The winner of the poll is the Towers game! So, I will create two lists of characters that will do battle with each other here in this part of Spaceopoly.
Example: Superman vs. Batman Flash vs. Green Lantern
I will probably use a randomizer to make things more interesting. If too many battles are clearly uneven, I will rearrange them to be more fair. Would you guys have a preference for teams or fights? Otherwise, I will do a Marvel vs. DC heroes game.
It was easy to create the lists, though they might be shorter than what we are used to in Idols. I decided to stick with mostly Justice League and Avengers, as those two teams line up nicely. I capped the limit of heroes to 52 each, as some are obscure and many have the same name as another character. I will add more characters if one side has ten or less in the game. We will figure out the details of choosing more characters if/when it becomes an issue. If you are unfamilar with a character, both DC and Marvel have guides available online. I find Marvel's site to be slightly more useful because they have statistics for all their characters.
DC vs. Marvel
1. Aztek vs. Falcon 2. Huntress vs. Rogue 3. Hawkgirl vs. Hercules 4. Vixen vs. Captain Mar-vel 5. Hawkman vs She-Hulk 6. Aquaman vs. Wolverine 7. Gypsy vs. White Tiger 8. Flash (Barry) vs. Stature 9. Firestorm vs Mr. Fantastic 10. Big Barda vs. Moondragon 11. Atom (Choi) vs. Genis-vel 12. Blue Devil vs. Namor 13. Fire vs. Wonder Man 14. Mr. Miracle vs. Tigra 15. Phantom Stranger vs. Sersi 16. Manitou Raven vs. War Machine 17. Ice vs. Monica Rambeau 18. Martian Manhunter vs. Black Knight 19. Shazam vs. Dr. Strange 20. Faith vs. Captain America 21. Firehawk vs. Yellow Jacket (Pym) 22. Hal Jordan vs. Hulk 23. Dr. Fate vs. Starfox 24. Lobo vs. Hellcat 25. Batman vs. Wasp 26. Steel vs. Quicksilver 27. Black Lightning vs. Iron Man 28. Cyborg vs. Hawkeye II (Bishop) 29. Elongated Man vs. Medusa 30. Black Canary vs. Ms.Marvel 31. Wonder Woman vs. Vision 32. Tasmanian Devil vs. Adamantium Man 33. Superman vs. Thor (I promise this was random) 34. Red Arrow vs. Firestar 35. Batgirl (Barbara) vs. Black Widow 36. Vibe vs. Spider-Man 37. Kyle Rayner vs. Invisible Woman 38. Booster Gold vs. Ant-Man (Lang) 39. Blue Beetle vs. Justice 40. Geo-Force vs. Quasar 41. Green Arrow vs. Mockingbird 42. Red Tornado vs. Luke Cage 43. Lightray vs. Scarlet Witch 44. Mary Marvel vs. Silver Surfer 45. Star-Girl vs. Hawkeye 46. Zatanna vs. Mantis 47. Plastic Man vs. Swordsman 48. Aqualad II vs. Beast 49. Dr.Light II vs. Valkryie 50. Atom (Palmer) vs. Black Panther 51. Power Girl vs. Firebird 52. John Stewart vs. Triathlon
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 04/18/1704:41 PM.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
1. Aztek 2. Rogue 3. Hawkgirl 4. Captain Mar-vel 5. She-Hulk 6. Wolverine 7. White Tiger 8. Flash (Barry) 9. Firestorm 10. Big Barda 11. Genis-vel 12. Namor 13. Wonder Man 14. Mr. Miracle 15. Phantom Stranger 16. War Machine 17. Monica Rambeau 18. Martian Manhunter 19. Shazam 20. Captain America 21. Firehawk 22. Hal Jordan 23. Dr. Fate 24. Lobo 25. Batman 26. Quicksilver 27. Iron Man 28. Cyborg 29. Elongated Man 30. Ms.Marvel 31. Wonder Woman 32. Adamantium Man 33. Thor 34. Firestar 35. Black Widow 36. Spider-Man 37. Invisible Woman 38. Booster Gold 39. Blue Beetle 40. Quasar 41. Green Arrow 42. Luke Cage 43. Scarlet Witch 44. Mary Marvel 45. Hawkeye 46. Zatanna 47. Plastic Man 48. Beast 49. Valkryie 50. Black Panther 51. Power Girl 52. John Stewart
Some real toughies there. Firestorm v Mister Fantastic was the toughest. But Barda v Strange; Shazam v Dr Strange, Dr Light v Valkryie and Palmer v Panther were the ones I had to think through too.
