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Thank for the scans. I just have one question.

Is the infamy surrounding Tyroc true?

Based on my 3Boot EL page here . Trom's fate was never discussed during the Wak years. I don't recall Shooter adding anything to Jan besides his stinky pet and his rebound girlfriend after the Trips disappeared.

Thanks, Gar. I just had this idea percolating... if there were other Tromians with Jan's abilities in the Prime uni, the Prime Legion could get another transmuter, OR Brainy Prime could conceivably work out time travel from his exposure to the other Brainy's and they'd travel back to the present universe of E-P and train a Tromian to housesit SBP... That's why I was curious as to what the actual ACT #850 ref was...

Here's Gym'll's Who's Who page -



Notice he has four arms above. Just like in his first appearance -



And to make life easy for me, here's the pages used to explain the name "Dr.Gym'll's Cultural Rarities."
Notice that Giffen always drew him with three arms -

I don't understand the question...but here are some resources -

Tyroc at Wikipedia

Tyroc at Major Spoilers

What I meant was, is it true that most of the people involved with creating Tyroc are embarrassed by him?

According to LEGION COMPANION, Mike Grell was. Don't know what Cary Bates thinks about him.

Well, according to the information, I fail to understand why the editors kept blocking the writers efforts to add black Legionnaires until they HAD to create Tyroc.

Many people want to believe that omission of black characters in American comics was something of an oversight, a sign of the times, or just reflective of the larger culture. It was deliberate choice during the 60's, when the Legion headlined Adventure Comics. DC editorial was afraid that comics with black characters would be pulled from the shelves of stores in parts of America, specifically in the South. That would have impacted sales. It was a very conscious racist business decision. Remember, this was the era in which some network affiliates refused to air Star Trek episodes because of an interracial kiss.

Was this the same era that I Spy came into existence?

Let's be clear on dates here:

Star Trek ran from 1966-69; I Spy from 1965-68.

Tyroc made his debut in 1976.

The comics industry, however, has always been behind the times in reflecting cultural changes. This is not the same as pop culture fads such as disco or kung fu movies, which have a way of creeping into comics much sooner. But significant social and political changes take longer. Well into the '70s, most super-hero teams still had only one token female, for example.

Tyroc was, in my opinion, an attempt to be "relevant" by creating a black character, but his creators and company probably had little idea how to actually go about creating such a character. They relied on popular stereotypes: the disco costume with chains, the angry young black attitude. It is probably because of these stereotypes that Tyroc became an embarrassment to DC and all but vanished from Legion stories after his first three appearances.

The third appearance, by the way, was an egregious example of bad taste. The cover of SUPERBOY # 222 shows Superboy and Ultra Boy flying with a manacled and gagged Tyroc--hardly an image conducive to race relations of the time.

Was the racism intentional? Perhaps, perhaps not. But it was a very real, ingrained aspect of American culture, and DC blunderingly made it worse in their misguided attempt to make it better.

Thank you all for the insight and the in-depth explanations.

Um, okay, moving on from that...

Does anyone have any scans of when the Legionnaires switched powers in Adventure Comics #361.

Notice the writer confused Phantom Girl with Duo Damsel. Or maybe the artist did?!?

Thanx. Hmm, I wonder why they never thought to include Ultra Bouncing Boy in the "Different Body Types" museum exhibit.

thanks, Gary!

Okay, one more time, does anyone have any scans of, um, Myg and Polecat when they were brainwashed by the Dominators?

Any idea roughly which issue that was. If you have some idea, I'll dig them out.

that would have been around v.4 39-40ish.

Got them - pages 6-14 of #40.

Give me an email address and I'll send you JPEGs.

Anyone got images of Imsk? The planet proper, or a cityscape, or some other view of what it looks like from the ground?

Just about any version would do, though Threeboot's snowglobe-sized take isn't much help to me. (Unless it's, y'know, bigger than a snowglobe.)

Just looking for a jumping-off point, as usual. I'm not proud.

Imsk was featured in an issue of LSH in which some of the Legionnaires went with Vi to Imsk to help with the harvesting of the Space Dragons scales. I think they also battled Micro Lad in that issue, portrayed as a terrorist sort.

I'll send the email address later, thanx, but now I have a question.

When did Marella Tao date Timber Wolf?

Didn't it start around #30 of the Baxter run?

Pre-boot Imsk, from LSH #305: