard.
Yes. The two storylines are X-Cutioner's Song and Fatal Attractions. The first, my favorite X-Men event of all time, and possibly my favorite superhero event ever. The second, my least favorite X-Men event of all time, and the beginning of the end as far as my "real time" involvement in the X-Men. The franchise kinda sorta bounced back with Age of Apocalypse, but immediately after that one, Fabian Nicieza was fired, driving the final nail in the coffin.
Over to you, Andy.
Wow, how quality goes up and down over the X-verse!
I read part of X-Cutioner's Song early on, before reading the full thing by borrowing my aunt's collection. Quite nice. Fatal Attractions I also had read part of, but the part I did read didn't grab me enough to seek out the rest.
Let's stay in the X-Verse (since that's what I'm reading right now so that seems convenient)... Xavier pulls together a team to head into Shi'Ar space in order to warn them of a coming threat. He has picked some of his team for very specific reasons.
Why are Rachel Summers and James Proudstar on the team?
Rachel was there because of her link to the Phoenix Force and also because of her family relationship with Vulcan?
I remember reading about why James was there, but dang,, I forgot... was he ever linked to the Phoenix Force? I'm pretty sure there was another reason...
Nope to both guesses Ibby - there was another person on the team for their relationship to Vulcan
And Thoth, unfortunately the link to their respective cosmic identities is not part of it. In fact, at the time of the story, Rachel was an outlaw in Shi'Ar space for her connection to the Phoenix
Ah, it was Havok for the relationship to Vulcan then...
Was Xavier telepathic then?
Rachel for her telepathy
Warpath for... um... I really knew this before. Darn. I know he became close to Hepzibah, but this wasn't the reason for joining, right? Ok... Warpath because he had a grudge against Prof X, and Prof X wanted him along to "keep him on the straight and narrow" / question his judgment calls?
Rachel was needed because Xavier did not have telepathy at the time.
Warpath was chosen because he hated Professor X at one point (after all, he did kidnap Charles once) and Charles wanted someone on the team who could understand Vulcan's feelings.
Clue: this doesn't relate specifically to either team's purpose or philosophy on crime-fighting
When the JSA went through a split / schism, spouses Liberty Belle and Hourman chose to go on different teams. Why?
Clue: - happened after the Gog "schism"
Not: - anything to do with their marriage - to keep an eye on Magog or on Damage or on any specific hero - to follow Gog - related to opinions on developing legacy heroes - related to the philosophy of either schism
Not very knowledgeable about this team or era but did it have something to do with the Speed Force side of Jesse's powers? Something else to do with her "Jesse Quick" aspect and the original Flash Jay Garrick maybe, splitting up the speedsters or on the other hand needing to put them both on the same team?
Nope.. This character is related to an Earth hero (same power origins) but is a different character. They were trying to make the Marvel character more cosmic.
HINT: This character is related to an Earth hero (same power origins) but is a different character. They were trying to make the Earth Marvel character more cosmic. The Earth hero was a New Warrior
Remember the Earth hero was (kind of) a member of the New Warriors - think NYC and local The assassin also shares a name with a group of Batman villains
YES Darkhawk is the Earth hero. This guy was an alien who had gotten similar armor, revealing the darkhawks as the shepards of the Shi'Ar (or something like that)
This particular character shared a name with a group of Batman villains
Crumbs! The Ultimate Ultron (formerly Ultron 6) has attacked the UN to get at the creator of Adamantium. He's made of the stuff himself. How do the Avengers defeat him?
Hank Pym manages to neutralize the adamantium somehow?
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Thor sucks the power out with his hammer?
Ibby's closest. It was down to Hank Pym. He didn't neutralise the Adamantium as such. He did neutralise Ultron. Any idea how? If not, Ibby's closest for the win.
Andy's close enough for the win. Pym impersonated Adamantium's inventor. When Ultron read Pym's mind it received a preconditioned thought of "thou shalt not kill". As that was against its values, it had a meltdown.
Andy's close enough for the win. Pym impersonated Adamantium's inventor. When Ultron read Pym's mind it received a preconditioned thought of "thou shalt not kill". As that was against its values, it had a meltdown.
Really? Wow. So all the JLA needed to do to beat Amazo was...
... disband the JLA.
"Amazo has all the powers of the JLA. If there is no JLA, it has no powers!"
Who locked Captain America in a cell with a hot guy in his underwear?
Hint: This was not a standard Cap foe This character had mystical abilities
Not: Morgan LeFay Enchantress Dr. Strange Doctor Doom Egghead Ultron Maria Hill Red Skull Baron Zemo Kingpin Mandarin Magneto Beyonder! Kang! Yellowjacket Mystique
Who locked Captain America in a cell with a hot guy in his underwear?
Hint: This was not a standard Cap foe This character had mystical abilities This character was closely affiliated with one of the villains already guessed (who has been a major Avengers baddie in their own right)
Not: Morgan LeFay Enchantress Dr. Strange Doctor Doom Egghead Ultron Maria Hill Red Skull Baron Zemo Kingpin Mandarin Magneto Beyonder! Kang! Yellowjacket Mystique Dr. Druid Loki Mephisto Gath! Hellstorm
Dressed in the Captain Britain armor, Mordred easily defeated Captain America. When Cap woke up, he was wearing chains and across the room lay Brian Braddock, unconscious and in his underwear. When Steve finally roused Brian to consciousness, the two combined their strained efforts in pulling a giant brick from the wall. Together, they broke the chains with the heavy brick and managed to turn the tables on Mordred
I knew the power of the exclamation mark would get me there...eventually. Thanks to that Busiek/Perez Avengers story rather than the one in the answer.
Cap, Thor and Iron Man dismiss Wanda, Pietro, Clint and Vision from the Avengers, for protecting someone. Who were they protecting?
Why, without even having to post to the thread, Chaim has managed to get the right answer! They were protecting Captain Marvel from a sudden upsurge in anti alien sentiment. As Chaim's Power Cosmic also said, the original Avengers weren't themselves. They were Skrulls.
Funny thing is, until two weeks ago I couldn't have answered that question. But I just happened then to take out the Kree-Skrull War TPB from my local library!
Thoth lad has it - his name is Matthew (don't recall seeing it shortened to Matt on-panel, but it's one and the same). Don't know if he was named for Daredevil (no idea if either Ka-Zar or Shanna have any special history with him), but that's who he shares his first name with.
The answer is a combination of both Ibby and Andy.
Tippet was contacted by The Watcher. After droning on about forever being able to only watch, he completely meddles as usual. Tippet was infused with vast amounts of power and told to kill five people (Ibby's murder answer). It turned out that this was a ruse, to drain Tippet of power that would have destroyed the world (Andy's answer). Tippet sacrificed himself to prevent this power becoming a problem... or something.. I was too busy noticing that the Avengers were calling him an unimportant drab. Shows what they think of the little guy.
Since I would have taken moider as an answer, I'll give it to Ibby as he also answered foist.
I should know this. I've read it enough times but not for a few years now...
I think both of these were earlier but just in case: Doctor Fate (in female form)? General - er - Freedom? (Can't remember if that was his name but old guy supposedly he fought in WWII and saying a magic word/phrase turned him into super-righteous bloke that Guy Gardner almost worshipped - fought arch-nemesis who had a giant Nazi robot).
I should know this. I've read it enough times but not for a few years now...
I think both of these were earlier but just in case: Doctor Fate (in female form)? General - er - Freedom? (Can't remember if that was his name but old guy supposedly he fought in WWII and saying a magic word/phrase turned him into super-righteous bloke that Guy Gardner almost worshipped - fought arch-nemesis who had a giant Nazi robot).
Nope. stile86, you're the closest. But:
Female Doctor Fate came in much earlier in the series,
while General Glory joined shortly before Breakdowns, but not as a replacement.
Female Doctor Fate came in much earlier in the series,
while General Glory joined shortly before Breakdowns, but not as a replacement.
Yes I thought Doctor Fate was earlier and even General Glory (thank you for the name).
Breakdowns was the windup of the International JL, went for about 15? issues. There was the tale of Despero attacking again and the one about the sorcerer from - er - Silver something even though she was all in brown - anyway from her and Blue Jay's dimension. Guy was one of those dropped for sucker punching Beetle.
Still can't remember. Oh wait. Was it Lightray and Orion or was that earlier as well?
Correct description of Breakdowns, stile! Silver Sorceress was the lady all in brown, yeah, I know, not the best name... she and Blue Jay were obvious pastiches of Scarlet Witch and Wasp anyway...
But not Lightray and Orion, who briefly joined quite a bit earlier.
Name the two Justice Leaguers brought in to replace some "fired" members briefly, during the Breakdowns story arc.
Not:
Aquaman Flash Hal Jordan Doctor Fate (Linda Strauss) General Glory Lightray Orion
Tee hee. I've no memory of her rejoining at that time. I remember picking up JLA #60 for the Maguire art. That makes me think I pulled the plug on the main series some time before that. I'll have got them out of the bargain bin much later on.
CMK has it, it was Taz! He was attached to the JLI's Australian embassy before this, and would later become a re-official member of the JLI at the end of the Red Winter storyline.
In "The History of the DC Universe", there's a page dedicated to the Global Guardians, and depicted alongside them is a hero who has never been associated with that team. Who was that hero?
Toughie... post Crisis '80s....I keep seeing Dr Mist's face... but he *was* part of the team. Not Katana...not Doctor Light...not B'Wana Beast... not Congorilla… not Vixen...
It was none of those. That page only had one representative of any given country, and the United Kingdom was represented by Godiva, a genuine Global Guardian.
Oh yes, each had a flag and there was a primer. Thinks of unrepresented countries... no USA rep was there... tsk...what about Red Star ? I cant think of another Russian hero of the time. He was in Crisis in the montage of global guardians fighting the shadow demons.
Uh Oh! Graviton's power has gone out of control, and his entire floating island has crushed itself into a very heavy boulder! Now it's about to land on Manhattan! Which four heroes catch it?
Andy did indeed get 3, but stile gets the win for getting the fourth. Plus bonus points for getting the story too. Over to you stile!
Thankee. Sometimes you are lucky with the stories read.
Clark Kent has left the Daily Planet to be the Managing Editor of Newstime magazine. Lois misses his company and invites him out on a date but he declines. Why?
Chaim has it! (although I half wish Thoth's answer was correct)
Yes at this point the Eradicator (still a device, not a humanoid) is working to turn Supes into a more logical, unemotional, "pure" Kryptonian. When Lois bumps into him in the street (after musing to her sister that she is surprised to find she misses him) she invites him back to her place for tea but he responds that now that they are no longer work colleagues he sees no reason to socialise with her. He is then mildly surprised when she appears to be upset.
Going to have to wait for clues on this one. I have no idea who Rancor is (apart from that they are probably female) and don't want to look it up. Someone else go for it.
Not Lobo. Rancor is a Marvel character, from the Guardians of the Galaxy series - not the current one with Star Load and Groot, but the original one that took place in the Marvel Universe's future.
If no one comes up with any close answers soon, I'll think of a new question.
Going to have to wait for clues on this one. I have no idea who Rancor is (apart from that they are probably female) and don't want to look it up. Someone else go for it.
Same for me. Once we have clues I could make some educated guesses... or try to.
The answer is Talon, he was a cat-like Inhuman (who was also the apprentice to the Sorcerer Supreme) who joined the team during the aforementioned series. Rancor made him impregnate her against his will in order so she could bear an heir to the throne.
I remember reading an old Avengers years ago where Ultron kidnapped Wanda to get rid of her first because she had been key to "destroying" him last time.
Oh no! Terra-Man has captured Superman and imprisoned him in a rock that is impervious to all his powers except for Super-Strength. Superman can only use his super-strength by thinking of a certain image which he cannot remember. What is the image and how has Terra-Man removed it from his mind?
It's the image of Laurel Kent, who Superboy fancied in the future. It was Superman who removed the memory using Amnesium due the creepyness of it.Terra Man wants to know what the memory is, so he can blackmail Superman into doing his bidding.
It was Krypto! The doggy from his boyhood... who, when DC ignored him, went off to join the Interplanetary Canine Patrol and became much more heroic than any of Earth's human capes.
This is a bit trickier than I imagined. If no classic Superman fans chime in soon I will post another.
Clue: the image thought of is the pet of a supporting character who appeared in a handful of Superman comics in the early Bronze Age (early 70s) written by Cary Bates and drawn by Curt Swan.
I will leave this one more day in case someone else who grew up on Bronze Age Superman chimes in. This was the heyday of Terra-Man, Vartox, Clark Kent as a newsreader at Morgan Edge's WGBS, the Sandman Superman stealing his powers, and Curt Swan in top form.
Further clue: the pet in question is never given a name and is a mammal but not a normally domesticated breed and is the pet of a young boy.
Could it be that time Superman shared his powers with a young boy and his .... lynx?
Yay! Someone remembers! Absolutely correct.
In a previous story by Denny O'Neil an accident involving Ferlin Nyxly (a rare but sporadic recurring villain) and a young boy named Billy Anders who lives in Clark Kent's apartment building transfers Billy's mind into a Lynx. Billy is fine as long as he and the cat are kept close together. In a later story aliens zap Superman such that whenever he uses his Super-Strength he experiences an equal and opposite force against himself. Another alien helps him around this by transferring his Super-Strength to Billy, who can't use it but can store it. When Superman needs his strength he thinks of Billy's pet Lynx which briefly transfers his strength back to him to use and then returns it to Billy before the "boomerang" effect can strike Superman.
In this Terra-Man story by Cary Bates (who created the villain) TM telepathically notes Superman's use of the lynx image, tracks down Billy and kidnaps him and his lynx. He places the lynx in a telepathic shield which makes everyone forget about the lynx. Thus when he imprisons Superman in a hollow boulder made impervious to all his other powers, Superman can't remember the trigger image to regain his Super-Strength. However Billy figures it out and remembers his pet causing Superman to remember as well, and Superman breaks out, rescues Billy, and figures out a way to safely undo the transfer and restore them all to normal (which is a good thing for Billy because although he liked being Superman's temporary sidekick the Super-Strength was too much for his body and was making him unable to heal from the slightest injury).
Terra-Man (a villain I quite enjoyed) makes several more appearances but Billy only appears a handful more times before disappearing into the limbo of old unused Superman characters.
Thanks stile! I don't have the comics indeed Good read!
But now I'm curious, what happened to that nincompoop riding the motorcycle? He basically did a hit and run!
That's exactly what he did. He is one of many residents or visitors to 344 Clinton St (where Clark Kent has apartment 3-D) who only appeared once and were never seen again. There are a few who occasionally reappear (List of Residents at DC Wiki) but Jangles Jones the rock band drummer was not one of them either.
Thanks stile! I don't have the comics indeed Good read!
But now I'm curious, what happened to that nincompoop riding the motorcycle? He basically did a hit and run!
That's exactly what he did. He is one of many residents or visitors to 344 Clinton St (where Clark Kent has apartment 3-D) who only appeared once and were never seen again. There are a few who occasionally reappear (List of Residents at DC Wiki) but Jangles Jones the rock band drummer was not one of them either.
Myg's turn.
ooh! Thanks for confirming. Now this makes me mad: not only at the character, but for the writers/editors to introduce a very strange situation (man with lynx rides motorcycle indoors and hits child), with no follow up! I would have expected Superman to use his x-ray vision or superhearing or whatever to arrest that guy - what he did was definitely a crime!
Thanks stile! I don't have the comics indeed Good read!
But now I'm curious, what happened to that nincompoop riding the motorcycle? He basically did a hit and run!
That's exactly what he did. He is one of many residents or visitors to 344 Clinton St (where Clark Kent has apartment 3-D) who only appeared once and were never seen again. There are a few who occasionally reappear (List of Residents at DC Wiki) but Jangles Jones the rock band drummer was not one of them either.
Myg's turn.
ooh! Thanks for confirming. Now this makes me mad: not only at the character, but for the writers/editors to introduce a very strange situation (man with lynx rides motorcycle indoors and hits child), with no follow up! I would have expected Superman to use his x-ray vision or superhearing or whatever to arrest that guy - what he did was definitely a crime!
Yeah it was pretty bad when you think about it. Billy was (apparently) knocked unconscious and one of his legs was broken but even if he had come out of it with nary a scrape the motorcyclist should have been charged at the very least. Bronze Age I guess, better at dealing with issues than the Gold and Silver Ages but there were still a few plot devices that were never followed up.
It was indeed Miss America. In the Phil Jimenez run of Wonder Woman, Diana and Trevor are caught in a time warp and end up in WWII with the miniaturized Villainy, Inc. Hyppolyta is the Wonder Woman of that time and in the midst of battling Clea. Diana spins to transform her costume and ends up as Miss America, where her fighting style and multilingual capacity make Hyppolyta realize who she really is.
Myg has it. Mikaal was bisexual and thought Taz was cute, but Taz had made a comment about just coming back from the dead, and that he should go see his mother...
Taz WAS quite cute, in fact we saw him in his human, non-werewolf form, and he was relatively clean-shaven - not like the last time we saw him as human, which was around the time of Zero Hour.
Which 6 heroines did Wonder Woman designate as field leaders of the superheroine army she pulled together to battle Circie and her army of supervillains?
Sonar was trying to win Sue?s heart, and threatened to kill Ralph (Elongated Man)
Sue pretended to go over , but left Ralph a real diamond wedding ring as a clue. Ralph deduced that Sue was pretending because the wedding ring he gave her was fake diamond, but their love was real. so a real diamond meant fake love
Sonar was so thrilled by this that he believed Sue was telling him the truth, despite supposedly being able to use his tech to tell if someone were lying. and Sue was also a really good actress
always loved the Sue/Ralph dynamic, and how Sue played such a key role in the League
Sorry for the delay - Passover means a lot of off-line time. Just ask Colossal Boy!
The climax of Marvel's Annual "Evolutionary War" event happened, interestingly, in the Avengers Annual of that year...when the Avengers team had just disbanded in the regular monthly book! Who summoned the Avengers to action in that Annual, and which five Avengers (or "Avengers", in one case) answered the call?
Correct...in fact, more than correct. I'd forgotten about the Falcon. The one who I remembered (and you didn't, but I only asked for five) was the one who I referred to as an "Avenger" - the female Yellowjacket, who wasn't really an Avenger but who acted as one in the story.
It is not Hawkeye It IS Rick Jones as.... Rick Jones. He's actually non-powered and just wants the Hulk to calm down. When Hulk reverts to Banner, one of the Warbound tries to attack him to get the Hulk back. Rick jumps in the way, taking a fatal blow.
An assist to that Excalibur issue that had an alternate Rick Jones try and become the side kick to everyone in the Marvel Universe. I've only ever read a couple of Hulk issues. Very early ones.
Over in the Legion rereads, BION, who has the power of the entire Legion is fighting Laurel Gand.
But here, The Super Adaptoid, with many of the Avengers powers, is battling the team in Central Park. How do the Avengers defeat the foe who has all of their powers?
This was from an early Avengers story with Cap's Quirky Quartet wasn't it? Can't remember the ending. Overload him because they all attack at once and he can't switch fast enough?
stile for another win. Super Adaptoid overloaded trying to use all of the avengers powers at once. He'd absorbed Thor and Iron Man's powers in this one. His costume changes when he does it, which was a nice touch. In this case his head got little Thor wings and he had to visit the doctor due to rust problems.
stile for another win. Super Adaptoid overloaded trying to use all of the avengers powers at once. He'd absorbed Thor and Iron Man's powers in this one. His costume changes when he does it, which was a nice touch. In this case his head got little Thor wings and he had to visit the doctor due to rust problems.
If memory serves he also turned green which I never understood.
A woman is mugged and killed in an alley and a hobo dies of old age exacerbated by radiation poisoning. Batman investigates. How are these events connected and why are they a threat to Superman?
The woman is working for Luther, and has run off with some Kryptonite. The homeless guy was an innocent bystander trying to save the woman from Neutron, only to die from radiation poisoning. The crime occurs in Gotham, so Bats in investigating and it's a threat to Supes as Bats forgot to take his anti-Supes Kryptonite capsule out of his utility belt.
EDIT: I guess Super Adaptoid had the powers form early Avengers member, The Hulk
Did the events in the alley give rise to a new super villain, who somehow hates Superman?
No super villain creation.
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
The hobo had been exposed to Metallo who mugged the woman?
No. Metallo is not involved.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The woman is working for Luther, and has run off with some Kryptonite. The homeless guy was an innocent bystander trying to save the woman from Neutron, only to die from radiation poisoning. The crime occurs in Gotham, so Bats in investigating and it's a threat to Supes as Bats forgot to take his anti-Supes Kryptonite capsule out of his utility belt.
Incorrect although has elements. The woman used to work for Luthor (important), Kryptonite is involved but the mugging does not occur in Gotham.
Any of those points help? This might be a bit obscure for non-Superman readers so I am happy to entertain questions and will add more clues as I go.
This seems tantalizingly familiar. Is the woman victim that computer scientist who concluded that Superman was Clark Kent, and was fired for it because Luthor was too dense and egotistic, to accept that such a powerful Superman would deign to pass himself off as a lowly reporter?
You're definitely a big Supes fan, stile! I like learning about these cool stories through your trivia questions.
...and the winner of Pun of the Week is...stile86 for the use of "elements" in response to the mention of "Kryptonite" ? > Mad Audience Applause, but that's what you get when you host awards ceremonies in Arkham<
Originally Posted by stile86
Any of those points help? This might be a bit obscure for non-Superman readers so I am happy to entertain questions and will add more clues as I go.
Not a bit of it! When a Boom Tube delivered, Orion gnawed, bargain copies of Jimmy Olsen's series to me, it also delivered the Tombola of Silver Age Plotting! Perfect for answering this sort of thing!
Because my Supes comic books are a bit limited, the woman I remember working for him was the one who discovered that Clark & Supes were one and the same. Luther fired her. This would be in the first couple of Byrne issues. From the "(important)" bit, I might be one the right lines. Thinking back, Luthor was complete slime. Weinstein as a super villain.
So, does she then try and prove her theory? Before she goes she might steal some of Metallo's kryptonite from Luthor's lab. The homeless guy is someone who stole that sample at some point? It's a threat to Supes, because of the Kryptonite and that she knows his secret ID. Batman is involved because... due to the Kryptonite he can't solve this one so it's an early post crisis World's Finest as Bats pieces together the clues and solves the homeless guy's death. Supes & Bats weren't on good terms, so does some of the woman's Luthor-science get fenced in Gotham? That would start Bats on the trail.
This seems tantalizingly familiar. Is the woman victim that computer scientist who concluded that Superman was Clark Kent, and was fired for it because Luthor was too dense and egotistic, to accept that such a powerful Superman would deign to pass himself off as a lowly reporter?
You're definitely a big Supes fan, stile! I like learning about these cool stories through your trivia questions.
Thanks. Glad you enjoy learnign these tidbits.
Yes that is the woman, although this event happens 4 years later (in publishing time anyway).
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by stile
Incorrect although has elements.
...and the winner of Pun of the Week is...stile86 for the use of "elements" in response to the mention of "Kryptonite" ? > Mad Audience Applause, but that's what you get when you host awards ceremonies in Arkham<
LOL! Totally unintentional! Good spotting.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Because my Supes comic books are a bit limited, the woman I remember working for him was the one who discovered that Clark & Supes were one and the same. Luther fired her. This would be in the first couple of Byrne issues. From the "(important)" bit, I might be one the right lines. Thinking back, Luthor was complete slime. Weinstein as a super villain.
So, does she then try and prove her theory? Before she goes she might steal some of Metallo's kryptonite from Luthor's lab. The homeless guy is someone who stole that sample at some point? It's a threat to Supes, because of the Kryptonite and that she knows his secret ID. Batman is involved because... due to the Kryptonite he can't solve this one so it's an early post crisis World's Finest as Bats pieces together the clues and solves the homeless guy's death. Supes & Bats weren't on good terms, so does some of the woman's Luthor-science get fenced in Gotham? That would start Bats on the trail.
Yes you too have picked the right woman. Bonus points for guessing that she tried to prove her theory and did steal some kryptonite from Luthor.
OK I thought about holding out for one last detail, specifically the piece of kryptonite, but that seems a bit fussy. I am going to award the win to Thoth whose imaginative recreation covers a few more plot points. Here is the full story with some background (the writers during this period Jerry Ordway, Dan Jurgens and Stern McLeod were using lots of subplots and tying lots of lore together).