As for Super vs Thor (what a draw), I'm reminded of the JLA vs Avengers mini. I thought it was odd that Supes would come out on top in that one. Back when it was a pre Crisis idea, and Supes was moving planets around, then fine. But it was post Crisis Supes. While he had been depowered and was sniffling his way through issues, Thor was being reminded that he'd outlive everyone of his teammates over in the Avengers series.
Last edited by thoth lad; 04/21/1710:11 AM. Reason: made a decision on 49 and 50
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
I plan to write match commentaries on these along with the results. I loved the old (now defunct) CBUB fights and want to try to get the same level of energy.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
As for Super vs Thor (what a draw), I'm reminded of the JLA vs Avengers mini. I thought it was odd that Supes would come out on top in that one. Back when it was a pre Crisis idea, and Supes was moving planets around, then fine. But it was post Crisis Supes. While he had been depowered and was sniffling his way through issues, Thor was being reminded that he'd outlive everyone of his teammates over in the Avengers series.
I think what Busiek was saying (to the chagrin of Marvel fans on the internet, as this image will be shared in perpetuity), is that even at reduced Post-Crisis levels, Superman's power levels are still higher or comparable to Marvel's higher end.
I remember Supes (and some other JLA members, if I remember right) making a similar observation on another page in that mini - DC heroes tended to be a bit more powerful than their Marvel counterparts.
To the best of my knowledge, DC has never released official statistics of their characters the way Marvel has. But if we were to go by feats, yes, in general, DC super-heroes are more powerful. There is a huge chunk of characters that have what I call the "Superman powerset". Like Busiek said, that easily puts Superman in what Marvel would call the deities category. One might even argue Sky-Father level since he beat Thor.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
There was a panel late in the mini when the Wasp cheers that Captain America gets to lead the combined forces. Finally, there was something that went their way. I'm not sure that early post crisis Supes would have really stopped Thor. That was probably the last Supes I read at any length. So, his power levels probably crept back up again. I'd still fancy Thor to beat Doomsday though.
As for stats, the RPGs are good for that sort of thing. Even if there's not an official crossover, there's enough description in the categories so that you can move characters between systems.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Re Cap leading the combined teams, that was a good scene where the League recognizes Cap's leadership abilities.
I also got a chuckle out of the Avengers marveling at how easy it was to coordinate with J'Onns's telepathy - then began to wonder why it felt so new to them. I mean, they have telepaths in the Marvel U too. Granted, 99% of them seem to be X-Men, but the Avengers have worked with them before... and they had Moondragon...
Yeah, but with Moondragon you keep getting random "My telepathy is wasted on these fools" and "My costume looks so much better, but then I [iam[/I] so much better" thoughts mixed in with it.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
So I spent over an hour typing nice descriptions, but my browser decided to stop working. So unfortunately, you will just get the results today. If you want to have fun and make your own descriptions, please do so, they are fun to read. Both parties will stay if there is a tie for now.
