Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Calling the Roll of THE LEGION #26... (spoilers)

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Orion, Lobo, Big Barda, Firestorm(?), Green Lantern(?), an unidentified cloaked figure, Hawkgirl, Superboy from Earth-Unknown(?), and our three masquerading Legion 'founders' from last issue (one of whom has severe skin problems... must be the dust on Apokalips). Those final three are most intriguing, to me (mostly because their use could believably continue past FOUNDATIONS).

Legion of Super-Villains... Devil's Dozen... Servants of Darkness... whichever designation fits, this is one formidable combo.

Seated in their midst, his form pitted, worn stone is Darkseid. His head slumps into his chest betraying his great age. I wonder if we're actually going to see the big 'D' in action during this storyline? One of the cover images seems to suggest we will. But, I don't know. All these red-eyed rats scurrying around their silent, still, stony master could keep things hopping for four more issues, easily.

Did anyone else note a resemblance between the statuesque Darkseid and the seated, stony-looking figure from LOST #6?

On to the roll...

Beautiful, beautiful pin-up after the Apokalips scene... I'll use that as the template for the call...

UMBRA: Batista's got Tasmia down. She looked *stunning*. His rendition is a bit less... delicate than Coipel' or Lightle's. Whatcha think of the 'grey-out' effect with blue lines of force on page nine? Visually, it's a nice balance to Cosmic Boy's magnetics. For a second, I wondered where Umbra's shadow-cloud of ancestral revenants was... but in deep space, there aren't too many surfaces on which shadows can be cast, are there?

SENSOR: "Leave it to someone who has real muscle these days, Ferro." Uh-huh. Hopefully, this will be explained/quantified in the Secret Files next week.

SPARK: Another of Batista's best characters, IMO. We really were deprived by not seeing Ayla's reaction to Garth-in-Jan. Perhaps in the Secret Files, once again?

FERRO: Andy and Cosmic Boy should be *frequent* partners. For a variety of reasons. 1). It *was* Cos who told Andy to come to the 31st Century. It's in Cos' character to feel an obligation to Andy because of this. Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't seen such a relationship between the two all along. 2). Cos, history buff that he is, and a boy born in the 20th c. would have a lot to discuss, or would they? 3). Their powers mesh perfectly- if an obvious match. 4). Level-headed 'boy scout' and (newly) brash daredevil balance each others' personality.

Page 21-- Hmmm. Superboy and Ferro also *should* have a good deal in common. But, somehow, they don't. I don't think Ferro enjoys being reminded of his past. At least by Superboy.

Good to see Andy's fashion flair used. Seeing him standing in the midst of the metal-bodied Athramites seemed natural. Something else else we should've seen before. I think it'd be a hoot if a small group of Athramites attached themselves to Andy... proclaiming him a 'genius'... following him around... begging to bring his 'vision' to reality.

In comic book 'reality', I guess it makes sense that Andy remain monochromatic iron. But it would make 'real world' sense for Andy to wear colored clothing/uniforms on top of his 'armor'. Or perhaps he'd use metal-specific paints... Also, imagine how metal underwear would chafe after being unable to take it off after a few months...

ULTRA BOY: "Ultra-vision spots unidentified contacts in the vicinity of the 'gate." What happened to penetra-vision? Oh yeah- that's the equivalent of X-ray vision. In any case, that was a clunker of a line.

SUPERBOY: I'll be interested to find out the 'when' Kon-el was plucked from-- since he doesn't seem at all similar to his more downbeat characterization in TEEN TITANS. Then again, who knows 'which' Kon-el this one is? Whoever he is, he took a great deal of glee in needling Cosmic Boy, didn't he?

Page eight-- Superboy hurtling into the energies of a stargate against the advice of Legionnaires reminded me of Meta zooming into the Rift, ultimately causing the events of LOST. Wonder what happened to Meta, anyway? Perhaps there's more to that character than I ever suspected. His name, alone, when considered as an alternative meaning in fiction, might be a clue. Or not.

Page 21-- The old Karate Kid emblem that appeared for about a preboot nanosecond! Hee-hee! I liked the last page 'reveal'. But I wonder how Kon-el will deal with what comes with that uniform...

