I have to say these two comics have been great so far! Probably the most interesting and well-written they've been since the mid-90's, when the Superman comics were a beacon of excellence in a sea of mediocracy.

Great story, great dialogue, great art, great Lois Lane (when the fans don't like Lois--the Superman books are not good, its a proven fact). I really like what's happening with Lex Luthor and the villains.

Now, something I want to point out to certain posters: the Ray (Ray Terrill) and Dr. Light are seen in a flashback in Action Comics, as seen here. So Star Boy and Invisible Brainiac, I hope we'll see more of these two beloved characters!

I haven't picked up either title (well, I pick them up and thumb through as long as I can without feeling guilty for not buying them). Are the stories in the two titles independent or so intertwined that you have to buy (or thumb though) both titles?

So far their inertwined for an eight parter (four issues each) and then they'll be seperate. At this point though, each story has really been a 'done in one' so you can read it without reading the larger story.

I bought the issues that had Hal Jordan - it was fun seeing Hal and Clark together (and Hawkgirl to boot -- I wonder if the Hakwgirl/ GL pairing was influenced by JLU?)

Here's hoping indeed! Was there anything but that one page? When's it set? 'One Year Before'?

To me it looks like panel 1 is the climax of Inf Crisis 7. And the rest of the page is Week 1/2 of the missing year.

Could Ray be "Supernova"?

when did the Ray become super-intelligent? I don't remember him as brainy when I had the issues (all of them #0 to 28)???hmmm??? anyway, nice to see him and hopefully to see him in the near future. Two Rays running around? hmmm..

People reading this at all still?

I think this has been the best Superman story since the early 90's! I'm actually hooked on Superman comics again, which is shocking. His entire return, from the heart-breaking moment that Clark has to slip into the 'mild-mannered' role again, to Jimmy's possible death spurring him on has been great.

His words to Luthor were powerful--he had a whole year without Superman and he still wasted it. Luthor's old arguement is seen for what it is: garbage.

Lois has been perfect. As she should be, and still entertaining as ever.

Jimmy diving to shield Superman was perfect too. Despite all his flaws he still loves the big guy most of all and would do anything for him.

The other villains have been great too.

John's presence is felt throughout, and Busiek excels like he did a few years ago. B/t this and Aquaman, he's definately back to 100%. The art has been very enjoyable too.

I think the real Superman is here.

Hey Cobie, I totally agree. This has been the best Superman Story in years. This is the real Superman.

And lets not forget the art by Pete Woods and the other guy that I can't remember his name... awesome stuff. Great storytelling and such a great dreamy quality about it.

Superman and Action have been great!

It was [b]so good[/i], I'm just floored. I mean, I don't even like Superman!! But this-- this was great!! Geoff does it again, man. Absolutely amazing. The whole thing was just... just... right!

I was wary when I first picked it up but the pacing was just perfect. Hell, everything was perfect. If anybody other than Geoff had done it, I would've doubted the ending could live up to the climax or that the ends would get tied together well enough but... just... damn.

*fangirls s'more*

I might just have to read the follow-up, too!! Even though it's not Geoff... I can finally see why people like Superman. I never got it before. But this-- the thing with Luthor and the Intergang stuff tied in with the Planet and Lois-- it was great. Couldn't have been better. Really.

Which made no sense - the way for Clark to arouse least suspicion would be to continue to act exactly the same way.

After all, the best case scenario if he acts different when Superman's not around to when he is, even if he doesn't make people suspicious that he is Superman, he'll make people think Superman's putting the squeeze on him or he's hiding something otherwise shady. Which should be a ticket to unemployment.

Read like a straw man to me - I don't recall Luthor ever saying anything like that.

Sounds like a fairly good story, though. And thanks for the link to the page, Cobie

Here's hoping that when DC's fixed everything, Doctor Light's depowerment will be just a memory...

'Boot, Luthor has said that to death in the late 90's/early 00's...I'll find some examples for you.

And your arguement is pretty hard to beat for the Clark/Superman stuff, but I still thought it was a powerful moment. Not logical per se, but powerful and very in the tradition of Superman.

All I know is that I haven't been this happy with the Superman titles in awhile. What a great conculsion and a way to get back everything we have alwyas loved about Superman.

The Superman books have sucked since about 1997-8. And they had an awesome couple year run right before that. I'm pleased beyond belief at the change in direction.

I'd reccomend them to anyone right now (including Reboot ).

Might explain it. The Loeb/McGuinness et al teams chased me away (I'd still like to see examples tho )

Yeah, that was a *tough* era of Superman. But the Luthor motivation thing stems from there. I'll find some examples...just in my usual time frame of replying to such things

(I know, I know, it takes days to get a reply from me...forgive me population of LW!)

I'm disappointed that Clark is meek again. I kinda thought they were going to take him in a the crusading reporter direction. Reading the first couple issues, I hoped that they'd riff off those old Mr. & Mrs. Superman backup stories where Clark's career kinda blossomed after Superman disappeared for a year.

Come to think of it, I'd love to see Showcase Presents: Mr. and Mrs. Superman. Its going to be years before the Superman Family reprints get up there though. Though I'm hoping the pure stupidity unadulterated with realism that is Superman's Girlfriend: Lois Lane will keep me amused.

I thought the parallel between this week's 52, which basically shows Clark adopting the "crusading reporter" persona, and this week's "Superman", which deals with his adopting his "meek" persona, was kind of neat.

Just read Superman #654 by Busiek and Pacheco. I think it was the first Superman comic I've read since that time he died. And before that I read some of Byrne's Superman. In other words in the last 20 years I've read a dozen Supers comics. He never did it for me.

This was good. I'm a HUGE fan of Pacheco (and Kurt) so I decided to give this a try.

Legion related small spoilers. We get introduced the Science Police. They are technology cops in Metropolis. They help Superman against Neutron. Guy made of energy in a suit. The word ERG was mentioned. Nice Legion tip of the hat.

I know Kurt and Carlos are both big fans of the Legion. Wouldn't mind them on the title personally.

Also I enjoy Kurt's use of first person narrative with Clark. Does a good job of showing him do some streaming in his mind.

Kurt and Carlos' run on Superman has been very enjoyable so far. And Kurt's story in Action Comics is a lot of fun too--in my mind, Superman post-IC is the most fun its been in nearly a decade.

Loving in Action how Kurt is using Nightwing, Firestorm and some others, while still showing why Clark is the 'big guy'.

So we had the first Johns/Donner issue last week.

It was okay, but not anything spectacular. We'll see what happens with the kid.

It's pure set-up. Not terribly exciting but it got the job done.

The Kents didn't look quite right to me, though. Can't put my finger on why exactly.

Anyone still reading?

The Johns/Donner arc has gotten better than I've expected, but its moving along pretty slow.

Busiek on Superman is...okay. Actually, while the writing/pacing/art has been really great, the actual story itself just isn't grabbing me. And the Lois/Clark interaction seems very off. I can't really reccomend it.

Supergirl remains atrocious.

I haven't picked a Superman title up for awhile. It was pretty cool at the beginning of OYL, but I lost interest, especially with issues delayed and such...

Figured I'd update the title of this thread to reflect the new status quo.

I've got to say, quite suddenly I'm enjoying the Superman titles more than I have in years! The writing just seems to be clicking for me across the board. And the growing cast of characters and subplots is also working very well. I’m reading all three Super-books among the first comics I get each week now. I haven’t done that since the 90’s.

Supergirl has suddenly gone from DC’s worst comic to one of the most enjoyable out there. Sterling Gates has made Kara likeable and relatable, woven a great mystery with ‘Who is Superwoman?’, made the series connect to the Superman books but stand out completely as Kara’s title and has given Lana Lang and meaningful role for the first time since…oh, the 1960’s?

I’m actually pretty excited about where all three of these are heading, and I’ve been a pretty anti-DC person for several months now (don’t get me started on the Bat-books).

As I'm sure you can imagine, I'm picking up Action, Superman and Supergirl.

Supergirl has been a struggle from the start but the recent stories have finally seemed to hit a stride. Kara is finally someone likable as Cobie says.

Of course, I have ulterior motives for picking up Action & Superman now though I can honestly say that I have never collected either (except for Action when the Legion was the back up story!)

Mon is back! And I'm doing back flips.

I'm a little worried about how they may screw up his history but I'll wait to see how it plays out before I get too worked up. For example, how does he overcome the lead poisoning for an extended period? We know that Superman never came up with a way of curing Lar. That has to wait for Irma and eventually Brainy. But if he can now stay outside the Zone for extended periods of time why would he have to go back in and remain for a thousand years? If he doesn't, it takes away a very important component of what makes Mon such a unique & tragic character.

But it's more than just Lar's presence that has me picking Action & Superman up.

The Guardian is also back! One of my all time favorites. So far, I really like this version even though he's a clone (apparently) I'm looking forward to seeing his story play out. Will he connect with Roy? The original was Roy's revealed to have been Roy's uncle years ago. He also had a long history with Jimmy. And it would be fun to see a return of the Newsboy Legion

Finally, there's also Tellus which is very cool. How did he get here and what happens to him now? This is where I hope to get my quasi-Legion fix for a while once Lo3W concludes.

All in all, I give em all a thumbs up!

Oh I forgot...there's also the appearance of the new Nightwing & Flamebird. A pair that I've always had a soft spot for, though I regret the loss of Dick as Nightwing. I'll be curious to see how this all plays out.

Hey, did any pickup the latest issues of Action and see who Nightwing and Flamebird really are?

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> its Thara- the security chief and Supergirls former BFF as Flamebird and a rapidly aging Christopher Kent himself as Nightwing</span></span>

More than a bit underwhelming as far as revelations go, but the story in the issue itself was good enough to keep me buying for a bit.

Kryptonions pretending not to be Kryptonion could make for some fun situations. We'll see.

Greg Rucka, the writer, is also writing DETECTIVE COMICS. Which will soon feature the adventures of Kate Kane, Batwoman. And the future appearances of Bette Kane, who DC readers have known up to now as Flamebird. We'll see what name- if any- she'll be using as events progress.

I've got to say, the three Superman titles and Supergirl are all at the top of my read pile every month now. I'm enjoying more than I have since the mid-90's when they were the gold standard of comic books.

Each one is distinct and very well-done. I'm surprised I'm liking "Superman: New Krypton" as much as I am. And I'm shocked and delighted that Supergirl is this good.

Who would have thought the Superman books would be this much better than the current Batman books?

I guess I'm one of the few who preferred Joe Kelly's Supergirl but whatever. She's a favourite of mine I'm glad she's got more popular in general and the most important thing is to keep the title going. Not only for DC superheroines in general but as the character evolves she may become the confident and fearless character I've missed.

WORLD OF KRYPTON #4- I really like Tyr, the 'lowly' cast guy who acts as tour guide in this issue. His name's a bit alarming-- hope there's no gun-hand in his future.

I liked the varities of Krypton culture on display here and how it integrates depictions of the big K from its many eras in DC history.

The images of the work underway to terraform (wouldn't they call it kryptoform?) their world were quite beautiful. It's disturbing to view what they're accomplishing here alongside the machinations of Zod. Any people who'd place him in charge of anything has their issues, don't they?

Sounds familiar...

So I'm enjoying the Superman books so much, I think I'll probably pick up the World's Finest mini-series in October.

I'm actually hating the Batman books right now (though I'm looking forward to Detective with Batwoman). But I see it as DC's biggest loser of a sector in their line.

However, Sterling Gates is writing WF and he did the impossible and turned Supergirl into one of my favorite comics, so hell, I'd probably be checking out New Guardians if he wrote that. (big wink to you if you remember that awful series)

(and the crap "event"/mini that spawned it... :rolleyes: )

Batwoman in 'Tec is awesome, and I'm buying Streets of Gotham solely for the Kate Manhunter back-up. Sirens of Gotham is nice to look at...

Despite several rave review of Detective Comics, the Batman books still have Winnick on Batman and Damien as Robin, so I'm reading them all last in my huge pile of comics. The Superman books, however, have been suprisingly excellent for several months now, so I caught up with them.

Superman
Probably the best of the bunch (though Supergirl is giving it a run for its money) is Superman, featuring Mon-El, as well as Guardian and several others. Being a Legion fan I of course love Mon-El but I actually like how Robinson is using him. In a way it’s a tabula rasa regarding the human race and Earth, yet Mon also has a distinct sense of heroism that comes through. Guardian is great, but what I really like is the Tellus subplot and where that is going. I like how the two have developed a friendship. This is the first time Tellus has been used in over 20 years…its kind of cool.

Action Comics
At first I was a little ‘meh’ on Flamebird and Nightwing, and then even more so when I learned who they were. Yet Rucka has proven to me again that he’s one helluva writer because I’m actually starting to care about them, including Chris Kent, who I find almost as annoying as Damien in Batman. What’d one the trick is Annual #12, in which we get the full origin of them both and how they got to being Nightwing & Flamebird, and it really fleshed out both their characters in a terrific way. I’ve come to really like Thara Ak-Var, and am curious about how the “Flamebird” may or may not be Rao.

Supergirl
I’m still shocked at how this title turned around from the epitome of all things horrible at DC to one of DC’s best titles. For that Sterling Gates deserves a big raise, as well as everyone else involved. Supergirl is not only likeable, but she’s someone you can relate to now—a HUGE difference from a few years ago. She’s experienced the death of her father, the notion that she’s unwanted on both worlds while torn between them both, she’s lonely, sometimes isolated and is trying to find herself. All these things seem like they should have been there all along but for whatever reason were not. Her relationship with Superman has finally reached the point it should have always been while her relationship with Lana Lang has really helped the series tremendously. The Superwoman storyline was actually pretty fascinating too, and I don’t think we’ve seen the end of her. Reactron is getting a little annoying and I hope he gets some justice served up soon. The detective who was helping her was another great addition and I hope wakes up from his coma, as Supergirl having her own supporting cast is a must.

World of New Krypton
My CBS actually sold out of #3, so I’m waiting until I find a copy before I read #4. I hope them selling out of a Superman/GL guest appearance is a good sign of the industry.

What’s best about the titles is that each one now stands on its own but is very closely related to one another with several subplots running through them all. Specifically is the usage of General Lane, which at last is further explained, as well as Codename: Assassin. At first I didn’t really care for this, but Mssrs. Rucka, Robinson & Gates have changed my tune. They are doing a good job tying all the series together and furthering all the plotlines to a next place. There is a real feel of progression going on each issue that I find appealing. And the continued usage of Lois, the Daily Planet staff, Steel and several others is nice and reminiscent of the Silver Age in which various characters appear over a wide range of books, while some others are regulated to one title in particular. I also have marveled at how the writers have fleshed out the Kryptonians; not only Alura (and Zor-El previously), but Zod, Ursa, Non, the various guilds and so much more.

Captain Atom back-up in Action Comics
The Captain Atom also began in Action and its only a few issues. What Robinson & Rucka did was give me an immediate: WTF is going on here? Which is probably a good move to develop interest for Cap. My dad was a huge Steve Ditko fan from Spider-Man in the 60’s so when he returned to Charlton, my Dad became a huge Charlton fan and remains so to this day. Though Blue Beetle and the Question are his favorites, he also loves Captain Atom and that has translated to me somewhat as well, so I’m glad the Superman guys have picked up Cap, who is one of those woefully misused characters for decades now.