1. Aztek 2. Rogue 3. Hercules 4. Captain Mar-vel 5. She-Hulk 6. Wolverine 7. Gypsy 8. Flash (Barry) 9. Firestorm 10. Big Barda 11. Genis-vel 12. Namor 13. Wonder Man 14. Mr. Miracle 15. Phantom Stranger 16. Manitou Raven vs. War Machine- Tie 17.Monica Rambeau 18. Martian Manhunter 19. Shazam 20. Faith vs. Captain America- Tie 21. Firehawk vs. Yellow Jacket (Pym)- Tie 22. Hal Jordan vs. Hulk- Tie 23. Dr. Fate 24. Hellcat 25. Batman 26. Steel 27. Black Lightning vs. Iron Man- Tie 28. Cyborg 29. Elongated Man 30. Ms.Marvel 31. Wonder Woman 32. Tasmanian Devil vs. Adamantium Man- Tie 33. Superman 34. Firestar 35. Black Widow 36. Spider-Man 37. Kyle Rayner vs. Invisible Woman- Tie 38. Booster Gold 39. Blue Beetle vs. Justice- Tie 40. Quasar 41. Green Arrow 42. Red Tornado 43. Scarlet Witch 44. Mary Marvel 45. Hawkeye 46. Zatanna 47. Plastic Man 48. . Beast 49. Dr.Light II 50. Atom (Palmer) vs. Black Panther- Tie 51. Power Girl 52. John Stewart
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
That's a shame that your browser packed in Emily. For the larger posts I use MS word and then cut and paste, after it happened a couple of times. It's very frustrating.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Yes, same experience for me. It's so frustrating when you have a long, well thought out post and it vanishes... sorry, Emily. i'm sure your descriptions were great.
... long, well thought out post and it vanishes....
Well, at least I haven't had that burden.
Yeah, when we were talking about Superman class characters, I was wondering how many Marvel characters would make it through. Mister Fantastic drew a particular toughie as did Thor. But it's a good showing... but for how long?
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
... long, well thought out post and it vanishes....
Yeah, when we were talking about Superman class characters, I was wondering how many Marvel characters would make it through. Mister Fantastic drew a particular toughie as did Thor. But it's a good showing... but for how long?
I think it will get interesting once it gets narrowed down. If one side or the other is uneven, I will probably add more X-Men and Titans to keep repeating powersets to a minimum. It is interesting to note that most of the New Gods survived, but most of the Eternals did not (Genis-vel is half Eternal).
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
So, apparently we have extra DC characters, about seven. Next round I will definitely need to add a few Marvel characters in to keep this game balanced.
These get a by week until I figure out what to do: Phantom Stranger, Shazam, Faith, Green Arrow, Dr. Fate, Big Barda, and Tasmanian Devil.
Kyle Rayner vs. Justice Flash (Barry) vs. Wonder Man Atom (Palmer) vs. Wolverine Rogue vs. Firehawk War Machine vs. Gypsy Quasar vs. Mary Marvel Hal Jordan vs. Yellow Jackey (Pym) John Stewart vs. Genis-vel Zatanna vs. Invisible Woman Superman vs. Black Panther Hellcat vs. Batman Beast vs. Cyborg Power Girl vs. Monica Rambeau Wonder Woman vs. Adamantium Man Hawkeye vs. Booster Gold Manitou Raven vs. Hercules Plastic Man vs. Hulk Mr. Miracle vs. Iron Man Aztek vs. She-Hulk Steel vs. Black Widow Elongated Man vs. Ms.Marvel Black Lightning vs. Firestar Red Tornado vs. Spider-Man Blue Beetle vs. Captain America Dr.Light II vs. Captain Mar-vel Firestorm vs. Namor Martian Manhunter vs. Scarlet Witch
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 05/11/1706:20 PM. Reason: I confused my Marvels and DCs
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Kyle Rayner Flash (Barry) Wolverine Rogue War Machine Quasar Hal Jordan Genis-vel Invisible Woman Superman Batman Beast Monica Rambeau Wonder Woman Hawkeye Hercules Hulk Iron Man She-Hulk Steel Ms.Marvel Firestar Red Tornado Captain America Captain Mar-vel Firestorm Scarlet Witch
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Kyle Rayner Flash (Barry) Atom (Palmer) Firehawk War Machine Mary Marvel Hal Jordan John Stewart Zatanna Superman Batman Beast Power Girl Wonder Woman Hawkeye Hercules Hulk Mr. Miracle Aztek Steel Ms.Marvel Black Lightning Red Tornado Captain America Captain Mar-vel Firestorm Martian Manhunter
Kyle Rayner Flash (Barry) Wolverine Rogue War Machine Mary Marvel Hal Jordan John Stewart Zatanna Superman Batman Cyborg Monica Rambeau Wonder Woman Hawkeye Hercules Hulk Iron Man She-Hulk Black Widow Ms.Marvel Firestar Red Tornado Captain America Dr.Light II Firestorm Martian Manhunter
Kyle Rayner Flash (Barry) Atom (Palmer) Firehawk War Machine Mary Marvel Hal Jordan John Stewart Zatanna (raeppa!) Superman Batman Cyborg Monica Rambeau Wonder Woman Booster Gold Manitou Raven Hulk Iron Man She-Hulk Steel Ms.Marvel Firestar Red Tornado Captain America Dr.Light II Firestorm Martian Manhunter
I was thinking that Mr Stark would catch him in a wide area burst. Scott got electrocuted by Rocket Red, so he couldn't open a tin can from the Soviets!
