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Originally posted by Jesse Future: None of the five or so out now have appealed to me enough to buy them. 5? Jesse, you give the Marvel editorial staff WAY too much credit. Here's just December: ASTONISHING X-MEN #8 X-MEN/FANTASTIC FOUR #1 X-MEN #165 UNCANNY X-MEN #453 X-MEN: THE END DREAMERS AND DEMONS #6 X-FORCE #5 EXCALIBUR #8 SABRETOOTH #4 X-MEN UNLIMITED #6 WOLVERINE #23 CABLE/DEADPOOL #10 MYSTIQUE #22 NEW X-MEN #8 NIGHTCRAWLER #4 GAMBIT #5 ROGUE #6 EXILES #55, #56, & #57 ULTIMATE X-MEN EMMA FROST JUBILEE MADROX DISTRICT X That's not even counting the trade collections or Ultimate Nightmare & Secret! I know I can be <slightly> negative when it comes to Marvel & DC's superhero output, but I do think that Marvel in particular has done very little to garner any support from me, and I'm <slightly> bitter over how much money I've already given them over the decades for boxes of colored paper that are probably worth more as donations to charity. X-Statix was a really great book - one I took great pleasure in reading and savoring - and I think the creators wanting to move on speaks more the level of creative interference they were suddenly experiencing. IMO, the Princess Di storyline went all wrong with their sudden and awkward replacement star. Milligan and Alred are both artists who are probably not used to being over-ruled so cavalierly to the obvious detriment of the end-product. Not trying to contradict you or anything, I just think the company Marvel has to take some of the responsibility in the loss of this great series. That being said, I'd love LACUNA to be part of the Avengers or something. Maybe she could do her show from there?
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They definitely picked the right time although...
PREPARE YOUR STONES
although THEY MADE NO EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE HELL WAS GOING ON!!! That was BULL CRAP!
Okay, Milligan & Allred were over it (that was apparent immediately following 'Back from the Dead'), but couldn't they have had a twist as to WHO whacked X-Statix? It sure as hell wasn't just random terrorists! That doesn't explain Dead Girl's death, does it? And Doop had his BRAIN REMOVED and survived in the previous arc, a missile launched death ain't working for me.
Yes, it was all fun while it lasted but I really feel like they just gave us a 'FU' ending.
I am glad they all croaked. Not that that'll stop Rob Liefield from reviving and revising them for the upcoming 'Grim & Gritty' 90's style comic revival (mark my words, it's coming- five years away tops).
Okay, throw your stones.
I love Vol.4 Prepare your stones.
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No stone throwing allowed here. I can see where you would feel this way, easily.
But I kind of liked the whole "Does it matter?" vibe.
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I'll miss this book but it had a good run, I'm glad the creators got to decide the ending instead of the team fading into obscurity and then showing up as Red Shirts in a big crossover.
Too bad about Doop, tho. Would'a been cool for him to survive and stick around for odd cameos.
OTOH, I'm looking forward to the X-title Milligan is taking over, whichever one that is. Hopefully my shop will be smart enough to recommend it for my pull box.
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Whoops, sorry that I didn't seem clear before, Andy. I meant all the solo-character series/minis they're trying now...with the likes of Gambit, Jubilee, Nightcrawler, Rogue, etc. I'm nowhere near surprised by how many X-related titles there are...it's kind of a sad fact this day and age.  No worries about being negative...we all toss cash on books for longer than we probably would have liked to sometimes. X-Statix luckily never went that way for me. As for the people responsible for X-Statix's death...I have mixed feeling about it being from terrorists. On the one side, they've been some of the most constant forces the team has been idly whipping off-panel or as an aside to a characterization moment...it's kind of ironic for them to meet their end that way. Not to mention, the team never really was big on super-villains (save for a few rogue mutants & alien astronauts) so much. Then again on the other side, we didn't really have some big, grand challenge or threat take the team out. They finally just all got a bad card at the same time and that was that. I second the return of Lacuna somewhere! Great, great character, power, personality...everything!
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Comics reading just isn't as kewl without my monthly dose of X-Statix.
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I just recently reread the entire runs of X-Force/X-Statix and the Arcudi/Huat Doom Patrol when I was going through my boxes to file stuff/shift boxloads. *sigh*... 
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"Anytime an awesome book like S6 is cancelled, I hope EVERY Titan is murdered." --Me
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I picked up the New X-Force right from the start, and I'll admit: Other than LSH, it was the only comic I'd go out of my way to get every month. I adored how Orphan warped and changed over the run. I loved the whole feel of the comic (It was wonderful. I had a soft spot for Bloke the minute I was him, and then he died. I was sad, but it really fits, doesn't it? Throw a half dozen ill trained camera hogging grandstanding mutants into a fight and people WILL die.) Cheers to X-Statix, may it forever live in our fond memories. Oh, and pop quiz question: anyone know the name of the X-Statix applicant Corkscrew killed? I read it on a X-Board a while back and it sorta stuck with me 
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Hmm...can't remember, darn it. I even remember the issue and can see Corkscrew in my head.
