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Re: Legion Cancelled with # 23
jdpinball #770906 05/13/13 11:01 PM
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Darkseid's curse is fulfilled once more! Levitz NEVER should have written that story.


...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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jdpinball #770907 05/13/13 11:07 PM
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On a more serious note, it's got to be harder than ever to write a book about the future of the DC universe when it's entire history has been wiped away and much of the newly revealed stuff makes no sense at all. Justice Legion will have the same problem, unless they actively tie in to what's happening in the current day books. But that didn't help demon nights or Stormwatch much.


...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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jdpinball #770909 05/13/13 11:15 PM
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Well as the solicit says:

"... and the future of the DCU is changed in a way you’ll never expect!"

Except that if the new Legion series is yet-another-further-still reboot, how does anything they do matter in the future stories?

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I think this may be just the push I needed to stop buying comics completely.


I used to feel that the Legion being cancelled would be what would do it for me as well. But that was before I discovered the best comics were mostly published outside the Big Two and that many of those were outside the superhero genre.

But I can see where you're coming from, Rocks.

I'm in the same boat. There were times when LSH was the only book I was buying, but there's enough good stuff coming out from every corner of the comic world right now to keep me going.

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Not sure how I feel about this really which is the first time that has happened with a Legion cancellation. Nonplussed is probably the most accurate term.

If Justice Legion is by Giffen/Dematties/Maguire as Bleeding Cool is trying to infer it may be ok as Maguire as always good and both writers have turned out excellent Legion stories in the past.

I just hope they give it some time to rest before relaunching.

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I've always been DC-only with a very few exceptions. Since the "New 52" (blecch!), I find I just don't care as much. The comics I love (mainly JSA and LSH) are either gone or going. Earth 2 is interesting, but it's not JSA. Legion has been disappointing. At various times in my life, I've taken breaks from comics. Maybe it's time for another. I'll stay on LW, of course.


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Rockhopper Lad #770943 05/14/13 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockhopper Lad
I've always been DC-only with a very few exceptions. Since the "New 52" (blecch!), I find I just don't care as much. The comics I love (mainly JSA and LSH) are either gone or going. Earth 2 is interesting, but it's not JSA. Legion has been disappointing. At various times in my life, I've taken breaks from comics. Maybe it's time for another. I'll stay on LW, of course.


Agreed. I'm a Legion fan through and through so I'll be on Legion World, but I think I may be hitting the back issue bins for a while instead of purchasing anything new. To me, there's really nothing of interest that i'd be willing to spend four bucks on these days.

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jdpinball #770947 05/14/13 10:46 AM
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I humbly recommend the two pronged approach of:

Re-reading the Legion through the Archives!

Trying out some of the utterly fantastic Image and other creator-owned comics that are providing the comic book industry with a modern Renaissance while DC crumbles (and Marvel is successfully piggybacking on it).

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Originally Posted by Conjure Lass
Originally Posted by Rockhopper Lad
I've always been DC-only with a very few exceptions. Since the "New 52" (blecch!), I find I just don't care as much. The comics I love (mainly JSA and LSH) are either gone or going. Earth 2 is interesting, but it's not JSA. Legion has been disappointing. At various times in my life, I've taken breaks from comics. Maybe it's time for another. I'll stay on LW, of course.


Agreed. I'm a Legion fan through and through so I'll be on Legion World, but I think I may be hitting the back issue bins for a while instead of purchasing anything new. To me, there's really nothing of interest that i'd be willing to spend four bucks on these days.


I with you on this. there really is nothing about comics these days that's keeping my attention.

and i do hope they give the legion a rest and not another instant reboot!


read the adventures of the Reboot Legion!

http://www.legionworld.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001232
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Sadder more for what this represents for the property and the message it sends than for the loss of this particular iteration of the title.

Here's hoping the next team does a better job.

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Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
I humbly recommend the two pronged approach of:

Re-reading the Legion through the Archives!

Trying out some of the utterly fantastic Image and other creator-owned comics that are providing the comic book industry with a modern Renaissance while DC crumbles (and Marvel is successfully piggybacking on it).


I agree with Cobie! It's really a pretty awesome period for comics, with tons of groovy stuff like Atomic Robo, Bandette, and IDW's Popeye series! Not to mention groovy stuff from Image!

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Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
I humbly recommend the two pronged approach of:

Re-reading the Legion through the Archives!

