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So are they going to *DE*-Boot the Legion now?
#4452 04/28/07 02:28 AM
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Cause, the JSA thing actually annoys the Hell out of me rather than makes me happy. I've invested a lot of money in the current Legion because I was glad to see the DCU committing itself to the Legion of superheroes once more.

Now, the first crossover with the modern DCU and its the Old Legion? What's the point of making a new Legion if suddenly Superman met an entirely different Legion? WAY TO MARGINALIZE THE LEGION here guys!

Is the Supergirl of the future even the DCU's supergirl or is she a phoney like Power Girl? I know everyone else is ectastic about the old guys showing up but I for one am more than a little annoyed that after defending the New Legion every which way from Sunday...

Even the authors at DCU don't seem to want to work with them.


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I'm one of the ones happy about the "old guys" showing up, but I think it's too extreme to say that they're marginalizing the Legion. I mean, there have been a *lot* of different versions of the Legion, what's wrong with checking in on some of the other eras sometimes?

The current version of the Legion seems to be the one that will appear in Brave and Bold, so they're not exactly gone.

The more Legions the better, I say!

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#4454 04/28/07 03:51 AM
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I just think it makes the current Legion "less real." This is supposedly the Legion of the future but apparently Superman received much of his inspiration from an entirely different Legion.

It's sorta crazy.

It also makes the current Legion to be less relevant. Its probably a good thing that Kon-El is dead because he'd probably remember another Legion still. If they're going to have a Legion comic then it should be the Legion comic used in pretty much most events.

They should just De-Boot the current Legion as an alternate and make it a two year mini-series. Maybe this was "Year One" and "Year Two" of the Old Legion.


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Multiple versions don't bother me. To have the original Legion back is exciting - more than I would have thought - but I would be unhappy to see the current Legion just wiped out, as DC has done with previous versions. Someone at DC is probably crunching some numbers about which version would sell more books.

I don't know what Supergirl is supposed to be; we'll probably find out eventually. Meltzer, in the Word Balloon interview at Newsarama, said that the Legion Supergirl has absolutely nothing to do with the Lightning Saga story - but whether he meant she won't be part of the same universe as JLA/JSA, or that she just won't be in the story wasn't explained.


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They killed Barry Allen. They killed Kara. They can kill this "Legion" and it will hardly blip on the historical radar screens of comic or even Legion history. It was never a grand seller nor seemed to have any pertinent affect. If the writers can memorably and heroically kill this Legion in a way that has lasting affects it will be the best memorial they could give it, the best way to sell graphic novels that have already been published, and maybe even set up a scenario in which the occasional flashback story to this version might even be interesting. They could call it "Ghost of the Worst Legion Ever."

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Imagine the distress preboot fans felt after they had invested 30 years of their fanhood into LSH stories that were whited out. And then fans of the postboot, with a decade-plus, eradicated.

And then fans like me who have stuck with it through thick and thin.

At this point, I don't care what version of the LSH is considered valid by the alleged PTB, I just want to *LIKE* the Legion again!


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ps/ thank goodness for the 'toonverse LSH!


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Well I prefer this legion over the last one. Oddly, they're MORE adult than the previous Legion and they also have a legitimate cause (fighting against stifling bureaucracy and resignment)

I loved the old Legion too but this lack of loyalty just ticks me off.


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If an old legion back in the dc universe.. is a complete different legion..?
or is the legion of Superboy's pocket universe legion ?
or the Glorith version with Valor & Laurel Gand?
I'll wait for a new legion based in the old legion (without killing Karate Kid of course, and all the members lost: Ferro Lad, Matter Eater Lad, Blok, White Witch, Tyroc, Chemical King, Spider Girl,Veilmist)
But please don't kill more favorites ones.
If the writers want to kill heroes: Kill Monstress, Kinetix, Kono, XS, Cub, Gates, Lori Morning, Sensor, Thunder and more....