Way back in Superman vol 2 #1, Byrne's first new issue, Luthor captures Metallo just as he is about to kill Superman and tells Metallo that is a pleasure he is keeping for himself. He takes Metallo's kryptonite and fashions some of it into a jewel on a ring which he wears constantly on his right hand to tease Superman and keep him at bay. Not long after comes the incident you both remember when Luthor, wondering about how Clark Kent gets all the best Superman stories in the Daily Planet, puts one of his best scientist Amanda McCoy on to the problem and she concludes that Superman and Clark Kent are the same person, a conclusion that Luthor rejects. He is so enraged that he fires McCoy (after having forced her to spend the night with him) and makes sure that she can never find work again.
Over the years other plot points happen, such as the low level radiation from the kryptonite ring gives Luthor radiation poisoning, necessitating the amputation of his right hand (which he of course blames Superman for) and will eventually cause his death. Occasionally strange parcels arrive at Clark Kent's desk to the Daily Planet such as a scrapbook of newspaper clippings of disasters averted at the last minute and later clippings of Superman. He eventually finds out that it belongs to Ma Kent but not before Batman has deduced his double identity from it. In another seemingly unrelated incident a man superficially similar to Clark is rayblasted to death by Intergang in Kent's apartment while Superman is in exile in space and everyone thinks Clark is dead for a while but Superman has no idea who the dead stranger is.
Finally Amanda arranges a secret meeting with Kent where she uses the kryptonite ring to force him to admit he is Superman. He thinks this is some plot of Luthor's but once McCoy screams out her hatred for Luthor he suggests a teamup but collapses. Amanda thinks she has accidentally killed him and runs off in a panic. Wandering in a daze she is mugged and killed in a back alley.
Then follows the Three-part story titled "Dark Knight over Metropolis".
Superman is naturally worried about the mysterious lady with the ring who knows his identity but has no idea how to find her. Meanwhile an old hobo dies in an alley in Gotham showing signs of radiation poisoning. Amongst his few possessions Batman finds a strange green ring (which he determines has a low level of radioactivity - in this period of post-Crisis stories kryptonite is extremely rare and generally unknown which is why he does not immediately recognise it) and a bus token from Metropolis so heads there to investigate. Superman and Batman are not exactly friends during this period, in fact they find each other's methods of operating quite irritating. Nevertheless they team up to foil a plot by Intergang and to solve their mysteries which end up joined. It seem the muggers, who did not notice the ring which was later found in the alley by the hobo, stole Amanda's keys and ransacked her apartment but completely missed her diary telling the whole story including Superman's dual identity. In her attempts to prove her theory McCoy had mailed things like the scrapbook to Kent to provoke a reaction and hired a PI to investigate Kent without letting on why. It was the PI who was killed in Kent's apartement. After that Amanda didn't want to get anyone else killed and so stole the ring from Luthor's vault and confronted Clark. Batman has had the ring all along without letting Superman know but he now leaves it for him as he departs.
In the the concluding scene Superman visits Batman in his cave for the first time and gives the ring to him saying that although they may not be friends, if the need to stop him (Superman) ever arises he wants the means to do so in the hands of someone he can trust with his life.
Thanks for the information on what happened with that subplot. I think the start of it was exactly when I stopped reading the book. I was aware Amanda had come back, but I don't know if she'd been identified as such in the book. Superman had just gone into space. I don't think I outlasted Byrne's tenure by too long.
I have two questions! The second was something I tripped over, and might be a little hit or miss. So.?
1) The defeat of Despero had cost the JusticeLeagueAmerica the life of Mister Miracle (or so they thought). Max Lord looks to reinforce the team & J'Onn makes an invite. Who is asked to join/ change membership status in that issue & who turns up to join?
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5- 6 - 7 - 8 -
I'm not counting L-Ron!
The second question was... What was unusual about Doom Patrol member Scott Fisher's superhero career.
1) The defeat of Despero had cost the JusticeLeagueAmerica the life of Mister Miracle (or so they thought). Max Lord looks to reinforce the team & J'Onn makes an invite. Who is asked to join/ change membership status in that issue & who turns up to join?
I should know the answer to this. I collected and read all of JLI/JLA/JLE right through to the end of the run but my memory is a bit vague on these later issues. It was a robot copy of MM that died crashing a shuttle into Despero wasn't it? Hmm. Was this when Tasmanian Devil was recruited?
I have vague recollections of this, but can't quite figure it out
1) The defeat of Despero had cost the JusticeLeagueAmerica the life of Mister Miracle (or so they thought). Max Lord looks to reinforce the team & J'Onn makes an invite. Who is asked to join/ change membership status in that issue & who turns up to join?
1 - Black Canary 2 - General Glory 3 - Hal Jordan 4 - Aquaman 5- Power Girl 6 - Blue Jay 7 - Wonder Woman 8 - Batman
The second question was... What was unusual about Doom Patrol member Scott Fisher's superhero career.
Wasn't that the kid who could acid burn through things because he was exposed to toxic waste as a kid? He died of the cancer his powers gave him
Like with CMK, I remember the recruitment drive, but not all the details. i do know it was a mix between former Leaguers and entirely new heroes.
1 - Hawk 2 - Dove 3 - Starman Will Payton 4 - Huntress 5 - El Diablo 6 - Orion 7 - Lightray 8 - Lobo
On Scott Fisher: didn't he slip into a coma and die during Invasion?
Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by thoth lad
1) The defeat of Despero had cost the JusticeLeagueAmerica the life of Mister Miracle (or so they thought). Max Lord looks to reinforce the team & J'Onn makes an invite. Who is asked to join/ change membership status in that issue & who turns up to join?
I should know the answer to this. I collected and read all of JLI/JLA/JLE right through to the end of the run but my memory is a bit vague on these later issues. It was a robot copy of MM that died crashing a shuttle into Despero wasn't it? Hmm. Was this when Tasmanian Devil was recruited?
I'm pretty sure that wasn't. The Mr. Miracle copy died before Breakdowns, Taz showed up in Breakdowns. Taz was already attached to the JLI Australia embassy earlier on, but only went to join the American branch during Breakdowns.
It was a robot copy of MM that died crashing a shuttle into Despero wasn't it?
Yes, it was.
Originally Posted by stile
Hmm. Was this when Tasmanian Devil was recruited?
No, it wasn't. Ibby has all the Taz facts above. I did wonder why we never saw much of him at the time, even though he was part of the global team.
1) Starman (Will Payton) 2) El Diablo 3) Hawk 4) Dove (Dawn Granger) 5) Batman 6) 7) Orion 8) Lightray
Guy Gardner tried to fight Starman into joining. Fire had a long chat with El Diablo, with Beetle getting bored at the bar. Huntress & Ice felt that Hawk & Dove were rude about not wanting to join. Huntress has been mind controlled by Max Lord to even be on the team. Orion & Lightray arrive as real Scott goes on extended leave to be with Barda. Batman is asked to move from part time status to full time, by J'Onn, but declines. J'Onn is also looking to take some leave, which is why he asked Bats back.
One to get.
Q2.
Originally Posted by Ibbster
On Scott Fisher: didn't he slip into a coma and die during Invasion?
Yes, he did. Clearing the decks for Morrison's run.
Originally Posted by stile
Didn't read much of this run except for crossovers. Did he never get a super-hero name before he died?
Yay! Right first time. He might have only got his name in a previews magazine, but got bumped off before they gave it to him in the book.
That last one is going to bug me until I or someone else gets it. I can see the Mike McKone artwork in the issue like it was yesterday, but I'm blanking on another recruit/re-joiner that I've missed...
Chaim has it! It was Gypsy. The story follows on from Despero taking his revenge on the Justice League Detroit. Gypsy has lost her family, but declines J'onn's invitation to join the team. She'd turn up in Justice League Task Force.
Chaim has it! It was Gypsy. The story follows on from Despero taking his revenge on the Justice League Detroit. Gypsy has lost her family, but declines J'onn's invitation to join the team. She'd turn up in Justice League Task Force.
I knew I'd remember once someone said it. As soon as Chaim said Gypsy I was thinking "of course!" Good job Chaim.
I have to say, until that last clue, I totally forgot about that. In retrospect, it felt more like an offer of "you always have a home with us" than an invitation to join the actively fighting super-hero team, which would have been a bit of a raw wound to her at that time.
In any case: Who were the two umpires (home plate and field) in the super-heroes vs super-villains baseball game arranged by Huntress and Sportsmaster?
it felt more like an offer of "you always have a home with us" than an invitation to join the actively fighting super-hero team, which would have been a bit of a raw wound to her at that time.
J'Onn: ? Have you considered my proposal? Gypsy: To join the JLA? A little later... Max: She turned us down, didn't she?
Ibby is correct! I recently wrote an article about that issue as one of a series of posts about baseball-related comic books for a web site about my favorite baseball team.
nice article, CMK! you apply your excellent knowledge of both DC comics and baseball well. I know nearly nothing about baseball, but I appreciated your insights on, for example, Supes/Sportsmaster batting last. and also the implications of Huntress' career, and especially the silliness of two minor league villains having such a powerful transportational device....
ah, what a fun story that was. silly, but fun.
Okay, let's see...
Which two Justice Leaguers helped convince Maya to stay away from her "abusive" parents?
Thanks for the kind words. That's the third article in the series, but unless you ask (no pressure) I won't post links to the first two. I'm not big on self-promotion, I only put stuff out there if I know there's interest, and you already said you're not big into baseball.
As to your question...I wasn't reading JLE at that time, so all I know is who the members were...Hal Jordan and Wally West?
And for the question - Doctor Light and Power Girl?
you got it! The three went to India together to represent the JLI. Maya's parents were part of a cult that believed Maya was the reincarnation of Shiva... when Kimiyo and Kara tried to help Maya get away, the cult blasted them. Maya was shocked into action, and left her parents to go with the team that showed concern for her welfare.
Also: thanks for the articles. Interesting how Marvel let the heroes use their powers... LOL at Wonder Man being a horrible pitcher. It's a bit too bad that the Avengers games didn't have as much background detail as the DC one, but I guess the DC one was in a special issue while the Avengers ones were in the midst of other stories, so that makes sense. Love the annotations you put for people who watch the TV series, great way to introduce the comics to new fans coming in from other media. And I found your articles very accessible despite my lack of in-depth Avengers knowledge, you explained the "what happened before" really well!
It was worth money, and he eventually sold it for money, but it wasn't money itself.
Hint: It was something that was originally thrown in the trash (and was at that time worthless), but at the time Spider-Man took it, it was worth quite a bit.
Nope. (And at the time, the Green Goblin was believed dead and no others were using the name. Hobgoblin was a big presence, and the only goblin, in the Spider-Man books of the era.)
OK, it's clear that we do not have a lot of mid-80's Marvel readers here.
It happened in Secret Wars II. The Beyonder came to Earth, seeking to understand humanity, and he got some insight about it from Luke Cage. Unfortunately, he was still naive, so...caused a disaster of sorts....and Spider-Man helped save lives in the aftermath of that disaster. He saw the government express its gratitude to another party who was helping in said aftermath, and decided he deserved something too, and took it.
Yes! There was one golden item, but if no one can say before midnight what it was, the next question is yours.
I actually liked the way it began, it seemed like what you would expect of an alien being with no idea what drives human beings. Luke explained to him very clearly how humans need to exchange money for things, and (inaccurately, for the 1980's) that cash represents gold, whereupon the Beyonder "paid him for his services" (almost certainly Luke didn't get a cent of it) by turning an office building and all of its contents into gold. Also, who couldn't love Spider-Man potty training the Beyonder?
But after issue 3 or so it went completely off the rails. I don't know if Shooter actually planned most of that mess or if he went into the series with only a premise, a beginning and an end, but only vague ideas of what should come in the middle which he made up on the fly. And I remember feeling that issue # 7, in which Mephisto gathers nearly every super-villain that ever appeared in a Marvel comic to attack the Beyonder, was nothing but a blatant rip-off of the Villain War, issues 9 and 10 of Crisis on Infinite Earths.
I also wasn't crazy about the Al Milgrom-Steve Leialoha art. They're decent workhorses for a regular series, but when doing a mega-crossover (especially before they became obligatory annual events), a company should enlist its best.
I did read Secret Wars II but just the once and can't even remember the gold building incident. I remember the Beyonder choosing a copy of Steve Roger's body for himself (although later changing his hair black and curling it), the Spider-man sometimes villain Puma almost killing him but failing when he doubted himself, using Phoenix (Rachel Summers) to almost destroy the universe but learning from her and the X-Men about life and existence afterwards, and I remember the final battle and his "death" and becoming a new universe followed by the Molecule Man healing the Earth with Silver Surfer's help. The series had some good moments but I think they were more from other writers in crossovers than from the main series itself.
He was. He sold is through a fence (he followed the cat burglar Black Fox to him) for far less than market value in order to pay off Aunt May's boyfriend's gambling debt.
He attempted to. But said boyfriend died very soon after. In fact, he ran up the gambling debt in the hopes of having a little something to leave for Aunt May because his time was near.
Well, he didn't take it to help Aunt May's boyfriend. He took it because he saw the government rewarding the Kingpin with a few golden typewriters for his help in keeping a lid on the golden building and for his help in quickly disposing of it. Spider-Man got upset and decided that if the Kingpin can get something out of it, he should too. He spent years in the comics agonizing about it until the Aunt May's boyfriend situation presented itself.
Oh, no, I meant I understand why Aunt May's boyfriend ran up a big gambling debt. Wasn't talking about Spidey's motivation (he spent YEARS agonizing over it? what a long-running plot point!)
Sure was. It seemed to always be simmering in the background. It was an obvious solution (of sorts) to Peter's frequent money woes, but he kept feeling bad about having come by it dishonestly, and worried that if he showed up somewhere with a golden notepad, someone would start to dig into the truth. (Why he couldn't ask the Human Torch to melt it into an ingot I haven't the foggiest idea.)
Which two heroes were present when Joe Public gained his powers during Bloodlines?
1. Batman 2. ???
Not: Power Girl Huntress Superman Steel Azrael Robin
HINT: This was one of Alan Grant's creations - she only appeared a few times. I thought she was rather brilliant - would have been a good fit in the Birds of Prey but Anarky and Hitman ended up being the big breakouts at that point
It was NOT Anima This was a character introduced in an earlier issue - a woman who was seeking revenge on society and chose a codename reflecting her rejection of modern civilization...
oh! I actually KNOW that character! I read her introduction issue, where she beats up the two guys who raped her sister (and led to her sister's death I think). She really traumatized them, especially the first one whom she had for longer. I thought that was nice writing, really showing the consequences of a horrible act like rape. Almost wish she had had the second one for longer too, to really teach him a lesson (though she did a number on him too before Batman stopped her).
She didn't spring to mind because I didn't really think of her as a hero, that issue ended with Batman catching her and knocking her unconscious.
And I also think she didn't appear very much after that.
None of those either. Just to clarify the time-frame, this was shortly after their return from Limbo - they had that ten-issue Justice Society of America (not abbreviated JSA) series (though this specific scene did not occur in that series), and Zero Hour hadn't yet happened.
Myg has it - it was Dinah Drake Lance, the first Black Canary. She died on Secret Origins # 50, in the story that laid out the revised, Post-Crisis Black Canary origin story, and the JSA found out that a teammate had died after their return from Ragnarok-Limbo following Armageddon: Inferno.
In DC 1 Million, Bruce Wayne is projected into the DC future to take Batman 1 Million's place on Pluto, the prison planet. As things go awry, Robin the Toy Wonder releases the one inmate who can help Bruce - the best thief in the universe - CATWOMAN.
Yay! I had thought it was Silver Age Sci-Fi Batman, until I got your clue. Then it was a process... well of not being able to think of anyone better Catwoman might have had an ongoing title at the time too, which helped me along.
Speaking of cats, my mistress is sitting at the computer demanding cat videos. A question will arrive some time after that's all done.
Oh yeah! One of the best of the Gerry Anderson openings. Great stuff!
Not Spidey, Namorita, Hyperion and Man-Thing. Not a hero at all, actually, and not connected to being underwater either. It's not a two bit villain though, it's ...
Oh, when I said it's not a two bit villain, I meant that it was a big Marvel villain, so you'd not all have to trawl (tee hee, keeping in with Hydrobase puns) through lots of second string villains to guess the answer.
Zabo was trying to build a life. Even though it was slightly crooked. Matt was responsible for shutting it down. So he's off on a Hyde rampage and Matt dons his Daredevil costume to stop it?
Also there is a significant amount of irony in the event.
In fact anyone hurt by Hyde in the future could be a bit upset with Daredevil.
If Hyde uses a potion like film Jekyll & Hyde, did Daredevil prevent him using it to change back to Zabo?
Thoth gets the win.
In Daredevil #235 Hyde has been robbing banks to support his lifestyle and experiments but when he tries to evade police by turning back in to Zabo he finds that his formula/potion no longer works. He escapes with brute force and later in his/Zabo's lab he discovers that he has been spending so much time as Hyde that his DNA has been altering. He tries experiment after experiment to find a new formula. He finally finds one that reacts appropriately to a sample of his blood but then realises that its effects will be permanent. The potion will revert him to Zabo but he will never be able to become Hyde again. He decides he would rather live as a man than a monster and is about to drink it when Daredevil drops in through the skylight (New York must be full of the things) he has been observing Hyde through, thinking that Hyde is trying to increase his strength or power. Hyde decides he was about to make a terrible mistake as whenever any superheroes or police came after him he would have no protection without Hyde so he smashes the potion and attacks Daredevil, even more enraged that unlike Daredevil who can still take off his costume and pass for a man, he is now "forced" by Daredevil to be stuck as a monster.
The story, by Danny Fingeroth who I know nothing about, is mostly about Daredevil struggling with his dual identity and if he should really be Daredevil or Matt fulltime and the Zabo/Hyde plot is meant to be seen as a contrast, but he doesn't quite pull it off. It wasn't until I looked back at the comic to get the details right that I was reminded of the Daredevil quandary/struggle whereas the irony of his stopping Hyde from changing to Zabo forever has always stuck in my brain.
Good hinting along the way with that one stile. Thanks. It never occurred to him to work on a potion that would just change him into something less monstrous? It's not like he's short of mad scientist contacts. Mind you, he's a bit shy, preferring to hyde away. Tee hee.
She Hulk races into combat to prove herself as an Avenger against the Masters of Evil. But she's stopped by The Wasp. Why?
Stile gets it! Wasp has designed casual wear for Jennifer to wear. As it's an original she doesn't want it ruined in a fight. This is while the others are being attacked. Jennifer end up fighting the villains in her undies.
You're kidding! That was just a joke, trying to mimic the humour you so often fabulously display Thoth. There was the ongoing joke in Avengers of Wasp's frequently changing costume as she exercised her skill as a fashion designer. I guess this must have been during the Byrne run on her title?
Lois is slightly annoyed at Clark's lack of a common household item and warns him with an amused smile on her face that "things are going to have to change around her when we are married, buster!"
What item is missing and why doesn't Clark have one?
You're kidding! That was just a joke, trying to mimic the humour you so often fabulously display Thoth. There was the ongoing joke in Avengers of Wasp's frequently changing costume as she exercised her skill as a fashion designer. I guess this must have been during the Byrne run on her title?
Lois is slightly annoyed at Clark's lack of a common household item and warns him with an amused smile on her face that "things are going to have to change around her when we are married, buster!"
What item is missing and why doesn't Clark have one?
I was surprised as well. Really, Wasp? I guess the villain threat wasn't that big, I always had Jan pegged as someone more serious
You're kidding! That was just a joke, trying to mimic the humour you so often fabulously display Thoth. There was the ongoing joke in Avengers of Wasp's frequently changing costume as she exercised her skill as a fashion designer. I guess this must have been during the Byrne run on her title?
I did find it funny. It was all the better because it came from known character traits. It's also a clever twist on the time it takes heroes to get into costumes while there's a battle going on.
There's also a running gag with crushed cars and a payoff to the She Hulk - Hawkeye squabble when she kisses him to shut him up.
I'm not sure it was Byrne. Pym is in jail and Wasp is on front pages in a good way. They face off against Egghead's Masters of Evil.
Hint: Myg is on the right track that it is something he doesn't need because of his super-powers but something that most of us earth humans would need occasionally.
You're kidding! That was just a joke, trying to mimic the humour you so often fabulously display Thoth. There was the ongoing joke in Avengers of Wasp's frequently changing costume as she exercised her skill as a fashion designer. I guess this must have been during the Byrne run on her title?
I did find it funny. It was all the better because it came from known character traits. It's also a clever twist on the time it takes heroes to get into costumes while there's a battle going on.
There's also a running gag with crushed cars and a payoff to the She Hulk - Hawkeye squabble when she kisses him to shut him up.
I'm not sure it was Byrne. Pym is in jail and Wasp is on front pages in a good way. They face off against Egghead's Masters of Evil.
I looked it up and found it way back in Avengers #222, not long after She-Hulk joined the team. Your mention of Hank being in jail gave me the clue. Fun story. Apparently it was plotted by Jim Shooter during his tenure as Editor-in-Chief. Script was by Steven Grant who I am unfamiliar with but scripted/wrote a variety of titles for Marvel around this period. Interestingly to Legion fans the penciller was none other than Greg LaRocque with inks by Brett Breeding. The artwork is fine for the period but I think he had definitely improved by the time of his Legion stint.
No right answers yet although you are partly correct about Clark's shaver. In Byrne's Man of Steel mini-series introducing his rebooted Superman Clark used a curved piece of metal from his spaceship to reflect his heat vision to burn off his super strong stubble, but he did own an electric shaver which he turned on to provide the background sound while Lois was waiting in his livingroom.
A further hint is that this item is not an appliance and may not be in every household but it or a substitute is needed for certain occasional maintenance tasks. Clark has never needed one because of one particular aspect of his powers.
Was it a telephone book? Clark doesn't need one because he has so many ways to communicate with people: signal watch, x-ray vision to look it up, just flies at super speed...
Further hint: If the item is unavailable a piece of furniture may sometimes be substituted. Also the particular power that means Clark does not need one has not been mentioned yet. The item is only needed occasionally to fix a common household maintenance issue although it can be used for other purposes. You could probably buy the item either at a furniture store or a hardware store.
Final clue: What iconic power does Superman have, along with numerous other heroes, that is often stated as the most desired super-power? That's the one that causes Lois complaint. Then think about how that could help around the house/unit/apartment and what item the rest of us mortals have to use in its place.
Most desired super-power? I read a site once where "most desired super-power" was defined as the super-heroic build (male or female) I would definitely want to have a body like a superhero's.
Ibby gets the win! Close enough and the correct reason.
Lois and Clark were cooking when the smoke alarm started going off. Lois was leaping up trying to reach it and asking Clark if he didn't have a step-stool. Clark casually floated up to the ceiling and shut the alarm off, remarking that he never seemed to need one prompting Lois' reply, with a wry smile, that some things were going to change around here when they were married, "buster". It was a great little domestic scene that spoke volumes about their relationship.
My clues were trying to point to the need to change light bulbs (although with long-lasting LED globes now more common this is becoming less necessary) but there always come times when we need to reach something up high or near the ceiling and Clark's powers made that as simple as walking across the room is to us. What used to be the Superman catch-cry? "Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! No it's Superman!" Flying is intimately tied to him and yet now so common among heroes that so many other powers are what you all first thought of.
nice one, stile. This really made me think. And I liked how your clues could lead someone who never read the story, to still getting the correct guess (that was how I got to it: I was thinking, which of Superman's powers haven't been said yet and could be most desired? Once I thought about flying, this felt right. It also helps that my apartment has a ridiculously high ceiling, and that the ugly paintings that come with it are too high for me to reach!)
Well the first image I saw from Justice Society of America #3 cover reminded me of the famous Marilyn Monroe image from "The Seven Year Itch" but that wasn't a musical and even if it inspired that particular image I doubt it inspired her costume.
Then I saw one with her hat and with the stockings I guess it has to be "The Wizard of Oz".
Thanks Ibby and I am glad you didn't give it to me for Wizard of Oz. Yes Wicked has its roots there but it is very different - or so I have heard. I haven't ever seen Wicked, just know what it is about. My sister thinks it is one of the best musicals she has ever seen and she has seen a lot.
Mr Fantastic has some news for She-Hulk that he expects will make her quite upset, but to his surprise she is fine with it. What is the news?
They're letting The Thing back into the team. Since Richard's team is secretly funded by Fantastic Four merchandise, there can't be five, so she's out.
