Since our old thread became corrupted somehow, its time to start a new one. I'll post some of the stuff I can recover here.

Old Thread

Here's the V.I.P badge. Pics of Mysa in the cape to follow.

Damn! I don't have a screenshot folder in my test folder. So I wonder where it put the screenshots? They aren't in my regular folder at all.

But I did get this one just before trying Garth's cape mission again.

The Test server is back up and I've started the SG "Legion of Message Board Posters and Legion World Heroes" Sign on when you can so I can induct all of your heroes.

I just logged in and it said you weren't there. Are you still on? And it what city?

I'm on with Condo

Thanks Vee. That's the one I was looking for. Glad I bumped it when I did.

Ok, I'm going to ask on the test server
again.

I create a folder called COH-test?

Do I put it as a subfolder in my COH or do I
make it a completely secondary folder?

I copy everything from COH and put it in the
COH-test folder?

And then I rename the COH.EXE file? To what?

DO NOT put it under CoH.

Make it a separate folder. Copy everything in the CoH folder to the CoH-test folder. Then rename the new CoHupdater.exe to CohUpdater.exe" -test (exactly as I've typed it or just copy & paste it from here)

Then be sure to create a shortcut for it called CoH test server (or whatever you want to call it that will distinguish it from your regular one.

That should allow you to log on to the test server. You'll probably have to wait for an update the first time you do but it shouldn't be too long.

So where shall we play tonight? Anyone have a preference?

No preference here.

Just read on the Dev thread that they applied a patch to the test server that should fix the cape mission. Actually it wasn't just affecting cape missions but any mission that involved saving/protecting an object(s). I'm going to try it out and see how it goes solo.

Powerslide screen cap

Mysa's ready to go when you are.

What I meant is do I just create a subfolder
in the COH folder for the COH Test folder or
do I make a folder that's entirely outside
the COH one?

hmmm...

It sounds like the latter.

I finished another story arc for Blue. Got
him within 3 bubbles of 29. 8-)

It doesn't work, Vee. I must be doing something
wrong. It won't let me put a quotation mark in the file, and when I copied what you wrote that
didnt'work either. It asks me what program I want
to open it up with.

On the shortcut just leave the name as is. Go to the end of it and after the ending " place a space then -test.

This is what the shortcut should look like (depending on where you placed it on your on pc of course):

"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe" -test

How on Earth are you able to get a " in your
file name? Everytime I try it says that
"A file name cannot contain any of the following
parameters: \/:*"<>|"

With the shortcut made you right click on it, chose properties. In the target field you can make the change.

You're not changing the file name to that in the folder. You are chaging the properties of the shortcut

Okay.

Figured that out, but it's downloading
everything into the file rather than copying
it, so I guess it'll be a while. 8-)

Okay. It's up and running. How do I import
a character into it?

You have to go to the Character loader. Just a second.

Thanks to Mysa and Tas, Garth is now only 2,651 xp away from 21, less than 1 bubble to go! We did a Tsoo story arc for Mysa tonight then finished up the same arc for Garth. They really weren't that hard, I'm surprised.

I'm also surprised at how quick the xp does build up at this level.

So, I have to ask. What is the cap for the TF? I've forgotten and don't want to pass it before we have a chance to start it over.

And we got Tas to 19 and about 2 bubbles or more towards 20. Soon all of us will have our capes. Once the mission is fixed.

Cap is 21, so you've got some wiggle room. Way to go , guys!

The whole gang is back now, so maybe we should try it split up. Might be easier to organize. Who can play when? Unfortunately, I won't be available until later Sunday afternoon EST.

The cap is 21. Two teams might be the easiest
way to do it, and it might go faster that way
as well.

I'm going to go see the Incredibles today, but
I'm free after that. I was working on Blue
yesterday, I'm two bubbls away from 29 and
five slotted stamina!

The story arcs do seem to be the best way to
get xp if you ask me. Even by doing the mishs
solo Blue was getting a lot. Right now he
clears over 2000 in xp for every successful
mish completion ... and I love doing those
story arcs. Did you guys get any souvenirs?
Blue has six.

Yeah the story arxs are fun. Althought they often don't make a great dea of sense unless you're actually reading the clues you get along the was.

Both Condo and Mysa are raring to go on the TF if eveyone else is ready. Anytime this weekend is fine for me.

Just ran into SLk on Virtue. He'll be offline for a bit but back a little later on and is ready to start up the TF again when he gets back. Told him we would decide on a time here.

He makes a good point about xp. Even though we did okay with everyone in one group, we will get much better xp if we split into two groups. And as Seymour said above, it will be much easier to schedule the times.

I think there are nine of us (10 counting Condo & Mysa) so what does everyone say to two groups of 5? Seymour can't do his until tomorrow PM so that would be the time for one group. Another could do it today.

SLK is back and I'm online as well so if anyone else is available we could start up one TF group as soon as we have 5

Do you guys have five yet?

Nope, just us two are online

It'll probably be another hour at least before Caroline or I can join you guys.

Okay, we'll be ready for you

Hi, guys.

I'm doing a mish with Blue right now. He's on
his last bubble before 29. If I get a chance,
I'll pop over and see if i can help. If not,
good luck! 8-)

Whee.

Made it to 29 for Blue. And I got stamina
5 slotted now... One more level and he
can get his 3rd costume and maybe an aura
for that one. 8-)

Anyone have voice capability? My hubby can set it up so our server is a voice server, so we can talk to each other instead of typing everything out (though I hope Vee's voice isn't too deep, or that will totally ruin Mysa's mystique ).

I'll speak in falsetto!


I do have earphones & a mic but don't know what I need to do to talk over the computer.

There have been a number of active supergroups that have advertised that membership is contingent upon having a microphone. They are serious about their communicating instantly while on taskforces and during missions. I'd be a little hesitant at first, with the newness of it, and with getting to know everyone more intimately via their voice anyway, but I suppose I could get used to it. I mean, I didn't think I'd ever play computer games either...... hahahahahaha, we all know how that turned out

Blue's imploding supergroup got teamspeak, but
we never actually got around to using it. At
least I didn't. The first time I ran it, no
one else had it on, and I could never get it
to run thereafter. There's something weird about
my PC setup, and it seems like COH is about all
I can run at once without my computer slowing
down to unusability.

But I'm willing to give it a shot. I do have a
headset with a mike.

Oh one more thing about exemping, guys.

Scott, Caroline, do you remember how Blue was
getting more in influence than you two were
getting in xp/influence per kill? I found out
why. I think I figured it out when we were
playing, but I got confirmation when I was
exemping my friend Temptation yesterday.

The debt relief or the influence is based on
what you'd get for a kill at your level, not
at what the person you're exemped to would
get.

For example, I was doing a Sky Raiders mish
with Temp exemped. For each kill I made of a
level equal to me, I was getting 83 xp and
86 influence. Temp was getting around 300
points of debt relief because that's what she
gets when she makes a kill equal to her level
when she's not exemped.

Later on, we were doing one of her mishs with
me sk'd to her. The baddies were equal to her
level, and so I was getting 83 xp again while
she was getting 300. When Blue leveled, he
started getting 93 xp.

Just something potentially useful we should file
away for when we want to work on some debt relief
sometime. 8-)

So did the TF finish up last night?

Yes! Task Force Cyclone was a resounding success. We completed it last night in one sitting (with a short break of about 1/2 hour.) I wasn't paying close attention to the clock but I think it took approxiamtely 5 hours from start to finish.

As Quislet would say "What fun!"

I think all of us leveled at least once. Prism and Tas made it to lvl 20, Garth is now a lvl 21 and Pete is just shy of lvl 22 while Mysa achieved 22. And there wasn't a single death throughout the TF!

After the TF we decided to try the cape mish to see if we could complete it while invisible. Nothing else has worked since it became bugged after the 11/3 patch. Unfortunate everyone but Prism died on the first attempt before we ran out of time. Second time was even more frustrating since it seemed like we only had about 2 minutes before the Mission failed. Arrrgh!

We then decide to get visit ICON and get Prism & Tas new costumes. That went very well and they are now stunningly attired in outfits that will look awesome once they are able to get capes.

So, what time do we want to start up the 2nd one? Condo's chomping at the bit because Mysa passed him in levels.

So who wants to be playing this second
go around?

I do want to see Prism and Tas' new costumes
even if they decide not to go it again. 8-)

If both Prism & Tas want to play, it would be great to have them. Prism has heal and that came in helpful in addition to Mysa's more than once. Having him along with Doc & Grev's siphon health power would be great. Prism also picked up mutate which is a great rez.

SLK was saying that Slasher might be avaialble as well.

Actually, the only one that can't participate is Mysa since she reached 22. Everyone else could do it again.

Hi!! I'm ready to go for another taskforce! Tasmia wants her cape, but she is also only 4 bubbles from lvl 21. If you want another TF, just let me know and I'm there.

Star will have mutate someday ... if we ever
play Infinity long enough to get him up to 16.
8-)

So, what time should we start?

I don't know. Whenever Grev and Doc are ready,
I guess. 8-)

If everyone assembles and I'm not around, look
for me on Triumph. I'm working on Bluette. I'd
like to get her up to 14 so she'd become my 4th
character with flight, but right now I'm just 2
bubbles away from 13. Steel is awfully hard to
solo in ...

Condo & Tas are on waiting for everyone else

Still no one else?

Prsism is on with us

Here I come!

Do you guys already have a full team?

Hey, guys.

Was fun for Team Celerity to kick Clockwork
Butt last night. 8-)

In regards to the training server, do I put the
copy program to bring my characters over to it
in the actual game folder or in the test folder?

Got one more bubble for Bluette after we got
done last night. As Mordru is my witness, she
will have flight by the end of this week!

Yeah, it was pretty nice getting through a TF twice in a weekend.

I went back on after Desperate Housewives to try out the cape mish and almost succeeded... I managed to save the time capsule but couldn't defeat them on my own. Basically what I did was I turned Group Invis on and ran straight to the capsule (I've seen the map before so I made a pretty accurage guess to where the capsule would be) then turned Phantom Army on and decieved the Anathemas.

Unfortunately, while PA helps me solo that mish had too many enemies to take on... especialy when I was facing Anathemas one level higher and I eventually died twice.

Thankfully, if you save the capsule the mish doesn't end and I don't have to see all those contacts again. (IP no longer looks cool to me after having to fly over so much of it.)

I was going to suggest we try the mish again but it looks like they sent through the patch today. I DLed one this morning. Unfortunately, CoH no longer works on my system... it just totally freezes me up on the opening screen.

I see they posted the folowing on the CoH website...

11.08.04

Tasks

* Fixed critical bug that caused some players in missions containing protectable objects to fail the mission before reaching the objects. "

Mysa wants you all to know that she will make herself available all night to help you guys earn your capes.

I don't htink it's something you need to download. Just click on the link for it in the Training Room thread at CoH and it will do it for you.

Prism'll love the help, providing that I can get the game workinging...

How's it going, Prism? Is it working yet?

Where is everyone tonight?

Virtue

I was waiting for the cape people but none of them made it. SLK did though and we ran into ERG-ONE and his girfriend (who had just made a Legion char of her own ~ Brainy Ack 5. ) We had a great time playing with them and got them and SLK's Chief Zendak all up to lvl 7-8.

Brainy is now a member of the Legionnaires of Virtue (ERG has been for a week or so) so be sure to look out for them. They were a great deal of fun and liked to play in character. They might join us on Wed for Legion Night.

Hey, guys.

Congratulate me!

I went ahead and got Bluette up to level 14
tonight. Not only that, but she actually made
it on the top ten victors list for Steel Canyon.
When I checked it last, she had made it up to
#8 ... I think it was 298 arrests for the day
at last count.

She's my 4th character to pick hit level 14 and
get a full travel power.


Now if anyone actually wants to play Triumph
again, it shouldn't be too bad to travel through
the Hollows. Bluette has both TP and flight, so
she could fly ahead and then tp the rest of the
team to the door. If necessary, I could always
exemp her down after doing that so we could
still do lower level mishs.

Heh. I'm really kind of giddy right now. She's
one of my favorite characters to play and now I
can actually run around in Steel and not get
blasted everytime I have to go somewhere!

And when does the change to Legion night
take effect?

Nass, no luck. I tried a few times tonight... CoH crashes my machine consistently. A bit of me was desperately hoping a patch would show up in the night but oh, well.

I know this rarely, if ever, helps but did you post it on the CoH boards? There seems to be a number of PC issues on the first couple of pages today.

Can I say I hate getting killed at this level? I've gotten near 8k in debt. I can't believe they upped the debt rate by almost 1,000 from 21 to 22.

Got killed twice trying to visit my contact in IP to get the last bit for the cape mission. At least it appears the mission is no longer bugged. But I definitely need help to complete it.

Give it a few levels, buddy. I've gotten
pretty good at keeping Blue alive, but the
ambushes they send after you when you take
a hunting mish are a real headache. The
last time Blue died was because of a
Freakshow Ambush at level 28. If I'm
recalling right, he picked up 12k in debt
from that one death.

Have you taken Garth to Dark Astoria yet?
It's kind of rough for a solo hero, but
once we get everyone past 21 we'll have
to run an expedition there. It's a good
place to wipe out debt for a group.

Yeah, I posted something yesterday. I added it as a reply to another post about the patch, hoping that it'd be less likely to get lost vs. in a separate thread.

This morning I sent support an e-mail with a data dump from DXDIAG. Hopefully, the information will be useful to them, unlike Stardock who mostly looked for a problem on my machine and gave me the generic "we recomend contacting your video card manufacturer and getting the most current drivers". (I re-installed the video driver before contacting them, so that just got me to write them off... I'd think that a tech support center would keep a database of current driver versions and compare their database to the DirectX info... and therefore give more specific info like "There's a newer driver than the one you have..." or "You seem to have the current driver, so we recomend...")

---

Okay, checking my e-mail I got a quick response. They are pointing to the drivers, but did give me some specific information, recommending a shareware program to help the uninstall (which apparently doesn't always happen cleanly) ATI and NVida drivers. Anyone hear of "Driver Cleaner" before? Here is their website but I'm always cautious (okay paranoid) about installing shareware I haven't heard of before.

Hello everyone! I really enjoyed playing Brainy last night (virtue) and am looking forward to wednesday... Got him to lvl 8 and purchased a healing device which should give him even more interesting possibilities. Looking forward to wednesday... who all is planning on being on virtue then? I know ERG-ONE will be there (unless he gets called into work at the last minute) Anyways had a great time playing in character last night and would love to make it a regular thing.

Hi Brainy Ack 5! It was a great deal of fun last night and very nice meeting you and ERG-ONE. (I was Cosmic Rokk by the way) Here on Legion World a I'm known as Varalent or "Vee" for short.

You'll soon discover that I'm a number of different chars on Virtue, Infinity, Protector, etc. My main Legionnaires on Virtue are Condo & Mysa, but I also have Cosmic Rokk, I Kid Lyle, Fun Loving Quiz, & Quantum King on that server. (Hence the jokes about "Vee's Legion")

Be sure to check out the thread which lists everyone's chars on each of the servers on CoH. It's a seperate thread here on the Anywhere Machine Forum. There's a link to it in my signature line.

Look forward to seeing you on CoH, as well as here on Legion World, often!

Sounds great and ERG-ONE and I wouldn't mind sk-ing if you want to play a higher character... We've probably each got 30 characters spread out on triumph, virtue, justice and guardian not to mention the ones we lost after beta ended and the ones that got deleted... but my favorites are the ones you play for fun, our friends and our old super group got so fixated on making 50 and badge hunting that playing became more stressful than my job and who needs that... Anyway you guys were a lot of fun...

oh and is there anyway to get screen shots of our chars on the avatar list? ERG has a good ultraboy alt and it would make us easier to recognize online.