Well, even my back-up CBS was sold out of #4 so maybe thats a good sign for GL and Supes. Hopefully I'll be able to grab a copy somewhere soon.

In the meantime, I got tired of waiting and read #5 and I'm glad I did. I thought it was an excellent issue, the best so far in this series, and one of the best of the entire last two months.

It was a very good job at showing quite clearly the true heroism of Superman in a way that doesn't make him seem like a boy scout or out of date--and I love when writers are able to do that (like Joe Kelly did back in Action #775 a few years ago).

Robinson & Rucka also are doing something that didn't seem possible a year ago: they are making General Zod interesting and layered with motivations and the capability to change his mind and opinion. I like his continued growth here (and am interested to see how the surprise ending proceeds).

The guilds shown in WoNK have the potential to be a boring subplot but yet they are making it very interesting as well, so I like how they make it critical to the overall storyline but underplay it so you're not beaten over the head.

All in all, I say World of New Krypton is quite excellent.

I think World of New Krypton is decent. I'm not blown away, but there's enough good stuff going on and enough novelty in the concept of Supes being both just another guy while still proving himself exceptional here to keep me interested.

I'd say the best thing about this title is the Pete Woods art--some of the very best art currently appearing in a monthly comic! This guy's always been talented, but I think WoNK will be remembered as the title in which Woods took it to the next level!


Supergirl is the best of the bunch since Geoff left Action. I agree with everything Cobalt said about this. Sterling Gates and Jamal Igle deliver a good, strong read month after month. For Igle it's a career-defining work, just like Pete Woods stuff on WoNK. I've a feeling Gates will be DC's next big writer like his mentor Geoff Johns.

Superman is a decent comic but a little, well, boring I guess. The thing about it is that Robinson is stretching out his subplots month-in and month-out without much seeming to happen with them. I enjoyed the part of the June issue that focused on Mon-El experiencing our world and trying to live in the moment. But it was sandwiched around more Sam Lane stuff and just continued to set things up with a confrontation between John Henry and Atlas cliffhung. It would have been a much stronger issue if it left all the subplots out and devoted every page to the Mon-El stuff that was working so well.

I haven't read this latest issue yet, but I suspect I'll get more of the same especially with the crossover coming up in August. Maybe after that crossover resolves (presumably) much of what Robinson has been setting up, subsequent issues will have some room to breathe. Regardless, I ain't about to drop a title featuring Mon-El and Tellus prominently! (I also like Renato Guedes' art quite a bit--very distinctive.)

As for Action Comics, I dropped it after three issues with Nightwing and Flamebird. I was a little waffly on the title but faced with the choice of paying $5 for an annual and then the ongoing increasing to $3.99 with the addition of a backup I wasn't particularly interested in, it seemed a pretty clear jumping-off point. Ironically those things seemed to sell it for Cobalt, but I don't really regret dropping it.

In any case the issues I read were pretty forgettable storywise, and there seems to be no consistent artist with probably three or more pencillers having drawn or solicited to draw issues already. I may buy the crossover issue this month, but it's far from a sure thing.

I'd grade the Superman titles thusly, report card-style:

Supergirl: A
WoNK: B+
Superman: B-
Action: D

You're totally right about Pete Woods and shame on me for not saying so myself. His art is just kicking ass right now--one of the best in the industry!

I just read the Summer JIMMY OLSEN SPECIAL...

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">... did they really just kill off Jimmy? I'm hoping Tellus knew to swim to whatever body of water Jimmy found himself in after getting shot. </span></span>

I liked Natasha Iron's role here, though I was saddened by <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> the death of one of her INFINITY, INC teammates, Fury (the teen that changed between boy and girl bodies/personae)</span></span>.

With WORLD OF NEW KRYPTON #7, the screws of the story begin to tighten.

My favorite bit, though, was the scene with Tyr-van. I really like this character (possibly because he's a dead ringer for a younger Jan Arrah, IMO-- I wonder if Superman would think so?) and his apparent real friendship for Superman underneath his treachery. Or acts of obedience, as he'd call them.

The Kryptonian guilds and how they affect New Krypton's culture have been a fascinating example of world-building that I've quite enjoyed.

I hope Tyr-van has a life past whatever happens during the hyped upcoming 'Superman' event that's supposed to connect everything going on here, in ACTION, SUPERMAN, ADVENTURE and SUPERGIRL.

WHat did people think of that 'hunt for reactron' stuff. I thought it was pretty unnecessary myself but the implications of Alura coming face to mask with Reactron is something that has me excited.

Having just read issue 10 (11came out today), I'd have to say World of New Krypton has degraded to C- or D territory. It's overly clear by this time that WoNK is merely a placeholder/status quo setter for the overarching Superman uber-story that this is just a small part of. It's a mish-mash of different story arcs wrapped around Krypton's goofy class struggle and not really its own storyline. I think the inevitable hardcover collection will leave the reader experiencing it for the first time wondering, "that's what all the hype was about?!?!" If it weren't for the fact it's already down to its last two issues, I would drop it like a hot tomato! Otherwise, I may as well see it through (and maybe 1-12 will fetch a decent price from some poor sucker on eBay )

I dunno--I just think a big concept like this one should have had a BIG story to accompany it. Is that a fallacy on my part?!?!

As I said before, the art by Pete Woods has been exceptional--only recent issues have had other artists helping him out, which really dampens the effect.

Eff this! I'm ready for all this New Krypton shit to be over! It's even diminished somewhat the otherwise-awesomeness the only super-title that's been worth reading on a consistent basis--Supergirl--with its frequent and bothersome crossovers.

Yeah, while I don't consider the WoNK story to be *bad* per se, I have to wonder what the hell the point was all along. There were good moments in the mini as a whole but it doesn't seem to justify the whole event. It simply removed Superman to New Krytpon for a little while other people guarded Metropolis, but really nothing has changed from 12 months ago. No one has really evolved and the split didn't really do anything to anyone.

Meanwhile, Action Comics started off weak, had a moment of glory in the middle and basically retracted to being a weak comic book again. The characters aren't all that interesting and basically every story amounts to Nightwing and Flamebird flying around the world either being chased or chasing someone. There needs to be more to a comic book than that. And the Captain Atom back-up is pretty incomprehensible.

Superman, with Mon-El and several others, is a mixed bag. You get the sense there is a large overall plot that really seems in depth and coordinated. Yet the actual execution of said plot is a little too tiresome and 'same old'. Meanwhile, Mon-El's interactions with the people of Metropolis have been a bit too brief. I'm really intrigued by the Legion subplot and am glad to see Jimmy Olsen and Steel being used, but no one is doing anything all that interesting other than just being on-panel. And General Lane as the main villain in both titles is really just kind of stupid when you get right down to it. If you're going to use Lois's Dad as the main antagonist for Superman, you better be bringing the A-game of all A-games. Here he is the typical cliche of an aggressive, power-tripping army General. His chief thug, Codename: Assassin, is much more interesting.

And yet there is one great title: Supergirl. Over a year ago I was saying how amazing it is that the title has come this far. A year later the level of quality remains incredibly high. Like Lardy says, the only real complaint is it keeps getting sucked into crossover issues with the other Super-titles, whose plots bring it down. But when its on its own, its really firing on all cylinders. Kara is incredibly likable yet absolutely flawed. Her relationship with Lana Lang is great: not even a little mushy or contrived and yet bursting with subtle moments of trust and kindness. Most importantly, it feels like Kara is growing a little in almost every issue. We're not getting that in the Super-titles elsewhere, which is the problem, but here we get it in spades. She's overcoming her father's murder and suddenly has to deal with Lana having a terminal disease; she's trying hard to live up to the standard Clark has set and yet dealing with all the mistakes and over-reactions a normal teenager would make. Sterling Gates (writer) really nails every facet of personality.

While I'd like to see more Mon-El, I'll be glad when WoNK is over and Superman is back in his own title and Action Comics. Mon's adventures will hopefully continue in Adventure when he's grown up, or elsehwere in his pre-Legion days. But the two main Superman comics could use a hiatus from marketing ploys and take a cue from their sister title (or is it cousin title )?

I thought Supergirl #48 was the weakest non-crossover issue in Sterling Gates's excellent run on the title. We only get a few pages of what I really want to see--what's going on with Lana--and then straight into a Silver Banshee story.

Silver Banshee, while a natural foe for Supergirl, just isn't all that interesting. The concept is working much better over at Secret Six with the very intriguing Jeannette character. SM is just so one-note (pardon the pun) and nothing seen here really changed that for me. Worst of all, it's a two-parter, meaning that what's foreshadowed on next month's cover will probably only show up in the last two pages or so. Boo!

So a rare miss for an otherwise excellent series.

ACTION 885: Nice, shiny art and a fun A-Team sort of ruse by Guardian, Mon-el, Nightwing and Flamebird (who I like, but still can't help finding less fun than a Dick Grayson/Bette Kane partnership would be...)

Looking forward to General Lane's comeuppance-- he's not quite to Norman Osborn levels of overexposure, but he's getting there. I hope he skulks off for a year or two once all this is over, but I wouldn't mind reading about him again once some time has passed. Unlike Osborn...

The Captain Atom mini hasn't catapulted to the forefront of my imagination, though it does feature the creation of a new(?) mystical world and a potentially worthwhile recurring villainess. This particular installment held the reunion of CA with some Justice Leaguers, who put him through his confessional paces, before extending welcoming arms. The last page makes me look forward to the next couple of issues... Captain Atom and the Shadowpact. Sounds intriguing, eh?

Though I notice one-time squeeze Eve 'Nightshade' Eden is *not* among the Shadowpact members pictured. Too bad... would fitting this is with her SUICIDE SQUAD/SECRET SIX appearances have been so difficult?

So, I'm catching up on the Superman comics with "Last Stand of New Krypton" ending and "War of the Supermen" beginning. This post will reflect the latter and I'll get to the former in another post when I get those read (could possibly be later tonight). I know we've been discussing this on the Legion forum too b/c of Legion involvement but I've largely held off on doing so there--mainly because the Legion hasn't been all that involved besides Brainy.

My major conern/criticism is that I'm beginning to suffer event fatigue in a major way in the Superman comics. I'm actually pretty relieved we're almost there and a new era will begin where Supergirl can go back to her solo stories (as it remains an excellent comic book, particularly when not event-centered) and Superman can return to Superman & Action and we can get some solid stories again. Rucka has now left and I kind of get the sense Robinson has grown weary of his Superman stuff and Sterling Gates was called in to get this thing wrapped up for them.

Last Stand of New Krypton isn't that bad a story, just drawn out and suffering from the fact that "New Krypton" was a 12 issue maxiseries that seemed to go on forever. I like seeing Superman, Supergirl, Superboy and the Legion all working together--but part of it seems to be just moving chess pieces around with no attack in place. Also, Luthor, General Lane, Zod and Brainiac seems to be overdoing the villain usage. There was just too many characters here with too little happening.

I'm not exactly thrilled that its going into the weekly "War of the Supermen" but I'll give it a chance, certainly because I'm feeling happy that this era is just about over. It was not a bad era by any means, but just overstayed its welcome.

I hope by story's end, Kandor will be shrunken again and Zod is removed from the table. Also, I hope Alura has a solid role with some redemptive qualities because her story is probably the most interesting of the entire last year's worth of storylines besides the leads.

Also, on one final note, I've basically been skipping over Action Comics the last few months. Flamebird & Nightwing has just become super-boring, while Captain Atom's back-up feature has felt pointless. With Rucka's exit, the writers obviously don't have their heart into it. The oncoming Luthor story isn't exactly getting me excited; the one-issue Superboy story will be a good lead in to his ongoing series (which I'm definitely looking forward to), but I actually wouldn't mind some solid Superman stories again in Action.

Well, I caught up on the rest of the Superman comics after my comments last night for “War of the Superman”, including the Free Comic Book Day issue. On the one hand, I am relieved that things are moving an incredible pace now and this storyline is being resolved; on the other hand, I’m still really feeling some fatigue on the entire New Krypton stuff and knowing its about to be over isn’t helping.

Allura did indeed get exactly what I was wondering about in my above post, though I kind of wished it worked out differently.

The destruction of Kandor caught me by surprise and not really in a good way. It seemed kind of pointless to throw away such a great concept. Mainly because I’d become so tired of Kandor that it didn’t really make me feel any emotion. I’d rather it was re-bottled and then revisited in a new way by new writers. Hopefully something similar will happen shortly. What I mean is, if this is all we’re going to get from Kandor, it seems like a bit of a waste.

I also wonder why DC chose a Free Comic Book Day book to be so mired in about two years worth of continuity? Readers probably checked in and wondered what the hell was going on. Unless I’m just a little jaded, and they actually were pulled into the story (which I admit, could happen).

I think at this point spectacular ending could really save this whole era for me and make me think of it more fondly (especially if I reread all at once one day in the future). A ‘dud’ ending would have the opposite effect.

With changes coming to Superman, and given the decline of newspapers in the real world, I wonder if Clark Kent will get a new job. Remember back in the 70s (or was it even the late 60s?), he was made into a TV guy, which shook me to my little teeny-bopper boots. So maybe now he should work as a blogger, or a Wikileaks type of guy.

Does anyone else feel that War of Supermen and the last two years of Super comics amounted to nothing?

Yeah, it all seemed too tidy -- most Kryptonians dead, a few hundred re-imprisoned in the Phantom Zone, now with a REAL reason to hate Earth and Superman. Alura's sudden death forecloses what had been, to me, a really interesting source of conflict within the family El.

I suppose there WILL be consequences here -- Superman rebuilding trust in people, but that's the 3rd time since his "death"? Who wants to read that AGAIN, especially since it happened SO recently with 1 Year Later?

One other quick but to me very important thing -- in the original Superman continuity, Kandor was always this source of hope, that someday some of the best that was Krypton could be restored and be a key part of maintaining Superman's legacy into the future. That's all gone now, and that just makes me sad. It would have been nice if the New Kryptonians did not turn out to be all scumbags, which is how I feel they ended up looking.

Yup.

Agreed 100%. Feels like a major waste of a great concept. Perfect example of modern creators failing to capture the spirit of what made comics of past ears great and instead trying to tell a destructive story where everything is destructive and nothing of any value is added to the mythos.

Coming soon:

JIMMY OLSEN, CHILD MOLESTER!


-and-


LOIS CHEATS ON CLARK!!!


(just kidding.... but you never know these days)

So... Superman #700.

Did anyone else make the mistake of buying this complete dudsville of an issue?

A title accomplishes the extremely rare feat of making it to 700 issues and THIS is how DC celebrates that fact?!?

With a bland, pointless tale by James Robinson that just exists to wrap up the absolutely woeful New Krypton storyline (like any of the readers jumping on with this issue care about that mess!).

With a fun but out of place Dick Grayson-Robin story that has a small guest appearance by Superman in it.

And with possibly the most ham-fisted, in-your-face-with-worthiness prologue to a story that will be continued next issue by JMS.