Thanks Ibby and I am glad you didn't give it to me for Wizard of Oz. Yes Wicked has its roots there but it is very different - or so I have heard. I haven't ever seen Wicked, just know what it is about. My sister thinks it is one of the best musicals she has ever seen and she has seen a lot.
Yeah, and Wizard of Oz and Wicked aren't as related as, say, two Harry Potter books would be to one another. I liked Wicked quite a bit, a nice look into the "Wicked" Witch that we all saw and knew as a villain...
Thanks Ibby and I am glad you didn't give it to me for Wizard of Oz. Yes Wicked has its roots there but it is very different - or so I have heard. I haven't ever seen Wicked, just know what it is about. My sister thinks it is one of the best musicals she has ever seen and she has seen a lot.
Yeah, and Wizard of Oz and Wicked aren't as related as, say, two Harry Potter books would be to one another. I liked Wicked quite a bit, a nice look into the "Wicked" Witch that we all saw and knew as a villain...
I borrowed the book Wicked was based on from the library once but because of other things happening never read much of it. What I did read was pretty good and was a really interesting concept. Must borrow it again one day.
Hercules entered battle drunk (a few times) and I believe Thor did too.
It actually wouldn't surprise me if more had, to be honest
When I was trying to figure out what to ask, I was coming across these issues where the hero is drunk or drinking - and they are Avengers! It's an odd way to "mature" the book (though I found Carol's experience to be particularly ham-handed)
What is Quicksilver showing off to his Avengers colleagues that almost gets him into a fight with Hawkeye and Hercules, forcing Captain America to try and restrain him?
Not a battle trophy nor a baseball. Although WCA was the first issue I pulled from a box, I knew Andy would go down that route. So, I switched it for a much earlier Avengers issue.
I think Ibby is close enough to not have to pin it down further. He was showing off his powers. Specifically, it was his newfound power of flight. He used it to wind up Hawkeye and Herc, and Cap had to intervene. This was back in the day that every issue started with them sitting around, before squabbling with each other.
This is sounding familiar now. I seem to remember Alicia surviving. Can't remember the other. I think this was another story but was it Captain America who had been place in suspended animation?
There was a WHAT IF story where Galactus won. The only survivors from Earth were the Fantastic Four, plus two others. Who were these two?
Alicia Masters is one
The other is a female, costumed super-hero
Not:
Spider-Man Doctor Doom Captain America Namor Rick Jones Quasar Dr. Strange Punisher Silver Surfer Iron Man Thor Crystal Marvel Girl Carol Danvers Medusa
The Avengers (and former Avengers, I think, need to check the timing) showed up early in the fight. Wasp went in to infiltrate Galactus' ship and was knocked out... which saved her life, as she was safely on it when the ship took off. The rest of the Avengers were quickly killed by Galactus.
The Fantastic Four ran away to a spaceship of theirs; Torch plucked Alicia out of the crowd just before they made their escape.
If I remember the ending, the Four + Alicia + Wasp eventually convinced Galactus to only consume uninhabited worlds
Annihilus was the one who forced Reed to put Franklin in a coma.
The other, who caused Franklin to wake up, is not generally considered a Fantastic Four villain. But the Maximus guess is close...Maximus was responsible for this villain attacking the FF.
Ultron is the correct answer! Maximus the Mad affixed the head of Ultron-6 to the body of Omega, the ultimate Alpha Primitive and the artificial being now calling itself Ultron-7 attacked the wedding of Crystal and Quicksilver. Ultron's encephalo-ray, which hypnotized the assembled heroes into paralysis, awakened the comatose Franklin, who in turn used his ill-defined mental powers to deactivate the villain.
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also 6 heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those six.
We'll fill those in as we go. In one post, you can guess as few as one or as many as the remaining, unrevealed spots. I'll give clues, if needed, as we go.
I think Spider-Man became a herald once, somewhere, somehow?
and Mister Fantastic sort-of became a herald, not empowered, but there was a What If where he led Galactus to uninhabited worlds (after he, the rest of the classic Four, Wasp and Alicia Masters were the only survivors of Earth...)
I think Spider-Man became a herald once, somewhere, somehow?
I think you may be remembering when he was Captain Universe?
Originally Posted by Ibby
and Mister Fantastic sort-of became a herald, not empowered, but there was a What If where he led Galactus to uninhabited worlds (after he, the rest of the classic Four, Wasp and Alicia Masters were the only survivors of Earth...)
I've decided to accept this answer in place of one on my list. It was from the Ultimate Universe and a character I've never heard of: Anti-Man. (I misread it as Ant-Man.)
BTW, I think Dazzler was kinda-sorta in real continuity a herald in Dazzler 11-12.
How are we defining "herald"? Is it just someone who helps Galactus in any way at all? Or someone who specifically finds him planets to eat? In Dazzler 11-12, Dazzler just helped Galactus retrieve Terrax from inside a black hole. It was only in a What If? reality that she was a finding-planets herald.
How are we defining "herald"? Is it just someone who helps Galactus in any way at all? Or someone who specifically finds him planets to eat? In Dazzler 11-12, Dazzler just helped Galactus retrieve Terrax from inside a black hole. It was only in a What If? reality that she was a finding-planets herald.
Okay, my source and memory were incorrect on that one. But I feel her starring role in a What If? story as a Herald justifies her inclusion in the list, even if it's out of continuity.
I've since been able to verify the rest of my list, except, perhaps, Ibby's Reed Richards guess. I will reduce the list to five and go from there.
Basically, everyone on the list has either been called "Herald" or worked under at least the pretense of finding Galactus a world to consume or both. Some were also given the Power Cosmic. Good enough?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to three guesses in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) 4) 5)
Stephen Strange was a Herald in the storyline "Herald Supreme" last year in Doctor Strange Vol. 5, issues 12-16.
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed)
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to two guesses in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) 5)
Johnny Storm was a Herald (as Invisible Boy, no less) in the storyline "Rising Storm" that appeared near the end of the Waid/Weiringo run in FF 520-523. Waid also wrote the "Herald Supreme" storyline, so he has re-used the basic idea.
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed)
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5)
In the opening arc, not yet completed, of the current Thor series by Donnie Cates, Thor is imbued with the Power Cosmic and is the "Herald of Thunder".
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed)
Interesting, I was thinking of him from earlier Thor-Galactus stories.
One more to guess...the Punisher? (And yes, I know that Galactus had used an unrelated robot with that name in his first appearance.) Frank Castle seems like such a down-to-Earth type of hero, but he's had some pretty far-out incarnations, maybe herald of Galactus was one such.
There has been a cosmic-powered Punisher from the future appearing recently but I don't remember him being Galactus Herald. I will be interested to hear if it is the correct answer.
Iron Man spent some time in space with the Guardians. Did he ever become a Herald?
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5)
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5)
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May
Although Peter Parker undoubtedly, considers her a hero, she is generally considered a supporting character. I'm aware of that story, but I think that specific detail in the question disqualifies her.
Rick Jones? Lord knows he was everyone else's sidekick.
Not EVeryone's yet!
Originally Posted by Myg - Andy S
Frankie Raye?
Nah, as Nova, Frankie was an official Herald and was with the Big G for more than one story or storyline.
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5)
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5)
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye, Mar-Vell, Rachel Summers, Wolverine, Vision
At least one of the last round of guesses was on the right track, regarding the hint! (If no correct guesses this round, another hint will come.)
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5)
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye, Mar-Vell, Rachel Summers, Wolverine, Vision, Sue Storm, Cable, Hulk, Quasar
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5)
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye, Mar-Vell, Rachel Summers, Wolverine, Vision, Sue Storm, Cable, Hulk, Quasar, Daredevil, Hercules, Captain America
Well I'm stuck. I only remember Rick Jones being associated with Hulk, Mar-Vell and Captain America and they have all been eliminated. Of course Rick has been used in other roles but none come to mind at the moment.
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
(Up to one guess in subsequent posts.)
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5)
Incorrect: Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Professor X, Spider-Man, Reed Richards (unconfirmed), Punisher, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Aunt May, Rick Jones, Frankie Raye, Mar-Vell, Rachel Summers, Wolverine, Vision, Sue Storm, Cable, Hulk, Quasar, Daredevil, Hercules, Captain America, Wonder Man, Genis-Vell
Other than the Silver Surfer, there have been 11 Heralds of Galactus. There were also five heroes who fulfilled the role for the duration of one story or arc. Name those five.
1) Dazzler 2) Doctor Strange 3) Johnny Storm 4) Thor 5) Rom
Yes! Rick partnered with Rom just before returning to the Hulk title during the long, classic, Peter David run.
Rom's Marvel comic ran for 75 issues, but as a lapsed licensed character, Marvel no longer can depict or refer to him directly. Rom is currently with publisher IDW.
Circa Rom #27, Galactus threatened Galador, Rom's homeworld. In exchange for sparing Galador, Rom agreed to lead Galactus to a different world to consume. The world was the home of the Dire Wraiths, Rom's nemeses. The world proved toxic for Galactus, who was unable to consume it and in fact nearly perished in the attempt.
Nope. She refused the invitation to the initial meeting outright, and later sent agents to infiltrated the team and take it over (though she lost that pretty quickly).
Princess Python? I know she had trouble since she was unpowered and tried to run away but was caught, but it sounds like you are referring to someone else.
I am referring to someone else. She joined the Society, she just got expelled for cowardice after the mission you are remembering. The person I'm referring to attended the initial meeting (unlike Viper) but walked out without joining (unlike Cobra and Princess Python).
Paladin has it! Constrictor walked out on them, believing that he was better than them and could make more money staying independent.
I read Mark Gruenwald's run on Cap as it came out. (I think I dropped it around "Cap Wolf".) I remember that a high-profile snake character refused to join. At the time, Constrictor appeared a LOT! It was just a matter of remembering which then-prominent character it was.
Michael Jon carter, a.k.a. Booster Gold, was originally going to call himself "Goldstar", a name which he repurposed as his own company and which his sister Michelle eventually used as her own costumed identity. "Booster" was a nickname from his days playing quarterback in future Gotham City. The reason he became "Booster Gold" was a mishap at the press conference that introduced Booster to the world.
"Ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome..." The person introducing him paused and whispered, "What did you say your name was?"
A nervous Booster stammered, "uhh...Booster...no Gold--"
"The one..the only...BOOSTER GOLD!"
Who was this famous person who introduced Booster Gold to an unsuspecting world?
The villainous Rope was twice captured by what Golden Age hero?
Hints:
1) It is a character originally published by DC. 2) It is not a member of the Justice Society. 3) The first encounter with the Rope was in a feature that starred another character. 4) It is a character who was never a member of the All-Star Squadron.
Not: Plastic Man, Mr. Terrific, Hourman, Jay Garrick, Madam Fatal, The Whi;p, Tarantula, Johnny Quick
The Rope first appeared in Star-Spangled Comics #83, in what would turn out to be the last Golden Age appearance of the Star-Spangled Kid and Stripesy, and would appear again in Star-Spangled Comics #84, in Merry's first solo adventure.
The Rope first appeared in Star-Spangled Comics #83, in what would turn out to be the last Golden Age appearance of the Star-Spangled Kid and Stripesy, and would appear again in Star-Spangled Comics #84, in Merry's first solo adventure.
Over to you, Ibby!
Never heard of her! Must have been a rip-off of Boy of 1000 Faces!
Really? In possibly Roy Thomas's worst idea ever, she's Brainwave Jr.'s mother!
That's funny! I just read an issue of Infinity Inc. contained in my CoIE Companion Vol.2 that pictures his mom and dad, but she's not shown in costume or referenced to have an alter-ego. That would have been quite serendipitous!
She later turned up alive as a member of "Old Justice" in the Young Justice series, and had a daughter or granddaughter or something that showed up in Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory series!
It was that appearance in Old Justice which first introduced me to Merry! And, as she's pretty much the only DC Golden Ager NOT in the JSA or All-Star Squad, I just guessed her randomly!
Alas, her descendant died in Morrison's series, right? Man...
Which Justice Leaguer's given name caused him embarrassment when he tried to flirt with an Australian woman?
It was that appearance in Old Justice which first introduced me to Merry! And, as she's pretty much the only DC Golden Ager NOT in the JSA or All-Star Squad, I just guessed her randomly!
Alas, her descendant died in Morrison's series, right? Man...
There was a slew of female characters introduced into male strips circa 1947-48. The most successful was Black Canary, introduced in Johnny Thunder before pushing him out of both his own strip and the JSA.
Merry is kind of cool as an early example of the feisty teen girl superhero, which is pretty common these days, but apparently didn't take off in the late 40s. She definitely deserves better treatment than she's gotten, though.
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Which Justice Leaguer's given name caused him embarrassment when he tried to flirt with an Australian woman?
Lardy has it! Wally-as-Flash introduced himself as Wally, and the Australians laughed caused Wally means "idiot, clown, or clumsy person" in Australian slang
It was a total guess! I looked at a list of JLI members (because I figured it had to be from that era), and his name looked like "wallaby" which I seem to recall from dialogue involving Aussies--possibly Outback Steakhouse commercials? Otherwise, I've never heard of "wally" as a slang term!
Yeah guys being named "Bruce" has been thrown off at a few times. Can't say that it has any meaning. "Don't be a Wally" or "He's a bit of a Wally" were terms to describe someone being a bit of a fool. The other one I was thinking of was Ralph. When someone has had a bit too much to drink and ends up "worshipping at the ceramic throne" (i.e. throwing up in the toilet, loo, dunny) he is said to be meeting Ralph, a bit from the sound I guess.
A lot of slang like these used to be more common but are becoming less so as our culture becomes more internationalised thanks to communication technology today. An example of this was when Virgin Airlines set up an Australian branch they called it "Virgin Blue" because a redhead used to be nicknamed "Blue" and Branson thought that was too hilarious to pass up but it has now been renamed to Virgin Australia probably because too many Australians didn't understand it any more.
A common one I still hear is "being crook" which means feeling sick or ill. A very local slang originating in Melbourne but somewhat more spread now is if something is extremely unlikely to occur it is said to have "two chances, Buckley's or none". Buckley was an early convict in the Melbourne area who escaped by swimming across the entrance to Port Phillip Bay, an extremely dangerous stretch of water. He was presumed to have drowned until he was discovered years later living with a local native tribe.
Kangaroos and wallabies are both members of the same family with the kangaroos being the larger more well known variety of about half a dozen species while there are many more species of wallabies which tend to be smaller and a bit rounder compared to the stretched out kangaroos. There are also pademelons and quokkas which are even smaller. The characteristic they share in common is the large rear feet and only being able to move their rear legs together as one, so they can't walk like other mammals and can only hop/jump on their hind legs or slowly do a kind of slow crawl balancing on their smaller front legs while dragging their back legs forward. This is how they move while grazing. It also means that they can't go backwards. We have the Red Kangaroo (the largest) and the Emu on our Australian coat of arms because neither animal can go backwards, they can only move forwards as I guess our founders hoped our country would. There is also another variety known as tree-kangaroos living mostly in New Guinea and far northern Australia, so named because they spend most of their time living in trees in the rainforests very rarely coming down to the ground.
Thanks for sharing these interesting tidbits, stile. I have a few Australian friends, and they certainly also don't talk like how Australians depicted in media decades ago do. And of course, a look into Australia's very interesting and unique fauna.
LOL that image is so funny when you know the animals themselves. I once met a young man from Korea who wanted to know if the video of a kangaroo boxing was real. At the time I hadn't seen it but I have now seen one with the 'roo wearing boxing gloves against a human (who doesn't fare too well) and can't say that I enjoyed it as I'm sure the 'roo didn't either. Animal cruelty comes to mind.There is however a good Attenborough video of how males do fight each other for dominance and it can be impressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCcLMNcWZOc
Barbara Gordon and Ted Kord were flirting with each other online, not knowing each other's identities. It blossomed into a really cool RL friendships that had Ted join the supporting cast of Birds of Prey for a while. These were the most significant appearances he made between his exit from the Justice League and his death in Countdown.
Wally West's dad? I think in Millennium he turned out to be a Manhunter agent and then in Invasion he sacrificed himself to blow up a ship full of Durlans.
you got it! and I love that story too, as well as the restoration of Ma Hunkel to the supporting cast of the JSA. And her heroic past is alluded to - she packed a punch against those robbers!
Ibby has it! Fury appeared (as Lyta Trevor) in an issue of Wonder Woman before the rest of Infinity, Inc. were introduced.
Brainwave Sr. used the image of Brainwave Jr. in several appearances prior to that, but Jr. himself did not appear until he appeared with the rest of the Infinity,Inc. team.
In Secret Society of Super Villains #1, a member is mentioned in a caption as if he or she was in the scene but was never depicted in the art. This character was never mentioned or depicted again in subsequent issues but was much later confirmed to have been a member. Who was it?
In Secret Society of Super Villains #1, a member is mentioned in a caption as if he or she was in the scene but was never depicted in the art. This character was never mentioned or depicted again in subsequent issues but was much later confirmed to have been a member. Who was it?
NOT: Vandal Savage, Riddler, Star Sapphire or Killer Croc
Hint: Y'all are on the right track, in so far as this is NOT an obscure character.
No on all three. In fact, Grodd was a VERY prominent member of the earliest incarnation! Luthor was their leader for all of one issue. Joker was uninvolved.
Darkseid was actually their original boss/puppet master, so definitely not someone omitted.
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
Chronos?
Would've been interesting, but no, not until IC/Villains United.
Originally Posted by neopavlik
The Brain ?
No, but would have been intriguing to see a DP foe among them at that time. Brain and other members of the Brotherhood of Evil were part of the larger Society circa Villains United.
Originally Posted by stile86
Captain Cold?
Actually, a VERY prominent original SSoSV member, along with stalwarts like Grodd, et al.
Originally Posted by neopavlik
Black Adam ?
Was later among the Society's Council circa Villains United.
[quote=Paladin]In Secret Society of Super Villains #1, a member is mentioned in a caption as if he or she was in the scene but was never depicted in the art. This character was never mentioned or depicted again in subsequent issues but was much later confirmed to have been a member. Who was it?
NOT: Vandal Savage, Riddler, Star Sapphire, Killer Croc, Grodd, Joker, Lex Luthor, Darkseid, Chronos, Brain, Captain Cold or Black Atom
Hint: This is NOT an obscure character.
(Another hint to come if the correct guess is not made before the next update!)
That's the one! She was clearly mentioned in an early scene in issue 1 that also listed and depicted everyone else shown in the art.. I scoured every page of the issue to see where she was, but no dice. And she never appeared during the rest of the 15 or so issue run of SSoSV. I don't know if it was a writer or artist or letterer or editor goof or what!
I was pleased to see the Wikipedia article mentioned the caption and omission. It also says that JLA 119 (2005) mentioned that she had been a member. But she's never been depicted as such in any story.
When the X-Men were based in Australia, there was an Aborigine teleporter named Gateway, who did not speak at all for a good long while. When he finally did speak, who was the first person he was seen speaking to?
Paladin has it - it was Jubilee! While she was still sneaking around the X-Men's HQ in hiding, she stared at the silent aborigine, and when he said "Hi!" to her, she was shocked into setting off some of her fireworks and ran away.
No to all of these. Ibby is clearly reacting to "Rextab" being an anagram to "Baxter" as a reference to the Baxter Building, and that was deliberate in the source material.
I was talking to someone about this series earlier today. First time it's came up in years. TMNT?
That's the one!
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, in issue 2, featured the Rextab Building. It was a dead ringer for the Baxter Building and was, I believe, destroyed in the same issue.
Early TMNT featured thinly-veiled marvel references. The TMNT name itself parodies some of the tropes that Marvel was cashing in on, and it riffed somewhat on Frank Miller's Daredevil run. The most obvious and long-lasting riff was naming the rival ninja clan the "Foot", mirroring DD's "Hand".
There were probably more Marvel references, riffs and parodies that I've forgotten in those early Eastman/Laird issues. I can attest to their quality being superior to the kids' franchise it became.
I remember reading somewhere that the Turtles' origin was directly tied into Daredevil's.
Absolutely true. In the very first issue of TMNT we learn that a truck almost knocked down a blind man who was saved at the last moment by a young man. For his troubles the unnamed young man was struck across the eyes by a canister of radioactive material from the truck. The canister then bounced off to splatter over 4 pet turtles and voila we have the origin of Daredevil and TMNT.
I remember reading somewhere that the Turtles' origin was directly tied into Daredevil's.
Absolutely true. In the very first issue of TMNT we learn that a truck almost knocked down a blind man who was saved at the last moment by a young man. For his troubles the unnamed young man was struck across the eyes by a canister of radioactive material from the truck. The canister then bounced off to splatter over 4 pet turtles and voila we have the origin of Daredevil and TMNT.
I'd forgotten about that, but it was totally depicted that way! Gotta re-read that old original TMNT trade soon!
I read the opening issues last year, and it stands up really well. Suddenly everyone was releasing things like the Octogenarian Cyborg Dentist Ocelots . My introduction to it was through the RPG, which was also a really good system.
TMNT started in 1984. The following year what creature was part of the title:-
It IS another Taz answer! making Kimiyo very relevant, as the two joined together briefly during the Breakdowns arc, before both re-joining again later when the JLE reformed (Kimiyo as a founder, Taz when the team expanded to become the jLI)
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?
Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?
Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?
Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.
1. Abomination 2. 3. Leader 4.
Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?
Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.
1. Abomination 2. 3. Leader 4.
Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man, Blob, Doctor Doom, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk
Hints:
#2 is or has been a member of the FF #4 is a villain created by PAD for the arc
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?
Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.
1. Abomination 2. 3. Leader 4.
Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man, Blob, Doctor Doom, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk, Ben Grimm/Thing, Human Torch, Piecemeal
Hints:
Look at how I listed the latest incorrects and see if you can infer something.....
#2 is or has been a member of the FF #4 is a villain created by PAD for the arc
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?
Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.
1. Abomination 2. 3. Leader 4.
Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man, Blob, Doctor Doom, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk, Ben Grimm/Thing, Human Torch, Piecemeal, Spider-Man, Doc Samson
Hints:
Look at how I listed the latest incorrects and see if you can infer something.....
#2 is or has been a member of the FF #4 is a villain created by PAD for the arc[/quote]
As for the last one, not having read the run is going to make it difficult to guess. Have to leave it to someone else. Hey Ann your a PAD fan I think. Any ideas?
Sharon Ventura/Ms. Marvel in her "she-thing" form is correct for #2! PAD managed to shoe-horn in another Hulk/Thing fight in this arc with this twist. (Not personally a fan of this era for Sharon.)
About 3 years into his classic Hulk run, Peter David wrote a 4-part arc called "Countdown". In this arc Bruce Banner is poisoned and will die at sunrise when the gray Hulk is forced to transform back into Banner. Each chapter in the arc features a different antagonist on the cover for the Hulk to fight. Who are these four antagonists?
Players may guess as many characters as there are unrevealed spots. Clues will be provided as needed.
Incorrect: General Ross, Bruce Banner, Super-Skrull, Juggernaut, U-Foes, Absorbing Man, Blob, Doctor Doom, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk, Ben Grimm/Thing, Human Torch, Piecemeal, Spider-Man, Doc Samson
Hints:
#4 is a villain created by PAD for the arc
This character share his name with an indie character that debuted in the '90s with a pop art sensibility to him.
Yes! PAD's character shared a name with Michael Allred's signature creation!
The Hulk character was Philip Sterns, the brother of fellow Hulk villain the Leader. Philip was a college classmate of Bruce Banner's who admired him from afar and later tried to duplicate gamma mutation in himself. He developed a split personality in which his alter ego was insane and had super-strength. At the end of Countdown, he was left for dead to succumb to his own poison but was later shown to have survived.
Sticking with the Fantastic Four (Impy first appeared in the early days of the FF) which character was known for taking naps as the FF went on a mission?
Nope. That was Molecule Man whose girlfriend was Volcana, not Impossible Man.
Oh silly me! Of course now I remember who he is. No idea of the answer but thoughts of him always bring to mind a brief scene by Byrne in a Superman comic where the green/purple guy was having a ball playing with his favourite four friends but had to leave to fix a problem in another dimension as Mr Mxyzptlk.
That was it, thoth! You obviously remembered that the scene was in Crisis (not Firestorm's own book, Lance), but it was Psycho-Pirate with his well-established powers, and not Harbinger exhibiting some newly-manifested powers.