The 'L' belt beneath the big red 'S' is a bit much, perhaps. Umbra and Apparition don't wear the belt, why should Superboy? He wore a flight ring in the opening scene (at least in some panels:)), but not with the red and the blue. I think the ring'd look better.

Actually, my favorite look was the nipple-bearing ripped-up T-shirt! He should've kept that.

STAR BOY: His aside to Vi seemed a bit... odd. I wouldn't have thought Thom would care much about 'approval ratings' these days- if ever. In general, the Legion's attitude towards Superboy doesn't seem to match the characters' mutual pasts. I wonder-- is this part of the temporal flux affecting KidQ and Nura?

APPARITION: Looked good in the pin-up.

INVISIBLE KID: I'm glad Invisible Kid was included in the 'Leadership Council' scene. Ol' sharp eyes was watchful... and silent. Lyle was chosen to be the 'reaction man' during Jaz's episode. Watch his face change from panel to panel.

LOVED the Brainy/Lyle scene. An entertaining way to drop an exposition 'bomb' on us.

Lyle's gotten much better at turning others invisible, hasn't he? Lyle and Brainy vs. Orion and Hawkgirl. Ouch.

KID QUANTUM: Jaz and Dreamer... the two heroes with powers related to time are experiencing 'glitches'. Intriguing.

Lay one on your Braal-daddy, baby. 'Bout time we saw some lovin' in the Legion. Page 20, panel 3-- follow the direction of Rokk's gaze... Hee-hee... "Rokk likes big butts and his eyes can't lie..."

BRAINIAC 5: Works together with Lyle *seamlessly*. Gotta love it.

TRIAD: Good to see her included in the 'summit'. Wonder if she was trying to outpose Nura?

DREAMER: "The future no longer exists". Chilling line. What a way to herald Nura's first (recorded) adventure as a Legionnaire, isn't it?

SUMMING UP:
I enjoyed most of this issue. The opener is suitably creepy and the Servants impress. I'm most curious about the 'new' Apokalipians.

The 'Five Weeks Later' shift was a cute, fairly understated nod at the past. But, as with the five *year* gap, I very much miss some of the moments skipped. For example, Dreamer's first days as a Legionnaire (though, to be fair, it does *seem* as if she's been a member for awhile now).

We also missed team-members' reactions to Umbra's return... and to her new shadow manifestations.

And we missed reactions to Garth-in-Jan. What did Ayla, Mekt, Cham, etc. think and/or feel when they came face to face with this being?

Also-- the cadets. When next we see them, they'll likely be fairly acclimated to life on Legion World, if not to 'superheroing'. If characterized as complete newbies, it'll be unrealistic.

Rokk and Jaz's date-- we didn't get to see it! Now, I can always imagine Jaz sitting across from Rokk wearing a humongous beehive to end all beehives.

Ah, well. Perhaps some of this will be covered in SECRET FILES.

I loved the visualizations of Apokalips and the Time Institute-- both inside and out.

I find the *idea* of the catastrophists a good one. I'd like to hear their philosophy voiced by one or more of the 'believers', though. Wouldn't Talokians make likely candidates, given their recent depiction? What would lead an individual to this desperate, cynical creed?

I liked the pairings in this issue... Rokk/Ferro... KidQ/Dreamer... Brainy/Lyle... provided superheroics 'couples'. Romance visited Garth-in-Jan/Imra and Rokk/Kid Q. Superboy/Ferro and Ferro and the Athramites made sense.

FOUNDATION. Now a third done. If only someone could find Gates... but then that might further confuse Superboy.

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I dunno... after living through the dread and fear that ZERO HOUR caused me years ago, Dreamer's "I can't see the future because there IS no future" line made me crack a silly smile and roll my eyes.

So, Coz is down with the swirl. That's cool and stuff, but I can't help but miss Lydda. That she has been re-intro'ed postboot makes me miss her even more. *sigh*

I too enjoyed Andy's return to fashion-plate-ness. Too bad we didn't see more of his romance with Val. 'Course, if MY hubby was letting another guy wear his shirts like Val is doing for Clone-El, I'd be pretty freakin' pissed. :-D

ANd I gotta say... I almost thought Clone-El's continual reference to the stargates as "space-gates" was a reference to that ongoing joke here at Legion World... that everything's funny with the word "space" in front of it...