And that's it. No pin-ups or character bios or fun ideas or rememberances or anything like that. No, instead we just get those three duds and then 10 PAGES of DC advertising upcoming Superman and Green Arrow books. 10 PAGES of that!

So to sum up, Superman #700, its great milestone issue, contains an epilogue to one of the worst Superman stories ever, a fill-in story, an extremely disappointing prologue to another story... and 10 pages of adverts.



DC just continues to plumb new depths of ineptitude at the moment as far as I'm concerned. They need regime change at that place worse than North Korea does!

I liked the Jurgens story, but also felt that it was a bit out of place.

I picked it up hoping to be intrigued ny JMS' story...glad I'll be able to save that money.

I'm still scratching my head over the big nothing that was Superman #700.
What a disappointing issue.

I did not enjoy the Robinson story. The Robin story was okay, but as Blacula said, felt out of place. The JMS intro did generate some interest from me, along with this week's press releases. Superman walking across America, featuring different cities and some fan interaction? Hmm. I'll pick up the first couple of issues, at least.

It sounds like I haven't missed much since economics compelled me to give up superhero comics a few years ago (second half of 2007, IIRC).

^ Certainly not with the Superman books KC.

The New Krypton storyline was a great premise but DC and it's cabal of crappy writers/editors dropped the ball on it almost from day 1 and then concluded it in the absolute worst way possible in War of the Supermen.

I'll be surprised if it's ever mentioned again. Which is both good (because who wants to be reminded of that disaster) and bad (because some major things happened in it that really should be addressed).

I just hope JMS can turn it around when his run starts for real next issue, because I've got this book on my pull but this prologue filled me with 0% excitement.

The whole thing JMS is doing seems like it hinges on a extrememly flimsy plot point. I don't think it'll hold up for an arc. Unless he's able to spin it into something more.

Just finished Superman #700.

While it wasn't a disaster, it might as well have been an 80-page Giant or some other special. There was no sense of occasion befitting the 700th issue of a comic featuring one of the most iconic characters ever. The only thing that came close was Robinson's recommitment to the Clark/Lois relationship, and who knows where that will go under JMS.

Thumbs up for the first leg of Superman's new journey. The detractors are lining up to take shots at this JMS experiment. Preachy is a word I've heard a few times. Not really. He seems more to be asking questions than providing pat answers. This is original and much more interesting to me than just another alien invasion or slugfest with the super villain of the month. Not that I have anything against alien invasions or super villains. It's just nice to see somebody try something different.

Read this on the shelf of my cbs. It just made me think
why is superman doing a forest gump?

I decided not to buy Superman 700, and I'm on the fence about 701 (and beyond). The more I think about it, the more I'm furious about how New Krypton proceeded and ended. There are, I guess, 2 schools of thought about how Krypton should relate to Superman. One school says that Kryptonians were a heroic and noble species, perhaps a little complacent, caught off guard by an unprecedented and unbelieable cataclysm. A civilization of learning and accomplishment that inspires Superman every bit as much as his mid-American upbringing with the Kents. This was more or less the view on Krypton up until Byrne. Not a perfect species, but a civilization capable of producing a galactic hero like Superman, especially when all of that Kryptonian legacy is re-invigorated on Earth. Byrne's approach was that Krypton basically deserved to die -- a sterile, worthless group that Superman is better off without. I THOUGHT the point of New Krypton was to give us a more nuanced view of Kryptonians, but fall squarely in the Silver Age rather than the Byrne-Age camp. Instead, we get 2 years of irredeemable class prejudice and political military scheming climaxing in the annihilation of the species, by humans no less. And while I enjoyed seeing Superman's character contrasted against, say, the New Krypton military, I saw very little that would make me root for the survival of New Krypton.

And to make all of this even worse, we don't really see Superman processing any of this cataclysm! I don't want to see him lying in bed eating oreos, but I would like to see SOMETHING, some takeaway for him, and I'm not sure the walk across America does it for me. Contrast that with the Supergirl book, where Kara is repulsed by the conduct of New Krypton and its annihilation, and wants to set it behind her and just be Linda Lang. THAT'S a reaction that makes sense dramatically, and it tees up potentially good stories about how Supergirl will integrate her heritage and her new life on Earth and the loss of her parents and friends.

I'm open to persuasion on this. Am I missing something? Does issue 701 speak to any of this?

I've bought 701 but won't read it for awhile. (I'm perpetually behind!) But I've a feeling JMS won't be exploring the aftermath of New Krypton within the storyline.

If that's the case, I'll be pretty happy because New Krypton was pretty much a mess from the point Geoff left the Superman books onward. (Well, it wasn't making me do cartwheels at that point either, but I digress...) I suspect it won't be referred to a whole lot outside Supergirl's book where it makes the most sense to do so.

The whole thing was just total shit from the get-go as you knew with utter certainty that the reset button was going to be hit at some point in some manner. No WAY was a whole planetful of powered Kryptonians gonna be allowed to exist in perpetuity. It was just a matter of whether they were going to be banished to the Phantom Zone, re-shrunk and put back in their bottle or slaughtered like animals. As bloodthirsty as DC editorial's been lately, the actual outcome was unsurprising.

I don't really understand why I spent my money on that crap when I knew what was coming. I guess the initial storyline with Geoff's involvement showed some promise. After that, it was hard to resist a Superman comic featuring Mon-El. Supergirl, I would have bought regardless because of the quality of her creative team. World of New Krypton statred off really promising with some terrific art, but the wheels started coming off halfway through. Action, however, I didn't fall for; I gave that one three issues and dropped it like a hot potato. Nothing remotely enticing over there.

I suppose in the end I stuck it out to see how it ended and how right I would be about it. Didn't hurt that there were Legion connections interspersed. Honestly, about the only keepers in the whole saga were most of the Supergirl issues, Robinson's Guardian and Jimmy Olsen Specials and maybe Geoff's special that kicked it off. And maybe some of the Legion appearances for a good moment or two.

Otherwise, New Krypton was either forgettable or downright offensive taken as a whole. Having Lois Lane's dad be a total Machiavellian bringer of genocide was just awful. And how exactly was Reactron carrying a doomsday device capable of destroying an entire planet?!?! Lazy, careless writing all around.

So if JMS wants to put all that crap behind Superman, I'm all for it. As far as I'm concerned, if Kal doesn't mention it at all while he discovers America, I'm more than good. If fans want to see this walkabout as Kal's reaction to what happened, then I'm fine with that, too.

I wasted tons of money and time reading that stuff that I'll never get back. I just hope that JMS (and Paul Cornell on Action) can cleanse my palette of the bad taste the Superman titles have left in my mouth! In any case I'm looking forward to what Gates and Igle can do on Supergirl without having to constantly tie in to a creatively oppressive never-ending crossover.

I actually agree 100% with Lardy on all counts. I feel like I got suckered too with a shit story that lasted forever. I hope I never hear about it again.

I'm behind too but I can say I'm enthusiastic about all 3 titles going forward.

I will say that I definitely like JMS's general idea for his storyline. Smaller, down-to-Earth stories might just be what the doctor ordered. I can't recall if anything similar has ever been done with Supes on an extended basis. Honestly, I think the closest we've ever gotten were those stories where Supes would answer his fan mail around Christmas time. (I loved those by the way.) Brave and the Bold has renewed my faith in him, so I hope JMS delivers what I need him to.

Haven't read Paul Cornell's first issue yet, but I'm encouraged by what I've heard so far. If he's gonna focus on Luthor and give him some much-needed nuance, that sounds like a great idea. Luthor's been reduced to little more than a thug in most of his appearances the last few years. I've seen nothing to remind me what a great character he can be. Hopefully Paul, who brings a terrific if overlooked pedigree with him from Marvel, will be just what the character needs. It certainly doesn't hurt that he has Pete Woods with him!

And back to New Krypton, for a moment: Zod. There were times that he was given SO much nuance and gray area in New Krypton! But then it all gets flushed away and ignored! WTF?!?!

Thanks, guys! I should emulate your attitudes and just forget about it. I'm just SOOO tired of seeing good ideas, like confronting Kal-El with the reality of Krypton, forcing him to lose it again, this time as an adult activity trying to save it. THOSE COULD HAVE BEEN GOOD STORIES, DANGIT! And yes, Zod was the only interesting character, and he was REALLY interesting all along, but the payoff/climax totally undercut that. Ugh! Based on the preview, I may buy 701 and Action (which I haven't bought since Johns left it). Wasn't James Robinson supposed to be a great writer? People revere Star Man. Golden Age was fantastic (and a lOONNNGG time ago). What happened to this guy?

Deep breath, calm down, go to my happy place.

Yeah, Chinner, many of us are wondering "Whatever Happened to the James Robinson Who Could WRITE?!?!" I think the answer is James was never made to write comics that are heavy in continuity and crossover a lot with others. Starman, Golden Age, Vigilante, Leave It to Chance...those were all very different books that were largely self-contained. In his defense you actually could see some of that old spark in his Guardian and Jimmy Olsen Specials and maybe an issue or half-issue here and there of Superman. I don't know what he did and how much was Greg Rucka but the early issues of World of NK had some life to them as well. A lot of us saw that old spark in the one-issue Starman revival, too.

I think if Robinson had been able to approach Superman on a more personal level, he could have done wonders with the supporting cast especially. Still, no one put a gun to his head and made him come aboard when he did, so it is what it is. If it's true that he's doing another Shade series, I'd definitely be down for that.

And, yes, New Krypton as a storyline had HUGEMONGOUS potential! That's both why I bought the damn thing and why I'm so outraged with what became of it! The endless potential was wasted and dumbed down insanely! This was such an unusual opportunity to tell a nuanced, character-altering tale of a man who suddenly had an opportunity to connect with his people. WASTED!!!

If you're on the fence about JMS's storyline, Chinner, I'd suggest you wait for our reviews to pour in and decide for yourself afterwards. Hell, you can even trade-wait and, if it's good, save a few bucks down the line. This may very well be a storyline that reads better in a trade, or maybe it'll be perfect for monthly doses? Either way, I doubt you'll have too much problem getting a few after the fact. If it sells well, there'll probably be a 2nd printing. If not, it'll sit on the rack a while.

So I finally got around to reading Superman #700 after hearing about the disappointment everyone had towards it. I admit the Robinson opening story was absolutely that disappointing but at least I feel like the last few years of Superman stories are at an end and we can move forward. I want to forget that ever happened, as Lardy and I discussed with DC above.

However, I did find the Jurgens story very charming and reminiscent of his one-off stories of the past (especially his amazing Christmas stories every year) and was glad for its inclusion. Reading all the way through the issue it was almost like they put it in there to say to me: okay, here’s a reminder of a fun little Superman story to erase the past few years from your mind.

Then, I got the JMS story, which was really just a teaser, but I found it to be a strong little start. There wasn’t much meat to it but it did serve to raise my curiosity and get me excited about what’s ahead. I’m one of those posters who thinks what JMS is doing in B&B is nothing short of spectacular. (Legion fans who tuned in only for the LSH and Subs two-parter unfortunately did not get the best taste for that). So I’m actually quite optimistic about the future for the Superman comics.

Compounded on that, I’m actually excited about the franchise as a whole. Each comic appears as if it will be standing on its own and right now that is sorely needed right now.

I’m not that familiar with Paul Cornell but I hear good things and am willing to give him a chance. Lex Luthor is desperately needed for the ‘next step’ of his long existence—he’s been stagnant in my mind for a long, long time. A real draw for me is the artwork by Pete Woods whose work throughout the last few years has been at times the shining beacon of greatness in a sea of ‘meh’. And I’m absolutely super-excited about a Jimmy Olsen back-up.

Supergirl by Gates & Igle has been the best super-title for years now but hampered by the stupid never-ending crossovers. Now that it can stand on its own again, I have high hopes it will return to its awesomeness.

And the Superboy series is something I’m actually quite excited about! Bringing in Lemuire to write it was a stroke of genius IMO and from what I’ve seen in interviews, its thus far the single best premise Kon-El has ever had for a series (and I collected his entire 100 issue first series, which I loved, but I admit the Hawaii thing was a bit too over the top).

So I’m optimistic. I have a few Super-comics with me at work today and I want to read them when I can sneak them in later.

So I read the first issues of the new runs of Superman and Action Comics:

I found JMS’s first Superman issue to actually quite good! Like Jerry says above, the word “preachy” definitely doesn’t apply here; rather, Superman is asking hard questions and searching for answers, all the while presenting a point of view where all of us have to work together to figure them out. When I heard of the initial premise of the run, I was slightly skeptical, but JMS’s solid writing comes through here. This really is the most ‘down to Earth’ set-up I’ve read in comics; and a very human Superman is present in combination with a very majestic and larger than life Superman. I’m impressed.

Also impressive was the artwork by Eddie Barrow, who was excellent back on 52. I’m glad to see him here, as under Giffen’s tutelage he really came into his own in terms of pacing and keeping the pages exciting. I enjoyed the way he drew Superman’s cape flowing.

As for Action Comics, I didn’t dislike it at all, but it hasn’t jumped out at me yet. I’m still not 100% sure what to expect from Cornell’s run here. Two things I liked where the twists: the ‘fake Lois’, which I saw coming, and the last page villain, who has a lot more oomph given his last appearances in a major storyarc. Pete Woods did a great job as usual, but there wasn’t enough excitement in this issue to take advantage of his skills—I hope that changes.

All in all, I’d give JMS’s Superman an ‘A’, with Action Comics getting a ‘B-/C+’ with room for improvement.

I went into the CBS today on the fence as to whether I'd pick up the third issue of Paul Cornell's Action Comics run. The first two issues just didn't grab me like I hoped they would. (The art by Pete Woods, however, was terrific as it has been since he did World of New Krypton.)

So I flipped theu it and nothing grabbed me. The Superboy preview actually looked more impressive, but ultimately, I didn't want to blow $3.99 on what looked to be more of the same that we got in the first two issues.

A book starring Lex Luthor just has to be better and cleverer than average if it's going to grab me and make me spend my hard-earned bucks on it. Nothing I saw in the comic promised what I was looking for, so I didn't buy it.

As curious as I am to see how Death is going to be written and how she'll figure into that issue, I just don't feel compelled to keep buying for that one reason.

Anyhow, curious to see what anyone else thinks of these Luthor-centric issues.

(BTW, LOVED JMS's first issue on Superman! Haven't read the second yet, but I'm stoked for it!)

The second issue of JMS's Superman run is out and I have to say I'm already loving it. Just like on his Brave & Bold run, JMS appears to be focusing more on stories with some real heart & soul, that are more about complicated situations where the lead character has to stand up and make a decision to do something. Rather than "villain of the month" or "yet another cosmic crisis", the scale of the problem Superman faces isn't really the point of the story, rather, the decision Superman has to weigh in on is the point, and ultimately this showcases who Superman is better than anyone.

I like that JMS is providing no real easy answers here and is not really being that preachy. I think the resolution of the second issue of his run is something anyone from any political viewpoint could get behind.

The artwork by Eddie Barrows and J.P. Mayer is terrific and I love the extreme amount of detail poured into every panel, with backgrounds and facial expressions paramount among them. Barrows is able to convey a more personal side of Superman and then the following page show an iconic, powerful side.

