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Lash, actually I don't think Luthor has been around in the Superman titles at all. I get them all, but to be honest, I only breeze through them since I feel the Superman titles haven't been good since the mid-90's, when they were the BEST thing DC had going. Maybe with Gail Simone coming on, I'll enjoy them, but I have to put up with Byrne's art, in the aftermath of Byrne really getting on my nerves these days.

The latest Titans was great, and Superboy going nuts was kinda scary indeed. I can't help but feel that Connor's days might be numbered, with this new crisis coming and Supergirl back, and the possibility existing of the Legion being connected to Superboy, Supergirl and Power Girl (meaning, the really Superboy might return).

What will be heartbreaking is the reactions of Wonder Girl and especially Robin if this comes to pass.

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Did Wonder Girl suddenly grow leaps and bounds in this issue or what? I'm not quite sure how, but her 'anger lightning' power snapped Superboy back to himself for awhile, until Lexy uttered his Latin code words again. Where's Zatanna when you need her? A little lobotomy would've hit the spot right about then.

Enjoyable issue-- the kids who used to be YOUNG JUSTICE showed that they care about each other just the way other groupings of TEEN TITANS have. I liked the Tim/Nightwing dialogue about the Teen Titans fighting for each other till the fight's won. (Unless your last name is Wilson, apparently...)

Wasn't OUTSIDERS supposed to come out this week as well? I didn't get a copy-- did anyone else?

"Anger-Lightning"? Is Cass turning into Lady Palpatine or something now?

If Zeus = Emperor, then I guess so. It seems as though the lightning is an attribute of her father that Cassie has inherited. (At least if you assume the lasso's powers are merely a reflection of her inherent powers like with Diana's "truth" powers.)

This issue rocked! Cassie did indeed grow tremendously this issue, and her story remains very interesting. Non-readers of Wonder Woman should check it out to see even more b/t her and Ares--including him revealing who her father is in coming months.

I still can't help but feel Conners days are numbered, although probably not in 'Insiders' (sicne apparently he's in future covers). But with the Legion being connected to the DCU again, the upcoming crisis, etc., I think we might see the end of Kon-El and see Superman when he was a boy again.

That being said, I think the idea of Luthor creating Superboy to give Superman something he loves and take it away is genius! A very heart-wrenching twist for both Kal-El and Kon-El. Add in the two Brainiacs, and the idea that Indigo has been playing the Outsiders with Luthor since Graduation Day, and this is one major twist indeed!

And now I'm curious to see how Donna fits into it all. At least they gave a reason why she died in Graduation Day (Brainiac 8 looking to kill her).

Love seeing the robot early 80's Brainiac body!

Robin and Cassie's scene was very good, and their reactions to this are the most touching of all. Same with Raven's, given her history of betraying the Titans.

Even though Gar doesn't get major scenes, just having him there with the team is reassuring. With Cyborg on the shelf, he definately seems like the bridge b/t the current Titans and current Outsiders.

Maybe a Titans/Legion crossover is in the works, especially after the Titans just saw a different Legion? I think we all have to face the fact that DC wants this Legion interacting with the post-Crisis DCU now, so this isn't that far-fetched.

Oh, and the art was astoundingly beautiful this issue.

This issue rocked.
I was really pleased with the art in this issue.
I do wonder if the Crisis will see a change in the current team. Interesting thought on Conners days being numbered. I get the feeling that something is gonna happen.
I am intriqued about Donna and how the future seems to be in her hands.

"TEEN TITANS" 25 is sold out at my CBS !!

would have got it last week, but i was away on holiday, all the other comics that i get were all still available !! with MANY issues still on the shelves !!

i never thought of asking for a pull list ,the guy at the till said it sold out straight away !!

hopefully they may get some more .....

Matthew.

GREAT issue! DC needs to lock Matt Clark/Art Thibert in as McKone's replacements!

Where all this is going I can only imagine, though things are SOOOO good with both TT and OUTSIDERS, I *hate* to see some massive change coming...

I was actually unimpressed by this issue. It felt disjointed and incomplete in a number of places. What happened to all the Superman robots? Are we to believe that Cassie took them all out with her ricochet? I didn't read Graduation Day but if one of these things killed two Titans then how did they handle at least 35 (what I counted) if not more?

And how come Speedy (is that the name she's using?} didn't use a gag arrow like Oliver has used in the past? I thought they had brought down Luthor's defenses and when he said he took control of Connor by saying the magic words (did anyone else get what he said?) they should have tried to gag the SOB.

Finally the art, to me, left a bit to be desired. It felt too much like someone trying to outright copy Copiel and not come up with his own style. Very inconsistent to me. At least he didn't draw Donna Troy looking more like Zatanna than herself like D'Anada did in The Outsiders. Not that Clark drew her this issue, just saying the last page of The Outsiders left me wondering why Zatanna was racing home to the Titans.

