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Dreamer Not all of these ideas originated with me but if I liked 'em, I used 'em. My apologies to the original 'thinkers' for not noting their names to give them credit.

I make no claim that any of my ideas are the best way to go with these characters, but being a huge pre-boot fan, I did try to include all my old faves as well as the new post-boot kids.

Also, I tried to list adult codename options wherever suitable. Dreamer

ALCHEMIST: Xao Jin's (formerly Dragonmage) essence in Jan Arrah's (formerly Element Lad) crystal body, magically reformed to Jin's appearance.
Homeworld: Earth
Powers: Jan's transmutation and Jin's occult knowledge.
Love Interests: Mysa, Monstress II

ANDROMEDA: Laurel Gand in all her amazon glory!
Homeworld: Ricklef II
Powers: The whole Daxamite package plus the ability to absorb and redirect energy.
Love Interests: Brainiac 5, Rond Vidar

ANIME: Somi Gan/Gan Somi
Homeworld: Lallor
Powers: Can animate 2-D images into tangible 3-D constructs. Carries a deck of Lallorian divination cards.
Love Interests: Sunburst
Notes: Credited to DMFirebow

APPARITION: Tinya Wazzo
Homeworld: Bgtzl
Powers: The only changes to Tinya I've considered are maybe broadening her powers to include massing like the Vision or that guy from Mutant X. Maybe the codename Phase would work better if her powers changed.
Love Interests: Ultra, of course, but their love should occasionally be threatened by outside temptations and even affairs (Timber Wolf)

BABBAGE: Make this Cadet a Legionnaire.
Homeworld: Robotica
Powers: I'm not sure if any abilities have been established but I picture this guy as the Legion's Iron Man - a technological armory.
Love Interests: Gear, Quislet

BLOK: I think his alter ego should be Dag Wentim (formerly Stone Boy), if it isn't already.
Homeworld: Zwen (Stone Boy's home) or Zuun (Timber Wolf's old planet), because it sounds niftier.
Powers: Transforming himself into a massive man-mountain and possibly some tectonic plate-shifting powers.
Love Interests: White Witch

BRAINIAC 5: Querl Dox
Homeworld: Colu
Powers: 12th-level intellect and personal inventions, such as his force field belt. I wouldn't change the genius of this character, other than to have him slightly more proactive, possibly leading more science missions to explore anomalies, etc. (think Mr. Fantastic)
Love Interests: Andromeda, GL Celeste Rockfish

CHAMELEON: Reep Daggle
Homeworld: Durla
Powers: His standard Durlan shapeshifting powers.
Love Interests: Sensor
Notes: Bring back his detective skills. R. J. should definitively be revealed as J'Onn J'Onzz and take Cham under his wing, mentoring him from his millenia of experience.

CHUCK TAINE becomes REBOUND
Homeworld: Earth
Powers: His standby inflation/bouncing always worked for me but maybe this time his powers should be more like Marvel's Speedball.
Love Interests: Myriad Orange

COMET QUEEN: Grava
Homeworld: Quaal-III
Powers: Comet-like flight and particulate emission.
Love Interests: Gates

CONDO ARLIK becomes CATALYST: Condo Arlik
Homeworld: Phlon
Powers: Catalystic control.
Love Interests: Invisible
Notes: The completist in me had to go back and add Condo w/ powers and a human Projectra.

COSMIC BOY becomes COSMOS: Rokk Krinn
Homeworld: Braal
Powers: Per usual, his powers of magnetism.
Love Interests: Quantum, Nocturna
Notes: Polestar is also a good adult codename for Rokk but Cosmos keeps the "Cos" nickname afloat.

CRYSTAL: Bobb Kohan (formerly Crystal Kid)
Homeworld:
Powers: Crystal generation.
Love Interests: Nightwind
Notes: Gemstone might be an alternative choice of codenames.

DAWNSTAR: Bring her back, PLEASE! Shikari's okay but I miss Dawny and Starhaven.
Homeworld: Starhaven
Powers/Notes: Bring her back as a deadly bounty hunter that eventually sides with the Legion. Give her the power to heal others from near mortal injury and some self-regeneration.
Love Interests: Timber Wolf, Tyroc
Notes: Of course you'd have to bring back fellow bounty hunters Grinn & Sade too!

DIRK MORGNA becomes SUNBURST
Homeworld: Earth
Powers: Heat and fire generation.
Love Interests: Anime, Tsunami
Notes: My brother has convinced me to pay homage to the Sun Boy title with Sunburst - besides Inferno's rotting away in the 21st c.