I would say with certainly that that's a Green Lantern of some sort and I'd also list a Martian (J'onn?) -- the dark fellow with the tail and mouth in his stomach -- among them.

It's ok -- don't love it, but prefer the old manifestation of her powers.

If Andy and Rokk do that meneuver enough, Ferro could just be renamed "Bullet Boy".

I'm not sure what the real world reason would be, but I like the way Ferro looks all ironed up. Besides, if he covered up it'd be like Shikari covering up almost head to toe which takes away a big part of her visual.

I could believe that Rokk's admiration of past heroes (and the "S" label in particular) would elevate his expectations and lead to greater disappointment. But still, it's not like they haven't met Kon before -- which DnA didn't bother to mention. I don't think they really want to acknowledge their past interactions (though we'll see if Triad's past attraction still holds).

Makse me miss Rond...

What DrakeB3003 said previously, adherence to the "spirit of the Last Son" is entirely consistent with Rokk's historical interest in and admiration of the great superheroes of the past, especially Superman, and serves also to explain his disappointment in Superboy, who's acting as jerky as he did when they first met him years ago. After 5 weeks, he and Jazmin are acting like an old married couple, including the all-too-chaste kiss. Let's see some old, fashioned bodice-ripping next time. Maybe Rokk will change into his black corset for some real fun and games when this is all over.

He was negative, sure, but remarkably composed considering he's an abhorrent living-dead freak of nature ostracized by his former teammates (including the ingrates whose asses he saved). The tendency of some fans (mostly male, I'd guess) to accuse superhero characters of whining when they exhibit any trace of emotional vulnerability or verbalize downbeat feelings like unhappiness, pessimism and anxiety is a perspective I've never shared, especially when it comes to Garth, who's proved again and again he has balls the size of Violet's (not shrunken, natch) head. {Getting off my soapbox now.} Presumably, he killed the Progenitor and was killed by it (near) simultaneously. The way the comment is framed, i.e., "why I'm in the body of the man who killed me", might be a deliberate hint at what's going to happen to him next and how he exits Jan's body, but I'm afraid to even speculate at this point.

Maybe not. She really *was* called away to the command deck, and the parting thought "way to fake a telepathic call, Saturn Girl" was Garth's, not Imra's, I believe. She may or may not have realized he was about to touch her at that moment {ugh!}, but for all her understandable wariness she appeared to be making an genuine effort to connect, e.g., trying to make eye contact, smiling and sitting next to him/it. This might be Imra playing the role of team "counselor", or something more. Hard to tell.

There's cadet Retro, too. Wonder what'll happen when he gets the time-anomaly hiccups?

She does look good, but I keep wondering how long it takes her to get into her outfit with all of those slits. Doesn't she get sick of her leg going into the wrong hole? And the crotch armor should really go.

I'm not holding out much hope for the secret files to fill in the blanks we've got. Actually, I appreciate the faster pace. Nevertheless, I really don't get Sensor's persistence in attempting physical combat. That's not how she got into the Legion, after all.

I agree that Batista does a good job with Ayla, but that doesn't mean I want to see any more of her. I can certainly do without more overwrought emotion from any of the Ranzzes if it means we get to see more of the other characters.

Here's some fun...
If two objects are floating in space and force is directed at one object by the other, they would begin travelling in opposite directions at the same speed. Unless Cosmic Boy had some form of traction we could not see, that is what should have happened. Of course, that traction could have been provided by his flight ring, but if his flight ring was the only source of traction that he could use to keep himself anchored, then Ferro's flight ring ought to have just the same amount of power which he could have used to launch himself to the same speed.

I, too, liked the continuity of Andy's interest in fashion.

I really liked Ultra Boy in the fight sequence, probably because he wasn't being the overbearing one, for once.

Fmeh. Superboy, whatever... I hope he stays with the Titans, and Legion gets a reverted Dark Servant Superboy. His acceptance of the costume sure wasn't what I'd expect, though.

