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Carpenter not a fan of Rob Zombie's version:

http://ihorror.com/john-carpenter-finally-comments-rob-zombies-halloween/

I'm not surprised to hear Zombie can be a bit of an egotistical jerk. This is the guy who blamed horror fans themselves for his movies failing critically every time after all.

My 13-year-old granddaughter, whom I have called 'Sapphire' elsewhere (because that is not her name) has been involved in musical theater here for a few years.

What she would really like to do for Halloween one year, is for Disney to release a stage version of Nightmare Before Christmas, or Neil Gaiman to write Coraline: The Musical.

And then let her Theater group do it.

Sorry... silly me. Y'all meant "Halloween" films, not Hallowe'en films.

So...yeah, it's October, and the 4-5-6 Halloween trilogy just got played again on AMC. Seeing 5 ALWAYS makes me think again about whether the intent was or was not for the character of Tina to have been killed off. We see her writhing just after suffering the wound and weakly imploring Jamie to run. The exact location of her single stab wound is ambiguous. It was somewhere in the chest or possibly in the shoulder. And we later see her on a gurney, not in, or being put in, a body bag.

It just seems that Tina is set up to basically take up the role that Rachel served as Jamie's protector. Rachel falls early in the film, and Tina is there to step into the void. By horror movie logic, this means she should survive to the end of the film. I guess this is why Tina apparently dying just nags at me so, with the vague circumstances of her demise backing that feeling up. I suppose I should applaud the filmmakers for not making their plot quite so predictable, but it bugs me that Tina dying may not have been the intent.

Meanwhile, another cool character from 4 & 5's fate seems ambiguous, as well. I speak of Sheriff Meeker. He apparently dies in the finale of 5 as the mysterious Man in Black shoots up the police station and frees Michael. We see a number of bodies but no lingering camera shot on Meeker. More than one of them looks like they could be him, but I don't get the confirmation I need. Plus, who's to say that all the officers are dead, though it doesn't look particularly good? *sigh* I can drive myself crazy with this sort of thing! In any case, I enjoyed the character and what the actor's presence added to those two movies.

As for 6, a young Paul Rudd's performance as grown up Tommy Doyle is...bizarre, to put it kindly. I guess we're lucky this role didn't kill Rudd's career because we would have been all the poorer without his gift for comedic roles.

Watched the first one last night. Despite seeing 4, 5, H20, and parts of the others, I realised I've never sat down and watched the first one. Some thoughts:

Loomis is much more of a non-entity than I thought he'd be. He's exposition machine and little else until the last frame. I did find it funny how he spooked the kids, showing a bit of a mean streak in him.

Michael isn't that big. In later movies they really beef him up (ala Jason) to increase his intimidation factor, but in the kitchen scene he's no bigger than Ben.

P.J. Soles! The immortal Riff Randall! (Well, maybe not so immortal in this one).

Funny to see the kids watching "The Thing".

Pacing was interesting. I had to check the time on the PVR and was surprised to find only 15 minutes left and the main action really hadn't even started yet. They packed a lot into the final frame.

The supernatural aspects of Michael's recovery similarly came out of left field and would be a little jarring if you didn't already know the story.

I know it's a horror movie, but Laurie drops the knife TWICE next to Michael's body. C'mon!

I wasn't aware there was a face reveal. Interesting he couldn't kill until the mask was on (similar to his sister). But if that's his hang-up, how could he kill that guy in the pick-up?

So was a sequel always planned or was it just one of those open endings?