Trying out some of the utterly fantastic Image and other creator-owned comics that are providing the comic book industry with a modern Renaissance while DC crumbles (and Marvel is successfully piggybacking on it).



I agree with Cobie! It's really a pretty awesome period for comics, with tons of groovy stuff like Atomic Robo, Bandette, and IDW's Popeye series! Not to mention groovy stuff from Image!


*sigh* And it's been far, FAR too long since the Legion was anything approaching "groovy". frown


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jdpinball #771004 05/14/13 09:12 PM
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Here's Paul Levitz's response to the Legion's cancellation as published by Bleeding Cool:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/14/dc/

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Thanks for sharing. Lots of interesting tweets from Mark Waid there!

(and Phil Jimenez is love)

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I knew there was a reason why I liked Waid. Those tweets were great.


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Waid is funny.

Me however, I think this cancellation comes just in time for the PR push at the next comicon to "announce" Justice Legion as a new book.

This marketing stuff sure is tiring. constant repackaging.

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and for the record ... I never thought it was that difficult to follow the Legion with 25 heroes. Even without an introductory title page or those labels they do now with the name and power set.

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Oh, Waid is hilarious!

"Because it's not named the 'Small Band of Super-Heroes,' ffs."

Oh, oh, we can't possibly make a team book / show with a team / cast of more than the absolutely-required-by-formula five-to-seven members! Nevermind that other people did so successfully for forty odd years before that marketing formula was invented...



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jdpinball #771057 05/15/13 10:09 AM
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I'm not what I'm going to do after LSH #23. I've said before that the Legion is the reason that I collect comic books. My pull list is down to just the Legion, the Super titles, Earth 2 & Worlds' Finest. The only one that I'm really enjoying is Worlds' Finest. I find myself not liking anything about modern comic book story telling. I'd even like to see them go back to newsprint on the interior pages.

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jdpinball #771336 05/18/13 10:30 AM
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Indeed, LW, thanks for sharing the farewell message from Paul Levitz, and especially the tweets within from Mark Waid.

I didn't much care for many of the changes Mark made in the 3-boot, but this definitely shows he was a Legion fan, and I would echo all of his sentiments time 100.

I haven't had time to keep up with all the news lately ... can someone post a link and/or summarize what "Justice LEgion" is supposed to entail? If it's not just another name for the LSH in the 31st century, ... well then it's small consolation.

As I've already whined about in probably a less appropriate thread, this REALLY feels like an end that's final, as I don't really see a way back. Too many re-boots have failed, they won't do that again. And if they pick up where they left off ... what would be the impetus for starting where they left off? And where would they start? And could they even start in a way that new readers would know what was going on?

Maybe a spinoff of the Legion they are showing now in the Smallville book? (in which Braniac 5 is inexplicably caucasian! grumble.)... I don't know.

OR, perhaps it is an interesting parallel to the past that we've been getting Legion back-ups in Superman/Action ... perhaps they will rise form the ashes as they did in the early 70s?

I desperately hope so, but breaths are not being withheld.





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Re: Legion Cancelled with # 23
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Maybe a spinoff of the Legion they are showing now in the Smallville book? (in which Braniac 5 is inexplicably caucasian! grumble.)...

It's a spinoff of Smallville the TV show, where they didn't "do" bodypaint (James Marsters played B5 there, and he wasn't green).


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Marsters was B1 (a machine, ergo color irrelevant), not B5 (presumably a Coluan). We never got to see B5, although he was mentioned.


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http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Brainiac#Season_Ten

[Besides, the point is that they're keeping designs to a level that might have appeared on the TV show. Body-paint isn't something they did, ergo he couldn't be green ANYWAY.]


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I stopped reading over a year ago. I mentioned in AFOB's old thread why I considered the whole thing a lost cause, and it has little to do with the talents of the individual creators involved.

Sorry, but mainstream comics in general are just not a great entertainment value when I have little money. "Entertainment" should not constantly frustrate and confuse a person while leaving them broke... unless they're a Cubs fan or something. Then apparently it's normal. tongue

I wish everyone involved good luck in their future projects.

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Originally Posted by Reboot
http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Brainiac#Season_Ten

[Besides, the point is that they're keeping designs to a level that might have appeared on the TV show. Body-paint isn't something they did, ergo he couldn't be green ANYWAY.]

I stand corrected!
Wow, I watched that show religiously, yet forgot that he re-appeared later as B5. I must be getting old!

Oh well, 'least now I feel better about the non-green-ness in the comic. Thanks!


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