I have the 5 issues of Firestorm's first run, and maybe the first 90 issues of Fury of Firestorm. I used to really like those, although I haven't read them in forever.
Ares was in on it, and was the one mock fighting Hercules. But there was another who I appeared to them both, to watch their battle, but with other plans...
When Hercules reached Earth, all the Avengers were his enemies!
Paladin has it! The Enchantress appeared on a cross pantheon exchange trip (Ares tells us that he's in league with her, and knows of her exile. Thanks oh god of exposition.) She uses a drugged drink (tsk tsk) to put Hercules under her thrall, and points him at the Avengers.
Yes! Under the title "The Ring of the Nibelung", Roy Thomas (with Gil Kane on art) and P. Craig Russell adapted Wagner's classic 4 opera cycle. DC published the Thomas/Kane adaptation in 4 Prestige format parts in 1989-90. Dark Horse published Russell's adaptation in 4 miniseries published from 2000-01. Both were eventually collected as hardcovers and/or trades.
I recently acquired both adaptations, a TPB of Russell's and the 4 individual Prestige albums of Thomas/Kane's. I'm currently reading the Russell version and will eventually read the other and see which I like best. I'm definitely a Gil Kane fan, so we'll see....
The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!
Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York - Statue of Liberty. Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man: Hyperion vs Thor: Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Palace of Westminster, London
Incorrect: Paris, Sydney, Tokyo, Mt Rushmore, Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Brazil, Kenya, Antarctica, Las Vegas, Beijing, Moscow, Washington DC
The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!
Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York - Statue of Liberty. Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man: Hyperion vs Thor: Sphinx, Egypt Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Palace of Westminster, London
Incorrect: Paris, Sydney, Tokyo, Mt Rushmore, Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Brazil, Kenya, Antarctica, Las Vegas, Beijing, Moscow, Washington DC, Rome, Barcelona
The last one is more famous as a building/monument than the place where it's situated.
The Avengers are facing off against the Squadron Sinister at four locations. Name each location, to help coordinate the heroes!
Captain America vs Nighthawk: New York - Statue of Liberty. Doctor Spectrum vs Iron Man: Hyperion vs Thor: Sphinx, Egypt Giant Man vs The Whizzer: Palace of Westminster, London
Incorrect: Paris, Sydney, Tokyo, Mt Rushmore, Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Brazil, Kenya, Antarctica, Las Vegas, Beijing, Moscow, Washington DC, Rome, Barcelona, Machu Picchu
The last one is more famous as a building/monument than the place where it's situated.
Your clue about the building/monument being more famous than its location helped me eliminate a lot of other possibilities. I know the Taj Mahal is in India but that's it. Even the Cybermen know it's an important location if you are going to take over the world.
A hero (of sorts) is fighting a villain he doesn't normally fight but who is strangely appropriate when Superman helps the hero by decapitating him. Which hero lost his head to Superman?
No, although I can imagine how he would survive the experience.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Atom?
Squish! No.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Plastic Man?
Stretch! No.
A hero (of sorts) is fighting a villain he doesn't normally fight but who is strangely appropriate when Superman helps the hero by decapitating him. Which hero lost his head to Superman?
Clue: The hero's adversary is a classic Superman villain, who is in many ways a doppelganger of the hero.
Breaking his back wasn't enough? You want to decapitate him too? No.
A hero (of sorts) is fighting a villain he doesn't normally fight but who is strangely appropriate when Superman helps the hero by decapitating him (the hero). Which hero lost his head to Superman?
Clue: The hero's adversary is a classic Superman villain, who is in many ways a doppelganger of the hero. Clue: Versions of both the hero and the villain have appeared on DC TV shows in recent years, but not on the same show.
trying to think of which Superman villains would have a heroic doppelganger...
also thinking of whether the decapitation was "real" or "fake' through illusions or something. hence my guesses re Cyborg, Batman. but from your responses that seems to be the wrong track.
Robotman of the Doom Patrol...and the villain would be Metallo?
Yes! Chaim has it!
Early on in post-Crisis Superman comics, there were mysterious raids on various technology companies with some indications of superhuman strength. It turned out that Metallo was the culprit and had been modifying various robotic parts to increase his abilities. In Doom Patrol vol 2 #10 we learn that some these enhanced parts have accidentally be installed as repairs to Robotman's body and Metallo wants them back. Problem is that thanks to Metallo's modifications he can control the parts remotely, taking over Cliff's body and making him fight his teammates. In Superman vol 2 #20 Superman joins in the fight and Cliff encourages him to take the only way of stopping him, to literally rip Cliff's head from his body so Superman can deal with Robotman's errant body without endangering Cliff.
I don't remember that at all, probably because I haven't read it for quite a while and at the time I was unfamiliar with the character. Let's try ... Geoforce?
this might help. Kole finds Black Adam punching (the answer) and Dove. Kole encases Black Adam in crystal... and (the answer) tries to punch and shatter Black Adam, though Dove stops (the answer).
Nope. It was not someone that Dove really had much of a connection to. One of the fun things about these crossovers, is getting interactions and scenes between characters whom otherwise would not be fighting alongside each other a lot
Not Peacemaker, though I can see him doing that too. Peacemaker had another scene later on with the E-2 Green Arrow dying, and Halo and Starman saving Peacemaker from a Shadow Demon!
Thanks. I can vaguely remember the scene. Your clues helped point in the right direction Thoth.
Batman is saddened and angered by the death of a famous musician. He investigates what he suspects is foul play and discovers a hunt for hidden treasure but in the end the treasure is lost. How is a mardi gras to blame?
Thanks. I can vaguely remember the scene. Your clues helped point in the right direction Thoth.
Batman is saddened and angered by the death of a famous musician. He investigates what he suspects is foul play and discovers a hunt for hidden treasure but in the end the treasure is lost. How is a mardi gras to blame?
(I will add that is THE Mardi Gras in New Orleans and involves another subject that the city is famous for.)
okay some clues are in order. Just to check that I was remembering right, I Iooked up the wikipedia entry for New Orleans and found what I was thinking of mentioned prominently. Go have a look and we can work from there.
Chaim is closest, correctly guessing that a brass instrument is the connection. The murdered man was indeed a jazz musician and his instrument is important.
I feel that this is kissing my memories. Maybe a Conway/late '70s/early '80s story? Or perhaps someone else from the same time frame like Wein or O'Neil....
The musician was killed by a poisoned blow dart launched from a jazz instrument, but returned from the dead to play a couple of nights at a club following a voodoo ceremony. His battle with Bats occurred atop a streetcar, before Bats escaped a sudden flood aboard a steamboat.
The musician was killed by a poisoned blow dart launched from a jazz instrument, but returned from the dead to play a couple of nights at a club following a voodoo ceremony. His battle with Bats occurred atop a streetcar, before Bats escaped a sudden flood aboard a steamboat.
Not in that issue. It's the *following* issue where the steamboat runs aground and they end up surviving on their gumbo rations against the alligators in the swamp.
The musician was killed by a poisoned blow dart launched from a jazz instrument, but returned from the dead to play a couple of nights at a club following a voodoo ceremony. His battle with Bats occurred atop a streetcar, before Bats escaped a sudden flood aboard a steamboat.
Yes! Absolutely. How did you guess? Let me just check the details in the comic ... oh ... wait ... sorry Thoth I must have been remembering a fever dream brought on by lead-poisoning.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
were the directions to the treasure hidden in the instrument?
Well done Ibby! Exactly correct. The musician was killed to steal his trumpet which apparently had a map engraved in it to a lost gold mine. The villain manages to get the trumpet but while running away from Batman is caught up in the Mardi Gras. The trumpet is dropped, stomped over by hundreds of feet, and the map - if it ever existed - is lost.
Originally Posted by Paladin
I feel that this is kissing my memories. Maybe a Conway/late '70s/early '80s story? Or perhaps someone else from the same time frame like Wein or O'Neil....
Right on track. According to the DC wiki:
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This story was the first Batman story written by Dennis O'Neil. It was written as an assignment for Julius Schwartz in the late 60s, but the style did not fit the camp style of that decade. For this reason it was delayed until this publication date.
It was published in Batman #224 in mid-1970. I read it years ago in a black-and-white reprint and it is one of the Batman stories that stuck in my head. I rather liked the "detective Batman" stories with just a touch of the creepy or macabre which ran around then. They made him a very interesting somewhat mysterious and yet still somewhat believable figure.
still no two correct. one of the two correct answers has never been guessed yet.
more hints:
1) This character was not a fully active Leaguer at the time of the story (though was one before, and would soon be one again) 2) Maxima's anger was also mixed with jealousy over Superman
which two female Justice Leaguers infuriated Maxima so much, that she succumbed to Eclipso?
Fire and Ice: 1 correct Fire and Dr. Light: 0 correct Power Girl and Crimson Fox: 0 correct Fire and Huntress: 0 Correct Ice and Mary Marvel: 1 correct
In 1983 and 1984, DC published 2 stories that were essentially alternate takes on a character's return from the situation they were last seen in. The second was labeled an "Imaginary story" on the splash page in deference to the prior published story. Both stories were drawn by the same artist. What character's return did both stories depict?
In 1983 and 1984, DC published 2 stories that were essentially alternate takes on a character's return from the situation they were last seen in. The second was labeled an "Imaginary story" on the splash page in deference to the prior published story. Both stories were drawn by the same artist. What character's return did both stories depict?
In 1983 and 1984, DC published 2 stories that were essentially alternate takes on a character's return from the situation they were last seen in. The second was labeled an "Imaginary story" on the splash page in deference to the prior published story. Both stories were drawn by the same artist. What character's return did both stories depict?
In 1983 and 1984, DC published 2 stories that were essentially alternate takes on a character's return from the situation they were last seen in. The second was labeled an "Imaginary story" on the splash page in deference to the prior published story. Both stories were drawn by the same artist. What character's return did both stories depict?
Not: Martian Manhunter, Atom (Ray Palmer), Alfred Pennyworth, Wonder Woman or Elongated Man
Hint: When last seen, just over a year prior to the 1983 return, this character had been trapped, seemingly forever.
Brainiac got his robotic revamp (complete with skull ship) in Action Comics 544, the same issue that debuted Luthor in his new warsuit. Last we had seen, he was trapped in the core of an artificial planet called the Planet-Eater. His revamp picks up from that point and sets up his new status quo. The next year, Superman Special #2 comes with the "imaginary story" disclaimer. This story picks up from Brainiac escaping being trapped, but he retains his former appearance. I suspect the latter story may have been produced first but was scrapped when the idea to revamp him came up. It just makes sense.
Robin is forced to participate in a classic western high-noon pistol showdown against the (modern, villainous) Trigger Twins. Given that Robin would not shoot anyone with a gun, what did he "draw" to defeat them?
None of those. Cape is close, though what he used (IIRC) was a serape/poncho (in the classic Eastwood fashion) rather than his costume cape. But what I mean by "draw" is what did he use as his weapon to win the duel - he didn't literally draw it. But it was hidden behind his serape, which he did draw aside at the time.
No. It's getting obvious that this is one story that no one here remembers, so if I don't get a correct answer by tonight, I'll just give in. But I remember that scene as being pretty brilliant.
BTW, that last part of my statement works as a hint...though not originally intended as such.
At high noon, Robin (and two associates) threw open their serapes, to reveal mirrors, which reflected the blinding sun into the Trigger Twins' eyes...enabling the heroes to non-lethally defeat the villainous gunslingers.
One of the more fun "Pulp Fiction" Annuals, the first set of themed annuals in a while that the Legion series did not participate in...though it could have been very entertaining if they had. Way, way, way better possibilities than the idiotic "Legends of the Dead Earth" from the year prior.
ah, I must have confused this for another story. I remember one story where Robin pretended he had a gun under his cape, only for it to be his finger or something.
A writer or artist made a mistake and chose the wrong Scarecrow? (Just kidding I have a grand total of 2 Iron Man solo comics out of my 10,000 comics or so and both feature Doctor Doom. I'm sure I have read any OHOTMU entry this guy may have had, but can't remember more than that there were at least two scarecrows.)
What inspired the Scarecrow to become one of Iron Man's enemies?
He really really liked gadgets and was envious of Iron Man's genius - This Scarecrow was not a gadgeteer nor was he envious of Iron Man.~ A writer or artist made a mistake and chose the wrong Scarecrow - Not a writing/art error He saw him on the tele - He didn't see Iron Man on the tele. But the answer is along that run of the mill, reaction to something Iron Man did.
Not Iron Man's expressionless armor, made Scarecrow want to challenge himself/herself to cause fear - Also this Scarecrow is not fear based. One of Tony Stark's companies caused his to go bankrupt - Also this villain has no business dealings with Stark
What inspired the Scarecrow to become one of Iron Man's enemies?
Did Iron Man, i dunno, destroy some farmland, which made Scarecrow angry because he was a farmer? - Scarecrow was working in the city when he decided to adopt that identity. He has no real farm connections Did Scarecrow stand for anti-industrialism, since ol' Shellhead symbolizes industrialism? - The Scarecrow isn't terribly opposed to anything Iron Man stands for.
Iron Man was doing something routine for him, when he encountered Scarecrow.
Not:- Iron Man's expressionless armor, made Scarecrow want to challenge himself/herself to cause fear - Also this Scarecrow is not fear based. One of Tony Stark's companies caused his to go bankrupt - Also this villain has no business dealings with Stark He really really liked gadgets and was envious of Iron Man's genius - This Scarecrow was not a gadgeteer nor was he envious of Iron Man.~ A writer or artist made a mistake and chose the wrong Scarecrow - Not a writing/art error He saw him on the tele - He didn't see Iron Man on the tele. But the answer is along that run of the mill, reaction to something Iron Man did.
What inspired the Scarecrow to become one of Iron Man's enemies?
Originally Posted by Ibby
Scarecrow was some sort of communist and saw Iron Man as a defender of capitalism??? - Scarecrow was a contortionist act when he encountered Iron man. I think he did end the issue in Cuba, but it's not related to the answer. .
Originally Posted by stile
(Dropping out because I accidentally read the answer and cheated.)
Don't let that stop you, if this one is going on a bit.
Not:- Iron Man's expressionless armor, made Scarecrow want to challenge himself/herself to cause fear - Also this Scarecrow is not fear based. One of Tony Stark's companies caused his to go bankrupt - Also this villain has no business dealings with Stark He really really liked gadgets and was envious of Iron Man's genius - This Scarecrow was not a gadgeteer nor was he envious of Iron Man.~ A writer or artist made a mistake and chose the wrong Scarecrow - Not a writing/art error He saw him on the tele - He didn't see Iron Man on the tele. But the answer is along that run of the mill, reaction to something Iron Man did. Did Iron Man, i dunno, destroy some farmland, which made Scarecrow angry because he was a farmer? - Scarecrow was working in the city when he decided to adopt that identity. He has no real farm connections Did Scarecrow stand for anti-industrialism, since ol' Shellhead symbolizes industrialism? - The Scarecrow isn't terribly opposed to anything Iron Man stands for. Iron Man was doing something routine for him, when he encountered Scarecrow.
It's been a week so I guess I will pop in the answer.
Soon-to-become Scarecrow saw Iron Man chasing a villain (thief?) and used his contortionist abilities to stop the thief, allowing Iron Man to catch him. This inspired him to use his abilities for the force of ... uh ... himself and become the Scarecrow.
Bit of a twist on the idea of being inspired to heroics by helping a hero in action.
Jimmy Olsen has quite a few interesting moments with Supergirl in the Silver Age, including an "imaginary" story where they get married before he even knows Supergirl exists, but what was the first situation on which they kissed?
That would certainly fit with the period but no. In case it prompts any memories, this happens in the dark so Jimmy can't actually see who he is kissing.
Mistaken identity? Like maybe, he thought he was kissing Lucy or someone else, but it was dark?
No. The darkness was to hide Supergirl's identity from Jimmy becuase her existence had not yet been revealed, but Jimmy thought it was to hide Jimmy from whoever the girl was. (That's another clue by the way.)
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
was mind control involved?
No mind control. Supergirl was a willing participant and hoped that her kiss would help Jimmy. (And another clue)
Did Jimmy turn into a frog or something? and the kiss was meant to turn him back into a human?
That'll do. Jimmy drank an ancient mystic potion that turned him in to a wolf-man at night and could only be cured by the "willing kiss of a beautiful maiden". He made it through a few nights without Lucy or anyone else discovering his secret thanks to a costume party and a horror movie set but was about to give up when Superman brought "Miss X" to kiss him. Jimmy thought they kissed in the dark so Miss X wouldn't see his "hideous" face but it was actually to keep Jimmy from seeing her as Supergirl since she was still Superman's secret weapon at this stage. In a final panel Jimmy gives Lucy a kiss but only on the cheek as he is thinking "Will I ever meet and kiss Miss X again? Sigh!". (Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen v1 #044)
The writers thought it was such a good plot that they revisited it a few issues later. This time Miss X's kiss (Supergirl is shown thinking "Jimmy's nice! I'm glad I can help him!") didn't work and neither did kisses from Lois, Lucy, Lana and even Lori the mermaid. This was because his transformation was thanks to Mr Mxyzptlk who had fallen for Lucy and wanted Jimmy out of the picture. Jimmy was cured by a kiss from a small woman who turned out to be Miss Gzptlsnz, the girlfriend of Mr Mxyzptlk from the 5th Dimension. She used her magic to cure Jimmy, tricked Mxy into saying his name backwards, and happily returned to the 5th Dimension promising to nag her two-timing boyfriend for the next 90 days. A final panel shows Jimmy asking Lucy for a kiss but she declares he has had enough kisses over the last few days to last months. (Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen v1 #052)
You got it! It was as Ice. Sue faked her own kidnapping... and a bunch of Leaguers showed up to help (they were all in on the surprise). Sue masqueraded as Ice. What tipped Ralph off was that Sue-Ice never spoke; plus she used an oil can to derail a giant toy train instead of using her ice powers.
Certainly how some would do it but no that wasn't shocking enough.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Does she put herself in danger?
That's the one. Since they were conveniently at the top of tall building she purposely tripped and fell screaming over the edge. That was enough to wake up Superman who caught her and they flew back to the roof to find that the three former loves - Lyla Lerrol, Lori Lemaris and Luma Lynn - were actually three Chameleon "girls" from Durla who were using some super-hallucinogen on Superman in an attempt to drive him insane. Why? Apparently they were insane themselves and the Durlan police were there from the 30th Century. This was in 1969 Superman's Girl-Friend Lois Lane #97, the late Silver Age when the stories were becoming a bit more serious but things like Durlan lore and history had not yet been developed.
I feel dumb. I meant the merman that supergirl met and occasionally dreamed about. I can?t remember his name. But that doesn?t work either. I remember the scene but can?t visualize who Lori saved. Maybe the female member of the sea devils. I think that is the group Dane for ranch led.
Who were the last 4 new recruits to the Avengers before the team debuted its West Coast branch?
You may guess as many characters as have not been revealed to that point. The person to fill in the last slot(s) wins the right to ask the next trivia question!
Since Monica was mentioned: The Wrecker and his Wrecking Crew once busted up New Orleans to capture her...purely by mistake. Who did the employer of the Wrecking Crew REALLY want, and who was that employer?
It was indeed Carol Danvers the employer sent them after, he told them "Ms. Marvel" and they interpreted it as "Captain Marvel, female version." (Carol was going by "Warbird" at that time.)
The employer was not Yon-Rogg, but a different old foe of Carol's. Obscure person, so if by tonight no one remembers the story that clearly, I'll just give it to Paladin.
What character's plans were ruined when the famous barfight between Colossus and the Juggernaut happened?
Not: Vulture, Mastermind, Nimrod, Mister Sinister, Black Tom Cassidy, Magneto, Scourge or Apocalypse.
Hint #1: Definitely nefarious intentions and for Juggernaut by the character in question. Hint #2: This character made their prior debut in another Claremont-written book.
What character's plans were ruined when the famous barfight between Colossus and the Juggernaut happened?
Not: Vulture, Mastermind, Nimrod, Mister Sinister, Black Tom Cassidy, Magneto, Scourge, Apocalypse, Dr. Doom, Sabertooth or Madrox.
Hint #1: Definitely nefarious intentions and for Juggernaut by the character in question. Hint #2: This character made their prior debut in another Claremont-written book. Hint #3: The character went after Rachel Summers the next issue.
Yes, it is she! (MY next clue was gonna be, "Y'all got the wrong gender!" if the trend had continued! )
Selene debuted not long before in the New Mutants' "Nova Roma" storyline that also introduced Magma. Soon after her appearances in Uncanny X-Men 184-5 (the former featured the Juggernaut/Colossus barfight), she would be inducted into the Hellfire Club as the successor to Jean Grey as its Black Queen.
Selene is a psychic vampire and was trying to seduce Juggernaut and drain his life away when she could get him in private. The brawl (instigated by Wolverine) foiled her plan, unbeknownst to any of the other mutants, so she settled for some other unlucky sap from the bar and left him as little more than ashes. The next issue, she sensed Rachel, who had just made her present-day reappearance in comics after the classic "Days of Future Past" story.The X-Men helped save her from Selene's deadly pursuit.
Next question's yours, Ibby! Will it involve the Justice League again?
I was going to say Forge but then remembered he made the weapon but didn't fire it. Was it that persistent anti-everybody Henry Gyrich? I know the second part anyway, they were firing at Rogue. I really enjoyed that period of the X-Men. Good stories.
Who shot Storm with a weapon that seemingly permanently took her powers? And who was the intended target?
Originally Posted by stile86
I was going to say Forge but then remembered he made the weapon but didn't fire it. Was it that persistent anti-everybody Henry Gyrich? I know the second part anyway, they were firing at Rogue. I really enjoyed that period of the X-Men. Good stories.
Yes and yes. Rogue was wrongly accused of killing a SHIELD agent. Storm heroically got between the blast and Rogue.
That period of the X-Men was when I started reading the book and became a fan!
Great guess but no. This is one of those trivia questions that either need you to have read the issue or guess in a more general way. You might have better luck if you stop thinking about other tales in continuity and think just of my initial description. The person in question was an old family friend of Danielle but in more recent years they argued whenever they were together.
No not their identity. Sorry I didn't think this would be so obscure. Apparently this character only appeared in one issue despite being protrayed as a long term acquaintance. One last hint for guesses. Danielle had known this male person quite well as she lived with his family after her parents were apparently killed. In spite of this (or perhaps because of it) Danielle did not find their "friendship" positive but rather antagonistic. It is in this context that she is shocked by the image she draws from his mind.
Danielle is visiting her parents and her hometown not long after adopting/being adopted by the Asgardian winged horse Brightwind and henc ebecoming a valkyrie. In town she bumps into Pat Roberts who is quite verbally abusive and insulting to her. While they are arguing she gets a vision of Death hanging over Pat and runs off. Pat drives off upset as well but crashes his car due to a blizzard. Danielle picks up his static filled radio call for help and takes Brightwind to help him. She pulls him from the wreck but he is badly injured and they take shelter in a cave. She is then seemingly attacked by Pat but realises it is a vision pulled from his mind which is immediately followed by a vision of the two of them getting married. She is shocked by the two visions and asks Pat about them. Pat, who also saw the visions, is also shocked but admits that he can't understand his own feelings, being torn between the two extremes. Turns out he has been harbouring anger towards her for abandoning his family when she left to join Xavier. Then another vision appears but this time it is Death again come to claim Pat. Danielle fights off Death and has a reconciliation with Pat except that turns out to be a vision as well since Pat is now unconscious. Hours later they are at the hospital where Danielle talks to an old Native American who again turns out to be Death. Death compliments her on her courage and determination but points out that sometimes Death is a release. Pat was a diabetic who lost his inulin supply in the crash and is now in a coma from which he will never awake. Danielle submits to Death and lets Pat go. The issue finishes with her explaining it all to her parents and being comforted by them. I found it a very thoughtful story years ago and it stuck in my mind so I thought it was more well known.
Let's try something else.
Which character is tricked/abducted to another dimension during a fight with the Hellfire Club?
Not Illyana. While she was tricked/abducted to another dimension this happened while the X-Men were just doing their normal training. The incident I am thinking of happened a few years later our time.
A couple more clues. The character in question was the cause of the fight between the X-Men and the Hellfire Club. Oh and Nimrod was there as well.
