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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
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While we wait for thoth lad, I just remembered another thing I wish to discuss with all of you. I expect this Idol will be over soon; maybe even before 2016 depending on how fast the next few rounds go. As usual, there will be month in between games to give people room to breath, but I might start the thread early because it might be even harder than this one to compile all the villains.
I need to know what you would want for the next Idol:
Flash Villains (I might just call it Flashes Rogues Idol because that is how they are best known)
or Spider-Villain Idol (Considered by some critics to have the best villains roster in the industry)
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Personally, I would prefer a Flash Rogues Idol.
(But that's just because I have no attachment to any Marvel characters.)
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I am more invested in heroes so I find Hero Idols more exciting. But between the two options I prefer Flash villains, because I prefer DC to Marvel
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I'm with the Flash villains too!
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I'd prefer Flash villains too, as I've read very, very few Spider books in my time. I'd probably know most of the villains from various other sources though.
With the Cavalier back, I was tempted to go for Nocturna. But I think she's reached roughly where she should be in the scheme of things. SO, I'm going with ...
Two Face. The Scarecrow was a very, very close second.And thanks for the list Emily. That made coming up with one much easier and fun to think about.
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Catwoman (Golden Age) Cavalier Clayface II (Hagen) Clayface III (Payne) Deadshot Harley Quinn Man-Bat Lady Shiva Poison Ivy (Silver Age) Talia Al Ghul Two-Face
There is a total of eleven characters, so I have to go through the list, remove all of these, and use a Random Generator to select a 12th character.
Random Says: Bane (Modern Age)
It is a strangely fitting choice for a random generator. After all, he starred in the latest Batman movie.
The Final List (Hopefully)
Bane (Modern Age) Catwoman (Golden Age) Cavalier Clayface II (Hagen) Clayface III (Payne) Deadshot Harley Quinn Lady Shiva Man-Bat Poison Ivy (Silver Age) Talia Al Ghul Two-Face
The next round starts now. You have until Monday at 6:00 P.M Central Time to submit your votes. If we end up in the middle of a round at Christmas Eve, I will postpone counting until the 26th or 27th. I know we have an international crowd here, so let me know if Boxing Day is important to you and we will wait until the 27th.
Point scale this round: Number= Points
2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 12/19/15 06:50 AM.
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Flash Villains will be fun, but I am going to need a lot of help. I have most of the Modern Age versions memorized thanks to Morrison and Johns, but I will need extensive help with Silver and Golden Age villains. I will need help Silver Age because I haven't read many comics with Barry. I may need help Golden Age due to lack of information online.
My votes:
Bane (Modern Age) 18 Catwoman (Golden Age) 18 Cavalier 2 Clayface II (Hagen) 12 Clayface III (Payne) 10 Deadshot 18 Harley Quinn 20 Lady Shiva 10 Man-Bat 2 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 18 Talia Al Ghul 14 Two-Face 6
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 12/19/15 06:49 AM.
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Emily, I went with Two Face and not Nocturna (although it was nice seeing her back on the list)
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I'll edit the posts above me to reflect that.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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Ta.
Bane (Modern Age) 2 Catwoman (Golden Age) 20 Cavalier 2 Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) 20 Clayface III (Payne) 2 Deadshot 20 Harley Quinn 2 Lady Shiva 2 Man-Bat 20 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 15 Talia Al Ghul 20 Two Face 20
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Nocturna was another close choice for me, but I ultimately left her out as she is not as influential as my other shortlist choices.