DREAMER: Nura Nal
Homeworld: Naltor
Powers: Precognition.
Love Interests: Starman
Notes: For goodness sakes, return her to the beauty with brains empowered woman!

DUPE: Ord Quelu/Quelu Ord
Homeworld: Lallor
Powers: Can duplicate superpowers within a certain vicinity.
Love Interests: Evolvo

EVOLVO: Sev Tcheru/Tcheru Sev
Homeworld: Lallor
Powers: Evolutionary transformation.
Love Interests: Evolvo

FERRO: Andrew Nolan
Homeworld: Earth (21st c.)
Powers: Typical fare
Love Interests: Thunder

FLORO: Ral Benem
Homeworld: Mardru
Powers: Chlorophyll Kid and Ivy's plant growth-controlling powers and maybe Plant Lad's vegemorphing.
Love Interests:

GATES: Ti'julk Mr'asz
Homeworld: Vyrga
Powers: His current teleporting ability.
Love Interests: Comet Queen

GEAR: I.Z.O.R.
Homeworld: Linsner
Powers: His vague techno-organic morphing ability. He's basically an overriding CPU, correct?
Love Interests: The microwave's a hot little number! Seriously, Babbage or Quislet

GREEN LANTERN: Celeste Rockfish
Homeworld:
Powers: Typical GL abilities
Love Interests: Brainiac 5
Notes: Mark Waid may use Green Lanterns with his reboot and Celeste is my favorite one. I think only a Green Lantern could bypass the powers-only rule successfully - perhaps in the 31st c. the ring is symbiotic with its wearer.

IMPULSE: Richard Kent Shakespeare
Homeworld:
Powers: Alien nervous system giving him Kryptonian-like powers and some permutations.
Love Interests: Insect Queen
Notes: What do you think of Strange Visitor as his codename and an homage to the Superboy/Superman lineage? Can you tell I think Kon-el should be a Titan?

INFECTIOUS LASS becomes VIRUS: Drura Sehpt
Homeworld:Somahtur
Powers: Can infect others with most any known bacteria, virus, or ailment.
Love Interests: Negation

INSECT QUEEN: Lonna Leing
Homeworld: Xanthu
Powers: Insect-specific animal powers via The Red
Love Interests: Impulse

INVISIBLE KID becomes INVISIBLE: Lyle Norg
Homeworld: Earth
Powers: Render himself invisible.
Love Interests: Do it! Catalyst
Notes: Evanesce is a possible codename, too, but the Invisible sounds stealthier and cool like Grant Morrison.

JACQUES FOCCART becomes NEGATION
Homeworld: Earth
Powers: Invisibility like Lyle but I'd also give him the ability to negate/manipulate memory - maybe an EM pulse too.
Love Interests: Virus

KARATE KID becomes SENSEI: Val Armorr
Homeworld: Omega Colony
Powers: None, expert martial mastery.
Love Interests: Umbra
Notes: I'd add a pseudo-mystical ability to detect an opponent's flaws.

KID QUANTUM II becomes QUANTUM: Jazmin Cullen
Homeworld: Xanthu
Powers: Quantum-powered time manipulation.
Love Interests: Cosmos, Tyroc, maybe Re-Animage

KINETIX becomes MONSTRESS II: Zoe Saugin
Homeworld: Aleph
Powers: I have no ideas what her powers will turn out to be, but her 'terrorform' of a giant orange girl is definitely reminiscent of other giant, brightly hued ladies.
Love Interests: Alchemist

KINETIX II: Ganglios
Homeworld: Hykraius
Powers: His telekinesis coupled with empathy this time, instead of telepathy.
Love Interests: Tsunami
Notes: I loved Tellus and his well-envisioned design.

LIVE WIRE: Garth Ranzz
Homeworld: Winath
Powers: Electrical generation only!
Love Interests: Saturna
Notes: Get him out of Jan's body ASAP! Maybe transfer his essence into a clone grown and manipulated from Ayla's DNA.

M'ONEL: Lar Gand the legendary 'father' of many UP worlds!
Homeworld: Daxam (21st c.)
Powers: The whole Daxamite package.
Love Interests: Shvaughn Erin

NEMESIS: Hart Druiter (formerly Nemesis Kid)
Homeworld: Myar
Powers: Fight/flight superpower generation.
Love Interests: Princess Projectra (Projectra), Gossamer

NIGHTWIND: Berta Skye Haris
Homeworld:
Powers: Wind/air manipulation.
Love Interests: Crystal

POLAR BOY becomes ICECAP: Brekk Bannin
Homeworld: Tharr
Powers: Projection of cold and ice.
Love Interests: Flash

