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Eeek! Just doing it now!

EDIT: Tough round

Yup, A toughie. Since we're down to just eight, here's my brief thoughts on each.

Catwoman - A jewel thief who would attempt the riskiest of robberies. Would become a break out character in later ages.
Cavalier - A criminal with a Muskateer gimmick, who became easily beatable even in a joke JLA story.
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) - A malleable horror, scarier than the original (with a worse origin) but replicated in other "monster" characters.
Deadshot - A distinctive villain with roots in Waynes social class. But his break out came in Suicide Squad and hasn't been topped anywhere near a Bat-title.
Joker (Silver Age) - The chaos against the order Batman looks to put into place. When written well, he's a good character, interchangeable with other Bat-Villains when done poorly, and grim without a reason when written very poorly.
Man-Bat - A tormented duality along more traditional lines than Two-Face. Langstrom has been treated poorly in other books.
Nocturna - An alabaster skinned femme fatale figure who I remember best in the lightning streaked crimson skies of the Crisis.
Talia Al Ghul - Although tied to Bats through a romance/ lineage story she is also a capable criminal mastermind, with a global scale, in her own right.

Now some points:-

Catwoman (Golden Age) 50
Cavalier 5
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) 5
Deadshot 30
Joker (Silver Age) 50
Man-Bat 5
Nocturna 15
Talia Al Ghul 5

Here are the results:

Catwoman (Golden Age) 210 100%
Talia Al Ghul 195 93%
Deadshot 170 80%
Nocturna 160 76%
Cavalier 155 74%
Man-Bat 150 71%

Eliminated this Round:

Joker (Silver Age) 135 64%
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) 100 48%

We have six characters left. After the next round, we will have a Wild Card Round.

Slight Change to the scale this round to take in account of the diminishing number of characters.

6 <- Lowest you can give a character
12
18
24
30
36
42
48
54
60 <- Highest you can give a character

Catwoman (Golden Age)
Deadshot
Cavalier
Nocturna
Man-Bat
Talia Al Ghul

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Catwoman (Golden Age) 60
Deadshot 30
Cavalier 6
Nocturna 6
Man-Bat 6
Talia Al Ghul 54

Wow. Hard to imagine the Joker not being in the final rounds (Wildcard excepting)

Wow
that's unexpected
While I'm not the biggest Joker fan, I too thought he'd be at the end

Catwoman (Golden Age) 54
Deadshot 60
Cavalier 36
Nocturna 6
Man-Bat 24
Talia Al Ghul 48

When Emily first mentioned that there would be a Wildcard round, I was struggling to think who I'd go for. Now there are a few contenders.

Incidentally, I'd love to hear more about what the remaining characters mean to those taking part.

Oops! Missed a round.

Catwoman (Golden Age) - 60
Deadshot - 30
Cavalier - 40
Nocturna - 10
Man-Bat - 50
Talia Al Ghul - 20

Catwoman (Golden Age) - She's old Hollywood to me. Glamourous dresses, well-dressed henchmen. A martini in one hand and a gun in the other. I enjoyed her appearances in Batman and, later on, when she would make appearances in All-Star Squadron or other such books.

Deadshot - Cool visuals, disturbed individual. Sure, he's a gun nut. Sure, he's not the most successful of Bat villains (at least when dealing with the Bat). Floyd Lawson is, for me, one of the only Bat villains that I would expect to find in my local bar, enjoying a beer with the rest of us. Watching his growth through Suicide Squad/Secret 6 has further cemented him in my cosmology of cool.

Cavalier - He's a peer of Kite Man, for me. I enjoy the corniness. Of course, he gets gay points from me.

Nocturna - meh. I never liked her or her Night Stalker partner

Man-Bat - I always thought of him as a hero. I love his visual, his potential. I never liked him as a villain.

Talia Al Ghul - She grew from a girlfriend to a formidable foe. I enjoy her constantly expanding role in DC - appearances in Superman and the JLA.

Wow, I always thought the Joker was too iconic to not last until the end.