Bane (Modern Age) 2 Catwoman (Golden Age) 20 Cavalier 10 Clayface II (Hagen) 10 Clayface III (Payne) 10 Deadshot 10 Harley Quinn 10 Lady Shiva 10 Man-Bat 2 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 20 Talia Al Ghul 20 Two-Face 10
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Bane (Modern Age) - 2 Catwoman (Golden Age) - 20 Cavalier - 18 Clayface II (Hagen) - 20 Clayface III (Payne) - 18 Deadshot - 12 Harley Quinn - 4 Lady Shiva - 6 Man-Bat - 16 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) - 16 Talia Al Ghul - 8 Two-Face - 14
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Bane (Modern Age)...2 Catwoman (Golden Age)...2 Cavalier...20 Clayface II (Hagen)...10 Clayface III (Payne)...10 Deadshot...2 Harley Quinn...2 Lady Shiva...2 Man-Bat...20 Poison Ivy (Silver Age)...2 Talia Al Ghul...2 Two-Face...10
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Bane (Modern Age) 2 Catwoman (Golden Age) 18 Cavalier 10 Clayface II (Hagen) 12 Clayface III (Payne) 6 Deadshot 20 Harley Quinn 16 Lady Shiva 20 Man-Bat 6 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 12 Talia Al Ghul 18 Two-Face 14
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I am going to extend voting for 24 hours a it is not usual for Dave not to vote. I'll post the results tomorrow. Next round will probably last until December 26. If you know you will be unavailable until a certain date, please state so in this thread or send me a PM. I will try to accommodate you.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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Looks like Poison Ivy did the best of the Wildcards so far.
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Sorry, busy weekend.
Bane (Modern Age) 2 Catwoman (Golden Age) 2 Cavalier 2 Clayface II (Hagen) 2 Clayface III (Payne) 20 Deadshot 20 Harley Quinn 2 Lady Shiva 2 Man-Bat 20 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 2 Talia Al Ghul 2 Two-Face 2
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The results
Deadshot 102 100% Catwoman (Golden Age) 100 98% Clayface II (Hagen) 86 86% Man-Bat 86 86% Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 85 83% Talia Al Ghul 84 82% Clayface III (Payne) 76 76% Two-Face (Golden Age) 76 76%
Eliminated this round:
Cavalier 64 64% Harley Quinn 56 56% <-- I tried, Harley, I truly tried.
Lady Shiva 52 52% Bane 30 30% <-- To me he exemplified the zeitgeist of the time the last Batman movie came out, so I am saddened to see him leave again. I admire relevance in writing.
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We are keeping the 2 scale for the next round, as it seems to be working the best out of the scales I have used thus far.
Clayface II (Hagen) Clayface III(Payne) Catwoman (Golden Age) Deadshot Man-Bat Poison Ivy (Silver Age) Talia Al Ghul Two-Face (Golden Age)
This round will end on December 26th 2015 at midnight. If you are going to be unable to post by that time, please contact me as soon as possible.
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I am aware I put Catwoman after the Clayfaces, I'll fix the order when I post the next round.
Clayface II (Hagen) 2 Clayface III(Payne) 2 Catwoman (Golden Age) 20 Deadshot 18 Man-Bat 2 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 2 Talia Al Ghul 18 Two-Face (Golden Age) 12
If anyone has any knowledge about the Flash Villains, please feel free to send me a PM as I will be privately working on that list soon.
Last edited by Emily Sivana; 12/22/15 01:19 PM.
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I thought the Cavalier was going to stick around a little longer.
You really did try for Harley. If it's any consolation, I'll look out for her in an older book where she's not emulating Deadpool.
Did Lady Shiva pop up in a Titans comic? That's the only place I may know her from.
Bane I mostly know from the Kelley Jones covers. I had stopped reading it by that point. He just looked like a steroid abusing thug, really. There were already Bat-villains fulfilling that role.
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When I think of Bane, I immediately think of the last Batman movie in 2012, where he was more of a symbol for anarchy (in the sense of no government/hierarchy, not chaos like the Joker) than a thug. If they haven't gone that direction in the Batman comics, they really should.
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I've only the covers to go with really. I don't think I read any of them. Wasn't it Bane who had some sort of drug that he injected to make himself part of the Russian Olympic Team super strong? I also link it with yet another occasion in which every bat villain is on the loose, which is more than a little lazy.
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Clayface II (Hagen) 2 Clayface III(Payne) 20 Catwoman (Golden Age) 2 Deadshot 20 Man-Bat 20 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 2 Talia Al Ghul 2 Two-Face (Golden Age) 2
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Clayface II (Hagen) 12 Clayface III(Payne) 2 Catwoman (Golden Age) 20 Deadshot 18 Man-Bat 4 Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 10 Talia Al Ghul 16 Two-Face (Golden Age) 14
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