Yep, but I suppose we can infer his powers are still around and generally under control, otherwise he wouldn't have been out there.

That was the best I've seen Apparition in a while, plus she wasn't hanging off of Ultra Boy or any other strong guy. That's always good.

I like when Rokk does this. If anyone has to have things all perfectly arranged, it's him (aside from Brainy). We might as well see him get into a snit over it every once in a while to remind us he's conscious. Eventually, I suppose he'll properly arrange Superboy's actions with his pre-conceived notions of those actions. He'll have to, now that we know the Lost Son thing even exists.

At least she was there and not just sitting around being big.

No, no... I don't want to get into this... I'll just tell myself that the life-giving potential of those crystals is some convoluted scheme to re-introduce Element Lad. But, while we're here, isn't Live Wire supposed to look like Element Lad? Frankly, when I first saw him, I thought he had found a way to change his face back to his own.

Saturn Girl gave nothing away this issue. She said her lines, and let's folks know that she's not shunning Jarth.

The whole meeting scene moved things along quite nicely, and it only took 10 panels. (How do whole issues get away with doing less?) It was nice to see Lyle casually making Brainy invisible, that should put some speculation to rest. And, yeah, I'll be interested to see what happens twixt them and the dark Servants.

It was good to see Kid Quantum getting some of that. I wonder how much foreshadowing was involved in the scene during Dream Crime where Darkseid slaps Cosmic Boy aside to stroll toward Kid Quantum.

Yup, she was there.

I suppose it's an okay line, but seemed pretty predictable too.

I really liked this issue. More so than last issue, perhaps because so much of #25 was review. As a device for instigating the review, the cadets served their purpose. But, I'd rather see time spent exploring the lives and characters of those already in the legion, than see more panel time given to Amplified Reflex Girl (speaking of reflexes, guess we know what she can't do).

Plus, we've already got so much more introduced. The Time Institute, Catastrophists, a new romance... Who has panel time for cadets?

Did anyone else note a resemblance between the statuesque Darkseid and the seated, stony-looking figure from LOST #6?

Actually, to me said figure on the Rosette throne looks remarkably like Singularity...if you look really close you'll see shoulder pads, green glowing eyes, and "thick" boots...Singularity who is introduced at the end of Lost #6 is wearing a similar outfit which therefore leads me to conclude that he could be the true Progenitor or an aspect of him. Also note that Singularity's protective nature of what he thought was his home planet Lorcus Prime is VERY similar to that of Element Lad during the 5YG.

Did anyone else note a resemblance between the statuesque Darkseid and the seated, stony-looking figure from LOST #6?

Actually, to me said figure on the Rosette throne looks remarkably like Singularity...if you look really close you'll see shoulder pads, green glowing eyes, and "thick" boots...Singularity who is introduced at the end of Lost #6 is wearing a similar outfit which therefore leads me to conclude that he could be the true Progenitor or an aspect of him. Also note that Singularity's protective nature of what he thought was his home planet Lorcus Prime is VERY similar to that of Element Lad during the 5YG.

Thanks, Todd, for another insightful review!

I loved the special effects of Umbra's power use. Very nicely done.

Doesn't Sensor ever use her illusion powers anymore? They could've been of some use in the fight against the Dark Servants. I hope this isn't another example where a character gains new powers and then almost completely stops using their old ones. (Violet, anyone?)

I thought this too. The characterization of Superboy seems to be a few years out of date, although the black T-shirt/red logo costume would suggest that this is a current, or near future, version of Kon. I'm not sure whether the discrepancy is deliberate (e.g., this is a different version of Kon), or just a product of the writers not having a good enough grasp of the character.

The entire Star Boy bit seemed like nothing more than exposition... but it seemed especially out of place coming from Thom. I think it would have sounded more appropriate from another Legionnaire -- not sure who, though.

Agree with the forced part. To my recollection, we've never once heard of Spirit of the Lost Son before, have we?

Every time I think I'm OK with the green streak, I change my mind after seeing Vi running around with it still in her hair.

Let's "wash that Eye right out of my hair," please.