Rachel has decided that vampiric Selene, Black Queen of the Hellfire Club, needs to be killed but Wolverine is determined to stop her which he does by stabbing her through the heart. Rachel manages to keep herself alive through her psychic powers and drags herself off. Wolverine, barely alive himself thanks to Rachel, is joined by the rest of the X-men who go looking for Rachel. Meanwhile the Hellfire Club also goes out looking for her for less benign reasons. The two forces meet and fight when they are interrupted by Nimrod, the super-sentinel from Rachel's alternate future, who attempts to eliminate them all. The teams join forces and manage to at least temporarily disable Nimrod at great cost to themselves. Meanwhile Rachel has attempted to remove herself from the vicinity since ahe feels she is the cause of the fight. In her dazed and injured state she is met by a woman who helps and guides her on a strange dancing path, but it turns out that the woman is Spiral, sometime member of the government's Freedom Force and later to be revealed as agent of Mojo, whose dimension she has now tricked Rachel into joining as we would later find out in the Excalibur one-shot.
(One day I will learn to make shorter summaries but since this whole thing was spread over three issues I might be forgiven in this case.)
I'm sure there was more nuance in the comic, but why did Wolverine want Rachel NOT to kill Selene?
In this portrayal Logan was holding up the ethics of being an X-Man and a hero. He would and had killed others in a fight but he objected to Rachel hunting down and using her Phoenix powers to kill Selene as murder. He debated it with her but Rachel herself said the only way to stop her was to kill her. He seems to see it as the only way to save her from herself. At least these are the sort of arguments he uses to justify his actions to the other X-Men, many of whom are not quiet in their disagreement. Perhaps at the back of his mind he has already seen one person go down a dark path from using the Phoenix powers unwisely and does not want to see another do the same.
Sometimes Logan is portrayed as an almost unthinking killing machine closer to say the Punisher in outlook but Claremont usually wrote him with a much stronger moral core, often making him one of the centre's of the X-Men, not because of his fighting skill but because of that morality.
Alrighty.... originally, the Invisible Girl only had the power of invisibility. How did the force field powers emerge? And against what foe did she first use them?
I have no idea but I am looking forward to the answer! I have always wondered about this ever since the Byrne story where Kristoff is brainwashed to think he is Doctor Doom and tries to kill the Fantastic Four in a similar way to the original DD had by sending the building in to space, only to fail because Sue now had her force field powers which she didn't originally.
I have no idea but I am looking forward to the answer! I have always wondered about this ever since the Byrne story where Kristoff is brainwashed to think he is Doctor Doom and tries to kill the Fantastic Four in a similar way to the original DD had by sending the building in to space, only to fail because Sue now had her force field powers which she didn't originally.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Developed during her stint as Malice, and against ... um.. the guy holding a tablet with emotions listed on it... the Hatemonger?
I'm thnking the answer is a lot earlier than this, but memory cell hasn't got up yet.
That narrows down Sue's powers expanding to somewhere between FF # 6 (Doom hijacks the Baxter Building) and FF # 280 (Sue becomes Malice)!
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
did her powers emerge under pressure? like, to save her life against something?
No, they didn't emerge in a life-threatening situation. If you think about how a person in the FF's dynamic might explore their powers, this part is fairly easy.
I'm pretty sure that the first foe she used it against was the Mole Man.
Yes! It was him. In fact, it's ol' Moley's second-ever appearance in FF 22.
The issue opens with Sue sitting in one of Reed's contraptions as he tests his theory that her invisibility is actually a kind of energy manipulation that could have other uses. Early in the issue, she tests the new powers and some limits are defined, such as her not being able to be invisible while creating a force shield. She later uses the power to get them all out of one of Mole Man's traps.
As I conclude my reading of FF Omnibus Vol. 1, which happens to be the first time I've read most of these stories, I had been wondering when these powers would ever emerge. I had no firsthand knowledge but hoped it would be some time during the Lee/Kirby run. I didn't have to wait too long. Even after this upgrade, Sue was too often portrayed as the damsel in distress in these issues, but I like that this gave her more chances to be more than a bystander.
An issue of Secret Origins featuring the origin stories of members of the Flash's Rogues Gallery used a framing sequence in which one of the Flash's enemies had amnesia and needed help to remember his or her true identity. Who did that amnesiac turn out to be?
In an issue of Secret Origins that focused on origins of members of the Flash's Rogues Gallery, the framing device was that someone with amnesia was trying to figure out his or her identity. This person turned out to be which Flash enemy?
In an issue of Secret Origins that focused on origins of members of the Flash's Rogues Gallery, the framing device was that someone with amnesia was trying to figure out his or her identity. This person turned out to be which Flash enemy?
Not:
Captain Cold Heat Wave Mirror Master Trickster (James Jesse) Rainbow Raider Abra Kadabra Golden Glider Reverse Flash Pied Piper Vandal Savage The Top Weather Wizard Captain Boomerang The Turtle The Shade Doctor Alchemy
Gorilla Grodd is the correct answer! I'm not sure if the cause of his amnesia in this issue was ever revealed, but somehow his powerful mind transformed him into the form of a bald human being (a human form that I believe he had used in a number of prior stories), which is why it was not (necessarily) obvious to readers (or to Paul Gambi, whose tailor shop he stumbled into, and who narrated to him the origins of a half-dozen Rogues) which of the Flash's enemies he was. Upon regaining his memory, he transformed back into a gorilla.
the amnesia bit had me thinking it would be a human, but we were scraping the bottom of the barrel so I went for the most prominent Flash enemy not yet guessed, and what do you know...
Are you sure that Ayla isn't the answer for this one? Really? Even if it isn't, *shouldn't* it be? In fact, since it's so fitting, we could all just pretend it is. We could *shape* reality around what's best. Then I could just be decalred winner and get the next question.....
No?
Bah!
Um.... Power Girl (c'mon Pov channelling powers. You can do it!)
Are you sure that Ayla isn't the answer for this one? Really? Even if it isn't, *shouldn't* it be? In fact, since it's so fitting, we could all just pretend it is. We could *shape* reality around what's best. Then I could just be decalred winner and get the next question.....
No?
Bah!
Um.... Power Girl (c'mon Pov channelling powers. You can do it!)
It would be fitting, but alas this song didn't survive into the 30th century!
Nope and nope but Lightning is very close - you're thinking of the correct team!
Who sang Defying Gravity to her teammates?
- young, before 30s - DC character - legacy character - was part of a big team! - was on the same team as Lightning
Not
Dazzler Light Lass Power Girl Black Canary Zatanna Kitty Pryde Donna Troy Carol Danvers Black Alice Doctor Light Fire Raven Phantom Lady Firebrand Lightning
you got it, it was Cyclone! Maxine Hunkel. She had a thing for musicals, and intentionally modeled her costume after a witch's. She even dressed her pet monkey up as a flying monkey. I'm pretty sure she had a broom in some scenes too.
Rats. I thought I had it there. The one I'm trying to remember the name of was possibly an Egyptian. My memory cell tells me he was part of an XMan plot involving Storm at some point. I think by that stage only Claremont could follow the plot. Something Farouk, but he might have had a proper villain name?
Rats. I thought I had it there. The one I'm trying to remember the name of was possibly an Egyptian. My memory cell tells me he was part of an XMan plot involving Storm at some point. I think by that stage only Claremont could follow the plot. Something Farouk, but he might have had a proper villain name?
Originally Posted by stile86
Think Thoth has it. Commonly referred to as the Shadow King?
This is an awesome, well-informed guess, but it is incorrect. Farouk/Shadow King took possession of Xian Coy Manh's (Karma) body at the end of New Mutants #6, right before the Silver Samarai triggered an explosion of the compound he and the Viper had been using with the intention of killing the New Mutants. Sam, Rahne, Dani and Bobby survived but feared Xian dead, but no body was found. As readers, we were privy to a threatening psychic contact she had with a mysterious entity, but he was only identified as Farouk around 2 years later when Xian finally reappeared and was shown to be under his possession. Farouk himself was a pretty deep dive, returning from a flashback confrontation shown in Uncanny X-Men #117 with a younger Xavier that supposedly left Farouk dead and showed Xavier the necessity of training mutants to confront evil ones.
But, again, it was NOT Farouk who manipulated Dani's powers in some of the NM's earliest adventures!
YES! Some of you may recall the Brood saga, which which ran thru most of the 160s in Uncanny X-Men. Clearly inspired to some degree by Alien, it pitted the X-Men against an alien race that planted eggs inside other beings . When hatched the host would die and become a Brood. The X-Men were particularly appealing as hosts because their hatchlings would inherit their mutant powers. The Brood kidnapped the X-Men and impregnated them with their eggs. The X-Men were able to avoid their fate, or we wouldn't still be talking about these classic Claremont-era characters in the present tense, right?
Meanwhile, Charles Xavier was left on Earth but was also impregnated, unbeknownst to him or anyone else. Inside of him, the incubating Brood was able to manipulate Charles, using his own psychic powers. The Brood manipulated Charles into forming the New Mutants in order to set up more powered hosts to begin their conquest of Earth. The Brood realized that Dani was somehow subconsciously aware of her and used Charles' powers to manipulate Dani's powers to first alienate her from her friends and then to confuse them all when they all realized something else was going on. By the end of New Mutants #3, they thought their foe vanquished, as they didn't suspect it was inside Xavier. Then, the X-Men returned from space in Uncanny #167 and, having been clued in on what happened to Charles, they confronted the now-hatched Brood and managed to save Charles by cloning him a new body because his mind was still alive.
So that's how Xavier was "kinda" right, but he wasn't the foe behind it all.
I can't wait to see what question Ann comes up with! I can't remember her ever participating in this thread when I've been doing so!!!
Well done Ann! And thanls for all the background info Paladin. I must have read these at some point, but I"ve no memory of it. Clearly being suppressed by my Brood implant.
Staying with the New Mutants, my favorite issue of that series, Annual 2 (pencils & inks by Alan Davis) guest starred Captain Britain and featured his sister Psylocke's first appearance in an American comic. One other Marvel UK character made an appearance as well. Who was this character?
...they kept the continuity, with one excetion covering some of the cast.
Hmmm...
The only surviving cast members from Aliens that I can think of who might have gotten "erased" or "reformatted" are Newt and Hicks. I love Aliens, but I haven't watched it for a long time, so I don't remember whether or not Bishop was still partly functional after the Queen thrashed him.
And the answer is in your post Fickles! The series picked up from Aliens focusing on Hicks and Newt. Since they were killed off in Alien 3, Dark Horse had to rename them both (certainly in the collections and new material) to keep the cahracters around.
During Peter David's long run on the Incredible Hulk, his accomplishments included turning a minor villain named Vector into a badass by having him injure the Hulk in a way no one ever had before. What did Vector do?
I had to recuse myself. This sounded very familiar (with my recent PAD/Hulk/Omnibus re-read), but I wasn't sure if Vector was a member of the group I thought he was affiliated with. When I looked him up, the answer was unexpectedly right there in the small descriptive blurb.
For example, I *could* have said that the affected matter that's very close to the Hulk was the removal of those pants that oddly stay on and grow when he transforms.
But, I'm a grown up... well sometimes... a grown up without a guess... it's not the pants is it?
You got it, Thoth. Vector used his powers to flay off several layers of the Hulk's skin (and the Hulk's pants.) And, somehow, Peter David got away with that, and a whole lot more, during his Hulk run.
In a text piece of the trade I'm reading, Byrne says that he really likes The Scarlet Witch. Then proceeds to make her a focal point for a number of stories that don't go well for her.
Don't forget that Byrne wrote Reed and Sue's second child being stillborn. It was 19 years later that other writers retconned this to have Franklin save her to be eventually born as Valeria. Byrne does very well at writing tragedy as well as triumph.
Superman is fighting a strange being calling herself Supergirl who thinks he must be a villainous Kryptonian escaped from the Phantom Zone. Realising she comes from a different Earth/dimension, how does he shock her memories back?
This was Byrne's reuse of the Pocket Universe where that Lex Luthor, with the best of intentions, accidentally released from the Phantom Zone three Kryptonian criminals who decided the best way to subdue a rebellious populous was to kill everyone. Genius. Luthor empowered a handful of heroic survivors such as Hal Jordan and Oliver Queen and created a protoplasmic matrix lifeform using Lana Lang as a template who would become Matrix Supergirl. Matrix is sent to recruit the main Superman but is confused on waking and ends up fighting him (of course). After figuring out where she must come from, part of Superman's way to shock her memories back is to show her Metropolis still standing and introduce her to his Lex Luthor. She then takes him back with her to his world where he helps in the fight against the Kryptonian criminals, eventually defeating him but being the only one left alive. As the only remaining source of justice in that universe he executes them and returns to his universe, taking a slowly reforming Matrix with him. His guilt over his actions lead to him leaving Earth, encountering Warworld and Mongul, and returning with the Eradicator device which will ultimately play a vital role in his later resurrection.
That adventure is still controversial but I did like how the consequences continued to play out for years and years to follow.
Thanks for the background stile. I hadn't been aware of he later implications, having stopped reading it. Back to the comic boxes for a new Q shortly...
in the Justice League Spectacular, which reformed the Justice League after Breakdowns, several heroes come together to stop a hostage crisis. At the end, all but one decide to reform the Justice League America and Justice League Europe.
in the Justice League Spectacular, which reformed the Justice League after Breakdowns, several heroes come together to stop a hostage crisis. At the end, all but one decide to reform the Justice League America and Justice League Europe.
Which one hero opted out?
clue: this hero was a former Leaguer, just decided not to join
Not:
Batman Martian Manhunter Bloodwynd Atom Mister Miracle Blue Beetle
You got it Annfie, it was Red Mason! Metamorpho pitched in to help (I believe it was Ice who called him in Power Girl).
When everyone was talking about reforming, he opted out as he wanted to relax (and I think he referred again to not really Being a team guy)
If I remember right, Batman was the only one among the guesses who appeared - but he didn?t join the fight, he was trying to convince Superman to play wel with others (a bit ironic eh). But Batman did say that he himself wasn?t meant for a team, while Superman could work wel in one?
Elongated Man and Sue Dibny were among the hostages
Superman went to free them but got taken out
Fire, Ice, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle came charging in, with Metamorpho, Power Girl and Guy Gardner also swooping in (called by Ice),
And Ice used Guy Gardner?s ring to contact Hal Jordan,
Who collected Flash (Wally), Crimson Fox and Aquaman. Doctor Light decided to come along,
Rex is very crushable I liked that he developed a small romance with the Crimson Fox, and that she could see past the exterior to the intelligent, charming man inside
I totally agree, Ibby. They were such a cute couple. It's a pity that their subplot got so melodramatic, with one of the D'Aramis sisters getting killed, and all the unpleasant repercussions. Bad writing, plain and simple.
In the "Flex Mentallo" mini-series by Morrison & Quitely, there is a particularly heartbreaking scene where a drug addict meets his end in a filthy subway station men's room after briefly attaining "cosmic awareness."
Thoth was very, very close (and kudos on the "Fact" reference,) because there *was* a Billy Batson analog in "Flex Mentallo." But he was the old janitor at the School for Sidekicks.
Major hint: the drug addict was an analog for a DCU character almost, if not quite, as youthful as the canon version of Billy.
And...Thoth has guessed the right answer! It is Kamandi!
The key signifiers are the addict's long blonde hair (which also allows Frank Quitely the artistic license to make him resemble the infamously debauched Iggy Pop,) and his line, "Sometimes I feel so low, like I'm the last boy on Earth."
Crumbs. Not much of a link there, Mr Morrison. Could just as easily have been:-
"When I shoot this Hyperjuice, I feel like I could run the world. But who is running me?" - The Prez. "It's not just the drugs. I feel like I can see the future racing towards us and that I'm the first boy on this new earth." - Anthro. "Since Alan Moore stopped writing super heroes, I'm just a lost, mixed up, patchwork kid." - Brother Power.
The Fact is... that there will be a new question soon.
Or is it that The Question that will be arriving soon will be a fact...
... faceless heroes are so samey...
Oh hi nurse! Is it time for my Rorschach tests already?
I read the latter part of that run back in the day. The first character I thought of was Tot (short for Aristotle), who was a friend/ally/servant?, but the memories were vague--even the name, which just occurred to me. Then, I thought I remembered Richard Dragon being in the series and guessed him. {I think maybe he also trained Black Canary or the Huntress?)
Anyhow, I'll try to think up a trivia question soon-ish.....
Ah, I'm glad stile mentioned Bloodstone. That was what I had waaay back in my brain cell, but I couldn't recall the name.
I'm buying Edgar Allan Poe's Snifter of Blood or whatever it now is, and Basilisk and it's not a character in those. I read Mountainhead last year, and not in that...
Was Erica the name of the woman/love interest in the first appearance of the Swamp Thing (House of Mystery?) before it was reused and retold a while later?
Ah, I'm glad stile mentioned Bloodstone. That was what I had waaay back in my brain cell, but I couldn't recall the name.
I'm buying Edgar Allan Poe's Snifter of Blood or whatever it now is, and Basilisk and it's not a character in those. I read Mountainhead last year, and not in that...
the Alien relaunch that I might get the trade of?
Originally Posted by stile86
Was Erica the name of the woman/love interest in the first appearance of the Swamp Thing (House of Mystery?) before it was reused and retold a while later?
Nothing to do with any of that. This has nothing to do with any company's intellectual property.
Shows how much attention I'm paying to the current solits. I'm not getting this one.
Since googling is zero fun, I sneakily went off to the pull list thread. Not much there. Then I thought, if only there was a thread where someone talked about all their trades. It turns out there's a gazillion on there. But just above that, some nice poster has posted something that might fit the name. So, since I'm Sneak Lad I'll give others some time to guess...
That would be the comic! This book is wildly popular and buzzworthy, so I thought it would at least be on many of your radars, even if you've not personally read it. Guess I was worng.
Sorry about the delay. Away from home with some internet connection issues.
I haven't read Something is Killing the Children but have heard some buzz suggesting that it is quite liked by some readers.
Dr Doom once attempted to trap the Avengers to use as bait to trap the Fantastic Four, but it doesn't work (Surprise!). Why doesn't it work (the Avengers escape of course but even if they hadn't it would have failed)?
Bonus question: Any idea how he came to trick the Avengers in the first place? (Hint: this is fairly early in their history.)
Wanda hexes his controls, opening the dome he'd used to cover all of his country?
Aha! A man who remembers the adventure! It was actually Quicksilver who found the lever to open the dome, and the Scarlet Witch who hexed Doom's controls preventing him from closing it again.
However that is not why he failed to trap the FF. Even if Cap's Kooky Quartet had not escaped, the FF would not have been trapped.
For a minute, I thought that this would be another of those ones where I'm close, but not close enough ones. But stile rephrasing the question made me remember. The FF wanted to go and help, but we're denied clearance to do so. Probably by the US gov, to avoid an international incident.
Thoth has it exactly. Thus no matter what happened to the Avengers the FF would not have been trapped.
Bonus fact: How Dr Doom tricked the Avengers in the first place was by sending a letter under an alias to Wanda and Pietro that he had information that might reveal who their parents were. (This was before even the very first of the many retconned "facts" of their ancestry.) So all the Avengers supported the twins by trooping off to ... Latveria! Only when they get off the train do they suddenly remember that the ruler of the nation is Dr Doom, whereupon they are promptly arrested. Real smooth work there team.
They never were a team showed a lot of detective prowess. Perhaps they all really knew, but had all just squabbled and weren't talking to each other to share the information. These were the "I could beat a dozen of the likes of you from my rocking chair."issues of Cap's leadership.
I read these only in the last couple of years thanks to a massive discount on masterworks on comixology.
While DC was crunching down on multiple version of characters during the Crisis, the alternate universe versions of the cast of one book came over from their universe, and therefore presumably survived Crisis. Which book was it?
Not Sugar and Spike. Really good guess, as around that time DC were working on a kid's line that didn;t come to anything. I saw Sugar and SPike on one of the images that went with the article.
Originally Posted by stile86
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by stile86
Good question. No idea but good question.
This is where taking a punt and getting tips narrows it down.
Yeah, sorry about that. Just tired and traveling.
How about Blue Devil?
You may have been tired, but you get the right answer! An alternate, space travelling version of Devil's central cast manages to travel into our universe during the Crisis. Now, they might have been wiped by the end of Crisis #10, but so much wasn't. So I reckon there's still a Dan Cassidy, who did not bond with the Devil suit, out there. Always an out for the creators to bring back their version. I know they considered the one that showed up in Starman, and presumably later, as not being the real Blue Devil.
Huh! Well how about that? Total skill - not. Interesting background Thoth, thanks for that. I haven't rad much Blue Devil, just some early stuff in B&W reprints. Whenever he would pop up in the background in big hero group events I would wonder what happened with him. Very interesting and cool trivia question.
In Alan Moore's "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" several Superman related characters are shown. Which member of the Superman family is shown amongst other heroes but only made two prior comic appearances?
Ooh I didn't think of Alice White. Good idea, but DC wiki suggests she made a dozen prior appearances.
Yes it is Superwoman-Kristin Wells. Really interesting choice to include her when she had only made the two prior comic appearances in DC Comics Presents Annuals #2 & #4. She was also mentioned in the novel Miracle Monday which was her first "appearance" and is referred to in Annual #2. Also her appearance in this final Superman story is suggested to be evidence that the story occurred on some other world than Earth-1 since she claimed to be a descendent of Jimmy Olsen and he was killed in this story. (Also she is an interesting character from a Legion point of view since she supposedly came from the 29th Century where there were numerous technologies that would make several of the legionnaires powers redundant. Another sort of technology loss event in the hundred years between?)
Fox was stopping a crime, and ended up thrashing Captain Atom's bedroom by accident (there was a helicopter involved!) Captain Atom was enraged, and Batman of all people had to calm him down. as a sort of apology, Fox bought Atom a new bed, and left a note "I hope I can try it some time" or something like that. very cheeky and flirty of her... and they made her French too
Crimson Fox was fun character, made even more interesting once it was revealed she was actually twins who took turns donning the costume.
Loki once offered a great gift to a group of humans and mutants which would have spread to the entire human race, empowering them and making them almost gods themselves. Why in the end did they reject his gift?
Yes that is correct , if not the whole story. I imagine you are thinking of the same story, the Alpha Flight/X-Men 2 issue series.
Normal humans were empowered in tremendous ways but at the cost of the loss of magic, specifically in terms of magically empowered beings who suffered horribly, and also in terms of the "magic" of human imagination and creativity. For example one of the transformed humans could make his previous dreams of architectural buildings into reality but could no longer create anything new.
Loki had sought more power for himself from beings that were sort of gods to him, and their requirement was that he offer a great gift to humans. When the humans in the end rejected his gift because of the cost he tried to force them to accept it at which the higher beings appeared and chastised him saying that if he had only accepted the humans rejection they would have granted his request.
I really enjoyed the crossover and thought it was a terrific story. Your turn.
Yes, same story though you remember it much better than I do! (I only read summaries of the issues, not the issues themselves)
If you ever get a chance to read it I recommend it. I have the original issues as well as a TPB collecting those and the later X-Men/New Mutants in Asgard story, both great reads.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Magog accidentally blasted someone, and was very unapologetic for it. This led Power Girl to (rather violently) kick him off the team.
Who did he blast?
Is this in Justice Society? I haven't read those. Lets guess Hourman?
Cyclone was coming up behind Magog to help. HE turned and blasted her. when Power Girl called him out on it, he lamely said "she came up on my blind side". and that is when Kara used violence...
i guessed Cyclone when I remembered that you have used her in a number of trivia games before. I guess you like her as a character Ibby?
Superman gave Lana Lang super-powers via a blood transfusion, and when Lois becomes jealous and despondent he gave them to Lois as well. The two women teamed up in super outfits to do super-hero stuff while Superman travelled to a distant galaxy. However Superman had a specific reason for giving them both powers which involved a deal to save the whole world. What was this deal and who was it with?
yes, you're right stile with my fairly limited comics reading, I tend to gravitate towards characters I know and like... wind powers also usually fascinate me.
a deal... hm...
the deal was to save the world without lifting a finger of his own? and it was with... Lex Luthor?
Close enough. It was Brainiac and he did agree to leave Earth alone, in particular not to destroy it. But why?
