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True. And she didn't catch a break in either of the reboots. Since they never used her again.
Actually, I think Tellus' real name was Ganglios.
I meant Terrus, the guy dressed like a Jonathan Crane fan who joined the LSV during the Eye For An Eye story.
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I haven't a clue about Terrus. But, I loved the Kara in the Superman/Aliens crossover with Darkhorse a few years ago. It ended with Superman thinking she's dead and Kara rocketing off into space. I'd love to see THIS Kara get a chance with an elseworld Legion that has more of a Bugforce look and feel to it. The darker Legion would be more along the lines of a French Foreign Legion ~ a private military of misfits who serve in a horrible rescue business and are without much hope, until Kara arrives. I can see: Brainy as the automitron/science coordinator, Umbra as the dihonored and exiled planetary champion, a shadowrealm nexus/fighter, Jo Nah as an ex-gang member (there's a stretch) with the same powers he has now, Phantom as a misfit/outcast mutant caught between two realities, Chameleon as the weird & hated shapeshifter, Sizzler who's the youngest and there as a lowly caste servant with powers that she's just growing into, Nura as the precog fighter and field leader with Val, her man, as the greatest weapons expert and fighter in the lost end of Bug hunting. Brande is the company owner and the one who sends them out on their missions, usually at tge galaxy's ends, cleaning up colony or ship infestations ala Aliens. Triad is the medic and carries the forcefield belt used for transport and protection. Kara crashes onto a quarantined world and smack into a running fight like the one she left on Argo. She's not Kryptonian but discovers that she has powers almost as great as Kal's. On her voyage, she went through a wormhole in space and time. The energies involved have altered her DNA in much the same way as the Fantastic Four experienced in the Marvel Universe, resulting in her powers being very similar to Kal's. Anyway, that's the idea that just sprang from my head like Athena from Zeus. haha Lovely thread. I don't understand most of the exchanges but I certainly like many of the ideas (and the writing).
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Hmmmmmm...
Tell me, Sizzler, is she that rejected applicant or is she supposed to be Ayla?
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I vote for an angry Ayla seeking revenge for her murdered brothers.
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And later we could find out that one of her brothers is still alive and responsible for killing the other.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
But we don't find out WHICH brother it is.
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So, we've heard an idea for a Legion of the Bat, but what would a Legion inspired by the third member of the 'Trinity,' Wonder Woman, look like?
Amazon Legion, anyone?
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Coo000lll. So... Kal was an alien who could "leap over tall buildings" and never became the galactic inspiration for Xenophilia, Bruce was an "urban legend" and may or may not occupy a niche in folklore and they both remained minor players, their work was obscured by Diana who became an inspiration to women for over a thousand years. A Legion dominated by the fems where the classic sexist quote is, "Mordru was defeated by a boy!" That would be so much fun to write. Tack on Adam Hughes to draw it and it'd outsell almost everything on the market .. except maybe another X-Men swimsuit issue.
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Well, how bout if the Legion was more like Young Justice, or the Teen Titans trinity. We'd have Rokk as Robin, Garth as Superboy, and Imra as a Wonder Girl type.
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Originally posted by Fat Cramer: Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: [b]Batman: Legion *A world where the Legion was inspired by Batman instead of Superman. I'm amazed this one was never done. It could be a noir Legion, or just have them focus more on detective work than brute superpowers.[/b]Cool idea! Maybe they'd also operate in the shadows, becoming something more like a secret society.(the initiations would be pretty cool) They might even all wear masks...
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And of course they would have secret identities, which would render moot the question of why supervillains have never bothered to attack their families. Sometimes.
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FWIW, I did read a "Legion of the Bat" fanfic once, over at the Geocities boards. It wasn't half-bad.
If you were gonna' write one about Wonder Woman as LSH inspiration, you'd want to tie it closely together with the history of Naltor. (In the Levitz Era, Dream Girl and White Witch were the daughters of the High Seer, and the planet was matrilineal.) Maybe there'd be a long-term connection with the matriarchs from the Nal sisters' homeworld, the Amazons and the Legion.