I think Lardy has it exactly right about a Lex Luthor series—I feel the same way. So it’s with that in mind, that so far, I’m only finding the Lex Luthor story “okay”. Don’t get me wrong—it isn’t a bad story—but it’s just not good enough so far to justify Lex being the star in Action Comics. In order for that to occur in my mind, the story should be ground-breaking.

The plot & writing are average (even slightly above average) and the Pete Woods artwork is absolutely terrific. But so far, I’m left wondering what the point is. I think this would make for a really excellent long-running subplot in a Superman storyline; as a lead story, I’m not so sure.

Superboy Back-Up
The Superboy back-up, for one issue only, was actually pretty good! It definitely got me excited for the upcoming Superboy series, which looks like it’s going to be pretty damn excellent! I have to say though: this brief back-up story read like a teaser, more than a back-up story. It was entirely incomplete, and almost felt like pages pulled out of the first issue of the upcoming comic. That makes me think this was more marketing ploy/editorial blunder than any decision to make Superboy a one-off back-up.

Superman: Secret Origin
The final issue of S:SO came out and all in all, the overwhelming emotion I feel for it is disappointment. Superman’s origin story / early days have been told *so* many times that the bar may be too high. You need to be both excellent and original. I felt like this was mediocre and really didn’t add much to the mythos. Perhaps it was designed to be a supplement to the awful New Krypton arc that just ended, and because of stupid delays came out way after the fact, but that only compounds the problem.

I do have to say though, I enjoy me some Gary Frank artwork. I know he has his detractors on this board, but I like seeing him draw Superman & his cast, especially Lois.

Supergirl
Supergirl continues to be a series where everything is right: writing, artwork, atmosphere, supporting cast, etc. The only problem is the latest story is a Bizarro-Supergirl story and I realized once again, that I just don’t enjoy Bizarro stories. I want to; but I just don’t. And that was enough to limit my enjoyment here.

Things I’m looking forward to: Superboy ongoing series & the Jimmy Olsen back-up!

Guys. Check out this crack at Rise of Arsenal in a preview page to the next Supergirl issue.

http://blondthecolorist.deviantart.com/art/Supergirl-57-p3-181293240

OK so three issues into his Superman run now and I have no idea what JMS was thinking going down this road with the character.

Why is it that when big name writers finally get their chance to work on the Big Red S in his flagship book they always decide to tell some maudlin, heavy-handed, preachy, 'message' story that has the world's greatest hero acting like an impotent schlub out-of-touch with humanity and powerless to do anything about it. At least Kal hasn't started crying in this story yet (see: the woeful For Tomorrow by Brian Azzarello for an example of another writer who thought Superman readers only read the character for preachy cry-fests).

Now that sounded harsh and to be fair to JMS, this isn't a bad story. Preachy and heavy-handed and fairly dull and maudlin - yes, but it's not badly written. In fact, even though I only know his work from the wonderful Brave and Bold, JMS is showing me here why he's known for being the excellent writer he is. He really is gifted with his narration and dialogue and turns of phrase IMO.

But WHY couldn't he be putting those excellent writing skills of his to work on a story that was actually interesting to read about? And so far this story has just not been interesting (IMO). And I came into it VERY open-minded and wanted it to succeed.

I'm sure as big a fan of the character as JMS is has other stories he wants to tell about Superman and all his supporting characters and villains in Metropolis. I wish Kal would quickly finish his walk so JMS can get to all that.

On the plus side, Eddy Barrows' artwork has been phenomenal! From starting off as what I thought of as a poor-man's Tony Daniel clone, he is now one of my favourit artists at DC. Fantastic work AND he seems to be able to handle a monthly! DC needs to hold onto him tight!

I don't care, I'll keep saying it, Bizarro Arsenal!

Anyone know if Gates and Igle are off Supergirl?!?! DC's latest solicitation has another creative team listed (Nick Spencer and Bernard Chang) and a vague enoughj description to make it unclear as to whether this is a fill-in or a creative change. Though a Supergirl title with Spencer writing could be a good thing, I'm pretty fond of Gates and Igle. Did I miss an announcement somewhere?

Yea, new creative team comes in with #50 or 51. The new team looks solid but like you, I think Gates / Igle has been outstanding. They've undone all the bad Supergirl-ness from when Kara was reintroduced and made her firmly "the real Supergirl".

Timely article .

So, as per a thousand angry message board posters, it seems JMS is stepping back from the Superman (and Wonder Woman) monthlies to concentrate on his Earth One sequel... ALREADY!

This is very surprising to me. I'd heard of his bad reputation for not finishing books but to do it so soon into his high-profile relaunches of 2 of DC's top 3 flagship books - that takes some serious chutzpah IMO.

I'm not sure what to do with this book now. I haven't really been enjoying the stories but I have been really appreciating the way JMS has written them (if that makes sense), so to take him away from the one thing he's doing good at and leave it some complete unknown (to me) to follow his not-very-interesting plots seems like the worst result possible.

I'm looking to drop books to save money for a holiday anway so this might just be the first to go.

No one at DC seems to have expected SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE to do as well as it has. Now that the numbers are in, they're fast-tracking the followups. (There were always meant to be followups, but now DC wants them sooner. That's something some of the whiners don't seem to get.) It's less JMS' fault than it is a business decision made by the company.

What I haven't seen addressed yet is what's going to happen to Brave and the Bold, which has been in limbo for a while now.

^ I know right. B&B is the only book in this whole drama that I really care about... and I can't find a straight answer from anywhere about what's going to happen to it.

I will be devastated if it gets cancelled. It's my fave book on the stands right now ('now' meaning 5 months ago or whenever the last issue came out).

Since JMS doesn't seem to be able (or want) to commit to a monthly I don't know why DC doesn't just get a different creative team on this book and have JMS do an issue every now and then when he feels like it (I get the impression he was enjoying working on this book so I'm sure he'd be up for that). It's not like this book needs a consistent creative team anyway. All it needs is good stories.

JMS called B&B his way of "getting an education on the DCU", so I think you're right that he did enjoy it. He's also announced (I believe on DC Source) a break from writing monthlies to focus on original graphic novels.

If there aren't any finished scripts lying around for a team to put together, they could always do on that book what they are doing with Supes and WW and make use of JMS' story ideas.

Well, I've enjoyed his stuff on Supes and WW quite a bit so this sucks to me, personally. Too bad--I was looking forward to more. I'll keep reading as other writers finish his plots but I've lost my excitement.

I understand the business end of it much in the same way I understand insurance companies raising your rates, prescription drugs costing so much and Wall St bankers giving themselves crazy bonuses. My feelings about all of those things are very similar to how I feel about this business decision.

Well, so far his WW has underwhelmed, so that may be an easy drop. (I have last month's issue still to read, though, so if it sets my nads on fire... )

The Superman stuff has been much better, IMO. But I'm not sure if a different scripter will make the stories resonate as much as they have for me with JMS. Don't get me wrong--"Grounded" hasn't exactly been an instant classic, so far, but it's been enjoyable. I've heard good things about Roberson (and about Hester's writing, as well), but I might just wait and see how the reviews go on Roberson's first issue and base my decision on those.

I just finished Superman #705 and then instantly called my comic shop and asked them to drop this book from my pull-list. JMS or no JMS, this book is a walking abortion IMO and I want nothing more to do with it.

Preachy, heavy-handed, cliched, unoriginal, completely lacking in surprise or excitement, BORING - all words I could use to describe #705... and nothing I buy comics for.

I get what JMS is trying to do with this storyline - he wants to use a larger-than-life, other-worldly man-God like Superman to address all these much more down-to-earth, 'human' problems like neglecting our communities, drug-abuse, xenophobia, domestic violence, child abuse and so on. But he's gone about it in the worst way possible.

By having Superman trudge across America in this almost depressed fashion literally coming across the 'issue' of the week (almost Smallville krypto-villain style) and then having Superman deliver a ham-fisted lecture to us (literally to us the reader in #705!) at the end of each issue - it's like JMS's storyline is an after-school special that won't end!

The worst thing is, these important themes/issues have ALREADY been addressed, AND BETTER, in the excellent and much-missed 'Triangle' Superman period of the late 80s to mid 90s. There, Superman dealt with things like...

Domestic violence - http://www.comics.org/issue/51945/cover/4/?style=default

Families falling apart -
http://www.comics.org/issue/87719/cover/4/?style=default

Child abuse -
http://www.comics.org/issue/87739/cover/4/?style=default

Grief and revenge - http://www.comics.org/issue/87740/cover/4/?style=default

Racism - http://www.comics.org/issue/42709/cover/4/?style=default

Homelessness - http://www.comics.org/issue/47422/cover/4/?style=default

Drink driving - http://www.comics.org/issue/49074/cover/4/?style=default

and so on in ways that were much more integrated into the storytelling (and therefore all the more interesting and powerful for it) than this hackneyed and frankly amateurish way that JMS is telling his story here.

Honestly, I cannot believe that this is the same writer who's been giving me the incredible Brave and Bold month after (late) month. I remember people (not at Legion World) accusing some of his stories there as being preachy (the Dial-H-for-Hero one springs to mind) but the message Batman delivered to Robby at the end of that issue was *earned* and a necessary conclusion to Robby's actions earlier.

Here, Superman literally just strolls into town; meets some new, completely throw-away characters who have some problem or other; addresses it in some way; delivers a preachy message about how we all need to look after each other or something; and then strolls on to tackle the issue of the month next month. Rinse and repeat.

Not good comic books IMO.

On Monday I bought two issues of Peter David's Supergirl series, 40 and 41. It was a two-part story revolving around Ember, the Earth-Angel of fire whom preceded Supergirl, and the revamped Satan Girl. As you all know, Sterling Gates revealed ANOTHER revamped Satan Girl in the Supergirl Annual, but she was visually based off of David's Satan Girl.

I picked these up because I had read a review of the two issues on a Supergirl blog, and a comment on them read about how themes like joy, affection, redemption, salvation, and non-romantic love are practically NEVER done anymore.

The story behind these two issues is that Supergirl wished to know more about her predecessor, Ember, from her descendant Tammy Neil. A spell meant for Supergirl to contact the currently deceased Ember backfired and led to the resurrection of Dolores Pratchet, Satan Girl. She does battle with Supergirl, mistaking her, at first, for Ember, but Satan Girl manages to switch Supergirl and Ember in time.

Ember, as it turns out, was a slave whom belonged to Dolores Pratchet during the 1700s. She was the nanny and caregiver of Dolores' young daughter, Rachel, and loved the girl dearly. Ember was also a Satanist under the tutelage of Dolores, and had an affair with her husband. Dolores accused Ember of witchcraft and seduction, and had her burned at the stake. Now, Ember was not a good person, but she did love and care for Rachel, as did the young girl. Don't assume though that this is "ooh chil'" mammy type of thing. Rachel loved Ember and tried to help her escape from being burned at the stake, believing in Ember and loving her back. She loved Ember so much, that Rachel threw herself on the fire trying to save her.

The basic belief in Peter David's Supergirl, was that an Earth-Born angel was created when a good person sacrifices their self in order to save a damned person, so by sacrificing herself, Rachel was reborn along with Ember as an Earth-Born. Dolores, however, enraged that her daughter was now merged with the woman who tried to steal her husband, sold her soul and became Satan Girl (she originally bore a costume identical to the ORIGINAL Satan Girl). She battled Ember many times over the next couple of centuries. I must point out that Ember lasted a while as an angel because she rarely used her powers, and another belief was that the Earth-Born would slowly become corrupt by the human element. Finally, Ember, and by association Rachel, were cast into hell when Ember killed Satan Girl.

Satan Girl intended for Ember to allow Supergirl to die in her place, so that way Rachel would not be damned along with Ember. However, Supergirl and Ember share a moment where the two can speak face to face. Ember admitted that she was scared of going back to damnation, and Supergirl replied that Ember should do what she thought was right, and let God sort out the details. She was willing to allow herself to die in Ember's place, if she so chose to do. Instead, Ember did the right thing and returned. With that act, Satan Girl was reclaimed by the grave, and Ember had managed to gain salvation for herself AND Rachel.

Satan Girl's motives were anger for her daughter being lumped together with the self-serving Ember, and then trying to save the girl from damnation. Satan Girl was a villain, and had murdered many people, including children, but in its twisted way, it was a noble motive for her as a mother.

Ember was a sinner and rightfully damned, but it was apparent that she loved Rachel, going as far as to defend the girl from a herd of search dogs, and Rachel loved Ember, going as far as disobeying her parents and throwing herself on the fire to save her.

Supergirl was willing to let Ember choose whether or not she lived, not making judgements and handling the situation in stride, like a heroine.

You don't see this kind of writing, I'll tell you that much.

The recent issues of Supergirl saw creators Sterling Gates and Jamal Igle wrap-up their run on Supergirl, which has lasted a number of years. The story was a small-scale but very good story about the Toyman (and his son, the Dollmaker), although the story was really about bringing some closure to the Cat Grant / Supergirl fued which has been going on since their run began. On both levels it succeeded and the Cat Grant / Supergirl story was very well done. It finally let this ‘new’ Cat Grant connect to the readers on some level, and also at long last tied together her history to her previous long run as a supporting character for the title, since that has basically been ignored.

(In fact, Gates seems to be the only one who helped tie together Lana Lang and Cat Grant’s current status to their long history with the Superman family when everyone else ignored it; for that, I give him thanks).

The story was very good but more important, I think readers should pause for a moment and think about how much Gates & Igle have succeeded. When Supergirl was reintroduced a few years ago, it was quite frankly—a catastrophe. DC failed on every level and basically presented her a Paris Hilton-like jerk, self-centered and possibly even going evil. They did so much damage that many people—included many on Legion World—still see her this way even though readers of her title know that is not the case. It’s actually been a few years since she’s been like that, and the damage is still there; I want to kick other posters when they still think this, but honestly, I can’t blame them.

What Gates & Igle have done is come in and essentially restore a level of respectability to Supergirl. They took the modern version and made her the Silver Age Supergirl in the same way the modern Superman is the Silver Age Superman (and the current Legion is the Silver Age Legion). None of those three are exactly the same, but they’re pretty close. Supergirl at long last *is* Supergirl!

Gates made her someone who, as a teenager, makes mistakes, makes bad decisions, and is overwhelmed by the world at large. Yet, he showcased her heroic side, her intelligent side, her brave side and the part of her that is at least trying to be a better person, but forgiving her enemies, taking the high road and giving people a chance. He did all of those things so well, that I now see Supergirl that way.

Meanwhile, Igle came in and took the style Supergirl had been presented in—which frankly, was pretty slutty—and subtly changed the image so there was a touch of class to her look once again. I know some people go nuts about the belly shirt (but c’mon that’s a kind of ridiculous item to get mad about), but IMO, Igle made the costume work. The very clear decision (and I know it was his from interviews) to no longer show ‘up-skirt shots’ was a small yet major step. In the meantime, he also provided solid story-arcs that were exciting and dynamic.

This creative team doesn’t get a lot of praise and that’s a shame. Because the damage had already been done and readers had already given up on Kara so they didn’t get to see these guys come in and restore her to her proper place in the DCU. I’m very much looking forward to the next creative team (Nick Spencer—alright!) but I recognize that any success they have is partially due to Gates & Igle coming through in a big way on this run.