I don't think you will ever guess (I certainly wouldn't have) so here is the explanation. In Superman's Girl-Friend Lois Lane #17, in only his second ever appearance, Brainiac in revenge for Superman stopping his plan to collect the bottled cities of Earth sought to put him in a no-win situation. Having contacted Superman and protected behind his force field where Superman agreed he couldn't touch him, Brainiac offered him a choice. Either Brainiac would destroy the Earth or ... on a particular day he would mentally force Superman's two loves Lois and Lana to go to a certain location where they would be killed, and on this day Superman had to promise to be in a distant galaxy where he couldn't save them and not have told anyone about it. Superman agreed to the deal but had outsmarted Brainiac by giving the two women temporary super-powers so that when they entered the explosive laden building they survived the explosion unscathed. Brainiac of course, being the noble and honourable being he was(!?), honoured the deal. as Superman says to him "You're a rogue and a scoundrel, Brainiac ... but at least you kept your word!"
Annfie has it, it was Jubilee! Both Jubilee and Tim were shown very distraught at the end of that DC/Marvel (also called Marvel/DC, to give both companies equal billing) series
Old West might suggest a US citizen but that would be too obvious in light of the question. That was why my first guess was Mexican.
Femme Fatale doesn't really help much as that could be from anywhere.
Spook suggests ghost or spy - or ... I just googled it and discovered that it can also be racial slur against those of dark skin colour (something I never knew) so perhaps somewhere in Africa or maybe the Caribbean.
Missed it by this much! Femme fatale has become such a well used borrow term in English that I dismissed it. Silly me. Well done Thoth and thanks for the question and clues Ann.
In the 1978 JLA/JSA team-up, the teams met five DCU heroes/anti-heroes from various points in the distant past. Who were these five historical characters?
Ibby correctly guessed Jonah Hex and Viking Prince.
Thoth correctly guessed Black Pirate and Enemy Ace, and Jonah Hex again.
So I'm going to give it to whoever guesses the fifth character correctly.
To recap:
In the 1978 JLA/JSA team-up, the teams met five DCU heroes/anti-heroes from various points in the distant past. Who were these five historical characters?
Four of the five:
Jonah Hex Enemy Ace Viking Prince Black Pirate
Not:
Cinnamon Viking Commando Grim Ghost Vandal Savage Shining Knight
Originally Posted by Thoth
'78 seems a bit past the cast of thousands team ups. Into Conway territory....
This was early in the Conway era, when the book was still oversized; this was also Conway's first JLA/JSA team up.
I know we kind of differ on the cast of thousands team ups, Thoth. As always, that's a good thing. Keeps these forums lively.
first retcon: that they were humans transplanted into robot bodies when their human bodies were destroyed? (including Will Magnus himself at some point!)
retcon: Will Magnus was dreaming the whole thing up?
When Doomsday first appeared, the Justice League encountered him and were torn apart. Which Justice Leaguer tracked Doomsday alone, until their teammates could recover and help (not that it mattered...)
Beetle was heavily injured, and only Ice and Maxima were left standing. (for those keeping count, Fire, Booster Gold, Guy Gardner, and I believe Bloodwynd were all out too).
Ice convinced Maxima to fly Beetle to medical attention while she followed Doomsday herself...
I thought Booster, Beetle, Guy and Bloodwynd were all out of it but wasn't sure about the rest. Ice seemed the most likely. Good question and a bit surprised I didn't know the answer automatically.
Long before the 1986 Superman reboot there were plans afoot as comics entered the Bronze Age to cut back Superman's powers with half of them ending up in the hands of an interdimensional being. However this plan from writer Denny O'Neil and editor Julius Schwartz started by actually making him stronger. What was the radical change to Superman lore that made him even tougher?
A cosmic shockwave, or some such thing, renders Kryptonite inert. There's a delightful bit where Supes cheerfully snacks on a piece of Kryptonite that a bad guy tries to threaten him with.
I thought Booster, Beetle, Guy and Bloodwynd were all out of it but wasn't sure about the rest. Ice seemed the most likely. Good question and a bit surprised I didn't know the answer automatically.
Glad you liked it! I found the use of the League good - that scene with Ice convincing Maxima to save Beetle was well done/
A cosmic shockwave, or some such thing, renders Kryptonite inert. There's a delightful bit where Supes cheerfully snacks on a piece of Kryptonite that a bad guy tries to threaten him with.
Bingo. A science team are trying out an experimental Kryptonite powered reactor which runs wild and explodes, somehow turning all the Kryptonite into Iron. As the Daily Planet headline reads, "Now he's really invulnerable". This is followed by a series of stories where Superman is having to save the day with mysteriously having much less power than normal while being stalked in the background by a mysterious "sand" Superman.
The story was a valiant effort to reign in his power but following writers largely ignored the change apart from referencing the lack of Kryptonite so in the end it had little to no effect. There was a post-Crisis version written, pencilled and inked by Walt Simonson in 1992, which retold the story in a single Special. This time it was Luthor who was experimenting on Kryptonite but the change had less effect since it was far more rare after Crisis. The sand-Superman was the centre of the story and once again sacrifices himself for the real Superman.
Hint: Black Panther's true motivation for joining the Avengers was a late-90s retcon by writer Christopher Priest, who was scripting the character's solo book at the time.
He was worried about another of the Avengers being a security risk? (no way would that have been an original story line but I can imagine it being a retcon.)
Yes and no. No, because the Vision hadn't yet been created when Black Panther joined the Avengers. Yes, because he wanted to keep tabs on the Avengers, but the whole team.
Hmmm...I guess that's close enough. Ibby gets the next question.
And, BTW, it was indeed a retcon -- and a controversial one. Christopher Priest, who is black and was writing Black Panther's solo book at the time (the late 90s) has been vocal in his opinion that Roy Thomas's Silver Age portrayal of Black Panther as a member of the Avengers is embarrassing and demeaning. That was why Priest did the retcon. This infuriated fans (and fans turned pro such as Kurt Busiek) who loved the "noble" Black Panther of yesteryear, but I personally agree with Priest.
Ah, didn’t realise it was the Avengers as a whole. I read some Black Panther biographies and was trying to recall what i had read
Not familiar with Panther’s first bit of tenure… but it does seem as though the retcon ties in to Panther’s status as ruler of wakanda. Thanks for the history lesson Annfie
Ok…
In the Red Winter storyline, what clue did Sue leave Ralph, which eventually allowed him to foil a key part of Sonar’s plan ?
Sue returned her wedding ring to Ralph... and Ralph realized it was not her actual ring! He could only afford a gold-plated, fake diamond ring, but their love was real - Sue sending him a real diamond ring meant her feelings for Sonar were fake. and indeed, Sue was stringing Sonar along so she could learn his plans, and she tipped Ralph off as to the bombs he had hidden around Moscow.
In early Post-Crisis continuity Superman and Batman often didn't get on very well, their different approaches and methods getting on each other's nerves. So Superman is rather disturbed when he finds Batman in Metropolis encroaching on his turf when Batman follows up the case in Gotham City of the unexplained death of a "wandering vagabond". Superman meanwhile has concerns over an unknown woman who knows his secret identity. The connection between the two is a piece of jewellery. What is the jewellery and why does it form a bond of trust between the two heroes?
That's the one. That good old Martha ring - no, wait ...
(Side rant: I am not as bothered as many by the whole "Martha" thing from Batman V Superman as many fans. Because we all know Superman was raised by the Kents and thinks of himself as a human, we forget that the in-universe characters think differently. The shock of Superman valuing someone named Martha, a name with huge value to Batman, stopped Batman in his tracks but didn't convince him. Lois explaining that it was Superman's mother's name (yes the same name as Batman's mother) made him realise that Superman wasn't just some alien who was a danger to the world and it humanised Superman, made him see all he knew in a different light, that he valued a human above his own life, and also coming from Lois showing her devotion to him. That this wasn't clear to viewers does mean that the scripting needed a tweak but it isn't the total rubbish it is often seen as. End rant.)
Yes It was the Kryptonite ring Luthor had made that cost him his hand. I really like the last few pages, first where Batman reveals that he has had the ring all along and Superman says "You have me at a disadvantage." and Batman says "I know" and leaves but also leaves the ring behind (in a lead box) for Superman. Then in the last Page Superman visits the Batcave and after acknowledging their differences talks about his fear that some enemy might one day control him and hands over the ring. Batman says "Do you realise what you are asking?" Superman says "Yes. Yes I do. I want the means to stop me to be in the hands of a man I can trust with my life." Great Story, great pacing and great characterisation.
thanks stile I also thought the Martha thing was fairly realistic. It's an important name to Batman too. (the one thing I did feel off about this was Superman saying "Martha" rather than "mom" or "ma"!)
thanks for reminding me about this story too, thought it was a nice start to their friendship.
ok let's see...
In Tales of the Dark Multiverse (a sort of What If for DC), in one world Terra decides to act on her own and murders basically the entire world. Who were the last two superheroes we see her kill?
you got it! Superman was called in to stop Terra... she used her powers to gather kryptonite. oops. and when Changeling came to confront her she burned him alive... then destabilized Earth's core, basically killing most of the world...
No. He had just come forward in time, so it would have been reasonable for them to try and reverse it, or do it again.
Originally Posted by stile86
Did they try to nuke him?
This is close enough for the win. They did try to blow him up, by sending him into space on a rocket. Military rockets were all the rage in Cap's original run.
During Zero Hour a new Batgirl showed up who was fairly quickly shown not to be the one from our universe/timeline. Other than being able to walk (our Barbara was still confined to a wheelchair) what else gave away her other timeline origins?
I don't remember the details, so I'm guessing: Was her Jim Gordon dead?
Not exactly what I was thinking of but close enough as an important part of the difference. This Batgirl had the confrontation with Joker that our Babs did but this time it was her Dad who opened the door and was shot which killed him and Barbara who was kidnapped. After Batman rescued her, Bruce helped her through the trauma and they ended up as a couple, leading to this Batgirl's very awkward comment about how much she and Bruce meant to each other.
I don't remember the details, so I'm guessing: Was her Jim Gordon dead?
Not exactly what I was thinking of but close enough as an important part of the difference. This Batgirl had the confrontation with Joker that our Babs did but this time it was her Dad who opened the door and was shot which killed him and Barbara who was kidnapped. After Batman rescued her, Bruce helped her through the trauma and they ended up as a couple, leading to this Batgirl's very awkward comment about how much she and Bruce meant to each other.
Take it away Paladin.
huh cool, I don't think this was outlined in the main Zero Hour book eh? must have been in a tie-in. nice!
huh cool, I don't think this was outlined in the main Zero Hour book eh? must have been in a tie-in. nice!
You are right! It appeared in Batman #511 before Superman gathered all the heroes together (including this Batgirl) in the main series. I had forgotten that.
Okay, maybe an easy one or not...What cool piece of technology debuted in a magnificent double-page spread, only 2 and 3 pages into Jack Kirby's legendary Fourth World run?
I will be something from Jimmy Olsen's adventures, as I'm fairly sure that's what Kirby started on.
Originally Posted by stile86
That big white flying "car" that Jimmy and the Newsboy Legion flew around in?
thoth was on the right track, but stile nailed it! It's called the "Whiz Wagon", btw, (stile, you only get a B+ because you didn't know it's moniker ) and it is featured in all its glory in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #133, the beginning of Kirby's defection to DC and the unofficial/official beginning to his Fourth World saga. (IIRC, there's either an allusion or even a direct name-drop of Darkseid even in that issue.)
I first encountered the Newsboys and their vehicle when they appeared sometime into the post-Crisis Superman revamo, but I was blown away by how Kirby drew the Wagon when I cracked open my Fourth World Omnibus! I stared at that spread for a good long while and even flipped back occasionally to gape some more! Kirby's Fourth Worl artistry is some of his very best, for sure!
Of course it was the Whiz Wagon! Mental blank. That is a great spread image. Great question Pal.
I think this will be an easier one. Darkseid is of course a major foe these days in the DCU. What other two characters, one from DC and one from Marvel, are sometimes thought of as "copies" and can you name the single artist who created both of them?
I think I just guessed Mongul cuz he seems like someone Starlin would invent if he couldn't use a Thanos
During one of the Royal Flush Gang's pre-Crisis fights against the JLA, one of them memorably took down Superman without breaking a sweat. Which member of the RFG was it and how did they do it?
(Credit where credit is due: although Thanos appears to be a completely Starlin creation, Mongul was co-created by Len Wein as writer and Starlin as artist.)
I can't remember reading much of the Royal Flush Gang pre-Crisis so I will guess that Jack somehow made a red sun beam come from his eye?
Monocle blasted Hawkman with an eye beam around this time too.
This was part of a peak period of JLA, with thee New Gods, Starro taking New York, Red Tornado's origins, Injustice Society looking to obliterate an Earth and the classic #200.
Stein battling the villain in this one was a treat. All notable for Ralph and Dinah getting lots of panels, and the Royal Flush gang getting some depth. Jack figuring out at least part of the multiple layers of bad guys was unusual.
Six Infinitors go back in time, where they end up fighting six golden age characters. During the fight, the six golden age charactes are replaced by six villains. With the infinitors remdered unconscious, it falls to six others to battle the villains and their master.
The six infitors are given below. But which Golden Age characters did they fight, who were the six villains and who remained to fight the villains
Nuklon – GA Character - Villain Silver Scarab – GA Character - Villain
Fury – GA Character - Villain Northwind – GA Character - Villain
Jade – GA Character - Villain Obsidian – GA Character - Villain
argh. I even missed the bump... oh heck, there's a lot of answers here...um...
whew...I wrote down the answers...
Nuklon – GA Character - Villain Silver Scarab – GA Character - Villain
Fury – GA Character - Villain Northwind – GA Character - Villain
Jade – ALAN SCOTT- Villain Obsidian – GA Character - Villain
The Six Rescuers:
Some good guesses...
Golden Agers = NOT: Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Jay Garrick, Doctor Occult, Doll Man - 1 of these was a rescuer though.
Golden Agers = NOT Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam
HINT: One of the six Golden Agers isn't *really* a Golden Ager. 2 others were prominant in the title where all this happened. Villains and rrescuers also up fro grabs.
Six Infinitors go back in time, where they end up fighting six golden age characters. During the fight, the six golden age charactes are replaced by six villains. With the infinitors rendered unconscious, it falls to six others to battle the villains and their master.
The six infinitors are given below. But which Golden Age characters did they fight, who were the six villains and who remained to fight the villains?
Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE
Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE
Fury – GA Character - Villain
Northwind – GA Character - MIST
Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL
Obsidian – GA Character - MONOCLE
The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT - 2 TO GET
Some good guesses...
Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite
I even managed to lose the answer in the time stream.... back with it now...
The Atom is a hit.
Fury's Golden Age character is one of the first. Fury's villain is one I first saw in the 1970s JSA comics, and he may have travelled through time to be in this era.
Northwind's Golden Age character is one who had some costume clashes with another hero.
The 2 remaining rescuers:- One is more familiar with the streets of Metropolis. The other shares a surname with another hero.
ANSWER
Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE
Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE
Fury – GA Character - Villain
Northwind – GA Character - MIST
Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL
Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE
The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT - 2 TO GET
Some good guesses...
Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard
The Guardian and the Phantom Lady are the two rescuers! The Guardian didn't make many All Star appearances, so it was something new to younger readers. Sandra Knight did appear a bit more often. But wasn't really one of the core cast.
Fury's Golden Age character, while not the Crimson Avenger, is just a little later and follows a similar approach.
Fury's villain is one I first saw in the 1970s JSA comics, and he may have travelled through time to be in this era. The character shares part of a name with a Charlton hero, whose successor would hav ehtier own title many years later.
While Manhunter had naming problems with another golden age charatcer, Northwind's Golden Age character's issue was only about the costume. It was a complete clash with a more prominant Golden Age figure (although wasn't that character's oiriginal costume) and got a spiffy update for this title.
ANSWER
Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE
Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE
Fury – GA Character - Villain
Northwind – GA Character - MIST
Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL
Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE
The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT, GUARDIAN, PHANTOM LADY
Good guesses...
Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder, Superman, Hawkgirl, Per Degaton, Manhunter Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard
Fury's Golden Age character, while not the Crimson Avenger, is just a little later and follows a similar approach. Crimson Avenger is often in the shadow of this character, due to its success.
Fury's villain has opposite powers to a snowman. He is one I first saw in the 1970s JSA comics, and he may have travelled through time to be in this era. The character shares part of a name with a Charlton hero, whose successor would hav ehtier own title many years later.
ANSWER
Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE
Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE
Fury – GA Character - Villain
Northwind – TARANANTULA - MIST
Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL
Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE
The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT, GUARDIAN, PHANTOM LADY
Good guesses...
Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder, Superman, Hawkgirl, Per Degaton, Manhunter, Blue Snowman Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard
Not Red Tornado, although the villain has powers based on another of the elements.
Not midnight. The character who was an early DC character has gone on to be one of their biggest. The character with the costume change, started off in yellow and purple.
GA Hero: Fury's Golden Age character, while not the Crimson Avenger, is just a little later and follows a similar approach. Crimson Avenger is often in the shadow of this character, due to its success. The character who was an early DC character has gone on to be one of their biggest. He is very prominant across multiple titles.
GA Villain: Fury's villain has opposite powers to a snowman. He is one I first saw in the 1970s JSA comics, and he may have travelled through time to be in this era, as his first appearance was actually in the 1970s. The character shares part of a name with a Charlton hero, whose successor would hav ehtier own title many years later. The heroic character who shartes the the main part of the name, made an appearance as one of the Mordru zombies in v4 of the Legion, and would have appeared in War of the Gods.
ANSWER Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE
Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE
Fury – GA Character - Villain
Northwind – TARANANTULA - MIST
Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL
Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE
The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT, GUARDIAN, PHANTOM LADY
Good guesses...
Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder, Superman, Hawkgirl, Per Degaton, Manhunter, Blue Snowman, Midnight, Red Tornado,Zatara Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard, Deathbolt, Vandal Savage, Mister Atom
Given the hint, the villain's name must be some variation of "Vulcan", but I don't remember the character. For now, I'll simply guess "Vulcan".
As for the Golden Ager, I suspect Ibby has it - I was sure that I'd previously seen Batman in the "NOT" list, but a careful re-look shows me that he is actually not there.
Batman is the Golden Age hero, and it was indeed Vulcan as the villain.
I was wondering why Batman kept evading guesses.
All of this occurred in the first appearance of Infinity Inc, in All Star Squadron. Roy Thomas certainly introduced readers to a host of fantastic golden age characters. Having the likes of The Guardian appear was a treat.
And so ends probably the longest question in this thread. Next time, I'm going for a one character answer.
As Chaim got the last character, it's over to you Chaim!
ANSWER Nuklon – COMMANDER STEEL - PSYCHO PIRATE
Silver Scarab – LIBERTY BELLE - BRAINWAVE
Fury – BATMAN- VULCAN
Northwind – TARANANTULA - MIST
Jade – ALAN SCOTT- RAG DOLL
Obsidian – ATOM - MONOCLE
The Six Rescuers: JAY GARRICK, JOHNNY QUICK, ROBIN, WILDCAT, GUARDIAN, PHANTOM LADY
Good guesses...
Golden Agers/ Rescuers: NOT - Wesley Dodds, Kent Nelson, Doctor Occult, Doll Man, Robotman, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Jonah Hex, Viking Prince, Shining Knight, Uncle Sam, Firebrand, Power Girl, Huntress, Star-Spangled Kid, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Spectre, Rose and Thorn, Harlequin, Starman, Johnny Thunder, Superman, Hawkgirl, Per Degaton, Manhunter, Blue Snowman, Midnight, Red Tornado,Zatara Villains: NOT - Ultra-Humanite, Wizard, Deathbolt, Vandal Savage, Mister Atom
now that I think about it, Batman would make tons of sense if Robin and / or Huntress were there. guess I just personally tend to forget Superman and Batman existed during the Golden Age AND even tended to influence Earth-2 history after!
In Pre-Crisis, apart from the usual Lois/Lana Superman obsession, Lana had a long distance relationship with Vartox for quite a while but then ended up in a pretty serious relationship with Clark Kent not long before Crisis. In Post-Crisis she married Pete Ross although they later divorced. (In later years she became a confidante and mentor to Kara who adopted the name of Linda Lang as a distant cousin, but that isn't the sort of relationship I am looking for.)
One to go.
I don't remember her dating Guardian though it is possible. Gangbuster had a close relationship with Lois for a while but I don't remember Lana being involved.
Can you list all the serious relationships the adult Lana Lang has had? I count four. Can you remember more? Guessed so far: Clark Kent, Pete Ross, Vartox. One to go.
I'm only remembering frivolous, smallville ones... The alien who gave her the ring, that drone bee, superman red...or was it blue, Spiderman who she then ate in that early DC/Marvel crossover..
A manhunter, who was duping her into monitoring Supes?
Good thought but he only had eyes for Lois (although he also found Contessa attractive).
Originally Posted by thoth lad
I'm only remembering frivolous, smallville ones... The alien who gave her the ring, that drone bee, superman red...or was it blue, Spiderman who she then ate in that early DC/Marvel crossover..
A manhunter, who was duping her into monitoring Supes?
none of these.
Additional clue: we have covered Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis. What's left?
Can you list all the serious relationships the adult Lana Lang has had in the comics? I count four. Can you remember more? Guessed so far: Pre-Crisis - Vartox, Clark Kent; Post-Crisis - Pete Ross
Not Grifter. I'm guessing no-one here has been reading New52 or Rebirth Superman comics.
This character is strongly associated with Superman, still appears currently, is a hero in his own right, has family with more super-heroics, and has had his own self-titled comic.
The Chinese Superman? (And you're correct, I have not been reading new 52 Superman at all. The new 52 effectively killed my interest in the wider DCU. I have bought very little since that began.)
Lana Lang and John Henry Irons have been in a relationship since about Superman #32 (New 52 volume). In the current version Lana became an engineer after leaving Smallville and teamed up with John on a space adventure to assist Superman and help solve a mysterious sleeping/coma illness that was affecting many of the residents of Smallville (turned out to be Brainiac). The relationship has been ongoing with the pair also combining their tech knowledge both for business and the occasional assist to Superman and I think recently advanced to the stage of engagement. Lana and John's niece (yes it is niece) Natasha get on well and the three have formed an effective functional family unit. We haven't yet seen any fallout from Natasha's recent weeks/months long stay on Warworld being captured, tortured and enslaved during Superman's attempt to free its inhabitants from Mongul but we may. (Great story by Philip Kennedy Johnson but getting a bit away from Lana now.)
The other more "recent" event in Lana's life was when she and Lois absorbed the energy flare at the death of the New52 Superman and for a short period became two Superwomen. The energy killed Lois failry quickly but Lana was ok for sometime until it began to affect her as well. Steel took her to the Fortress of Solitude to get help from the Rebirth Superman where the energy was removed and she was cured, now without super powers, and resumed her place as part of Steelworks and the Irons/Lang family.
The New52/Rebirth Superman story is convoluted - wow, how unusual for comics - with the Post-Crisis Superman ending up in the New52 universe after Convergence along with his Lois and their son Jonathon, and he ended up replacing the New52 Superman after his death with some interesting stories about people including the Justice League wondering whether to trust him. However thanks to some involvement from Mxyzptlk Jonathon managed to merge the New52 and Post-Crisis Superman and Lois retconning the universe along with it so that they had always been the Rebirth Superman and Lois. Questions about some things that happened to the New52 Superman, such as his relationship with Wonder Woman, have been largely ignored and are up to the reader's interpretation. (And people say comics can be confusing. Huh.)
Forget Byrne or Waid's Superman and Wondy as a couple. Back in 1973, in a Cary Bates tale, Superman announced his engagement to Wonder Woman, and it was all over the news. But why?
That was it. Supes and Wondy were quite smoochy throughout. They selflessly declared their love for each other publically. All because another woman was gently rejected by Supes. That drove her insane, and she swore vengeance on Superman's love. Knowing Lois might not survive, Wondy stepped in to be a new love. Both Wondy and Lois got to save the other. There's a fun scene where the stalker rips off a Lois mask, to reveal a hooded disguise, then rips that off to show her true face. No idea how she could breathe under all that.
In the “everything becomes perfect” Superman Red/Superman Blue story, the two Supermen solve a lot of problems. But a good Lex Luthor contributes one thing / what is it?
Lex develops some sort of super-antibiotic/anti-everything serum which Superman distributes into water sources around the world, a few drops here and a few drops there, and it cures most of humanity's physical ailments including blindness etc. It even causes Lex's hair to grow back.
1) make all kryptonite harmless, by using it to 2) recreate Krypton 3) which enabled them to restore the bottle city of Kandor 4) oh, and they also created a world for the Atlanteans 5) they removed all evil on Earth 6) and even the Phantom Zone criminals were freed, because the anti-evil rays worked on them...