Yes, either Gary (Nightcrawler) or Scott (Lightning Lad), our two hosts here can do that for you. There is a thread about getting avatars made in the Science Police Forum which you can go to directly by clicking here.

If you are able to make your own avatar you can either post it on that thread and ask them to upload it for you or email it to them. Be aware that they try to keep the avatars relatively small in size (details in that thread I believe) so you should probably check it out before doing your own.

Just keep in mind that Gary & Scott get lots of requests from the hundreds of posters here so it may take them a little while to get yours done for you.

So when will Legion night be this week and
where? Is it starting on Thursday this week?

And during the TF we were talking about running
Infinity Legion. Is that still on?

I'm fine with Legion Night being moved to Thursday starting this week. And Infinity is fine with me also if everyone wants to do that.

For Brainy Ack 5 & ERG's sake, Infinity server is where we have our adventure era Legion SG. I think the highest chars there are 14-15. WE'd love to have you join us there as well if that's where we end up doing Legion Night this week. (Check the roster thread I mentioned above to see who everyone has created there)

BTW< I'll be running around on Virtue again tonight as someone in case any of our cape ready heroes are looking to make their attempt with Mysa's help.

As soon as I get my cape!

I guess I do need to work on Lightning Ranzz but he is so far behind the rest of you.

I definitely want to get mutate for Star.
After that, I'll probably start on fitness
for him.

Garth got his cape! Yay! And I can't thank Vee/Mysa enough for the help! I'll post pictures in a bit.

Garth looks marvelous!

Prism, have you been able to sort out the problem with CoH yet?

Grats, buddy!

I know you were really looking foward to cape.

Blue is slogging away towards 30. Got 2 bubbles
today.

Prism, Seymour, I know that you two are illusion
controllers, and I thought you'd appreciate
hearing this given how hard it can be for
controllers to solo. Grem's Elusian character
hit 32 this week and she got a Phantasm. If you
guys think Phantom Army is something, wait until
you see what a Phantasm can do!

It can not only fight as an energy blaster, it
can make a duplicate of itself. And it kicks
nass on a major scale.

I didn't get a chance to get a pic of Prism's cape before we logged so hopefully he'll post his here.

Here is the result of our first attempt at Prism's cape mission.

And here is the front, back and an upclose pic of the brooch Garth chose for his cape. I figured since lightning wasn't available this one fit his Adventure era look.

And here is Tas'.

Well let us know where is best... we were thinking of being on Virtue tommorow, but if we do move to infinity on thursday let us know so we can make chars there and post here what our names will be.

Oh, nice capes you guys!

Blue would approve of Garth's.

BTW, that's Prism in his white cape & outfit in the background of Tas' back view. He looks awesome as well.

any verdict on legion night?

Thanks, Vee. I wanted to create a cape that wasn't monochromatic, but there weren't any color schemes that don't mess the spectral theme except pink, which seemed a bit much to me.

There's lots of cool cape designs, tho. I really want to get more characters up to 20 now... so many design possibilities. I almost want to pick out a character to focus on based on cape possibilities...

There's a bunch of teasers showing up on the boards, here's my summary of 'em:

The most exciting teaser is that there will be origin-specific missions coming to the game, which should help explain the origins' backstory in Paragon City (are mutants hated and feared? does Heidi Foss dream of bitch slapping Countess Crey? what’s the magic community like?) Mutants and science heroes are the first to get origin-specific missions, starting in Update 3 with more coming down the line.

The zones are also getting attention starting in Update 3. Zone-specific events are coming up, which will also enrich the game's backstory. As an example of a zone-specific event, Statesman suggested a gang war breaking out in Perez Park (tho that's not something being worked on). Starting with Update 3, the original zones will also start getting a makeover with the goal of giving each zone their own character. I hope this means Boomtown gets to be a little more interesting. The Ritki Crash Site and the Shadow Shard are getting tweaks to make them more appealing zones for people to play in.

There's lots of talk of powers, natch. Statesman has talked about a must-have list of new powers that includes bows, sonics, shields magnetism, street fighting and pistols. Web slinging, however won't be coming any time soon due to the difficulty. Eventually, States wants each power set to have a total of 10 powers. Power pools are likely to get extended to five powers each and teleport will finally get that "teleport to point on map" power that many players have wanted. I'm still hoping for a "teleport to friend" power.
Meanwhile, the more immediate changes to powers are focused on Dark Armor, Ice Armor, Stone Armor and the fear effects. The armors' fx are being redone and will become "stackable" (meaning two armors can run at the same time) and fear powers will become a type of hold power. The timetable for these changes hasn’t been settled yet, so it's uncertain if they'll be a part of Update 3. One thing that the CoH team is trying to get into Update 3 is a gameplay change that will make it easier for brawlers to hit runners (right now a scrapper or tanker has to get in front of an fleeing foe to get a hit in). After Update 3 the next concern will be figuring out how to rework tankers and controllers to make the archetypes more effective in the game.

The epic archetypes will include 2 types and a total of 32 new primary secondary powers.

Also, level 50 will remain the ceiling for the time being.
There are also some good "quality of life" issues being worked on. The previously-discussed Alliance Chat will be a part of Update 3, which will be useful to a lot of players. However, the most demanded change is coming... yes, indeed, we will have stores showing up on the navigation maps (though it's not promised for Update 3).

It sounds like we're all agreed that Legion Night will move to Thursday nights. I know Blue wants to work on the Infinity group so he can get Star leveled up, so lets plan on doing Legion Night there this week.

Which begs the question...where do we go tonight?

ok I will try and get a char at least to 5 tonight will that be ok for sk (and we are sure it will be 50s era right so I'm not the only one with a bad haircut)

Yes we've all got Adventure era chars over there, Brainy.

Ok then I will try to get on tonight and work on it I reserved the name Brainy V on infinity so anyone who wants to hang out there tonight just send me a tell. ERG doesn't know what he is going t o be there yet. (if there is already a Brainy lets work something out like he cloned himself to get more work done but now doesn't know which one is the original i.e. Ben Reilly)

Actually there are TWO Brainys on Infinity I think, LyleLyle's Querl Dox, and DMFirebow's Dox 5.1 but don't worry about it. We survived two of them somehow without getting blown to kingdom come so far. Maybe we'll survive 3 of them also!

Blue that's neat to hear about Phantasm. Invisible Lyle on Infinity is an Illusion controller also so that's something he has to look forward to! Of course he has a long way to go but it gives him incentive.

Congrats to Grem! Yea Phantasm, it sounds cool!

Well, there's always the time-displaced duplicate... or the 'you're a clone/no, you're a clone' dynamic of the SW6 batch.

But Querl has been frustrating me of late anyway (FF's just too passive a power for me and the energy blasts are underpowered) so I'd be into putting the character in the inactive bin. Did we lose our Brek Bannin? I've yet to roll an ice blaster. Then again I'm realizing that I mismanaged Mister Brazil's enhancement slots, so I've thought of creating Lydda Jath as a dark/regen scrapper... or maybe Brin as a MA/regen scrapper. I'll roll something tonight.

(Both Lydda and Brin would be science origins, right?)

lol
cool

Yeah I think both would be science. For what it's worth, when I did Lydda on Protector (now in Vee's Shanghalla), I did her as an Invuln/energy mellee tanker. And my Brin (also reposing in Vee's Shanghalla) was a claws/regen (?) scrapper.

We still do have Brek Bannin (SLK) and Cadet Bannin (Scott) on Infinity. I think SLK and Doc both have versions of Brin on Infinity as well, though Doc's may be on Virtue.

oh, forgot today was new comic book day... I probably wont be on till late... not a big day, but still.

I have Brin Londo on Infinity, Vee.
And a Dox 5.1 on Protector.

I've been thinking about doing Ultra Boy as a
martial arts scrapper with invulerability as a
secondary just to see what that's like, but I
haven't gotten around to it yet. Maybe the
trident could double as Jo's unique symbol. 8-)

I'll probably be spending more time on Blue
tonight. I'm 4 bubbles towards 30 and working
on getting my seventh souvenir from a story
arc. That's really kind of addictive ... I
just wish they'd give you pictures of the
things to look at as well.

Hey, Prism, when did they fix your connectivity
problem? The ironic thing was that last night
Blue was having one of his most stable nights
ever until about 10:00 PM central and then I
lost sever about 3-4 times in an hour. Very
frustrating.

Erg-One is thinking of Timberwolf if that is cool

Well, I had to uninstall and re-install my video driver, which got me back to Paragon City. Unfortunately, I had a crash when crossing zones, but that only happened once.

Hmmm, okay, I'm running out of characters that would make sense as a regen scrapper... wish I had my archives handy.

It's going to be a long time before this matters to most of us but they've relased information on the Epic Power Pools . My initial reaction is mixed... they seem to be blurring the archetypes here, but perhaps at level 40 that makes sense.

Neat.

Personally, I think that's rather late to be
mixing the ATs. By the time you hit 40, there's
not a lot of need for most of those things that
I can see.

I agree with Blue. I'd like to see this dropped to maybe 30.

For the Adventure era group on Infinity? How about:

Bouncing Boy ~ don't know hat else he would be other than a Scrapper;

Matter Eater Lad ~ again what else could he be?;

Shrinking Violet

Dream Girl

Elastic Lad (Jimmy Olsen)

Pete Ross

Marla Latham

Nemesis Kid

Reflecto

Duplicate Boy

Life Lass

Beast Boy (Claws would be great here)

Evolvo

Calamity King

Don & Dawn Allen

and of course, Night Girl, whom you've already mentioned.

Whew, it's 10:30 and I'm just now getting home, with plenty more work to do to get ready for school tomorrow (why am I on here?!?!), so I am really glad you guys are moving Legion night to Thursday. It looks like this will be the norm for me for a few weeks.

I still have Brek Bannin, I haven't erased him yet. I just don't find blasters that appealing for some reason. So when I saw Cadet bannin, I figured it was a good time to try something new. If someone wants to do a Brek bannin, let me know and I will delete my character. Until then, though, I'd like to keep him around - just in case.

My Infinity char is Val Armorr. Don't worry, Brainy and ERG, he's only a level six so you'll have plenty of company down at the bottom of the ranks. He's a natural martial arts (of course!)/ super-reflexes/scrapper. So far I'm enjoying him, but he sure does eat up the endurance. Anyway, looking forward to playing with everyone again tomorrow night! Any time in particular?

Cadet Bannin is only a 9 so he's still a bit below the others too. In fact I may be playing him instead of Lightning Ranzz just to have some time with a different blaster type.

So what is the plan for tomorrow night (thursday) I have made Timber Wolf MKI on infinity, He is a inv/SS tanker.

also would anyone be interested in joining my Avengers SG on Virtue? (PM me if yes)

I would if I had any Avengers based characters. Who's taken? Or, better yet, who is available? Maybe I'll make a new character.

well I have a Ms. Marvel character and my Gf has quicksilver. There is also a Ironman but that is it. Also I am giving 2000 inf to any new (lvl 1-5)character that wants to join.

Avengers huh?....I could do that. Let's see now, I could be...... or I could be ..... ackkk! So many choices!

Well I had started a Vision character but we lost power during the process so he's gone before I could even name him.

I plan on trying to recreate him later so if you do create an Avenger just keep in mind I call dibs on Viz.

Oh the Vison would be cool ...

I'm thinking about making Simon Williams
if he's free. I'd probably make him as an
invulnerable scrapper or an energy melee
tanker.

"hey stay away from my sister buddy! . . . and this goes for you too Williams" -Quicksilver

anyway looks like erg is gonna me Timberwolf MK1 and I will be Brainy V (got him to 6 last night ;-) ) Should probably add us to you friends list so you know when we come online... We are west coast I have work till 5 or 6 (Pacific Time) and Erg might be playing a little Vs. CCG so expect us around 6:30 Pacific 9:30 Eastern (though it may be a little before that)

Man it looks like I play a lot of guys honestly it's only 10% of my chars. You guys should run with my black canary or batgirl... I think I just got tired of being hit on...

I think I may do Wanda if I can get the costume somewhat close. I'll have to see when I get home. If not, maybe....

"Hey buddy don't talk that way about my sister... oh wait you mean oh ok then" - Quicksilver

Erg tried it when I made quicksilver but it looked more like the force works years unless you go with the full head mask and lose the hair... looking forward to seeing it though...

Hey cool! Some westcoasters on the team!

Since I didn't see any Invisible Kids on the Infinity roster, I made Lyle Norg an MA/Regen scrapper. He'll be picking up concealment in the power pools, getting the invis that way.

You mean you missed my Invisible Lyle?

Should be fun running them together at some point. Mine is an illusion/empathy controller.

Ack! Yes, I did... looks like I missed him, too, when I did the big compilation of rosters... oh, and on the top o' the page as well.

No biggie! Looking forward to meeting him.

What time are we going to play tonight?


I got Bluette up to 15 now. She now has a
six slotted snipe and a title: the Valiant
Blue Battlette.

Brainy and I should be on no later than 6:30 pacific

but maybe earlier looks like I can get out at 5:30 so prolly be online at like 6 pacific

Cool! BTW, Scarlet Wanda is ready to go for the Avengers team. She's an empathy/energy defender just like Mysa.

The mask drove me bonkers until I came across cat ears. Those along with a partial face mask comes close to Wanda's real look. Let me know what you think when you meet her.

I do wish they had longer skirts though!

virtue right... maybe after legion night we can hop on virtue and get everyone signed up

We're on Infinity now if anyone has been waiting
to find that out. 8-)

I have The Inhuman Vision on Virtue for my Avengers character. He is an Illusion Control/Kinetics Controller. Never tried that combo before but it seemed to fit the Viz.

I'm not sure that we are going to make it to Infinity tonight. Parental issues again.

Sorry guys. Got in with a 44th lvl character who just wanted people to bulk up his team so he has more baddies to kill. He's giving a 5k signing bonus and 10k for each bubble he gets. If you have a low lvl character on Virtue he said I could recruit some more team members. He needs another 3.

Oh, I'm still Inhuman Vision if you want to come on over.

on our way LL

Cool, still room for 3 more.

Whoa ...

I'm probably going to be wasted tomorrow,
but right now I don't care.

Got Blue to 30 tonight with Grem's help.
(Man I so want a Phantasm for my illusion
guy now!) We did aura mish and I picked up
flamethrower for a new attack power.

In case you guys miss the article that Reboot pointed to in another thread:

http://newsarama.com/forums/printthread.php?s=&threadid=21377

Interesting thread. Honestly, I think that
COH probably screwed themselves over based
on one point: the claws power set.

There have always been big super strong guys
in comics. Solomon Grundy preceded the Hulk
by decades, and both he and the Hulk owe a
large debt to the Frankenstein Monster. There
have also been green characters. Marvel did
nothing original in terms of the origins of
their characters either.

But the claws scrapper set in COH is nothing
but an opportunity to create a Wolverine
clone. I know that i've seen claws used in
ninja movies, but just the way they "snikt"
out in COH is a sure sign that Cryptic was
going after the Wolverine crowd.

As to what that means to us, I expect that
Cryptic is probably going to be taking a
much closer look at the heroes in the game
to avoid such problems in the future.

I hope that most of our characters are able
to fly under the radar, but I wouldn't be
surprised if we wound up having to rename
our SGs at some point...

Marvel chars are probably the biggest targets. DC doesn't seem to be as aggressive about it. Perhaps, unlike Marvel, they are intelligent enough to recognize that these are FANS of their chars that will likely get PO'ed if they have to delete them.

I'm wondering if Marvel has finally decided that their endeavor will go nowhere and want NCSoft to pay for Marvel's investment with the other company. We all know that CoH isn't just something that came out of nowhere. They've been working on this game for at least five years, if not longer.