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Kyle Rayner Flash (Barry) Wolverine Rogue War Machine Mary Marvel Hal Jordan John Stewart Invisible Woman Superman Batman Beast Monica Rambeau Wonder Woman Hawkeye Hercules Hulk Iron Man She-Hulk Black Widow Ms.Marvel Firestar Spider-Man Captain America Captain Mar-vel Firestorm Scarlet Witch
Kyle Rayner Flash (Barry) Wolverine Rogue War Machine Mary Marvel Hal Jordan John Stewart Zatanna Superman Hellcat Cyborg Power Girl Wonder Woman Hawkeye Hercules Hulk Mr. Miracle She-Hulk Black Widow Elongated Man Black Lightning Red Tornado Captain America Captain Mar-vel Firestorm Martian Manhunter
Thank you for joining the game. I will keep voting open until 9:00 P.M US Central Time, then I will count the votes. There may be a day or two in between rounds because I am going to fill in blank Marvel spaces with X-Men characters.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Here is the results! The bold ones are the winners. A fair warning that I expect to edit this post so I can access how many leftover DC characters we have left. I may also embellish the results with match synopsis. If you have a synopsis in your head, please share it and I will include it in this post.
Round 2
Kyle Rayner vs. Justice Kyle Rayner's experience with telepathy in the Justice League allows him to fight off Justice long enough to create a trippy prison with his ring. Art School paid off big time for this hero. Flash (Barry) vs. Wonder Man Wonder Man spends too much time pandering to the audience that he loses site that this is a real fight. Flash(Barry) literally has time in his hands and runs circles around him. Once Wonder Man realizes how tough his opponent is, he tries his best to fight, but it is hard to punch something one barely sees. The lack of speedsters in Marvel gives the Flash(Barry) another huge advantage over his opponent, as his power-level would put him close to Eternal level. Atom (Palmer) vs. Wolverine The various fights with and against the Avengers give Wolverine a good idea of what he is dealing with. It is hard for Atom(Palmer) to hide as Wolverine's keen senses prevent him being surprised. The ear-drum trick doesn't work in this case because Wolverine forces him to one-on-one combat in his normal form. Wolverine's training and powers are more than a match for Justice League training if one is relatively powerless. Rogue vs. Firehawk War Machine vs. Gypsy Quasar vs. Mary Marvel Hal Jordan vs. Yellow Jackey (Pym) John Stewart vs. Genis-vel --I want to note that Genis-Vel once destroyed the Universe. I'm unsure it was a Cosmic cube episode. Zatanna vs. Invisible Woman Superman vs. Black Panther Hellcat vs. Batman Beast vs. Cyborg- TIE, Both Remain in Game Power Girl vs. Monica Rambeau Wonder Woman vs. Adamantium Man Hawkeye vs. Booster Gold Manitou Raven vs. Hercules Plastic Man vs. Hulk Mr. Miracle vs. Iron Man Aztek vs. She-Hulk- Aztek was not selling any moves, which made She-Hulk extremely angry. She was so angry that she decided to kick him around a lot. After the match, she apologized to the fans for the poor performance. I picture this as our version of the Inoki vs. Great Antonio march. Go and watch it if you are unaware of it, it is a crazy stomp match. Steel vs. Black Widow- TIE, Both Remain in Game Elongated Man vs. Ms.Marvel Black Lightning vs. Firestar Red Tornado vs. Spider-Man- Match Synopsis by Quislet Esq. Reddy to win. He can attack Spiderman from a distance, remaining out of reach of Spidey's strength and webshooters. Spiderman would not be able to stand up to the tornado winds Red Tornado can generate. Blue Beetle vs. Captain America Dr.Light II vs. Captain Mar-vel Firestorm vs. Namor --I thought this would be close due to Namor's fights with Human Torches (yes I meant plural) Martian Manhunter vs. Scarlet Witch