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Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: And of course they would have secret identities, which would render moot the question of why supervillains have never bothered to attack their families. Sometimes. And, naturally, in a 'Legion of the Bat,' the grizzled old soldier R.J. Brande would take on the role of that Batman takes on at the end of The Dark Knight, forsaking the cowl and bending his energies to training a new generation...
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Thought up a better version of that Black Orchid idea.
Black Orchid: In Black & White *Suzy Black is an innocent schoolgirl who is thrown into the dark, adult world, all the while maintaining her innocence when solving the question of...
"Who Killed the Black Orchid?"
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My brother came up with this one.
*What if the Joker finally became sane?
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I can't see how that could work. I think the Jokester was a bit of a play on that concept but his story was too tragic to work well. A sane Joker could only look at his past actions and judge himself beyond help..as I perceive it.
Of course (as always) it depends on what a writer does in the way of setting up the background and the supporting characters. Could the Joker become the anti-hero that beats the stuffing out of Lex Luthor and the Parasite? Could he bring down Bane or Ras al Ghul and team up with Nightwing?
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I'd have to ask my brother, he came up with the idea.
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Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: My brother came up with this one.
*What if the Joker finally became sane? Maybe it could be called 'Redemption' or 'Enlightenment'? Maybe the final words of his last victim somehow touch him and he has an epiphany(sp), and trys to work out his redemption, perhaps not for himself but for that last person he killed. There'd be so many ways you could go with that idea! How would the Joker even know what was right to do? Would he take a memtor or a hero to copy? Who would help? Try to drag him back? Not believe him? Could he change even though he now knows he's evil? In the right hands that could be a very powerful story.
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As always Candice, you're brilliant.
In the 3boot there was a moment where Shadow Lass announced that she was interested in the leadership. I believe that we here at Legionworld were responsible for that moment and I'm very proud of it. I have to wonder how that would have changed the Legion in the last dozen issues.
So, what if Shadow Lass led the Legion through Jim Shooter's run?
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Great question! I bet she wouldn't have signed the contract with the U.P., or being something of a world leader herself, she would have been a lot more careful than Lightning Lad was. So they wouldn't have gotten all their funding, their fancy new HQ, and would have been more hard-edged and scrappy. The storyline would have gone in an entirely different direction. since they'd still be somewhat in opposition to the U.P. and wouldn't have any money.
And I really like the Joker goes sane idea. It would be (should be) a very complex story.
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(snip) Yellow Kid:
So, what if Shadow Lass led the Legion through Jim Shooter's run? Errr... from what I gather it would have involved either evil or some veiled, uh... romantic dysfunction. Or possibly both.
I definitely preferred warrior Shady to quiet little I'm-nothing-without-Mon-El Shady-- except for the goofy near-crotchless hot pants look. But I'd gathered from this space and others that quite a number of readers had misgivings about the way Shooter wrote female characters.
Oh, and the Joker (aka "Spring-Heeled Jack") isn't exactly sane in this story , but he is working for the good guys. FWIW. I love this story, myself.
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Originally posted by Candle: Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: [b] My brother came up with this one.
*What if the Joker finally became sane? Maybe it could be called 'Redemption' or 'Enlightenment'?
Maybe the final words of his last victim somehow touch him and he has an epiphany(sp), and trys to work out his redemption, perhaps not for himself but for that last person he killed.
There'd be so many ways you could go with that idea! How would the Joker even know what was right to do? Would he take a memtor or a hero to copy? Who would help? Try to drag him back? Not believe him? Could he change even though he now knows he's evil?
In the right hands that could be a very powerful story. [/b]Thanks you guys. These are all wonderful ideas. Makes me glad I started this thread.
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In a departure from our exchange of ideas, did anyone ever read Supergirl: Wings?
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Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid:
*What if the Joker finally became sane? I'm not sure if this applies but this week's Brave and Bold cartoon has The Red Hood teaming up with Batman. By the opposite universe's standards Joker is just as nuts as always but by ours the Red Hood is a pretty decent guy. At least he's a good guy in a world ruled by the villains.
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I got an idea...actually working on the story now....
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