I guess I'm going to have to say this book is on the bubble for me now. Art and story-wise.

Hey guys just found this on the DC boards!


WHY GEOFF, YOU TEASE!
GEOFF JOHNS is becoming notorious for teasing his fans with irresistable little bits of info that more often than not, have them racing to pick up more and more comics. Here are some random teases that bring out the inner geek in all of us wondering what'll happen in the DCU:

· (In reference to the Teen Titans series) "Coming up you'll see... Red Hood, Brother Blood, (Blood's new "mother"...heh, heh), an A-list DC bad guy, a new villain (and new team) and a team of villains mentioned here with a huge twist. Some of it pre-crisis-2, some post-crisis-2."

· "Major Duela Dent plans post-crisis-2."

· "Black Adam has an interesting role in Crisis...Not all is as it seems."

· "And we've got some kick ass plans for him Post-Crisis."

If you're not on Geoff's forum over at you're truly missing out on some good conversation and great "inside" info!

Bless that man!

Might he be referring to *this*...

TEEN TITANS/OUTSIDERS SECRET FILES 2005
Written by Geoff Johns, Marc Andreyko, Greg Rucka, and others
Art by Phil Jimenez, Kevin Nowlan, Ian Churchill and others
Cover by Tony Daniel
DC's hottest new teams collide in an explosive one-shot! Following the events of "The Insiders"crossover, a villain from the Titans' past returns with a plan for revenge on former Titans! Plus, what's the deal with the crazy Titan who calls herself the Joker's Daughter?
On sale August 31 o 64 pg, FC, $4.99 US

For more goodies that month, click the below...

http://www.legionworld.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=001119#000000

OH NO! RUN MAL! RUN!!!

If you follow the animated TITANS as well as the comic, follow this link:

http://titanstower.com/source/animated/00indexanimated.html

...and you'll see some of the characters scheduled to appear in the series' next season.

LOTS of surprises... good ones!

As for the comic... #26 apparently contains something that will make lots of us *very* happy... it's been spoiled on a couple of the comics news sites.

Would that be the news regarding Omen?

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Yup.

OH MY GOD!!!

I just read the news at Newsarama too! Omen/Lilith is coming back in issue #26?!? WOO-HOO! I can't beleive it! I never thought they'd undo the travesty that was her death in Degradation Day! So happy! So shocked! I take back all the bad things I said about your Titans Geoff Johns!

And I just saw your link re: the new characters in next season's 'Teen Titans Go' Mystery Lad. MAL!!! And Red Star! And Kole! And Bushido! And Killowat! And Gnnark! And Jericho!

WOW! So many good stories came out of DC today!

"You like me! You really, really LIKE me!!!"

Didn't they though? Here's what I remember as good n' juicy:

-a new BRAVE AND THE BOLD, written by Waid

-LEGION OF DOOM/VILLAINS UNLIMITED appearing on JLU cartoon next season

-LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES on JLU (I hope not as descendants of the previous grouping)

-TEEN TITANS cartoon guest-roster (though it seems odd having Gnaark without Lilith...)

-Red Hood in Teen Titans comic (could be good)

-Omen

-JSA, BOOSTER GOLD, HUNTRESS OF EARTH II action figures in 2006

-Mattel figures for VIXEN, etc

Hmmm... seems like I'm forgetting something...

Marvel's only annoucements that interested me were the scheduling of a new X-FACTOR growing out of Peter David's MADROX miniseries and the FANTASTIC FOUR CLASSIC action figure wave (possibly the place for CRYSTAL, MEDUSA, BLACK BOLT and the other INHUMANS as action figs??)

I'm halfway waiting for a 'July Fools' disclaimer...

Lilith coming back?! (jumps for joy) YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Kole appearing on the show? Yes!!! I Kole!

Kole?? She died during CRISIS, didnt she?

The first one, yes.

What??? When did the other Kole first appear?

There was a mysterious girl who looked exactly like Kole floating around in the background of the 'Team Titans' series for a short while before it was cancelled.

She was actually revealed to be a construct/pawn of Monarch (of Armageddon 2001) in the final issue but some fans cling to the hope that she may have been the real deal and may even still be out there. Their hopes were further spurred by a recent Titans Secret Files issue which listed Kole's status as Unknown instead of Deceased.

Personally, I really liked Kole, but her death was soooooo long ago and quite well done in a tragic sort of way that I kinda think they should let her stay dead. But I'd be a hypocrite to push that opinon anywhere after all my clamouring for the returns of Gim Allon in the reboot and Lilith here in the Titans.

Its amazing how many dead Titans have returned to life recently though - Lilith, Troia, Jericho, Golden Eagle, Dove II (ally), Jason Todd... I hope they're not just doing it to create more canon fodder in Infinite Crisis!