Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes The DnA Poll 2021

I'm aware he wrote issue 34 - did he expect that it was going to lead to more Legion gigs?

No, that was the point. He figured with only having one issue, they wouldn't let him do anything that had a consequential effect on one of the characters, and was surprised that they agreed to it. But, of course, it turned out not to be consequential at all since that version of the Legion ended a few months later.

Wow! "Should have stayed longer" is currently in the lead!

Even though I voted for "After Legion Lost v1", I also love it when polls go in an unpredictable direction.

Oof, looks like I may have been thinking with some nostalgia blinders when I originally commented, because I had forgotten about some of the absolutely dismal stuff that has been brought up in this thread.

Sneckie's 'evolution' was unnecessary and terrible. The Ra's stuff dragged on for too long. I wasn't a huge fan of reinventing Universo as Imra's cousin, but I did overall like that arc. I love the superpowered baby trope, so the Cub stuff didn't grate on me, but the pointless drama in Jo and Tinya's marriage did.

As a huge fan of big scifi shows like Star Trek, I did like how large the Legion felt towards the end, with Legion World and the Academy making a comeback. It was a really interesting concept I wish was expanded on more. So I stand by my original vote, that they should have stayed on longer, but I can admit their run was by no means perfect.

I voted should have stayed longer....there was a lot of meh stuff but I would have liked to see it progress somewhere, and overall I do feel like the series had a distinct identity of its own that I was enjoying more than not.

So in the words of Dale Cooper, "when two separate events occur simultaneously pertaining to the same object of inquiry, we must always pay strict attention."

While it's not exactly simultaneous, it's pretty close. We have this discussion happening and when moving my comics collection to my new house, I happened to open one box of several (the lightest one with the fewest contents) and what was staring me in the face? The DnA issues.

So once the move is completed, I'm gonna re-read the whole thing again. I am personally going to focus on how things feel between issues 15-18 or so, after MM was removed from the book (basically when the masthead logo changes).

But I appreciate folks like CA calling me on the carpet. And I'll be happy to eat crow if warranted.

I enjoyed pretty much all of their run so I voted for more.

The winnah, by a mile -- "Should Have Stayed Longer!"

This has been a very educational -- and, to reiterate, a refreshingly unpredictable -- poll.

My thanks to all who participated.

So I had a conversation today and I'd like to change my vote to "Should have stayed longer"

Interesting. Could you please elaborate, GL?

I can promise that when the time is right I can share a four hour discussion about it.

I can be patient when I need to.

I voted After Legion of the Damned/Widening Rifts. If there was a skip Legion Lost option I would have voted that. I didn't like the Element Lad/Progenitor as mass murderer aspect of Legion Lost.

What I remember of the DnA run is that they always started off great, but none of their stories ever had a satisfactory ending. They were great with the buildup, but awful with the payoff at the end.

^Agree with that! A lot of the story endings simply didn't hit the right emotional highs for me.

It's been awhile since I've read it other than LL but in general I'd say I enjoyed all of their stuff.

I'm rereading Legion Lost as we speak here, and honestly, its like sifting through glass shards for me to get through.

I don't like the art - early Coipel is NOT my thing and early Alixe aping early Coipel plus Lanning's heavy handed inks = nothankyou.

The story is OK and well told, extremely internally consistent, but it is about two issues too long (its just set up for a year and the "one character focus a month" approach), dragging around the Singularity section.

It's a good SciFi story, but just an OK Legion story. The problem is the Characters, the characters, the characters. We get the "out of control Imra" "lovestruck Ultra Boy" and "Bitch Umbra" tropes all together as if nothing had progressed over five years of stores. The only characters that I ended up not hating were either marginal (Cham), new (Wildfire & Shikari) or killed off.

I also remember I hated the whole Progenitor nonsense. Was that DnA? I didn't like that development at all.

Correct, Progenitor is Jan Arrah. I was also not a fan of this or him killing Candi. I wonder if getting rid of Candi was because of her being too similar to a couple Marvel characters?

GL, I never thought of that, but it sure makes a lot of sense. It's a good thing I love the Legion, because while there is a lot of great stuff, there's a significant amount of crap as well.

aka the life of a Legion fan.

I have mixed feelings about the whole Jan/Candi developments.

I can't deny that DNA were the ones who made me love Candi, as opposed to just like. Of course, they did it so her death would be a bigger gut punch. It worked, and they wrote her well before her death.

Jan's fate: at least on my first read, it held. It made sense in a way, if I don't think too hard about it. And it sure was sad...

Ibby, you touched on the challenge with this book - its a great first read due to the dramatic beats. A re-read is fun because you get to see the little details that are the clues for the Saturn Girl reveal, but it also exposes a lot of problems with the book. For example, Jan is more of a chemist than a transdimensional astrophysicist, and I don't care how long he had to live to figure out how to get the equations right without a computer in one try. That's a Brainiac 5 thing.

As more of a classic Legion fan, I've always found some of the Reboot characters hard to get a grip on, but Candi has, at least in the books I've read, had the most compelling and fun characterization. Particularly on a team so full of people having drama, she was a breath of fresh air, just sort of cheering up the room with her sunny disposition and welcoming nature (which made me, as a reader, feel welcomed!).

I was annoyed at her death, to not even advance another characters story, but to instead destroy that character! (Kind of the opposite of fridging, in that the lady doesn't die to advance the dude's story, but to instead tear him down and show how unredeemably bad he was now).

On the other hand, regarding Candi's upbeat and pleasant personality being a breath of fresh air, Gates' curmudgeonry was also fun, if the exact opposite and not at all a breath of fresh air!

As much as I love Kid Quantum 2, I feel like she didn't get nearly as much personality or development as Candi or Gates (or Shikari or Kinetix or XS, who also seemed to get a bit of focus, as opposed to characters like GEAR and Thunder, who did not, that I saw).

On a 'Legion of One World' composed of characters that *don't* appear in every continuity (like the Founders and Brainy, etc.), Candi would totally rate as someone unique to one version of the Legion, but also fun to have on any team!