Marvel just cannot let anything slip past them that may mean more money to them. I'd rather see some sort of arrangement where they release game additions that can be purchased to allow you to play Marvel or DC characters. That way the comic companies get a piece of the action without the hassle of development.

They could even do special story arcs that recreate famous comic story lines, like Great Darkness or Days of Future Past, where you have to have purchased an add-on in order to participate.

I wish that were true, Vee, but I'm guessing
that DC is simply waiting to see how Marvel's
suit turns out. If Marvel wins or gets a large
settlement, expect DC to follow suit ... no
pun intended. DC might even join forces with
Marvel in the lawsuit so they don't have to do
it twice.

To be fair, I can see why Marvel would do this.
Copyright and trademark are tricky beasts, and
if you don't adequately protect them you can
lose them. It's happened in the past.

I dunno, it seems like DC legal goes back and forth on those things. I know their policy to fansites goes from fairly lenient to lenient if demands are met (usually lots of disclaimers and sometimes redesign demands to make a site look unofficial) to stronger measures.

Overall, tho, I think someone at DC gets that fans expressing their love of the properties is good, as long as no one mistakes Betty's Dick Grayson slash fiction archive as being official.

LL, I think you've got a good idea. Considering the base CoH has developed, it'd be much easier and more profitable (in the long run) to liscence Cryptic to make CoH expansion packs and run a few servers set in the Marvel U.

Based on the article I think Cryptic's biggest problem is that they had semi-knockoffs in the player's guide. It'd be one thing if they said "Oh, well, we can't spot every Virgina Woolferine (keep her away from a typewriter) and Feenux out there." but an official book actualy suggested it.

Actually, it didn't. The cartoon was making fun
of people who created toons based on comic book
characters.

hey so we chould probably lay low on the avengers of virtue for a while then huh

Sounds like a call for the... oh, gee, what did we call our Mythos SG?

Brainy -- we've got a SG of characters inspired by the CoH mythos... children of Paragon City baddies or similar characters (I've got a woman who was kidnapped and turned into what was meant to be the Clockwork King's bride). Feel like joining us? I don't think anyone's done a Lost or Ruularu themed character. (And I did a list of character ideas on the old thread, if the post didn't get lost.)

Mythos SG?

actaully I have a minx clone on triumph... what server are you guys on?

Aw, I didn't edit my post fast enough. Look at my post above, I added some stuff.

My other character is the son of the Lord of Frosts (the leader of WWII Japanese super team the Imperial Wind) from the Axis America universe (where the Axis won WWII).

A couple places to look for inspiration:
http://www.cityofheroes.com/features/fiction.html

http://www.cityofheroes.com/features/villains.html

Freedom server.

Hey, guys. Got Blue's 3rd costume today.
What do you think?





This time I made the interior of the cape the
reverse of the exterior.

Nice!

Looks good Thomas. I see you are now showing you face in battle.

OooooH! I like that one! Congrats to Blue!

Pariahs of Paragon is the name, I think.

Thanks, guys.

I wanted one that was more classically heroic
than Blue's regular outfit, but somehow still
reflected the fact that he used armor. I like
the results. 8-)

Hey, guys. It took a long time last night
but Prism and I got out of debt-- after dying
one more time after you left!-- and Prism picked
up flight for Shadow at 14 and I picked swift for
Bluette at 16.

So where would everyone like to play? I'd still
like to spend some time working on Star so I can
pick up Mutate for him at 16 and the Positron
TF, but since we have new players with low levels
I wouldn't mind playing Xs Ive on Virtue either.
She's an 8 and she picks up speed boost at 12 so
she'd be fun to play.

I got some big influence last night from
helping out a high level friend by being an
enhance dump, so I'm going to get Red Bee some
DOs and see if I can make him tough enough to
hit 14 and get flight. I just wish he wasn't so
gimped ...

I wouldn't mind working on Brainwave Jr or
Colorific either.

So I guess I'm good for the following servers
today:

Infinity

Protector

Pinnacle

Triumph

Virtue

Anyone got a preference?

Prism,

I have a question. You've got both
superior invisibiity and group invisiblity
for Prism Lad. From what I know, you can't
use your powers when you use Superior Invis,
but you can when you use group. Group has a
time limit ... but Superior doesn't?

How much of an endurance hog is SI anyway?

Guess I'm on a roll today ...

Has anyone heard from Doc Nimbus lately?

I don't want to get Andrew leveled out of
the TF in case he's needed again, but I also
want to get him up to 22 so I can pick up
stamina and FINALLY start getting real powers
again. 8-)

Finally ... does anyone know where I
can get the map patch and how to
install it? For some reason, the
level 30 tech heroes' contact is
placed smack dab in the middle of
the 37-39 baddies in Founder's Falls
so Blue doesnt want to have to look
around for it all the time. 8-)

You can get the mappatch at Heroeshideaway.com or by clicking here

When you click on the map patch link on that page it will trigger the download function. Make sure you read the information about it before installing the map patch.

We haven't played on Protector in ages so I would love to do that. Any of them are fine by me though, just post here where you're going to be.

SI is a toggle you turn on and off and can last as long as your endurance. However, you can't affect anything but yourself. I'd estimate that SI's endurance burn is similar to sprint or a little more. I could probably do 3/4 of a lap around Steel Canyon with both SI and sprint on.

GI allows freedom to attack and use powers but has a time limit.

Oh, and I'm probably most into the idea of playing on Protector with Mystery Man or Pyrefly, my fire tank.

And did you catch that the map patch will eventually be obsolete? Yea! Hopefully they'll do this in Update 3.

Protector is fine by me, guys.

When do you want to play? I just found
a couple of websites with badges and
plaque locations so I'm going to get
those for a while if I can figure out
the ingame GPS system. 8-)

Guys,

Bluette's SG has decided to do Positron now.

With luck,I'll be free this afternoon/evening.

Okay, guys.

The TF is done for today. If anyone wants
to hop onto Protector, I'm ready.

Did learn a few things that will come in
handy for Legion of Infinity though.

First, I'd say that 4 is the magic number for
that TF. We only had to deal with one Eid in
the sewer mish ... and that was the boss.

The 2nd is that I don't know what they expect
controllers to do in that mish ... it's no fair
that the Vahz zombies are so hard to hold ...
that takes the main job of a controller like
Star away ... that's like sending Beauty against
a horde of baddies who are totally immune to her
fire blasts and expecting her to brawl her
way through it...


Anyway, I'll check on Protector to see if anybody
is playing unless someone posts they are on other
servers.

So where is everyone?

Right now I've been playing Blue, getting the
history badges.

Where would everyone like to play?

Been playing Hitman 2. Needed to work out some frustrations but really sniping people.

Does anyone have any characters on Victory? I'm trying out a new Dark Melee/Dark Armor Scrapper there.

I've got various characters on Victory that
are at level 2 just to try out powers I hadn't
used before.

What's your scrapper called?

I know it's late, but if anyone hops on, I'll be on Infinity for a little while.

Ubasti.

I've got a couple... Kamisori is a katana/DA scrapper I'm thinking of rerolling because I built him badly. The 4th of July Kid is a Grav/Emp controller.

Anybody on tonight? I'm gonna hop on but don't know where I'll wind up, depending on who I find. Look for Princess (though I need to be careful not to get her to 17), Linus on Freedom or my new Chillflare on Triumph.

I've been on Protector after checking Infinity & Virtue but I'll look for you

If anyone's around i'm on Freedom under the name Clockwork Knave.

In case you were wondering, guys, debt at
level 30 is 10k a death.

Blue died 3 or 4 times tonight-- I want
to say 4, but I'm not totally sure. I do
remember three. Am kinda tired ...

On the plus side, he ended the night a hair
under 20k in debt.

I tell you, street hunting at level 30 is kind
of like hunting again in Atlas Park as a level
1 ... just about everything there can kill you.

But Blue will get up there. 8-)

Woo-hoo! I got Captain Hottie to level 20 last night!

Finished the Dr Vaz story arc, too. Somehow I did it without "defeating" Dr Vaz. I tried and might have been able to if I tried long enough but the mish XP is was put me over to level 20 and I was impatient to get the Capt a cape.

Blue, CH is the one I was talking about with Super Speed. It's tricky but he can jump over the Perez wall if he finds a springboard because SS gives a jump boost (as does sprint, just enough to make things a lot easier). Speed is a pain in zones like Boomtown and Faultline, tho, because of the big huge pits.

Mysa and Doc are on Virtue battling some Sky Raiders in Boomtown if anyone wants to join us.

Sky Raiders in boomtown? Neat. I won't be on for a while since I'm still on at work but Prism could use some time out in PC...

Vee,

Is Doc now too high for Synapse TF or was
Condo SKing him?

Blue has died more times over the last couple
of days than he's died in months ... but I
finished the night out of debt. 8-)

Huh. Colorific is going to have speed as his
transport power. One of these days I need to
get Charlie Brown or Sally Brown up to 14 so
I can see what superjump is like. AlmightyGremlyn
is going to have TP as a travel power if I ever
get to play her enough to level her... I may take
her into the Hollows at some point and just stand
around doing idle heals if nothing else ... I
just hate teaming with people I don't know
though ... pickup teams tend to be bad ...

Doc, when he left, was 16. So he can still do Synapse right?

Glad you got Blue out of debt. Maybe now he can help powerlevel Gung.

I can't believe that Garth has 14K in debt. But he earned a full bubble + tonight. I think I'm halfway to 23 now.

Hey, Gung's welcome to join Blue on some mishs.
He's starting to believe Gung's hype about the
Crey... you can really see their hands dipping
into everything once you start doing mishs in
the 30s ...

I just wish I could get a stable connection...
it'd make my life so much easier. I try not to
do door mishs unless I have someone who can
team with me to act as a doorstop ... when you
get disconencted, you lose all the progress
you have made on a mish since you entered it. I
wouldn't mind the disconnects nearly so much if
I just didn't have to worry about that...

Yeah Doc is still 16, getting close to 17 I imagine, but I don't think he leveled last night. Mysa had him SKed last night and the two of them took out Dr. Vahz after taking down a whole bunch of Sky Raiders.

Speaking of Crey Industries, they seem to have taken an interest in my hubby.

So, who's left who can do Synapse with Doc? Sounds like Garth, Mysa and Condo are out. Grev's still a couple bubbles away from 22 and could SK him. Could a small force do it this weekend?

Andrew is still under 22. That's one of the
reasons I haven't been playing him. Unless
it's changed since I last played Andrew, I
think that Prism should still be under
level 22 as well. Tas just recently hit
20, didn't she?

So it sounds to me like Andrew, Tas,
Prism, and Grev could do it one more
time.

I'd have time to do it this weekend,
but with Thanksgiving coming up I won't
have access to a COH-worthy PC from
Thursday until probably Sunday afternoon
next wekend....

That's cool Seymour. I think I've seen that site before.

So when do the Crey become the main villains? At what level? I probably should try to get Gung up to that level at least since it was part of his background when I created him.

Okay, so I guess the panic has started at NCSoft/Cryptic. According to Caroline (who can sit at home and play in the mornings) the servers were off line for an extremely long time this morning. Longer than normal for server updates. It appears that the devs/GMs are going through accounts and either shutting them down completely or deleting characters that have any tie (name, costume, whatever) to established trademarked/copyrighted characters.

It was bound to happen and this is probably just their way of getting ready for their battle with Marvel, whether it goes to court or not. But this will severely limit the characters you go in to play with if using such characters.

I'm not sure they would go after any of our Legion based ones. At least the ones using the Legionnaire's real names instead of their codename. But ones like my lil' Bruce will probably be toast if he even still exists. Sure they made me change his name but he still looks like Batman. A 48th level character who I've seen before that goes (or went) by the name of Son of Krypton and looked as close to Supes as you can get was deleted today. So I know they are watching and waiting.

Just be careful who you play for awhile I guess. None of our new Avengers should venture out of the mansion for quite awhile. We all might just be best off playing original characters or even the ones we based on CoH mythos.

One person on the boards reported that (s)he got an e-mail because their character had a name similar to a Marvel character, even though that was where the resemblance ended -- look and powers did not match at all.

I'm not sure which of our characters would be safe from scrutiny. When I saw him do a trivia contest in SDCC, they seemed pretty knoweldable about comics, tho I never got the nerve to asking for a Legion question, so maybe they won't jump on the more obscure ones like Mystical Mysa. (Hey Vee, if they e-mail you tell 'em you're an anime fan and it's inspired by Mysa Hayase from Macross... Lisa Hayes in the American Robotech... she landed on a magic planet and studied there.)

Then again that brings up the question of what makes an infringement. I mean, is Doc Nimbus a trademark infringement, as an original character inspired by a trademarked one?

Anyway, it's a big question mark, but I think we've got a good number of fun characters that aren't problematic. If they don't take actions on our accounts, just the characters, we'll definately be fine.

Hmm, I'm wondering if they'll have a problem with Shadow Yamamura. Her bio makes her an blending of two icons of Japanese horror -- Sadako Yamamura of the Ring franchise and Tomie of the horror manga series -- into an American setting.

If anyone spots that Olivia Honey is a fanfic knockoff, I don't think I'll ever get my jaw off the floor. (Elsie Flowers/Olivia Honey is a minor character from The Life and Loves of a She-Devil, I think I'm the only one who reads comics and knows that book that well.)

Brickstown is where you start to meet the Crey
on the streets, and that's really not safe for
anyone under 30 ... and it's even problematic
for Blue as almost everyone there is over 30.
In the story arc that I picked up for him the
other night he started to meet the Crey, and
the mish I had to do to get 30+ soS for Blue
involved going into a Crey facility and facing
them.

So 30 is the number, big guy! We better get
cracking!

Okay. I just logged on and I still had all
my characters. I do feel like lying low for
a while though ... I'm hopeful that Star
and Andrew will escape the purge ...

Ok, all my guys are still there. I'm not really sure how much my characters will be in trouble, though. Porcupine Pete, Silver Slasher, Radiation Roy, and Chief Zendak aren't exactly well known characters. I don't think any of them evem made it into DC's Who's Who.

I might worry a little for Val Armor, but not too much. Recently I had him on Infinity when someon decided to do a "clone" contest - who had the best trademarked character. I got kicked out because no one knew who Val Armor was!

The only one I have any real worry about is Blok, who seems to have some recognition value. He was involved in the Legion during its most popular time, so he might get spotted. I now wish that I had named him something a bit different - Block maybe? Bloque? Bloc?

The Infidels!

-signed, the half-Japanese guy named Lyle who has way too much emotional investment in the only two DC characters to have traits in common with him

I don't think you should play that way scared that your chars are gonna be erased... play what you want and then if they get erased oh well you had fun

Just checked and all of mine are still there as well. With very few exceptions, I don't really use recognizable codenames. One thing I migh suggest is that you go into your ID "card" and modify your bio so that it deflects suspicion.

For example, even though we all know who Condo is, I doubt any of them would. Yet when I created him, I gave him a bio that reads ... Conan Doyle Arthur, Condo for short, yada yada yada....

If they bio is not character specific you can always argue that it's a mere coincindence in the name being similar.

Where is everyone playing tonight. I haven't run across anyone.

Yeeesh, my online HOA meeting just won't end. (It's the online that's a problem, all that waiting not sure if someone's typing a response.)

Well, I got Val up to lvl 10 tonight, so he'll be ready for the Positron TF soon.

I also decided to get started on a backup plan in case my obscure Legion characters get deleted. So brand new to the Triumph server is Mahatma Ghandi!! a natural empathy defender. He can be part of a new supergroup of heroes - Heroes of History!!

I think he turned out pretty interesting looking. I was so excited I immediately made two more chars - Teddy Roosevelt & Moses - but both names were already taken!?!?!?!? Oh well, I guess it just means I need to get more sleep.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find any president not already taken. I saw just about one of each during the election season on every server.