PRINCESS PROJECTRA or, simply, PROJECTRA
Homeworld: Pasnic, the Lrptur nation (dayside)
Powers: To make her unique, I'd give her the power to project her indomitable will like the New Mutant, Karma, and/or an emotional state like 'fear,' 'joy,' 'courage,' etc.
Love Interests: Nemesis

QUISLET
Homeworld: Teall
Powers: Energy form capable of animating inorganic materials, usually into sentient forms.
Love Interests: Babbage, Gear

RE-ANIMAGE:
Homeworld:
Powers: Can regenerate from seeming death and possibly communicate with the dead.
Love Interests: Quantum

SATURN GIRL becomes SATURNA: Imra Ardeen
Homeword: Titan
Powers: Telepathy
Love Interests: Live Wire

SENSOR: Jekka Winzorr
Homeworld: Orando
Powers: Illusion-casting and super senses.
Love Interests: Chameleon
Notes: I'm probably in the minority but I like the half snake form. Jeckie was just another white girl (though I loved her romance with Val) and the all-snake form was creepy. I would, however, have her be a catalyst/curse unto her people that causes an Orandii planet-wide mutation into half snake forms.

SHIKARI becomes DRAGONFLY: Shikari Lonestar
Homeworld: Second Galaxy
Powers: Winged flight and a godlike tracking sense
Love Interests: Wildfire

SPARK becomes SPARKLER: Ayla Ranzz
Homeworld: Winath
Powers: Evolve her lightning powers to photon-based light powers ala Farmer/Davis' interpretation.
Love Interests: Violet, Catspaw (reverse-Brin)

SPIDER GIRL becomes GOSSAMER: Sussa Paka
Homeworld: Taltar
Powers: She can manipulate her 'living' hair
Love Interests: Let her try to come between Apparition & Ultra, Nemesis
Notes: I think it's a great way to keep the 'Gossamer' codename in use - as in the gossamer-like web of a spider.

STAR BOY becomes STARMAN: Thom Kallor
Homeworld: Xanthu
Powers: Gravitic control.
Love Interests: Dreamer

THUNDER: Cecebeck "Beck"
Homeworld: Binderaan (100th c.)
Powers: SHAZAM! Need I say more?
Love Interests: Ferro

TENZIL KEM becomes MATTER-EATER
Homeworld: Bismoll
Powers: Super-digestion *snicker*
Love Interests: Tenz is a love machine, don't tie him down (think Lupin III). If anyone in particular, Myriad Purple
Notes: If Chuck can become a member, so should Tenz. He'd join the admin staff with Lu & Chuck and Matter-Eater could be his nickname.

TIMBER WOLF: Brin Londo
Homeworld: Rimbor
Powers: Usual lupine characteristics.
Love Interests: Apparition, Dawnstar
Notes: IF, Gail truly kills this character *cries uncontrollably*, then I would hope to re-introduce Catspaw to fill the void.

TRIAD becomes MYRIAD: Luornu Durgo
Homeworld: Carggg
Powers: Typical triplication BUT mutate her powers into multiple self-replication. Keep the 3 dominant personalities and let the other replications function as drones.
Love Interests: Rebound for Myriad Orange and MatterEater for Myriad Purple

TSUNAMI: Tayla Skott or perhaps change her surname to Lampris (homage to Lamprey and more 'Atlantean'-sounding)
Homeworld: Earth (Atlantis)
Powers: Ability to absorb and expel ambient moisture as well as a liquiform.
Love Interests: Kinetix II, Sunburst
Notes: Credited to DMFirebow

TYROC: Troy Stewart
Homeworld: Marzal
Powers: Sonic generation, manipulation.
Love Interests: Quantum, Dawnstar
Notes: Sonik is a possible updated codename but Tyroc just sounds cooler.

ULTRA BOY becomes ULTRA: Jo Nah
Homeworld: Rimbor
Powers: Can direct his ultra-energy to one power at a time.
Love Interests: Apparition, old girlfriend Gossamer, protective of li'l Kono
Notes: Emerald Dragon or Green Dragon are also good contenders for a new codename.

UMBRA: Tasmia Mallor
Homeworld: Talok VIII
Powers: Manipulation of the Shadow Field.
Love Interests: Sensei

VIOLET: Salu Digby
Homeworld: Imsk
Powers: Again, I'm probably in the minority, but I like that she must bear the guilt of having Gim's growing power in addition to her native shrinking ability.
Love Interests: Sparkler is my first choice but I'm also thinking Driana Allon would make a great romance for her.

WHITE WITCH: Mysa
Homeworld: Zarrox the Sorcerer's World
Powers: Vast magickal knowledge.
Love Interests: Blok
Notes: It'd be nice to have Nura's little sister back - maybe a Lyza (Schnappin) Nal.