Catwoman (Golden Age) - 60
Deadshot - 6
Cavalier - 30
Nocturna - 30
Man-Bat - 6
Talia Al Ghul - 60

Catwoman (Golden Age)...6
Deadshot...6
Cavalier...60
Nocturna...60
Man-Bat...60
Talia Al Ghul...6

Catwoman (Golden Age) 30
Deadshot 60
Cavalier 6
Nocturna 12
Man-Bat 60
Talia Al Ghul 42

Catwoman (Golden Age) 60
Deadshot 60
Cavalier 6
Nocturna 60
Man-Bat 30
Talia Al Ghul 60

The results:

Catwoman (Golden Age) 320 100%
Talia Al Ghul 290 91%
Deadshot 252 79%
Man-Bat 236 74%

Eliminated this Round:
Nocturna 184 58%
Cavalier 183 57%

Wild Card Round Starts Now

1. You have 48 hours to pick one of the eliminated characters and nominate them as your Wild Card Pick.
2. In the event we have more characters needed to get even numbers than players, I will fill the gap with results from the Random Generator.
3. Read all the posts above yours until this post to ensure that your pick is not already taken. Then please pick another chatacter and submit that one for your vote.

List of everyone Eliminated:

Abattoir- Eliminated Round 1
Amygdala- Eliminated Round 1
Anarky- Top 50
Bane- Eliminated Round 3
Black Mask- Top 20
Black Spider I- Top 20
Black Spider II- Eliminated Round 1
Blockbuster I- Top 50
Blockbuster II- Eliminated Round 2
Calendar Man (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 2
Calendar Man (Silver Age)- Top 50
Captain Stingaree- Eliminated Round 3
Carmine Falcone- Eliminated Round 2
Catman (Pre-New 52)- Top 50
Catman (Silver Age)- Top 50
Catwoman (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Catwoman (Silver Age)- Top 20
Cavalier- Top 6
Charaxes- Eliminated Round 2
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age)- Top 50
Clayface I (Karlo) (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age)- Top 20
Clayface III (Payne) (Bronze Age)- Eliminated Round 4
Clayface IV (Fuller) (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Cluemaster- Top 50
Condiment King- Eliminated Round 2
Copperhead- Top 20
Cornelius Stirk- Eliminated Round 1
Crazy Quilt- Top 50
Crime Doctor- Top 50
David Cain- Eliminated Round 4
Dr. Death- Eliminated Round 4
Dr. Double X- Eliminated Round 4
Dr. Hurt- Eliminated Round 2
Dr. Tzin-Tzin- Eliminated Round 4
Dr. Phosphorous- Top 20
Electrocutioner I- Eliminated Round 4
Electrocutioner II- Eliminated Round 2
Electrocutioner III- Eliminated Round 2
Eraser- Eliminated Round 2
False Face- Eliminated Round 1
Film Freak- Eliminated Round 3
Firebug- Eliminated Round 2
Firefly- Eliminated Round 4
Fox (Terrible Trio)- Eliminated Round 3
Harley Quinn- Top 50
Henri Ducard- Eliminated Round 2
Holiday- Eliminated Round 3
Hugo Strange- Top 50
Hush- Eliminated Round 2
Joe Chill- Top 20
Joker (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 2
Joker (Silver Age)- Top 20
KGBeast- Eliminated Round 5
Killer Croc (Bronze Age)- Top 20
Killer Croc (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Killer Moth- Top 50
King Snake- Eliminated Round 3
Kite-Man- Top 50
Lew Moxon- Eliminated Round 1
Lady Shiva- Top 20
Lord Death Man- Eliminated Round 2
Mad-Hatter- Top 20
Mad-Hatter(Imposter)- Eliminated Round 2
Magpie- Eliminated Round 5
Maxie Zeus- Top 50
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age)- Top 50
Mister Freeze (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Mister Freeze (Silver Age)- Top 50
Monk- Eliminated Round 5
Mr. Zsasz- Eliminated Round 3
Nightslayer- Eliminated Round 3
NKVDemon- Eliminated Round 3
Nocturna- Top Six
Orca- Eliminated Round 2
Outsider- Top 20
Penguin (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Poison Ivy (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Poison Ivy (Silver Age)- Top 20
Polka-Dot Man- Eliminated Round 4
Professor Milo- Elminated Round 2
Professor Pyg- Eliminated Round 3
Prometheus- Eliminated Round 2
Quakemaster- Eliminated Round 2
Queen of Hearts- Eliminated Round 3
Ra's Al-Ghul- Eliminated Round 5
Ratcatcher- Eliminated Round 5
Reaper- Eliminated Round 3
Red Hood (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Red Hood (Silver Age)- Top 50
Riddler (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Riddler (Silver Age)- Top 20
Rupert Thorne- Eliminated Round 2
Sal Maroni- Eliminated Round 2
Scarecrow- Top 20
Shark (Terrible Trio)- Eliminated Round 3
Signalman- Top 50
Spellbinder I- Top 50
Spellbinder II- Eliminated Round 3
Spook- Eliminated Round 5
Sterling Silversmith- Eliminated Round 5
Tally Man I- Eliminated Round 1
Tally Man II- Eliminated Round 2
Ten-Eyed Man- Eliminated Round 2
The Penguin (Silver Age)- Top 20
Tony Zucco- Eliminated Round 4
Trigger Twins- Eliminated Round 2
Tweedledee- Top 50
Tweedledum (Dumfree)- Top 50
Tweedledum II (Dumpson)- Eliminated Round 3
Two-Face (Golden Age)- Top 20
Two-Face (Modern Age)- Eliminated Round 3
Ubu- Eliminated Round 4
Ventriloquist I (Arnold)- Top 20
Ventriloquist II (Peyton)- Eliminated Round 2
Vulture (Terrible Trio)- Eliminated Round 3
Werewolf- Eliminated Round 3
Wrath- Eliminated Round 4