But I like the Heroes of History thing SLK. Now I'll have to think of someone I'd really like to do.

I didn't get a chance last night to log in since it took me most of the night to get my network running again that seemed to have stopped for no reason. I'm sure most of our characters will be okay but we just have to realize the GMs are taking more notice when we play them. Maybe if we avoid any police drones we'll be safe.

Hmmm...Heroes of History huh? Let's see I could do...

Just figured out who I want to do for Heroes of History. Edgar Allan Poe. Maybe I'll make him a Dark Melee/Dark Armor scrapper.

So, what server?

I haven't checked my characters yet, but I think Doc Nimbus would be safe... I'd worry more about Conner Kent....

HoH sounds cool... Dibs on Charlemagne!

I have no idea who I'd do for history ...
fictional characters,yeah ... but I'm not
sure of who to make as a historical figure...

Gotta look up some western figures ...

You could do Louis Lamour.

So, what server? We can't do it on Triumph because its full (both Caroline's and mine). Any other suggestions?

Did anyone else see that the TOS was amended
this month? It said that you couldn't have a
characer with a name or appearance similar to
a trademarked character or designed to resemble
them either...

So what's the plan for tomorrow?

Heh.

There was a Western Legend that actually seemed
to live up to the hype according to a special I
saw on the history channel once ... now if I
could just remember who he is ...

I'm going to toss out the idea of playing
on Infinity tonight. Seymour, I know you
said that you thought Princess was getting
dangerously close to hitting 17, but I
wonder if you could exemp her and still
be able to play her? I'm actually kind of
curious about what level difference there
has to be to be exemped ...

I'm reluctant to do Virtue tonight if we're
going to be doing the TF this weekend as I
don't want to get Andrew over 22 just yet.

Though I suppose I might exemp him too ...
I just want to get Star mutate already!

Infinity's fine. Princess is halfway to 17, so when she gets within a couple bubbles, I'll exemp her down. I know Beauty is looking forward to hitting 16 also, so I'd be glad to help.

I don't mind making extra money for her. More lvl 20 DOs when she does hit 17!

Tonight is id vs ego for me... my arm and hand have been hurting worse than usual this week so I should take it easy on the game but I want to get some Paragon City time in pretty bad.

It doesn't really pertain to us, but have you seen the writeup on the Kheldians?

http://www.cityofheroes.com/features_update5.html

THIS IS FROM THE RECENT UPDATES PAGE:

11.16.04

Game:

* Auto AFK: If there is no keyboard activity in 5 minutes, your character will automatically be set to AFK (“Away From Keyboard”).
* Auto Logout: In order to improve lag and framerate for our players, we have instituted an Auto Logout feature for players who are not actively playing the game. After 18 minutes of inactivity you will hear a chime and receive a message that you will be auto logged out in 2 minutes. If you have not given any inputs to your character in those 2 minutes, you will hear a klaxon and the 30 second logout timer will begin. If you resume activity during those 20 minutes then the Auto Logout will be reset.

You will NOT Auto Logout under the following circumstances:
o You are on a Mission Map.
o You are on a Task Force.

Tasks:

* Tutorial: Fixed some color issues in Professor Hoffman's text.
* Shadow Shard: Fixed some issues in Sgt. Goddard's text.

Game Stability:

* Fixed bugs causing mission maps to crash.

Infinity is fine with me for tonight.

Did we decide on another server for the Heores of History? I had my hero already created on Triumph but he's only a three so I can reroll him somewhere else.

I decided that this should be an international group of historical heroes so I delved into my spanish heritage and decided to create Rodrigo Diaz de Bivar commonly refered to as El Cid. (Curiously I wasn't able to use just El Cid as a name. Don't know if someone else already had it or if it is on a prohibited list so he ended up as Rodrigo El Cid.)

I made him a broadsword/regen scrapper but I'm not sure he'll stay that way if I reroll him. (I just can't seem to get into playing scrappers or tankers ) I'll have to figure out how to justify a spanish knight in armor as a blaster

Hmmm...a fire blaster has flaming sword....

If we are going to switch servers for the hisory group, it looks like Justice & Victory have the most slots available for the majority.

And here are some ideas for other historical heroes that would be kind of cool. If someone doesn't do some of these I may have to try them:

Quasimodo, the Hunchback of Notre Dame ~ tanker?
D'Artagnan & the Three Musketeers (Porthos, Aramis, and Athos) ~ broadsword scrappers of course
King Arthur & The Knights of the Roundtable ~ dibs on Merlin!

And, Blue: Here are some ideas for you:

Paul Bunyun
Sam Houston
Davy Crockett
Daniel Boone

Anyone read A Connecticut Yankee in King
Arthur's Court? A month or so ago I had a
dream about creating him as a blaster in the
game ... 8-)

I don't know what I'd make him as just yet,
though. Now that Blue is within spitting
distance of 32, I can't see ever playing an
AR blaster again ...

As a matter of fact, the way Bluette is
shaping up I have a feeling she's going to
be my ultimate energy blaster, so ...

Right now I really think I'd like to play more
with illusion and mind control powers ... and
kinetics defenders. 8-)

Colorific is an illusion controller with kinetics
as a secondary, but I think the next illusion
controller I roll is going to have empathy as
a second ... you gotta be able to buff those
Phantasms!

Actually, come to think of it ...
I think that probably pretty much
any controller who can take a pet
should be picking up empathy as a
second ... I know that fire imps
can be killed ... and phantasms ...
I don't know about the Grav pet,
though ...

So what time are we playing tonight?

Star and Beauty Blaze are on if anyone
is ready to join us.

I'm still at frickin' work! I hate my job! Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

OK, I'm leaving! Maybe Princess will get to play a bit.

Sorry Princess didn't show up. When I got home from that 12-hour day, my hubby had a bath all set up with bath salts and chamomille and smelly froo-froo candles and wine and relaxing music, so I just sat in there for a while and then went right to bed. I've got an awesome hubby.

Heh.

I'd say that you made the right choice, Seymour.


Star is still 4 bubbles away from 16 ... so near
and yet so far to mutate ...

I think I made the right decision too. It was just what I needed after work.

What times are good for Doc and others to try Synapse again? If Doc can't do it this weekend, maybe we should start Positron with a small team (or teams) on Infinity?

I may have to work Saturday afternoon, and I've got some yard stuff I should take care of, but I'm pretty open this weekend.

So they frelling lied! They posted on the Test Server board that this was pulled from the test server to work on something that would be suitable to all involved. Instead they pulled it to make it live. Nassholes! Its one thing to screw with the game instead of making improvements but to outright lie to us is worse.

So, do we need to retest our fixt of running in a corner to stop the AFK from happening?

How is Victory for everyone for our historical heroes? I'm pretty sure my Victory is about empty (really need to update my list, maybe this weekend). And sorry I didn't make it last night. I was just too exhausted and decided to call it an early night. I knew I had a 12+ hour day coming today at work so I felt better just storing up the energy to get me through this day.

I'm not sure if they ever put it back up on the test server but they have changed it -- you're now immune from the auto-AFK and auto-logout if you are on a mission map or if you are on a Task Force.

So if mostly pushes us to stick to indoor missions.

Heroes of history sounds interesting, cept the historical figures I can think of that have intruiged me, I eventually realized were villains -- Nobunaga Oda sounded cool until I remember that history remembers him as a villain. Then I thought of Yang Kuei-fei but realize that she, too, would be a villain.

Hm, I just thought of Lao Tzu tho that feels kinda blasphemous.

(One more person who came to mind... Yukio Mishima, also a villain.)

Victory works for me for historical type characters.... not sure If I can make the TF for this weekend with Doc, however. We D&D on Saturday, and my daughter is coming for the week starting on Sunday.

Ah-ha! I think I've thought of someone who's always intruiged me that could work...

Lady Shikibu Murasaki, credited as the first modern novelist. It's always been an ambition for me to read The Tale of Genji. (Tried a few times and failed.)

Too bad the cosume creator doesn't allow kimonos...

I just tried to make Ghandi or Mahatma Ghandi for the Victory server and both names were already used. I made a M. Ghandi and ran him through the outbreak, but I never liked initials much. Anyway, Ghandi is an empathy char with psionic powers. Of course he would never raise a hand in violence, so he uses his mind instead!

I'll be visiting the folks from Thursday through
Saturday next week, so the earliest I would be
able to make the attempt would be sometime
Sunday afternoon.

As for doing Positron, I could do that. Star
is close enough to 16 that I'd be able to hit
it during the TF. A Level 45 Grav controller
gave me 90k in influence last night so I was
able eto put some DOS in propel and lift as
well as some DOs in my holds. I feel a little
better about that. I do think that Star will
be able to help on the Vahz portion by locking
down the Eids, but the best I seem able to do
against the cadavers is just slow them down.

I may need to start laying rad on them as
well ... see if that helps those vomit
projectiles miss us! 8-)

Well I went ahead and created Mystical Merlin on Victory. He's a dark/empathy defender. I'm going to play Rodrigo a little bit more as a scrapper to see how I like it and then will move him over as well.

I'll make Edgar Allan Poe as soon as I can. I haven't logged into CoH for over 3 days now. Guess I need a fix.

Move him over? You can make move characters from one server to another? How do you do that?

Okay, Edgar Allan Poe (that's the name I took) is on Victory and is currently a couple of bubbles past 5th level. And I did make him a Dark Melee/Dark Armor scrapper.

So is there a plan for us to get together
today?

Gah.

I have a powerset in mind, but now I can't
figure out who'd be the best figure of
history for it...

Okay.

I'm going to use Mark Twain/Sam Clemens ...

If Doc's busy, I think we should start Positron today on Infinity. Maybe SLK's Val, Vee's Beauty, Blue's Star and Princess?

if we do it, it'd have to be soon - i'll be busy this evening

I'm available now, but is Val an 11? That's the
minimum level.

Who wants to meet up on the test server today?

Sam Clemens and Mahtma-Ghandi are on Victory if anyone wants to join us.

Sorry we weren't up earlier to join you guys when you were on earlier. Add my new character to the Victory legion. Her name is St Jean D'Arc. (Joan of Arc) All other spellings and incarnations of her were already taken. She is a broadsword scrapper. I am pretty happy with her so far. She is at the same as Scott, 5 and 2 bubbles.

Princess, Beauty & Star are currently on Infinity if anyone wants to join us. We might be able to start Positron

Well I don't know what they hell they've done but I'm pissed. I had no problems all night or early this morning when I was playing. But they upload the next issue to the test server and I'm suddenly having my computer shut down again. Not just booting me out of the game but shutting down my whole system as if the power went out. The last time this happened was when issue 2 was released and I couldn't go near Steel Canyon for weeks.

I couldn't even get onto the Test Server
when I tried earlier. And just now my PC
entirely locked up ... not good.

Sorry about that, Scott. I still have that problem periodically, although, I gotta say that it happens less and less with each new update.


The Heroes of History was pretty fun today. It's nice to try something completely different and not be a scrapper all of the time. This is definitely something I'd like to try again in the future (as if I don't have enought going on with Blok, Porcupine Pete, Val Armorr, and Silver Slasher - ooh, just forget about her for awhile ) Anyway, as a history buff, it was kin of a cool thing to see the diverse characters being role played (even if I really don't have a clue what Ghandi would ever say )

Anyway, I hope you guys are able to do the Positron TF. Don't worry about Val, I'm sure he can do it with someone else some time.

I tried again with Blok on Virtue last night, but I didn't get started until 11:00 PM! By 1:00 I had literally fallen asleep in the middle of one of the battles! How embarassing. I had to politely excuse myself and leave.

Princess P and I are on Infinity now waiting
for the rest of you. Come on! Let's bring
those thugs to justice!

Sorry to hear about the troubles you've been having getting on the test server.

I got a look around and some of what I've seen:

- The zone events are monsters with some extra hype. In IP there's a giant squid that causes the dock workers to go on strike until the harbor is safe. In KR a bunch of clocks build a giant robot, Paladin.

- Apparently the character creation slider has more flexibility. However, that's screwed up all the existing ones. Hopefully they'll be working on this.

- The Fifth Column are gone. They seem to have been split into two groups.

Can you try out any of the epic powers or do
you have to be the right level to use them in
the game?

And character creation? What did they do?

And where is everyone?!

I hear anyone can try out a Kheldian character on the test sever but I haven't tried yet.

I hear they tweaked the values of the body types so that the range is greater. However that messes up everyone pre-redo... I guess it stores your characters' body types as XX% tall/XX% athletic, but the sliders have move so if your character is 37% tall/24% athletic, it now lands in a different spot.

A couple more changes... your map can now be set to turn certain map points on or off, like contacts or exits. And you can set your text colors in the options window (so I hear, never tried it myself.)

Right now, I'm on pinaccle working Capt Hottie through Synapse. I'm gonna try to focus him on the 5t column while they're still around.

Well, that TF went by rather quickly. I'm chasing down sky raiders at the moment.

Sorry guys. But its not my fault. I have no problems doing anything else from converting video for hours on end to webwork. But I get into CoH and it kills my whole PC. And if they answer me again that it is a computer problem I'll probably go postal and hunt down every single dev involved in the last patch. There is not a gd thing wrong with my PC. If there was I would have trouble doing other things. If its my PC why is only CoH affected? They won't answer that question. Too busy trying to lay blame elsewhere so they don't have to admit they fuc**d up.

For those who haven't seen what has been loaded to the Test Server:

Recently Added To The Training Room: 11/20/04
Game Stability

•Fixed critical bug that caused the mapserver to crash if a player in a team with a story arc as the active mission attempted to report a bug.


Recently Added To The Training Room: 11/19/04

Epic Archetypes

• Upon attaining level 50, you will unlock the first Epic Archetype available in City of Heroes. The Kheldians are a race of energy beings that have made Earth their new home. Kheldians and their dark cousins, the Nictus, attach to humans and form a symbiotic relationship with them.

• You can play one of two new Archetypes, Peacebringers are the typical Kheldians, while Warshades are reformed Nictus who now fight for good.

• Peacebringers are Natural Origin, while Warshades are Science based.

• Peacebringers and Warshades have only one Primary and one Secondary Powerset to choose from, but these powersets have more powers to choose from than a normal powerset.


• A Peacebringer’s first contact is in Atlas Park.

• A Warshade’s first contact is in Galaxy City.

• Kheldians have unique storylines throughout their career, in addition to being able to access the normal game content.

• Kheldians have a severe vulnerability to a specific type of energy. Unfortunately sinister forces have made every villain group in Paragon City aware of this, and even supplied some with weapons that can severely hurt Kheldians. Be wary of villains wielding strange weapons, or the mysterious Void Hunters.

Epic Power Pools

• Upon reaching level 41, you gain the ability to choose from a new set of Power Pools, the Epic Power Pools. You can only choose one of these Pools, so make your choice wisely.

• Blasters

-Cold Mastery


-Force Mastery

-Flame Mastery

-Munitions Mastery

• Controllers

-Stone Mastery

-Fire Mastery

-Ice Mastery

-Primal Forces Mastery


-Psionic Mastery

• Defenders

-Dark Mastery

-Power Mastery

-Psychic Mastery

-Electricity Mastery

• Scrappers

-Body Mastery

-Darkness Mastery


-Weapon Mastery

• Tankers

-Energy Mastery

-Pyre Mastery

-Arctic Mastery

-Earth Mastery

Zone events

• Dock workers in Independence Port have gone on strike until their job security can be insured.


• The Clockwork King is hard at work on something big in Kings Row.

• From Talos Island and Independence Port come reports of a ghost ship that appears from the fog.