Our Extra DC Seven Phantom Stranger, Shazam, Faith, Green Arrow, Dr. Fate, Big Barda, and Tasmanian Devil
My count is 15 Marvel and 27 DC characters remaining. I will be adding an additional 12 Marvel characters to keep the game balanced for now. If you have any other ideas (such as tag team matches) to keep the game moving, please let me know.
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 05/20/1707:37 AM.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Red Tornado vs Spiderman. Reddy to win. He can attack Spiderman from a distance, remaining out of reach of Spidey's strength and webshooters. Spiderman would not be able to stand up to the tornado winds Red Tornado can generate.
I have made some edits to my post, including adding Quislet Esq's match synopsis. If my count is off, please let me know ASAP. I will probably go down the X-Men list of appearances and try to match with who we have left. I have to remember to exclude beings like Phantom Stranger from future Towers Games because they are hard to defeat.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
My count is 15 Marvel and 27 DC characters remaining. I will be adding an additional 12 Marvel characters to keep the game balanced for now. If you have any other ideas (such as tag team matches) to keep the game moving, please let me know.
My count is 15 Marvel and 27 DC characters remaining. I will be adding an additional 12 Marvel characters to keep the game balanced for now. If you have any other ideas (such as tag team matches) to keep the game moving, please let me know.
You are correct. Well, at least it will make it easier for me to even it out. I will add the five original X-Men and Professor X to the list and reshuffle the list today or tomorrow.
This is our new list of Marvel characters. For the sake of simplicity, the X-Men's powers and experience are that prior to the pivotal Giant Sized X-Men. This Jean Gray is pre-Phoenix. Note that since Beast was already in the game, I have replaced him with Banshee. The version of Beast currently in the game is that of his most recent appearances. As a general rule of thumb, powers and abilities are at most recent appearance for all characters in this game unless otherwise noted. If you have further questions about character versions, please feel free to ask. We will be doing a Preparation Round after this to spice things up.
Wolverine Rogue Beast Monica Rambeau Hawkeye Hercules Hulk Iron Man She-Hulk Black Widow Ms.Marvel Firestar Captain America Captain Mar-vel War Machine Professor X Cyclops Banshee Angel Iceman Marvel Girl (Jean Gray)
Round Three
Hal Jordan vs. Professor X Batman vs. Hawkeye Steel vs. Cyclops Green Arrow vs. Angel John Stewart vs. Captain Mar-vel Dr. Fate vs. Hercules Kyle Rayner vs. Iceman Wonder Woman vs. Rogue Faith vs. Marvel Girl (Jean Gray) <-- The random generator is good sometimes Zatanna vs. Ms. Marvel Superman vs. Iron Man Flash (Barry) vs. War Machine Phantom Stranger vs. Wolverine <-- Best I can think of Tasmanian Devil vs. Banshee Firestorm vs. Beast <--- Both Scientific Martian Manhunter vs, Hulk Mary Marvel vs. Firestar Cyborg vs. Black Widow Red Tornado vs. Captain America Big Barda vs. Monica Rambeau Shazam vs. She-Hulk