Loved that story as a kid, though now tend to look askance at the (common at the time) rehabilitation technique of effectively brain-washing. They even managed to solve the Lois/Lana quandry by marrying both of them since there were now two Supermans ... Supermen ... whatever.
Which (in)famous frequent adversary of Green Lantern (Hal) originated in the Golden Age as an adversary of the Flash (Jay)?
Yes! In the Golden Age she was a man-hating "Queen" of an uninhabited planet and battled Jay Garrick on two occasions. I recently watched a fun Youtube which dived into her Golden Age stories and her sole Post-Crisis appearance. "Forgotten Star Sapphire Fears Men - Mistress Of The Seventh Dimension" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itir-WKBrT8
If Solon's source was Egyptian, and this being DC, is this linked to doctor fate? More specifically, a high priest or pharaoh Nabu served under. Was it Khufu?
Christopher Columbus is the correct answer! In the final issue of the Atlantis Chronicles, between stories that actually told us about Atlantean history, there is a small two-page chapter about one of Columbus's crew seeing a Tritonian mermaid grooming her pet manatee. When the crewman calls Columbus over to see her, Columbus sees only the manatee and tells the sailor he's been at sea for too long. This was no doubt inspired by the fact that Columbus, in one of his logs, actually reported seeing mermaids (though the log indicated that he himself was the one who saw them).
Yay! In a bit of synchronicity, there must have been a recent trailer for The Little Mermaid. There's been some tension over casting (I know. Mermaids). It was on the newsfeed I was reading at lunch, and mentioned Columbus. So when Chaim gave the hint, it was the first name in my head.
Because he knew what evil lurked in the hearts of DC editorial?
Funny, but nope. Although it could be argued editorial had a part to play.
Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
Copyright issues ?
That's what my first guess would have been. But DC had the rights to publish it, didn't impinge on anyone else's copyright, and it didn't finish due to a natural contract length.
I keep thinking that maybe it has something to do with the Alec Baldwin movie.
Good guess, but not in this case.
Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
The owners of the Intellectual Property didn't like the series creative direction?
Because it was this. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? No one, as the writer killed the Shadow. But only for a while. Before bringing him back as a head (pre Pantha days) with trademark hat, on top of a large robot body. Street & Smith pulled the plug.
Some die hard Shadow fans weren't pleased with the Shadow changing guns. I guess others weren't happy about it being set in modern times. But it's a good, fun read. You could see hints of what was to come, so stopping it seemed a bit knee jerk, as they had a panic over their character.
It does. I can get why they reacted in horror. But there's a bit going on under the surface, that was getting resolved along the arc. That was the fun bit, watching them diverge from expectations while just about keeping within what had gone before. Killing him off, to explore how the network of agents would cope was a powerful idea.
It does. I can get why they reacted in horror. But there's a bit going on under the surface, that was getting resolved along the arc. That was the fun bit, watching them diverge from expectations while just about keeping within what had gone before. Killing him off, to explore how the network of agents would cope was a powerful idea.
Not having read it, I can't really make a counterpoint, except to say that I think it's an idea that would work better for some series than others. And I also doubt Andy Helfer would have executed it in a way that entertained me personally. Emphasis on personally, because different people have different tastes.
I've always thought that it would be an interesting plot for a detective story to have the detective killed off and all the other stock characters (the bumbling police inspector, the not so bright but loyal sidekick, the efficient secretary, etc.) would have to band together to solve the mystery.
What historically important comic issue features a story in which the main character is recruited by John Galt to investigate a series of crimes which turn out to have been committed by James Kirk?
I think it's a story in the comic that had Captain Marvel's first appearance. That would have been Whiz Comics. I think the info got posted on here at some point.
Thoth has it! It's Whiz Comics #2, featuring the first appearance of Captain Marvel (and Dr. Sivana), Ibis the Invincible, Spy Smasher, and, relevant to the question, Scoop Smith!
The Scoop Smith story features the intrepid reporter investigating a radium theft from city hospital at the request of the hospital adminstratior John Galt. The perpetrator, the evil character known as by the rather common villain name of Doctor Death, turns out to be ex-hospital employee James Kirk!
As far as I know, neither John Galt nor James Kirk has any connection to the more famous fictional characters who would later bear the names, and its not unusual for characters to turn up in older fiction who bear names that would later become more famously associated with other fictional characters or even real life individuals, but it's kind of notable to have two in the same obscure little story.
And the fans with those wonderfully huge memories demonstrate their value once again! Great stuff. One of the best bits of these trivia questions is learning the trivia.
With both Vision & Scarlet Witch and Mantis & Swrodsman marrying, the Avengers are a bit short staffed. How do they end up looking for new members after looking up old comrades fails?
With both Vision & Scarlet Witch and Mantis & Swrodsman marrying, the Avengers are a bit short staffed. How do they end up looking for new members after looking up old comrades fails?
I'll admit I asked that question partly to get people to read the Lady Constantine miniseries, which was published 20 years ago but tends to be treated as an afterthought in the Sandman/Vertigo Canon.
It's a good story well told, and I also had one of my greatest social media experiences because of it, when I made Andy Diggle happy by telling him how much I like it.
Sorry for my tardiness, y'all! I have been interstate for a week!
Back in the day, the East and West Coast Avengers used to play baseball occasionally. Captain America warned Thor during one of these games that one of the West Coast Avengers cheats....who was the cheat and what caused Cap to think that?
It was Hawkeye, and while you are probably right about him generally being a big ol' cheater there was a specific thing he'd done that made Cap think that
He challenged Grandmaster to pick the one of two arrows in his hands with a trick arrowhead attached, and when Grandmaster picked, the arrow he picked had nothing on it, which made him (apparently) lose Hawkeye's game and restore all of the Avengers (and maybe 4/5 of the universe?) to life. But actually, Grandmaster had picked the correct arrow, and Hawkeye detached the trick arrowhead in his hand when Grandmaster pulled his selection.
He challenged Grandmaster to pick the one of two arrows in his hands with a trick arrowhead attached, and when Grandmaster picked, the arrow he picked had nothing on it, which made him (apparently) lose Hawkeye's game and restore all of the Avengers (and maybe 4/5 of the universe?) to life. But actually, Grandmaster had picked the correct arrow, and Hawkeye detached the trick arrowhead in his hand when Grandmaster pulled his selection.
wow. Much more cosmic than the "he replaced the arrow on a nearby church spire, with a powered one, to fool the others on which way the wind was blowing" guess I was going for.
He challenged Grandmaster to pick the one of two arrows in his hands with a trick arrowhead attached, and when Grandmaster picked, the arrow he picked had nothing on it, which made him (apparently) lose Hawkeye's game and restore all of the Avengers (and maybe 4/5 of the universe?) to life. But actually, Grandmaster had picked the correct arrow, and Hawkeye detached the trick arrowhead in his hand when Grandmaster pulled his selection.
Those East Coast Avengers-West Coast Avengers baseball games were the beginning of my monthly series of articles on baseball in comic books at Royals Review!
New question: How did Electro once lure Spider-Man into a trap atop the Statue of Liberty?
Those East Coast Avengers-West Coast Avengers baseball games were the beginning of my monthly series of articles on baseball in comic books at Royals Review!
That's pretty cool! One wonders if Dr Druid might not have just retired to the bleachers to sip tea and let an illusion do the work for him
re Electro and Spider-Man....I feel like I will know this when someone says it, but I can't remember - did he light up the torch with electricity?
Correct! He used his electricity to impersonate the Human Torch's flame telling him they need to meet. And when Spider-Man got there, he was ambushed by the Frightful Four, of whom Electro was their new fourth member. After capturing him, they went after the FF, with the Trapster pretending to be Spider-Man!
Whew! I've just googled to find out the names of the others. Katie has appeared elsewhere I think. In X-Men and in an alternate future story with the new mutants. So, that's possibly why I could just about remember her.
Power Pack appeared in one of the UK weekly comics I got as a kid. I remember it, because I wasn't sure why I liked it. It was certainly a much softer toned story, with younger protagonists, seemingly aimed at a younger audience. So, it was an outlier in my diet of action, war and superhero comics.
Looking back, a lot was due to the lovely Brigman art. But it was a story with interstellar scope and family bonds and squabbles offering a different set up to other titles.
I doubt the weekly comic got past the first storyline, and it's a title I've not gone back to.
The first couple of years of Power Pack was awesome stuff!
There are a lot of great comic book artists but I can't think of one who draws kids (or space horsies) better than June Brigman. She also gave all the kids distinctive and unique power signatures which has been lost these days.
Bog was great when he was on the title too, but nothing beats the first couple of years of Power Pack. Sadly it kinda became generic superhero soap opera towards the end and then just outright bad.
Well EDE got the start of it while stile added in the detail I was after. Normally, they would have to fight it out in Khundian combat courts. But whoever gets here first with the next question can take it.
you got it stile, great memory! yup, Maxima was too beat up - so Ice and Martian Manhunter/Bloodwynd were the two on site. along with Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen.
the Spectre - Jay Garrick also ran to him after, but Spectre didn't intervene until the universe collapsed in on itself or something
Zero Hour was the first crossover event I read... it does not hold up I read COIE a bit after Zero Hour, and was blown away at the difference in quality...
This could probably be a better Titans trivia question but I have just been reading some old issues tonight and it's fresh in my mind - what was the HIVE's real motivation for turning Grant Wilson into the Ravager and siccing him on the New Teen Titans?
Bait so that they could get Deathstroke working for them?
Bingo! Slade knocked HIVE back when they went after him directly, so they set his kid up to die fighting the Titans knowing that Slade would wanna kill the Titans in DAARRRRK RRRRRREVENGE!!!!
It is not that stile. Oddly, the question I was going to ask was related to that. I just thought it a bit too random. On another timeline, you'd have been nearly right.
While we are on the Avengers....when the West Coast Avengers were sent back in time to the wild west, how did they get a message back to their own time to get someone to come rescue them?
Doom was believed dead at the time...or at least as dead as Doom could ever be thought to be. It was immediately after the first Secret Wars, which Doom participated in, to the confusion of those who saw him die shortly beforehand.
While we are on the FF....the Wizard primarily sees himself as a counterpart of Reed Richards these days, but he originally became a supervillain to defeat which Marvel superhero?
Chaim has got it - after having his plans foiled by a 16 year old, the Wizard naturally decided to upgrade to taking on the smartest man alive
(on a sidenote, I always thought it would make sense for the Wizard to become an X-Men villain as a human genius who hates superhumans and it would make him less generic than the not-really-as-good-as-Dr-Doom guy he is when he faces the Fantastic Four)
During the Crisis on Infinite Earths, the Monitor sent five teams of super-heroes and villains to protect his tuning forks at different points in the time-line. One of those teams was sent to the Old West, where one of the western heroes actually sort-of recognized a member of that team. Who was the one who was recognized, and why would an Old West hero recognize him or her?
Very close - they were trying to attract the werewolf (Bigby Wolf) and he and the Frankenstein monster did fight (the issue's title homaged the Universal film), but there was a genuine purpose in their wanting Bigby.
I'm kind of surprised this one is so hard, as there was a running Fables thread in the Anywhere Machine while the series ran. This trivia thread has been so bogged down in 80's-and-earlier Marvel/DC super-hero stuff that I wanted to mix it up a bit but didn't want to go too obscure. Guess I whiffed on that.
If no one comes up with it in the next day, I'll give it to thoth.
Ah. I was stunned I even got a very close. I've read maybe an issue or so of fables, and an article or two around it.
But werewolf mythology and a few hints would have probably got some one there. Moving from the main titles of a certain era is fun, but they often have a smaller readership and more hints are needed. Which is part of the enjoyment.
That's the second tongue in cheek answer today that's paid off for me.
yeah I remember now, having Justice in there paved the way for him becoming a full member!
I always found it interesting that these 7 were supposed to be the ones who felt so strongly about being an Avenger, that they snapped out first.
Thor, Wasp, Cap, Hawkeye, Monica, sure. Justice, fine cause they wrote him in. Quasar felt a bit like the odd one out, but I can't remember if it had something to do with his powers too
Not being really up on Marvel, I wondered if Justice being on the team was related to his alternate self from the future, but I don't know if that was part of any plots.
I can't say I was a fan of him on the team really. It was something different, and there was an arc of him proving himself. But the "gosh, I'm with the avengers" was tiresome from the start.
I thought Quasar was picked as he was one of the few who could hold off a crowd of mind controlled Avengers.
in a What If story, Operation Galactic Storm went bad - Earth was blown up. Only a handful of Avengers are shown surviving Part 1, merging with the remnants of the Shiar Imperial Guard.
But two Avengers somehow died off-screen between Part 1 and Part 2. Who were these two?
Gru wrote Quasar in his own title very much the same way he wrote Steve Rogers, so it made sense to me that he was one of the core Avengers that broke free of the Morganverse brainwashing - all of them are at their core characters who do the right thing for its own sake, and aren't superheroes to avenge the night or redeem themselves for being a Russian assassin or whatnot (of course, Bendis made the entire Marvel Universe one big sinkhole of cynicism once he got hold of it but that's a whole other story really....)
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two Avengers somehow died off-screen between Part 1 and Part 2
I actually am not sure if I've read this! But I'll guess Wonder Man and the Vision!
nope! Vision "died" by offering himself to store some stolen tapes/data... it overwrote his personality. Wonder Man's body was blown to bits in the final battle, but they managed to save him by downloading his personality into the Vision's body!
In a What If story, Operation Galactic Storm went bad - Earth was blown up. Only a handful of Avengers are shown surviving Part 1, merging with the remnants of the Shiar Imperial Guard.
But two Avengers somehow died off-screen between Part 1 and Part 2. Who were these two?
*the two characters who die off-screen were on the Shiar Imperial Guard mission.
One is Living Lightning
Who is the other?
Not:
Black Widow Sersi Wonder Man Vision Magdalene Crystal Quasar Hercules Eric Masterson / Thor Scarlet Witch
(another hint: those chosen to go to space included Reservists; and were chosen for their powers and space experience)
recap
In a What If story, Operation Galactic Storm went bad - Earth was blown up. Only a handful of Avengers are shown surviving Part 1, merging with the remnants of the Shiar Imperial Guard.
But two Avengers somehow died off-screen between Part 1 and Part 2. Who were these two?
*the two characters who die off-screen were on the Shiar Imperial Guard mission. The one not yet guessed was LEADING the mission. (another hint: those chosen to go to space included Reservists; and were chosen for their powers and space experience)
One is Living Lightning
Who is the other?
Not:
Black Widow Sersi Wonder Man Vision Magdalene Crystal Quasar Hercules Eric Masterson / Thor Scarlet Witch Starfox Wasp
raz has it! It was Monica - considering she was a former team leader, I guess that's why she was the leader (and the writers wanted Cap and Iron Man on the same team for drama, of course!)
I think Black Widow and Wasp/Hank were also potential leaders, but all 3 were left behind on Earth.
Wooh! I didn't think of Monica because she hadn't really been doing much by that point....and also her powers are pretty similar to Living Lightning's so it's weird they'd be on the same team (unless this was that weird period where she became basically a flying brick)....anyway, while we are on the Avengers:
Which founding member of the Avengers had an immediate distrust of Spider-Man when they first met, and what was the reason behind it?
I had thought of Monica but I disregarded her as I thought this was during her drained/powered down phase after killing Namor's mate (what was her name?) but I guess I got the timing wrong.
As for the founding avengers, wasn't it Wasp who just thought spiders were icky?
I will give it to stile as it was basically because she thought spiders were icky, but it was specifically that bit about wasps and spiders being natural enemies that I was thinking of
(which to be honest is probably the closest thing Stan gave her to a unique personality trait outside of being weirdly horny for everyone for a female character in the 60s)
Thanks Ibby. You kindof deserve it yourself because your answer was more accurate.
Good Q raz. I reread some early avengers in recent years and (almost) remembered it.
Continuing with the Avengers, they are using a modified Quinjet to attempt to penetrate a bubble of time apparently created by a renegade Celestial that has destroyed everyone else who approaches it. However all is not as it seems as they are actually being mind-controlled - but by who?
I remember this one! It was Nebula, and Shulkie nearly killed her when she got unbrainwashed! (although she later ended up being Kang's ex Ravonna if I recall my convoluted timey wimey stuff correctly)
Spot on raz. Yes she at first appeared to be a female Kang amongst the huge council of Kangs, but later revealed herself to be Nebula in the form the Avengers had previously encountered in space claiming to be the granddaughter of Thanos, and in this form she used knowledge and technology stolen from some of the Kangs (using her womanly wiles) to mind control the Avengers and attempt to enter the Bubble of Time. She failed and was lost in the improbability regions around the bubble until later encountering the Fantastic Four there (both the Avengers story and the FF story were written by Walt Simonson) and only much later in a Mark Gruenwald story was it revealed that she was not in fact Nebula but an alternate version of Ravonna who was now his sworn enemy. Gotta love comics.
Dear Sentients, This is ridiculous! Our tax money is going to that Time Institute. And there they are, selling off time machines to alternate universes. They don't even care who knows! Expecting people not to spot a Time Bubble, by calling it a Bubble of Time. That Rond Vidar is no better than his dad, if you ask me. Yours sincerely, Enraged from Rimbor
Besides the fact that they are all ladies, what do Marvel Girl, the Invisible Woman, She-Hulk, Storm, Scarlet Witch, Dagger and Andromeda have in common?
This was D-Man (also known as Demolition Man), right at the start of the Busiek/ Perez run. He was living with an underground community, where water was scarce.
DC's Blackest Night and later zombie based series, weren't the first time a host of DC characters came back from the grave. Name any 5 characters who would have risen from Hades in DC's War of the Gods?
None of Ibby's, but Chaim's is good enough for me.
Blue Beetle Dan Garrett Lord Volt Mindboggler Sparkler Lady Liberty
Others included: Tula, Abin Sur, Katma Tui, Mr Terrific, Skyman, Star Sapphire (I think), Commander Steel, Iron Major, Silent Majority, Mirror Master, Rick Flag, Vigilante, Valda, Golden Eagle and Zatara.
A nice little creepy moment in a mess of a cross over. Even one of the characters called it convoluted.
Yeah, it needed better coordination, too many issues were released out of order. And quite frankly, involving Lobo and L.E.G.I.O.N. was just totally nonsensical. Lobo just had to be everywhere.
Which two puppets did the Ventriloquist use while escaping from Arkham during Knightfall, before he retrieved Scarface?
Just to be clear, these are not known historical puppets that are famous for some reason. Just wanted the names that he assigned to the two puppets he used during that storyline at the time.
Hmm....I'm tempted to give this one to you for being partially - very partially - right, because it doesn't look like anyone else has a clue.
I'll see if anyone else remembers that bit from Knightfall over the next day before settling for that.
A possible victory for comedy guesses!
Reading the question again, if he's just escaped and it's not being played for laughs, he'd take what he could get. So a sock and... a hand puppet from Arkham's therapy room wnere they'd get the inmates to discuss their feelings through it.?
Yes, the first one was a sock - when he escaped from Arkham, being the psycho that he is, the first thing he did was remove a sock from his foot and make it a hand puppet to talk with, and he named it "Socko."
The second one was a puppet not from Arkham, but from a toy store that he immediately robbed, and was a duck named (I believe) Quacko.
Of course, his real purpose was to look for Scarface, his master. He had Quacko holding a gun and Socko playing good puppet-bad puppet to get a policeman to divulge the location of Scarface. Socko telling the cop, "I can't control him...he's a wild duck!"
Eventually, he found Scarface and discarded the duck, but he kept Socko. Scarface, not interested in sharing the Ventriloquist, uncorked this gem to him: "This guy stinks! You should change your partners more often!"
In the end, Scarface and Socko shot one another, leading to Ventriloquist lying unconscious of blood loss from both his hands and eventually back in Arkham.
And there was me thinking they didn't play it for laughs. Socko and Quacko. Coming soon to Bits... Socko / Argh!Yll! team up and Quacko's infiltration of the Legion of Super Pets.
In Byrne's retelling of the first encounter between the Dark Knight and the Man of Steel, what device does Batman use to stop Superman from arresting him and taking him to the police?
Is that the one where Bruce has the personal forcefield set up to blow up an innocent person if Superman gets too close to him? (and then we find out at the end the innocent person was Batman himself?)
The Grandmaster's daughter, though I forget her name. Victory? (Sounds legit, I think the character was meant as a parody of the Justice League character Triumph.)
hahaha he might as well be, but no the answer is....
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
The Grandmaster's daughter, though I forget her name. Victory? (Sounds legit, I think the character was meant as a parody of the Justice League character Triumph.)
Voyager actually, but close enough! Over to you, CMK!
When the Thing retrurned to Earth after the Secret Wars, most of Earth's heroes were battling an invasion of Dire Wraiths, but not Reed and Sue Richards. Who were they fighting instead?
Ooh, that's a tricky one - for me at least. I remember the Secret Wars at least and how Ben stayed behind, and his "break-up" with Johnny over Alicia and with Reed over the loss of his human side. Who did they fight? The only one I can think of is that confrontation with Dr Doom that ended in his death (apparently).
Raz is correct, it was Mephisto! (It actually tied in to the Dire Wraiths invasion, because their evil was powering him, and when Rom and the heroes defeated them, Mephisto's power suddenly dropped.)
Oof good guess! I couldn't think of any other bad guys Reed & Sue fought on their own without the FF there before they joined the Avengers for 5 minutes...
Speaking of which, which villain/s were responsible for Reed and Sue Richards joining the Avengers?
Ah Nanny, one of the more disturbing villains out there. But there are a lot of disturbing villains out there so…
Let’s see…
In the Red Winter storyline, several Justice League reservists are called in. League charter said that active members take priority re leadership. Which league member had to lead the reserves ?
Nope, Ice was on leave of absence then, and Rocket Red was not an active member at this time
In the Red Winter storyline, several Justice League reservists are called in. League charter said that active members take priority re leadership. Which league member had to lead the reserves ?
In the Red Winter storyline, several Justice League reservists are called in. League charter said that active members take priority re leadership. Which league member had to lead the reserves ?
Not:
Roy Harper Ice Rocket Red Guy Gardner Captain Atom Power Girl
Crimson Fox was the only active Leaguer available then, so they had her lead the Reserves.
instead, Crimson Fox figured out that Sonar was spying on them using transmitters hidden in their costumes... so she ditched her costume and made her way onwards to Moscow. unfortunately, she also ditched the Reserves, who were (mostly) captured and brainwashed.
here's a breakdown of the involved heroes in Red Winter
Sonar takes advantage of the break-up of the Soviet Union to take control of Russia. He brainwashes former JL member Rocket Red. Rocket Red captures Flash (Wally West) and Doctor Light (Kimiyo Hoshi), who are also brainwashed.
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) fights the Rocket Reds and goes amnesiac, but his ring transports him to safety.
Aquaman and Power Girl go to Atlantis, to ostensibly lead an Atlantean embassy to Russia.
Elongated Man is put into a coma by Sonar's weapons in Modora, and Sue Dibny pretends to cozy up to Sonar while biding time.
That left Crimson Fox to lead a bunch of Reserves on a fact-finding mission to Russia: Metamorpho, Tasmanian Devil, Huntress (Helena Bertinelli), Black Canary, Mister Miracle, Blue Jay, General Glory. (The Justice League America are temporarily unavailable due to the Death of Superman/Doomsday attack). The Reserves are aided by the Justice Society (Green Lantern - Alan Scott, Flash - Jay Garrick, Wildcat, Atom - Al Pratt, Dr. Mid-nite), but eventually all are captured (except the unconscious Blue Jay; Jay Garrick had started shaking Wally out of his brainwashing, and Wally throws the unconscious Blue Jay off into the air so he has an excuse to escape from Sonar).
**continuity is a bit iffy here, as the Justice League Europe are also seen attending Superman's funeral around this time, in other books...
Wally hooks up with Maya (first appearance), who is escaping from her family. The Justice League America branch also shows up (Wonder Woman, Fire, Guy Gardner, Booster Gold, Maxima, Bloodwynd, Agent Liberty).
**Again, continuity is a bit iffy here - Fire is shown with her powers, which she lost fighting Doomsday; Bloodwynd's dialogue implies that Booster Gold's suit and gadgets have been destroyed, but he still wears his suit and is shown in the big fight scenes; Blue Beetle and Ice are correctly absent; and Guy Gardner should have been elsewhere around this time.