New Villain Group: The Council

• An internal coup de tat has shattered the 5th Column, and from their remnants, a new villain group, the Council has emerged. Rumor has it that the Council is not as new as we would be led to believe. Heroes are urged to investigate every aspect of this new group across all Security Levels.

Badges

• 5th Column badges have been switched over to Council badges (Credit for 5th column defeats remain).

• Modified badge tracking for defeats so that everyone on the team gets credit, not just the teammates within 200 feet of the villain.


New Zone: Striga Isle

• Smugglers on Talos Island can secure passage for anyone Security Level 20 or over to Striga Isle, an island just off the coast of the United States in international waters. This criminal haven is rumored to be a stronghold and training center for Council troops.

Mission Difficulty Slider

• Hero Corp has placed agents throughout Paragon City who are able to put a word to all your Contacts about how tough you think you are. Find one of these contacts and for a small fee of Influence they can make all missions you have and take from that point forward harder.

• These Hero Corp personnel exist in all City Zones.

Powers

• Villains of higher levels (25 and up) have been made tougher.


• Villains of higher levels (25 and up) are now worth more Experience, based on how much tougher they got.

• Villains who are notoriously hard (and thus avoided by Heroes whenever possible) have had their XP reward increased.

• Monsters, no matter what their level, will con Purple now. This is because the monsters are able to be fought by the entire level range of Heroes. That is, your character will hit and do damage to them as though they are your level. Additionally, they will hit and damage you as though you are their level. Heroes of ANY level should be cautious around ANY monster now.

• Fixed Short help for Super Strength/Rage (Long help was correct. Power was not changed).

• Frostfire and Atta are now a new Rank: “Elite Boss”. Elite Bosses are tougher than normal bosses, but not as tough as ArchVillains. Elite Bosses are worth more XP than regular bosses.

• Radiation Emission/EMP Pulse will now do extra damage to most machines and robots.

• Changed the way many temporary powers expire. Many that were based on \qreal-time\q will now expire based on number of charges instead. This is to prevent gaining a new Temp Power, logging out, and then coming back the next day and find it missing. This change only applied to Temp Powers that were Click Powers. Toggle and Auto Temp Powers do not expire when you are off line.

• Group Flight: Removed added Endurance Penalty for each Teammate carried. Slightly Increased base END Cost.

• Team Teleport: Removed added Endurance Penalty for each Teammate teleported. Slightly Increased base END Cost.


• Powers that “Drain” or effect a target to buff of heal the caster have been modified. Previously, these powers would give you less of a Buff/Heal if used against a higher level foe, and more of a buff/heal if used against a lower level foe. Now, powers like these will give the same buff/heal as though you were targeting a foe of your level (e.g. life draining powers, powers that steal Endurance, or powers that debuff foes to buff the caster). This fix will also affect any power that does something to a target and then something to the caster. For instance, using a Nova Blast will no longer drain a different amount of Endurance from the caster depending upon the level of your villain targets.

• Whirlwind, Repel, and Repulsion Field will KnockBack foes of all levels the same distance. That is, Repulsion Field will no longer lock higher level foes into permanent KnockDown. (This is a change to the level of a target and does not affect a targets resistance to or vulnerability to KnockBack).

• Increased the effectiveness of the Defender version of Transfusion, Kinetics, Twilight Grasp, Siphon Power, and Kinetic Transfer by about 25% so they are consistently better than the Controller Version (both Controller and Defender version used to be the same).

• Modified Totem, Rikti Monkey and Sky Skiffs attacks.

• The Family now has Tommy Guns.

• Updated Force Field/Detention Field f/x.

• Animate Stone can now fly with the assistance of Group Fly.

• Change to FEAR: Villains that are afraid will no longer run away. Afraid villains will now tremble and cower in place and not attack. They will, however, retaliate once if attacked, but then go back to trembling. This change will affect most Fear powers including: Pool/Manipulation/Intimidate; Pool/Manipulation/Invoke Panic; Scrapper Melee/Dark Melee/Touch of Fear; Scrapper Defense/Dark Armor/Cloak of Fear; Defender Buff/Dark Miasma/Fearsome Stare; Controller/Mind Control/Terrify (villains will still run away from the Spectral Terror, but will halt and tremble if the Spectral Terror casts Terrify on them.)


• Villains will now better Avoid AoE powers like Rain of Fire. That is, they will run out like always, but wont blindly go back into the hazardous area.
Slightly increased the Damage of Burn to compensate for the new above Avoid behavior.

• For all targeted toggle powers; if the target is over 300’ away the toggle power will automatically turn off.

Game

• Fixed the long door wait bug, that left players with an hourglass cursor unable to act for an extended period

• Minimap is now resizable and has an options pulldown.

• Added /assist command which will change your target to a selected allies target.

• Autorun will not turn off at ID Card, Enhancement Screen, Power Selection/Respec or Options screen

• Dialogs can be answered via 'dialogyes', dialogno' or 'dialoganswer ' slash commands


• Player description in the Info window will now respect enters and tabs

• Quit will no longer be interrupted by mouse clicks. If you are quitting to the desktop you will be given the choice to exit immediately

• Wrapped text in chat window will now be indented, to prevent player spoofing of other people (including GM's)

• Added new commands powexec_toggleon and powexec_toggleoff to force mode of a toggle power

• It is no longer allowed to give gifts to people in the middle of a respec.

• Some columns in supergroup, search, email, and friend windows can now be resized

• You can now hit an opponent with a melee attack while chasing after them.

• The Supergroup window has been revamped. Unnecessary fields were removed and it now displays level and map. The window is also 2-stage collapsible, the header can be hidden, and then the bottom buttons can be hidden as well.


• Increased Arch Villain and Monster HP for all levels. XP was increased accordingly to compensate.

• Increased Perception Radius for Giant Monsters.

• Reduced Detention time and increased recharge time of Rularuu/Wisp/Detention Field.

• Updated Requiem’s, and Nosferatu’s powers.

I've got pix up of the giant squid and Paladin the robot at the blog .

Ok, so I fly around and get about a quarter of Striga Island mapped out, get the Vulcanoligst badge and just generally check the place out. For about an hour. And guess what? I didn't get kicked off or have my PC shut down.

I log into the live server and five minutes later, boom! I'm so pissed I don't even know the words to express it. I am ready to just walk away from this game and switch to World of Warcraft.

Haven't run across the ghost ship, squid or Paladin yet. And I can still only keep a connection on the test server.

Yay!

It's back!

And we kicked nass on the task force today,
guys!

8-)

Okay, guys.

Scott and I just logged off from the test
server. I don't know how the game will play
for the lower levels, but as a 30-something
player I'm not at all happy with the changes
that are being made to the HPs of the bad
guys. To me the increase in XP isn't worth
the additional effort that it takes. Blue
died about 5 times in the time that we were
online ... which was what, Scott? About half
an hour?

Minions were killing me ... minions. Guys that
I can wipe up the floor with on a regular basis
in the regular game were cleaning my clock in
the test server. I remember someone saying that
Stateman believed that the average hero should
be a match for 3 equal level minions ... and
that seems to be what they're shooting for here.

But a flipping super hero should be able to do
a lot better than 3 flunkies ... especially when
they tend to come in groups that are much larger
than that.

I don't mind teaming, but I don't want to have
to team to cross the street ... if Argossy were
this bad a level 6 would be killed by 2 shots
from a Fallen Gunner ...

The damn developers have to take everything
that's fun in this game and screw it up ...



Maybe it won't seem so bad when they actually
implement the changes, but as someone who does
a lot of soloing with my level 31 character I'm
not happy at all...

My guess is the new upload might go live over Thanksgiving weekend. They seem to do these things (special events & new issue releases) on holidays. Not sure I'm excited about some of the changes you're reporting. I'm in the process of downloading the patch to the test server (it's been downloading since 11 PM last night and still has about 10K to go as of 6 AM!) so maybe later today I'll get onto the test server to see for myself.

The Positron TF WAS great fun on Infinity! (Never thought I would say that about Positron!) Thanks to Princess P, Star, & Kent for keeping Beauty alive through most of it.

Last night Condo met up with Pete and we ran a few level 21 & 22 missions. (Grats to Pete for reaching lvl 22!) Pete's Lost mish in KR was a bear. Pete had never seen Pariah Prelates before and they caught him by surprise.

Condo's Freakshow mission (first time against them for either of us) was a learning experience also. Freak lieutenants & bosses can rez themselves! YIKES! I never heard that before (nor had Pete) and it sure caught us by surprise and left us very leery about any Freak we killed. I found myself waiting until the body disappeared before I felt sure that they weren't coming back.

Lots to get used to!

Yikes! That sounds awful, Blue! Have you posted your concerns to the board?

I'm hoping the patch doesn't go for a little while longer -- partly because it's sounding as flawed as Update 2, but also because I'm trying to gring Captain Hottie through his levels and do the Bastion TF before Update 3 goes in... I'd like one of my guys to experince finishing off the Fifth Column before they become the council.

Captain Hottie did Synapse this weekend and that was an interesting expereince. Our team was 2 fire blasters, a dark scrapper, a sword scrapper, a illuionist and a rad/rad def. Wow, that was a powerhouse team, we really charged through the missions. Overall a good group, despite the random pickup. We had only one problematic player, a charge ahead type who thankfully could handle a whole mob's aggro... 'cause there were many times we watched him battle after he charged ahead despite the controller and defenders calls to gather for buffs.

I'd be totally into playing with Prism Lord, tho so if we're doing Virtue, give me a holler.

I proved my alt-aholism this weekend tho when I ended up creating a leather-clad martial artist, Cassandra Steed, after watching one of my Avengers DVDs. (Yes, even tho I'm trying to focus on one character, I had to create another when inspiration came.)

I still haven't managed to get this game, but it sure sounds fun

It really is, dedman! I've never gotten into computer/video games before and couldn't understand how someone could spend hours playing them UNTIL I got this. Now I play it just about every night and almost all weekend. It's a great deal of fun. More so because there is such a great group of posters from LW that are regulars and we have a great time playing our heroes together.

At about $40 for the game (which includes one free month and then a monthly subscription of $15 (I think....when I renewed I paid for the entire year) it's relatively cheap for the number of hours of fun it provides.

Hope you give it a shot! Make sure you look for us if you do. All our heroes and the servers on which they reside can be found on the other highlighted thread (there is a link in my sig line)

Vee

Well, it took all night and I'm going to be
regretting this in the morning, but Grem and
I got Blue up to level 32 and he got his
ultimate power...Full Auto.

AS I expected, it's a power that the 5th has
used ... it's not exactly as cool as a Phantasm,
but it should be pretty devastating in its own
right once I get it slotted with enough
damages. It makes me feel a little better about
the prospects of facing issue 3 now ...

Get used to the Freaks, guys. They'll be
around until Level 39, at least ... *sigh*

Did you guys have to fight a tank?

Vee, your Invisible Lyle is on Infinity,
right? What level is he? I think we
should definitely spend some time working
on getting him up to be high enough for the
TF up to and including grant invisibility.
Princess' power really helped us speed
through the mish by skipping over the
minions.

At this point, I'm not sure if I should
just exemp Star to do it again or maybe
work on Brin to get him up to a high
enough level to do that TF as well ...
does anyone know if the exemped guy
gets disconnected does he get kicked off
the TF? I know that if the person he's
exemped to does, he will, but I don't
know what happens if he does ...

Alternatively, I think Star is still
just under 17, so if enough people
want to do it again soon I could play
him at it one more time ...

Hello?

*taps microphone*

Anyone here?

Echo!

I just took Blue to his store in Founder's
Falls ... I HATE that place! I died twice
before I got to him. Why they place the
contacts that you have to get stuff from
beginning at level 31 on in the midst of
Level 38 baddies I'll never know. I flew
in stealthy, and I still got sniped to
death twice. As to how someone with super
speed and super jump would get there, I
haven't a clue ...

If I can still play him after Issue 3 goes
out, I'm definitely going to finish up
the invisiblity pool so I can take phase
shift. Being able to run around doing a
Tinya Wazzo impression may be the only way
to travel there!

So...where is everyone going to play tonight?

Sorry for not being around this week guys. I haven't logged in since still having the shut down issues last weekend and have been using the time to build a new website. Something else else I've been putting off for too long. I doubt I'll log in the rest of the week with Thanksgiving and some people traveling to be with family. Maybe this coming weekend after everyone has eaten their fill of turkey we can get together.

BTW, Caroline was playing when I left for work this morning and she says they've added Button Men to the Hollows. The ones she saw were level 11 and hanging with some Trolls of the same level so I think we can safely assume they weren't left over from an ambush.

No problem Scott. I figured this week would be light with the Holidays anyway.

I spent some time exploring on the test server but never got to see the Ghost Ship that is supposed to exist in Talos or the Squid in IP.

I did go to Stirga Island and it was pretty cool. There is a volcano on it and the Council apparently has a base inside the crater. The crater itself is sealed with a mechanical doorway type portal. Didn't see anyway in so I imagine it opens for missions.

Stirga seems to be populated mostly with Banished Pantheon and Council, both ranging from level 21 -28 (at least those are what I saw.)

I also got to team with a level 11 kheldian which was neat. They kind of look like shrimp! I SKed him and did a Sky Raiders mish with him and had a great time although I didn't notice any "boosting of powers" effect from him. Of course he was only an 11 so I'm not sure if it would have been all that noticeable to Condo at 21 (on the test server)

I'd kind of like to spend some more time on the test server with our group to really explore the new changes and see how it will effect game play for us.

Did you get the Vulcanologist badge while you were checking out the volcano? There were a couple of level 50s hanging around there when I visited so I was able to sneak in and get it without alerting the guards (can't remember what they were) that were protecting the rim of the volcano.

Didn't know there was a badge and I didn't stumble over it. There were a couple of high level hanging around when I got there also so I didn't see any guards at all on the volcano. Guess I'll have to go back and look for the badge later.

Its on the rim so you don't have to go inside since there are usually guards there (maybe the others had picked them off before you got there, that's what the guys I saw had been doing). I was able to fly around the edge of it to pick it up.

I'm not going to be able to play again after
tonight until probably Sunday. Is anyone going
to be up to a pre-Thanksgiving game?

Sure, i'm not cooking this year (okay, I'm making that up to myself by cooking a turkey on friday, I'm thinking I might need to talk to a therapist about this) so all I've got to make tonight is the cranberries... everything else can be made at a rather relaxed pace tomorrow.

So I've got time. I'm leaving the office early, too, tho I have to stop at the store to buy chestnuts.

Where would we like to play?

Pete & Condo are on Virtue

Sigh, I wish I could play. The days leading up to olidays at the paper are always a trial, but this Thanksgiving seems particularly bad -- mostly because of the new computer system we're in the middle of switching over to -- so everything's all messed up.

It's 9:13, and I'm still here -- probably for another half hour or so. Yippee.

Is anybody still playing or did you guys
call it a night?

<marquee behavior=alternate><font size="7">FUC*!</font s></marquee>

I STILL cannot keep a connection. And they continue to ignore my petition and bug reports. This is it. If it is not fixed by December 1 when my subscription expires I will not be renewing.

The paper?

Do you work at a newspaper, Seymour? *Is
curious.*

Sorry, buddy. That sucks.

I wish you could use a phone for stuff like
that to get a live person. Can you not log on at
all still or do you just keep getting disconnected?

By the way, guys, I was reading the Test Server
forum about the new Epic Powers. I know that
none of us will have to wrry about those for a
while as you don't get access to them until
Level 41, but it sounds like the ones who came
out really well are the Blasters ... they get
access to some of the invulnerability powers,
including Unstoppable!

(I've seen Unstoppable as Blue while teamed
up with some level 40s. It's pretty much the
equivalent of being the Incredible Hulk on
one of his rage-induced highs ... you can
kick butt on a massive scale ... but at the
end of two minutes it runs out and drains
all your endurance. It's the level 32 power
for invulnerable tanks.)