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 05/20/1707:30 AM.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Hal Jordan - has fought telepaths before; has the willpower to resist Professor X long enough to take him out Batman - Batman surely has a plan for beating Green Arrow, and Hawkeye isn't much different Steel - Steel's armor can take a couple of hits, and his hammer gives him a good long-range weapon to take Cykes out Green Arrow - if this were Archangel, I'd give it to Warren. But Ollie has enough toys to take out someone who can just fly John Stewart vs. Captain Mar-vel - I have faith in John and his ringslinging Dr. Fate - magic over Herc's muscles; there are many ways Dr. Fate can take Herc out Kyle Rayner - Kyle smashes through Bobby's ice constructs with his GL ring Wonder Woman - Diana can lasso Rogue and take her out before Rogue even gets near Faith - I know Jean was powerful, but Faith once threw an alien armada out of a galaxy. And she has this good vibes power to boot. Zatanna - "pn erom srewop!" Sorry Carol, you're powerless. Superman - no contest. Flash (Barry) - Barry is too fast for War Machine to get a hit. Barry forms a cyclone to pull War Machine to the ground... Phantom Stranger - one wave of his hand, and Wolverine is toast Banshee - poor Taz goes down before he gets near Firestorm - long-range nuclear blasts and transmutation beat Beast down Martian Manhunter - too many powers. sorry Hulk Mary Marvel - Mary is too durable for Firestar, I think. Cyborg - too many gadgets for Natasha to handle Red Tornado - Reddy blows Cap away before he can get close Monica Rambeau - Barda's tough, but she's not invulnerable... Shazam - way stronger than She-Hulk, sorry
Professor X (The whole telepathy/mind control would stop Just about anybody) Batman Steel Green Arrow John Stewart Dr. Fate Kyle Rayner Wonder Woman Marvel Girl (Jean Gray) Zatanna Superman Flash (Barry) Phantom Stranger Banshee Firestorm Martian Manhunter Mary Marvel Black Widow Captain America Monica Rambeau Captain Marvel (Shazam)
Hal Jordan Batman Steel Green Arrow John Stewart Dr. Fate Kyle Rayner Rogue Marvel Girl (Jean Gray) Ms. Marvel Superman Flash (Barry) Wolverine Banshee Firestorm Hulk Mary Marvel Black Widow Captain America Big Barda Shazam
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Hal Jordan Batman Cyclops Green Arrow John Stewart Dr. Fate Kyle Rayner Wonder Woman Marvel Girl (Jean Gray) Zatanna Superman Flash (Barry) Phantom Stranger Banshee Firestorm Martian Manhunter Mary Marvel Cyborg Red Tornado Big Barda Captain Marvel (Shazam)
Professor X Batman Cyclops Green Arrow John Stewart Dr. Fate Iceman Wonder Woman Marvel Girl Ms. Marvel Superman Flash Wolverine Banshee Firestorm Martian Manhunter Mary Marvel Black Widow Captain America Monica Rambeau Shazam
Professor X Batman Steel Green Arrow John Stewart Dr. Fate Kyle Rayner Wonder Woman Marvel Girl (Jean Gray) Zatanna Superman Flash (Barry) Phantom Stranger Banshee Firestorm Martian Manhunter Mary Marvel Cyborg Red Tornado Monica Rambeau Shazam
Yes, I'm kind of dreading the vote tally. I hope I don't have to re-balance the teams again. When I put this together, I was hoping we would more or less have even eliminations until the last few rounds. Part of me wonders what would have happened if I did a Villains version of this, as more Marvel villains seem to have powers.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Hi everyone, sorry once again you get the bare minimum as my internet clunked out at the worst time. Fortunately, I at least saved all the scores. Feel free to add your own synopsis, I will add more as we discuss. It is hard for me to write realistic blow-out fights, as they aren't as entertaining in my opinion.
I feel like most of the matches I am making are relatively equal so I am confused by the results...if anyone has any better suggestions for matching let me know.