As for Orphan, you do know he was Mister Sensitive again before the book ended, right?
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yes. he changed back. but to me he'll always be the revolver spinning orphan, no matter how much he changed 
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Well, one more Marvel title I don't have to buy anymore. I was only onboard for Mike Allred, anyway.
So-- anyone buying his NEW series?
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What would that be, prof? I haven't heard what's next for Mr. A...
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He's doing an adaptation of the BOOK OF MORMON. I've heard the art is stunning, though I'm not going to buy it.
His next project, though, is rumoured to be METAL MEN for DC. Now THAT will be a MUST-BUY!
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Originally posted by MLLASH: He's doing an adaptation of the BOOK OF MORMON. I've heard the art is stunning, though I'm not going to buy it. Its out. It sucks. But then I can't stand Allred's work anyway. Combine that with Mormonism and you have something that I'd actually burn. Sorry but his 'art' is a big turnoff to me.
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Art is a subjective thing, but it makes me sad to think of a soul who is "turned off" by Allred's peppy pop-art! Well, he's so different from the norm he's certainly not going to appeal to everyone.
I personally am not buying his Book of Mormon adaptation due to the subject matter.
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I sincerely doubt I'm the only one here who bought X-STATIX: DEAD GIRL # 1.
SPOILERS!!!
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It's really more of a Dr. Strange tale, isn't it? And Stephen is pretty amusing here, following the Giffen/DeMatteis take in the current DEFENDERS mini.
And as Mockingbird EVER loked more hot than on that last page? >whew!<
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X-STATIX PRESENTS DEAD GIRL #1
Dr. Strange and Wong were a hoot. I didn't even notice that Dead Girl was a no-show till the end of the book.
The only wrong note was Miss America. I know the 'dead' aren't necessarily the same characters as they were when living, but Madelaine seemed completely divorced from any previous appearance.
That's a quibble, as this looks to be a fun mini. Imagine that
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Can't wait to get this! C'MON, February shipment!
I'm updating the thread title for the Deadgirl mini.
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"Anytime an awesome book like S6 is cancelled, I hope EVERY Titan is murdered." --Me
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X-STATIX PRESENTS DEAD GIRL #2
Wacky and still a hoot. Dr. Strange as the object of dead gals lust... gigglesnort. "Yes and since I've been with you, I haven't given one thought to my hemorrhoids." I laughed out loud, something I don't do that often when reading.
I was a little disappointed by the treatment of the Whizzer and Miss America (though her 'racist' tendencies make perfect sense, timeline wise- they just seem a poor fit for the character). Phantom Rider was fun.
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WOW-- I'd buy a Milligan-written DR. STRANGE book in a hot minute! That hemmoroids line was absolutely priceless!
The Dead girl as meat creature was so grotesque, yet hilarious. This is frickin' brilliant.
Though I'm still not sure how Dead girl actually could die anyway. Oh, well, no matter.
Yeah, the Miss America stuff is fitting timewise, but it's still no fun to see a "hero" act like this, especially one that I've been fond of in the past. But Milligan likes to play with racial themes, and it IS interestng to see Tyke's reactions to the 40s sentiments.
Considring what The Phantom Rider did to Mockingbird during her WCA stnt, I'm not sure I like what has the potential to develop here.
This book is an "A" so far. great stuff.
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Wow! Miss A's slur in response to Tyke's come-on/grope -completely- caught me offguard there... glad to see I wasn't alone. Like you guys, I took it as a sentiment of her time, and not necessarily a personal prejudice on her part- especially as her apology and contact with Tyke seemed genuine. Although her bit at the end with Wong cracked me up.
I was wondering about Rider and Bobbi. PAD played fast & loose with past continuity between Madrox and Siryn recently, But the events that took place between these two in West Coast Avengers are too big to sweep under the carpet, and I don't think Milligan's the type to shy away from it either.
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I read # 4.
This has almost become an X-STATIX reunion, as I suspected it might anyway.
Lots of fun, and the "Oshtur's infamous flatulence" line complete bowled me over. I swear, Milligan would get me buying a regular Dr. Strange series in a heartbeat.
So far, a fantastic follow-up/companion to X-STATIX. 1 issue to go.
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Apparently I'm about a year-plus late on this info! (!!!!!)
Well, THIS time, Doop's drawn by Allred!
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Also, looks like Mike Allred is on a new ongoing title by Marvel too in a few months! "FF", the sister title to Fantastic Four will be drawn by Allred and star She-Hulk, Ant Man, Medusa and some new chick called "Miss Thing" (a celebutante type, playing on how that slang is used in popular culture).
Looks pretty groovy!
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