Tanks STILL didn't get a damage improvement. *Sigh* Poor Andrew ... even the non-Tanks
were complaining about that. Scrappers didn't
get much love either ...Controllers fared a
little better, and I think the Defenders got
pretty much the same defense pool power options
as the Blasters ....

Unfortunately for me, Blue already has four
sets of Pool Powers, so I won't be able to
take an Epic Set even if I get him up to 41
unless I do a respec and get rid of one of
my pools. And to be honest, I really don't
want to get rid of ANY of the pools I have
now ... flight and stamina are must haves,
and since I didn't take devices I need the
defense bonus that Stealth gives him ...
and I could probably get by without Recall
Friend, but it's just too darn useful to
give up.

So Blue isn't going to be Epic, I don't
think ...

Yup, I'm a mild-mannered copy editor (proof reading, photo captions, page layout) for a major metropolitan newspaper (and temporary boss since mine quit a couple weeks ago, but I decided not to take the job full time). I work in the features department, which means I don't have to work those awful 10 p.m.-6 a.m. shifts, but with us being short staffed, holiday vacations, extra big sections because of extra holiday advertising and a new computer system that's turning into a living nightmare (which, of course, was predicted months ago, but nobody in power listened), I've had an insane amount of overtime, and this week has been 12-13-hour days (hi, Scott!). Luckily, another advantage of the features department is that I actually get the major holidays off since our stuff is done in advance, so I get to kick back with the turkey today -- and do another 12-hour day tomorrow.

But the plus side of all this OT is that the San Diego con is pretty much assured for next year. But I'd certainly give it up for a return to a normal life.

And, Scott, I'm really sorry to hear about your continued connection problems. Where will the Legion be without Garth? And I wonder why you're having so much more trouble than Caroline. Do what you must, but know you will be missed.

Scott, I'm really sorry to hear that. Hope you're able to get this sorted out because CoH won't feel the same without you. Besides, who's going to be Mysa's favorite patient, keeping her on her toes, if Garth's not around!

Seriously, that really sucks.

Hey gang, I'll be on either Infinity (as Dreaming Death or Hothouse) or Pinnacle (as Chorus or CztheDay) on and off all day.

I can log in and it stays connected, the first time, for about 45 minutes to an hour. If I log in after it shuts me down then I can usually only stay on about 15 minutes.

My PC runs 24/7. I'm always downloading something (comic books, britcoms) unless I'm playing or programming. I never have connection problems especially ones that cause my PC to shut down with no warning. And I have no trouble playing on the test server. It works just fine. I wound up almost fully mapping Striga the other night as well as IP and Talos where I've only just begun to play.

What really ticks me off is their continued refusual to answer me. I've sent them my laptop settings, I've installed and reinstalled all the latest drivers. But they still don't acknowledge it. I think they'd rather spend their time trying to gimp the game than work on real issues.

I sent a suggestion to the forum site about
disconnect ... I wonder if anyone will
respond to it?

Hope everyone is having a nice Thanksgiving. I just got home from the family bash and will be on Infinity for a little while (Princess P, Danny).

Yes, everyone have a nice Thanksgiving.

I'm Herocrackless atm at my folks ... and Im
fine. Really. Fine. Yes. Exactly. Did I mention
I was fine? Oh yeah ...

On a saner note ... ;-)

I've been reading the Forums today. It
sounds like there have been a lot of people
who've been having disconnect problems in the
game ... a few of the things I read about
reminded me of the problem you were having
Scott, but I'm not technically trained enough
to know if they were the same thing...

I'll be on CoH most of tonight so if anyone else is around please post where you're going to be.

I was on Victory for all of, oh about 2 minutes, before...SHUT DOWN!

Damn! What I can't understand is why you can stay on the test server, where the patch was loaded and not on the main server where they haven't changed anything. Makes NO friggin sense!

No sense at all. That's why it has to be something they have done in that last patch that isn't active on the test server. Otherwise, in my opinion, both would crash my PC. The only thing I haven't done is delete the game and reload it. I don't think I should have to do that since it means there is something wrong with their software that should be acknowledged.

If anyone is interested in playing today, PM me... I'll be on a bit later after a short nap

Well one of the nicer things that they wil be
putting in wil be Global Chat that will allow
you to chat accross servers, I think. That'll
make it easier to find people...

And I had a couple of Herocrack dreams last
night. In one, the devs had created a server
where the look of the characters was like that
of pre-school toy figures/Lego figures ... it
made the Hellions and Vahz Zombies look kinda
cute. ;-)

In the second, we were taking part in a major
event and I was worried that the GMs were going
to crush our Comic-Related Toons...

Well, I'm hopping on Infinity -- almost got Princess P up to 18 and Phantom Army!

You know, it seems like the last great powers
for a while pops up at 18. That's when Andrew
got invincibility, and Star finally gets his
GDF at 18 ...

I just finished submitted what I termed (in the report) my final attempt at resolving my problem. I really cannot believe that they haven't even so much as acknowledged that I've sent them the error report in the past. I even attached a newly run DXDiag report and a Hijackthis log. If I ever get a response from them it had better not be the normal "your drivers are out of date" claptrap. I have more recent drivers than they do. I think I even installed a new driver for my USB drives to just make sure EVERYTHING was up-to-date.

Played for about 90 minutes tonight before being shut down. That seems to be the norm when I haven't played for a bit. Then it drops to 5 to 15 minute shut down intervals.

Huh. I had 3 disconnects in about 7 hours of play
tonight... which is awfully low for me.

I wonder what it will be like tomororw?

One hour, 52 minutes. Bam!

I finally got some kind of answer. GM Patrick (why a GM is answering a ticket submitted directly to Tech Support, I don't know) said he was escalating my issue ('bout sprockin' time!) to a tech support rep (again, the ticket was sent directly to them to begin with) and someone would contact me as soon as possible. That was 3 1/2 hours ago.

Well, maybe they can fix your problem. I wish
I could get mine fixed.

The Infintiy Legion had a pretty productive
time last night. Princess got her Phantom
Army, Beauty got a new power-- Blaze, wasn't
it, Vee?-- Star got to 17 and is within 4
bubbles of hitting 18-- and Super Kara hit
14 and got flight.

Would anyone like to play on Infinity today?
I'd like to get Star up to 18. I get his
ultimate lockdown power then, and I'm curious
to see how good it is ...

Blok finally finished the Positron Task Force mission!! On my third try of getting a random group of strangers to help me do the TF, everyone bailed on me leaving poor Blok on his own to finish the task after only three missions. Well, I was determined to finish it this time even if I had to do it myself. Thankfully, I had a heap of influence from some nice high-leveler who liked my costume, so I did some major upgrading. I 6-slotted my Resist Physical Damage and put defensive DO's in all slots. I added some DO's to my two attack powers. Next thing I know, I'm taking on Vaz and CoT bosses single-handedly!

Things go by much simpler when playing solo TF's. In fact I don't think there are nearly as many missions. I only completed four after my teammates left. I thought that there were ten or so misisons altogether. Also, there were no courier type missions, something I distinctly remember the last time I did this.

Anyway, I'm happy. The XP was very nice, as was the challenge of soloing. It would have been nice to have some fellow Legionnaires along, but I guess I just need to be more patient. :-)

Grats, SLK! Sounds like Blok is really a powerhouse now. Rokk made it to level 12 so he should be ready to do the Positron TF now. Anyone have 10-16 level chars on Virtue that want to try it?

Way to go, SLK! That's interesting that it dropped missions while you were soloing. That was nice of the devs.

I think I'm gonna pop on to Infinity and see who's there. Maybe we can get Star his gdf. I'll be there or on Virtue.

XS Ive is still just an 8, though she's closing
in on 9. i suppose I could work on her some to
get her up to 10. 8-)

I hate when I run out of missions and have 2 levels to go before Ill get new contacts

Or maybe not -- It's not letting me connect.

CoH is DOWN for both Scott and I. Scott was in communication with GM's about his problems and they hardly accepted responsibility at all. Finally they admitted that maybe their patch did something screwy to Scott's connection and offered him some 'fix-its' which he tried. Scott has Edgar Allan Poe less then 2 bubbles from lvl 9 and the whole damn thing crashed. It not only took him out, it took me out as well. This just kills me because if they can't provide better service, Scott is going to not renew at all. Dammit!

Danny, try to team up with people and do their
mishs? 8-)

Seymour, Beauty, Danny, and I just logged off.
I got GDF now! 8-) And ... I got to mutate
Danny's character once. 8-)

Caroline, I'm sorry...

I know Blue, I just rarely have to time to play long enought to team with someone. Today was an exception and a fun one!

Caroline, wish there was something I could do to help.

Sorry to hear about the connection troubles Scott, Caroline. That's got to be so infuriating.

I've been grinding XP with Captain Hottie on Pinnacle off and on this weekend. Feel free to send me a tell if anyone goes on Pinnacle.

Caroline's problem stemmed from whatever caused them to take their servers offline (without an announcement). She's back up and running around with her new military group.

My last try logging in lasted exactly 25 minutes and I've sent off yet another e-mail to support. They finally admitted in their last one that there is a possibility that their patch may be causing the issue but they don't know what to do about it. They also don't seem to understand why I can play for hours on the test server but only minuts on the live server.

Man, I wish I could give you some advice about your crashing problems, Scott. My game still does it on occassion, but it's been getting better. Have you tried reinstalling the whole game? I know it's not exactly something anyone would want to do, but at least please consider it before walking away from the game!

That actually appears to be their final solution. I just now received another e-mail from them and this was their last recommendation before walking away from the problem. Guess I need to figure out which CD is mine and which is Caroline's.

At least the nice thing about it is that you
don't lose your characters because they're on
the server instead of your hard drive.

This board has been unusually quiet...

Well I'm still working through my issues and today is the last day of my six month membership. Its not looking too hopeful for me to continue playing.

Ouch.

That's too bad buddy ... 8-(

Still no answer from them. But I did manage to change my registry settings where I think that some part of CoH still was. I also updated my BIOS with a recent update from HP. This time the CoH install took a lot longer and none of my default settings were in place (like remembering my login ID) so I think I've finally got a clean install. One word of warning. If you ever have to uninstall the game DO NOT use the uninstall function from the CoH folder itself. Use Window's uninstall feature instead. If you just run the uninstall from CoH it just uninstalls the uninstall. Real stupid.

Anyway, I played for just about 30 minutes with Edgar and it seemed okay. Just didn't want to dedicate too much time to really test. But I did pick up the Jewel of Hera mission. Is that the one with the Spelunker badge higher levels pay to participate with?

Yeah, Scott I think that's the Spelunker mish, or at least a badge mish of some sort.

Hope this means that your problem is resolved. Wish they could figure out what caused it because if they don't it's may just be a matter of time before we all "catch" it!

On the bright side, Condo & Grev were on Virtue tonight and we teamed up with a great group of about 5-6 other people. We had blast doing a few door missions (our first Banished Pantheon experience, & first Family experience) and hunted a bunch of Warriors in Talos and Tsoo in Talos & IP.

Condo started out the night soloing to get rid of the 7800 debt he had earned recently. Even after dying once outside a door mish in an ambush, he ended the night having leveled to 23 and down to 800 debt! Grev also leveled to 22 so it was a very successful evening for both of us and a great deal of fun too.

So is anyone playing now?

From what I gathered in my nearing 20 e-mails with tech support this game was never meant to be played on a laptop. It is a power hog and a laptop's basic settings don't mesh well. Supposedly there is a chance (they didn't mention how high of one) of the game burning out a laptop's video card. Real nice to advertise that upfront isn't it? Since I use my laptop basically as a desktop I've had to set all my settings to make the laptop think it is a desktop. And I've taken out my battery (did that ages ago) to stop more heat from building up. I may pick up a stand to place it on that will give it more ventilation than just having it sit on a desk.

My friend from Indiana has a really cool docking
port for his laptop. It puts it an an angle so the
vents are in mid-air. It's an HP too.

That's the one I'm thinking of. Its made specially for the laptop Pavilions. It is supposed to make them more of a desktop machine. The trick is just finding one at a decent price. Maybe it'll be my Christmas present.

Called in sick this morning, and I spent
most of the day on the couch, so I didn't
get much of a chance to play tonight. I did
manage to run Blue Battlette for a little bit
and took down an equal level Lead Scorcher all
by my lonesome. 8-)

Interesting fact, though. He had just unleeashed
some fire imps on me, but that was right when I
killed him, and they went down at the same time.
Makes me wonder what happens with a fire
controllers' imps ...

Well after the full clean out and new BIOS I think the problem may have been solved. Still have yet to hear back from tech support but I was able to play the last 3 1/2 hours with only a momentary mapserver disconnect. I was able to get Edgar Allan Poe up to an 11. First character of mine to have Hasten six slotted.

Awesome to hear that Scott!

I don't know if I'll have time to play until this weekend (more 12 hour days the rest of the week). I'm hoping its really over. I also need to check my account to see if they auto renewed it for another six months.

Well that's that. I left work early today because I wasn't feeling well. I decided to see if CoH was going to work still for me. I try logging in and nothing, stuck on the connecting (CoH Updater) screen. Quit try again. Same thing. Quit try again. Same. Reboot my PC and after a 20 second or so wait the updater finally kicks in and downloads a new patch. You never would guess what happened next. One hour into playing and hey, what's this? My PC shuts down? That's never happened before after a patch.

I've had it. I don't know what the hell they were trying to 'fix' this time but I'm not wasting my time having to update my BIOS, clear out my registry, uninstall then reinstall the program everytime I want to play. Two hours work to get a couple of hours playing time is not worth it. I've sent another update to TS but I highly suspect their next answer is, get a desktop computer.

Thomas, if you haven't bought yourself the new laptop for your birthday yet, don't bother. At least not if you want to play CoH. The one we were talking about is in the same model line as mine and you are bound to, at least eventually, have the same issues.

Oh, and I had to log back in as quick as I could after being booted off since it left EAP stranded in the middle of Steel. He's just an 11, barely, and was surrounded by a bunch of 12th level Leads (went there for a new contact). Luckily he wasn't dead in the street when I logged back in but I had just enough time to reach AP and was selling my enhancements when it happened again. Exactly two minutes after logging in.

Comcast is giving a free 15 day trial of Asheron's Call 2. I think I'll try it out.

Argh, just as I was going to post congratulations, Scott. Sorry to hear CoH is still troubling you.

After this morning's patch, I had the same problem I had before, where logging in freezes my machine. I tried doing a reinstall of CoH and that got it to work. I'm hoping I only have to do that once.

When I got home from work today, I tried to log
on as well, and at first it had the same problem
with not connecting that you're talking about,
so I went ahead and rebooted and that got me
into the game.

I'm working on Bluette because I'd like to get her
up to 20 by this weekend. That's when I get her a
cloaking device, a new costume, and a cape if I
want to get her one. I'm about halfway to 18
now.



Scott, I guess I'll hold off on the new laptop
as the stories you've told me about possibly
burning out a video card don't induce me to want
one for COH all that bad.

Oh, I checked on the patch the first thing after
it got loaded. it was a gimp, of course: it had
something to do with duping influence ...

My friend back home has an XBox and we played
some Halo 2. That's kind of tempting me ... and
it's not really that expensive a process. The
XBox is 150, the game is 50, a subscription to
Xbox live for a year is 50, and then whatever
the wireless networking gear costs ... definitely
cheaper than a new laptop!

The weird thing for me is that I'd swear that my
connection has actually been a little better
lately ... thoguh I'm tempted right now to take
my PC off the router and hook it up directly to
the modem to see if that fixes the problem once
and for all. If it does, then I'd know the problem
was in my router ...