Hal Jordan 3 vs. Professor X 3- TIE Batman 6 vs. Hawkeye Steel 4 Cyclops 2 Green Arrow 6 vs. Angel John Stewart 6 vs. Captain Mar-vel (I need to start voting as I disagree with this) Dr.Fate 6 vs. Hercules Kyle Rayner 5 Iceman 1 Wonder Woman 5 Rogue 1 Faith 1 Marvel Girl(Jean Gray) 5 Zatanna 4 Ms.Marvel 2 Superman 6 vs. Iron Man Flash (Barry) 6 vs. War Machine Phantom Stranger 4 Wolverine 2 Tasmanian Devil vs. Banshee 6 Firestorm 6 vs. Beast Martian Manhunter 5 vs. Hulk 1 Mary Marvel 6 vs. Firestar Cyborg 3 vs. Black Widow 3- TIE Red Tornado 3 vs. Captain America 3- TIE Big Barda 2 Monica Rambeau 4 Shazam 6 vs. She-Hulk
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 05/26/1706:14 PM.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Yes, I'm kind of dreading the vote tally. I hope I don't have to re-balance the teams again. When I put this together, I was hoping we would more or less have even eliminations until the last few rounds. Part of me wonders what would have happened if I did a Villains version of this, as more Marvel villains seem to have powers.
I guess I will have a mini DC vs. DC towers game inside of this one in order to keep the game going. Would anyone object if I just remove Phantom Stranger? I feel like he is just going to win if I do not. I should have excluded all top-tier entities from the game.
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 05/27/1702:44 PM.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Cool, thank you for the swift responses. By my count, we have nine extra DC characters, so I think I will do three matches of three. Example: character 1 vs. character 2 vs. character 3. In WWE terms, a small Battle Royale.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Cool, thank you for the swift responses. By my count, we have nine extra DC characters, so I think I will do three matches of three. Example: character 1 vs. character 2 vs. character 3. In WWE terms, a small Battle Royale.
After removing Stranger, I count 11 more DC characters (17-6).
I'm thinking of just putting all the remaining DC characters in a real Battle Royale then, and letting who you think the six remaining ones would be. If that doesn't sound like a good idea, I will side-step the voting process and just eliminate the extras through Random.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Royal Rumble Time! Please choose the top six that would survive a fight against the odds. This is in a neutral arena setting, so now powers should have an unfair advantage.
Hal Jordan Batman Steel Green Arrow John Stewart Dr.Fate Kyle Rayner Wonder Woman Zatanna Superman Flash (Barry) Firestorm Martian Manhunter Mary Marvel Cyborg Red Tornado Shazam
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
I have decided instead of picking between two Green Lanterns, to let Shazam advance instead in order to avoid debate. Both Green Lanterns are very powerful but they have extremely different styles. I will probably use Random tonight to start the next round later today. The Results are as Follows: Poll Results Kyle Rayner Wonder Woman 4 Zatanna 2 Superman 4 Flash (Barry) 2 Firestorm 3 Martian Manhunter 3 Mary Marvel 1 Cyborg 1 Red Tornado Shazam 2
After this, the Semi-Finals! Hmm, no street-level characters left for the DC side.
Zatanna vs. Captain America Wonder Woman vs. Professor X Shazam vs. Black Widow Martian Manhunter vs. Marvel Girl(Jean Gray) Superman vs. Monica Rambeau Firestorm vs. Banshee
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Zatanna Prof X (Diana has been susceptible to telepaths before) Shazam Martian Manhunter Monica Rambeau (she can always turn into red sunlight... even if she doesn't figure out Supes' weakness right away she can remain in energy form) Firestorm
It is clear from preliminary votes that DC will win over Marvel. The question arises on how we wish to end the game? Would you like a one-vs-one battle for sake of completion or just to end it?
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Ok, we will do one on one battles then. I will start with these:
Superman vs. Professor Xavier Shazam vs. Zatanna Martian Manhunter vs. Firestorm
I will have to end this round Saturday night as I am leaving for vacation on Sunday.You guys can do mini-Towers or bonus rounds if you want to continue. This has been a lot of fun, and since the thread title is generic I might just keep using it.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
This version of Xavier is shortly before "All-New X-Men, All Different X-Men", when they introduced Storm, Wolverine, etc. to a larger audience. By the way, anyone seen Myg lately?