Are they officially estranged now? Not that a married couple needs to fight together as a team, but I don't think they were even seen acknowledging each other's presence in the entire sequence.

Maybe this is supposed to fill in the "gap" between the end of his series and the beginning of the new Titans series. That would make the most sense -- it could be that it's during his tenure with the Legion that he matures into the guy who's on the Titans book.

Btw, in the latest issue, Kon displayed a new power -- heat vision. Is his Kryptonian genetics becoming more of a presence? We'll see if he displays that here -- it might give some sign of when he was taken.

HELLO to YOU, Mr. Lash, sir!!!

I guess I can understand your reaction, but I can honestly say that Dreamer's line and predicament didn't make me think of ZERO HOUR *at all*!

Now, KIDQ's little time 'burps' sort of did. If her brother walks into a room next issue, then I'll really have ZERO HOUR flashback syndrome.

"The swirl"? Is this referencing Jaz's hairdo? Or something else I'm just not getting?

I miss Lydda, too! Maybe she's in disguise as one of the cadets...

Now, now-- maybe *Andy* gave the shirt to 'Clone-El'. After all, it's not like he's using a wardrobe of his own, these days.

Sneaky, sneaky Andy-- he knows the publicity brouhaha's about to erupt and he wants to get some clothes of his own design (the shirt- not the Superboy outfit) onto the subject of all that glare. Betcha there's a nice, big label ('Ironworks'? 'Ferro of Egypt'?) on the back of the shirt...

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I think you're probably right, DrakeB-- but the 'Green Lantern' *could* be someone else's clone (or whatever). He never does make a construct, just issues green force.

I kind of liked it... her powers'll need *some* visual differention from the shadow-ancestors whenever they are used again.

How about 'Ferro the Stupendous Bullet Boy'?

I only meant that as a person sensitive to color, fabric, etc. Ferro would *want* to wear different clothes. Though I admit you wouldn't get that from the very basic, boring uniform he's been wearing since he joined the team. I think the metallic-paint might be worth exploring. For that matter, couldn't he have his face resculpted now?

Then again, maybe Ferro's contentment with 'basic iron' is akin to famous designers of our time who wear head-to-toe black only...

Exactly, Rokk know that Kon-el isn't 'Superboy who grew up to be Superman'. The attitude towards Kon-el as a whole is problematic.

[ Yeah- I would've liked to have seen Rond. Particularly when he didn't show up during the Universo storyline. Universo, Time Institute, probably Green Lantern--- all of Rond's 'roles' have moved on without him.

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Now that *would* be worth a look, wouldn't it? (The corset and fun and games-- not the 'old married couple...) I don't know... I still find the sudden introduction of the 'Spirit of the Last Son' a bit clunky. Rokk knowing about it would make sense... but being a devotee after spending several months in the 20th Century himself (alright-- I know he *was* in a coma for a good chunk of it)? I'll have to be convinced.

Do we honestly know any of that yet? 'Living-dead'... 'ostractized'... strong suppositions here that I'm not sure are borne out by the story we've seen thus far.

Whoa! Is that a crack!? I used the word 'whiny' and I stand behind it. It's a definite characteristic exhibited by Garth Ranzz in the reboot-- with the exception of his brief stint as leader and the months of the RIFT/LOST stories. There *is* a difference between emotional vulnerability, downbeat expressions of unhappiness and self-centered pity partying used as a defensive wall. I'm afraid Garth fell into the latter during most of the past decade of stories.

Like it or not, superhero characterizations tend to (unfortunately) often be shorthand. I think Garth's was 'ultimately heroic, who reacts from a stance of self-pity'-- up until LOST, in which we *saw* Garth grow up and blossom. I'd much rather read Garth from that place of strength than a return to the overwhelmingly negative. That said, doubt in his current circumstances is more than understandable, but it should be leavened with what he learned in the time leading up to this transformation (or whatever it is).

Garth deliberately killed the Progenitor, whose 'death' (if there was one) was apparently instant and explosive. There was no act by the Progenitor killing Garth. It was the other way around.

To me, the removal of her hand signalled exactly what she felt in that scene. She might've squeezed it, or stroked it before flying off otherwise.