Hey, guys, I've got a question about
reinstalling COH. I've not had to do it
yet, but if I should have to at some
point in the future, do you need that
serial code that comes with the game?

The reason I'm asking is that I downloaded
the game from Cryptic's website directly so
I didn't HAVE any packaging, and I'm wondering
what I would need to do if I should ever have
to reinstall the game....

I think you DO have to have that serial number but I'm not certain. It should be in the email you received from Cryptic when you donwloaded it. If you didn't save it, you can probably get them to reissue it to you. But I would do so BEFORE you need it. Then print out the email and save it someplace.

You don't need the serial number unless you are re-registering the game, which isn't required. I've reinstalled it three times now and not had to provide the serial number. And NCSoft actually has a place in the account area (where you renew your time) for those who purchased the game online to get the serial number for it.

Just ran yet another dianostic sent to me by TS in order to track the problem. Now it looks like they are gearing towards it being my service provider. What that has to do with my PC shutting down I don't know. If it was like Blue's connectivity issues that's one thing. If I wasn't so pissed I'd go through the whole uninstall process again just to see if it would crash. To me that would prove it is something in their patch system.

I've thought about getting an XBox but that wouldn't do me any good as Caroline's mom watches the only TV that I could use to play on. I wonder if I could connect one to my old flat panel monitor.

Good question. I don't know. I want to say that
I've seen LED hookups you can buy to hook up to
XBoxes and Gamecubes ...

Oh... Where is the Legion going to play
tomorrow?

Geez. And I didn't see anyone on today.

Guess I'll see about putting another bubble
on Bluette...

Found it, Scott.

Xbox LCD

Gah. Just looked at the price. It'd be cheaper
to buy a TV. 8-)

Oh, man, Scott. Hate to see the problems your having. I had problems with my computer shutting down on occassion while playing the game, and it did lead to estended debt on more than one instance. I hate to say it, but I haven't had that problem in a long time. I think the patches have actually been working for me. Wish there was something I could do...

Thanks SLK. I did have this same problem when they first released issue two but it went away after the first patch. I've never had it last this long. They've also not answered me yet on the last diagnostic. I think I have them finally convinced it isn't my PC. Hell, the laptop is running better now than it did when I first bought it will all the updates I've done. The only problem I have is with CoH.

I have to say that I'm really dreading issue
3 more than wanting it. With all the cockups
from Issue 2, I just don't think they'll be
able to do the job right ...

I'm also disappointed with the ghost ship. I
read about it on the forums, and saw a picture
of it. Very lackluster if you ask me ...

Now the Octopus does look cool ...

And again he asks ...

Legion Night tonight. Where and who?

I'm pretty open. If we play on Infinity Star
can show off his new lockdown power. If we
play on Virtue I can see about getting Andrew
up to 22 and FINALLY get stamina out of the way
so I can pick fun powers. 8-)

Yeah, I have to say I'm not too excited about update 3. There nothing really exciting, content-wise (or I've become easily jaded) save for the zone events, and they're not exciting enough to overcome any bad changes to the gameplay.

I vote for Virtue tonight, I haven't played Prism since update 3 hit the test server... and my highest guy that I like on the Infi is level 11.

Oh and has anyone noticed aggro changing after yesterday's patch? Before yesterday, I could throw smoke grenades to my heart's concent and they'd never aggro. Last night (I was on a team so I can't be completely sure) SG seemed to be aggroing the crowd. Too bad, because I had gotten used to passing the time by debuffing the mob when I'm low on end.

Meanwhile, one blaster on our team was getting a ton of aggro, even when he'd try to run off and the rest of the team would try to attack whatever was beating on him. I'd even thow and AoE at him and that wouldn't notably pull the aggro to me. Overall, it seemed off tho we really couldn't tell how.

I didn't have any problems like that last night, but I'll keep an eye out. Doc's up to 17th now, and I still didn't get the Positron badge, now i'll have to exemplar to get it.... or is that still buggy?

Not really buggy but badly setup. You get kicked out of the TF if you unexemplar at all so exemplar with someone you know and trust and also has a solid connection.

Jade is level 8, but I could probably work her up to 15... and I think XS ive is on Virtue, too. I'm not into the idea of teaming Jade with strangers because of her appearance.

States just posted some of the Tanker changes they\'ll be posting to the test server

The best part tho?

Woo-hoo! I don't have to reroll Kamisori and Mr Brazil... two characters I've stopped playing after realising I "raised" them badly.

I wonder how long the respec will last? If I keep playing (still e-mailing with support today) I'd love to respec Gung. Does it mean, though, that we have to do the respec mission or do we automatically get the respec?

I'd like to play on Virtue tonight as well. Condo's now a 23 and pretty much out of debt but Mysa has some tough missions and over 8000 in debt so I'd like to work some of that off.

Firebow, I have Rokk at 12, and Quis at 10. I think SLK's Blok is probably still eligible for Positron (though he already completed it, and his Silver Slasher should be eligible as well. I suspect that Seymour's Saturn Lady is still in Positron range also so there are plenty of us that can do it with you.

Regarding the respec: Wow! If it's permanent, that would be awesome. I'll have to see about respec a number of them.

Scott, I wonder if you hang on until issue #3 goes live if you troubles will go away. It sounds like you haven't been having any problems on the test server so maybe THAT patch will resolve the problem you're having. (God only knows what it will do to the rest of us though!)

Just started to log in and saw a notice that Issue #3 is now available for download on the live server though it has yet to go "Live". Looks like just a few days to go before they roll it out. It will begin downloading when you log OFF (like in the past) and you can cancel it at any time so yuo can download it in stages and be ready to play right away when it goes live.

Both Caroline and I just started our updates. Actually we both had to quit then log in again just to quit for it to work. It didn't start the first time.

Now TS is looking at my router being the problem since my connection to their servers isn't going the way they expect it to. None of that explains why my PC shuts down or why I don't have a problem on the test server. I'll stick it out to see what will happen.

I'd like to play tonight as Garth has a ton of debt to work off. I haven't logged him in forever. I've been testing all this time with EAP who has become my favorite character.

Mysa would love to see Tas & Garth tonight.

Did you read the rest of that post from States,
Lyle? Of course they couldn't do stuff for
tanks without nerfing someone else.

Regen Scrappers are going to get nerfed by
making two of their best powers mutually
exclusive. As for the rest of us, we're
having our max damage resistance lowered
while Tanks stay the same.

I've got a tank in Andrew, so I'm going to see
some benefit, but I don't see why everyone else
has to take a hit.

I'd love to do the Positron TF with Xs Ive,
but I need to get her leveled up quite a bit
before that. She's only an 8 ... about halfway
to 9. i'd like to get her at least to 14 so I
have her travel power ... and at 12 I'll have
speed boost which'll make things easier for all
of us on the TF ...

And will anyone who plays Posi TF again have
TP? *plainitive look*

So what time will we be playing tonight?

Noooooo!!!! I still need Captain Hottie to level up to Bastion! He must have that final battle with the 5th...

I saw that but I don't really know what to think of it, not having any of my regen scrappers within range of either power. I do know that part of the cry of "Tanks are useless! Help us!" came the call that Regen scrappers, properly slotted, made better tanks because they could heal from the damage so quickly that it was like having amazing resistance... plus they did major damage.

The tankers pushing for fixes were wanting States to look at regen scrappers... at first he said they calculated that regen scrappers couldn't build resistance better than a tank, but then after more testing said that he realized that regen scrappers could get better resistance. (IIRC, natch)

I don't know much (not playing with high-level regen scrappers), but I see why they're hitting regen since regen was a target of tankers.

So why not just increase the Tanks even more
rather than nerfing the scrappers? That's the
whole problem with the process... they can't
seem to help someone without gimping someone
else ...

Cosmic Rokk and Xs Ive are on Virtue right now, waiting for the rest of you. I'll switch to
Andrew as soon as we have enough people. 8-)

4+ hours (I think, forget to actually time it). Maybe something is fixed now because I haven't done anything to change my PC. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Got Bluette within 2 bubbles of 18 last night--
time to pick Health from the fitness pool, bah!--
and got Xs Ive up to level 9. Andrew came about 3
bubbles closer to 22 as well, so it was a pretty
productive night. 8-)

Did you finish downloading the patch for Issue 3? I'll bet anything that's what resolved the problem.

That's what I'm thinking. The patch only took about 3 minutes to download and I did it long before logging in for the night.

Sigh. I still had 2 disconnects last night. I gotta
see if I can run my pc without my router and see if
that makes a difference.

Is anyone playing tonight? I got Bluette up
to 18 ... two more levels and she gets her
second costume!

Tonight will be the first time I'll be playing in a long time! I got a chance to play for about ten minutes on Monday and have been sick/busy ever since! This is so relaxing.

I'll be playing Val Armorr on Infinity if anyone wants to join me.

Well, Val and Star got to play some tonight,
and I got to use mutate 2 or 3 times on Val. 8-)

I died once but since I was exemping myself to
Val I was able to wipe out the debt by the end
of the mish.

I want to figure out why we had that problem with
Beauty dying, Vee. We need to play some more where
Beaut dies and gives me a chance to use mutate on
her again. ;-)

I hooked my pc directly up to my broadband
connection to see if my problem was a result
of my router or not. The results are inconclusive
so far because while I did have a disconnect, it
isn't my usual kind ...

Guess I'll have to play tomorrow. Rigth now, I'm
beat ..

Where you guys been playing these days??

Work and stuff has been real busy, and I got caught up in it all....

Hey Patch! We've missed you on Legion Nights. We still play on Virtue and Infinity and we have heroes scattered around all the other servers as well. We usually keep each other posted on this thread so if you're looking for someone to play with, just check here first.

Hey, guys.

This weekend is my birthday-- well, actually TODAY--
was my birthday. 8-)

I decided to be good to myself and among other
things, I picked up the DVD edition of COH. You
don't actually have to use the disk to get the
upgrade. What you do is go to your account under
COH-- and that's where your serial number is,
incidentally-- and enter in the new serial number,
and it upgrades your account. All there is to it.

I don't see that even my female characters will
take the filmy cape, but I think the power slide
is going to come in handy for my pre-travel power
characters. I'm not totally sure yet, but it does
seem to be noticeably faster than sprint is.

Happy Birthday Thomas!

In honor of your birthday, Beauty went on an "arresting" spree this weekend and just reached level 20! Yay!

Seymour, I know Princess is very close also so I hope we can get her to 20 quickly so both of them can get their capes.

Congrats, Vee!

Sigh. I was hoping to get Bluette up to 20 this
weekend but the troll/tsoo boss combo proved to
be just too tough to solo. I'm still workign the
debt off from that fiasco, and I'm nowhere near
19 yet... rats.

Happy Birthday, Blue!!!

I'm so jealous, Vee. Even though I've been on vacation all week, I've barely had time to do fun things for myself. It's been mostly getting ready for Christmas stuff -- shopping, decorating indoors and out, cards, finishing up the CD of bedtime stories we recorded for our nephews, etc. I enjoy doing it all, but I was hoping to have time to get Princess to 20. Maybe tomorrow while I'm waiting for the oven repair guy.

But at least most of the Christmas stuff is done. All that's left is wrapping and Christmas cards for my family here. It makes the rest of the month a lot less stressful.

Happy birthday Thomas! I can't wait to see that slide, it almost sounds worth the DVD, (along with the extra month)... remind me of that big tax bill I've got coming up.

Anyway, the final part of the Wheel of Destruction story arc is sooooo cool! I liked it, at least. I won't spoil it, but it was one of the few missions I needed every second to compete and I enjoyed all of it.

Thank you, Lyle. And yeah, the power slide is
kinda fun... in a goofy kind of way. 8-)

And yeah, the WOD story is pretty cool, isn't
it? The BPs look awfully different when you
see them outside of the fog and darkness of
DA.

I just wish you could see a picture of your
souvenirs ...

By the way, I found this excellent fansite this weekend. Watch out for spoilers, tho.

Thanks for the link Lyle. Some cool stuff there, especially in the temp power section. So, if they can do a device that lets you pass for a Freakshow why don't we have Chameleon powers yet?

I hate to spoil stuff, but I didn't get any of
those temp powers for the Wheel of Destruction
arc. Did you, Lyle? (Of course Blue already had
some of them so maybe that's why ...)

Blue has gotten a Crey Staff and Bluette got the
EMP Gauntlet once. The staff was a lot of fun if
not particularly useful ...

Did you have help on the mission? I noticed there was a temp power listed for Find Edith Fraser. Garth started that arc (it was one we worked on last week). But he didn't get the temp, someone else on the team did, either Caroline or you. So maybe someone else got yours for that arc.

Yeah, Beauty did one of Princess P's missions with her the other day and each of us got one of the temp powers. It depends on who clicks on that particular glowie.

Is anyone on tonight? I'm looking for company so let me know where you are. Look for me to be on either Virtue or Infinity but I'm game to play on any server tonight.

Maybe for the rescue missions, it was whoever got the kill shot on the mob around the victim or on the boss.

Vee, I'm on Victory playing EAP.

Is the save Edith temp power the idol? Edit gave it to me and I soloed so I'm not sure how that goes... I think someone mentioned getting it when we finished the mish... perhaps it was Garth? It goes away after three days of play, so that power might've been lost to our alt-aholism.

I can be on Victory in a bit. Look for either Kamisori or The 4th of July Kid. (Man, you want a challenge, try to come up with a name for a patriotic hero that isn't taken.)

We did the mission twice the other night and I know that it was Andrew and Tasmia who received the temp powers. I think it has to have something to do with the final kill, which I know Garth didn't get either time. Neither mission was a glowy mish so the kill has to be the trigger.

I just logged off but may log back in for another hour after a break. I just got EAP up to level 13. He, so far, is the most successful solo'er I've had in Steel. He does pretty damn good for a Dark Scrapper.

Sprock, Scott... you're going to need to
power level the rest of the historical
group. At that rate, Sam could have fire
imps by New Year's! 8-)

Oh, I got Blue up to 33 tonight. He's
one bubble in, actually.

Dang ... and I stayed up about 2 hours
later than I wanted ...

But I'm convinced now that it's my router
that'st the problem. I disconnected it before
I logged onto COH at all tonight, and I ran
from about 7:30 to just now without a single
disconnect. I don't think that's ever happened
to me before ...

Just logged in for another 30 minutes and got 3 bubbles toward 14. And that was even with dying twice and clearing the debt. I've found that I can pretty much take out anything my own level, even Leads if they are solo, without too much trouble. And I've gotten just about everything slotted with DOs right now. Including his Hasten which only has about 1 minute of downtime. It really helps. Next up, at 14, is Super Speed. EAP will be my first character to reach it.

And Caroline says she wants to create a Lenore character and have me powerlevel her.

Oh, that reminds me. Do we have an SG for the historical group yet? If not I'll form it if you guys will give me a name and color/symbol choices.

Sorry I missed your message last night Scott.

Seymour found me on Infinity just after I posted and we worked on leveling Princess. She's now a 20 (grats Princess!) and she and Beauty will likely do their cape missions tonight.

As far as the historical heroes, we don't have an SG set up yet. You're probably the first one able to create one. How about "A Blast From The Past"

How do you guys get all this time to play?

Heh.

She should be Virginia, Poe's wife. I don't know
what she actually looked like, but I always kind
of picture her as being the first goth ...

Man, I gotta get Star up to 20 so he can get
HIS cape ...


Bluette is within a hairsbreadth of 19, though,
and I think I'd be able to make it to 20 for her
a lot faster than I can Star. I hate not being
able to solo Star.

Argh, sorry I missed you, Scott.

Did a really buggy mission late last night with Jade... the thugs started... well, best word I can think of is rubberbanding while my powers went wonky (I'd click and nothing would happen except that the button would recharge once I clicked on another button). I sent a bug report then the game crashed. Ah, well. Also did a mish with Prism... I think he's working on two storylines right now, the Vaz disease and the Sky Raiders' one.