WILDFIRE: Drake Burroughs
Homeworld:
Powers: All that anti-energy (whatever that is)
Love Interests: Dragonfly
Notes: Maybe if he's using the 31st c. Firestorm Matrix, the 2 souls as 1 thing wouldn't be so irksome.

XS becomes FLASH: Jenni Ognats
Homeworld: Aarok
Powers: Superspeed via the Speed Force.
Love Interests: Icecap
Notes: Red Tornado would also be a cool codename for Jenni via her link to the Tornado Twins and, of course, XS is cool too.

<marquee behavior=alternate>FALLEN LEGIONNAIRES ~</marquee>

ELEMENT LAD ~ Jan Arrah of Trom
KID QUANTUM ~ James Cullen of Xanthu
LEVIATHAN ~ Gim Allon of Mars
MONSTRESS ~ Candi "Princes" Pyponte-LeParc III

<marquee behavior=alternate>OTHER HEROES OF THE 31st c. ~</marquee>

DARTALON & ELVAR: A barbarian/sword & sorcery duo ala Fafyrd (sp?) & Grey Mouser.

NIGHT GIRL becomes NOCTURNA: Lydda Jath, a vigilante huntress haunting the UP. Remember the old Power Girl/Huntress duo - Andromeda/Nocturna! Also why not have Lydda originate from the nightside nation of Kryofy from the planet Pasnic instead of Kathoon.

ALL-NEW WANDERERS: What if M'Onel, known for his solitary sojourns into deep space picked up a few allies along the way?
Calamity ~ Brita "Kono" An'nan of Sklar with 'luck' powers (gifted/cursed by the Luck Lords?)
Celebrand ~ An enigmatic mentalist/logician who would eventually betray the team and become an arch-foe to M'Onel.
Mandala ~ Deadly assassin who uses her complex 'thought-spheres' to pacify her targets before she kills them.
Typhoon ~ An updated Storm Boy with internalized weather-controlling powers. Also an homage to Cockrum's Outsider.
The Westerner ~ The frontiersman who gains his strength from the masses.

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I *really* like the Andromeda/Night Girl pairing reminiscent of Power Girl/Huntress... and Supergirl/Batgirl going even further back.

Maybe those two could be the founders of a 'new' SUBS?

DARTALON & ELVAR as a fantasy-based sword and sorcery duo is money! I've always been pretty bored by those two members of THE WANDERERS... this little snippet of a description makes me see them in a new way. Thanks.

As an ELEMENT LAD fan, I'm not too keen on grafting yet another hero into Jan... but I like a lot of your other ideas!

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Fun list, Miss T! A good mix of the familiar and the new. I liked the love interests - especially Evolvo's!

Is Dragonfly (Wildfire's love interest) Dawnstar?

I liked the Andromeda/Night Girl team-up, too - love those vigilantes! - it would be good to see various heroes operating outside of the Legion.

Also liked the character Re-Animage - talking with the dead - is that your own invention? - and the use of some magic/supernatural -based heroes.


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Fun list, Miss T! A good mix of the familiar and the new. I liked the love interests - especially Evolvo's!

Is Dragonfly (Wildfire's love interest) Dawnstar?

I liked the Andromeda/Night Girl team-up, too - love those vigilantes! - it would be good to see various heroes operating outside of the Legion.

Also liked the character Re-Animage - talking with the dead - is that your own invention? - and the use of some magic/supernatural -based heroes.
Dreamer Thank you Cramer! 'Dragonfly' is Shikari who may or may not have been DnA's reboot version of Dawnstar. Her similarities to Dawnstar include the infamous tracking sense and winged flight. Additionally, her last name is Lonestar.

However, there are enough differences between Dawny & Shikari to make them two separate characters, much like Princess Projectra & Sensor the half snake could be 2 different characters.

I can't seem to recall Re-Animage's exact powers from that 80s series and I typed up the 'talking with the dead' power to separate him from the 'healing powers' I gave Dawny. I don't recall him having those kinds of powers. I think the name Re-Animage is just too cool to forget, though. And Dartalon & Elvar are terrific, IMO!

As for magic users, White Witch is my favorite because of her ties to Nura so I had to use her.

Xao Jin is too valuable to lose because of his Asian ethnicity (racial diversity is important in the Legion, I think) but his powers duplicate the Witch's. So, since my intent was to take the current cast and build from there I decided Jin would fit better in Jan's body than Garth.

Zoe already had a magical origin.