Yes, I wonder about Retro. Will we see more of the cadets during FOUNDATIONS-- or will they be the stuff of future storylines?

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Ah, the wonders of 31st C. textiles...

Agreed about the crotch guard. At least they didn't put a big ol' 'S' on it, though.

Actually, in part, it is. Sensor leapt into Umbra's darkcloud and physically did some fighting, as I remember.

I hope we get *some* blanks filled in the Secret File. I know it's primarily for newish readers, but they *should* throw *us* a bone or two, as well. Right?

A Razz for the Ranzzs, huh? Hmmm. What would untortured Ranzzs be like? I've forgotten...

You had to bring real science into this, didn't you?
Seriously, I'd like to see your remarks used in the actual book in a 'real' scene. Talk about unconventional superheroics...

I liked that, as well. It was mainly his use of 'Ultra Vision' as a proper noun that bothered me-- as if there was a separate and distinct new Legionnaire named 'Ultra Vision'.

I think the ins and outs of the multiple Superboys are what will fuel the plot of FOUNDATIONS. We're all guessing... Sales seemed to increase with the inclusion of a Superboy... I'm afraid we may have to get used to him (or one of him) for awhile. I just hope he doesn't become a total panel-hog.

Agreed. But I want 'their' storyline to reach some sort of conclusion soon.

'Perfectly arranged'? I don't really get that from Rokk. I don't think of him as tightly 'wound', as I sometimes do Brainy (not sure that really applies to Querl anymore, either)... He'd choose order over chaos, sure... but Rokk is well able and willing to step back and let things flow, as we've seen him do. Just not when it comes to Mordru or Ra's al Ghul. And who can blame him for that?

Now there's a glowing commendation.

I *so* agree with your first sentiments. Seeing Garth-in-Jan is almost cruel without that hope. I didn't, however, think that Batista's Element Lad (body) resembled Garth's previous appearance. Maybe it was just the attitude?

There was the incident of the hand...

Don't forget all the catastrophists...

I'd completely forgotten that... Nice recall power, there-- Rewind Kid!

Yes, but a new face here and there is more than welcome, IMO. Gotta give the 'new' generations their own Infectious Lasses and Calorie Queens, don't we? That's always been a part of the Legion's charm, I think.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see very little of them until after FOUNDATIONS. Except possibly for Retro...

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Shoulder pads... check.

"Thick" boots... check.

Green glowing eyes... nope.

Two out of three ain't bad, though.

The mystery around Singularity and around that figure on the throne- whether related or not- is/are one/ones that should be solved sooner rather than later.

The Singularity/5YL Jan resemblance is a good observations, #1... we'll see eventually, I'm sure, whether it was intentional and whether it tells us anything about Jan's future.

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Yes, indeed.

Exorcised!? I hope not! That'd be a waste of a compelling, new idea.

Maybe no one's told her she has to wash and condition her hair... she's just waiting for it to 'shed' and grow nice, thick luxurious new hair.

'Snotty' Jeka-- y'know, I thought with DNA being British, they might have some insight into Jeka's use as a princess that Americans might lack. I hope this isn't the extent of it.

Not at all. Same with her feelings about Cham.

On the other hand, the same awe some of the Legionnaires are demonstrating (uncharacteristically) towards Superboy, might realistically be felt by Ferro towards Cos, the man who pulled Andy from one century to another. Ferro might be *proud* to be Cos' projectile.

I think there was just something in the body language on that page that made me interpret Andy as somewhat resistant to Superboy. Maybe I'm just reacting to Ferro's hiding of the 'surprise'.

That would be a good thing, for the most part. Actually, an Athramite Legionnaire or cadet would make sense. I mean... 47 senses ought to qualify, huh?

Imagine if you were a 'moving statue', though. Wouldn't you want to change colors once in a while?

Not quite.

Yeah... I might do the same, shortly.

I think it was just a wink to/at long-time fans. Newer readers might just think it was a cool insignia.

Oh, so have I- for the most part. Once in awhile, something'll just be obvious, though.

If so, then I'd *really* want him to keep that ripped t-shirt!

Exactimundo.

I do and I don't. I just don't want to be let down by this whole thing.