Crimson Fox also gets the Global Guardians to join the League (Sonar had fooled them into thinking the League were illegally interfering with Russian politics... huh that sounds familiar!)
The storyline ends with a sound (heh) defeat of Sonar; Aquaman stepping down; and Maya, Metamorpho and Tasmanian Devil all joining the JL Europe, which becomes JL International.
OK, I'll cave. The poem is If by Rudyard Kipling. The lines relevant to the story are the last four.
I'll stick with my Barry Allen theme, though. Iris Allen was (believed) killed by Reverse-Flash at a costume party. What costume was she wearing? (Barry was "disguised" as the Flash.)
It was in fact the first time Hawkeye met Two-Gun Kid!
So we got Thor and Hawkeye, there's one more....I will give y'all a clue, she was a lady Avenger (and there are not a lot of women members to chose from at this stage in their publishing)
She left the team pretty much as soon as they got back from the Wild West, which was a shame...I think she and Hellcat would have made interesting long-term additions!
You do know your Power Pack! Next question to you, raz!
(Julie at least declared the name herself when she got the new powers. I don't recall Jack ever using the name "Counterweight", though, I think it was only ever used in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe. At the very least, it appeared in the Handbook at least a year before it might have appeared in a real story.)
In JLE #11, Metamorpho turns himself into gold and proceeds to beat the crap out of Guy (although he does also admit that any Green Lantern with half a brain could probably have come up with a way to stop him as gold isn't a particularly strong metal).
You nearly got the home run IB but I will give it to stile as he came up with the exact answer...good work y'all!
Rolf Heimlich is appointed UN Liaison to the JLI branches. Heimlich is secretly Queen Bee's drone, and tries to subtly undermine the League. Captain Atom is fired for insubordination; and is replaced by Blue Jay - much to everyone's surprise, including Blue Jay's!
Elongated Man and Blue Beetle are fired for being "useless" and incompetent, while Ice is fired for being too "shy" and "passive" to be a hero.
Rolf was a fairly convincing mole, as his reasons for firing the four were actually above-board and reasonable. He even replaced Ice and Beetle with Dr. Light and Tasmanian Devil, to keep the JLA from being shorthanded,
It was affirmative action! They did some interesting stuff with Sam feeling a bit out of his depth and tokenistic, but he showed that he deserved his place on the team IMO
Hal was the first hero revealed to be turned. When Andrew Bennett came to warn the Justice League, Hal revealed himself and murdered Andrew... plus witness Zan.
I was perhaps cheating a bit since most would naturally think of Kara, but yes this was from the post-Crisis era where Supergirl is an artificial protoplasmic being from the Pocket Universe, and is in a relationship with Lex Luthor Jr, the supposed long lost son and heir of the original deceased Lex Luthor.
Decades past but if anyone didn't know Junior was actually the original Lex's brain in a cloned body.
Matrix discovered that Lex had used samples of her protoplasm to create numerous copies of herself, several distorted in disturbing weaponised ways. The clones appeared not yet "born" and in a rage at his apparent betrayal Matrix destroys them.
During Blok's tryout facing a room full of massive cylinders trying to crush him, he succeeds by simply walking through and the test is powerless to stop him. What non-Legion character faces a similar challenge and again succeeds by simply walking through without being stopped?
Yay raz! As it happens I had read the Kitty Pryde story before I read the Blok story and the comparison struck me instantly. The cover date of the two comics is only a month apart with X-Men #141 being January 1981 and LSH #272 being February 1981, so it appears that similar ideas just happened to occur to the various writers.
If everyone kept thinking of other strong unstoppable characters I was going to give a clue of their power sets being almost opposite, but raz didn't need that clue!
I had no idea Blok and Kitty got introduced so close together! For some reason I always thought Blok came along much later! Good pick, stile!
While we are on the topic of similarities across different comic book companies....one writer took his pet character's story across THREE separate comic book companies. Who was the writer, which comic book companies were they and who was the character?
Thanks, Raz. FTR, I almost used the DC version of Mantis (Willow,) in a fan fic. I might still do it someday.
Question: In the original West Coast Avengers miniseries by Roger Stern, Bob Hall, and Brett Breeding, which villainess did Tigra disguise herself as in order to help defeat Graviton?
Let's stick with Tigra as she is one of my favourite and most underrated Avengers...who was the first villain that Greer Grant Nelson and Spider-Man teamed up to defeat?
Was there a mouse or a dog… oh, Kraven the Hunter?
IB has it! Kraven put Tigra in a mind-control collar and sicced her on Spidey, figuring that one of them would kill the other and then the survivor would be wracked with guilt...I am sure Squirrel Girl would have given him a very stern talking to!
nope! while Guy Gardner probed Rocket Red's mind, Red was unconscious at the time - Guy first explicitly undid the brainwashing of another Reservist.
Recap
In Red Winter, Sonar captures and brainwashes a bunch of Justice League Reservists. Who was the first one freed of their brainwashing?
- a male hero - this was likely to set this character up for a major development! - which happened in the same issue - not: General Glory, Guy Gardner (not brainwashed), Power Girl (not brainwashed), Black Canary, Rocket Red
In Red Winter, Sonar captures and brainwashes a bunch of Justice League Reservists. Who was the first one freed of their brainwashing?
- a male hero - this was likely to set this character up for a major development! - which happened in the same issue, and together with Metamorpho - not: General Glory, Guy Gardner (not brainwashed), Power Girl (not brainwashed), Black Canary, Rocket Red, Animal Man (did not appear), Metamorpho, Captain Atom (did not appear)
Nope, Flash did shake off the brainwashing earlier - but he was an active League member, not a Reservist
what other clues will help... this character, earlier in the issue, went head-to-head with Wonder Woman - which was likely one of the reasons this character was freed from brainwashing first (apart from, well, proximity)
we're getting further afield with these last two. this character joined the JLE team in that issue, helping turn it into a JLI with its expanded scope and manpower
Metamorpho and Maya joined alongside him.
this character was previously already a Justice League member, briefly, in the Giffen era.
While brainwashed, Taz was already being set up for greatness - we see him taking on Wonder Woman, and Diana commenting on how surprisingly strong Taz is. we evne get a panel of Taz smashing Diana into the ground.
Guy Gardner probes the mind of an unconscious, still brain-washed Rocket Red, and uses that to un-brainwash Taz (the first one he frees in this way).
After Sonar is defeated, Aquaman resigns. Hal remarks that the League loses a lot of strength... and Taz raises his hand, saying he has plenty of strength!
Other Reserves brainwashed include Black Canary, Huntress, General Glory, Metamorpho. Blue Jay escapes brainwashing because Flash (Wally) was resisting his OWN brainwashing (with a nudge from Jay Garrick), and tosses an unconscious Blue Jay away, pretending that Blue Jay is escaping. Mister Miracle manages to escape from the brainwashing machine first.
Wally and Dr. Light (Kimiyo) also get brainwashed, but were full League members as of this story. JSA members Alan Scott, Jay Garrick, Wildcat, Al Pratt and Charles McNider also get brainwashed.
the JL America (Guy, Fire, Booster Gold, Wonder Woman, Bloodwynd, Maxima, Agent Liberty) guest star, but are not brainwashed in this story. Aquaman is captured and Elongated Man injured and Hal Jordan turned amnesiac, but not brainwashed. Sonar coerces Sue into coming to his side (with E-Man's life as a trade), but Sue only pretends to go along and is undermining Sonar from within.
Crimson Fox and Power Girl round out the cast of full JL members, and Maya is introduced.
I remember it well. I've read that comic many times, how the Manhunters had hoped to capture the infant Kal-El but failed and so set up numerous unwitting sleeper agents in Smallville to monitor him and follow him across the world, most notably Lana Lang, and now those agents - more than half the town - appeared dead. It took Spectre to discover that they were not truly dead but rather it was a ruse to keep Superman busy and unable to interfere with their plans during Millennium.
Crazy fun story. And in a side item, while recapping the events leading up to Millennium in that so convenient way heroes used to do in their thoughts, Spectre thinks of the many heroes defending the new chosen ones as a "veritable Legion of Super-Heroes".
In the Ultimate Universe the Maker (Reed Richards) is defeated and surrendered by his "people" in the City thanks to the convincing arguments by "Anthony", Tony Stark's sentient brain tumour. Yet later The Maker escapes and with Pietro, Hulk and Kang takes over the world and discovers the explanation behind Tony's brain tumour. What is that explanation?
Yeah the sentient brain tumour was a pretty wild idea. Ever since the first Ultimates comic we knew that it was because Tony had been diagnosed with an incurable brain tumour that he had gone down the Iron Man path along with increasing donations to charities etc. He wanted to do something meaningful with the time head left. Since he continued to survive over the years, by the time of this series the question of what was happening was discussed, and according to Tony he decided to stop any treatment and see what happened - and what happened was his tumour started talking to him. Only he could see it (it appeared as a young pre-teen boy) but he could give it access to various computers etc so it became a kind of co-pilot and additional genius. This is definitely weird and finally towards the end of the Ultimate Comics Ultimates series in 2013 we were given an explanation.
The explanation involves things or people or aliens or events etc that are well known in the Marvel Universe so that's why I thought it might work as a trivia question, so throw us your wild theories.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
Good spot on The Spectre's Legion name drop, stile There's a lost Tale of the Legion where Kid Spectre joins the team.
Horror stories would have the brain tumour as actually an unborn twin, whose intelligence has survived.
Kid Spectre? I'd read that. Good guess but no it is not an unborn twin.
ooh was it the Supreme Intelligence? It sounds like some kind of crazy SI shenanigans!
Not the Supreme Intelligence.
Originally Posted by thoth lad
The tumour is Tony Stark! Trapped in a Life Model Decoy!
Great idea but no.
Some wonderful ideas here. The cause is actually something that has become somewhat topical in recent years, and not just in the comics. Oh and it's not really a brain tumour (if the sentient bit didn't give it away).
When stile said "The cause is actually something that has become somewhat topical in recent years, and not just in the comics." I thought he meant in a mainstream news sort of way. Not just in another Marvel medium. That's why I live in the Tangent universe I guess.
Yes! It was an infinity gem. Not sure which one (they didn't get individualised so much in Ultimate Universe) but Pietro sliced open Tony's head to find it and Maker performed brain surgery to remove it, while keeping tony alive and conscious - mostly so he could boast I think, since as soon as he was finished extracting and boasting he snipped the appropriate thing killing Tony. (Tony survived but that's another story.)
Some great ideas from all of you with this one. Great fun. Your turn Ibby.
I thought that you might have been referring to the Stalker story. I loved the structure of it, and I love James Robinson's handle on the breadth of DC history, though it's never nice to see a heroic character get turned into a villain.
There were two long-running DC team-up books that ended in the early-to-mid 1980s. Brave & Bold, featuring Batman and a guest (or team of guests), and DC Comics Presents featuring Superman and a guest (or team). Who was the guest in the last issue of each of these series?
No it was not. The two books' cancellations weren't connected. They didn't end at the same time - Brave and Bold ended in 1983, when it was replaced in the monthly roster by Batman and the Outsiders, while DC Comics Presents continued until right before Man of Steel rebooted the Superman books in 1986.
There were two long-running DC team-up books that ended in the early-to-mid 1980s. Brave & Bold, featuring Batman and a guest (or team of guests), and DC Comics Presents featuring Superman and a guest (or team). Who was the guest in the last issue of each of these series?
I'm still reading a fair number of '80s comics. So all I have to do is close my eyes and... picture the final issue of World's Finest...bah!
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
No it was not. The two books' cancellations weren't connected. They didn't end at the same time - Brave and Bold ended in 1983, when it was replaced in the monthly roster by Batman and the Outsiders, while DC Comics Presents continued until right before Man of Steel rebooted the Superman books in 1986.
In one of the Outsiders TPBs, it was said that four Bat-books were a requirement for a foreign licensing deal. When B&B was slated to go, BatO became the repalcement. The replacement would have been a Bat-book of some sort.
B&B was before my time reading DC, and before the time where I could pick them up as recent-ish issues from older newsstands.
DC Comics Presents, like Worlds Finest was never towards the top of my pile. There was a mix in quality in the scripts/ concepts/ I think my first DC Presents issue had the Forgotten Villains/ Heroes. There was no Crisis crossover on the cover, even though it does lead into it. I had no idea. That had Swan art, when I was probably thinking it looked a little dated inside, others had Aparo and Kirby art, when I wasn;t that aprreciative of it. I'd pick up the odd issue of DC Presents, if that's what was left.
The Crisis crossovers seemed a bit meh and fuill of hasty foreshadowing. My first guess for this was going to be the Post Crisis issue, where Harbinger, Quark and Pariah are involved. Great Perez cover. Meh apart from that. But I'd have recalled that as the last issue. So, I'm having to have a think. I don;t think this is right, but I'm going to go with Hawkman in a Shadow War follow up crossover.
As for B&B, i imagine it was something fitting for the book to go out on. So, was it someone like Catwoman?
DC Comics Presents: DC would have had some inventory around. There was time to have things like Moore's Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? As DC Presents had a popular Whatever happened to in-series, that would have been a good fit for this title. upergirl would have been well before the post crisis issue, so I'll go for something else in-keeping and say Jimmy Olsen.
None correct so far, but thoth's ideas are pretty close. DC Comics Presents's last issue guest was someone (or someones) who were very connected to Superman, and while Joker wasn't the guest - or the villain - in the B&B finale, a Joker (hint there) appears in the story.
B&B: no idea but - it wasn;t that whatever happened equivalent story? Did it have a mystical character like Phantom Stranger? DCP: Has Supergirl been eliminated - sorry poor choice of words - this wasn't the story where Supes finds out that his cousin had been secretly married on an alien world?
B & B - Not a "Whatever Happened" equivalent. The Phantom Stranger did not appear. DCP - Supergirl had not been eliminated, but I'll say now that it wasn't her, and it is not a story in which he finds out she was secretly married on an alien world.
DCP - The last issue would have been a decent while after Kara's death, and that little rush to get in a few last adventures. Lois was going to be my next guess. I remember a late one with Captain Atom. Memorable as this was post Crisis, but before Cap's relaunch. Not very Superman though, so I'll guess The Kent's.
B&B - With the clue of a Joker, and with this being earlier than Crisis, I'll go with the Huntress, reminding Earth-1 Batman of her dead father. The Huntress had a Levitz back up series for quite a while.
OK, I'm going to simplify this. I thought this was an era that posters here had a lot of knowledge about, but perhaps this was too obscure.
DCCP - The final issue was a Pre-Crisis tale featuring Superman and the Phantom Zone Villains. It was sort of a last tale of the Phantom Zone, about how Jor-El's exiling of criminals to there affected the original inhabitant.
As for B & B, I'll still wait for someone to get the right answer. But I'll throw out a hint - the co-star was actually deceased in the present (as of that issue) time, the "team up" was really more of a parallel story.
Ah, the Phantom Zone! I might have got there, in time to watch Lar get freed from it Definitely in keeping with the move to Byrne's version. A nice we'd off concept.
B&B could well be Earth-2 Batman. He died in the late 70s on Earth-2.
That's the correct answer! The final issue was Earth-1 Batman and Earth-2 Batman. The Earth-2 Batman portion was an adventure that took place in the Golden Age (and illustrated appropriately in the style of the era) against a newly-created period villain, who fell into a coma at the end of the adventure. He woke up in the present day as an old man in prison hospital and was informed by an aged Earth-2 Joker that Batman was dead. He somehow took over the mind of his Earth-1 counterpart (I don't remember exactly how he was able to do that), a fine, upstanding citizen, in order to get his revenge against Batman (albeit the Batman of Earth-1).
Thanks for the tip that the character was deceased at that time CMK! I was guess everyone around him, because of that point. Good question. I read a lot of '80s DC, but those are 2 I don;t think I've read.
I didn't get to this thread in Time. I remember B&B 200 with the two Batman (and the BatO preview) but I don't think I would have gotten the Phantom Zone Criminals from DCP even though I skimmed through it about a month ago. I own physical copies of both.
I know that this character has appeared in Spectre comics. And the character is portrayed as less powerful than Fate or Spectre. But, y'know with mystic things, as powerful as needed at times.
Zatanna close and Constantine in the same area too.
But it was Madame Xanadu! The lead was an Englehart and Rogers story. DC presumably used the success of their Batman run to conclude that this story, scheduled for a cancelled title, would work far better in the direct market.
You know, I recall that she had a one-shot self-titled comic, but I don't think I had realized that it was direct market, much less their first. Great question.
Whom did the Fantastic Four help Doctor Doom depose from the throne of Latveria to restore Doom to power?
Nope. I'll throw this out there - the person is not another super-villain. He was simply a member of pre-Doom Latverian royal family. But I thought some here might know the name.
Hmm...tougher than I realized, I thought we had some Byrne-era FF fans on board. If no one has anything by tomorrow morning, I'll come up with a new question.
Nope, Kristoff was introduced during the story I'm referencing and when the forces of that other ruler killed his mother, Doom adopted him. It was only after that that Kristoff usurped Doom's throne.
Keeping with the F4 theme, but exploring the Post-Byrne years...in the late 80s, an F4 writer misguidedly decided there should be a She-Thing. Her name was Sharon Ventura. After this writer was replaced by the great Walter Simonson, Sharon's transformation was thankfully undone.
About time my melodrama lessons started paying off
Okay, next question!
The New Mutants (as the name would suggest) are a team of mutant kids that Professor X took into his school during one of the thousands of times the X-Men were presumed dead.
Warlock is one of the New Mutants, and he's also one of a race of techno-organic aliens who all share the same standard techno-organic abilities.
Warlock also has a mutant power though which is unique among his race as far as we know.....what is Warlock's mutant ability?
I'm gonna give it to CMK...in the 80s Fallen Angels miniseries they said his mutation was the ability to feel compassion, which really feels like the ultimate asspull to justify him being on a mutant team, but it is what it is I guess! All yours, Chaim!
For Elongated Man's birthday, Sue Dibny once pretended she was kidnapped. Sue pretended to be Ice... name one clue that made Ralph realize that Ice was actually Sue.
good enough! he never saw Ice using her powers... and when confronted by a runaway toy train, Ice used oil to make it run off the tracks. The real Ice would ahve just used her powers!
Also, Ice was being too quiet, even for Ice... she didn't say a word!
Jimmy Olsen has found an ancient prophecy from Nostradamus that says that if he combines the tears of a clown, a killer, a king, and a Kryptonian he will gain a mysterious power. For the Kryptonian he seeks out his "pal" Superman. How does he make him cry?
Bonus question: the killer and the king are interesting but one-offs but what well known DC character is the clown?
Exploiting his friendship with his pal, Jimmy summons Superman with his watch and then gets Supers to take him to his Fortress where he takes him before the memorial to Jor-El and Lara, but is shocked when Superman doesn't get upset. Superman explains that today is the anniversary of the destruction of Krypton and he had already remembered that by watching time movies of the event and was all cried out. jimmy apologises but then sees amongst Supes films another to show him, a documentary of his time in Smallville. This does the rick although Jimmy doesn't realise that what really did it was an image of the Kents' graves.
Adding Superman's tears to a test tube containing those he had already collected, Jimmy is disappointed to find that all he has is a glowing tube like a light bulb. Superman examines it while suggesting that to anyone from Nostradamus time a glowing tube truly was a spectacular power. Jimmy is disgusted and lets Suiperman have it. After returning Jimmy to Metropolis, Superman flies to a deserted region and detonates the tube revealing that it contained an incredibly powerful radioactive potential too powerful for anyone on Earth to have. Somehow his "super tears" empowered the others. Wonderful Silver Age nonsense.
Did Jimmy feel an ounce of guilt for exploiting Superman like that? maybe not, but whew that was the Silver Age indeed
let's see...
The Lost Lanterns were a bunch of Green Lanterns thought dead during Hal Jordan's first rampage to Oa. Many of them turned up alive, kidnapped by the Manhunters. Which of the Lost Lanterns died during their rescue?
I just don't know the names of many of the non-Earth GLs. How about that orange-skinned guy with the fin head and beak? Sometimes an archivist I think?
No, nothing tricky like that. This hero routinely wore roller skates as part of his or her costume. I'll throw out a little hint - the hero wore them (but routinely a part of his or her stories) not for skating on terra firma, but for navigating a different kind of surface.
I don't know that it was a regular mode or not. I remember that one issue of teen titans because a friend had it and I read it repeatedly (It's actually where I learned the Guggenheim existed). I think I remember her skating up the side of a building but couldn't swear to it. I can wait to see if someone else comes up with it.
On the topic of GA heroes, which pair of DC characters were irradiated while working on the Manhattan Project, so that they had to spend 35 years in an underground bunker?
It is indeed TNT and Dan the Dyna-Mite, as per Super Friends #12 from 1978! This was the first time the characters had been seen since their relatively short GA run!
Thanks. I first saw them in All-Star squadron, and didn't know they'd been published a few years before.
In Alan Davis' The Nail, who was revealed to be the main villain? For those who haven't read it, the nail in question punctures a tyre on the Kent's truck. They choose not to go out, on the day Kal-El's rocket lands.
It is not Lex Luthor. The plot begins to suggest he will be, but he's a pawn of someone else.
Ollie Queen was badly injured in a JLA battle. The trauma turned him against his colleagues. That supported the narrative the main villain wanted out there.
He received powers after other parties experimented with the rocket they found, on Olsen's already (Elastic Lad/ Turtle Boy) altered genetic structure. For a moment there was a tease of it being Starro, that turned out to be a mutated Krypto.
In the JLA’s 200th issue, the story featured seven fights between a founding member of the team and a post-founding member. One of these match-ups had the founding member fighting two non-founding members. Who were the heroes in that fight?
Black Canary and Green Arrow were the non-founding members; they fought Batman, and it was all beautifully drawn by Brian Bolland. Ollie was actually not a member at that moment, he just tagged along. But by the end of the issue, the others convinced him to rejoin the team.
JLA 200 is one of my favorite superhero comics ever published.
Correct, Ann! It's one of those perfect anniversary issues, up there with LSH # 300. However, I'm pretty sure it was Trevor von Eeden who drew the Batman vs GA/BC chapter.
In one of the most celebrated issues of Peter David's first X-Factor run, each team member has a therapy session with Doc Samson. During Quicksilver's session, the feisty speedster puts together all the pieces of a puzzle. What animal is prominently featured in the puzzle?
Sticking with Peter David...in Young Justice # 2, Young Justice saves Ali Ben Styn and he promises them anything they request as a reward. Impulse, true to his name, runs forward and makes the request. What did he ask for?
I'll throw out another hint: the requested item was delivered about two years later, just when Young Justice needed such an item for their impending adventure. In pure Peter David fashion, it was deleverd by "Fedeux ex Machina".
Ibby has it, it was a spaceship! Doiby Dickles had just come to Young Justice for help in taking the Planet Myrg back from its conquerors, and though the team was eager to do so, Robin pointed out, "How would we possibly get there?" Suddenly, ("Fedeus Ex Machina") they get a delivery of a spaceship, which Impulse reveals he had asked Ali Ben Styn for way back in that earlier issue.
KK, they did have a Super-Cycle, but it wasn't the gift from Ali Ben Styn, they sort of "won" it from its previous owner. It wasn't the same one the Forever People used, but a member of the same "species"...after leaving Myrg, they met the Forever People and the two vehicles mated and produced a child (in classic Peter David absurdism).
yeah I seemed to remember reading about that spaceship suddenly appearing when they needed it most! nice Q!
let's see... during Red Winter, the Justice Society showed up to reinforce the Justice League Reserves. The Society members were split on whether to enter Russia or not. Which Society member gave the tie-breaking vote?
during Red Winter, the Justice Society showed up to reinforce the Justice League Reserves. The Society members were split on whether to enter Russia or not. Which Society member gave the tie-breaking vote?
Not:
Jay Garrick Hawkman Alan Scott Wildcat Spectre Johnny Thunder
you got it! Charles McNider was the tie-breaking vote; he argued that the Justice Society could have prevented many deaths had they acted more quickly during, say, World War II.
Thoth has is close enough. It was from an issue of Ambush Bug and has stuck with me since I read it in the eighties. He turned to crime and took the name Villian the Villain so people would learn to spell villain correctly.
Thoth has is close enough. It was from an issue of Ambush Bug and has stuck with me since I read it in the eighties. He turned to crime and took the name Villian the Villain so people would learn to spell villain correctly.
Yay! And they said over-reading of Ambush Bug would never amount to anything!