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
These are the results per my count. At this stage, I just use a notepad and count what people post (which is probably why I get the most errors).
Superman 2 Zatanna 3 Firestorm 1 Martian Manhunter 3 Shazam 1 Professor X 2
So the next 'official' matches would be: Martian Manhunter vs. Professor X and Superman vs. Zatanna. For the sake of time, if a Moderator wants to speed this up and run it without me, feel free. Otherwise, you can use this thread for other fights until I return. I will be in an area with little Internet access for a week.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Superman vs. Professor X - tie - both advance Zatanna vs. Shazam/Captain Marvel - 3-1 in favor of Zatanna Martian Manhunter vs. Firestorm - 3-1 in favor of J'Onn
Next:
Martian Manhunter vs. Professor X Superman vs. Zatanna
Vote for your picks for the two matches!
I think we can keep this open until you return, Emily. I think you should have the honor of closing this round =) Although, there WILL be a round after this...
Martian Manhunter (his telepathy is enough to blunt Prof Creepy until he can use Martian vision) Superman (just one blast of superbreath/ heat vision is enough to catch out Zee before she can say a meaningful spell.)
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Martian Manhunter Superman (While her power level fluctuates with the needs of the story, her "Typical" elemental combat magic wouldn't be enough to effectively counter Supes long enough to put him down)
Thank you for running the game in my absence. Here are my votes:
Martian Manhunter vs. Professor X- Professor X, even alien empresses respect his power Superman vs. Zatanna- Zatanna, as she has more versatility. I like his museum in Metropolis though.
I will keep this thread open until 10:30 P.M tomorrow night (Central US Time)
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
I went to bed early last night, so here are the results now.
Martian Manhunter 5 Professor X 1 Zatanna 3 Superman 3
DC won the Towers game a long time ago, so what remains is to have one winner per the fans (that is you) requests. I think the best way to resolve the current situation is a three person brawl.
Martian Manhunter vs. Zatanna vs. Superman
Remember that two of these could team up against a third before turning on each other.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
Martian Manhunter took down Ultraman in moments in Earth 2, and the Martian prevails despite some heat vision injuries. But a moment is all Zee needs to summon up a wall of fire. The Martian may escape from it at super speed, but that just gives Zee the chance to emulate something she picked up from the Scarlet Witch back stage... "No More...Martians." And that's the end of that. Zee for the win.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
I give it to Martian Manhunter. I think Both J'onn & Z would see Supes as the main threat and would both go after him. As I said before Supes is vulnerable to magic, so Zee would take him out. Meanwhile J'onn could use his telepathy to scramble Z's thoughts so she could not cast a spell against him.
Martian Manhunter for the win. he turns intangible, then before Zatanna can cast magic he telepathically shuts her down. He can then do the same to Superman at his leisure.
I was going for the Skrull vote actually "Vote for an Evil You Can Trust!" as it says on their election bumper stickers. Besides, Marvel got a bit of a beating in this one.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Looking good for Martian (drop me from the JLA will you?) Manhunter.
To be fair. In the early JLA stories he wasa second rate Superman and pretty much only used his Martian Breath. He bacame a much better character when writers started focusing on his Shapesifting and telepath.
Ah those early JLoA tales when Fox and Sekowsky focused on Martian Breath. JLoA versus the Mint Master! When Holly Tosis Betrayed the League! The Crown Caps Injustice! All classics.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Thank you all for your participation, time, and patience! I will be taking a short, probably about a month, break from running any games. If any of you wish to run a Tournament or Idol please feel free to do so. I only ask that if any of you would want to go straight to our Legion of Doom (Justice League Villain) Idol, to please consult me first as I know where to find a good list.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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Thanks Ibby!
Has Zee been replaced by Wanda?! Are Marvel poised to win after all?! Is Wanda a Skrull?!