I read one of the Gates/Igle trades, I forget the title, but it's the one with the mystery of who Superwoman is. I enjoyed it until the end, when (spoiler box)

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Superwoman turns out to be Lucy Lane, and she literally explodes.</span></span>

I thought that was DISGUSTING and all to typical of DC in the last few years. It's like so many DC books, even the decent ones, are tainted.

Fickles: <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Lucy/Superwoman got better.</span></span>

I just read Supergirl #59 the other night. As Cobie remarks above, this is the end of the excellent run by Gates and Igle, a run that was awesome for all the reasons Cobie states but still feels as if it's ending too soon. This is especially so because their run was constantly intruded upon by the New Krypton storyline. They did the best they could with those intrusions, but it was their issues that were unfettered by the crossovers which truly showed what the team was capable of.

Sadly, I will be leaving with Gates and Sterling because the previously-announced new writer, Nick Spencer, has since pulled out. I've never heard of James Peaty, and Nick's aborted run makes me thing DC might be imposing undo influence on the future direction of the series. I will watch the reviews though and check the series out if they are enthusiastic.

Back to the issue at hand: I thought 59 was a wonderful coda to the Gates/Igle run! It tied in very nicely to their first issue which introduced Cat Grant's antagonism with Kara and resolved that antagonism (or at least showed progress to it). It's the conclusion of a two-parter in which Cat reluctantly enlists Supergirl's aid in finding some missing children. Cat has been receiving dolls coinciding with each disappearance.

Last issue, they went after the villain whose modus operandi most fits the crimes, Winslow Schott, the Toyman, who is still in prison. After the dolls viciously attack Schott, Cat and Kara get the idea that someone else is behind the crimes. This issue it turns out someone else is Schott's son, the Dollmaker. It seems Cat Grant has been his fixation all along because Cat lost her son to Toyman (or one of his creations if you believe the Johns retcons) years earlier. In the end it's up to Kara to rescue Cat from this truly maniacal individual, and Cat gets some closure on her son's death as they save the kidnapped children.

A subplot that I really enjoyed was when the villainous Superwoman gets a visit from her sister. If you don't know who Superwoman is, let's just say that she's an established family member of a famous supporting character. It's a satisfying, emotional resolution for one of the major plot points of the Gates/Igle run.

I think Gates does a superb job of making this issue an accessible one if you hadn't read the first part or even if you hadn't read any of their run to date.You could argue that the recap takes a lot of space, but to an extent it is any creative team's responsibility to make each issue accessible.

The ending is heartwarming and unapologetically happy as members of the Superman family gather at Ma Kent's for a Christmas celebration. We don't see nearly enough of this anymore in comics as I would like. A fabulous way for the run to end.

Jamal Igle has a clean style that's a cousin to Jurgens and Ordway with a bit of a modern edge to it. He always delivers with the storytelling, and as Cobie points out, he's subtly de-sluttized Kara's look while essentially keeping it the same. The leggings under the skirt were a terrific idea as was the narrowing of the amount of midriff showing.

I hope we see Gates and Igle on some other title(s) very soon, preferably together. It can't be overstated what a terrific reclamation they did on a character that had been missing the mark so badly since being reintroduced. I will miss them (and Kara) for now.

Lardy's rating for Supergirl #59: 4 donuts (out of five)!

^Excellent review Lardy, and you bring up an important point about how this series was hampered by tons and tons of editorial mandated crossovers with the bore of a storyline, New Krypton. I'm hugely dissapointed that Spencer is coming on (as I was unaware he backed out) and it makes me wonder if DC's editorializing their writers is part of the reason?

You bring up something else about Gate's writing that is a good point: his stories were for the most part very accessible to new readers.

Catching up on Superman, I read the ‘abused child’ story and it dawned on me that JMS’s run has now done what I feared: it crossed over from a well-written story where there are no easy answers to being way too preachy, with each issue being a ‘very special issue’ a la Judd Winnick or Punky Brewster / refrigerator madness. It was enough where I really didn’t enjoy the story at all. Looking back through this thread, Blacula on the previous page lists several excellent stories in the 90’s where Superman dealt with these issues in a way that was well-written and not preachy at all. With that in mind, it renders this lesser story pretty worthless.

The following issue, by G. Willow Wilson, who I like quite a bit, is a focus on Perry White and the Daily Planet, which I was glad to see. I thought it was a good effort, but Wilson didn’t seem to have quite the right grip on Perry White’s character. Ultimately it left me a bit flat. Between Action Comics (which I’ll review later this month) and Superman, I realize nothing much has changed in the last year: the two Superman titles are the worst of the Super-familiy.

That's a relief. Thanks, Chief. Now, after reading your reply and your review of the final Gates/Igle issue, I wish the library had the rest of the Gates/Igle run. Maybe they'll get in the final trade.

I should qualify my reviews for Supergirl, Fickles, by stating that graphic violence did rear its head hear and there in the run. The Dollmaker's dolls, for example, do attack Toyman and stab him.

Personally, I think the violence is used effectively there, and not gratuitously. The scene you mention with Superwoman to me was shocking but very effective. But I don't want to just recommend it, then have you come back wondering why I didn't warn you about the violence. I was shocked that you found such a disturbing level in Booster's series as it never really stuck out with me. So be forewarned.

Also, the storyline that preceded the Dollmaker wasn't my favorite and would likely be included in the trade. It involved a prolonged Bizarro Supergirl storyline that was very hit or miss. But the annual with the LSH was done very well. Also the first annual (from 2009) focused mostly on Superwoman and her origin (and rebirth), and I thought it was very well done.

Thank you for the warnings, Chief.

There were actually only two things in the Booster series that really bothered me -- one was the alternate-timeline Beatriz being graphically burned to death, the other was the Rip's off-panel torture of Ray. But they both bothered me a lot, especially what happened to Beatriz!

I know it's splitting hairs, but the fact that it's an alternate Beatriz didn't bother me as much. I mean, part of the purpose of being a time cop is to prevent events from unfolding in bad ways. Sometimes you need to see the bad things happening to understand what Booster's fighting for, IMO.

SUPERGIRL 60: It's a testament to the writing when a conversation in a college cafeteria is so gripping that Supergirl vs. Silver Banshee, Parasite, Kryptonite Man(!) and Metallo takes back seat. But that's the case here.

Harvard students Alex, David, Justin and Elise are in on the creation of 'FLYOVER', an app that allows users to post sighting of superheroes as they're seen. Potential for good? Yes. For entertainment? Of course. For evil? Oh, yes. Since villains can sign on, too- they'll know just when and where to strike.

Which seems to be Alex's aim. He thinks superheroes are inhibiting the advance of civilization. He has a distinctive motivation that makes a perverted kind of sense. Though I question his interpretation of the Roman Empire and their dealings with blacks, Jews, etc.

I haven't seen THE SOCIAL NETWORK yet, so I don't know how closely the creation of FLYOVER mimics that of Facebook, but there's an obvious homage going on. Alex is an instant 'keeper'. What a villain he could make. Or an interfering 'gray'? Alex's already practicing 'personal' crime as he seduces Elise, threatens to 'out' Justin and manipulates/blackmails David.

If FLYOVER is used elsewhere, its evolution could be interesting to watch. I'd imagine the DCU heroes would hate it. Other than Booster Gold and, maybe, Jade. Anyone else?

A comic with a fight, an 'Idea' with a capital 'I', and a compelling new character at the center of a fascinating concept. Can't ask for much more. Well, maybe a bit more of the central character. Focusing elsewhere hasn't been something this title's done, to date.

As I’m nearing the end of an enormous pile of comics I’ve been going through during CBRM, I’ve found that I can hardly get through an entire issue of Action Comics. It’s a combination of not caring that much about Lex Luthor and his story and finding the writing and the art to be rather bland. Even with the Secret 6 present, I found myself just skimming through, wishing that somehow this comic book can get back on track.

Meanwhile, I’ve been absolutely loving the Jimmy Olsen back-ups! They’ve been the saving grace for Action Comics, which is a shame, because they’re ending and will be completed in a one-shot. I think Nick Spencer has injected the sense of fun into the feature that recalls Jimmy’s glory days when his own comic was a top-seller, but Spencer has also been very smart to make sure it is an adventure heavy feature as well. I really wish this could be an ongoing series! The latest story is absolutely too cool for DC right now: Mr. Mxytplk’s (sp?) daughter or niece or something wants to marry Jimmy and he goes along with it until he realizes it’s too good to be true—unfortunately, not enough rape and torture for DC Comics these days and their ‘teen or older’ ratings!

I wish Superman could retake Action Comics and Jimmy could have his own title, not to mention a new team taking over Superman and somehow, someway, the Superman titles could be awesome again.

For those of you whom remember the Supergirl annual, anyone recall Brainiac 5's mention of "Lex Luthor's OTHER Son"?

I'm only just buying the rest of the parts of the Action Comics story, with the first and second part, and I can stop gabbing about how frikking adorable Mister Mind is in #891, during the Wild West sequence.

Thumbs up for Superman #708. The Superman Squad was very cool. The "Grounded" story line develops more of a sense of purpose and there is some unexpected villainy at work. Superman's first meeting with the new Wonder Woman was memorable. The art was very good.

SUPERGIRL #61: So who or what is Alex? Luthor's 'other son', as Sarcasm Kid alluded to? Brainiac's? (He calls either his computer bank 'father' or is broadcasting to someone we don't know the ID of). The coloring makes his face look white... the girl he kissed says his lips felt chalky. Is he related to the Joker?

If I had my druthers, it'd be none of the above, as I think his set-up was individual enough without having to tie him to an established DCU character. But since it seems he will be, I *am* curious.

I wish his three victims?stooges? weren't given such short shrift. I kind of liked the way they interacted.

It's somewhat surprising that they go for a Teen Titans member as guest star, rather than a JLA one.

I really enjoyed issues #60 and #61 of Supergirl... I haven't been following her since her reintroduction to the DC universe... I thought they tarted her up too much... but after reading the Annual with the LSH, I decided to check out her monthly adventures... I like how she plays off of Robin in #61... their team-up in Superman/Batman at Halloween was great too... now that I've dropped Superman, I'm going to give Kara's book a chance...

Superman #710 gave us another take on the first meeting of Superman and Batman. This time, featuring an encounter with Vandal Savage. The story didn't add much and only served to further muddy continuity.

What do readers here think of the 'big' event that happened in ACTION 900?

Does it imply that Clark's membership in JLA will be even more distant? Maybe he'll be a member of JLI when it gets it's monthly?

Lame

I believe it will never be spoken of again

The timing couldn't have been any worse.

RE: Superman #714

A disappointing conclusion for the series and the "Grounded" story line. It tried to be all hopeful and full of positive Superman energy. In the end, it just felt trite.

^ Agreed.

I thought that the Retroactive Superman issue was better than anything I've read recently. I liked the paper it was printed on too.

Supergirl, Power Girl and Batgirl (the Stephanie Brown one) sure are getting the shaft in DC's realignment. These three blonde ladies have been starring in three solo titles featuring heroines that have been quite enjoyable reads. I'll miss them. I even forgive Miller the horrible usage and death of Kid Eternity (who'll be back one day, I'm sure) in BATGIRL.

Does the fact that they're blonde mean they can't add to 'diversity'? (How I'm beginning to loathe that word...)

DC's definition of that word is such a crock. It not only ignores ageism, it's become a corporate symbol of it! And comics continues it's aggregate geographicism-- where are the titles with Southern characters? Those from the Pacific Northwest? From anywhere other than the overused NY City and LA?

Reading Morrison's "SuperGods" non-fiction book now, and between that and All-Star, I really like his take on Superman, so I'm cautiously optimistic for the relaunch next week.

I still not sure we need another re-imagining after Birthright, Secret Origin, Earth One, etc. But I'm willing to see what Grant can do.

Preview for Action Comics #1:

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=44117

After reading the latest interview with Morrison, I think Action Comics may be the series I'm looking forward to most! Just about everything hrs doing sounds 'right' to me and very exciting.

Action Comics #1

I'm going to end up with the reputation of being DC's biggest cheerleader with all this relaunch stuff going on. Honestly guys, I am capable of critical thinking....

...but I have to give Action Comics #1 an A+.


My head is spinning. There was just so much going on in this issue. There are definite nods to the very earliest of Superman stories, but at the same time it felt totally fresh and new. Superman, Clark, Luthor, Lois, Jimmy and Sam Lane all got solid introductions. In just a few panels, their personalities came through. Simple moments spoke volumes. While talking to Clark on the phone, Jimmy said, "Dude, What's up?' In an instant, the relationship was defined.

Major props to Rags Morales. I've been a fan for a long time. This goes above his usual work. This is not about pretty pictures. This is about storytelling. It's long overdue and thrilling to see.

Your review has me amped, Jerry! Really thrilled you enjoyed it. This will be the first one I read.

I may cave...argh!

I definitely agree with Jerry about this book. I've never been a big fan of Superman (or Batman either) but I've read enough over the years to know the mythos. (Well, who in the world doesn't know it?) It all just kind of bored me. I only picked up this book because a solicit said it was a "cornerstone" of the DCnU. My hopes weren't high.

But this issue -- storytelling, art, characterization -- everything drew me right into the story. I reveled (yep, I did) in the well-tuned dialogue. Usually on a first reading I skim the art in order to see how the story plays out. With this one, though, the art told its part of the story so well I had to slow down and take it in. It took a while to read this book, and was well worth it. This Superman and his world look like something I want to get to know.

Jerry's right. A+

I'll echo the others, this was the book of the week.

Really enjoyed the callbacks to early Superman but with a fresh feel. I thought I'd never want to see General Lane again after recent events, but Morrison even made his one note seem in tune,

Luthor is great, Superman is awesome. Loved how the book had three different centerpiece action sequences. "Action" comics indeed!

I just noticed the numbers on the tops of the police cars on Action #1's cover. 19 and 38, the year of the original Action #1.

Nothing else to say that hasn't been said. Art...story...it's all amazing.

Buy it.

Outside of his JLA and Legion appearances, I've never really been a Superman fan or picked up any of his titles. That will be changing now thanks to Action Comics #1. It was a solid read! I second the writing, art, and introductions as being top notch.

Even as an "old fan," DCNu has managed to make me a new one for some of its titles so far. This almost feels like a stronger introduction to the new 'verse than Justice League did.

What he said...

The title I’ve been most excited about was Action Comics #1 and I couldn’t wait to dive into it. And I was pleasantly surprised to see that despite my high expectations, I was still totally blown away by how much I enjoyed the issue!

Grant Morrison, whom I’ve always loved, is definitely putting in 100% effort here to make the ‘new’ Superman memorable and meaningful. And if he keeps it up, I know he’s going to succeed. The clear fact is that I enjoyed this issue more than any other Superman ongoing series in the last 15 years. A change had to be made and it was right of them to do it.

Rag Morales does an unbelievable a job on the art. I’ve always liked his style too, even the quirks (his eyes are sometimes weirdly uneven). I hope he can keep a monthly schedule because he really seems to get what Morrison is doing and is enhancing it everywhere he can.