I got Captian Hottie up to level 25 sunday and did the Sister Psyche TF. It's an interesting TF, but I recommend having a couple fast travellers on the team -- one as leader and one as gopher. SP has a few errand missions and with those you might as well send off a gopher while the leader stays with SP to pick up the next mission as soon as the errand is done.

The story arcs get interesting at the higher levels, definately. I can't imagine getting a character up in levels by doing the street grind.

I don't think it was just the mission Lyle. Caroline was having issues last night too. CoH wouldn't even let her log off at one time and she couldn't even move. I think they may have been doing some work on the servers.

I really wish they wouldn't make it so you had to do the story arcs or team up to enjoy the higher levels. I kinda enjoy playing by myself at times, just to work out stress. There are just times that putting up with all the interacting, and not all game related, in a team is just too much for this loner.

So far, Captain Hottie has only had to do a little bit of teaming... there was one mish that required a team (tandem glowy) and in Task Forces, which is kinda the point. I suspect there's a definate Achetype question there... my Fire/Dev blaster is fine for fun and easy soloing but my regen scrapper just couldn't take down electric eel on their own, due to his electricity field.

A lot of the story arcs can be done solo if you
don't have the problems that I normally have. I
did a bunch of the episodes myself. If you like
to be alone, it's a good way to do it: once
you're in a mish you don't get asked to team. 8-)

Personally, Blue needs a healer with him most of
the time I think. I don't have any inherent
healing powers of my own, and you can only carry
so many greens. I wish that my secondary would
include the healing flames that a fire tank has,
or that I had room for another pool power so I
could take the medical devices path.

Oh, I picked up the Adamant-- 1 million points
of damage!-- badge last night. 8-)

Seymour, Beauty is inside the memorial. She's got everything cleared out execpt for the 3 Lost (2 minions and 1 Anathema) around the capsule and one other Anathem who is patroling near them. She's patiently waiting for Princess & hear Clear Mind and heals in order to take on this last group!

Good luck, guys.

I'd offer to help, but probably adding a 3rd
body would cause you more trouble than benefit.

I have been pretty good with soloing myself. I just took Shadowkeeper through the Frostfire mission.

I've also been playing Danny Blaine alot too...

Two more bubbles for 14 for EAP. Why are the last ones always the toughest to get?

And I got 'em! Finally got a Super-Speed character.

Congrats, Buddy!

Wow, congrats, Scott! I have to get Mahatma Ghandi to stop his hunger strike and get him back fighting bad guys!

We met a new Legion fan tonight. Actually, Vee met him. He had a Lar Gand character up to lvl 14 and had already formed an SG called Legion of Super Heroes. Since he was the only member, he quit his and joined ours. He has a really neat costume and seemed pretty excied to find us! hopefully, h'll find his way here. In case he does -

WELCOME TO LEGION WORLD, LAR!!!!


Don't lose too much sleep exploring the site!


As far as soloing goes, most of my characters can do it without a problem. The controllers are pretty much useless on their own once you pass lvl 10. I also have to team Mahtma Ghandi up whenever i play, but that's because I've only given him one attack power so far. As I mentioned before Blok was able to solo most of his Positron TF, and Val just finished his first story arc by himself.

What's the level for Synapse again? Is it 15-20
or 16-21?

I think that the 18 SO accuracy I put in Star's
GDF does help hold baddies who are higher than
he is, so I won't be totally useless against the
level 20 clocks if we should decide to do it before
I'm 20 ...

Can you tell I'm anxious to kick Clockwork nass
again? 8-)

15-21 is the range for Synapse just lke Positron is 10-16. I would like to do Synapse with Beauty and the Infinity Team 1 but I'd also like to get Cosmic Rokk or Quis on Virtue through Positron and Invisible Lyle or Cos or E Lad Jan through Positron on Infinity.

And then there's Sister Psyche for Mystical Mysa and Condo....

What I would LOVE to do on Legion Night this week if we can get at least 8 of us together is the Cavern of Transcendence Trial in the Hollows. I did it with Condo just before issue 2 (of course, I never got that badge just like I never got the Positron badge) and it was pretty neat. I think the Cavern Trial is level 10+ so just about any of our chars should be able to participate.

BTW, the Legion fan we met last night as Lar Gand on Infinity registered here on LW as Longevity Lad late last night. I started a Welcome thread for him on Mission Monitor Board and sent him a PM pointing him to this thread so be sure to look for him ans say "Hi" when you see him.

Yea! Congrats, Scott, I look forward to hearing your reactions to Super Speed. I see its plusses and minuses against flight, tho I haven't decided which factors would make me choose one travel power over another... right now I mostly use RP rationale (Mr B, a regen scrapper who has cybernetic implants that speed up his metabolism, making him heal faster will be a speedster, other scrappers will end up with super jump and my mysterious stranger character will get TP, so that he can appear out of nowhere)

I should do some more with Prism first but Sister Psyche was an interesting TF... I'd like to try it with a controller.

However, the Wheel of Destruction story arc is much cooler. We should run through that, too.

Condo did the Cavern of Transcendence before issue 2?

On Infi, I've got Bolt of Blue going through the CoT missions... he's got Chillflare next.

Quote

BTW, the Legion fan we met last night as Lar Gand on Infinity registered here on LW as Longevity Lad late last night. I started a Welcome thread for him on Mission Monitor Board and sent him a PM pointing him to this thread so be sure to look for him ans say "Hi" when you see him.

So noted.

quote:What I would LOVE to do on Legion Night this week if we can get at least 8 of us together is the Cavern of Transcendence Trial in the Hollows. I did it with Condo just before issue 2 (of course, I never got that badge just like I never got the Positron badge) and it was pretty neat. I think the Cavern Trial is level 10+ so just about any of our chars should be able to participate.

Condo did the Cavern of Transcendence before issue 2?

My bad! Now that i think of it it was right after Issue 2 while they were having al sorts of problems with badges not being awarded properly (Condo did Positron just before Issue 2)

BTW, Beauty & Princess earned their capes last night and I must say they both look awesome in them and in their second outfits. Unfortunately, we forgot to take pictures last night!

Hmm, I just noticed a tidbit on the boards that the Dr Vaz mission looks really cool after update 3. Prism is going through that story arc, I should save that mission for us... has the L of Virtue faces Dr V?

(BTW, if we're all teamed when I take the Patient Zero mission only I get the disease, right?)

Grem really wants to get Super Kara up to 18
so she can pick up invincibility, so she'd
prolly be up for doing Positron. I don't know
when she'd have time-- she works for
a retailer and she's getting a lot of hours
right now.

I wouldn't mind doing it with Brin, but he's
not even a 7 yet ... I'm going to need to spend
time on him to get him up to a point where I can
do it with him ... though he's low enough that
I could probably build up a new character for
it as well and not take much longer.

Maybe I should make a fire/empathy controller
... I probably wouldn't have clear mind by the
time we did Posi though ...

On Virtue, I have XS Ive and I'd really like to
do the TF with her, but I still need to get speed
boost and a travel power for her... not to mention get past 9. 8-)

I'm going to toss this out as an idea for you
guys to consider: since we have some higher
levle characers on both Infinity and Virtue,
we could possibly see about leveling up our
lower characters high enough for the TF via
power leveling. Even with the AFK thing going
on, it's still possible ... just not as easy as
it was before ... and could be rather boring as
well.

Basically, what we would need to do is take two
of our higher level alts and one of the lower
level ones. One of the higher alts would stand by
the lower alt in sk range while the other higher
alt would then go out and kill baddies until we
got the lower alt leveled enough to do Posi.

If we don't want to do that, then I think we
need to have a lower alt Legion night and work
on them to get them closer to Positron range.


Vee, which server would you want to do the Trial
on?

I think that Pete, Mysa, and Grev faced him,
but Andrew hasn't.

If I recall right, the Patient Zero mish comes in
AFTER you get infected. Blue soloed the entire
arc up unitl the Patient Zero mish, so I had the
ZD before anyone joined me on a team effort. I'm
still angry about that mish ... I wound up with
about 20k of debt for poor Blue ...



I don't see how ANYONE could solo that mish after
being infected...

Doc's finished the Patient Zero Mission, but still has the Dr. Vahz mish to finish. He did help Mysa with a couple of weeks ago though.

I can save the mish too, in case anyone can't catch Prism's.

Sign me up for Power Leveling! Doc's at 17th currently, and I need to get him caught up.

Where are we playing tonight?

Super Kara and Star are on Infinity if anyone
wants to join us.

I think Captain Hottie got through the mission with the disease but he's a powerhouse and it was a challenge.

Invisible Lyle is on Infinity with Tinya Phantom now. Star became Brin Londo and Kara has switched to an alternate identity as well so if anyone wants to join us look for us there

Ack..! I keep getting disconnected! Very Frustrating... be back on in a sec guys.

What the hell are they thinking at NCSoft? They advertise a teaser trailer, exclusive at IGN, showcasing issue #3. But you can't view it unless you are an IGN Insider which cost at the least $7.95. So, as paying players we have to pay again to view a trailer for the game we are paying for. That is just wrong.

Greed man.. pure Greed.

Anyone interested in starting a 'Re-Imagined' Legion team on CoH? Maybe not Waids.. but our own?

Is there anything in issue 3 that's not
already on the test server?

Hmmmmm.....think of the possibilities!

Last year or so I started an e-mail
RPG Legion game based on the Smallville
TV series. Set 20 years or so after the
TV show, the Legion is formed when Lex
Luthor is saved from assassins during
the Smallville High Graduation night
by Garth Randall, Rock King, and Imra
Arden. Tanya Watson got her phase
powers by being tatooed with the ink
that was used in the phantom robbers
episode, and Jonah Brooks was the son
of Clark Kent and Jessie Brooks, the
girl from the first Red K episode ...

That's an interesting concept Blue.

I've been working on a fanfic for some time now about an alternate Legion on Earth X, a world where heroes don't exist in that time although metahumans do. It's all a plot of the Time Trapper, Universo & Glorith to insure that they never have to deal with a Legion like they have in other realities.

However Rond, the son of Universo and Glorith (Time Trapper's sister) sets out to oppose them by providing the catalyst the world needs for heroes to appear. That catalyst is Justin Drew, son of Mort and Annie, a husband and wife sci/engineering team. Rond transports Justin to Earth X from Earth Prime (our world) to replace that world's Justin and serve as the catalyst for the age of heroes and the founder of the Legion.

On Earth X, Justin turns out to be one of the most powerful, though untrained, mages in that reality (hint: pay close attention to his parents' names). His parents (and alternate self although no one but his parents knew he was with them instead of at school) have died in a mysterious space craft explosion and Justin-1 takes over Justin-X's place and assumes control of Drew Labs & Drew Industries. He goes on to use them as a means to fund the Super Legion which he and Rond set out to create.

Not that I'm aware of. But I don't know many people who have been able to spot the squid or ghost ship yet.

Vee, I love your idea. Is that something you've already put up here on LW or are you still working on it? I don't visit Bits very much. Don't have the time to get lost in all the great storytelling.

Played EAP for a couple of hours last night. Worked through all of one contact's missions and got 5 1/2 bubbles towards 15. If I remember the next time I log in I'll start up our SG.

Scott, it' not done yet so I haven't posted it. I'll let you know when I do. There will be a PG version here and a slash version over on my Earth-X.com/LegionPics/LegionGuys website(s)

I call dibs on Lyle re-imagined as a suave, seductive spy!

Speaking of fanfic, one bit I heard about and found interesting but never found and read was a Legion fanfic set in a universe where the Legion was founded not by Garth, Imra and Rokk but Val, Jekkie and... uhm, either Andrew or Nemisis Kid.

Where are we doing Legion Night (tonight) this week?

Shall we do Virtue or Infinity? I've been on Infinity pretty much every night this week so I wouldn't mind playing on Virtue tonight but I'm up for either. Or we could play with our "Forgotten Legion" on Protector (haven't done that in ages!)

If we do play on Virtue shall we use our A team Legionniares or do we want to play some of our B Teamers. They've also been ignored for a long time. We did that last night on Infinity and we had a blast.

Got Bluette up to 20 last night and picked up
cloaking device. The stealth effect on that is
unlike anything I've seen in a long time ... I
slotted it with a defense buff to begin wtih
because I knew I was going to have to do the
costume mish solo, and I didn't know how many
baddies I'd be facing when I stepped outside
the door.

I don't know now if the stealth helped or if my
ambush got intercepted because I waited for what
seemed like a full minute without the baddies
showing, so I attacked some nearby 15 tsoo, and
then had about 5 level 20s attack me ... a yellow
ink man, and some enforcers. No sorcerer or
ancestor spirit.

The main problem I ran into is that fighting with
the cloak on is a monstrous endurance drain. I
remmber that when I first got stealth for Blue I
couldn't fly too far at all with him before I'd
run out of endurance. Bluette is an endurance hog
anyway, so i was running out of juice in no time
flat. I can pick up stamina at 22 so that's going
to help, but I think I'm going to need at least
one endurance reduction in there until I get
stamina fully slotted.

Reserve Your Global Chat Name!

I'm debating if I want to stay CrocoLyle or be my usual LyleLyle

And here are 3 shots of Bluette now: front, back, and invisable:

As far as a re-imagined Legion, I'm definitely up for that! What server are we invading for that? Since Caroline and Blue already have sorta re-imagined Legionnaires (Silver Chalice & Dox 5.1) on Protector we could do it there. I'm the only one that seems to have a space problem on Protector (based on the most current rosters on the other thread) but there are a couple of chars I could retire to make way for the members of the re-imagined Super Legion.

My board handle is Varalent so I'll just leave it as is until I can change it live. Then I'll probably go to Vee.

I really do want to get Star up to 20 sometime
soon so I can get him his costume and cape: I
have the perfect combo planned. 8-)

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind playing the
lower characters on Virtue either. I got Xs Ive
up to 9 the last time we played her, and I
wouldn't mind working on her some more.

If we play on Protector, I'm going to play
Colorific. Vee can help me get him personal
invisibility! 8-)

Bluette looks great Blue! Grats on getting her to 20!

RE: Global Chat. My board name is already Lightning_Lad so I don't think I'll change it. Unless I go to my latest favorite instead.

I don't know about playing tonight. I'm exhausted and just spent $300 have our car brakes replaced. I may just sit this one out and veg with the TV.

Actually I don't like the underscore so I went ahead and changed over to GarthRanzz for my board name.

Thanks, Vee. The cape mish is what I'm dreading
now. I know that I need to do it while she's
not very high, but I don't relish going in there
alone ... I may have to see if I can have a higher
up friend help me. I don't really care about the
XP that much ... though it'd be nice to get it...
I just want her to have a cape!

Wish I could help you Blue but my highest on Triumph is Junior and he's only a level 10. What you really need along is an empathy defender with clear mind and heal. I'm convinced that all it really takes is a good healer and a reasonable snipe to pull individuals out to you. Taking it slow and using my "Snipe, Run, and Hover" technique works perfectly.

And I would argue against a higher up. I think that just gets you bigger mobs to deal with. Find a level 20-21 healer to go with you.

I don't know any level 20 something healers
on Triumph that I'd trust, unfortunately. I
can't really exemp Grem's controller down
that far, I think, because I don't think she'd
picked up clear mind by then ...

I may try to solo it once just to see what
happens. Were you able to fight your way to
the chamber without the capsule being
destroyed? The first time I tried it, we
had the capsule get destroyed on us before
we got there. If Bluette's cloaking device
was good enough I'd be able to get past the
baddies and get into the time capsule chamber
itself, but I don't think it's as good as
superior invisibility by a long shot.