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That sounds very reasonable and makes sense, but I'm not sure I agree with it all (yet).
In issue 6, we see three distinct Earths (247, 462, and 898) that are in time periods not in the present like everywhere else. In the original Crisis, the red skies and antimatter were in many times, in this Crisis we've never seen anything outside the present. Yet on these pages there is the Old West (898), some sort of World War II JSA (462), and the Legion (247) - I interpreted that as those being present-day Earths just somehow time-shifted.
As for everyone returning to their home Earth, at Stonehenge you have Zatanna, whose father was from Earth-2; Jennifer Morgan, whose father has already been rebooted (even though he appears just to the right of the DC logo on the Perez cover); and Kyle Rayner and Firestorm in space, even though they would have been from Earth-8. So it's not a given that they return.
I'd say that between the TT/LSH Special and now, the Legion made their way out of Limbo and onto Earth-247 when the multiverse was recreated. Becuase they were outside the time stream, they didn't automatically go to their original post-ZH Earth.
In the "everyone return to the world you came from" scenario, XS would have been from Earth-1, where her grandparents Barry and Iris Allen were born and where her mother was conceived.
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Well, I'm going to repeat my complaint that the Adventure #247 reference makes no sense, since that particular Legion did not appear in Adventure #247. id suggest that this could be an alternate shikari finding an appropriatley alternate legion she was seperated from. not neccessarily connected to the legion we used to read.
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Considering the "continuity waves" that were rewriting history, "Jarth" being redrawn as Garth isn't really a big deal to me. It'd explain the reappearance of the Blight as well.
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I think we're overthinking this. I haven't yet read IC #6, but to my mind that panel was DC's way of saying, "The Shikari thing is now resolved. Let's move on, and don't sweat the details." Yes, it's annoying that they got some details wrong, and yes, I'll miss Shikari (among other Legionnaires not in the current series), but does anybody think it'd really *work* to have her come into the current series? I don't.
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Comic fans overthinking matters of continuity? That's just absurd! 
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Originally posted by Matthew E: Yes, it's annoying that they got some details wrong, and yes, I'll miss Shikari (among other Legionnaires not in the current series), but does anybody think it'd really *work* to have her come into the current series? I don't. Personally, I would have liked her as a "bridge" character. While her return provides resolution to the post-ZH Legion, it also deflates the very tantalizing ending of the Titans/Legion special. Oddly, while Jarth became robot-arm Garth again on Earth-247, Sensor was still in her altered state as half-snake, half-woman, suggesting it was not the effect of the timestream/Multiverse. Perhaps he transmuted himself and just decided the arm was cool bling. However it happened, I am grateful for both his and Jan's sake. It would have left a bad taste in my mouth if our very last glimpse of the post-ZH Legion had featured Jan's mobile corpse. Even if it wasn't the artist's conscious intent to make things right, he did.
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The way I look at it, she was a bridge character. For that one page at the end of the Titans/Legion Special. That page was the bridge. (Notice that it's only *implied* that the world that Shikari found is the same world that had Lyle jumping out the window. We could very well be cutting from world to world as we turn away from the Shikari page.) And we don't need a bridge anymore; we've got sixteen (so far) solid issues to stand on.
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Id say that its implied the Preview is not the reality the series takes place in. If only because both we the reader and Lyle see Violet on panel.
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Yeah, well. That's another detail I wouldn't sweat. If it's not the reality of the new series then why show it to us?
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i agree, Matthew E. i'm really tired of seeing "not in continuity" legionnaires and stories. it really dilutes this current series and any import it may have.
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I take it as the Shikari subplot wrapped up and Superboy Prime's punching the reboot Jarth back to normal. Chalk up a plus for the reboot Legion and Infinite Crisis!
Other minor matters go to my favorite explanation ever, Superboy Prime gyrating his hips on continuity (thanks Tamper!).
Besides all that, it was a nice little glimpse at the reboot Legion for fans and at least an attempt at closure for Shikari. I, for one, am thrilled she won't be in the threeboot.
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I loved Shikari, so I'd appreciate her inclusion into ANY Legion timeline. I feel the same about Gates and XS too, of course.
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I don't have anything against Shikari appearing, per se, but I'd rather have a re-imagined version of her rather than a leftover of the old continuity.
Oddly enough, I'd prefer a Quislet who remembers past continuities...
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That Earth 462.... the blonde was Wonder Woman from some tv movie. It was Denise Crosby? and she had the blonde hair. You can also see Wonder Girl outfit that made it to tv in the Wonder Woman tv series. I can also make out a version of Flash and a firefighter looking Robin. Also it seems like alot of DCs Nazi bad guys made it to that earth.
And I agree with Michael that Perez did that page.
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Originally posted by rtvu2: That Earth 462.... the blonde was Wonder Woman from some tv movie. It was Denise Crosby? and she had the blonde hair. That was Cathy Lee Crosby. Sounds interesting. Unfortunately, I won't get to the CBS till at least Sunday. 
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Well, I got part of the name right...anyone want to venture a guess why that was Earth 462? How about the western or the Generations earths?
I get Earth 97 for the Tangent kids.
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">I see Shikari, Kid Quantum II, Cosmic Boy, Karate Kid, Spark, Saturn Girl, Chameleon, M'Onel, Gates, Ultra Boy, Wildfire, Live Wire (strangely with robotic arm), Star Boy, Dreamer Umbra, Sensor, Validus, Emerald Eye, and what I believe is a Dodo form the Blight storyline</span></span> and Persuader...
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Originally posted by rtvu2: That Earth 462.... the blonde was Wonder Woman from some tv movie. It was Denise Crosby? and she had the blonde hair. You can also see Wonder Girl outfit that made it to tv in the Wonder Woman tv series. I can also make out a version of Flash and a firefighter looking Robin. Also it seems like alot of DCs Nazi bad guys made it to that earth.
And I agree with Michael that Perez did that page. It was definately Perez! Whenever I see him do a page in this series its as cheer-worthy of seeing something happening in the story!
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Amen to that, Brother!
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Originally posted by superboymddjr: Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: [b]<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">I see Shikari, Kid Quantum II, Cosmic Boy, Karate Kid, Spark, Saturn Girl, Chameleon, M'Onel, Gates, Ultra Boy, Wildfire, Live Wire (strangely with robotic arm), Star Boy, Dreamer Umbra, Sensor, Validus, Emerald Eye, and what I believe is a Dodo form the Blight storyline</span></span> and Persuader...[/b]What? Is Vi invisible? And who is the blond with the dark (blue?) outfit and skirt? She's between Cos and Garth, under the platform. I know she's someone but I can't quite place her.
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Gee, thanks, Scooter. You should know how much I've tried to block that incarnation of Violet out of my mind. Anyway, I kind of thought the blonde could be a miscolored and back-to-normal Kinetix, but I wasn't sure.
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Are you referring to Sensor? If not, I don't see any blonde. BTW, notice the first appearance of Reboot Chlorophyll Kid right next to Dreamer! 
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She's flying in the background, wearing a skirt, kind of between Cos and Garth. About the same distance as Sensor, I'd say.
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Oh. Ha, I see her now.
It can only be Kinetix, restored to her original self, albeit miscolored with Blonde hair. I'll pretend its her normal again. The number '247' must have magical properties that does great things!
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Her transformation into a blonde could be one last nod to her ever-changing appearance!
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