I love the entire premise / sentiment of the Superman myth being presented here. Superman being a defender of the common man from the elite fits right in with the original concept Siegel and Schuster intended. Its about damn time to get back to Superman’s real roots. Morrison is right on in his interpretation of a poor farm boy from Kansas being the ultimate working class hero.

I’m thrilled the series takes place 5 years earlier and we’ll see the early Superman develop (while in the Superman series we see his current, modern status quo). The powers, the costume, the naïve/cocky attitude—it all works for me.

Lex appears to be spot-on, and I’m anxious to get to know Lois and Jimmy all over again. Morrison in just a few pages seems to have redefined Jimmy & Clark’s relationship and I love him for that. He said in an interview that he likes the competent, capable Jimmy that perhaps bites off more than he can chew and YES!, that is exactly how it should be.

As a #1 issue, this issue delivered in every way possible. Even with so many pages with no dialogue, I still felt like this dumped a tremendous amount of story & information to the reader which I what I require. Action Comics may be shaping up as DC’s best comic I suspect.

Cobie Comparison: Did I enjoy it more than Justice League #1? Oh yes.

Loved it! Loved it! Loved it!

What amazes me, is that the reviews that I have seen of Action #1 that are negative seem to totally not get this fact. They think instead (from teh ones that I have seen) that Grant is ttrying to make him cool and hip. Blows my mind how you can consider yourself good enough to go out and review comics without having a single clue as to the history of Superman.

I find myself enjoying this much-less-super Superman.

Was it my favorite of the week? No. That honor goes to ANIMAL MAN, believe it or not.

But this issue was SO retro, it's hard not to be charmed by it!

Superman #1

Okay, this is book is going to divide DC fans. I've read some online rants calling this issue "long and boring". It's more of a character study than an action comic. The Daily Planet is completely redefined for the modern age. The book had a lot of interesting things to say about modern journalism and media. Lois stole the show and I couldn't be more thrilled. Superman/Clark has a stubborn streak, principles, and a bit of a chip on his shoulder. Lots of people aren't going to like it. For me, it was fascinating and ranks with Action as the strongest book of the relaunch. For the character of Superman, this really is a relaunch. It's a bold attempt to keep the character alive, vibrant and relevant. As a lifelong fan of Superman, who has been bored these past few years, I'm moved to emotion by the fact that I'm feeling excited by all this and enjoying it so much.

Once again, I totally agree with Jerry. Although I've not been a lifelong Superman fan as he's been, I'm a fan of what I saw in SUPERMAN #1. It's a great companion to ACTION #1.

I also agree with Jerry and LT, as Superman #1 exceeded my expectations in a big way. I perhaps had unfair misgivings about Perez writing but dont mind being proved wrong by a tightly scripted, intricate plot that was full of characterization.

As LT says, this is a great companion piece to Action #1. I'm loving the characterization of Superman and Lois who are being written better than they have been in years. This really is the Superman of the Golden Age, chip on his shoulder and all, yet more modern than he has been since that period.

I love the media element Perez played up which should always be a strong part of a Superman series. Perez makes no qualms about the complexity of the subject, both morally and adapting to changing times.

The art was great and Superman looked fantastic.

Really impressed with the Superman relaunch in general.

I also checked out Supergirl #1 last night to complete my review of all the Superman titles; it was definitely the weakest of all the Super-comics but certainly not among the worst of the DCnU. Getting right into what was wrong with, the issue was a bit thin with not too much happening; much like Justice League there was a writing for the trade mentality where the first issue could have / should have been the first 14 pages. And that's a tough criticism to overcome.

The tone of mystery and urgency is captured well, though, and unlike Superboy (which I liked more) there is a sense that what's happening here must be dealt with immediately. The battle with the 'troopers' was a little by the numbers for a Kryptonian flexing their power set but two things made it stand out: the one trooper yelling for the others to stop because she's just a kid, and the gradual flood of energy from the sun rising to cause Kara's powers to kick in. That last bit was done especially well.

The artwork was very nice IMO and reminded me of a rookie Olivier Copiel. I liked the energy and sense of momentum on the page. I actually like Kara's costume--not as good as her skirt but at least it isn't boring. The funky boots / knee cap window was odd but grew on me.

Definitely not the best relaunch but I still liked it enough to continue. We didn't learn a tone about Supergirl, but I expect we will next issue with the interaction with Superman.

Did I like as much as JL #1? the same.

Action Comics #2

There's a lesson here about posting online reviews of comic books that you enjoy. I gave issue #1 an A+. I should have been more conservative. A+ is as high as you can go, right? So what can I say, now that I've discovered that I liked issue #2 even better than issue #1?

Luthor is being portrayed as a villain fully realized. His motivations are clear. His darkness is tangible. His insistence on calling Superman "it" just makes me furious at him -- each time he does it.

A couple of surprises with characters being referred to as doctor. Both of them so obviously intelligent in previous incarnations, that there should be no question of their PhD worthiness. Oh yeah, that just feels right.

Lois being manipulative to get what she wants? We haven't seen that in years. There's your argument in favor of doing away with the marriage. Lois Lane is Lois Lane again. Welcome back, girl. I missed you.

Superman, himself, I'm falling in love with. That's a pretty stunning cliffhanger of a final panel, if that's who I think it is...

What could make it better? How about eight pages of professionally produced and sleekly presented "behind the scenes" information? Okay, we've got that too.

Let's call it another A+.

Action Comics is officially one of my "must read first" books of the new 52. I feel that this title is successfully shaking up what we know about Superman and making him a more dynamic character while still not being too disrespectful of what's come before. If this is the start of Clark and Lex's relationship in the new continuity, you can definitely see where the dynamics they're known for are coming from. Lex's insistence on calling Clark "it" and his ensuing break-out set the stage for why Luthor may become so obsessed with Superman in the years to come. Here we also see, as always, the level of persuasion and control Lex seems to have over his fellow lab workers. We even get a great appearance by Mr. Irons, who looks to be treated with a great deal of respect for the past Steel by having him be the genius who could walk away from such a project when it crosses ethical lines. A great treatment for Steel but even better, it sets the stage for why Irons would be a Superman sympathizer and could one day assist him as Steel again.

Lois was wonderful in this, showing the tenacity she has that suits her well as a reporter. She's going to get to the bottom of what's going on ...or else! A nice throwback to the Lois Lane of old while not making her seem deranged or completely obsessive.

The preview art was great and makes me actually excited to get a glimpse of Krypton. Despite the exotic locale, flashbacks of or tech from Krypton has always been a snoozefest for me when I checked out Superman stories in the past. Couldn't exactly tell you the reason, but the visuals look enticing enough.

Loving this Superman relaunch a lot. I'd give it an A or A+ as well. I walked away with the same surprise with the book at #2 as I did with #1 - an impressive feat.

Supergirl #1 was... okay. Basically, she woke up, she got into a fight, she's winning, Superman turns up. A bit... empty.

Finally caught up to Action #1. I really enjoyed most of it, especially how fresh it felt compared to traditional takes on the character. The art by Rags Morales was really nice. I've liked his art for a good while, so it was good to see him on such an iconic top-tier book.

I actually like Superman in short sleeves! The "official" DCnU costume is pretty much meh to me, but the t-shirt and showing off his muscles is refreshing! Too bad it's temporary.

What kind of torpedoed the book for me and made it less than an absolute smash was the train sequence. There were just aspects of the storytelling there that did not make sense to me and failed to do so in rereads of the sequence. How did Clark know the train was in danger, and if so, why did he wait to do something after the call with Jimmy? What was the thug on the train supposed to be doing? Where was the bomb planted--on the train or the bridge?

And that's not even including the massive suspension of disbelief we are asked to do with several train cars staying all together flying thru the air and thru a building and with Lex Luthor having apparently meticulously planning all these random elements to take down Superman.

The problem was that all of it took me out of the story and just puzzled me when it shouldn't have. I liked everything else about the issue, but my problems with that centerpiece sequence downgraded a solid "A" issue into a "B" grade for me.

According to DC Comics site, Legion to appear in ACTION COMICS #5 and #6:

"Fresh off of his bestselling FLASHPOINT miniseries, industry legend Andy Kubert will be joining critically acclaimed writer Grant Morrison for a special, two-issue arc of ACTION COMICS in DC COMICS-THE NEW 52. Issues #5 and #6 will guest star the Legion of Super-Heroes, while also laying groundwork for things to come much, much later in Superman’s story. And keep an eye out for Krypto!"

I totally agree with what you said. #2 was better in that there was not "huh?" moments.

^ Thanks, Quis--at least I now know it wasn't just me!

Is there anyone out there who had the same problems? Was there something that Quis and I missed?!?!

In its story about Keith Giffin taking over Superman with #7, comicbookmovies.com refers to George Perez' #1 as being "critically panned."

WHERE was the book panned, I wonder. Personally, I thought it was the best book of the New 52 by about a million miles.

which reminds me...I gotta buy those Action #1 and 2....and KRYPTO!!!!!!!!!!!!! arf arf!!!!

Action Comics #2 was great. Art and story were spectacular.

I tried to read Superman #1 at B&N...man. I complain about the padding done in a lot of comics that seem to be written for the trade nowadays...but this was way too far the other way, I barely got through the introduction of Jimmy before putting it back on the shelf. Way too much exposition.

I kind of like the direction DC has gone with Superman. I really liked the DC Archives of Golden Age Superman and was left in awe of how good they were. Why did Superman change over time? Why is Superman not written like this today? I ended up asking my questions on another forum. However, I also like the Silver Age because of the Kryptonian villains. Perhaps as Superman encounters foes that can rival him in physical power, that will create character development as he is forced to think strategically.

Superman #2 was another decent issue. It certainly is a throwback to an earlier time when an issue took more than a few minutes to plow into, though I don't think this one was as slanted in the expository direction as the first issue.

The plot was pretty standard, but fun, and I like the way they are playing Lois. Obviously New Krypton's out the window because General Lane's back as a foil for Supes, and his scenes are actually pretty good for a character I didn't like the last time around.

It's certainly not at the level of Action Comics, but then again how can that be a fair comparison? For a decent Superman comic that has him being Superman, this is a good read.

RE: Superman #2

Loved everything about it.

Let me just say, I friggin' worship George Perez... the man can do no wrong in my book... but jeez Superman #2 was wordy... I know folks usually complain about the opposite, but still... if Perez was getting paid by the word, DC would go broke... that said, I loved the story (even though it reminded me a lot of an early Byrnes tale)... it also reminded me of some of my favorite Perez-helmed Wonder Woman issues... the art is beautiful... shame to hear that Perez is leaving after a few issues... I hope it's not a drastic shift from what he is establishing in this book...

3 1/2 fins up

Supergirl #2 had a lot of similarities to the first issue in that it was a bit light on plot but still remained a fun read. We see the obviously coming battle with Superman which hopefully gets that out of the way. In the process we continue to get a feel for this Kara and watch her develop her powers. I'm actually looking forward to further meeting her.

I'm also starting to like the new costume. I think it works well, and is close enough to classic to be entirely Supergirl.

Action Comics #3 was another good issue, if a little light (the extras don't make up for the extra dollar).

Clark is in the dumps. Beat up physically, harassed personally, and in jeopardy professionally, he tries to deal with a world that's equally against him and Superman. how could things get worse?

How about Brainiac, Luthor and Metallo coming at him at the same time? Oh, yeah.

I really liked the little touches this issue. Brainiac using "White Dwarf" lenses for the shrinking, the ghost of a white dog, etc.

Who wants to lay odds that Clark's secret informant is Perry White, unable to publish the goods on Glenmorgan himself?

Hopefully the Legion shows up soon to pull Clark out of his funk.

RE: Action #3

Our first glimpses of Krypton were beautiful. The opening sequence could have gone on for the whole issue, and I would have been satisfied. If that white dog is Krypto, we're going to get a much more bad ass version in this reality.

I found Superman #3 unsatisfying. I really liked the first issue, and the second was decent enough, but this feels like padding. Nothing new happened in this issue that we didn't glean from previous ones: The Galaxy corp is like Rupert Murdoch's empire, the reporters are conflicted about how to operate as journalists in that environment, Aliens are looking for Superman and attacking him in different guises. All of these were interesting ideas, that aren't moved forward all that much here. There wasn't even a clever attempt to defeat this Alien (It's an cold alien, let's use my heat vision on it's host). I don't even buy the angst Clark gets for potentially killing her as we a) know she'll be back next issue, and b) Clark probably should have found her that nearby with his vision powers.

Did anyone else think that the cover of Superman #3 made it look like he was wearing a Super-athletic Supporter over his blue suit? The little red lines going under his butt and the wide red belt at his waist.....

Superman has been getting grief about his jockstrap from the very beginning:

Letter of complaint

RE: Superman #3


A warm welcome to Nicola Scott on pencils. So far, DC appears to be sincere in their efforts to get the new books out on time with quality artwork. I especially liked her take on Clark and look forward to seeing much more of her work in the future.

Oh! They color corrected all the copies of the cover that are online. No more little red straps under his tushy now!

Action #4 was a fun issue. Basically a full issue fight scene as the Terminaughts, led by Metallo, invade Metropolis both looking for Superman and to prepare the city it for bottling. Steel makes a great debut, and will make a great foil for Metallo. I also loved the throwback scene of Clark "Panicking" and running away, abandoning Lois and Jimmy when the robots show up. Luthor's extended panic attack was fun, but I'd rather see him get a hold of himself soon and manipulate the situation to his advantage.

Brainiac was really creepy, though what does his new look mean for Coluans?

Edit to add: I loved, loved loved how it didn't end with "Oh crap, we're screwed," but a "Hold on everyone, I've got a plan...". That's SO Superman.

I'm glad that Brainiac is being introduced early. I would so love to see the people responsible for making live action Superman movies use Brainiac as a villain rather than always falling on Luthor. Brainiac's creepy new look would be great for the big screen. Morales continues to knock my socks off.

Lois, the Spam story's not working....

Reviews for Action #6 in the Legion forum here:

http://www.legionworld.net/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=622099

Action Comics #7 brings us back to the main story as Superman needs to get to the Collector's ship and then is faced with a choice between saving Kandor and saving New Troy (a Borough or Metropolis). Of course, he's Superman, his answer is "screw you, I'm saving everyone."

I liked it quite a bit, although it was a bit more "standard" fare than the heady mix of the last few issues, but it's still fun to see the threads come together.

RE: Superman #7

Thumbs up for Giffen and Jurgens fist issue. I had forgotten what a good match Dan Jurgens' pencils are for the Man of Steel. Snappy dialogue, a new villain, Jimmy has bed bugs, and Lois is catty about...

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">a visit from her sister, Lucy !!!</span></span>

Short blonde, Zero fashion sense.

Ouch !!

ACTION COMICS #9- The Curse of Superman
by Grant Morrison & Gene Ha

Put simply, issues like this one are why I read and love comics! I didn't want it to end.

This *was* really good! Everything about it was great from start to finish, and Gene Ha is the perfect fill-in artist for Morrison's Action.

The current storyline, with Clark Kent "dead" has been okay. I'm not overly enthusiastic about it, but am willing to wait for the next President Superman type story. I do like the idea of Superman as a firefighter, though.

