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#724873 - 03/05/06 05:39 PM Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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The alternative is too terrible to contemplate.

#724874 - 03/05/06 05:51 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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are they made from real girl scouts?


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#724875 - 03/05/06 06:42 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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If it wasn't for girl scout cookies there'd be Soviet tanks marching right through Times Square!

#724876 - 03/05/06 07:07 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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I once used girl scout cookies to build a dam which saved a small South American village from being flooded!

#724877 - 03/05/06 07:46 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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I was a girl scout.

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Okay, fine, I'll admit it. I'm still a girl scout. They give you this offer, when you turn eighteen, to sign up for a lifetime membership thingy and I'm a just a sucker like that.

But none of ya are gonna get your hands on my cookies! (I saw you thinking it Cobie. You too Tamper. And Kent. Maybe EDE too. Who knows when he'll have more dams to fill...?)

#724878 - 03/05/06 08:10 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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Why Cali dear do you think I would want your cookies?

Bah Silly Americans, tease Lord Baden Powell said explicitly that female members of the scouting movement are Girl Guides. I should know I was a boy scout.

So for the record Girl Guide Cookies.

#724879 - 03/05/06 08:18 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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nope.

Girl Scouts are a completely separate entity from Boy Scouts. nice try.

Lord Baden Powell may have founded Boy Scouting, but Mohammed or Moses he ain't.


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#724880 - 03/05/06 08:23 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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#724881 - 03/05/06 08:34 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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Nope, sorry Shakespere. The Girl Scouts of America seem to be a founding member of the World Association of Girl Guides and Scouts (WAGGGS).

Baden-Powell's role in the founding of this organization is discussed here in this Wikipedia article. The story is that Lord Baden-Powell, Victorian male chauvanist that he was, couldn't bear to call female members of the movement 'scouts'

Look wikipedia even redirects \'girl scout\' to the correct name

Girl Scouts of America entry at WAGGGS

#724882 - 03/05/06 08:35 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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I ran into some really aggressive girl scout moms this afternoon at Safeway. They practically accused me of being un-American for not wanting to buy any of their kids' cookies. Little did they know ....

#724883 - 03/05/06 08:51 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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Less chatting, more buying.

#724884 - 03/05/06 10:11 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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i like teh thin mints but my friends bought me two boxes of samoas (my favs) because i have a penchant for devouring them. i had a box yesterday and a box today now i am out of samoas... smile

#724885 - 03/06/06 01:40 AM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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Don't know about Girl Scout cookies, but Girl Guide cookies are a force to be reckoned with. I don't think those things even break down in a hot compost bin. But I still buy them to support the grimy-faced little urchins in their quest for knitting badges.


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#724886 - 03/06/06 04:26 AM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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But I still buy them to support the grimy-faced little urchins in their quest for knitting badges.
lol lol lol lol

Although you get Guides and Brownies around here I've never known them to go around selling cookies.

There's a brilliant Johnny Bravo episode that i once memorised parts of to impress my eldest daughter, where Johnnys neighbour is trying to sell him cookies, and it's all based on Dr Seusses "Green Eggs and Ham", which we were reading to her at about that time.

Unfortunately I can't remember more than the odd line now.

I will not buy your peanut swirls,
I will not buy them little girl!

Superb stuff.

Maahma!!


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#724887 - 03/06/06 07:41 AM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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Tamper, my buddy, your arguement seems solely based on Lord Baden-Powell having some proprietary rights to the name "scouts."

Isn't so.

Yes, he may have named 'Girl Guides,' with GG origins in the UK and Inda, but Girl Scouts USA formed independently his his Lordship or any Boy Scouts organization in 1912 - six years before WAGGGS (the name of which, incidentlally, includes Girl Guides AND Girls Scouts).

Also, while Wikipedia tends to be accurate on sciences and many other things, do keep in mind that it's a work that practically anyone can add things to - and as such, some of its credibility can be questioned. As a joke, someone once added a fictitious link to a pal's bio entry, linking him to the JFK assassination.


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#724888 - 03/06/06 08:12 AM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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The GSA are clearly founded on the principles of the worldwide scouting movement. Even if they formed independently, all members of the worldwide federations of boy and girl scouting subscribe to Lord B-P's core philosophy which was very much a product of his times.

The story the Wiki article glosses over is that his Lordship came to America on an inspection of the scouting movement some time betwen 1912 and 1918 and saw Girl Scout troups. To that point, he had not considered training girls in the same way as boys. He liked idea but his Victorian chauvanism caused him not to vet the name Girl Scout when he asked his sister to organize in Britain.

As to whether 'Boy Scouts' and 'Girl Scouts' are proprietary names, I invite you to try to form troups, call yourself "US Scouts Association" advertise and see if the US scouting movement refrains from legal action.

#724889 - 03/06/06 08:46 AM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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'Boy Scouts' and 'Girl Scouts' are indeed proprietary names - held by completely separate entities, similar but not exactly as the term "Super-hero" is co-owned by Marvel and DC - two separate companies with no jurisdiction over each other.

Just as Marvel/Timely was initially copying National/DC's move by printong comics, that doesn't make Marvel a subsidiary of DC, nor does it mean Marvel automatically follows everything DC does or says.

So while Lord Baden-Powell may have been the defining pioneer, simply because HE chose the term 'girl guides' does not automatically make it law of the land. If so, WAGGGS would have omited the GS and just be WAGG.

'Scout' all by itself is NOT proprietary - there have been autos named 'Scout' in recent times. If one tried to start a youth org called, say, "Legion Scouts," with similar scouting activity, yes, one would get sued - the argument of causing 'confusion in the marketplace' between existing and new 'brands' traking precedence. But that was not the case in 1912 - Baden-Powell's outfit consisted of "Boy Scouts" and "Girl Guides;" as you point out, his Lordship frowned on "girls scouts." BUT the precedent either did not exist, or was not challenged, and GSA stands as it always have been - separate and independent.

YES, they may share some principles, just as the Amish (or any protestant or even Orhodox Church) may share with Catholics, but that doesn't place them under Rome's authority, or all of its rules.


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#724890 - 03/06/06 08:56 AM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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BTW, Tamper, it's been a fun debate! thanks!


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#724891 - 03/06/06 01:38 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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I have long assumed that a large number of the members of this board can quote chapter and verse of Lord Baden-Powells most famous work "Scouting For Boys".


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#724892 - 03/06/06 02:01 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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I much prefer "Scouting for Girls".

Chapter 5 - Choosing your Stomping Grounds
The restaurant/cafe at upscale department stores staffed with personal shoppers is an example of the prime habitat for the subtypes's we're looking for.

Be sure to camoflauge yourself amongst the crowd of diletente children of the idle rich, by dressing as they dress and arriving in a chauffered car service auto.

#724893 - 03/06/06 02:10 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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Chapter 5 - Choosing your Stomping Grounds
The restaurant/cafe at upscale department stores staffed with personal shoppers is an example of the prime habitat for the subtypes's we're looking for.
Spiffany's sells Girl Scout cookies??


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#724894 - 03/06/06 05:24 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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diletente
Dilettentes are what debutantes take on camping trips!

#724895 - 03/06/06 06:03 PM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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Which is why I must dress disguise myself as a dilettente to snare a debutante.

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#724897 - 03/07/06 01:30 AM Re: Buy Girl Scout cookies. Or else.  
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I tossed my cookies! I mean that is to say I shared them in class today. I boughtta box of samoas and a box of thin mints. Are any of the other ones good? I'm afraid to deviate from what I know.

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