My Wildcard pick is Harley Quinn. My reason is because I have been a fan since I was a child watching the Batman cartoons.

My wildcard pick is Lady Shiva. She is an exceptional challenge for the whole Bat family (and mother to one of them).

Can I please get some clarification on how this Wild Card Pick works?

Is the character we pick automatically added back to the list (meaning we might get 6 or 7 or however many people vote re-added)?

Or will only the character with the most votes be re-added?

Or do we all nominate someone and then pick from that pool?

I'm confused. Sorry if this has already been explained.

Everyone gets to add one Wildcard. If Emily needs to round out the numbers, additional characters will be added at randomn.

Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age)

I always feel a bit for the characters that have just gone. Thinks...

Clayface III (Payne). Tragic, creepy, scary, somewhat sympathetic, but still a psychopath. Both Moore and Morrison did interesting things with him.

Thanks Dave!

OK I'll vote for Black Spider.

If it's OK, I'm going to change my vote to:

The Cavalier.

I feel like rewarding him for randomly making it this far.

Thank you for including a list of when each character was eliminated, Emily.

Having a hard time picking a Wild Card, as I find a lot of characters interesting, but none really that truly fascinate me the way Kinetix, Gates, Kole or Kimiyo Hoshi do. Hmm...

Narrowed it down to Poison Ivy, Riddler and Two-Face.

I'm going for:

Poison Ivy (Silver Age)

Still thinking... My shortlist is...


Black Mask- Top 20 – I could remember the art on his stories. A lot of Morrison’s stuff reminded me of his stories. Masks and personal revenge and the False Face Society. Pent up rage across a life time finds a new face to express it. Masks are something of a recurring Bat-Theme.

Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age) - Top 50 – Captures a classic age of horror movies that I’ve enjoyed over the years.

Joker (Silver Age)- Top 20 – Hard to imagine there not being a Joker in the final rounds. The only trouble I have is picking an age I like for the Joker. I’ve only seen a little of the newest version and it doesn’t appeal. Moore’s Killing Joke or Miller’s aged psychopath show plenty of madness, but in a very unpleasant shock manner. Then there’s the one that beats Robin to near death. But going further back, he’s interchangeable with other Bat-Villains. Perhaps he’s best at that shock appearance of chaos before returning to the shadows. That doesn’t give him the lasting legacy of a Talia or Catwoman.

Nocturna- Top Six – While her introduction was a little forced, and the dialogue a little overwrought across the whole book, there was some great art, impressive cliff-hangers and we got to look at new sides of Bruce. Sides that showed him looking at Robin as a father, not just as a partner and his obsession with his role as the Dark Knight.

Outsider- Top 20 -
“Is that today’s paper Alfred?”
“Yes Master Bruce. And I’ve turned it to the obituaries! Ha hahahaha!”

Ra's Al-Ghul- Eliminated Round 5 – I usually think of a modern Fu Manchu when I see Ras. Vastly intelligent; huge network of operatives; a very capable daughter (combined with one of Rohmer’s love interest characters) and a visionary perspective that goes beyond territorial boundaries.

Scarecrow- Top 20 – He has an excellent origin. The good villains have triggers that turn them to their crimes. The best don’t see themselves as villains at all. His methods amplify the fear that grips Gotham allowing so many of the Batman books to work at their best.

Two-Face (Golden Age)- Top 20
Some harrowing truths about upholding the law in the face of wide corruption. Some pulp/ golden age nods; concepts of duality, order and chance and the thrill of wondering which side of the coin will be face up.

Wrath- Eliminated Round 4
With one appearance we saw how Batman’s life could have turned out. With the same personality, but none of the support.