I really enjoyed the back-up in #11, featuring the "origin of Superman's blue t-shirt costume". It was very 50's / Silver Agey, and had a lot of charm. Perfect for an 8 page story.

Oddly, I liked the redesign of Captain Comet. I've never been partial to the character before, but I liked his new costume.

And I liked the revelation behind Superman's rent lady, and that the little man isn't who we thought.

what's he look like????!

I believe he's on the cover of #12.

TY!

I Read SUPERMAN 12 tonight. I'm still enjoying it.

The Action Comics #0 issue was outstanding. The Ben Oliver artwork was gorgeous. I'm so enjoying the characterization of Jimmy, Lois, and Clark. On her first encounter with the "S" symbol, Lois's first thought is "story." Lois should always be portrayed as a gutsy, competitive, and instinctive journalist first. Morrison gets that. The second story gives us more back story on the new Capatain Comet to keep the main story line moving. Nicely executed.

Action Comics #13 - Great issue as a lot of the threads start to come together, with Kal, Krypto and the Phantom Stranger stuck in the zone, while an escaped Zone criminal prepares to rampage across the Earth.

I agree, Dave. Travel Foreman's interpretations of Krypton, the Phantom Zone, and the Fortress were unique and interesting. I enjoyed his stylized Superman.

I'm delighted to see that Krypto's story was presented so clearly. Last month's Supergirl zero issue was also clear. The post Flashpoint DC Universe has established early and unambiguously that Kara and Krypto, like Kal El, are survivors of Krypton. We know how they got here. No muss. No fuss. That's a good thing.

The Krypto back up story was all kinds of touching. Tissue, please.

Pretty angry that DC canned Superman Family Adventures. My kids will be crushed. It was a great book, with such great potential. DC's really trying hard to drive me away.

I called my comic book shop and asked that Action and Superman be dropped from my pull. I sent an e-mail message to DC explaining that I will not be buying these comics anymore because of their decision to hire Orson Scott Card to write the new digital Superman book. I will not support a loud mouthed homophobic activist writing Superman. Not directly. Not indirectly. Not with my money. Not now. Not ever. Clear enough, DC?

I'm not reading DC anymore. This is just the latest or the last straw. I'll only have to give up World's Finest. Which has been good but ... its more like running on a treadmill instead of running outdoors.

I've been periodically reading Batwoman and Wonder Woman but ... I don't mind dropping those.

So it's reported now that Chris Sprouse has declined to draw the Orson Scott Card story and its been pushed back until at least issue #2. How long before DC cut their losses and walk away from the project?

good for him.

Sprouse just gets more and more awesome.

Gratitude to Mr. Sprouse.

https://twitter.com/andydiggle/status/314419145120825344

Not even sugar-coating it as "personal" reasons, huh? And this before he even had an issue published...

In other news, Supergirl #18 has an entirely different creative team not merely from what was solicited, but from what's on the cover!

Chaos in the Superman office?

It'd be funny if it all wasn't so sad.

So DC has been just about dead to me for some time. But that troublesome nostalgia I sometimes feel for my childhood is always lurking in the back of my mind, itching to get me to revisit those wonderful years. I *want* to love DC again, I really do.

One reason to at least check something out from the company is my main man, Johnny Romita Jr. has at long last jumped ship to DC to work on characters he's never drawn before--and he starts with the biggest one of them all, Superman. He's joined by ol' "nose candy & mutilated body parts" Geoff Johns, which would have been a good thing in 2005 but not so much anymore.

Anyway, I'm actually liking what I'm seeing so far! Johns appears to have reigned in his schlock for now, and is giving it his all, with a pretty interesting story and a great focus on Superman's real supporting cast (re: the Daily Planet, not the fucking Justice League).

JR Jr. is phenomenal as always () and he's doing a great job showing a very strong, iconic Superman in his own style. He hasn't really been given the chance to draw any action-centric sequences thus far, which is a shame, since he comes from that school of art that is heavy on the stylized, kinetic energy and less interested in the quiet, talking-head namby-pamby modern style. But I'm hoping the story will eventually get us there.

For the first time in forever, I'm loving Clark Kent and the Daily Planet, and that is what is most important to me thus far.

It's only two issues in, so things could go to total shit easily enough (and at DC, that is usually the norm), but I'm hoping this remains an enjoyable, fun ride.

What happens when Brain Globes grow too big for their spheres....

So I picked up two weeks of comics yesterday and the first ones I wanted to read? Superman and Action Comics. That hasn't happened in like 20 years. I'm just enjoying them both that much.

It's surprising because of how relunctant I was to embrace this confusing status quo. But the solid writing has pulled it off. I am really loving the father-son dynamic between Supes and John, and the mother-son dynamic with Lois and John. And I really just missed the married Superman and Lois. That family dynamic anchors the series here, and it keeps me comfortable as the creators obviously work towards re-establishing their lives (with the Daily Planet, etc).

Tomasi is especially good on Superman. Meanwhile, Jurgens is writing an interesting Lex Luthor on Action, and the artwork is great on both--I'm really liking Tyler Kirkham's dynamic work on Action.

All in all, the two series are succeeding for me more than anything because they have a sense of heart again.

I've put Action on my pull list, as I've been digging the vibe, though I hope they pick up the pace a little bit. Pulling in back issues to catch up, I I realized I don't have 959, and it didn't seem to impact the story at all!

A reminder:

Superwoman #1, by my dream team of Phil Jimenez (writer & co-artist) and Emanuela Lupacchino (co-artist) is scheduled to arrive in stores on August 10th.

In the meantime, I'd suggest that a mod alter the title of this thread to include Superwoman. Thanks in advance.

It might merit its own thread.

Good point, Lardy. I certainly *hope* it turns out to be that good! In the meantime, maybe I could review the early Superwoman issues in my Emanuela Lupacchino thread?

I'd say, read it and do what feels most appropriate based on your reaction to it.

That sounds like the best option. Will do. Thanks, Lardy.

I have to say that I'm enjoying the state of the Super titles so much that I'm really looking forward to Superwoman and Supergirl!

(And a new thread sounds like a great idea!)

I'm really enjoying New Super-Man. It's a lot better than I was willing to give the writer credit for considering "Truth" and I'm wondering who else is going to show up in the Justice League of China.

I'm enjoying it too. It's nice to have a superhero series firmly planted in the "fun" category without being too over the top comedy-wise.

The Wonder Woman of China is great so far!

Action continues to impress me. Just a nice simple Superman story, living up to it's title.

This week's Action focused on the new Clark Kent, with internal dialogue from him, which reveals that he really believes he's Clark, he's never been Superman, and he's getting pretty annoyed that people don't believe him. Evidence mounts that his memories are somehow planted (obvious to the reader because we know he didn't exist prior to Rebirth). Interesting mystery, and a fun scene where Superman has to save a falling Clark Kent.

I'm looking forward to reading that!

I mentioned this in the Rebirth thread, but I thought the finale to the first Superman arc was terrific. It left me very much looking forward to what comes next.

Also, since this thread includes Supergirl, I'll add that I liked Supergirl #1 quite a bit too! The artwork by Brian Ching was stellar and the colors by Michael Atiyeh really popped. Kara's struggles with being a Kryptonian living in the modern USA are a good metaphor for struggles all teenagers have, and I really liked how they are setting up the series in general. The interplay with her "new parents" is unlike anything done with Supergirl before and its got me interested.

This week's Action was the first real clunker for me. Not because it was poorly written, but because there was nothing revealed we didn't already know: The new Clark really believes he's actually Clark, he's completely human, and something strange is going on with the company he's investigating. Hopefully things step back up soon.

I'm keeping an eye out for the Superman: Lois & Clark TPB that sets up the Rebirth scenario for Superman. I know it features Lee Weeks on art, who is one of the most underrated but hugely talented artists of the past 2 decades, so that's a big draw. And, of course, dan Jurgens knows his way around a Superman story. Anyone read it and can say whether it's worth getting?

YES.

It was one of the only enjoyable books that came out during the DC You period and a breath of fresh air compared to what was going on in the other Super books.

Loved Superman #7! (The County Fair Issue) My favorite comic of September.

Regarding Action, I still enjoyed it. A bit of a dud in not providing any new information, but I'm certainly hoping that changes with the next issue.

My theory:



New Super-Man continues to be a lot of fun too! I like the "Chinese Freedom Fighters" idea. It instantly made me think of EDE and Lash as people who would love it.

Sueprman #8 was pretty fun. Superboy's working on his science fair project, a drone who's design came to him in a dream. When does that ever work out?

The drone comes to life, tries to absorb Kryptonian tech from the fortress, and then transports Superman, Superboy, and Krypto to Dinosaur Island. WWII wreckage and Dino-fighting abounds. It was fun to see the Supers taking care not to kill their saurian attackers. He really is the pre-Flashpoint Superman.

This issue ends with Superboy discovering what appears to be the final resting place of the Losers, with a final message to Rick Flag (Sr.) scrawled on a cave wall.

The issue was dedicated to Darwyn Cooke.

I enjoyed Superman #8 also. Another really solid issue that was just fun from start to finish. And the tribute to Darwyn, whose death hit me harder than any comic book related death I can think of, really was a nice touch.

Over in Action this week, Lois goes undercover as "New 52 Lois" to follow up on the note left for her in Superman #2 (and the subsequent dreams she's been having about her). In an attempt to get access to New52 Lois' computer, she heads to the Planet, where she's swarmed by people wondering where the hell she's been. Luthor (the new owner of the Planet) orders her to find out who the "new" Superman is, and the Clark doppleganger confronts her about not reaching out to him after he returned. "Clark" also manages to accidentally spill coffee on her computer rendering her trip useless.

She follows up by trying to get to Lois' personal laptop at her apartment, but is confronted in the cliffhanger by an angry Superwoman, who knows New52 Lois is dead and wants to know who's impersonating her friend/rival.

A better issue than last time, with Lois getting some welcome focus. The Super books really seem to be working as both as individual titles and a cohesive whole right now.

Yeah, they really are, and its enhancing the enjoyment of all of them. I really loved the way this Lois-centric issue was presented, making all the crazy continuity feel enjoyable like continuity used to feel. Lois has been overdue for some solid story-telling and this was greatly appreciated. I like the idea of Action shifting between Lex, Lois and others, as well as of course Superman on an arc by arc basis.

Like the main Superman series, which is my current favorite comic, Action continues to be fun and interesting every two weeks.

The last two issues of Superman have basically been a dry run for the Super Sons series and a pretty fun little arc. Damian (in an obvious tip of the hat to BvS) doesn't trust Jon or his powers and tries to intervene. While Batman and Superman try and work things out, the boys get into it, causing Batman and Alfred to set up "Boot Camp" for them to bond over. It doesn't go quite as expected, though the relationship between Jon and Damian does start to evolve, status quo at the end certainly doesn't have them as best buds.

If these issues are any indication, I'm prepared to flat out love the Super Sons series. I just love the way Tomasi writes the father / son relationships between both Super Sons and their dads, plus the relationship with each other, plus the Bats - Supes friendship. Throw in Nobody and Damien's crazy ass demon gargoyle thing and I can read this series all day.

Superman has probably emerged as my favorite comic right now. Putting aside any real type of analysis, I just feel really great whenever I read it. Tone, characters, pacing, art, dialogue...all of it is just blending together wonderfully.

So I'm still loving New Super-Man and I'm wondering if there'll be any more members of the Chinese Freedom Fighters showing up.

At the same time it looks like the March solicits are hinting we'll be seeing the emergence of Superman Red and Blue... and maybe Prime as well.

I flipped thru this at Books-A-Million a few days ago--it is flippin' GORGEOUS!!! I almost bought it as part of a Buy 2-Get 3rd Free TPB promotion they had. But even that deal doesn't approach In-Stock Trades' everyday pricing, so I passed. (Plus, there's my self-imposed ban on buying trades for a while--see my "Pile" thread.) It was tempting, though. Lee Weeks definitely did some of his best work!

Yeah the Lois and Clark mini is one of the best Superman comics in the last few years. It's a direct continuation of the Convergence miniseries and it's not just "Let's see how often we can compare the pre and post Flashpoint Supermen and the pre-Flashpoint Superman comes out better." There's definitely some commentary on how stupid the Nu52 was but it mainly just focuses on Lois, Clark, and their son Jon.

...and the art is GORGEOUS!

Don't mistake me for an art-first comic fan, but when an artist draws something so RIGHT, he or she deserves some recognition! Weeks is a very fundamentally talented "old school" artist, and this is a great showcase for him.

Meanwhile I have to say I've genuinely enjoyed the first arc of New Super-Man from start to finish. I love the characters and the designs, and now I'm wondering if there'll be any more analogs in the Justice League of China or the Chinese Freedom Fighters.

In this week's Superman, someone is collecting the Multiversal Supermen, and have come to Earth-0 to look for New Super-Man (Which makes sense, since Superman himself isn't from Earth-0). Justice League Incarnate shows up, including President Superman, and with the help of Red Son Superman, they start looking for answers. Shaping up to be a fun story. Love the Multiversity characters returning.

I just hope Tomasi doesn't do anything with the 7 Unknown Earths.

I called dibs!

I wonder how beneficial it would be to have The Final Days of Superman collection. This is, of course, the storyline that ended the New 52 Superman and set up the pre-52 Superman being front and center. The latter even appears in said story, though I don't know how significant his role is. I'm sure it's not essential to enjoying Rebirth Superman stories, but I'm nonetheless curious about its quality and worthiness to read. Thoughts?

Final Days bridges the gap between "Lois & Clark" and Rebirth, but most of the important points are recapped in the first Rebirth issues. I honestly haven't read it so can't comment on quality, but not reading it has not impacted my enjoyment of the Rebirth Superman books in the slightest.

Yeah, I'm not surprised that reading it is non-essential, but I am curious as to whether it's worthwhile.

I can't help either--I passed on everything pre-Rebirth (and have no interest in it). It definitely hasn't hurt my enjoyment of the relaunch.

I really enjoyed it too. The artwork by Ivan Reis and Joe Prado, perhaps the current best art team in comics, also took it to a whole other level too.

Tomasi blends together New Super-Man, Red Son Superman, President Superman and the other Multiversity characters nicely. I haven't been reading the solicitations anymore so this caught me totally by surprise when I opened it. Really good stuff!

And the prior two parter with Frankenstein and the Bride of Frankenstein was also an unexpected pleasure. Some very good story choices being done by the Superman creators these days.

Tweaked costume for April, post-"Superman Reborn". Red boots, yellow belt buckle, no metal cuffs. Looks a fair bit like the N52 Earth-2 costume.

http://www.cbr.com/superman-15-exclusive-preview/

The one thing I specifically asked was for them to leave the 7 blank Earths alone. The ONE thing.

Justice League of Assassins. That was the best they could do for Earth-14. Another cannon fodder universe. This is the same reason Countdown Arena sucked.

I'm so angry and upset right now.

So Superman and the JLIncarnate decide to go world hopping and collect as many Supermen as they can before Prophecy does, and then use them to lure him out. When he arrives, the rest take off in the Ultima Thule (presumably to go free the others while he's distracted), leaving our Superman to face off against him.