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Disregarding the upcoming "Brave and the Bold" storyline, of course, there is the remote possibility that this Legion really is just in Supergirl's head.

I mean, that's a trap door they could use.

I'll honestly say that the fight against bureaucratic parents who instant message their coworkers even though they're standing right in the room next to them may be the biggest yawner and the most boring villain concept I have ever experienced in a comic book.


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It's an idea about contrasting the legion's bright cheery optimism with a society of lowered expectations/endless compromises. The problem is people think its a generation war.

More, it seems to be a revolt against the apathy of Office Space and Clerks except with less swearing.

But how would they go about De-booting the Legion if they do? How would they introduce the Old Era Legion?


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But how would they go about De-booting the Legion if they do? How would they introduce the Old Era Legion?
They already HAVE, no? Spinning out of a JLoA/JSoA crossover when they're pretty much DC's two top-selling monthlies would seem to make financial sense. Given a reasonably well-known creative team, they would probably start with over double the "threeboot" sales and probably settle higher than a book which is only over 30k because it has "Supergirl" in the title.


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I confess. Given the universal loathing of "bad" Supergirl, why do they keep writing Bad Girl Supergirl in her own title?


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Originally posted by Charles Phipps:
I confess. Given the universal loathing of "bad" Supergirl, why do they keep writing Bad Girl Supergirl in her own title?
Because it keeps selling. People may complain, but until sales drop, there won't be a change.

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If the writers want to kill heroes: Kill Monstress, Kinetix, Kono, XS, Cub, Gates, Lori Morning, Sensor, Thunder and more....
Grr....they better NOT kill Gates, XS, Danielle Foccart, Monstress, Kono!!! because we need more alien looking/non-humaniod races in the Legion! and need more black female legionnaires!

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I sure hope so,But I think of it more as a revival since the Legion (1958-1985)has been missing for over 20 years now.

It sure would be nice to be able to say Long Live the Legion again.


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Grr....they better NOT kill Gates, XS, Danielle Foccart, Monstress, Kono!!! because we need more alien looking/non-humaniod races in the Legion! and need more black female legionnaires!
Well, with all due respect, I think we need more Legionaires of Earth based ethnicity before we need to fill them with a bunch of aliens. Besides we've got Mon'el, Supergirl, and Superman for aliens.

;-)


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[b]I confess. Given the universal loathing of "bad" Supergirl, why do they keep writing Bad Girl Supergirl in her own title?
Because it keeps selling. People may complain, but until sales drop, there won't be a change.[/b]
good point. if I don't like a book, I stop buying it. I have read a lot of negative comments about Supergirl and yet the book is still selling. go figure.

when my Legion gets rebooted, I will give the originals a try. but if I don't like it, and/or if I am still peeved about being misled as to the nature of the current book I will turn away without a second look.

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Well, if they do Deboot the Legion then I'm hoping that they make a little nod towards the current lineup.

Say it's "untold adventures of the Legion of Superheroes"


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I thought I saw on newsarama or somewhere that the story of the Lightning Saga Legion is supposed to spin into Countdown when the JLA/JSA teamup is over.

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Originally posted by EmeraldEmpress:
If the writers want to kill heroes: Kill Monstress, Kinetix, Kono, XS, Cub, Gates, Lori Morning, Sensor, Thunder and more....
What's wrong with Thunder? I liked her. A decidely different fun twist on the Shazam mythos.(But then again, I'm a BIG Shazam fan so I'm admittedly biased laugh )

So.....if the Multiverse is back.....or at least there are 52 other universes out there.....then each universe has it's own Legion??

And does this mean Superboy is now back in contuinity? (Clark, not Conner, that is)


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I think they're going with "The Adventures of Superman....as a teen!"

like on the television show.


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I think they're going with "The Adventures of Superman....as a teen!"

like on the television show.

What's Countdown supposed to be about anyway?


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What's Countdown supposed to be about anyway?
Stuff blows up.

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