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The Flash CW TV Series Super-Fun Discussion Thread!
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comin' to CW? Is the show a go? Anyone heard?

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Surprisingly, this is the only thread I've found for the Flash TV show (Though I know it's been discussed in 'What are you WATCHING').

I thought the show should go to it's own thread, so I'm bumping this one.

My kids and I really dig this show. Far more age appropriate than Arrow, yet still fresh, fun and accessible. I'm hoping they can keep this balance going forward.

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I've repeated the canard in the past that DC seems to be almost ashamed of it's comic book heroes and the inherent goofiness of the genre, as if everything has to be Batman Begins levels of ultra-serious and colorless and grim, but the Flash totally makes me eat those words, because it's flat-out embracing the genre. Not everything is exactly the same (there likely won't be a city full of super-intelligent apes...), but they still have done some awesome and 'four-color' stuff, instead of sticking to very serious people doing very 'realistic' things.

I'm generally okay with things being different, between iterations of a property, such as being able to enjoy the Threeboot for what it was, despite it not being 'my Legion,' so I'm okay with the various changes being made adapting Flash (and his various Rogues) to the television screen (such as Weather Wizard not using a wand, or whatever).

I wasn't a fan of the kid playing Barry Allen, but his enthusiasm is infectious and really seems to be pouring himself into the role. I think I'd still prefer someone who looks a bit older, but I can't blame the guy for that, and he's doing an amazing job of it!

Between Gotham, Arrow and Constantine, we're not lacking for more serious shows, so it's kind of refreshing to have the Flash portrayed as a young hero who is totally enjoying his powers, and comes from a more idealistic 'I want to help people!' motivation.

It's not, IMO, a great show (usual idiot-ball plot devices, and some awkward dialogue), but it's got some heart to it, and hopefully it can grow into something even better.




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As I said before, the fact that they've somehow turned Barry into Peter Parker is pretty much my least favorite aspect of the show.

It's definitely not how I'd do a Flash show, but it's pretty fun on its own merits if you watch it without preconceptions, though.

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Arrow can be a chore for me to watch ( but not as much as Agents ). I really look forward to The Flash.


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I think it's more the actor than the plan or did you mean the actual plot?

The Flash part, I think he's nailed. The postures and the movement are really good in my opinion. It's the Barry part. Any scene with or referring to Iris, he acts as if he's 14. I think over the year I notice a concerted effort for him to lower his voice. That is helping.

Ultimately, I think the actor is growing into the role.


I don't really like their take on the Rogues but I'm adjusting. The only character I really don't like is Cisco. He's an idiot and this actor also plays him as if he's a teen whose voice is changing. Iris would be my second least favorite.

Jesse Martin plays easily my favorite character.


Linda Park character and actor has it all over the Iris character and IMO, plays much better off this Barry than Iris but the plot between them got stale real quick.

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I think it's more the actor than the plan or did you mean the actual plot?



Both, really. I mean... the whole science nerd, family tragedy, love life problems... all read more Peter Parker than how I think of Barry Allen. The fact that the actor is struggling to seem like he's over 18 doesn't help.

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I've been raving about last night's episode over on Facebook. To me, this looks to be the episode where the show really starts clicking on all cylinders. (Other than the frag grenade thing, but I digress.) The actors, the plot, everything just hit the right note. For example, I was wondering if they'd just have Barry ignore that his discovery about his mom's murder meant that he, in fact, failed, but they didn't and actually nailed it.

And it sure didn't hurt that I have a soft spot for the Ronnie Raymond/Martin Stein iteration of Firestorm, and it was done so well! No, Ronnie's not a teenager, Firestorm apparently can't transmute elements--but the essence was absolutely there and KICKED ASS!!!


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In earlier episodes they mentioned the original purpose of F.I.R.E.S.T.O.R.M. was for elemental transmutation, so the door is certainly open for them to bring that in.

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I actually wouldn't mind it if they left it out, only because the power has always seemed like too much at times. I mean, he could transmute bullets into flowers (among other extravagancies)! If they can clearly define and limit the parameters, though, I'd be all for it.


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Same here, Firestorm was extremely powerful and versatile. Maybe they can also have the transmutation show up as a new power and have him slowly learn it and define its limits.

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Simple transmutation of one element to another might actually work well, but the full-blown restructuring of objects (bullets to flowers) might be a little difficult to pull off credibly.

I always did like the restriction of his powers to non-organics, though.

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The fire thing is taken so I hope they do the transmutation but yeah, limitations please. At least Barry gets hungry when he runs. Converting mass has to have some restrictions on size or speed or something.

Not sure I'm liking the look of Grodd. Does he seem kind of plasticky? The FX people are going to have their hands full on that one I imagine. Still looking forward to the story line though.

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It's a tough challenge on a TV budget to pull off a Grodd, but I feel that what we saw was pretty decent.


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Maybe it's because I watched on the laptop. I fell asleep before it came on tv and didn't wake up until after so I caught up the episode on-line.

Between snows days, freeze days, sick days and holidays, I pretty much get paid to sit home, which has my active/sleep schedule all messed up.

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So the last episode made my son cry and my daughter cheer. They must be doing something right.

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It also made me cry and yes they are!


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I teared up as well. frown


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Can someone please spoil it for me? It might get me to give the show a second chance.


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I'd rather ask what turned you off to it???


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The pilot had a lot of rough edges IMO. The Johns influence and my own antipathy towards it at work, I guess. But everyone here has been saying it's improved by leaps and bounds.


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It's freaking great!! But spoiling what happened this week won't entice you to watch if you aren't invested in the show.


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Fair enough. Maybe I'll wait until the season is over and then watch the whole thing. Thanks, Lash.


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You won't regret it, I think. It does a swell job of homaging the source material, but DON'T expect things to be 100% comic faithful.


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I definitely wasn't sold on the pilot either, but, once you get over some major flaws in the setup of the show, it's actually quite a bit of fun. And not afraid to embrace it's comic book origins, which is the problem with a lot of DC adaptations in particular.

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Dave, I need to hang out with your kids. I was basically doing both things too!

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