Fun little story, though I would have appreciated a "Where the Hell are you from?" as the JLI realise our Superman isn't really from any of the existing 52.

I enjoyed the JLIncarnate story quite a lot myself, and I loved the one-off story featuring John and Kathy in the swamp the following issue. Totally different tones but equally exciting and fun stories.

Action Comics continues to be really good too, and I'm enjoying the heavy focus on Lois that we've been getting every other arc. The Superwoman / Steel appearance felt almost like a non-sequitor but I can see their using the appearance at the Fortress to set up the next story-arc. I'm more interested in finding out the truth about "Clark Kent" once and for all.

Lastly, Super Sons was just about the most fun comic I've read in ages. I saw Dave's facebook this morning and the comment about how his kids have read it so many times that he may have to buy a new issue since its falling apart. I love that, and I think it's inspired me to read it to my boys too. It's a fantastic issue, satisfying to both adults and kids, and I love the relationship between Robin and Superboy. And I loved, loved, loved that ending scene.

I am starting to get really confused by DC continuity. I tried reading Superboy's wikipedia entry for a reference and I am unsure of the characters' current standing or how many versions existed. Is the situation that Jon Kent and Kon-El can't exist at the same time in the universe? I know Connor's origin has gone through the retcon blender before that (Johns made his fanboy dream reality by making him Luthor's son too).

The New 52 version of Conner was a complete mess, so they've set him aside to focus on Clark's son Jon as the new Superboy (Who, BTW isn't the Jon from the New 52 Superboy series).

Superman Reborn ended by changing continuity to pull the Convergence Clark, Lois & Jon into the New-52, essentially merging their pasts with that of their New-52 Counterparts. While I liked the Rebirth status quo up until now, I do understand it wasn't a tenable position for Superman in terms of accessibility: "He's Superman, but from older stories, who's replacing the Superman from this universe is who's dead. So he's not the REAL Superman in this Universe, but he's the real Superman to us readers."

With this new blended history, Jon will have always been a part of the New-52, and presumably the "Smiths" go away in favour of the Kents. The next few months promise to show the ramifications of all of this (Like what Clark's history with Luthor, the League and Legion is now).

Also, the threat from Mars (Dr. Manhattan), may not be happy that the reality it created is being messed with.

Well the threat from Mars should've stuck to burning ants with a magnifying glass instead of screwing up the DCU.

Hm. Weird. I don't know if this tightens things up or muddies the waters a lot more than they needed to be. How was this achieved within the story? And will Clark, Lois and Jon no longer remember their pre-Flashpoint Earth?

Ugh. I kinda hate this the more I try to wrap my brain around it....

Short Answer - Mxyzptlk.

Here's the new reality splash page at the end of the book:

How many reality shifts is that now for Superman?

Let's see... not sure if Earth-2/GA -> Earth-1/Silver Age counts, since it wasn't intended as a shift at the time however many retcons it included. And "Return to Krypton" failed/was undone.

So:
1) Crisis
2) Zero Hour
3) Superman #200/Birthright
4) Infinite Crisis/Secret Origin
5) New 52
6) Superman: Reborn

...and I feel like I'm missing AT LEAST one or two. Wasn't there another origin revamp between Birthright & Secret Origin?

Thanks Reboot. I was getting the feeling that we were becoming more frequent. Poor editorial vision? desperate marketing? no one cares, if it sells? rotating creative teams? constantly better ideas?

Well, as I've stated, I'm reading DC Rebirth under the pretense that I'm pretending that everything before Rebirth #1 didn't happen so as not to be bogged down by the past. And in a way, the resolution the other Clark / Mxy / continuity combining story doesn't really bother me at all, and I'm cool with it. As long as the Clark & Lois (& John) of the current series can continue as is and firmly take the place of the complete and total versions of Superman and Lois then I'm happy. For me, it's almost like getting this out of the way now so Tomasi and company can keep telling great stories.

Still remains my #1.

And Action has continued to be great too.

I guess if they're portrayed essentially the same way they've been since the new status quo had been established, I guess it's alright. I just don't think it was all that confusing.

I think how this had been portrayed from the Lois & Clark mini until now makes it clear this wasn't intended all along. And it was some nice comfort food, being thrown a bone for those of us missing the pre-Flashpoint DC.

Latest issue of Action does a brief rundown of Superman's "restored" history, basically blending Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis, Convergence, Ne 52 & Rebirth. It basically follows Johns' Secret Origin for the most part, then Jurgens' "Death Of" (Eradicator, Cyborg, Coast City destruction: in, Superboy: out). The marriage is followed by Jon's birth and then a period of semi-retirement with the black suit (Lois & Clark Mini), leading into the NEW-52 stuff. What isn't mentioned one way or the other is the Legion, which I'm sure is on purpose to keep us guessing.

Superman #26 was fantastic father / son issue. Incorporating flashbacks between a young Clark and Pa Kent, and the present relationship between Jon and Superman--especially in light of recent events--it is yet another terrific done-in-one issue with a lot of heart.

Meanwhile, I think Action Comics is doing a great story that truly puts Superman in peril by teaming up so many high profile / top tier villains all at once. Between them and the inevitable (and still awesome) Superman Emergency Squad, this story is really living up to its name! What I like best though is that each of the villains maintains their unique personality at all times, and is able to stand on their own. Particularly Zod, Cyborg Superman and Eradicator, though that isn't too much of a surprise.

I can't believe they included Selena in the current Supergirl series.

Love the Guillem March artwork in the latest Action Comics issue featuring Superman and Lex.

I saw Selena in Supergirl but I can't remember where she's from. Honestly, I'm having a hard time sticking with Supergirl. I like it well enough but it's kind of lost my interest. It's one of those series that I'm glad exist but have come to realize that in its current form, really isn't for me.

Selena was the villain in the Supergirl movie. I'm mostly onboard with the title just to see how the Fatal Five stuff plays out and incrementally moves Legion stuff forward, but Orlando isn't my cuppa as a writer.

I've been thinking on this a lot, but I've figured out one of the reasons why I think Peter David's run on Supergirl is decent is due to it being clear he was putting effort into the series and actually gave a crap.

Extreme changes to characters like the Earth-Angel story are often done as a pathetic attempt to boost sales through sensationalism, and there's usually no heart or genuine care put into the story. Peter David's Supergirl feels more like a labor of love and a genuine attempt to do a different kind of Supergirl story on the grounds of wanting to explore new aspects of the concept. Did all this come about because he didn't have access to Kara Zor-El? Maybe. But he took the time to dismantle the idea of a dark, murderous Supergirl and crafted a story about redemption with a flawed heroine (flawed as in one who was not the squeaky clean misconception of Supergirl) but still strove to be a good, heroic person.

Pardon me if I barge in here with something I just posted on Martin Pasko's FB page...

As I read somewhere of late... JUST when National Periodical Publications was trying to put its own "organized crime" roots behind them, they were bought by Kinney-- a NEW YORK MOB company. Kinney also bought Warner Brothers movie studio.

Kinney changed their name to 'Warner Communications" in order to put distance between themselves and... THEMSELVES.

JACK KIRBY commented on this when he had Morgan Edge's Global Broadcating Systems (GBS) buy the Daily Planet, and the first thing Edge tried to do was have Clark Kent & Jimmy Olsen MURDERED. Edge, of course, was secretly a member of INTERCRIME-- a syndicate who actually worked as agents of DARKSEID.

The second Kirby left JIMMY OLSEN, others in editorial, horrified at the implications, concocted a completely convoluted story in which they tried to reveal that the murderous Edge was a clone imposter, and the "real" Edge had been a prisoner all that time.

YEAH, RIGHT.

Good news, they’ve announced the return of Super Sons with Tomasi. Bad news, it’s a 12 issue maxi. But at least it means Jon will be around post- Man of Steel. Unlike many, I wasn’t worried about Lois. Jon was another story.

Never mind. It’s a flashback series “that transcends current events.“ Back to worrying. Maybe even more so.

Did anyone care about anything that happened in Man of Steel?

What happened in it?

I don't know *how* this news passed me by, but the current Bendis Superman arc in Action Comics, which began with last month's issue #1007, is drawn by my boy *Steve Epting*! AC #1008 is scheduled to be in stores this coming Wednesday, February 27th!

If it's Steve, then I don't care whether Bendis drops the ball on the story itself. Simple as that, because that's how much I love Steve's style!

And, in belated reply to these unanswered questions in this thread:



Not I.



Nothin' much, not much.

Pretty much everything in the latest Man of Steel miniseries was setup for Bendis' ongoing stories in Superman and Action.

Introduce the big baddy (who is now stuck in the Phantom Zone without answering plot threads of who he is or why he hated Kryptonians so much), get rid of Jon Kent (except now he's back as a late teen/young adult), introduce new crime syndicate (which carried on in Action Comics but without any clear resolution, just further change and progression).

I'm kind-of enjoying Bendis stories, sort-of. Someone described his writing as a very slow burn approach and that it is. Stuff happens, things change a bit, but it is all so slow with very few answers coming and those only raising more questions. Before this I would have said that I liked that approach, but this just feels too slow.

The biggest thing I disliked about Man of Steel?

One consequence that is somewhat interesting, Supergirl (not wriiten by Bendis) is off in space seeking answers, currently accompanied by a Coluan (not a Dox), with possible hints of a growing friendship or more.

I'm really enjoying Action Comics, where the Big Arcs are mostly put aside and he's simply telling good Superman stories.

Equally disinterested in the murder of Krypton plotline, although I'm enjoying the Supergirl arc that spun out of it. Maybe that will change when we discover his motive, but for now it's very blah.

I suspect that spoiler will be undone in the fullness of time, but not while Bendis is on the books.

I just found out from Sterling Gates how his Supergirl run would've brought back Linda Danvers.

First off, Flamebird and Nightwing from the New Krypton debacle were gonna be Linda and Conner Kent before they were switched with Thara Ak-Var and Chris Kent.

Second, you guys remember the annual with Kara and the Legion where she saw the museum display about her dying? Well that was going to happen, but it wasn't the end of Kara's story. She would've been trapped in Hell thanks to Lord Satanus. Meanwhile, Lana Lang and the soul of Alura Zor-El were gonna try and rescue Kara, but to do that they needed Linda's help to get into Hell.

Gates says he's not sure if Linda would've mentioned her meeting with the original Kara.

Those could have been great stories. Thanks for sharing, Sarky. And thanks for trying, Mr. Gates.

Hey guys, I recently wrote about Peter David's Supergirl run for comicosity

http://www.comicosity.com/from-earth-angel-to-the-grave-burying-peter-davids-supergirl/

Great article. Fascinating read. Really makes me want to go back and read that run.
I appreciated your comments on sacrifice as well. Good job.

Excellent article, Jude! PAD's Supergirl is very much worth revisiting and should be kept alive as much as possible by we, its avid fans. Such a powerful, transcendent work in the guise of a mainstream superhero comic.

Linda and Mae have always deserved far better than they've received.

Y'know a couple of years ago at Flame Con I asked Steve Orlando if Jeremiah and Eliza Danvers were related to Fred and Sylvia, on the off chance they could've been relatives in the vain hope Linda might receive a throwaway mention. Unfortunately no, the current Danverses were supposed to be new versions of Fred and Sylvia. All things considered I don't hold it against Orlando since I know how hard DC's editorial tries to act like Mae, Linda, and Cir-El are gone forever.

Beautifully done, Sarky. PAD is generalized so much as a "Marvel Creator," and DC has been so remiss in giving his work for them its due, that I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people aren't even aware he wrote lots of good stuff for DC in the late 90s/early 00s.

One of my personal favorite guest stars during this run is Mary Marvel, in the arc right before "Many Happy Returns." I love the sour-sweet banter between Linda and Mary.

Despite everything I knew Peter David from his DC stuff first (Supergirl and Young Justice and Aquaman) and his Marvel stuff second. I've only read a handful of Captain Marvel issues and that two-parter Avengers AU story with Scarlet Witch's kids and the Hulk ripping Tigra in half

Oh, my goodness! Well, I think a considerable portion of his Hulk run is absolutely essential, issues 331 to 426. His second run on X-Factor, from its beginning in 2005 to its very end in 2011, is also highly recommended.

And it goes without saying I hope you do essays on his Young Justice and Aquaman runs. Maybe you could also do Justice League Task Force 7-8, which was way ahead of its time in its gender-playfulness.

Peter David liked my article. He said it was very impressive and comprehensive.

Wow! That's great. Getting a positive response from the writer is very telling of the quality of you article.

YAY

I am not sure whether or not this is worth it's own thread, so I decided to post it here for now. Bendis has said he is leaving Superman. He didn't give an exact date but I guess it will be relatively soon: https://www.supermanhomepage.com/brian-michael-bendis-announces-hes-leaving-superman/

If he leaves Superman, does that mean he would leave Legion too as the two titles are historically intertwined? If that is the case, I wonder if the current version of the Legion would continue or moved to some alternative Earth like the Reboot/Threeboot/and portions of the Retroboot?

My guess is that the current version of the Legion won't survive Bendis's departure.

I don't think his leaving Superman necessarily means he's leaving the Legion any time soon, however.

I have mixed feelings about this. Bendis run on Superman has been interesting. There have been things he has done that I do not like and yet other times when I though he really got the character and understood what made him tick. How long has he been on? Two years about? It feels too soon to me. Then again when Byrne did his massive shake-up of Superman he only lasted about the same length of time and the team carrying on after he left did some wonderful things with the plot points he started. I am still uncertain with Bendis writing Superman revealing his identity and that in particular I would like to see him stay on to dive in to the consequences.

As for Legion I really really hope he doesn't leave that title yet. Feels like he has just gotten started. We are only 6 issues in (plus the appearances in Superman) and Bendis slow pacing means we haven't even completed one arc yet. I want to see where he plans for the story to go.

Bendis is leaving the Superman titles in December per the solicits. Unlike some other fans, I don't feel like this is a victory. If the Legion title ultimately fails, it will fail due to cuts like a lot of the other cancelled titles. There is nothing good that can come of the Legion being cancelled so early in the run. I think DC would just put it in the 20th century like they do in the Supergirl TV show.

I honestly don't care what that man does or did or would've done with Superman or Action Comics, I just wish the quality of the Legion series would improve.

God I hope someone like Mags Visaggio or Marguerite Bennett takes over.

I don't really know enough about young comic writers to know who would be a good choice, but I'd really love to see more from the creative team on the not-really-a-Legion-story from the DC Cybernetic Special.

Oh hell yeah Nik Virella's the best, she's done a number of sketch card commissions for me and she's amazing

Bleeding Cool has been speculating that Mark Waid may succeed Bendis.

Interesting. Given the close connections between the current Superman run and the current Legion run, maybe MW will get the chance to leave an impact on yet another version of the Legion.

Well, Waid was promised the Superman job, his professed dream job, years ago, but apparently Paul Levitz and Dan Didio nixed it. Waid also had bad blood with Bob Harras. Waid swore off DC, and now, all of those people are gone from the company. So in December, Waid is suddenly back in the solicitations, co-writing one of the many specials that month. That same month, Bendis ends his Superman run. Next month....?