And Val's 'weakness sense' is just meant to be a spiritual/new agey outreach of his martial skills. Dreamer

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Shikari=Dragonfly, of course - I'd read the list but forgot some of the details... makes sense with those dragonfly wings of hers. There has been some speculation here in the past as to whether the two winged ladies would be friends or rivals if they were on the same team... Thanks for the additional details!


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Dreamer Hey, gang!

Keep your eyes on the original post for updates &/or additions. I've made a few since the original posting, including adding 2 new (old?) characters!

Thanks Dreamer

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Dreamer I appreciate the responses I've received and I would love to hear more from other LMBers.

I tried to tie together any and all Legionnaires (past & present) and Legion allies into one Legion.

Perhaps people would like to discuss the theorized love interests?

Are adult codenames necessary and if so are there better ones?

Coffee klatch, people! Dreamer

P.S. Wonder if Waid is watching.

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I kinda liked the light powers for Spark in SB's Legion - but I want her to stick with electricity in-canon. And I wish we'd seen her adjust to Jarth - how'd she manage with him being so different? Can she manage this time because it's him & not her that was changed?

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Love your suggestions!

Though Tenzil's one of my favorites, I gotta disaree about him being a full time member. Maybe he can be a SUB? Or change his powers slightly, to that of being able to project his digestive juices? Heh... we can call him HURL. puke


Andromeda just seems redundant though with the other powerhouses around, such as M'onel, Ultra-Boy (Emerald Dragon?), Thunder and Impulse.

I'd go with the vigilante idea with her and Nightgirl. Maybe they could be the 31st century's Nightwing and Flamebird?

How about we try this:

Tsunami: Tayla Skott (formerly Lamprey)
Homeworld: Earth (Atlantis)
Powers: Can absorb moisture from the atmosphere and expel it as an offensive water blast. Can assume liquid form at will.
Love Interest: Wildfire or Sunburst.


Anime: Somi Gan (formerly Life Lass)
Homeworld: Lallor
Powers: Can animate images (photos, cartoons, etc) making them solid and three dimensional at will.


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Dreamer Hey, great ideas, Firebow!

I agree that Lamprey needs to be reworked and I love the 'Tsunami' idea!

Anime is just about the coolest codename idea, ever!

Questions: How functional would her power be in combat? Maybe she carries Lallorian tarot cards?
Would this power be better used for a human 'Projectra' character?

Great input Firebow! Dreamer

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I like the tarot card idea! Maybe she can have sort of a 'Lallorian Gypsy' look?

I agree, this would work for Projectra's new powers better than the 'Karma' powers would. That way they aren't that much of a stretch from the old ones.

I still like the Anime name though....


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I like the idea of Jenni and Brek as a couple. They could use a little lovin' and they both have that boy/girl next door personality.

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I love the list! The only thing I would really change there is to transform Kinetix back to her original self. Spark's light-based powers are a good idea, though for racial diversity I'd add Amp Girl in and give her the light powers, and keep the electricity for Ayla. Or maybe give Amp Girl some other kind of powers, since her current ones are pretty horrible.

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Your brother convinced you of Sunburst? Who is your brother cause I might know him!

Great ideas Miss T! I like most of them. Andromeda/Nocturna being pals is cool for the same reasons everyone here stated.

I like bringing is Dawnstar with some different powers and being a love interest of TimberWolf.

Not so keen on all the name changes but I like most.

I would make Dragonmage inherit the Starheart from Alan Scott. But your GL Celeste is pretty cool as well.

Also like that it has so many members. It's the Legion after all.

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Great discussion Miss T. I like the Andromeda-Night Girl/Nocturna idea, So many people liked Andromeda, but I think there are enough Kryptonian-like powers in the Legion. Evolvo's love interest made me laugh, though I am generally puzzled by the desire to delve into the sexuality of so many characters.

I wonder with all the mystical characters when/if there will be a convergence of Science and Magic. It seems like the New Gods have mostly done this.

I always thought the biggest problem writers have had with Dreamer was that they could basically have her sitting around the HQ waiting for a precog flash so it's hard to justify bringing her along on a mission. Maybe some short term precognitive abilities would help(and I think they have been hinted at in the past, I just started reading again recently). Try fighting someone who knows what you are going to do a split second before you do it. As long as she has to focus for it to work, it wouldn't take away the possibility of surprising her, but it would come in handy in a fight or an espionage situation. With a power like that she would even be able to hold her own with Ultra or M'Onel in a short fight (granted eventually their strength and speed would probably win out) It would also help to make up for the fact that about every other long term prediction she has is "misinterpreted" .

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This board is always so awesome for ideas and opinions, I really really hope that Waid is reading some of this stuff.


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