The hand! The hand! I love your observation about Proty vs. Garth-in-Jan. Very interesting.

Hmmm. From where or when was Nura sending that transmission? I'd assumed she was on Legion World-- probably in her quarters... but maybe not...

5WG! Tee-hee!

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People keep saying this, but honestly I don't understand it. I thought placing the unheeded warning to Sensor in Vi's mouth was perfect characterization for her. She's always been the one to stay somewhat in the background, observing the things the "flashier" members don't notice, and then (often) coming up with a plan to take the villain down.

I wish DnA would use her more, and the sitting around giant thing is pretty annoying, but I don't think it's the case that they don't "get" her. They just don't seem to have any ideas on how to use her...

[Blush]-- You're welcome!

Yeah, I appreciate them more each time I look at that scene.

Especially when Sensor's powers could alter how others 'see' her, since that's at least part of what's bothering her. Then again, the 'bold face forward' does show courage.

I hope it's a deliberate discrepancy. One that is also used in Titans, whenever/however/wherever Kon-el returns to them (if this one does...).

I sure haven't. Maybe Superman fans of long standing have?

Tee-hee... 'South Pacific' reference. Gotta love it.

'Officially estranged'? That'd be sad, wouldn't it? Wonder whose side respective Legionnaires would take?

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I really like this reasoning, DrakeB. I hope you're right!

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Toddkins,

if you're "down with the swirl" it means you find someone of a different race attractive. It's a phrase I first heard used by Martin Lawrence playing Shenaynay on his show MARTIN from the mid-90s. It was also used by Lois on an episode of FAMILY GUY. I thought it was a cute phrase.

Except that there is no such "gap": Kon appeared regularly in Young Justice after his own book was cancelled.

Shoulder pads... check.

"Thick" boots... check.

Green glowing eyes... nope.

Two out of three ain't bad, though.

The mystery around Singularity and around that figure on the throne- whether related or not- is/are one/ones that should be solved sooner rather than later.

The Singularity/5YL Jan resemblance is a good observations, #1... we'll see eventually, I'm sure, whether it was intentional and whether it tells us anything about Jan's future.

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I feel that I must correct myself. I was in error of the color of the glowing eyes. Whatever color they were, Singularity and the figure on the throne had more or less the same color and kind of eyes...crystalline. Who knows, maybe Jan's dementia during his solitude caused the creation of a more vicious self who slowly took control and killed/imprisoned/gave Jan amnesia to get him out the way...yeah it's a long shot but I agree, the sooner this matter is resolved the better!

Another interesting thing about Jan's "fate" is that it is very similar with a couple of tweeks to an episode of Red Dwarf. Rimmer, the hologram got separated from his friends and his module fell through a worm hole that had a different time speed. (ie 1 day on their side equalled 1000 years on the other side) During that time, Rimmer managed to make a companion to while away the hours. He meant for the companion to be female but it turned out to be an exact replica of himself. By the time his friends came through to rescue Rimmer, the whole planet had been populated with Rimmers (scary isn't it?). The original Rimmer had been imprisoned because the clones had declared him "variant" (not the exact wording but you get the idea). Long story short, the Red Dwarf smegpots rescued their number smeghead and escaped being tortured by the evil clone leader.

I feel that I must correct you. The clones WERE female (some of them at least), but they were still replicants of Rimmer in every other way

wow, my first "offical" post (not counting my thanks for the warm welcome)

well, here goes:

yep! i'm really looking forward to the big throw down myself

yeah, i'm really glad Batista's making Umbra look as good as Lightle did in his guest-spot in issue #24

completly agree about Batista's art, yet again. and i hope we see the Ayla/Jarth meet up in Secret Files too

i loved that last panel splash page. i thought "finally, Superboy has come BACK to the Legion!" here's to hoping he can handle what comes with that suit (and i think the "L" belt fits.)

yeah, i've always loved the interplay between these two, post-Zero Hour

yeah, i thought the '5WG' was a nice nod myself...was wondering how many other folks would catch that...and it looks like everyone did. LoL

here's to hoping DnA don't take as long to "feel in the gap"

-Pat!